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George the First
12-30-2010, 07:41 PM
How about the boys at NIFA tell us what they are going to do with Nassau finances BEFORE they are permitted to take over?

Maybe Newsday could find out for us?

Maybe the new governor and majority leader can ask a few questions so that Nassau residents will know what will happen to their services and/or taxes?

Playtime and threats are over boys. Time to show us how smart you are.

Nifaday
12-30-2010, 07:53 PM
RIGHT!

Let's see the "NIFA Plan" for Nassau's fiscal recovery.

SPECIFICS!

Print it Newsday.

Compare the NIFA plan with the Mangano plan.

In short, do some real reporting for a change. Ask the Cuomo administration if it agrees with NIFA's "plan."

Come on ... you know you want to .....

Unregistered3233333333
12-30-2010, 10:28 PM
RIGHT!

Let's see the "NIFA Plan" for Nassau's fiscal recovery.

SPECIFICS!

Print it Newsday.

Compare the NIFA plan with the Mangano plan.

In short, do some real reporting for a change. Ask the Cuomo administration if it agrees with NIFA's "plan."

Come on ... you know you want to .....

The Mangano plan is he has no plan. If allowed he will borow money that we will all have to pay for in the end. NIFAs planis no mystery, refi some debt, freeze Union wages for two years and raise taxes.

The County tax system is foolish, YOu get assesed for say 3 grand in County taxes ( left out school , town etc) meanwhile the Counties expenses go up every year, but your County tax does not. At some point they HAVE to raise taxes. Peoples taxes should have a tie in with the cost of living. Otherwise we just borrow money that we end up paying double for not to mention not doing proper maintinence on County Rds and building to save now and then pay double to have them completely redone 10 years before they should hav been because they have not been maintained. Same with Union contracts, no more negotiating with back door deals or public sentiment. Tie raises into the CPI and inflation. If inflation is stagment, no rasies, if it shoots up to 3 % then its 3%. And Public employees need to start paying into their pensions. There so many simple fair solutions

Writer378
12-31-2010, 09:09 AM
The Mangano plan is he has no plan. If allowed he will borow money that we will all have to pay for in the end. NIFAs planis no mystery, refi some debt, freeze Union wages for two years and raise taxes.

The County tax system is foolish, YOu get assesed for say 3 grand in County taxes ( left out school , town etc) meanwhile the Counties expenses go up every year, but your County tax does not. At some point they HAVE to raise taxes. Peoples taxes should have a tie in with the cost of living. Otherwise we just borrow money that we end up paying double for not to mention not doing proper maintinence on County Rds and building to save now and then pay double to have them completely redone 10 years before they should hav been because they have not been maintained. Same with Union contracts, no more negotiating with back door deals or public sentiment. Tie raises into the CPI and inflation. If inflation is stagment, no rasies, if it shoots up to 3 % then its 3%. And Public employees need to start paying into their pensions. There so many simple fair solutions

Sounds simple enough. Now let's see NIFA express it in writing and in public.

Unregistered100car
12-31-2010, 10:16 AM
Public employees DO pay into their pensions..the media like to make it seem it comes out of YOUR pocket..do your homework.

Unregistered567
12-31-2010, 10:50 AM
Sounds simple enough. Now let's see NIFA express it in writing and in public.

NIFA Doesn't have to do anything in writing that's the counties job. NIFA has increased power to freeze and restrict contracts and expenditures, borrow money. They shouldn't have to do too much after all according to Mangano the budget is balanced.

Unregistered89898
12-31-2010, 03:15 PM
Public employees DO pay into their pensions..the media like to make it seem it comes out of YOUR pocket..do your homework.

Sigh. I think public pensions are a good thing. The private sector should not be demanding that th epublic sector lose their pensions, they should b efighting to get their own like they used to. As far as public employees paying for their pensions, hardly. 3% of salary for the first 10 years then there done. You think paying 50 grand into a pension that pays you more then that every year for the rest of your life constitutes the tax payers not paying for your pension ? Public employees should be paying 10% of salary for their entire career

Unregistered77
12-31-2010, 06:01 PM
you should compare apples to apples. starting salary is thirty in public jobs.private sector is eighty.it will take 8 to 10 years in public sector.

Unregistered332323
12-31-2010, 06:21 PM
you should compare apples to apples. starting salary is thirty in public jobs.private sector is eighty.it will take 8 to 10 years in public sector.

YOu cant compare apples to apples becasue they are apples to oranges. My point was you said public employees pay for their pensions, they dont, they maybe pay for 5% of it. And coming out of college most kids are not banging down 80 grand, not even close. Public sector have the pension, the medical, the time off and other perks. What it DOES NOT have is the ability to switch from company to company or a chance to move up the ladder to a million dollar gig. You dont get a fat bonus or stock options in public either. The point is people are living longer, pubic salarys have climbed up to become very comparable to their private sector counterparts. Public employees need to start kicking in more towrds their pensions. If they where smart they would do it now before things get so bad and the tax payer and public sentiment gets so bad that the pendulum swings way to the other side and they lose their pensions. As it is the GOP is trying to write Federal law that ALLOWS states to go bankrupt and cop out of their employee pension costs.

Mel Brooks
12-31-2010, 07:32 PM
Trying to be upbeat as possible with all the negative discussion - NIFA is Coming, Suozzi appointed flunkys, the Republicans destroyed Nassau, Mangano can’t get a handle of what’s going on, yada, yada,yada, bla bla bla... I think some are missing the point. While it may be true that the Republicans controlled Nassau for 30 years and yes they did sell off County owned buildings and land (or allowed them to rot), allowed attrition to decay the personnel supply in many agencies down to a skeletal framework and began contracting out previously run County operations to the private sector, they also did manage to hold the line on taxes. How? Before every election, you couldn’t buy a paperclip. Spending was halted (except for a few emergent purchases and there was usually a large sale of some County commodity, building or property. That was how they did it, until there was nothing valuable left to get rid of or sell. When that happened, they stopped buying essential items to maintain the existing County offices. The vast majority of the taxpayers in Nassau didn’t know this was going on and they didn’t care because their taxes were not getting raised. Meanwhile, the already strapped public employees had to “Do more with less” and that didn’t prevent the layoffs of 78 and 92, the “bumping” and stress that their families had to endure for the years prior to the actual layoff cannot be measured or compensated for. This administrative strategy resulted in the reelection of existing officials. The methodology worked well for close to 30 years until Nassau’s bond rating went into the toilet as well as its credibility as a fiscally potent County. When it was over and the Administration knew it, they scuttled the ship by making big ticket item expenditures – fleets of vehicles, paving roads, hiring and promoting as many people as they could get onto the workforce and moving politicos to safe, civil service protected positions.

Next came Tom Suozzi and the Democrats. Tom let the people of Nassau know the Republican fiscal mess he was left with and the taxpayers gave him 19+% to repair the damage. But at that point in time, Tom didn’t really want to be just the Nassau CE, he wanted to be the NY Gov, so he went about hiring and contracting out to as many non-Nassau entities (mostly from NYC) as he could to improve his chances in a State election. That really didn’t work well, since he ticked off the high level State Dems. He also had an extremely abrasive social manner with most County employees and staff as did some of his hires who made it clear that everyone and everything that existed before they arrived could not be working well. Many of the contractors employed had absolutely no interest in Nassau and rarely constructed a viable product for the County, they did however, get paid. Unfortunately, Tom also had a habit of bumping into neighbors and friends and would ask them if they’d like to have jobs in his administration and ‘poof’ before you knew it there was a new Commish or Deputy CE. That hiring policy really didn’t work so well and resulted in one scandal after another – even Nerdsday had to report what was happening. In all fairness to Tom though, he did realize that Nassau’s infrastructure was falling apart and he started rebuilding it, along with donated wooden horses. Of course, spending 67 million on the Old Courthouse, especially when the Fire Marshal didn’t let him open it, was a bit much, and what about all those departmental moves, at a minimum of 1 million per move. That money probably would have been better spent building a new County Center with an enclosed ramp garage on County owned property. I think his administration was just coming together towards the end of his second term, but unfortunately the money was gone and the Nassau taxpayers were all done with him.

Last, but not least comes the Mangano Administration. I believe Ed truly does care about making Nassau a better place to live and he really doesn’t want to devastate the workforce in the process. Both he and Rob are certainly more easy to deal with and act like gentleman. There is nothing wrong with supporting the Fire and Police, but you still need search for competency and experience. You can’t keep using the excuse that you don’t trust people. No one can be trusted, ultimately and that includes family and friends, unless of course you’re Mr. Spock! I think the Suozzi administration had some excellent dedicated people working for it and I think one of them is on the NIFA Board. NIFA only wants Nassau to run in a functional manner and they are supposed to work with the CE to make it so. Also, the Administration should get off the County Employees backs with their threats. Public servants work just as hard as any private sector employees. We all don’t sit around watching the clock until it is time to go home. The benefits given to the employees are a compensation for the poor wage and reward scales which are supposed to fair, but are really not. It has long been a tactic of a failing or incompetent administration that blames its workforce for the problems of the world. They need to look elsewhere. There are definitely a couple of weak links in the County Admin network who still work very close together with each other and yes, it does point to Suozzi appointees mainly in HHS. Ed is still being kept in the dark about those individuals, but I’m sure he’ll find them shortly if he looks carefully. On a positive note, I’m sure the County employees will continue to provide the best possible service they can under the deteriorating conditions.

Good Old Boys
01-01-2011, 11:21 AM
NIFA Doesn't have to do anything in writing that's the counties job. NIFA has increased power to freeze and restrict contracts and expenditures, borrow money. They shouldn't have to do too much after all according to Mangano the budget is balanced.

Let's see what the expected results of their actions.

If the County doesn't do X then NIFA will do Y resulting in Z.

The public and the Governor and other leaders who appoint the members of NIFA have a right and expectation of knowing the results of NIFA's action.

Just saying its not their job to put in in writing is a major cop out and typical of politically appointed boards of "great men (ie the good old boys)" who we regular folks are to assume know what they are doing.

Put up or shut up boys.

Unregistered2121
01-01-2011, 12:08 PM
Let's see what the expected results of their actions.

If the County doesn't do X then NIFA will do Y resulting in Z.

The public and the Governor and other leaders who appoint the members of NIFA have a right and expectation of knowing the results of NIFA's action.

Just saying its not their job to put in in writing is a major cop out and typical of politically appointed boards of "great men (ie the good old boys)" who we regular folks are to assume know what they are doing.

Put up or shut up boys.

The above is your opinion. WHat NIFA does or does not have to do involves the law. I would imagine they would all laugh at you when you demanded they put certain things in writing. That is of course they actualy bothered to even speak to you.

Unregisteredstark reality
01-01-2011, 02:36 PM
The above is your opinion. WHat NIFA does or does not have to do involves the law. I would imagine they would all laugh at you when you demanded they put certain things in writing. That is of course they actualy bothered to even speak to you.

sounds like NIFA wants to be a Tom Suozzi proxy dictatorship, lead by the Suozzi hack cronies who were thrown out by the voters in 2009. Even the token "conservative" was picked by a Democratic Senator who was thrown out on his ass. Some respect for small "d" democracy, you punk.

Unregistered122
01-01-2011, 07:10 PM
sounds like NIFA wants to be a Tom Suozzi proxy dictatorship, lead by the Suozzi hack cronies who were thrown out by the voters in 2009. Even the token "conservative" was picked by a Democratic Senator who was thrown out on his ass. Some respect for small "d" democracy, you punk.

Why amI punk ? Becasue I know the political reality of the mater at hand. AS for what NIFA wants, they want no part of NAssau COunty. YOu think Cuomo wants to be blamed for rasing taxes in Nassau ? But Mangano refuses to rasie taxes , cant borrow any more money so whats he going to do? WHat he is going to do is nothing , let NIFA come in and be the bad guy. The GOP is riding a wave now of promising no tax increases. But when they try tp make cuts those effected go nuts, parks, school districts. whatever. Now that there in there proving to be ineffective. The County by the way has been run virtualy the same be it the GOP or the Dem party

u r a punk b/c
01-01-2011, 11:54 PM
Why amI punk ? Becasue I know the political reality of the mater at hand. AS for what NIFA wants, they want no part of NAssau COunty. YOu think Cuomo wants to be blamed for rasing taxes in Nassau ? But Mangano refuses to rasie taxes , cant borrow any more money so whats he going to do? WHat he is going to do is nothing , let NIFA come in and be the bad guy. The GOP is riding a wave now of promising no tax increases. But when they try tp make cuts those effected go nuts, parks, school districts. whatever. Now that there in there proving to be ineffective. The County by the way has been run virtualy the same be it the GOP or the Dem party

OH, please. This is an obvious attempted power grab by the Jay Jacobs Democrats. Jacobs sees his influence and power base dwindling with the defeat of Suozzi and the arrival of Cuomo. Jay's last shot at anything was the Rice primary, where he came up short, and now has to deal with an AG whom he opposed. All the big players in the NYS Democratic Party disrespect Jay Jay: Cuomo, DiNapoli, the new attorney general, and Speaker Silver. They owe him nothing, and consider him to be a nobody, someone who owes everything politically to Suozzi and Rice. Suozzi is a loser both statewide and countywide. And Jay Jacobs couldn't deliver the attorney general nod to Rice.

Jay Jay will now have to boss around the few remaining Democrats at the Board of Elections to work on campaigns, and will have to limit his operations to local venues. He can't send volunteers statewide anymore, or else he'll tax the few that he has. Even the Suozzi Democrats still embedded in Nassau government are not incentivized to work for Jay Jay. The appointees will try to gain favor with the Republicans. Those who have civil service protection have no need for what Jacobs has to offer, which is nothing.

Even someone as obtuse as Jacobs can read the handwriting on the wall, so he fires his first salvo in his war to regain prestige through a ridiculous OP Ed in Newsday calling for Mangano to resign. Then we get an orchestrated power grab through "news" stories planted at Newsday. Newsday would rather fill its pages with stories which make Mangano look bad, rather than focusing their attention on Washington or Albany.

Mangano confronts the Board and they back down. This is why you're a punk if you think that NIFA was heroic, when in fact it was a power grab by Suozzi's old flunkies, particularly the pathetic ones who didn't have the smarts to retire or the connections to land jobs with New York State, or return to NYC government, as some have done.

I would agree with you that Cuomo does not want anything to do with Jay Jacobs or to be dragged into Nassau County politics. He has enough on his plate in Albany reigning in the government spending and a toxic political culture. Cuomo is also astute enough to recognize that he will need the GOP Senate to help reign in the self-aggrandizing interests and to do the tough things which need to be done to resolve the State's issues. Mangano, of course, is obligated to the job he is elected to, and within the allotted time of his four year term. Then the real stakeholders - the Nassau County Voters - can decide his fate in 2013.

Unregistered233
01-02-2011, 09:36 AM
OH, please. This is an obvious attempted power grab by the Jay Jacobs Democrats. Jacobs sees his influence and power base dwindling with the defeat of Suozzi and the arrival of Cuomo. Jay's last shot at anything was the Rice primary, where he came up short, and now has to deal with an AG whom he opposed. All the big players in the NYS Democratic Party disrespect Jay Jay: Cuomo, DiNapoli, the new attorney general, and Speaker Silver. They owe him nothing, and consider him to be a nobody, someone who owes everything politically to Suozzi and Rice. Suozzi is a loser both statewide and countywide. And Jay Jacobs couldn't deliver the attorney general nod to Rice.

Jay Jay will now have to boss around the few remaining Democrats at the Board of Elections to work on campaigns, and will have to limit his operations to local venues. He can't send volunteers statewide anymore, or else he'll tax the few that he has. Even the Suozzi Democrats still embedded in Nassau government are not incentivized to work for Jay Jay. The appointees will try to gain favor with the Republicans. Those who have civil service protection have no need for what Jacobs has to offer, which is nothing.

Even someone as obtuse as Jacobs can read the handwriting on the wall, so he fires his first salvo in his war to regain prestige through a ridiculous OP Ed in Newsday calling for Mangano to resign. Then we get an orchestrated power grab through "news" stories planted at Newsday. Newsday would rather fill its pages with stories which make Mangano look bad, rather than focusing their attention on Washington or Albany.

Mangano confronts the Board and they back down. This is why you're a punk if you think that NIFA was heroic, when in fact it was a power grab by Suozzi's old flunkies, particularly the pathetic ones who didn't have the smarts to retire or the connections to land jobs with New York State, or return to NYC government, as some have done.

I would agree with you that Cuomo does not want anything to do with Jay Jacobs or to be dragged into Nassau County politics. He has enough on his plate in Albany reigning in the government spending and a toxic political culture. Cuomo is also astute enough to recognize that he will need the GOP Senate to help reign in the self-aggrandizing interests and to do the tough things which need to be done to resolve the State's issues. Mangano, of course, is obligated to the job he is elected to, and within the allotted time of his four year term. Then the real stakeholders - the Nassau County Voters - can decide his fate in 2013.

YOu think this is a power grab ? Boy are you deluded. First off, I did not like SUozzi , he was arrogant and vindcitive. Second, NIFA is controlled by the ALbany and Jacobs has virtualy zero if any say at all in what they do. Third Nsaau is 160 MILLION IN THE HOLE. NIFA is still around for the last time the GOP ran it onto the ground. I dont think NIFA is heroic, I just think that as appointed individuals of mixed party affiliations they can do what has to be done but nobody wants to do, rasie taxes. Nothing short of that will save the COunty. I have no ill will for MAngano, I was actualy a big Gullotta fan , while he had his faults he also took the rap for everythin that went wrong, never pointed fingers and walked away as a man, but man, you must be part of Manganos camp that your so infuriated at the political ramifications of a NIFA takeover and see secret plots against you. And NIFA did not back down, they gave Mangano another shot to come up with a realistic budget. Are you going to tell me that Manganos first budget was realistic and should have passed ? ANd I dont think Newsday had beenunfair to Mangano, the article I read all point out at this debt was coming and there was little he coudl do to stop it. I m retired but I dont want to see NIFA becasue many of my friends work for COunty ( none of them are political appoitnments and have all been there 20 plus years) so I dont want to see NIFA freeze their wages. My point is this is not a power gran, NIFA is pissed they have to be here, give them a realistic budget and they will gladly walk away, but if you think the County after being incompetant enough to not get a realistic budget in order is going to demand NIFA explain what it will do is not going to happen. If the above makes me a punk so be it. Meanhwile you can keep checking under your bed for the Jay Jacobs monster, before your post I actualy thought he went the way of the dodo . YOu spend most of youir post talking about how he has no power left ( i agree) the rest talking about how those who do have power dont want NIFA to take over yet still subscribe ti this takeover theory

HHS thoughts
01-02-2011, 10:44 AM
Trying to be upbeat as possible with all the negative discussion - NIFA is Coming, Suozzi appointed flunkys, the Republicans destroyed Nassau, Mangano can’t get a handle of what’s going on, yada, yada,yada, bla bla bla... I think some are missing the point. While it may be true that the Republicans controlled Nassau for 30 years and yes they did sell off County owned buildings and land (or allowed them to rot), allowed attrition to decay the personnel supply in many agencies down to a skeletal framework and began contracting out previously run County operations to the private sector, they also did manage to hold the line on taxes. How? Before every election, you couldn’t buy a paperclip. Spending was halted (except for a few emergent purchases and there was usually a large sale of some County commodity, building or property. That was how they did it, until there was nothing valuable left to get rid of or sell. When that happened, they stopped buying essential items to maintain the existing County offices. The vast majority of the taxpayers in Nassau didn’t know this was going on and they didn’t care because their taxes were not getting raised. Meanwhile, the already strapped public employees had to “Do more with less” and that didn’t prevent the layoffs of 78 and 92, the “bumping” and stress that their families had to endure for the years prior to the actual layoff cannot be measured or compensated for. This administrative strategy resulted in the reelection of existing officials. The methodology worked well for close to 30 years until Nassau’s bond rating went into the toilet as well as its credibility as a fiscally potent County. When it was over and the Administration knew it, they scuttled the ship by making big ticket item expenditures – fleets of vehicles, paving roads, hiring and promoting as many people as they could get onto the workforce and moving politicos to safe, civil service protected positions.

Next came Tom Suozzi and the Democrats. Tom let the people of Nassau know the Republican fiscal mess he was left with and the taxpayers gave him 19+% to repair the damage. But at that point in time, Tom didn’t really want to be just the Nassau CE, he wanted to be the NY Gov, so he went about hiring and contracting out to as many non-Nassau entities (mostly from NYC) as he could to improve his chances in a State election. That really didn’t work well, since he ticked off the high level State Dems. He also had an extremely abrasive social manner with most County employees and staff as did some of his hires who made it clear that everyone and everything that existed before they arrived could not be working well. Many of the contractors employed had absolutely no interest in Nassau and rarely constructed a viable product for the County, they did however, get paid. Unfortunately, Tom also had a habit of bumping into neighbors and friends and would ask them if they’d like to have jobs in his administration and ‘poof’ before you knew it there was a new Commish or Deputy CE. That hiring policy really didn’t work so well and resulted in one scandal after another – even Nerdsday had to report what was happening. In all fairness to Tom though, he did realize that Nassau’s infrastructure was falling apart and he started rebuilding it, along with donated wooden horses. Of course, spending 67 million on the Old Courthouse, especially when the Fire Marshal didn’t let him open it, was a bit much, and what about all those departmental moves, at a minimum of 1 million per move. That money probably would have been better spent building a new County Center with an enclosed ramp garage on County owned property. I think his administration was just coming together towards the end of his second term, but unfortunately the money was gone and the Nassau taxpayers were all done with him.

Last, but not least comes the Mangano Administration. I believe Ed truly does care about making Nassau a better place to live and he really doesn’t want to devastate the workforce in the process. Both he and Rob are certainly more easy to deal with and act like gentleman. There is nothing wrong with supporting the Fire and Police, but you still need search for competency and experience. You can’t keep using the excuse that you don’t trust people. No one can be trusted, ultimately and that includes family and friends, unless of course you’re Mr. Spock! I think the Suozzi administration had some excellent dedicated people working for it and I think one of them is on the NIFA Board. NIFA only wants Nassau to run in a functional manner and they are supposed to work with the CE to make it so. Also, the Administration should get off the County Employees backs with their threats. Public servants work just as hard as any private sector employees. We all don’t sit around watching the clock until it is time to go home. The benefits given to the employees are a compensation for the poor wage and reward scales which are supposed to fair, but are really not. It has long been a tactic of a failing or incompetent administration that blames its workforce for the problems of the world. They need to look elsewhere. There are definitely a couple of weak links in the County Admin network who still work very close together with each other and yes, it does point to Suozzi appointees mainly in HHS. Ed is still being kept in the dark about those individuals, but I’m sure he’ll find them shortly if he looks carefully. On a positive note, I’m sure the County employees will continue to provide the best possible service they can under the deteriorating conditions.

Nice, thoughtful analysis. Can you offer any detail on HHS and who should go? Here are a few thoughts, but I'd like to hear yours as well.

It looks like the Youth Board has been gutted, except for a few holdovers that should probably go too. The Youth Board was financed by keeping administrative costs from community based programs and using that portion of the State revenue to fund their own bloated, unecessary, self-important "administration" that supported many extremely poorly run programs over the years; programs in poor neighborhoods, for example, that did not operate in anything approaching a competent manner but that gave the appearance of being there for the poor and needy. What a disgrace that they pocketed money and gave these programs a liberal pass. This went on in some places for decades. Suozzi collapsed mental health and chemical dependency and developmental disabilities into one agency under Arlene Sanchez who is off to Albany to become Cuomo's commissioner of the Office of Alcoholism and Substance Abuse Services. Sanchez was a fine County commissioner that Mangano wisely kept on. I guess she was one of the City people that Suozzi brought in to support is gubenatorial aspirations. Further collapsing mental health-chemical dependency-developmental disabilities with others like aging or physical disabilities will be a mistake, but they must find the kind of leadership that Sanchez offered. DSS, the centerpiece of Suozzi's "No Wrong Door" slogan never lived up to his rhetoric or p.r. videos. That place on Charles Lindbergh is a total disaster and has not had competent or ethical leadership for the last several years. Mangano and Walker have a real opportunity to do something here.

Your thoughts?

Youth Board
01-02-2011, 11:19 AM
Whats a Ute?

Wasted money at this site led by liberal niggaz.....

Unregistered567
01-02-2011, 12:55 PM
sounds like NIFA wants to be a Tom Suozzi proxy dictatorship, lead by the Suozzi hack cronies who were thrown out by the voters in 2009. Even the token "conservative" was picked by a Democratic Senator who was thrown out on his ass. Some respect for small "d" democracy, you punk.

Led by Suozzi cronies, you mean it wasn't people like Walker, Maragos, Ciampoli, Schmidt who came up with these great ideas like the indian casino and union give backs that got the county to this point, nice try.

Unregistereddssd
01-02-2011, 03:18 PM
The issue of a NIFA takeover goes much deeper. Cuomo and Mangano have forged an alliance of sorts. It began about eight months ago, and has continued to this day. Cuomo is a very cunning politician. He has included Republicans in his transition team, has befriended them....why? Politics. It helps to project the image of the Clinton triangulation even before his term begins. This will cement his base and will also allow the independents to stay in his camp.

The end result, Mangano gets a pass, for now, and NIFA is leashed. It keeps Mangano and the Republican base happy, keeps the unions happy, and keeps local control and allows Mangano to save face and Cuomo picks up Nassau County. Relections are won the day after you are elected.

No NIFA takeover
01-02-2011, 03:54 PM
keep dreaming...but if u look at the NIFA employees, the average one makes over $135,000 a year. A wast eof your State tax dollars.

RFPppp
01-02-2011, 04:27 PM
keep dreaming...but if u look at the NIFA employees, the average one makes over $135,000 a year. A wast eof your State tax dollars.

Also, how did they pick their "consultants?" Was an RFP issued? Or did they just pick their pals?

Unregistered NIFA
01-02-2011, 05:56 PM
The issue of a NIFA takeover goes much deeper. Cuomo and Mangano have forged an alliance of sorts. It began about eight months ago, and has continued to this day. Cuomo is a very cunning politician. He has included Republicans in his transition team, has befriended them....why? Politics. It helps to project the image of the Clinton triangulation even before his term begins. This will cement his base and will also allow the independents to stay in his camp.

The end result, Mangano gets a pass, for now, and NIFA is leashed. It keeps Mangano and the Republican base happy, keeps the unions happy, and keeps local control and allows Mangano to save face and Cuomo picks up Nassau County. Relections are won the day after you are elected.

If NIFA doesn't take over in a few weeks at tehir next meeting I will be stunned. Clinton triangulation? now there is a theory that surpasses the grassy knoll. They gave Mangano and the unions one more chance, takeover is inevitable unless they push the problem down the road once again an dmake it worse. NIFA is independent by the way, do the math the present budget stinks, you tell me where it is even close to balanced.

fdsafsdfdfdgggfsdas
01-02-2011, 08:08 PM
the best thing about nifa is perhaps they have the possibility to reign in on the excessive cops salaries and benefits

Unregistered2323
01-02-2011, 09:42 PM
the best thing about nifa is perhaps they have the possibility to reign in on the excessive cops salaries and benefits

They have the ability to freeze cops wages, they can take away nothing they already have in place and when NIFA leaves the raises kick back in.

PerpWatch
01-02-2011, 10:17 PM
the best thing about nifa is perhaps they have the possibility to reign in on the excessive cops salaries and benefits

Yeah go after cops instead of wall street criminals.....waaa I couldnt pass the police test waaa!

Unregistered un
01-03-2011, 11:36 AM
Yeah go after cops instead of wall street criminals.....waaa I couldnt pass the police test waaa!

I didn't know that was the choice, interesting.