View Full Version : Kathleen Rice's Voter Records Tampered With
BOE Caught in Act
06-18-2005, 06:49 PM
Someone thinking they were cleaver at the BOE charged Kathleen Rice's old voter record to "moved out of county" and tried to hide the fact. That allowed her to re-register as a Democrat immediately. They by-passed the voter registration system that records every changed made to a voter and who made the change. However when you pull up her record on the screen their is a change date that appears but no "activety date" and no change reason.
By the way the change date on the old Rep record just happens be the same date she enrolled as a DEM.
There is no way for this to happen unless it was intentional. Anytime a voter status is changed the last "activity date" is updated and a notation is made in change history. Someone was ordered to by-pass the system by directly entering the Oracle database and make a change that could not be explained.
Except they forgot about the change date. It clearly shows that her record as a registered Republican was changed on the same day she submitted her Democratic registration card.
You see under state law a party change is not effective until after the next general election. So to prevent her from running a primary as a registered Rep, they tried to change her registration illegally. But they were caught.
Someone noticed the change date and word has spread around the BOE and almost everyone there has seen this error.
The funny thing is they probably had a case to legitamately change her record. But not this crew. They wanted no questions asked so ordered someone to tamper with her record. Talk about a bunch of jokers running that place.
Just wondering why
06-18-2005, 09:51 PM
Who has the capablity to change a record over at the boe? the commissioner? the guy who took over for dennis? do the reps know about this? if she's a rep dont they have to wilson pakula rice? why does jacobs allow all these things to happen? He's sleazier than sabbeth. its nice to know he's watching over children.
Who has the capablity to change a record over at the boe? the commissioner? the guy who took over for dennis? do the reps know about this? if she's a rep dont they have to wilson pakula rice? why does jacobs allow all these things to happen? He's sleazier than sabbeth. its nice to know he's watching over children.
She running for the top law enforcement job in the county and the BOE needs to break the law to get her through a primary. Thats figures.
Who has the capablity to change a record over at the boe? the commissioner? the guy who took over for dennis? do the reps know about this? if she's a rep dont they have to wilson pakula rice? why does jacobs allow all these things to happen? He's sleazier than sabbeth. its nice to know he's watching over children.
She running for the top law enforcement job in the county and the BOE needs to break the law to get her through a primary. Thats figures.
If a crime has really been committed, stop posting on this board and contact the Nassau DA and State AG (perhaps Spota will take this on) and the newspapers from Snoozeday to the LI Press to the big city papers. Your charge, if true, is a story the Post would salivate over.
Otherwise, get a life.
Just Check the Records
06-20-2005, 12:30 PM
Who has the capablity to change a record over at the boe? the commissioner? the guy who took over for dennis? do the reps know about this? if she's a rep dont they have to wilson pakula rice? why does jacobs allow all these things to happen? He's sleazier than sabbeth. its nice to know he's watching over children.
She running for the top law enforcement job in the county and the BOE needs to break the law to get her through a primary. Thats figures.
If a crime has really been committed, stop posting on this board and contact the Nassau DA and State AG (perhaps Spota will take this on) and the newspapers from Snoozeday to the LI Press to the big city papers. Your charge, if true, is a story the Post would salivate over.
Otherwise, get a life.
You need only go to any BOE computer and pull her up. She appears twice. Her mysteriously cancelled record has a change date of 4/28/2005. And her new registration record s dated 4/29/2005 the very next day. However how card was time stamped on the 28th. So the day they recieve the registration they did something to her old record and tried to conceal it. But they forgot about the change date that the system adds to a voters record everytime its changed.
So we know her old record was changed on the very day her new registration was recieved. The problem is they bypassed the system to do it figuring no one would notice. But it has been noticed. Lets see if anyone is willing to do anything about it.
The reason again is that had her old registration not been altered she would not become a Democratic until after the general election. They did not want her to enter a primary as a registered Rep so they tampered with her records. Plain and simple.
LI Press 4
06-20-2005, 07:35 PM
thanks for the info old Jasper. Dont forget to tell Schlessinger.
JJ had Confirmed Her Reg
06-21-2005, 10:08 AM
Remember when announcing that she was the party's choice what Jay Jabobs said about Kathleen Rice:
"Jacobs said Rice is qualified to run because she grew up in Garden City, is registered to vote here, and has only been away for the years she has been assigned to work for the U.S. attorney's office in Philadelphia. He said Rice has commitments for $100,000 in contributions and that she's registered in Garden City since 1984. He declined to disclose her voting record yesterday." Newsday. (Combined editions). Long Island, N.Y.: Apr 12, 2005. pg. A.05
Thats what he said. Then they decided that her registration in Nassau would be a problem in a primary and ordered the BOE to remove her as a voter. You see at that time they thought they could pressure Cyndi Kouril out of the race.
But when they couldn't they felt that Rice being a registered voter in Nassau was no longer an asset, they illegally tried to remove her as an active voter but have been caught.
regg rep
06-21-2005, 12:55 PM
Wasn't there also a Newsday article where she was identified as being a registered republican?
Shouldn't she need Wilson Pikula signed in order to run?
it would have been simpler and less corrupt to stick with the original plan to cross endorse Dillon in stead of going forward with this farce.
Issues for JJ
06-21-2005, 01:16 PM
THIS IS A BIG ISSUE. CINDY, USE THIS!
board of all ethics
06-22-2005, 12:30 AM
Thats the kind of leadership that the dems at the BOE display. they reserve the right to do anything they want at anytime to achieve any desired conclusion
Rice Baked because of JJ
06-22-2005, 05:37 AM
Good job guys. Why not provoke him again. Everyone knows DH had this info for weeks and didn't want to use it. He simply asked not to be bothered by the party again. You guys decided to attack him on another thread and this was his response. Keep up you damage control. Its working great. Can't wait to see his posting
OH NO RICE
06-22-2005, 12:53 PM
JS of the BOE hass been seen advising DA candidate Kathleen Rice. :roll: :roll: :roll:
JS of the BOE hass been seen advising DA candidate Kathleen Rice. :roll: :roll: :roll:
Then she's sure to lose the primary.
col. klink
06-22-2005, 06:57 PM
Why is col klink advising rice? Is she not capable of tampering with her own records?
This has got to be a joke. They can't be this stupid.
Guest 23
01-19-2006, 06:34 PM
Is this the tampering that's being discussed in other threads? Has anything further been done with this? Perhaps the new majority in the Legislature can conduct its own investigation, once that mess is cleaned up.
Former DA
01-22-2006, 11:26 PM
If what you are saying about Rice is true and you have the evidence then you need to immediately get off this message board and contact 1) the F.B.I. and 2) the NYS Attorney General. (in that order).
Spota does not have jurisdiction over this because it is in Nassau county.
Do it now. Get out of the rumor mill and into the real world.
If this is true, this is serious corruption that threatens the very foundation of honest elctions in the county. Go to the F.B.I. right now.
Do it!
Call today.
Call today and win a free toaster! Weenies.....
grown up
01-23-2006, 09:33 PM
If what you are saying about Rice is true and you have the evidence then you need to immediately get off this message board and contact 1) the F.B.I. and 2) the NYS Attorney General. (in that order).
Spota does not have jurisdiction over this because it is in Nassau county.
Do it now. Get out of the rumor mill and into the real world.
If this is true, this is serious corruption that threatens the very foundation of honest elctions in the county. Go to the F.B.I. right now.
These boards are false info
If there was something it would not be unearthed here.
Do it!
Why break the law and risk it? Why not just give Rice the Wilson Pikula? 100% legal to do. And it had already been in the papers that Rice was once a Republican...not like they're hiding that anyways.
Why break the law and risk it? Why not just give Rice the Wilson Pikula? 100% legal to do. And it had already been in the papers that Rice was once a Republican...not like they're hiding that anyways.
More rumor and gossip. If you have the proof go to the Feds or Spitzer (I guarentee you he will jump all over it). Of course if this is just another made up story, then let it die. No one will run with it unless there is proof that is the simple truth. Anonymous rumors are treated just like that....anonymous rumors.
It's No Rumor
01-24-2006, 01:18 PM
Why break the law and risk it? Why not just give Rice the Wilson Pikula? 100% legal to do. And it had already been in the papers that Rice was once a Republican...not like they're hiding that anyways.
More rumor and gossip. If you have the proof go to the Feds or Spitzer (I guarentee you he will jump all over it). Of course if this is just another made up story, then let it die. No one will run with it unless there is proof that is the simple truth. Anonymous rumors are treated just like that....anonymous rumors.
Go to the BOE and ask to use their public access computers. Its there for anyone to see. You will find two records for Ms. Rice. One has been inactivated with no "change history." You will also find another filed last year enrolling her as a Dem. Its not a secret. Anyone can go to the BOE and look. The best excuse is that it was a computer error. However, they can't point to any other voter where this has same "error" has occured in 7 years of using the system.
If it wasn't an issue, then why did the Dems file an "authorization" for her. They would not have needed to if she was a legit Dem.
The reason they didn't want to write a Wilson Pakula for her was because there was a huge backlash from Zone leaders and county committee people over whole the idea of cross endorsing any Republican, Denis Dillon or otherwise, when there was a well qualified Dem was already running.
Dems were furious over the cross endorsement of Dillon idea and very vocal about not wanting to sabotage a Dem for the sake of a Rep.
So JJ started slandering and denigrating the Dem and when that didn't work, changed his tune and said that Rice had not been a Rep for years.
Problem was the BOE records contradicted that, since they still carried Rice as a Rep..
So, the BOE records were a problem.
Geez, Ms. Khouril, you tried to conduct your campaign from the internet, and now you wish to continue it on line. Again, while this
does sound like the sourest of grapes, you need to speak with someone in the US Attorney's Office or the FBI if you wish to go on the record with this. Otherwise, this is gossip and hearsay.
The reason they didn't want to write a Wilson Pakula for her was because there was a huge backlash from Zone leaders and county committee people over whole the idea of cross endorsing any Republican, Denis Dillon or otherwise, when there was a well qualified Dem was already running.
Dems were furious over the cross endorsement of Dillon idea and very vocal about not wanting to sabotage a Dem for the sake of a Rep.
So JJ started slandering and denigrating the Dem and when that didn't work, changed his tune and said that Rice had not been a Rep for years.
Problem was the BOE records contradicted that, since they still carried Rice as a Rep..
So, the BOE records were a problem.
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