View Full Version : Levy Cracks Down On Illegal Housing In Farmingville
Levy Takes A Stand
06-21-2005, 08:13 PM
Brookhaven Town Public Safety Officials backed up with Officers from the Suffolk County Police Department closed down a slumlord's boarding house.
A single family house that was designed for two adults and their 3 kids was housing as many as 64 illegal aliens at one time.
The house was a fire trap waiting to ignite. The electric cables were all over the place and extremely overloaded. His mouthpiece for radical Latino activists " Reverend Allan Ramirez" claimed this was all done because of racism. But as Levy rightfully said when the place burns down and people are killed who are they going to sue and blame the town of Brookhaven and the County of Suffolk thats who. And Ramirez will be leading the charge on that to.
Hats off for Steve Levy. He has been true to his word. The public will remember come election time.
I think it was the first time in ages the words Brookhaven Investigators, Suffolk District Attorney and Suffolk Police were involved in something other then another crooked Brookhaven politician. Levy found a strong vein of public interest that he cannot lose fighting and he is using it to maxguy we've raided that house before, in 03, 04, its nothing new if u check there was a order barring the owner from renting to more than a family. Dont credit levy, its a old story
Guests
06-22-2005, 01:18 AM
I was truly LOVING Newsday's typical spin on this, making the actions of Levy seem bad. Can you imagine? The government steps in to put a halt to a people living in squalor and in a VERY dangerous situation, and its spun to appear like Levy did a BAD thing!
newsday demise
06-22-2005, 01:44 AM
I was truly LOVING Newsday's typical spin on this, making the actions of Levy seem bad. Can you imagine? The government steps in to put a halt to a people living in squalor and in a VERY dangerous situation, and its spun to appear like Levy did a BAD thing!
this is why they had to lie about their circulation rates
people are fed up with their biased reporting and editorials
when the people do the democratic thing and boycott the paper the paper does what any socialistic or dictorial enetrprise does
THEY LIE :shock:
taking CREDIT
06-22-2005, 03:20 AM
Once again Levy runs government by press release. He took full credit for coming in at the end of a very detailed Town investigation. The town lawyers, inspectors,and officials worked long and hard on this.
guests
06-22-2005, 11:34 AM
Another article today by Mr. Bart "Oh, those poor men breaking our laws" Jones about how terrible it was that these men are now homeless (Hey Bart...homeless is better than dead). He also went out of his way to make sure to accuse authorities of lying about many different aspects of the raid (oh....those terrible police....doing their jobs!). Dont forget to throw in at least one flip of the race card there, Bart!
But the true outrage over this is how Newsday glosses over the residents of the neighboorhood who had to deal with what must have been a nightmare to contend with. Could you imagine living next to a house where people sleep on the lawn every night and filth is everywhere. You cant go into Home Depot with a gaggle of illegals staring you down, making comments and making you feel uncomfortable. Could you imagine dealing with that just walking in your own driveway? To Newsday, thats not a big deal. Those arent residents asking for peace. Those are RACISTS! Oh, those poor "undocumented" immigrants!!!!
Im sooooo happy I canceled my subscription.
Does anyone know the town had shut that house down 2 years ago, but screwed up the paperwork? The landlord got off. The county wasnt involved it was all the town, the cop you see on the tape was there because the past 2 houses the town shut down the illegals gave them a hard time and they had to call the police anyway.
save farmingvile
06-22-2005, 01:05 PM
deport em all. send them back... as u see its becoming "farming"vile"
Newsday's Stance
06-22-2005, 02:03 PM
Reading today's Newsday I realize just how others finally feel.
This supposedly community paper is anything but. It tears down communities.
The reason we have the Palmeri types controlling our zoning is because of newspapers and media with newsday's ideology.
The paper still can't call them illegal aliens but we know better.
Newsday will be cancelled in my household.
Whats sad is now they will be given emergency housing, another free ride from us.
The only good thing is they will end up in a dotson house in gordon heights.
They fit there at least.
Guests
06-22-2005, 07:06 PM
Whats sad is now they will be given emergency housing, another free ride from us.
The only good thing is they will end up in a dotson house in gordon heights.
They fit there at least.
And the usual suspects, including Jones, will say that by "hoarding" these men up in a specific location, the goverment is attempting to repress them and prevent them from finding work, an "obvious attack on Latinos".
I swear, the government could give these poor "undocumented" souls a steak, new clothes and a hand-job on the way out the door and these so-called "advocates" would bitch.
Anonymous,Jr.
06-23-2005, 01:32 PM
Anonymous wrote:
Whats sad is now they will be given emergency housing, another free ride from us.
The only good thing is they will end up in a dotson house in gordon heights.
They fit there at least.
Not very Politically Correct. True, but not very Politcally Correct.
I LIKE IT!!!!!!!!
Sorry if ppl are offended, but so are my tax dollars..
Put them on a plane and send them back!
Put them on a plane and send them back!
Y should we have to pay for them, put them all on lumber donated to build a hiring hall tie the wood together pull them 1/2 way out into the atlantic..............
getting interesting
06-27-2005, 02:30 PM
Reverend Ramrod ramirez says Levy and his backers "99%of area residents" are bad people
he leads the Mexicans in a pots and pans banging protest
yet when these firetraps burn up who are the first to sue for taxpayer dollars? get the reverend a one way ticket to Mexico city
and let him advocate there
Ramrod Ramirez
06-27-2005, 11:52 PM
Is he related to Manny Ramirez?
Citizens Pain
06-28-2005, 12:13 AM
The Rev. Ramirez likes to march around holding a little dog, saying that illegal aliens are treated worse than dogs. Let's stop to consider:
1) we're not paying for the dog's free education,
2) if you take the dog to the doctor, YOU have to pay; if YOU go to the doctor, WE have to pay,
3) at least the dog was probably born here.
Levy is at least starting to address the problem. Let's hope he continues.
BillyK
06-28-2005, 11:42 AM
We don't need housing for these illegal aliens. What we need are a lot of buses to bring them back to where they came from.
SEND THE ILLEGALS HOME!
It's as simple as that.
Billy Kess
It's a shame the Island has come to this. Can't even get a cup of coffee driving a pick-up truck without being mobbed.
What the government should've done was round everyone up from "the march" and deport those who were illegal immigrants. I bet fewer that a dozen would be left standing. This whole matter is a disgrace and it's costing us our way of life. It's a shame.....a damn shame.
Some of the "illegals" actually come here and get their Tax ID number and their INS paperwork. When it comes time for their temporary work permits and INS documents to expire they head home with their money from the U.S. What they leave behind is disturbing. Alot of them leave behind their tax ID numbers and their INS cards and someone who is NOT legitimately here assumes their identity. Social Security Administration has to crack down on TAX ID numbers that are issued to people who no longer have valid status in this country. Good Job by the County Exec on cracking down on this major problem here.
newsday slams levy
06-29-2005, 01:04 PM
what do you expect from a newspaper run by perverts and
convicted thieves :oops:
Some of the "illegals" actually come here and get their Tax ID number and their INS paperwork. When it comes time for their temporary work permits and INS documents to expire they head home with their money from the U.S. What they leave behind is disturbing. Alot of them leave behind their tax ID numbers and their INS cards and someone who is NOT legitimately here assumes their identity. Social Security Administration has to crack down on TAX ID numbers that are issued to people who no longer have valid status in this country. Good Job by the County Exec on cracking down on this major problem here.
Levy/county showed up on the last week of this investigation, give the credit to Brookhaven(i cant beleive im saying that) who did 4 years of investigating these homes, and the various illegal activity going on.
Some of the "illegals" actually come here and get their Tax ID number and their INS paperwork. When it comes time for their temporary work permits and INS documents to expire they head home with their money from the U.S. What they leave behind is disturbing. Alot of them leave behind their tax ID numbers and their INS cards and someone who is NOT legitimately here assumes their identity. Social Security Administration has to crack down on TAX ID numbers that are issued to people who no longer have valid status in this country. Good Job by the County Exec on cracking down on this major problem here.
Levy/county showed up on the last week of this investigation, give the credit to Brookhaven(i cant beleive im saying that) who did 4 years of investigating these homes, and the various illegal activity going on.
I am far from a fan of Levy or his administration. Didn't vote for the guy and probably wont vote for him again. But the one thing this guy has CONSISTENTLY been hammering on is the need to end the illegals on Long Island. So I give credit to Levy. nice grunt work by Brookhaven but as grunt work goes, someone else takes the credit for the work. I just don't think Levy was too far out of the picture on this one.
Screw Brookhaven Public Safety. A bunch of wanna-be buffs. Ask them what happens when they speed for no reason in their town public safety cars.
Screw Brookhaven Public Safety. A bunch of wanna-be buffs. Ask them what happens when they speed for no reason in their town public safety cars.
Well, I give the young kids who take that job credit. I know it is a political connection kind of job but the kids who are doing it are looking for a foot in the door. They make crap for money and they do a good job providing a service for the town.
As for the 500 pound over the hill slob who hangs onto this job for the sole purpose of he feels like he is some kind of superior boss on a law enforcement job. Well that guy needs a reality check. And a few tickets to boot.
Some of the "illegals" actually come here and get their Tax ID number and their INS paperwork. When it comes time for their temporary work permits and INS documents to expire they head home with their money from the U.S. What they leave behind is disturbing. Alot of them leave behind their tax ID numbers and their INS cards and someone who is NOT legitimately here assumes their identity. Social Security Administration has to crack down on TAX ID numbers that are issued to people who no longer have valid status in this country. Good Job by the County Exec on cracking down on this major problem here.
Levy/county showed up on the last week of this investigation, give the credit to Brookhaven(i cant beleive im saying that) who did 4 years of investigating these homes, and the various illegal activity going on.
I am far from a fan of Levy or his administration. Didn't vote for the guy and probably wont vote for him again. But the one thing this guy has CONSISTENTLY been hammering on is the need to end the illegals on Long Island. So I give credit to Levy. nice grunt work by Brookhaven but as grunt work goes, someone else takes the credit for the work. I just don't think Levy was too far out of the picture on this one.
You are wrong Levy refused to assist in the investigation, refused to give assistance to the town lawyers even when they advised him they would possibly encounter resistance at one house. The town lawyers actually had to call 911 at the house to get a police officer. This was about 2 weeks before levy jumped on the towns bandwagon. As far as being anti-illegal what politician wouldnt be? illegals cant vote.
As far as being anti-illegal what politician wouldnt be? illegals cant vote.
That's the whole thing. Other politicians are hush hush on this. Very taboo and they are too busy trying to be politically correct. Like I said I am no big Levy fan but when I see this guy shoot straight from the hip and speak what is on the minds of 99% of the population in Suffolk, well whether he was in on this from the beginning or not, he is representing his constituents truly.
newsday's practice
06-30-2005, 02:52 PM
don't forget Newsrag has been supporting illegals since day one
they make them appear to have more support than they really do
just like their circulation numbers, it's to fool the public
catching on
07-01-2005, 01:54 PM
town of North Hempstead gave eviction notices to 30+ tenants living in squalor in a single family house
they had 7 days to find newer accommodations
the poster who said illegals don't vote---how do we know that for sure when so many have phony ID's such as driver licenses and social security numbers?
town of North Hempstead gave eviction notices to 30+ tenants living in squalor in a single family house
they had 7 days to find newer accommodations
the poster who said illegals don't vote---how do we know that for sure when so many have phony ID's such as driver licenses and social security numbers?
Thats a interesting point, my guess is they dont for the same reason when they smash each other over the head with empty beer bottles they dont go to the hospital because they are scared of any official or official looking place, due to the fact that they are used to all govt or officials being corrupt. But the seven or so kids they have here will get that right eventually...
legal resident
07-04-2005, 03:25 AM
Newsday has once again proved that it is totally biased in it's reporting of illegals in Farmingville....for some reason we never see reports concerning the LEGAL inhabitants of the Farmingville community....they seem only concerned with the ILLEGAL inhabitants.
lets get some action
07-04-2005, 09:53 PM
Does it really matter who gets the credit here....Brookhaven Town, Steve Levy....as long as we get some results....Farmingville is slowly but surely being decimated by illegals,lets just hope our Goverment continues it's efforts and makes Farmingville a LEGAL community once again!!!
fight newsday
07-05-2005, 02:36 PM
start campaign to bring down evil institution
they made it clear they support big developers and illegal aliens
boycott paper and put out signs
they help to destroy communities now help to destroy them
Amigo2
07-06-2005, 11:17 AM
Publicity stunt
longylander
07-07-2005, 12:50 PM
They are here illegally..... got that illegally..... they do not have American citizen rights. When they get documented and LEGAL then they have rights. Stop with the bull shit about finding them housing which I am sure my hard earned tax dollars will fund. Stop trying to build a work center..... I remember that one Brian Foley.... 80k of our tax money to build a work center..... They are ILLEGAL... what part of that don't you understand. Stop spending our hard earned money to support something ILLEGAL.
The first question every law abiding citizen and politician should ask is are they legal. If not, ship them back. Stop supporting the breaking of laws. We are a country of laws.... without laws we have anarchy. Support Levy in this important effort.... What part of this you bleeding heart Liberal yahoo's don't you understand?
no friend
07-07-2005, 08:00 PM
Publicity stunt
no its no publicity stunt
radicals at newsday and the reverend Ramrod with his vocal illegal alien supporters are being put in place where they belong
THE LUNATIC FRINGE :twisted: :twisted: :twisted:
Help Illegals
07-07-2005, 08:15 PM
I don't think the Illegals should be shipped back to their own country...I think they should be shipped to Iraq and set free there..
and that should be the policy..you get caught, your ass is shipped to Iraq ..then lets see how many of them try and enter this country ILLEGALLY!!!
Guest 26
07-08-2005, 11:58 PM
Levy for President
Your an idiot.
cheech
07-09-2005, 01:19 AM
In today's NY Times it had an article stating that illegal aliens were being given mortgage loans in another state. anyone else hear or read about this. what a bunch of crap. middle class can't even obtain a mortgage and yet they make it possible for these illegal and i want to emphasize "ILLEGAL" aliens to obtain a mortgage to own a home in this country. THANKS LIBERALS!!!!!!!!!!!!! You should be shipped to IRAQ!
1) deport ALL illegals. not just mexicans. (guatemalans, salvadorans too).lolol
2) get your kids off their computers and playstations and let them learn a trade. or work the car washes,landscape, and bus tables and learn the value of a dollar like most of us did.
3)$25,000 MINIMUM fine to contractors who hire illegals. so if his profits decrease and he cant live on the water and has to buy a cape uptown, so be it.
4) if you're illegal and have a kid here fine. go back to where ya came from and your kid can come back when hes 18.
and so on and so on and so on
5) give hard working americans help with mortgages before skelly illegals. as posted earlier what part of "ILLEGAL" cant people comprehend?
get rid of all illegals- i am so sick of hearing people saying " we treat them wrong"- they are ILLEGAl, get rid of them, most of them are ass holes anyways
Guesswho
07-12-2005, 02:28 AM
I don't think the Illegals should be shipped back to their own country...I think they should be shipped to Iraq and set free there..
and that should be the policy..you get caught, your ass is shipped to Iraq ..then lets see how many of them try and enter this country ILLEGALLY!!!
Do you think that they (illegals) should served in the armed forces as a step to becoming US citzens?
newsday and media unite
07-12-2005, 05:44 AM
united the left wing media of New York City and Newsday attacks Levy and Caracappa
The left wing in the media is going all out to attack people who are for safer and better housing and to getting rid of illegal aliens who cause these problems along with their tax cheating employers
Here is what they say:--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Housing issue gets heated
Levy slams reporters over coverage of illegal immigrant crackdown and defends shuttering jam-packed residences
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BY BART JONES
STAFF WRITER
July 12, 2005
An angry Suffolk Executive Steve Levy lashed out at the news media Monday, including Newsday, for its coverage of the Mexican day laborer evictions in Farmingville and said it is missing the real story -- the many residents who support the crackdown on illegally overcrowded houses.
Flanked at a news conference by about 10 sympathetic residents and Joseph Caracappa, the Suffolk Legislature's presiding officer, Levy pointed to a posterboard of Newsday stories and exchanged heated words with some reporters as he accused the media of focusing too heavily on ousted tenants. He disputed accounts that some had been left homeless.
Caracappa, a Republican, said the media "should be ashamed of yourselves."
Levy, a Democrat, said residents of Farmingville "cheered" the housing crackdown that started June 19, but their happiness "changed to dismay when they saw in the media the focus of the attention ... This is not an issue about race or immigration or long-term housing. It's an issue about the integrity of neighborhoods."
During one heated exchange, reporter Mike Xirinachs of WCBS-880 AM suggested the issue did involve race and asked Levy if he could provide the name of one white immigrant evicted by authorities in Suffolk. "Unbelievable," Levy replied to Xirinachs' comments.Caracappa defended Levy. "Newsday, wrong. News 12, wrong. New York Times, wrong. And every other media outlet that's here that has criticized this man for standing up for me and others, absolutely wrong, wrong, wrong," Caracappa said.
"All you seem to care about is who is buying your newspaper and who's subscribing to your TV channel or Cablevision. For you, it's all about money and you should be ashamed of yourselves," he said.
He also said he doubted the media would cover the story if officials shut down a fraternity house near Stony Brook University because "it's not sensational news and you're not pulling the race card."
"Now you are getting insulting," Xirinachs shot back.
The residents praised the crackdown by Brookhaven Town and Suffolk County officials, saying houses packed with Mexican immigrants were turning parts of Farmingville into "slums."
"Now our American dream is a nightmare," said Diane Aragones, noting that 10 to 15 day laborers gather in front of her house every day. "It hurts me so deeply that people say this is a racist thing. Hello. Look at us," she said, noting that her husband Dave is of Puerto Rican descent.
Interviewed afterward, immigrant advocates responded to Levy by saying they are not opposed to enforcing housing codes, but that tossing workers onto the streets was simply creating another problem. Three houses containing as many as 104 men have been shut by authorities or landlords, and advocates say some of the men were left homeless. Levy said that is false, saying county workers had gone to Farmingville and found no one left homeless.
Levy is "missing the real sentiments of Long Islanders," said Patrick Young of the Long Island Immigrant Alliance, who has called Levy "public enemy No. 1" in the Latino community and whom Levy has labeled part of a "lunatic fringe." The Latino community "has to be dealt with respectfully and cannot simply be rousted out of their houses and thrown out onto the streets."
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Newsday should be boycotted and now maybe even CBS News Radio 880am
Patrick Young is a socialistic Pro Illegal alien supporter and makes his money as such.
Ever notice how the liberal news media refuses to call illegal immigrants what they are? They will call them Day Laborers, Undocumented Workers, Immigrants. But, they will never call then what they are ILLEGAL, CRIMINALS; they came here through illegal means that makes them illegal aliens and criminals.
They are costing the taxpayers hundreds of millions and taking jobs from tax paying citizens.
I never voted for Levy, I never intended on voting for Levy or any Dem for that matter. Levy now has my vote.
Huntington Carpenter
07-12-2005, 01:57 PM
where's my union---- in the face of Newsday calling illegAl alien A
HuntinGton CArpenter WHere's My UNion brothers ovER this OutRage :twisted: :twisted: :twisted: :twisted: :twisted:
BrookhavenDem
07-12-2005, 02:03 PM
1) deport ALL illegals. not just mexicans. (guatemalans, salvadorans too).lolol
2) get your kids off their computers and playstations and let them learn a trade. or work the car washes,landscape, and bus tables and learn the value of a dollar like most of us did.
3)$25,000 MINIMUM fine to contractors who hire illegals. so if his profits decrease and he cant live on the water and has to buy a cape uptown, so be it.
4) if you're illegal and have a kid here fine. go back to where ya came from and your kid can come back when hes 18.
and so on and so on and so on
5) give hard working americans help with mortgages before skelly illegals. as posted earlier what part of "ILLEGAL" cant people comprehend?
You say get our kids off the computers to work? Where? all these so illegal immigrants are taking the jobs you and I had, Gas jockeys, Restaurant help, McDonalds, taco Bell, convenience stores,landscapers, factory work farm, nursery work..Our kids cant get these jobs anymore.
Luckily my two oldest have jpbs and bust thier ass doing what they do. We are becoming the new second class citizens.
hear ya brookhaven dem.... was a nice thought tho. from a fellow second class citizen
Liberals and Dems would give all our jobs to illegals and to boot they will tax us to give them free housing!
slimy newspaper
07-12-2005, 08:50 PM
newsday still won't call illegal alien, illegal.
if I lived in Huntington and was a carpenter I would be livid :x
longylander
07-14-2005, 08:32 PM
They are here illegally..... got that illegally..... they do not have American citizen rights. When they get documented and LEGAL then they have rights. Stop with the bull shit about finding them housing which I am sure my hard earned tax dollars will fund. Stop trying to build a work center..... I remember that one Brian Foley.... 80k of our tax money to build a work center..... They are ILLEGAL... what part of that don't you understand. Stop spending our hard earned money to support something ILLEGAL.
The first question every law abiding citizen and politician should ask is are they legal. If not, ship them back. Stop supporting the breaking of laws. We are a country of laws.... without laws we have anarchy. Support Levy in this important effort.... What part of this you bleeding heart Liberal yahoo's don't you understand?
islipdem3
07-15-2005, 11:21 AM
Liberals and Dems would give all our jobs to illegals and to boot they will tax us to give them free housing!
Gee, I thought the entire Federal Gov't is controlled by REPUBLICANS!
Try blaming them....oh I forgot, W was appointed directly by God
Liberals and Dems would give all our jobs to illegals and to boot they will tax us to give them free housing!
Gee, I thought the entire Federal Gov't is controlled by REPUBLICANS!
Try blaming them....oh I forgot, W was appointed directly by God
Oh so they werent hiring at 83/16 until W went into office?
http://www.shooshtime.com/clips/video.php?id=5476
Liberals and Dems would give all our jobs to illegals and to boot they will tax us to give them free housing!
Gee, I thought the entire Federal Gov't is controlled by REPUBLICANS!
Try blaming them....oh I forgot, W was appointed directly by God
Oh so they werent hiring at 83/16 until W went into office?thats a funny one! islipdem3 think before you post, thats nonsense!! before bush we had 8 years of clinton, he and his regime must take some blame for whats wrong in this country.
WHAT IF HE CAME HERE
07-15-2005, 10:19 PM
WHAT IF WE CAPTURE OSAMA BIN LADIN AND BRING HIM BACK TO THE STATES?
WILL HE BE ABLE TO GET AN ACLU ATTORNEY WHO SPECIALIZES IN IMMIGRATION LAW AND PROFILING?
WOULD HE BE ABLE TO CLAIM A HATE CRIME AGAINST HIM WITH THE USA BOMBING HIM PERSONALLY IN AFGHANISTAN? :twisted:
[quote Stop supporting the breaking of laws. We are a country of laws.... without laws we have anarchy. Support Levy in this important effort.... What part of this you bleeding heart Liberal yahoo's don't you understand?[/quote]
Saw this interesting Post:
mcj
Unregistered User
(7/16/05 9:49 am)
Reply Your Welcome ---Bush and Kennedy are in seclusion
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The Republicans and Democrats have boxed this country into a corner what with political correctness on one hand and corporate greed on the other. Most of the people who are against this onslaught of illegal aliens are not the racist or xenophobic people the radical left or exploiters of illegals make us out to be.
Further from the truth. When you live in a neighborhood where people take good care of their single family houses and people of all races and creeds live there, thats the American dream.
That dream is shattered when you call your town code enforcement or other town, county, state, and federal officials to tell them that your neighbors have illegally rented out parts of their houses to a bunch of convicted felons. Youths who do drugs and blow car horns at 3am. Transients who come into and out of the house all night long making a lot of noise. When the government officials and people in the media say they feel sorry for you but it sounds racist to enforce the government's own zoning laws you feel betrayed.
The reason the government and the media does what it does is simple, where I live in Huntington all the government officials assume it must be a problem with a minority population or illegal aliens. In our case I was told by government officials they felt sorry for me and my neighbors but it sounds like it's racist to enforce building codes. I explained I was offended and that all the illegal renters and trouble makers were "WHITE" and coming from other towns to live here.
When you live in a Farmingville, village of Hempstead, Huntington Station etc you are already treated differently by government and media
amen the "American Dream" is being flushed down the crapper by our PC BS
LegallyLegit
07-17-2005, 04:52 PM
In today's NY Times it had an article stating that illegal aliens were being given mortgage loans in another state. anyone else hear or read about this. what a bunch of crap. middle class can't even obtain a mortgage and yet they make it possible for these illegal and i want to emphasize "ILLEGAL" aliens to obtain a mortgage to own a home in this country. THANKS LIBERALS!!!!!!!!!!!!! You should be shipped to IRAQ!
I don't know about illegals obtaining home mortgages in other states, but just here on Long Island, has anyone else noticed the real estates cropping up catering to the new homeowner, "se habla espanol"? Personally, I have called a few of them and they don't seem to want to help me when they realize I'm not of Hispanic origin. Talk about reverse discrmination!
I am not a prejudiced person, I believe in what's fair is fair. I would like to realize the "American Dream" and buy a home here on Long Island myself. I was born and raised here. However, it seems that all it takes is for one "legal" family member to apply for a mortgage (there are mortgage companys that primarily cater to the Hispanic community). That "legal" family member gets the mortgage, has all their illegal family members move in, help pay the mortgage and are basically taking housing away, aside from jobs, from the hard working legal citizens of the US.
I have a coworker who was born here but her husband wasn't. They applied for a mortgage and had to wait due to the fact her husband hadn't established any credit in his name and also had to be living in the US for a certain amount of time. I can understand the reasoning behind one having to establish but something here doesn't make sense. Between the two of them, I make more money than they do yet they had more money to put down as a down payment. I guess having the luxury of living in the family's basement apartment and paying low rent helped that along. Needless to say, they are now the proud owners of a home while I could wallpaper my apartment with rent receipts.
I also work at a job where one has to initially give their social security number in order to be serviced. When it comes time to pay, these people who don't have social security numbers want to pay with a credit card! How do they get these Visa and Mastercards?
DIRE STRAIGHTS
07-18-2005, 03:20 AM
I know of Hispanic illegal aliens who call out vile names to white Americans who don't know Spanish.
If they did know Spanish they would be aware that a hate crime was perpetrated against them. Calling out degrading racial epitaphs in Spanish against whites is also illegal.
Immigration is amok
07-18-2005, 02:39 PM
I am out in the community quite often. In speaking with hundreds of people a month I have come across a dangerous view by many people who have imigrated here.
They feel that this country is a nation of immigrants which is more important to them then the people already born here and living here. One person said he was an immigrant from England but not yet a citizen of the USA. He's been here for over 40 years living and working.
So why isn't he a citizen yet? He doesn't like the idea of American government officials controlling our borders and keeping out illegal aliens.
Another person who wants open borders is an architect who said this is a country of immigrants and all immigrants should be allowed in whether illegal or not. What about the native population who was born here I asked?
He said they were wrong and biased against foreigners. It didn't surprise me what this man an architect said next.
As an architect he designs buildings. He is very much for apartment buildings on Long Island. He wants apartment buildings he said to house all the immigrants both legal and illegal so they can have the American dream.
What that does to our environment our tax structure our schools our energy supply our suburban way of life our medical services our traffic etc doesn't concern him.
This man was quite sincere in his belief. He also makes a living at our expense when he houses immigrants including illegal aliens. Imagine living in a country who neglects to help it's poor but gladly sends you to the USA to be housed clothed and fed. Also educated and tended to medically.
This immigrant architect represents what is wrong with today's immigration policies and a government who only sees the corporate line in globalization. This has got to stop.
This Man Gets It
07-19-2005, 03:28 PM
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Vilify landlords of firetraps, not county's efforts
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BY STEVE LEVY
Steve Levy is Suffolk County executive.
July 19, 2005
When I directed the county police to work with Brookhaven Town investigators in arresting a landlord refusing to comply with a court order to close an illegal apartment housing 60 people in 900 square feet of space, I knew the community and those in favor of enforcing our laws would be supportive.
I expected tenant advocates to be supportive as well, as someone was finally pursuing the more egregious landlords exploiting these vulnerable individuals for outrageous profit. However, the most extreme of the advocates, including the Rev. Allan Ramirez, have criticized the authorities rather than advocating on behalf of the residents who remain crammed into the many other dangerous and illegal firetraps littered throughout the county.
Ramirez's extremism was best exemplified by his comments referring to the closing as "ethnic cleansing." The county's role in this operation was arresting the landlord; it did not close this house. Upon inspection of horrid conditions, town investigators observed burning candles in close proximity to sleeping tenants and a propane tank, along with exposed electrical wires and other dangers that prompted them to close the house. Make no mistake - were a fire to have claimed dozens of lives, Ramirez and his more radical cohorts would have vilified authorities for not taking action sooner.
More rational voices have raised legitimate concerns about the well-being of tenants displaced by the operation, and I share their concerns. We have stated from the start that any displaced persons eligible for social services will be provided with such assistance by the county, but individuals who are here illegally are specifically prohibited from receiving federal and state aid. I cannot acquiesce to some members of the Hispanic Advisory Board, the Workplace Project or the Newsday editorial board, all of whom insist I seek taxpayer-subsidized long-term housing for individuals here illegally. I have directed my staff to work with charities and not-for-profits in identifying private resources to provide emergency housing for those not eligible for social services.
Protests held since the landlord's arrest are not surprising, given Newsday's initially biased coverage of the issue. On the day after the arrest, only one article focused on the landlord and the conditions inside the home. Since then, at least a dozen stories on the plight of the former tenants and the alleged callousness of officials who shut down the flophouse have been published. Despite all the coverage, only in the last several days has there been mention of the horrors that neighborhood residents endured living in the midst of these overcrowded structures.
Newsday failed to report the vast differences between the Farmingville operation and a recent Nassau County operation that drew praise from those seeking to draw comparisons. Nassau's tepid warning to the landlord was not pursuant to a contempt of court order requiring an element of surprise, and the residents involved were part of a documented, extended family and could therefore be easily placed by social services.
Newsday painted a picture of individuals sleeping in the woods around Farmingville without verifying where they came from and not saying that tent cities were popping up long before the closing of the subject house.
Newsday has excoriated me for a lack of leadership in dealing with this contentious issue. I contend that leadership has been lacking for decades as this problem has mounted. These neighborhood-busting flophouses have proliferated while government turned a blind eye. Sometimes, leadership comes in the form of standing firmly in support of people who put their trust in you to lead, while powerful voices in the media brand you as callous and coldhearted.
Not long ago, Mayor Rudy Giuliani engaged in an aggressive campaign to make New York safer for families. Let's not forget that he came under intense criticism by extremists and the media for his quality-of-life enforcement tactics. According to advocates, he was trampling on the rights of squeegee-men who would spit on windshields and porn pushers dominating Times Square. Giuliani remained steadfast, helped clean up the city, and now many extremists who attacked him are thankful.
It is my hope that extremist advocates will direct attention where it rightly belongs: the landlords who pack scores of vulnerable individuals into horrid conditions and thumb their noses at the courts. Perhaps if the critics could live for a time in the shoes of a homeowner with 30 people living in a small house next door, they would be moved to rally behind the authorities who are finally focused on ending these slum-like conditions.
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Mended fences?
Neighbors residing near Farmingville sites where day laborers lived in squalor cheer county’s crackdown
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BY BART JONES
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July 20, 2005
The single-family house in Farmingville was packed with 33 day laborers paying $250 a month in rent. Mounds of garbage were piled alongside the house, with bugs crawling around them. Some of the tenants regularly urinated in the backyard.
The Latino laborers ran a plastic pipe out of the house and into the backyard, where neighbors say sewage poured out, although the laborers say that it was overflow from a temporarily broken dishwasher. The house was so packed one tenant slept in a small shed in the backyard.
The neighbors who lived near the house at 6 Spurwoods Lane and watched events unfold there are cheering on a crackdown on illegally overcrowded houses that Brookhaven Town officials and Suffolk County Executive Steve Levy are waging.
"It's wrong to have 30 or 40 men living in a house," said Gail Dandrea, who lives two doors from the house. "It's not fair to them and it's not fair to us." She added: "I have been here 35 years. Nobody is chasing me out of my house."
While Levy has provoked outrage in the Latino community for the crackdown, he is praised by many Farmingville residents who see him and Brookhaven officials as the first politicians to tackle the housing issue. One Farmingville resident who gave only his first name, Mike, said he has never voted, but plans to the next time -- for Levy.
"He's doing a great job," said the 34-year-old auto mechanic.
Immigrant advocates contend Levy and other officials should have made arrangements for evicted tenants who have nowhere else to live, and warn that a further crackdown on an estimated 450 overcrowded houses throughout Brookhaven may trigger large-scale homelessness.
The neighbors see it another way.
Dandrea's yard is immaculately kept, with gardens full of black-eyed Susans, phlox and impatiens. Just two houses away, she said, is a disaster zone.
At 5:30 a.m. on a typical day contractors start pulling up to the house at 6 Spurwoods Lane and beeping their horns for the workers, she said. Trucks drive up and down the block morning and night, and she said residents are afraid to let their children play in the street.
Dandrea said when she and others complained to the landlord about the rotting garbage, he dug a hole in the backyard and buried it. She said the men drink beer, and neighbors once counted hundreds of empty bottles in the backyard. One night a tenant parked his car on the front lawn, she said.
"We didn't sign up to live with a boarding house next door," said resident Lisa Laricchiuta, adding that she often could not sit in her backyard because of the smell from the sewage or overflowing dishwater.
The landlord, Ecuadorian native Adolfo Vera, who bought the house last July, said in an interview with Newsday the neighbors' accusations were true. The neighbors "were 100 percent right," he said. "I feel responsible." He said he would work to bring the house "into compliance" with town building codes.
Inside the house, tenants said they had strict rules posted on the refrigerator about who was to clean the inside of the house, which a Newsday reporter visited months ago and found well-kept. The men said anyone who violated the rules had to leave. As for beer bottles, the tenants said they were saving them for refund money.
The tenants said they took pains to be good neighbors.
"We work all day. We return at night, and we sleep. That's it," Saul Calva, who manages the household, said in Spanish.
A dozen blocks away, neighbors of the house at 33 Woodmont Place, which was closed down last month, said the tenants there used a backyard hole to defecate in. Another neighbor, Louise Scarola, echoed her frustrations. "I just want what everyone else wants: a decent neighborhood to live in."
Two blocks away, residents say a Pineaire Avenue house turns into "Grand Central Station" every Friday evening when dozens of cars arrive to pick up small packages and leave abruptly. One tenant said the packages contain Mexican food.
"You can't get out of driveway on a Friday night," said nearby resident Rick Cuttone.
His neighbor, Adam Costa, said town and county officials need to do much more to crack down. He said he won't let his children play in the front yard because of the traffic. "It's almost like we're prisoners in our own house," said Costa.
Staff writer Sandra Peddie contributed to this story.
Liberals and Dems would give all our jobs to illegals and to boot they will tax us to give them free housing!
Gee, I thought the entire Federal Gov't is controlled by REPUBLICANS!
Try blaming them....oh I forgot, W was appointed directly by God
Oh so they werent hiring at 83/16 until W went into office?thats a funny one! islipdem3 think before you post, thats nonsense!! before bush we had 8 years of clinton, he and his regime must take some blame for whats wrong in this country.
I agree It was Clinton who blurred the boarders!
They are here illegally..... got that illegally..... they do not have American citizen rights. When they get documented and LEGAL then they have rights. Stop with the bull shit about finding them housing which I am sure my hard earned tax dollars will fund. Stop trying to build a work center..... I remember that one Brian Foley.... 80k of our tax money to build a work center..... They are ILLEGAL... what part of that don't you understand. Stop spending our hard earned money to support something ILLEGAL.
The first question every law abiding citizen and politician should ask is are they legal. If not, ship them back. Stop supporting the breaking of laws. We are a country of laws.... without laws we have anarchy. Support Levy in this important effort.... What part of this you bleeding heart Liberal yahoo's don't you understand?
I agree totally!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Clinton=Open Borders
07-20-2005, 10:40 PM
Clinton hemed and hawed over NAFTA before he was elected in 1992. Many people were against Bush senior on opening our borders and having absolute free trade with Mexico. It would unfairly hurt US low wage income workers.
So Clinton waited until he was elected and then endorsed NAFTA and all it's ramifications. No different than the Bushes. Now millions of Americans have been hurt like this and even our teenagers can't find jobs due to low income illegal aliens.
And big government Democrats get a large new poor population in which to spend our tax dollars on special programs for. The Immigrant population. WHAT A COUNTRY WE HAVE BECOME.
one friggin house
07-22-2005, 02:42 PM
there are several hundred more
WHERE WAITING :roll:
Newsday Propoganda
08-07-2005, 01:48 PM
Newsday is at it again, today they printed a story about a "quintisential immigrant success story", more crap from a biased paper. Any immigrant who is here ILLEGALLY and breaks the LAW consistantly by being undocumented, NOT paying taxes on there income, as LEGAL citizens do, drains the medical system and does not pay into it through TAXES, pollutes the community and creates
unsafe, ILLEGAL housing...and that's what Newsday considers a "success" story?
I'm sure newsday would print a story about what a great success story Carlo Gambino is if he were alive today, another immigrant who was successful through illegal activities.
Newsday is at it again, today they printed a story about a "quintisential immigrant success story", more crap from a biased paper. Any immigrant who is here ILLEGALLY and breaks the LAW consistantly by being undocumented, NOT paying taxes on there income, as LEGAL citizens do, drains the medical system and does not pay into it through TAXES, pollutes the community and creates
unsafe, ILLEGAL housing...and that's what Newsday considers a "success" story?
I'm sure newsday would print a story about what a great success story Carlo Gambino is if he were alive today, another immigrant who was successful through illegal activities.
I agree there should be a crackdown on illegals and I also agree that newsday is bias. However, Levy is not doing this for any other reason but politics. He has never done anything without political benefit to him. He is by all accounts a fraud with one agenda himself.
By the way Gambino did pay taxes and his medical bills ,unfortunately it was by criminal gains.
Carlo?
08-07-2005, 09:26 PM
Newsday is at it again, today they printed a story about a "quintisential immigrant success story", more crap from a biased paper. Any immigrant who is here ILLEGALLY and breaks the LAW consistantly by being undocumented, NOT paying taxes on there income, as LEGAL citizens do, drains the medical system and does not pay into it through TAXES, pollutes the community and creates
unsafe, ILLEGAL housing...and that's what Newsday considers a "success" story?
I'm sure newsday would print a story about what a great success story Carlo Gambino is if he were alive today, another immigrant who was successful through illegal activities.
I agree there should be a crackdown on illegals and I also agree that newsday is bias. However, Levy is not doing this for any other reason but politics. He has never done anything without political benefit to him. He is by all accounts a fraud with one agenda himself.
By the way Gambino did pay taxes and his medical bills ,unfortunately it was by criminal gains.
Gambino certainly didn't pay taxes the way he should have, the point in all this is that it's all ILLEGAL it's just on a different scale, but it's the same thing.
only for politics
08-07-2005, 10:06 PM
thats how most politicians do things
if Levy is doing what he is doing because of politics GOOD
At least he realizes it makes good politics to clean up governments past mistakes in allowing slumlords and illegal dewllings to remain unscathed! :)
If the radical left and illegal aliens what housing, they left housing in their home countries. I'm sure they still have a place to stay if they return.
thats how most politicians do things
if Levy is doing what he is doing because of politics GOOD
At least he realizes it makes good politics to clean up governments past mistakes in allowing slumlords and illegal dewllings to remain unscathed! :)
If the radical left and illegal aliens what housing, they left housing in their home countries. I'm sure they still have a place to stay if they return.
Hey I agree that the illegals are creating difficulties , and I also concur that something should be done. Actually, on a national level. However, not for a moment do I believe Levy is doing this for any other reason right or wrong except votes. If those illegals could vote his position would be different. Fact what has he done thus far as county exec.. Rte 347 nothing .Need for better conditions at the Jail for the C/O 's and deputies nothing. Need for SCPD support re. patrols nothing. Need for union contracts to be past expediently nothing. Please he is not the man you are portraying him to be.
Politics as usual , and he is not that smooth to be able to fake it.
still he gets our credits
08-08-2005, 10:25 PM
he is due them because no other politician /government official said and did the things he did
he said all the right things on immigration and illegals and the underground economy Kudos to him 8)
John Doe, Citizen
08-09-2005, 01:45 AM
Mr. Levy is taking the side of the homeowner. Horray!! Yeah, he could do other things too. So could you, so could I. But you and I are not. You have to give the fellow credit for at least doing something...and this something is positive for the quailty of life in our county.
Yes, the aliens can not vote. Yes, Mr. Levy does not have to represent them. These folks should not be allowed to vote. They are not citizens. They do not contribute to our society. Infact they almost always impact American citizens in a negative way.
Hey, it is hard enough to come up with my mortgage payment every month which includes my school taxes and town taxes (to give my family a quality of life). Voting is my privledge, I earned it, I pay to protect ,it via my taxes.
Since I can vote, I vote for LEVY!
If religious organizations complain, let them take money out of their golden collection plates and ask their followers to help these poor illegal immigrants with better housing and education.
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he is due them because no other politician /government official said and did the things he did
he said all the right things on immigration and illegals and the underground economy Kudos to him 8)
Thats the key SAID all the right things how many of them has he done. Please don't refer to the illegals alone. Just count his commitments on other items and weigh his actual doing.
Good that you agree with him . I and many others see through his facade. Your in store for many disappointments with your freind Levy. Particularly if your a member of the SCPD , Deputies or for that matter a member of the AME.
suff res.
08-13-2005, 10:58 PM
I give Steve a "TUMBS UP" he has game it seems, in trying to do something about the illegals. It's about time. (and i"m a republican) YOU GO STEVY!!!!!!!
John Doe, Citizen
08-14-2005, 12:51 AM
Make dat two tumbs up!
Believe it or not, there are other citizens out on this message board who are not members of SCPD! Us others, pay our taxes, which in turn (happily- because SCPD does a great job) support your family.
I support Levy.
Huntington Station Gal
08-14-2005, 01:16 AM
We now more than ever need help in other areas of Suffolk County.
Huntington Station being one of those areas. Slumlords have reigned supreme in this town due to town politicians who favor the real estate broker slumlords.
Please use your good influence with other state and county officials to get our neighborhoods back again from the corrupt politcians and landlords.
Unsafe houses are everywhere in Huntington.
Oakwood
08-14-2005, 07:59 PM
I am a lifelong Republican and a lifelong Huntington Resident. I have watched how the policies of the Town Board have ruined this great town and once great school district (3) by catering to slumlords who rent to illegals.
Don't tell me no one else will do the work they do. If the landscapers paid a fair wage and charged accordingly, then they would have plenty of local teens filling the summer job quota. But who in their right mind would work in the hot sun for less than $5 an hour?
I also give 2 thumbs up to Steve Levy. Now perhaps he could only come here and do what he is doing in Farmingville......
Petrone's Dealings
08-15-2005, 03:52 AM
Look at the scandal brewing between the Petrone Democrats and the Conservative employees of the town getting raises and perks and jobs for the minor party leaders.
The same thing can be said for developers and real estate brokers who do business in Huntington. The government works for them and not the citizens. The main reason Petrone and his Democrats don't have a master plan. They want absolute control over any and all building in the town.
THEY WANT A CITY. NOT A SUBURBAN CHARACTERISTIC TOWN. :x
So what do you think of the latest house closing, not only did levy not make his cameo, but he stated it was entirely the towns doing, what a turnaround, huh?
cameo not necessary
08-15-2005, 05:20 AM
as long as town does their job and Levy supports the town :)
hits home
08-15-2005, 02:58 PM
Look at the scandal brewing between the Petrone Democrats and the Conservative employees of the town getting raises and perks and jobs for the minor party leaders.
The same thing can be said for developers and real estate brokers who do business in Huntington. The government works for them and not the citizens. The main reason Petrone and his Democrats don't have a master plan. They want absolute control over any and all building in the town.
THEY WANT A CITY. NOT A SUBURBAN CHARACTERISTIC TOWN. :x
really :shock:
Amigo99
08-15-2005, 03:05 PM
www.dumpflanagan.com
Invasion In Full Force
08-16-2005, 01:49 AM
Look at the scandal brewing between the Petrone Democrats and the Conservative employees of the town getting raises and perks and jobs for the minor party leaders.
The same thing can be said for developers and real estate brokers who do business in Huntington. The government works for them and not the citizens. The main reason Petrone and his Democrats don't have a master plan. They want absolute control over any and all building in the town.
THEY WANT A CITY. NOT A SUBURBAN CHARACTERISTIC TOWN. :x
really :shock:
Governor of New Mexico declares state of emergency!
A million illegal Mexicans and OTM's " Other Than Mexicans" caught trying to cross the border. Most have made it through.
Violence reigns supreme along the border. Americans are endangered. Kidnappings rapes murders increasing on both sides of the border.
Drug lords control the flow of illegal aliens and drugs.
Nice to know they can come to Long Island and in particular Huntington and find affordable housing. :D
more STATES to come
08-20-2005, 08:12 PM
Look at the scandal brewing between the Petrone Democrats and the Conservative employees of the town getting raises and perks and jobs for the minor party leaders.
The same thing can be said for developers and real estate brokers who do business in Huntington. The government works for them and not the citizens. The main reason Petrone and his Democrats don't have a master plan. They want absolute control over any and all building in the town.
THEY WANT A CITY. NOT A SUBURBAN CHARACTERISTIC TOWN. :x
really :shock:
Governor of New Mexico declares state of emergency!
A million illegal Mexicans and OTM's " Other Than Mexicans" caught trying to cross the border. Most have made it through.
Violence reigns supreme along the border. Americans are endangered. Kidnappings rapes murders increasing on both sides of the border.
Drug lords control the flow of illegal aliens and drugs.
Nice to know they can come to Long Island and in particular Huntington and find affordable housing. :D
another state led by a Democrat Governor Declare and emergency in 4 counties on the border
Arizona has joined with New mexico to try and stem the lawlessness that is occurring on Mexican border on both sides
The states are starting to realize all this illegal immigration is a national disaster waiting to EXPLODE :twisted:
as long as town does their job and Levy supports the town :)
Agreed , however go further and see the false character that is obvious in this individual. Levy is nothing but a fair weather friend. He does flip flop when it comes to issues that will effect votes. Understandibly, illegals are a major concern, but don't think Levy is taking up that issue as a matter of people in their neighborhoods. Its all about votes and that is why he is letting someone else take the heat now.
Again something should be done about illegals. The quality of some L.I. communities are at stake. That being said we all agree.
However, this episode with Levy only shows his lack of honesty and integrity. He does not give a damn about you, just your vote.
Guest 26
10-26-2005, 07:50 PM
Levy For Pres
Pres of the 1 term Suffolk County Executive Club I hope.
waiting for next fire
10-26-2005, 08:36 PM
as long as town does their job and Levy supports the town :)
Agreed , however go further and see the false character that is obvious in this individual. Levy is nothing but a fair weather friend. He does flip flop when it comes to issues that will effect votes. Understandibly, illegals are a major concern, but don't think Levy is taking up that issue as a matter of people in their neighborhoods. Its all about votes and that is why he is letting someone else take the heat now.
Again something should be done about illegals. The quality of some L.I. communities are at stake. That being said we all agree.
However, this episode with Levy only shows his lack of honesty and /////////usitari//. He does not give a damn about you, just your vote.
In Huntington we can't get the town government to do a thing about illegal housing.
It would be nice to see if Levy keeps his word and starts to crackdown on slumlords here in town of Huntington.
Our local pols seem to be bought and paid for by the real estate lobby and many are slumlords.
The number of illegals has grown tremendously just in the last two years that on any given night you can see scores of men on the streets until the wee morning hours.
The houses used by slumlords are past the point of habitation and are fire traps waiting to ignite with all the use by illegal occupants.
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