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06-13-2005, 09:16 PM
The bozo's of the pat med district once again trying the scare tactic. The school board and superintendent are trying to say that they will eliminate all kindergarten classes.........Hello kaiser and company..........N.Y. State laws says you will have to provide a place in class for any child 5 years of age by december ........ooops try another one jerks.

06-13-2005, 10:30 PM
the majority of the board was not supportive of this proposal from what I hear. There will be more teachers cut most likely to help make up for the costs. I have a question...how come the teachers union won't give back money or contribute to their retirement or health insurance to help relieve the burden of finding money to pass the budget?

06-13-2005, 10:39 PM
would you be willing to give back money or pay for benefits? I wouldn't and I'm not a teacher. Time to do that is at negotiations.

06-13-2005, 11:04 PM
If I cared about children and my colleagues losing their jobs and it was a matter of having 15-20 more dollars taken out of my paycheck yes. Half of this increase is related to the retirement, insurance, and salaries that mr. kaiser, lo schiavo, brady, nett, raby voted for. Feluzis and Weeks too.

No maybe I wouldn't want to give it up. But I wouldn't be in the audience clapping and praising people who are getting up to criticize these cuts when they're not doing shit to save it. They wanted these positions restored, the Board restored them and then they turn around and endorse a candidate who didn't even vote for the budget! They are a disgrace and I hope this Board gives them hell the next time their contract is up.

06-13-2005, 11:33 PM
Listen, the one thing I noticed at the last meeting is people talking out of both sides of your mouth. The fact is that almost 3 million bucks have to be cut. So if you keep kindegarten which it looks like the Board will wind up doing after all, you have to cut more teachers. That increases class size. Don't let me see you people who were on the attack about kindegarten getting up to talk about how its a disgrace that there are more students in your children's class or else I'll get the pitchfork after you and Mostow. Stop being hypocrites. I didn't see half you people there with the initial budget. Nothing like Monday night quarterbacking. Oh and another thing, Miles was dead right...people want a mercedes education with ford escort money. People don't like the truth but besides its being hurt it will set you free.

LegalEagle
06-14-2005, 01:55 PM
To the first poster on this thread:

Please note that NY State Law 3205 only compels children from 6-16 to attend school. Local school boards may require children who are 5 on or before December 1st to attend a full year of kindergarten, but that is wholly within the perogative of the local board. I have attached the actual law below for your reference. Perhaps before you quote the law you should read the law.

§ 3205. Attendance of minors upon full time day instruction. 1. a. In
each school district of the state, each minor from six to sixteen years
of age shall attend upon full time instruction.
b. Each minor from six to sixteen years of age on an Indian
reservation shall attend upon full time day instruction.
c. For purposes of this article, a minor who becomes six years of age
on or before the first of December in any school year shall be required
to attend upon full time instruction from the first day that the
appropriate public schools are in session in September of such school
year, and a minor who becomes six years of age after the first of
December in any school year shall be required to attend upon full time
instruction from the first day of session in the following September;
and, except as otherwise provided in subdivision three of this section,
shall be required to remain in attendance until the last day of session
in the school year in which the minor becomes sixteen years of age.

no raises
06-14-2005, 04:20 PM
would you be willing to give back money or pay for benefits? I wouldn't and I'm not a teacher. Time to do that is at negotiations.

Don't give them a choice. I am a civil servant without a contract for 3 years. And the last one had 2 years of zeroes. These teachers should be told at the next contract talks that the time has come for a pay freeze and health care contributions. If they don't like it they can quit.

Tired of Paying
06-14-2005, 04:37 PM
I agree with you. The real test with this superintendent will be how he handles these contracts. And with a Board member in Human Resorces maybe we can get this straightened out. The key to my wallet has been thrown away.

Wrong facts for teachers
06-14-2005, 05:53 PM
would you be willing to give back money or pay for benefits? I wouldn't and I'm not a teacher. Time to do that is at negotiations.

Don't give them a choice. I am a civil servant without a contract for 3 years. And the last one had 2 years of zeroes. These teachers should be told at the next contract talks that the time has come for a pay freeze and health care contributions. If they don't like it they can quit.

Now tell them how the facts of your situation are different from the teachers.

LEts assume we go with your scenario. The teachers are offered a pay freeze and an increase of health care contributions (and it would be much more than the 10-15 bucks someone posted it would be). Well of course the teachers are not going to sign that contract. So what happens then (thats where you left out the facts and how your situation in NYC is completely different). Well the teachers will go to arbitration. Oh guess how arbitration is then decided - they look at the surrounding districts. Well since no surrounding districts require teacher contributions -we wont get it either. And then guess what they get their raise again based on surrounding district averages.

So we can talk tough about giving them no raises but guess what we can't win that fight - and you knew it but you only posted half the facts.

But if you want to talk about how the PBA screwed up their fight thats another story.

06-14-2005, 09:07 PM
In N.Y.State district offering of kindergarten is permissive, However
"A person over 5 & under 21 is entitled to attend public school maintained in the district to which such person resides" You & the district can talk all the crap you want . Get Your Facts Straight Stop Trying to scare people and give your daughter a raise. There is NO WAY PAT-MED will eliminate KINDERGARTEN.....Once again .........JERK

06-14-2005, 11:34 PM
The law is the law. And the fact is even half-day kindegarten is a shame and not best for our children. All this complaining, but none of you spoke up during the initial budget process. I know because I was actually there and none of these concerns were raised. You're nobody's hero coming in after all the work has been done pointing fingers and criticizing. Next year, want whats best for kids in FEbruary when the original budget is being prepared not when people are "prepared" to vote for it.

06-16-2005, 12:36 PM
thats because none of these knuckleheads were at any of the budget workshops.....or any of the board meetings....they just like to thunp their chest and act like they know what their talking about.

06-16-2005, 03:21 PM
AMEN! Last night was a disgrace. All these teachers, and members of the community who have all these concerns but none of them even cared to be a part of this process which had monthly meetings all through the end of March to May. Nobody ever gives a shit until it affects all their kids. If all the people who voted for the budget really did it would have been a lot more than 1500 votes. Those teachers have a lot of f'n nerve. Half of this increase is to pay for their damn benefits and high salaries.

longylander
06-17-2005, 10:04 AM
Control the budget - stand up to the teachers union
Enough said.

06-17-2005, 10:11 AM
Control the budget - stand up to the teachers union
Enough said.


Heres another useless idea - how do you propose they stand up to the teachers union

06-17-2005, 10:23 AM
Stand up to the teachers union by supporting the board during negotiations. Newsday is busy getting us all stirred up about teachers pay now but wait and see where they are during contract negotiations.

TapeGate
06-17-2005, 02:28 PM
Its just an observation, it doesn't appear that the Board and the teacher's union leadership don't seem to care for each other too much. I too am interested in what this will turn out like. For the children, I hope it isn't messy. But for the district, I hope they make some changes.

NoMOre$$$$$$
06-17-2005, 09:43 PM
I have had enough. Teachers get paid too much and work part-time. My son's special ed teacher is never in. Some type of "condition" I'm told, whatever that is. He has regents to take next week and this prima donna can't be bothered coming in. They want more money for this..................... In the private sector she would be gone I AM VOTING NO NO NO!!!!!!!!!!

June 22
06-17-2005, 09:48 PM
To the prior poster. You no doubt have issues with the district. Real issues. BUT if this thing goes down nobody but the kids of this district will be screwed. NOBODY should want that.

06-17-2005, 10:53 PM
June 22 is absolutely right. My children have had one or two teachers I didn't care for but a majority of them care about children and I think do a wonderful job. How long a teacher works is not an issue to lodge against Pat-Med...teachers everywhere work the same amount and are off for the summer - so go to the federal government w/ that complaint don't deprive my kids an opportunity to be educated. And frankly whatever your concerns are with this teacher No More $$$$ you still will be paying her salary if the budget passes or not.

vote yes yes yes
06-17-2005, 11:29 PM
the problem with teachers is universal. It's called TENURE. not the money, they SHOULD get paid a lot of dough. Hello, it's an important job to educate our kids? It's the fact that they get LAZY because their JOB is GUARANTEED whether they perform or not. Where else can you find a job like that (NO SCPD or Town of Brookhaven jokes PLEASE). I'd pay them all 300,000 if they were scared every day that they gotta work or they will lose their jobs. Anyone wanna argue?

06-18-2005, 01:05 AM
Yea, I'll argue. A teacher should NOT have to be scared of having a job or not. That was what tenure was about. Tenure should be renewable and performance based. That would be a start. They have actually begun to address this by making certification renewable every 5 years. Are you aware of the CURRENT REQUIREMENTS to be a teacher? It's more than probably many would ever be required to do. Check out the Ed Dept website and SEE what a new teacher must do to get into a classroom. Do you think ANYONE should be scared of if they are going to keep their job or not? It kills morale, productivity, and enthusiasm to do your best. Is that the kind of classroom you want your kid in? NOT me!

06-18-2005, 10:57 AM
I do not believe in tenure, especially with the laws/procedures now in place to remove a teacher for inappropriate or illegal behavior. I believe teachers and administrators should be diligently reviewed and necessary documentation filed when the person has legitimately not done their job. Most workers in private industry do not have the protection of a union and worry each day about whether they still have their job. Yet, they are productive and enthusiastic and give their all to the company at which they are employed and take pride in their work. Renewable contracts and certifications are a must, not tenure.

Teachers are, without a doubt, a very powerful influence on the success of our children. Parents should be included in that also. Parental involvement is extremely important. There may be a handful of teachers who become lazy and take advantage of the system and those are the ones who should be eliminated, not the ones who truly care about our children. Long Island teachers get paid a lot of money in comparison to those in NYC and other states, but Long Island parents expect a lot more from their schools over and above the good old ABC's. We are very competitive for scholarships and good colleges and expect that our children are offered only the best programs available. There's nothing wrong with that, but it comes at a cost.

What we should be looking at is where the school district wastes money. We all know there is a lot of money wasted. People tend to attack the salaries of teachers, but that is not the only option to address. Look at the operations of the district -is it being run efficiently and cost effective? Is there a lot of waste in technology purchases, administrative costs, legal fees, etc., etc. It's not just in the salaries. Budgets are out of control everywhere. Patchogue's highly paid superintendent threatens to remove important programs- how about reducing his salary and that of the consultants that were brought in as a result of the witch hunt (just the business office consultants are costing us $5,000 a WEEK plus paying Maran's salary for being reassigned to his home!) What are the legal fees for ALL the litigation now pending before the district? We don't need a PR firm--what do they do anyway? Have you seen any good PR from them? Check out Newsday's education page where various school districts are highlighted for their accomplishments--how many times have you seen Patchogue's name in there? Any newspaper for that matter. We have 11 schools-we don't even highlight our own children on the web page! We don't even have current information on the web page and yet we pay a PR firm-for what?

In my opinion, it's not just the teachers' salaries alone that have put us where we are today. Dig deeper and find where money could be cut - not in important programs for our children -- kindergarten, clubs.

nononotagain
06-19-2005, 11:18 AM
Change will happen during negotiations. But think before you open your mouth Would you be willing to or have you done the following..... Did you give back anything while you were working "within a contract?" Do you work a day free because your employer was going through a rough time? Do you turn down overtime if it is offered to you? Would you give up salary to keep jobs? If you are a civil servant do you work a week for nothing because of government deficits? If you do. let me call the vatican because you should qualify for sainthood!! In my district, the teachers have given back they have not spoken about it publicly but maybe they should. People are quick enough to point fingers at teacher all the time. Maybe they should look in their own background!!

patmedmom
06-19-2005, 06:34 PM
this time around, we'll again vote yes on the budget although under protest. The guest posting earier at 9:27 hit a lot of the high points and we couldn't agree with them more. The amount spent on legal fees is rediculous, what a font of litigation this school board leadership has wrought. The super's salary and perks amount to a me-first mentality, but hey, he's a crafty negotiator and got his contract passed by the school board just before the first budget got voted down. You'd think the line item for the super's salary might be an item to look at trimming in a budget re-think. What rubes do they take us for?
And the web page is a disgrace and a disservice to the District. There is no real useful information there at all. Mostow says a consultant is running the site now; we should terminate that contract and get our money back.

06-21-2005, 01:08 AM
Mr. Miles - Thank you for having the courage and wisdom that you displayed at the board meeting tonight. Public opinion was not in favor of Mr. Mostow, and I'm afraid we were headed for trouble. You certainly represented the best interests of the kids and residents and I am grateful.

Yeah Miles
06-21-2005, 01:40 AM
I am real proud of you! You show strong character and the courage of your convictions! I have only seen you in action a few times but I am very impressed. It is very obvious that you really "get it" You pulled away from Weeks and Mincemeat. You are going to go Miles!!!!Thank you for your motion tonight. You made me very happy. Always be brave, others may not always like you but follow your heart. :D :D :D

pissed off parent
06-21-2005, 01:55 AM
mike miles, you son of a gun! You've got it in you after all and you came through like a champ. It wasn't easy for you as anyone could tell, but you did the right thing and people will stand up for you for that.
I feel for colin, he needs intervention and some tough love. Who can we call in Boston to give him a glowing recommendation so they'll hire him? Boston's a great city...excellent public transportation. No need to have a car.
BOE meetings getting a great turn out. Hope it keeps up. Seeing lots of regulars, some newbies too, involvment is good. People are interested in doing the right thing and it's about the kids. Gotta see this budget pass. It would have been a big plus if you-know-who had phoned in her resignation. I'd listen to a tape of that. art fucillo was right though, people confuse their frustration with the budget with "sending a message" and the lightening rod is TMWeeks.
mike mostow...itinerant superintendant. time to hang up the gunbelt, perhaps. Or, on the other hand, what's just one more lawsuit to this board...just kidding. he had to go, the two faced, conniving liar.

06-22-2005, 01:21 AM
amen :P

Tapeeeee
06-22-2005, 01:26 AM
Simle message: Pass Budget Resign Weeks Mincy Seek Proffesional Help Mostow OUT

smilee
06-22-2005, 01:31 AM
agree 8)

06-22-2005, 10:45 AM
VOTE NO

the board voted to fire the superintendent only a couple months after giving him a five year contract

what the hell is going on

VOTE NO

06-22-2005, 10:46 AM
Now what is this going to cost us????

06-22-2005, 12:49 PM
Well its clear that the last 2 postings were written by the same person (one at 9:15 and one a minute later). The super's contract for 5 years starts July 1. Since its not July 1, it doesn't cost us anything. You can't buyout a contract that hasn't started yet. They are rescinding the 5 year contract, and maintaining his contract as an interim until 6/30 where he can be released at anytime a new superintendent is chosen. Stop causing trouble and get your facts straight and quit threatening to prevent children from getting a good education based on half-truths and lies. You can't just make shit up.

06-22-2005, 01:17 PM
if he was such a good guy they offered him a 5 year contract what changed in the last 3 months that they are pulling his contract.

If he is so bad why offer him a 5 year deal to start with?

EileenS=PissedOffParent
06-22-2005, 01:41 PM
This just in...Eilen "Sheets" (sp) is pissed off parent.
Have the courage to say things to people's face since you know everything. Or muster the courage to run for the Board and lets see what you can do. You think you know everything? I don't think you know a damn thing.

pissed off parent
06-22-2005, 02:11 PM
while ther may be many pissed off parents, and eileen may be one of them, I am certainly not her
so, go ahead make another silly guess
as if it would make any difference

I say what I mean
and I mean what I say

GUESSER
06-22-2005, 03:23 PM
My guess is that its PIGGY BIGGS. Isn't she Christie Jo's sister inlaw? She supports Tina and fezlousis. Arrogant Biggs. Know it all, trashes all but dosen't get up to speak. Another sneak. WhaT a incestuous crew. Fezzys husband works for sneay weeky.Sorry I voted for her hubby, won't make that mistake again.

pissed off parent
06-22-2005, 03:36 PM
oooohhhh!!!!! what a good guess...

but no cigar

would she be a pissed off parent too?

Vote yes on today's budget balloting, we'll clean up the Board of Ed later

see you at Saxton School tonight

I'll be the one wearing clothes

06-22-2005, 03:50 PM
vote no

clean up the school board and vote yes next year!

06-22-2005, 04:14 PM
just so people know; in MANY districts teachers contribute to their health insurance. I now pay 15% AND WE TOOK A 1 YEAR SALARY FREEZE AND WE TOOOK A LAG PAYROLL AND LOANED THE DISTRICT 1 WEEK SALARY TO BE PAID BACK WHEN WE RETIRE OR LEAVE. WE HAD A ZERO INCREASE (INCLUDING NO STEP) ONE YEAR. Ofcourse, no one ever notes these facts or god forbid, publishes them in suffolk life or newsday.

06-22-2005, 07:17 PM
In N.Y.State district offering of kindergarten is permissive,


It's definitely PERMITTED. Whether or not it is PERMISSIVE is debateable.

06-22-2005, 07:24 PM
In N.Y.State district offering of kindergarten is permissive, However
"A person over 5 & under 21 is entitled to attend public school maintained in the district to which such person resides" You & the district can talk all the crap you want . Get Your Facts Straight Stop Trying to scare people and give your daughter a raise. There is NO WAY PAT-MED will eliminate KINDERGARTEN.....Once again .........JERK
Who ever you are you prove the saying, a little bit of knowledge is dangerous. Kindergarten is not required in NYS. You may start schooling at the age of six. Only special educ is guaranteed 5-21(school age) 3-5 preschool 1-3 courts. While unlikely, it is possible to eliminate kdg. Lose the attitude, you're not smart enough to hold it.

06-23-2005, 08:57 AM
We need to get this district cleaned up before the people in the community will vote Yes to any Budget. There have been way to many problems with the school board this year.

Law suits
Secret tapes
5 year contract opps no wait we changed our minds
drugs charges against school boards members

What the hell is going on? Then you really think people are going to vote Yes. Clean up the Mess before you ask for us to vote YES!

06-23-2005, 10:43 AM
does anyone know the vote count from last nights vote?

Was is close or a blowout?

vote reporter
06-23-2005, 11:05 AM
Patchogue-Medford

A revised budget of $130,104,504 calling for a spending increase of 5.5 percent and a tax rate increase of 9.4 percent failed by a vote of 3,433 to 2,522. The district will make $2.6 million in additional cuts to meet the contingency budget of $127,502,243 that will increase spending and the tax rate by 5.2 percent. Kindergarten could be eliminated.

06-23-2005, 11:05 AM
The budget went down by over 1000 votes.

Mr. Mostow, Mrs. Felouzis & Mrs. Weeks. I know you look at this site. You are the reasons that these votes were against the budget. My children will now suffer because of you. People weren't necessarily voting down the budget, they were voting against you. They are sick of the devious ways you are running this school district. They were voicing this by voting down the budget. I know this by speaking to many people outside of the polling place at S. Ocean. They are fed up with you. They are not confident that you will do the right thing with funds that they would be paying for out of their pockets.

You have hurt the educational capabilities of this school district.

You are not there for my children. You are proving this over and over again by your votes at meetings, by your arrogant approach to any and all at the podium and your insistance on not taking any advice from the public.
You had to have that special Tuesday eve budget meeting a couple of weeks ago. The flyer I received the next day in the mail told me that the meeting was another waste. Another smokescreen. Your minds were already made up.

Mr. Mostow. You are not there for my children. You have raped other school districts and you apparently are planning on doing the same here. I just hope we can legally get you the hell out before you do any further damage.

Mrs. Felouzis. you are a fool who cannot handle herself at meetings. You look for the advice from crooks like Mostow. Didn't you look into his past. You can't change people. What were you thinking?

Mrs. Weeks. I won't waste another minute punching our my disgust for you.

People, there is light at the end of the tunnel....
Weeks will be gone soon.
Mostow eill be gone soon.
Felouzis will be gone after another year of being able to beat on her at meetings.

It's so unfortunate that you "3 amigos" don't see how you have hurt this school district..

Says it all
06-23-2005, 11:39 AM
This post should end here because Amen, the prior post says it ALL

06-23-2005, 01:30 PM
The school board is the reason the budget failed!

06-23-2005, 01:40 PM
We need to get this district cleaned up before the people in the community will vote Yes to any Budget. There have been way to many problems with the school board this year.

Law suits
Secret tapes
5 year contract opps no wait we changed our minds
drugs charges against school boards members

What the hell is going on? Then you really think people are going to vote Yes. Clean up the Mess before you ask for us to vote YES!

AMEN

06-23-2005, 01:41 PM
The budget went down by over 1000 votes.

Mr. Mostow, Mrs. Felouzis & Mrs. Weeks. I know you look at this site. You are the reasons that these votes were against the budget. My children will now suffer because of you. People weren't necessarily voting down the budget, they were voting against you. They are sick of the devious ways you are running this school district. They were voicing this by voting down the budget. I know this by speaking to many people outside of the polling place at S. Ocean. They are fed up with you. They are not confident that you will do the right thing with funds that they would be paying for out of their pockets.

You have hurt the educational capabilities of this school district.

You are not there for my children. You are proving this over and over again by your votes at meetings, by your arrogant approach to any and all at the podium and your insistance on not taking any advice from the public.
You had to have that special Tuesday eve budget meeting a couple of weeks ago. The flyer I received the next day in the mail told me that the meeting was another waste. Another smokescreen. Your minds were already made up.

Mr. Mostow. You are not there for my children. You have raped other school districts and you apparently are planning on doing the same here. I just hope we can legally get you the hell out before you do any further damage.

Mrs. Felouzis. you are a fool who cannot handle herself at meetings. You look for the advice from crooks like Mostow. Didn't you look into his past. You can't change people. What were you thinking?

Mrs. Weeks. I won't waste another minute punching our my disgust for you.

People, there is light at the end of the tunnel....
Weeks will be gone soon.
Mostow eill be gone soon.
Felouzis will be gone after another year of being able to beat on her at meetings.

It's so unfortunate that you "3 amigos" don't see how you have hurt this school district..

I could not agree more

Mincemeat
06-23-2005, 03:15 PM
Sad but how true. Add Colin to the mix and Piggy's husband manny> What a mixed bag of nuts. only they cost too much.

Dems' The Breaks
06-24-2005, 11:45 AM
While I agree that the budget issue should have been voted on by it's own merits or lack of them it is now painfully obvious that the "gang that couldn't shoot straight" is causing a large part of the no votes.

Between arrests, accusations, lawsuits and the like the taxpayer residents of this district are watching this BOE self destruct. They have lost trust in them. They don't believe with all these distractions that the BOE can run this multi-million dollar district.

It's kind of funny, but Joe L., who looks the least like a stereotypical BOE member has emerged as the most mature and clear sighted voice of reason. Don't forget he voted not to suspend Capone (just like Tina Weeks), but unlike Ms. Weeks he accepted the MAJORITY vote.

If the other BOE members really care about the kids and the district than they should resign so PM can begin to get out of this muddy quagmire and move forward.

06-24-2005, 01:18 PM
:lol:

06-24-2005, 02:26 PM
Mr. Miles is good too. Hopefully, Mr. Brady will stick around.

Dems' the Breaks
06-24-2005, 03:19 PM
If Brady leaves the board it will be for medical reasons not because of how he has handled himself.

He has done a good job for the taxpayers and the district. I wish him well.

TapeGate
06-24-2005, 05:43 PM
At the risk of getting shot, Kaiser and Minci are my favorite Board members. They're not ass kissers. As far as the charges, like the court system was setup to do I'll withold judgement until he's proven guilty.

06-24-2005, 09:57 PM
Agreed on Kaiser, he blew the wistle on tapegate, but Mincy!!! PUHLEASE, he must GROW UP and STOP PARTYING TILL 3AM before anyone will take him serious and he gets a position of authority ever again. LOOK at his face in the ADVANCE!!! He looks like a druggie arrested at some late night club. He has a loooooooong way to go.

06-24-2005, 10:45 PM
Its a mugshot picture you moron its not a glamour shot! He doesn't look like a druggie he looks like a deer in headlights because he was just put in handcuffs and arrested.

06-24-2005, 11:02 PM
Arrested because he was A DRUNK deer on DRUGS!

06-24-2005, 11:56 PM
Whoever said kaiser is not an ass kisser is nuts...This man is one of the many reasons this district is in the sewer. Not an ass kisser?
Look at his teacher contract vote record......then when the going gets tough he doesn't run again.hmmmmm wonder why??? Maybe he's afriad of what was said on those tapes.....while everyone else on the board is talking about the re_vote in the advance and whether the tapes are legal ..all kaiser has to say is I WANT THE TAPES. Of course you do. so you can burn them.. DID YOU OPEN YOUR ARROGANT ASS KISSING MOUTH ONE TO MANY TIMES KAISER???? .............I say PLAY THE TAPES........Let's hear what the board members are really concerned about behind closed doors....

Tapeeeee
06-25-2005, 12:05 AM
How do you know whats on those tapes...Oh you must have been at the Weeks boatyard with Mostow listening :oops:

ladyballs
06-25-2005, 12:17 AM
Mincy is giving quotes about a pending criminal case in the paper. I love it. He blames his arrests and traffic problems on Brian Brady of all people. He was in an accident the last time he was arrested by the Suffolk County Police. This time he was driving his friends car by the Suffolk County Police. He was arrested in the Village because he was driving in the Village and drinking at the Dublin' Deck. Therefore, the Village could have had nothing to do with his arrest. The Suffolk Police must have known he was driving his friend's car to pull him over if they were targeting him. And Mincy admits the coke wasn't planted by saying it was his friends.

Let me see. He says he borrowed his friends car to retrieve something. Why would you borrow a friend's car to retrieve something without taking the friend with you? Perhaps it is because if you are going to pick up drugs, the dealer doesn't want you bringing anyone. So the friend loans you the car to pick up a "package" to share. Long night waiting for Colin by the friend.

What's the friend's name, and when are his charges pending? Why didn't you ask any follow up questions Sarah Hartman? Why didn't you ask him how Brian Brady could direct the Suffolk County Police, or how they could possibly have known he was driving his friend's car? Or how he could have been set up to be in an accident a couple of weeks ago? Why was his license suspended and why doesn't he show up for his court dates?

He looks like a fool in the story, but he should have come across even worse if the right questions were asked.

The D.A. won't make those mistakes.

Barnacle balls
06-25-2005, 12:59 AM
Who was that bottom scraper sticking up for Tina MaWeeks at the board meeting? There's only about three people left in the Village defending Tina MaWeeks. One is facing criminal charges and the other two are husband and wife. Tick tock.

Barnacle
06-25-2005, 09:38 AM
Piggy's hubbie is a barnacle and bottom scraper and a painter. He covers up the Weeky's dirty spots...

06-25-2005, 06:11 PM
Piggy's hubbie is a barnacle and bottom scraper and a painter. He covers up the Weeky's dirty spots...

This is a big part of the problem. Grow Up stop the name calling and lets clean up this mess.

Name calling is not productive!

The Watcher 2
06-25-2005, 06:14 PM
Not Productive..True....The Watcher 2 will be at EVERY Boe meeting listening to Millionaire Mostow, Snortin Ass, and Tina Taper.
The 3 reasons the budget FAILED. The 3 Flunkies RESIGN NOW
DISGRACE!!!!!!!

06-26-2005, 07:52 PM
Hi Watcher 2 you courageous ASSet to our community. While I've missed a couple I will be at the BOE meetings too. I sure would appreciate it since its for the good of the community for you to stand up and identify yourself as "WAtcher 2 from lipolitics.com"
And I'd like you to call "Millionaire Mostow, Snortin Ass, and Tina Taper" that to their faces since you know so much and have so much to say.

Oh what's that I hear? You only have the balls to anonymously defame people on a website you won't say it to their faces? Oh okay. That's what I thought.

And by the way you moron..."flunkies" isn't (or as you'd probably say "ain't") a word. Be sure to bring a dictionary to the mtg with you. When you're finished reading perhapd I can beat you with it.

guest55
06-26-2005, 08:33 PM
It is a total embarrassment that the Patchogue-Medford residents are the laughing stock of Long Island.

First you have a school board that is a total mess. Taping of executive sessions, recent arrest of a member for DWI and drug possession, modification of a contract by the president of the board after the board approved the superintendent's contract (the modification was to give the superintendent a better car and more gas allowance!!!). Signing a contract for 5 years with an outsider who does not know the people of the area. The President and Vice president should resign from this board, for the betterment of the community; they both are to blame for this mess. They created the cause for the infighting amongst the board members at almost all meetings.

Mr. Mostow thinks that the people in the district are a bunch of dumb HICKS. Unfortunately for him we are not and understand that as long as he is around there will never be a budget approval. His idle threats, his lack of compassion for the student's needs and his lack of respect for residents and employees of the district are what irk most of the residents of this middle class community.

Also rumor has it that Mostow was given the job for payback for Mr "Fa'Loser" who secretly runs the school board thru his wife.

Mostow is a do nothing, he comes into your community accomplishes nothing, takes your money and leaves a path of destruction, all for the betterment of his pocket and to the detriment of the students and residents of the communities were he has worked before.

Mr. Mostow, please retire and go quietly away from Long Island, and New York, because you have left a path of destruction that has not been seen since Hurricane Gloria.

sign me

A Concerned Pat-Med Parent

Another concerned parent
06-26-2005, 09:09 PM
Great post but don't hold your breath. If Tina will not resign after what she did, and Collin won't resign after what he did, Mostow is going to try to hang on for dear life. The arrogance of this crew knows no bounds.

long Time resident patch
06-26-2005, 10:07 PM
The two previous posters are my hero's. This situation is a scourge on our community. Thanks to the Fab Four-fezloser, Tina, Mincy and Mostow. Now our propery values will really go down.

too concerned
06-26-2005, 11:26 PM
path of destruction? heard that somewhere before...

guest55
06-26-2005, 11:47 PM
The bottom line is that this board must completly resign, we need to start over.
If everyone in the community agrees with this, we should start a petition within the next few days and present this to the State Dept of Education and the Att General of NY for investigation. A referendum must be put on the slate to elect a new B of Ed.
Rules have been broken and admitted by some, they should do the honorable thing and face the music for their personal actions.
These actions were for personal reasons and all for the wrong reasons, not for the students benefit.

WE NEED TO TAKE THIS TO THE NEXT LEVEL AND INSIST THAT THIS SCHOOL BOARD CONTINUE PUBLIC MEETINGS AND TO KEEP THE COMMUNITY ACTIVE IN THIS PROCESS. THE BOTTOM LINE SHOULD BE THE KIDS, NOT SOME BOARD MEMBERS IMAGINARY POWER TRIP

06-27-2005, 12:18 AM
Hi guest 55 just do me a favor and don't represent me on that petition. What rules have been broken that people admitted to? You write...

Rules have been broken and admitted by some, they should do the honorable thing and face the music for their personal actions.
These actions were for personal reasons and all for the wrong reasons, not for the students benefit.

What specifically are you talking about?

And where did you get the idea that the Board wasn't having public meetings anymore lol? What did you fall asleep and wake up in the middle of a dream. Come back to our planet when you can and answer these questions.

06-27-2005, 12:21 AM
hes on drugs again don't listen to him, probly a flashback from the ludes and acid he did in college.....OOOOOPPPPPSSSS he still is in college

GUEST55
06-27-2005, 12:55 AM
WHAT I MENT WAS THE FOLLOWING:

TINA'S TAPING OF THE EXECUTIVE MEETINGS AND JEPORDIZING THE CASE AGAINST THE DISTRICT, WHICH CAN POTENTIALLY COST THE DISTRICT $50 MIL!! (WHICH WE DONT HAVE)

COLINS DWI ARREST, AND ADMITTING IT IN THE PAPERS, AND THEN SAYING THAT HE WILL STAY ON THE BOARD UNTIL HE STARTS HIS JOB IN BOSTON. ( HIS PROBELM PROBABLY GOT HIM FIRED FROM HIS PREVIOUS JOB AT RIVERHEAD HOSPITAL, FAILED DRUG TEST!!)

THE LATEST, OF A RELATIONSHIP WITH FA'LOSER'S HUSBAND AND MOSTOW AND HOW MOSTOW SAVED THE PRES' DAUGHTER'S ASS BY FLYING UP TO ALBANY SO THE SHE CAN KEEP HER TEACHING CERTIFICATION, WHICH ALSO CAUSED A KINDERGARDEN AID, WHO WORKED FOR THIS TEACHER, TO GET TRANSFERED OUT FASTER THAN YOU CAN SAY YOUR NAME, AND RECORDS DOCTORED AND COVERED UP TO PROTECT THIS TEACHERS JOB. FROM WHAT I ALSO FOUND OUT IS THAT THIS TEACHER IS NOT WORTH SAVING!! AND THE KINDERGARDEN LAYOFF'S STOPPED JUST BEFOR HER NAME.

WHAT ELSE DO YOU WANT TO KNOW? IT'S ALL OUT THERE FOR YOU TO RESEARCH, UNLESS YOU HAVE YOUR HEAD ALL FOGGED UP OR UP SOMEBODIE'S ASS.















Hi guest 55 just do me a favor and don't represent me on that petition. What rules have been broken that people admitted to? You write...

Rules have been broken and admitted by some, they should do the honorable thing and face the music for their personal actions.
These actions were for personal reasons and all for the wrong reasons, not for the students benefit.

What specifically are you talking about?

And where did you get the idea that the Board wasn't having public meetings anymore lol? What did you fall asleep and wake up in the middle of a dream. Come back to our planet when you can and answer these questions.

06-27-2005, 01:11 AM
he didn't get fired from Riverhead hospital. Your research is as bad as your spelling.

GUEST55
06-27-2005, 01:16 AM
SORRY, HE WAS DISMISSED

06-27-2005, 01:42 AM
nope wasn't dismissed either. wrong again. left for another position.

06-27-2005, 02:20 AM
YOUR DISTRICT IS HOPELESS.......CONTINGENCEY FOREVER!!!!!!!!!!

TO GUEST 55
06-27-2005, 08:29 AM
DON'T WORRY 55 THESE PEOPLE ARE JUST PLAIN STUPID. YOU SOUND LIKE YOU HAVE THE FACTS CORRECT. LIKE ME YOU DO YOUR HOMEWORK BEFORE OPENING YOUR MOUTH OR TYPING AWAY. I AM WITH YOU . THE FAB 4 SHOULD ALL GO AND BE REPLACED BY SOME OTHERS THAT CARE ABOUT THE SCHOOL DISTRICT AND HOW THEIR ACTIONS MIGHT AFFECT OTHERS. NO COVERUPS NO ACTS OF TREASON. THEY WANT TO BELIEVE THEIR KIDS OR COUSINS OR WIVES ETC ARE SUCH GOOD LITTLE DOOBIES. EVERYONE MAKES MISTAKES BUT NOT OF THESE MAGNATUDES THAT AFFECT THE CHILDREN OF THIS COMMUNITY THAT IS AS TARNISHED AS ROSLYN. GET USED TO PEOPLE BEATING YOU UP. BUT TRUST ME THERE ARE MANY THAT DON'T GO TO THIS SITE THAT AGREE WITH US.

06-27-2005, 12:56 PM
uh huh

guest55
06-27-2005, 04:21 PM
I heard that the class of '05 boo'ed Mostow and the Crickets came out for Peggy Fa'loser

Great send off by the class of '05 they both deserved it

ziggy
06-27-2005, 10:18 PM
no sign of mincy at the graduation either.
what a pitiful Board of Ed. Supposedly role models for our kids. No self-respect, how do they expect community respect?
what a polarized community!
what contention!

emergency meeting!
06-28-2005, 02:50 PM
7:30 tonight South Ocean Middle School
Board Members called for meeting, Mostow refuses to acknowledge.
four members will be there to conduct legally convened sessions
come see democracy in action

06-28-2005, 05:45 PM
This district is the laughing stock of Long Island...

06-28-2005, 06:06 PM
Who ever gave you the idea that this is a legal meeting is incorrect. You know full well its not. And any decisions you make will be reversed anyhow.

ziggy
06-28-2005, 06:22 PM
well, peggy, there happens to be state education law which governs the legality of school board meetings. You might want to read it over and get your fat ass over there.

ziggy too
06-28-2005, 06:31 PM
and if it's illegal, there would be no decisions that need reversing,
would there? Get your illogic straight, would you

06-28-2005, 08:08 PM
what does "illogic" mean?

guest55
06-28-2005, 11:22 PM
Who the F@%K is Mostow locking us out of the building for this meeting tonight. We pay the tax's and he dictates how it is used. It is a public meeting and it should have been done within a safe and secure facility paid for by the community, not controlled by an outsider, who is a low life dumb-ass who should be fired!!!

The Fab-4 (Fa'Loser, Mincy, Weeks and Mustow) were missing, typical response by a bunch of cry babies who don't like what they hear.

Weeks your out, I hope your husband's family takes you out on that last boat ride, with Fa'loser in tow, Mincy providing all the juice, and Mostow blowing all the hot air...!!!

It's time for this communuity to come together against the Fab4 or should I call them the FlAB-4. Everybody should show up to the June 30th 8am meeting and show unity and a sign of strength in numbers to get rid of them. Sign as many petions as you can get your hands on, mail letters to Albany, call Spitzer, call the National Guard if we have to. Lets get rid of this scum that tainted this community. We do not deserve to be treated as second class citizens and be taken advantage of by this outsider who has caused more trouble than any natural event on Long Island has seen.

guest55
06-30-2005, 11:30 AM
Looks like The Fa'Loser ran her Kangaroo court today. No public speaking. Very arrogant to the public and certain members of the board. Joe did his best, but looks like at Friday's meeting, the Fa'Loser will vote to reinstate the LArd-ASSES" contract, with the New Purchased School Board members (and The Fa'Loser will probably vote for the Drugie in his absence!!!)

We will need even more people there to again show them that we will not be forced to EAT-SHIT, and let this LARD-ASS and the new members of the board know we mean business and that we will SPIT THRE SHIT back to them.

Too bad no TV or newspaers were there today.

06-30-2005, 12:26 PM
DON'T WORRY THEY WILL BE THERE AND SO WILL AL OF US.

06-30-2005, 12:53 PM
The thing is that what you are saying is all that tenure ensures to teachers. Teachers are diligently reviewed each school year and if they are not then the administrators need to be looked at. If there is a concern with a teacher it is the duty of an administrator to begin the paper trail. I do not believe in tenure, especially with the laws/procedures now in place to remove a teacher for inappropriate or illegal behavior. I believe teachers and administrators should be diligently reviewed and necessary documentation filed when the person has legitimately not done their job. Most workers in private industry do not have the protection of a union and worry each day about whether they still have their job. Yet, they are productive and enthusiastic and give their all to the company at which they are employed and take pride in their work. Renewable contracts and certifications are a must, not tenure.

Teachers are, without a doubt, a very powerful influence on the success of our children. Parents should be included in that also. Parental involvement is extremely important. There may be a handful of teachers who become lazy and take advantage of the system and those are the ones who should be eliminated, not the ones who truly care about our children. Long Island teachers get paid a lot of money in comparison to those in NYC and other states, but Long Island parents expect a lot more from their schools over and above the good old ABC's. We are very competitive for scholarships and good colleges and expect that our children are offered only the best programs available. There's nothing wrong with that, but it comes at a cost.

What we should be looking at is where the school district wastes money. We all know there is a lot of money wasted. People tend to attack the salaries of teachers, but that is not the only option to address. Look at the operations of the district -is it being run efficiently and cost effective? Is there a lot of waste in technology purchases, administrative costs, legal fees, etc., etc. It's not just in the salaries. Budgets are out of control everywhere. Patchogue's highly paid superintendent threatens to remove important programs- how about reducing his salary and that of the consultants that were brought in as a result of the witch hunt (just the business office consultants are costing us $5,000 a WEEK plus paying Maran's salary for being reassigned to his home!) What are the legal fees for ALL the litigation now pending before the district? We don't need a PR firm--what do they do anyway? Have you seen any good PR from them? Check out Newsday's education page where various school districts are highlighted for their accomplishments--how many times have you seen Patchogue's name in there? Any newspaper for that matter. We have 11 schools-we don't even highlight our own children on the web page! We don't even have current information on the web page and yet we pay a PR firm-for what?

In my opinion, it's not just the teachers' salaries alone that have put us where we are today. Dig deeper and find where money could be cut - not in important programs for our children -- kindergarten, clubs.

Worried 1
06-30-2005, 01:05 PM
I was also there at the meeting today. I am also disgusted at the arrogance that our president is now showing on a constant basis to the public as well as fellow board members. She has proven that she is not there for my children over and over and over again. She made me laugh when she, during her opening statement, said that we need to put all issues aside and concentrate on what's good for the students. I know that this is not verbatum but that was the jist.
What worries me is that tommorrow we are again a minority. Is the board going to be able to undo all that has been done recently? Are they going to be able to reinstate Mostow? Are they going to be able to do away with all resolutions and petitions to oust Weeks? If Lang sides herself with Falouzis we are indeed a minority. If she is actually an "independant", there may be hope. If Lang sides herself with Falouzis and Weeks she'll be in for an entire year of ridicule and public harrassment for herself and her family. What a way to live in such a small community!

06-30-2005, 01:45 PM
I feel like I am at a puppet show. I believe that Mr. Miles has stated that he has heard the community about how disappointed they are with Mr. Mostow and that this is in part why many of these things came to light about why now that his contract is being rescinded and so on. Mr. Miles, Mr. Loschiavo, Mr. Brady and Mr. Kaiser do not have any strings to hold them up. The can think for themselves. Hallelujah! :D I just hope and pray that Ms. Lang has been listening and hears the public as well and will not sucomb to being a marionette puppet. :?

06-30-2005, 02:33 PM
At the most, Peggy and Tina only have 1 year left, I think this community has had enough of their antics. Christie has 3 years left, and she had better prove to be as 'independant' as she claimed to be, otherwise her final 2 years will be hell.

My big question is.... Peggy's daughter is teaching Kinder at Canaan but is uncertified. When they cut elementary teachers, will she be spared?

patmedmom
06-30-2005, 02:59 PM
there's nothing to say Christie Jo's whole three year term might not be hell if she proves out to be part of the gang. She will be proving herself when the Weeks question comes up and if she doesn't see the error of Tina's way, then she's shown her true colors.
Peggy will not win another term, that's evident. People have had more than enough of her snotty attitude and her rude demeanor. Her continued support for Tina and Mostow has put her at odds with the voting taxpayers in the community.

NEWS 12
06-30-2005, 03:58 PM
JULY 1 2005 BE THERE MOSTOW given a shiny new contract for all his Good work ????Iguess the contract is more important than the budget cuts.....9:00 AM South ocean middle school..News 12 has confirmed ...See if Collin is there, Lochivo, Miles, Brady shouldn't even go. They spoke. AND they Spoke LOUD. THANK YOU

guest55
06-30-2005, 04:13 PM
If this new board reinstates Mostow, come September ALL PARENTS should boycott the first several days of the new school year, by not sending our kids to school, that would send a clear message that we are not satisfied with the decision.

Even the State Dept of Education will take notice. We should start a writting campaign to Mr Mills and make this threat a reallity if he does not step in and take action on the students behalf against this New Board and Superintendent.

It's time to start a war

06-30-2005, 05:09 PM
What kind of message would that send to the kids? I think we are all losing sight of what this is really about! KIDS!!! OUR KIDS!! And these kids, especially those in high school, are going to suffer tremendously because of it. And there's nothing any of the board can do about that now. Wake up people! You voted the budget down.........you hurt your own children as well as mine. And the bottom line is, superhero Joe LoSchiavo is not going to come running out in a red cape and save the day!

Pete_Moss
06-30-2005, 05:57 PM
I'm wit ya 55 all the way!
Lets rally the troops!
Lets cater the event...how about mexican!

Jack Mehoff
06-30-2005, 06:03 PM
Peggy's gonna try to shove Mostow down our throat
he's choking the s--t out of us
makes us gag
puke and vomit
poison for our system
Tina a pimple on the ass of our School Board
gonna be squeezed out
our kids suffering for their misdeeds and malfeasance
payback time

06-30-2005, 06:43 PM
Your kids are suffering for your ignorance and vile attitudes and statements. You should be ashamed of yourself! Go back and read what you just wrote!

guest99
06-30-2005, 06:48 PM
since mostow may be shoved down our throat for the next 5 yrs anyway, why doesn't a resident ask him and/or peggy directly about his background during public session. let's get it out in the open where his last few district jobs were and the reason for not being there anymore. ask him directly about roosevelt, etc. and let's see what his answers are. then start on peggy's daughter's certification or lack there of.

Weatherman
06-30-2005, 07:25 PM
Weatherman or the Crazy Chief, one says sun, the other says sleet!

Tina supporter
06-30-2005, 07:57 PM
The kids are suffering because the parents are idiots and not because of the school board.

If the parents did a better job of raising them we would not have these issues.

Mostow's out of luck
06-30-2005, 08:40 PM
I had a spy check on the whereabouts of the missing Mr. Mincy. As someone correctly predicted, he is indeed in Boston as of this afternooon. So it looks like Mostow is a man without a country. The good deeds of today will not only go unpunished but will go untouched!

jack mehoff
06-30-2005, 09:07 PM
ummm...there are such things as jet airplanes and it would not be beneath this motly crew to spring for Mr. Mincy's fare.

Although should he chose to do so, he'll find he has to run the media gauntlet which will be turned out tomorrow and would LOVE a chance to ask him a few questions on camera.

Any bets as to Christy Jo's first vote?

More like Jack Ass
06-30-2005, 09:22 PM
Jack Mehoff - thats very becoming of you to come up w/ something so creative. Its good to know your in this for the right reasons. I don't like some of these asses either...but so far the media attention hasn't influenced anything except give bad press to the district. Maybe underneath our yearning for sensationalism we can address lets see - education...or the contingency budget...or what contingency means for sports and music?

red raider
06-30-2005, 10:12 PM
tJack Mehoff - thats very becoming of you to come up w/ something so creative. Its good to know your in this for the right reasons. I don't like some of these asses either...but so far the media attention hasn't influenced anything except give bad press to the district. Maybe underneath our yearning for sensationalism we can address lets see - education...or the contingency budget...or what contingency means for sports and music?

To Tina Supporter
06-30-2005, 10:17 PM
To Tina Supporter...yes, you are sooooo right, the parents should do a better job raising thier kids...how about arming every single one with a hidden tape recorder And a vile of Coke....you nut!!!!! :oops: :oops: :oops:

jack mehoff
06-30-2005, 10:44 PM
yeah, let's talk about the contingency budget, shall we? Have you heard or seen anything from the District with some hard numbers yet? When does it have to be in place? Will the public have any input this time around when it comes to making cuts? Or will the School Board Furher Peggy Falousis huddle with her hatchetman Mostow and come up with the cuts unilaterally?
You'd think an inflated superintendant's salary would be one of the first line items to be trimmed. And it was Peggy's amending that generous contract with more give-aways which triggered the whole rescining the offer fiasco in the first place.
Great leadership, Peggy!

06-30-2005, 10:51 PM
Outsiders read these posts, and all of your name calling and ignorant remarks, let alone the cursing and foul language are only making our district and our community look like trash. Try speaking intelligently on here, so people don't sit here and shake their heads, looking down on us. Have some pride in your community and try to set a good example for our children. You are quick to criticize everyone else, but when you act like this, it doesn't say much for your character either. We really are where we are because of mismanagement and dishonesty amongst past administrators, not because of this board or Mr. Mostow. We need to move forward so that our children will get the best things possible within the constraints of the budget.

06-30-2005, 11:09 PM
Amen Amen Amen Amen. Well said.

guest55
07-01-2005, 12:05 AM
listen to the latest insult.

Looks like Mostow now has a bodyguard that we are paying $50k/yr for. He is using the New Security director, to watch his back

The Director is a retired cop that was known to one of the Mostow Admin's

we need a real big showing tomorrow

not again1234
07-01-2005, 12:26 AM
Time and Place for tomorrow. I want to make sure that I can be there.

07-01-2005, 12:30 AM
so let me get this straight. tina peggy christie is calling a meeting to reinstate the super? what about them!!!!

07-01-2005, 01:38 AM
9;00 am AM July1 south ocean middle sch. Get there early as I have heard parking will be a Mess

Tina and Pam show
07-01-2005, 06:53 AM
The old Weeks and Barr team has hit a snag. Tina told Pam at yesterday's board meeting that she is never again welcome at the Week's boatyard. That will get her back Tina. Everyone dies to go down there.

TO BARR
07-01-2005, 07:54 AM
I HEAR SOME NEW MULTIFAMILY HOMES ARE OPENING ON RIVER AVENUE....MAYBE BARR CAN LIVE THEIR....

MARCH IS A COMMING!

Tina Supporter
07-01-2005, 09:57 AM
To Tina Supporter...yes, you are sooooo right, the parents should do a better job raising thier kids...how about arming every single one with a hidden tape recorder And a vile of Coke....you nut!!!!! :oops: :oops: :oops:

Oh yeah the parents are so good here. Lets not worry about all the ones arrested there or you seem to forget about the one's threatening the board members - model behavior.

Then there is the behavior at home, the affairs and such - the parents are the disgrace here

07-01-2005, 11:08 AM
Let's give applause to Tina, the model citizen! What planet do you live on? She is wrong, wrong, wrong, guilty, vindictive, ugly and must be removed to save our children!

07-01-2005, 11:26 AM
Let's give applause to Tina, the model citizen! What planet do you live on? She is wrong, wrong, wrong, guilty, vindictive, ugly and must be removed to save our children!

She is only guilty of caring about the kids and trying to do the correct things in balancing their interests, the community and the costs. Thats it - of course you result to personal attacks and if you want to hit her on the affair she had with the PTA mom thats another thing - but based on the facts she did nothing wrong

guset55
07-01-2005, 11:39 AM
If Tina had the children in miind, then why would she jepordize the districts case by providing evidence against the district.

If it was a personnal issue, then she should have used a different forum. As a result of her actions, and others, the focus was diverted from the budget to all the other issues.

The best thing that can happen here, is to get rid of all the LOSERS on the Board and start over. Put together a Community supported budget Committee and peice this mess up and get the community back together. That will be the only way the kids suffering will end.

If we have a divided community things will never get settled.

Already there has been a three fold increase in house sales in the area in the last month alone, what we don't need is a housing disaster to distroy the tax base and have even less money to support our kids.

Like I have posted before we need to protest and try to convince the NY dept of Ed to step in and disolve this mess and it must happen soon before there is no PATCHOGUE left.

07-01-2005, 11:54 AM
If Tina had the children in miind, then why would she jepordize the districts case by providing evidence against the district.

If it was a personnal issue, then she should have used a different forum. As a result of her actions, and others, the focus was diverted from the budget to all the other issues.

The best thing that can happen here, is to get rid of all the LOSERS on the Board and start over. Put together a Community supported budget Committee and peice this mess up and get the community back together. That will be the only way the kids suffering will end.

If we have a divided community things will never get settled.

Already there has been a three fold increase in house sales in the area in the last month alone, what we don't need is a housing disaster to distroy the tax base and have even less money to support our kids.

Like I have posted before we need to protest and try to convince the NY dept of Ed to step in and disolve this mess and it must happen soon before there is no PATCHOGUE left.

Yes there has been an increase in house sales- but you forget the flip side there is also an increase in home purchasers - these houses go quick, go for high oprices whihc increase our tax base

guest55
07-01-2005, 01:17 PM
Yeah, you are going to hear sucking sounds as the home valuations drop as a result of todays meeting.

Who the hell is this board, reversing all the resolutions, then having hthe community pay for Tinas' legal fees. Again this was all for the benifit of Tina, not the children, again the budget was set aside, again the comminity got SCREWED!!!!!!!!!!!!

You are toyally wrong on all counts.

And now they hired the same lawyers Mostow used for his contract talk about BALLS.

We are getting screwed more and more

All of us who have boats at the Weeks marina should take them out, (or sink them on the marina if you want).

This is the start of a war, that will never end. We will have this scar on this community for a long time, that we may never recover from.

This is the end and blame the FAB-FOUR and MOSTOW for it. We will fight to get rid of MOSTOW and have Tina and Fa'Loser pay for it. They like to spend other peoples money, maybe they should start to spend their own.



This is the last straw on the communities back, Fa'Loser screwed everybody including all of our CHILDREN.

07-01-2005, 02:39 PM
Any idea where Mr. Miles was?
I guess Mincy flew in to provide Peggy with the necessary votes. It's hard to believe this creep came from this district recently. What an immature ahole.
Jo Lang proved to be an absolute joke.
Joe's the man.

patmedmom
07-01-2005, 03:03 PM
who voted for christy jo anyway? Anybody I ask voted for the other guy. He should have been up there today. Hope he runs again, there will be three seats open in May, possibly (probably) four. I sit and talk with other patmed moms who are also teachers and we're scared for our kids futures and our jobs. How are they going to come up with the necessary cuts?
Joe LoSchiavo for President!
We salute you, Brian Brady.

07-01-2005, 04:17 PM
who voted for christy jo anyway? Anybody I ask voted for the other guy. He should have been up there today. Hope he runs again, there will be three seats open in May, possibly (probably) four. I sit and talk with other patmed moms who are also teachers and we're scared for our kids futures and our jobs. How are they going to come up with the necessary cuts?
Joe LoSchiavo for President!
We salute you, Brian Brady.

Forget Joe, with his past issues he would never get elelcted.

Tina will get the job done.

guest55
07-01-2005, 04:32 PM
Tina my ass, the only thing you will get out of Tina is lies and bull sh%%t. Both Fa'Loser and Tina are useless excuses for humanity.

Colin has no balls (but plenty of drugs)

And now Lang (or should we start to call her FANG) is just a puppet who does not realize what she got herself into. Pull her strings and she will do what they want.

Shit was thrown to our faces and rubbed in.

The fight is not over just a lot more expensive in terms of dollars and less we have to provide for our children's education

PAT MEd Teacher
07-01-2005, 05:10 PM
Tina my ass, the only thing you will get out of Tina is lies and bull sh%%t. Both Fa'Loser and Tina are useless excuses for humanity.

Colin has no balls (but plenty of drugs)

And now Lang (or should we start to call her FANG) is just a puppet who does not realize what she got herself into. Pull her strings and she will do what they want.

Shit was thrown to our faces and rubbed in.

The fight is not over just a lot more expensive in terms of dollars and less we have to provide for our children's education

Most of your kids are too stupid to learn so just be happy with what you get

07-01-2005, 05:32 PM
To Patmed Teacher - just think of all the money you have been able to put into your retirement account because of the stupid kids you have been charged to teach. Aren't you lucky you didn't have to work hard. what are you driving? a BMW while most of us are scraping to make ends meet. your audacity is disgusting you are lower than Tina Weeks if that is at all possible.

guest55
07-01-2005, 06:41 PM
To pat-med teacher

These stupid kids as you call them, deserve better, so do us a favor and quit, since your not doing the job right anyway.

WANT TO VOMIT
07-01-2005, 08:20 PM
WITH THE EXCEPTION OF BRADY, LOSCHIAVO, AMD MILES THIS SCHOOL BOARD IS OUT OF CONTROL THEY ARE MAKING ME AND THE REST OF THIS COMMUNITY SICK. THEY ARE LIKE A BAD CANCER THAT IS TRYING TO SPREAD. CHRISTY JO LANG- YOU ARE A LITTLE PUPPET FOR LA TINA. MOSTOW GO AWAY. FEZLOSER YOU SNOTTY BITCH. MINCY-WHAT A JOKE. TINA YOU HAVE DISGRACED YOUR FAMILY AND FRIENDS. CORRUPTION GALORE. GUESS WHAT DEARIES? WE ARE NOT GOING AWAY. ENJOY YOUR LITTLE REIGN PEOPLE BECAUSE YOU ARE GOING DOWN LIKE THE POOP THAT YOU ARE. YOU HAVE MADE US LOOK SO BAD. DID YOU SEE CHANNEL 12 NEWS? HOW EMBARRASING FOR US, THANK YOU. HEY MINCY, IS THAT YOUR PASSPORT PHOTO? GO AWAY YOU ARE MAKING ME WANT TO VOMIT!!!!!!!!!

We Know who you are
07-01-2005, 09:52 PM
Hey Guest at 2:47 (MANNY) we got your URL....what issues, Don't be slandering...we'll own your home...ha ha ha

ashamed guest
07-01-2005, 10:04 PM
To pat med teacher, I really hope that you are not a teacher in our district, I am and it disgraces me that you made a comment like that. Our district is in serious truoble. We need people to support the children. If that is truly how you feel then why don't you leave the profession and let a teacher who is on the verge of losing their job take your position. There are plenty of us who enjoy going to work each day and seeing the progress that can be made in the classroom. Shame on you for calling our students stupid.

Not a Teacher
07-01-2005, 10:18 PM
No , That Dumb A#S is not a teacher probably just a devicive F$CK tryin to stir up teacher hate A REAL true Low-Life Do not fall for their tricks

I know who you are...
07-01-2005, 10:18 PM
..you a computer illiterate moron.It is not a URL that'll be traced to a home but an IP address.To trace an IP back to a residence is quite costly and is done only in the act of possible felonies for hidden chickenshits as yourself.

Bigg Trouble
07-01-2005, 10:26 PM
Folks, This place is a powder keg. calm down and stick to the issues.This place IS in trouble. It needs fixing Now!! :cry:

PatMed Teacher
07-01-2005, 10:59 PM
To Patmed Teacher - just think of all the money you have been able to put into your retirement account because of the stupid kids you have been charged to teach. Aren't you lucky you didn't have to work hard. what are you driving? a BMW while most of us are scraping to make ends meet. your audacity is disgusting you are lower than Tina Weeks if that is at all possible.

Actually the money for my retirement account, my Lexus (not a BMW), the summer and winter vacations and the soon to be vacation home come from the pockets of the dumb parents like you.

But the apple doesn't fall far from the tree.

Pat Med teacher
07-01-2005, 11:01 PM
To pat-med teacher

These stupid kids as you call them, deserve better, so do us a favor and quit, since your not doing the job right anyway.

Would never quit as it is an easy job - just kick back and in a few more years it will be an even easier retirement.

But thats why we all laugh at you in the teacher's meetings.

Pat Med Teacher
07-01-2005, 11:03 PM
No , That Dumb A#S is not a teacher probably just a devicive F$CK tryin to stir up teacher hate A REAL true Low-Life Do not fall for their tricks

Sorry I actually am a tenured teacher in the district. So no worries from me. Heck we don;t even care how you vote on the budget because it has no effect on what we get. So be as upset as you want - but the checks keep rolling in for us. Just wait to you see waht we get in accrued sick and vacation at retirement.

guest55
07-01-2005, 11:27 PM
TO DUMB-ASS PAT-MED TEACHER

I can see from your spelling the reason for poor grades by our students

07-01-2005, 11:32 PM
do not sweat it Dumb Ass is not a teacher(just look at spelling) Dumb ASS you be a playin us. Envious Jeolous(sic) scum

Coleman
07-01-2005, 11:38 PM
Pat-Med...........Trailertown USA

red raider
07-02-2005, 12:35 AM
How can peggy and christy jo look at themselves in the mirror unless they know more than the public with regards to tinas secret tape and to think christy jo has a sister who is a teacher in the district there must be some hard feelings in that family

QUEENIES OF THE DAIS
07-02-2005, 01:53 AM
Where was manny the Bottom Feeder/Scraper today? Was he working hard for sneeky Weeky? maybe he is wiring peoples boats to listen to their conversations as hisboss in-law does.

Who was the old woman who spoke first during the public section? Obviously another Piggy friend or Tina supporter. And for that sour old Adele Worthington, another arrogant woman. Lets find out about her job, and what her deal is. Look at the conflicts here people and keep stacking the meetings. these sourpussies have to go!!!!

Our community has become the laughing stock of Long island. I have a friend from Bayport who came to a meeting just to see what I was taling about and she agreed, these ladies that sit up there like little queenies need to go. PEGGY, YOU WILL GET KICKED OFF YOUR LITTLE "THRONE" NEXT ELECTION, TINA YOU TOO. eNJOY THE LIMELIGHT NOW BECAUSE IT WON;T BE FOR LONG. How embarrased will you be when you get slaughtered on election day?
10 months to go. CANT WAIT TILL THEN AND NEITHER CAN THE OTHER CITIZENS OF PAT MED!!!

blogger
07-02-2005, 10:51 AM
can anyone tell me if any part time jobs are opening up in the school....thanks....

anti-druggy
07-02-2005, 11:53 AM
What is this I hear, that Colin has not lived in the district for more than 30 days, does that not remove him from the board?

If that is the case his vote should not have counted

And now at the reorg meeting on Tues. Peggy will probably appoint another drug-induced ASS-HOLE to the board, since this is her perogative.

Noriega
07-02-2005, 12:32 PM
If this is true, can his vote be anulled or voided. What does the law say.
Tue. , What did you hear about Pegggg apointing another drug czar....maybe Noriega.
Don't Give Up !!

GO LARRY
07-05-2005, 01:45 AM
NOW THAT WE HAVE CELELBRATED THE FOURTH OF JULY, BACK TO BUSINESS. TOMORROW ID THE REORG MTG. AT NIGHT. WILL FILL IN MORE INFO

07-05-2005, 08:06 AM
boe meeting 7:30 pm south ocean reorganization

come see fa'loser and company appoint more of mostows cronies

ziggy
07-05-2005, 07:53 PM
I am waiting to see if Colin has the nerve to show up or not after what he did last Friday. It was shameful act aimed directly at this community as payback. He's got nothing to lose at this point so he saying "screw you" to the kids and families of this district. Imagine, having us pay Tina's legal fees for her own stupid illegal act, which have nothing to do with her school board duties other than violating the trust and good faith placed, mistakenly, in her.

Colin knows there's no getting re-elected for him. Hell, he'll be lucky to hold on to what he's got. Unless, of course, as everybody knows he's considering a job in Boston and will have to resign because he no longer lives in the district. What? He doesn't live in the district NOW, you say?

In the meantime, tonight we'll see how Peggy wants to further stick her head where the sun doesn't shine.

Keep up the good work, Christie Jo! You're going to have a nice 3 years of everybody getting along so well. Hope you make the right decisions for our kids and do your homework.

lollapaloza
07-06-2005, 01:32 PM
CHRISTIE IS JUST A SKANKY PUPPET. ACTS JUST LIKE TINA,DO NOTHING STUPID PUPPET-PREDICTABLE AS USUAL-JUST LIKE TINA AND PIGGY. ENJOY YOU SEAT ON THE THRONE DEARIES-THIS COMMUNITY WILL KEEP KICKING YOUR ASSES,THEN RIGHT OUT AT THE NEXT ELECTION. BYE BYE BITCHES, SORRY BUT THATS THE LANGUAGE THAT I HAVE TO RESORT TOO SINCE NOTHING ELSE CAN DESCRIBE YOU. ARROGANT,SELF-SERVING BITCHES. ADD ADELE IN THERE TOO. I PROMISE YOU YOU WILL NEVER BE ELECTED AGAIN AND THE COMMUNITY WILL KEEP COMING. TINA YOU CAN RUN BUT YOU CANT HIDE. KEEP HANGING YOUR HEAD-WE CAN ALL STILL SEE YOUR FACE. TRAITOR TO OUR CHILDREN ALL OF YOU. ADD THAT TO YOUR LIST OF ACCOMPLISHMENTS. AND MINCY??????NICE MUG SHOT-YOU HAVE BALLS TO SHOW YOUR FACE. BYE TO YOU TOO.

07-06-2005, 03:37 PM
I hope you don't talk to your children like that! You are the kind of person that make Patchogue-Medford the laughingstock. People will read this and think we are all trash.......don't speak for those of us that can! Keep your vulgarities to yourself!

PAT MED Teacher
07-06-2005, 03:46 PM
I hope you don't talk to your children like that! You are the kind of person that make Patchogue-Medford the laughingstock. People will read this and think we are all trash.......don't speak for those of us that can! Keep your vulgarities to yourself!

Excellent post


Thats why the teachers laugh at the parents when they complain all the time.

Dante
07-06-2005, 06:17 PM
No athletics, while we pay for Weeks legal fees....what a travesty

patmedmom
07-06-2005, 07:34 PM
This week's Suffolk Life has great story about Colin Mincy's legal troubles. It would seem the lad has some difficulty discerning the rules and regulations governing the proper and legal operation of motor vehicles in this state. Despite being arrested for drunk driving and busted with cocaine on his person, despite his numerous summonses and spending a night in the pokey he feels he has done nothing illegal and has no reason to step down from the Board of Education. He thinks he is a role model and a fine example of a Patchogue-Medford graduate.

WRONG, Mr. Mincy!

You've been listening to Tina and Peggy, those warped individuals with no moral compunction against illegal acts and sneaky deeds. You're going to find yourself all alone and out of a Board of Education position before very long. It's a shame, you had such great potential when you were a student, at the top of your game. The world was your oyster...

Pat Med Teacher
07-06-2005, 07:48 PM
This week's Suffolk Life has great story about Colin Mincy's legal troubles. It would seem the lad has some difficulty discerning the rules and regulations governing the proper and legal operation of motor vehicles in this state. Despite being arrested for drunk driving and busted with cocaine on his person, despite his numerous summonses and spending a night in the pokey he feels he has done nothing illegal and has no reason to step down from the Board of Education. He thinks he is a role model and a fine example of a Patchogue-Medford graduate.

WRONG, Mr. Mincy!

You've been listening to Tina and Peggy, those warped individuals with no moral compunction against illegal acts and sneaky deeds. You're going to find yourself all alone and out of a Board of Education position before very long. It's a shame, you had such great potential when you were a student, at the top of your game. The world was your oyster...


Nothing to worry about Patmed mom most parents here are so oblivious they will re-elect him in a second

red raider
07-06-2005, 10:20 PM
A district rep talked about a study in a district with half day kindergaten,this is the same woman who could not answer the number of administrators this austerity budget would cut. She gave numbers from the defeated budgets but nothing firm other than the number four which people howled about. I appeal to that genius to observe a study of districts without any activities or sports. I am sick and tired of being treated like an idiot. Our day will come

grad1
07-06-2005, 10:51 PM
I believe the woman that you are speaking of is in fact the director for Human Resources, Nancy Hancock.

Fallen Angel 401
07-07-2005, 01:55 AM
You people DISGUST me!! How dare you make any assumptions about anyone in this school district, especially on the board of education. All I see on this thread is a bunch of people throwing vulgarities and insults around. Whay cant you people take all of this negative energy and turn it into positive, why cant you talk about ways to better the district and help your children. wit that said and done i would like to give my own two cents on this little situation.

First of all, as I said you people are disgusting. Most, not all of you say you voted no to the budget to prove a point. Guess what ladies and gentlemen all you did with that "point" is prove you are selfish people who care more about politics than about the children of this community. For those of you who voted yes, thank you. For those of you who say they cant afford it I understand.

Next, How dare you make assumptions like that about Christie Jo Lang. She is doing what she thinks is right now and you never know when she might decide that its in the better interest of the kids to side with Brady and Joe. (sorry really bad with names)

As far as Tina goes I feel that she did what was right in her heart and I commend her for that. Most people will just go with the flow but she had the will to do what she did, not saying I agree with what she did. I think it was wrong but its the fact that you know you have a Board member who will not sway for anyone but herself that is somewhat reassuring.

Peggy, you guys smash on her so much. She does what she has to to keep the meeting going. She gets arrogent SOMETIMES but most of the time she just does what she can.

Joe, I have to say he changes so much when he is up at that table. He is the nicest man you could ever meet. He is really kind and very true to himself and others. When he gets up at that table though he becomes somewhat rude and has to inturrupt everything.

Colin is somewhat like Joe, except instead of getting rude and what not he just does stuff he may regret off the board. He enjoys a good time like everyone else here.

As for the other members, I dont know enough about them to say anything. Please dont threaten me or insult me or anyone else because all you do is show that you are just as poor an example for your kids as those you accuse.

devil on your shoulder
07-07-2005, 02:21 AM
sorry honey we won't leave you alone!! get used to it. Relative friend or what were gonna give you hell. You signed up for this when you decided to join the Tina Peggy club. Their own families won't speak to them. That should tell you something. Talk to someone who is reliable if you want some information like Brady or Joe Changeable at least theyll tell you the truth Christie. We'll root for you if you do the right thing and stand up against the wrongs of your buddies!

Fallen Angel 401
07-07-2005, 02:52 AM
You know why Tina and Peggy's faminly wont stand up for them? Because of people like you who will attack them no matter what they do. I wish not to argue or offend, the purpose of my post was to point out the good and the bad of the board members I know and to point out the poor example the parent are setting today for their children. Just so you know I am not related to any board members or friends with them. I am one who seaks peace happiness and joy in all aspects of my life.

FALL FARTHER
07-07-2005, 07:56 AM
PLEASE, TINA WAS RIGHT? PERHAPS YOU ARE RALPHIES WIFE. CHRISTIE JO? SHE HAS SHOWN WHO IS THE PUPPET MASTER. PEGGY? WHEN HASN'T SHE BEEN ARROGANT? COLIN? NICE CRIMINAL RECORD. BRADY,LOSCHIAVO AND MILES ARE THE ONLY ONES WHO ACT AND SPEAK THEIR MINDS. I WONDERED ABOUT MILES A FEW WEEKS AGO BUT I DO BELIEVE HE IS FOLLOWING HIS HEART AND CONSCIENCE. GOOD JOB GUYS.

PERHAPS A 50 MILLION DOLLAR LAWSUIT DOSEN'T CONCERN YOU. PERHAPS THE FACT THAT SHE VIOLATED ETHICS DOSEN'T EITHER. INSTEAD, SHE COULD HAVE PUBLICALLY STOOD AND SCREAMED ABOUT THE "INJUSTICE" SHE FELT WAS DONEAND THEN RESIGNING TO MAKE HER POINT TO HELP HER "RALPHIE" INSTEAD OF VIOLATING THE PEOPLE SHE WAS ELECTED TO REPRESENT. I STILL WONDER WHAT WAS IN IT FOR HER?

GET REAL 401 -YOU CANT CONVINCE THE RESIDENTS OF THAT. YOU WONT EITHER. PEGGY, TINA AND IT LOOKS LIKE CHRISTIE JO WILL BE VOTED OUT THE NEXT ELECTION. ENJOY THE THRONE LADIES AND MINCY THIS IS A PROMISE THE COMMUNITY WON'T STAND FOR YOUR ETHICS AND POOR DECISIONS AND WILL VOTE YOU OUT. :evil: :cry: :evil: :x :roll: :x :x

07-07-2005, 09:15 AM
Fallen Angel you are so wrong! Joe, Brian and Miles are the only ones trying their best to do what's right for the children. The rest, including the so called district clerk, are the DEVIL and will continue to bring this district to the lowest level it has ever been in. They plot and plan and destroy lives of hardworking, dedicated people and are destroying the educational opportunities for the children. You must not defend these vindictive, ugly, disgusting people. Yes, the community is outraged and rightly so. People are so frustrated, they use vulgarities which is not the right thing to do, but a way they release their frustration. Unfortunately, it is not that easy to remove these destructive individuals from their posts. The people who elected them were not aware of their devious, self-serving agendas and now are paying the price for their path of destruction. The community must stay united and continue to fight the fight FOR THE CHILDREN by striving to remove these egomaniacs who don't have a clue about fiscal responsibility. THEY are stealing money from our children and destroying the reputation of a wonderful school district.

07-07-2005, 10:22 AM
Fallen Angel you are so wrong! Joe, Brian and Miles are the only ones trying their best to do what's right for the children. The rest, including the so called district clerk, are the DEVIL and will continue to bring this district to the lowest level it has ever been in. They plot and plan and destroy lives of hardworking, dedicated people and are destroying the educational opportunities for the children. You must not defend these vindictive, ugly, disgusting people. Yes, the community is outraged and rightly so. People are so frustrated, they use vulgarities which is not the right thing to do, but a way they release their frustration. Unfortunately, it is not that easy to remove these destructive individuals from their posts. The people who elected them were not aware of their devious, self-serving agendas and now are paying the price for their path of destruction. The community must stay united and continue to fight the fight FOR THE CHILDREN by striving to remove these egomaniacs who don't have a clue about fiscal responsibility. THEY are stealing money from our children and destroying the reputation of a wonderful school district.

Joe, Brian and Miles are destroying the board and could care less about the children.

07-07-2005, 10:37 AM
Guest 8:52 am
You must be insane and/or you are a drunk driver in posession of cocaine

insane (in-sane) 1. Of, displaying, or aflicted with insanity : mentally unsound. 2. Typical of, used by, or for the insane. 3. Extremely foolish : Absurd.
syns: insane, batty, crazy, loco, looney, lunatic, mad, maniacal, nuts, screwy, touched, unbalanced

Don't ask me...ask Webster

I'd love to see you with the rest of us at the board meetings. You should have the guts to stand up and speak your mind in a public forum. Tell us how you feel. I do, we do.

07-07-2005, 10:48 AM
Guest 8:52 am
You must be insane and/or you are a drunk driver in posession of cocaine

insane (in-sane) 1. Of, displaying, or aflicted with insanity : mentally unsound. 2. Typical of, used by, or for the insane. 3. Extremely foolish : Absurd.
syns: insane, batty, crazy, loco, looney, lunatic, mad, maniacal, nuts, screwy, touched, unbalanced

Don't ask me...ask Webster

I'd love to see you with the rest of us at the board meetings. You should have the guts to stand up and speak your mind in a public forum. Tell us how you feel. I do, we do.


Another complainer here. As I attend all board meetings and have foiled for a slew of documents I have gotten more facts on their behind the scenes scheming. They are trying to hide their lack of ability and knowledge. wake up and smell the coffee

07-07-2005, 11:56 AM
I'm not a complainer. I can tell right from wrong.
If you have some foiled info that proves wrongdoing by the people you mentioned please share that with us. I'd be very interested. I'd like to see proof that the 3 people mentioned are destroying the board and don't care about the kids. I see quite the opposite.
How can you say that Falouzis and Weeks are upholding the ethical and moral construction of the boe? You're illuding to that opinion when you mention that the others don't care about the kids. How can you say that when the legal fees alone to defend your friend Tina are probably going to add up to the cost to educate 10 kids at BOCES. You're telling me she cares about the kids. NOT! And now you have another puppet in Lang. What a joke. Another "independant" who can't tie her own laces.

guest55
07-07-2005, 01:32 PM
Now I hear that the revised number for legal fees went from $125k to over $400k.

I wonder what that is for?

roses16
07-07-2005, 03:08 PM
[quote="Anonymous"]At the most, Peggy and Tina only have 1 year left, I think this community has had enough of their antics. Christie has 3 years left, and she had better prove to be as 'independant' as she claimed to be, otherwise her final 2 years will be hell.

My big question is.... Peggy's daughter is teaching Kinder at Canaan but is uncertified. When they cut elementary teachers, will she be spared?[/quote

WHY ON EARTH DO WE HAVE UNCERTIFIED "TEACHERS' TEACHING OUR CHILDREN?!?!

07-07-2005, 03:16 PM
[quote=Anonymous]At the most, Peggy and Tina only have 1 year left, I think this community has had enough of their antics. Christie has 3 years left, and she had better prove to be as 'independant' as she claimed to be, otherwise her final 2 years will be hell.

My big question is.... Peggy's daughter is teaching Kinder at Canaan but is uncertified. When they cut elementary teachers, will she be spared?[/quote

WHY ON EARTH DO WE HAVE UNCERTIFIED "TEACHERS' TEACHING OUR CHILDREN?!?!

Because you dont pay enough to get a fully staffed group of certified teachers

PATMEDMOM
07-07-2005, 04:02 PM
Don't be an ass...this daughter of Peggy's is uncertified despite the public claim made by Dr. Regina Cohen that ALL our teachers are certified.
Somebody covering up something?

07-07-2005, 04:20 PM
Don't be an ass...this daughter of Peggy's is uncertified despite the public claim made by Dr. Regina Cohen that ALL our teachers are certified.
Somebody covering up something?

Your the ass if you believe that is true

How little you seem to know

07-07-2005, 05:32 PM
Guest of 2:50
How much do you know?
Is Peggy's daughter certified?
Are we never going to hear from you again because here we go...diversion...spin...diversion...spin...

Let's cut to the chase right now. If you come back with a yes, what is that certification date?

sad pat-med teacher
07-07-2005, 05:54 PM
I don't know about Peggy's daughter being certified or not, but I AM certified and have been teaching for Pat-Med for 7 years and was just excessed because of this budget. I am tenured and so are others that were excessed too. I am so upset and just hope that this situation gets better. I really want my job back....

07-07-2005, 06:05 PM
Guest of 2:50
How much do you know?
Is Peggy's daughter certified?
Are we never going to hear from you again because here we go...diversion...spin...diversion...spin...

Let's cut to the chase right now. If you come back with a yes, what is that certification date?

I never said she was certified - just that she isn't the only one -

this is the perfect example of why the kids do so poorly - the parents can't read

Fallen Angel 401
07-07-2005, 06:56 PM
Ok... I am sorry but it seems the intent of my post wasnt clear. All I wanted to do was say 1) that each member has good and bad qualities. That means Christie Jo, Brian, Rob, Joe , Tina , Peggy, and Colin.
2) I dont believe that what Tina did was right but I do feel that it takes strength to do what she did. And By the way why arent you people isulting Joe? Its public knowledge that he to was caught taping executive session he was made to lay his tape recorder on the table.
3) take notice of your posts. all you people do is focus on the bad things I say and the three key words. Tina, Peggy, and Colin.

Sorry about the misunderstanding.

PATMEDMOM
07-07-2005, 07:00 PM
it's a perfect example of what a block head you are
you miss the point and insult our children
when you are talking about your own

Guesta
07-07-2005, 07:01 PM
Misinformed Angel 401 -
The difference between Joe Lo and Sneeky Weeky is Joe asked for permission before he pressed the record button. Tina never asked before or after. Now why don't you flag your little wings and fly away!!!

07-07-2005, 07:02 PM
you are obviously in the loop 401. come out of the closet. joe, after all the bs went down with your friend tina, had his recorder, in the open, for all to see. not like tina tripp. big difference. don't you think?

ziggy
07-07-2005, 07:02 PM
not only that, but Joe never had any tape in his machine when he took it into the executive session.

07-07-2005, 07:05 PM
I'm sorry that you lost your job. Blame your teachers union for not backing a candidate. They stood on the sidelines, no backbone. They endorsed LoSciavo but not Goldfard. A mistake that could have prevented all of this.

Fallen Angel 401
07-07-2005, 07:09 PM
Again I am going to say I can only give you what I know. I did not intend to insult any one. I just wanted to show that you people bash on people when you could be getting commities together to help the kids. Which is something I am trying to do.

how did I insult the children? :?:

What were you insinuating when you said "come out of the closet"?

_______________________

"Om Mane Padme Hum"

patmedmom
07-07-2005, 08:31 PM
Fallen angel 101 I had to go back and read your post again to fully grok what you were talking about.

You kind of generalize this forum as having voted the budget down, yet I can guarantee you the 500 or so citizens who turned out for the board meeting the other night did not. There is a core audience of about 200 constituants now faithfully attending these meetings to see for themselves what has been carried out by the leadership.

Look at the amount of litigation they have generated. Reckless terminations and recriminations abound. Tina may have been "brave" as you may put it but to objective eyes it may be construed as illegal, ill conceived, and working directly against the interests of this district she was sworn to serve when she gave those tapes to a person suing us for FIFTY MILLION DOLLARS.

To top it off, our leadership rammed through a resolution committing us to paying the legal fees for Tina while she defends the indefensible. Save us the money and the trouble, lady, and step down in the name of good conscience and run again in the Spring. Let the voters vindicate you. Hell, I'll carry nominating petitions myself.

That's not bashing, them's the facts.

I think the poster meant "come out of the closet" was to reveal yourself and your true identity. It's up to you. Most of these people would rather lurk and insult our intelligence from cover of disguise.

There are people on this forum active with the board of ed on both sides of the table; teachers, board members, administrators and staff and ordinary citizens from the community are all united in agreement that we want what's best for our children. But it is quite evident, by any ad hoc anecdotal survey among our school kids that they know our board is in trouble and their educational opportunities are the casualty. Is this what it's come to? They know the difference between right and wrong.

Speaking of which, Mr. Mincy's troubles are indicative of a distinct sociopathic personality: motor vehicle laws don't apply. Driving drunk is a relative thing and coke is a recreational drug - sure he likes to have a good time, but NOT like the rest of us.

Fallen Angel 401
07-07-2005, 10:04 PM
Tell me, would you tell everyone on this board who you are? I will tell you this though, I am in no way related to the board or teachers. I am Just a single citizen who cares about our children

Again I will say I know what Tina did was wrong and I understand that it shouldnt go un punished.

All I wanted to do was show that EVERY person has good intentions within themselves but the just may be expressed in the wrong way

Fallen Angel 401
07-07-2005, 10:15 PM
Thank you patmedmom for posting a kind, informative post. Not telling me to "flap my wings and fly away." You seem to be a kind, well informed person who defends their beliefs, I respect that. Thank you.

FALL FARTHER
07-07-2005, 10:17 PM
OH PLEASE NOW IVE HEARD IT ALL. TINA IS AN EVIL DOER. SHE HAS GUTS ALRIGHT- TO HURT OUR COMMUNITY BUT FOR WHAT? A PIECE OF SOMETHING? SHE SHOULD HAVE THE GUTS TO LOOK US IN THE EYES WHEN WE ADDRESS HER LIKE SHE LOOKS AT RALPHIE. SHE IGNORES THE ENTIRE COMMUNITY FOR ONE MAN? WHY ON EARTH WOULD SHE DO THAT? I WONDER WHAT THE REST OF HER FAMILY THINKS-RUINING A LONG STANDING NAME AND BUSINESS. SHAME ON HER -WE ALL LOST BECAUSE OF HER. HER OWN SELFISHNESS OVER THE KIDS SHE WAS SUPPOSED TO CARE ABOUT. I WANT TO VOMIT!!!

Fallen Angel 4O1
07-07-2005, 10:22 PM
There's nothing wrong with Tina and Ralphie being together. It's a beautiful thing when two people love each other. It was this love that made her do what she did, and I respect her for that. Plus, if he wins, she stands to make alot of money, and why not?

FALL FARTHER
07-07-2005, 10:25 PM
YOU ARE HYSTERICAL. HIT THE NAIL ON THE HEAD!!! :D :D :lol: :lol:

07-08-2005, 12:44 AM
Joe never taped executive session. He said he brought a recorder in, but Peggy told him to put it away and he did. He taped nothing and was ready to show everyone that he had a recorder, not hide it like the thief that Tina is.

longylander
07-08-2005, 12:45 AM
From THE SCHOOL OF HARD KNOCKS !!!!!

Which all of us tax payers belong to especially when we have corrupt school board members and uncertified teachers who happen to be daughters of school board presidents.
All are welcome to the Peggy and Tina show hosted by the Pat-Med School District. Just come to any school board meeting and see the power hungry antics of lunatic minds. We have the Peggy and Tina show with special guest Christie Jo. watch and have her strings pulled by the evil Peggy. Then we have a special feature of Tina sucking the district dry with legal bills when this money should be going for the kids. But wait there is more!!!!! The board member with a new residence at the Yaphank jail..... Jeeez. you can't make this stuff up. This show is sponsered by the law firm of Screwem, Stickem and Billem the conflict of Interests specialists representeing everybody...... stay tuned......

Crazy dog
07-08-2005, 01:54 AM
Well Longylander, you hit the nail on the head. Couldn't have said it better myself. It truly is amazing stuff, isn't it? I have never seen the likes of it in politics before. Oh wait, once before in the vlllage during the last village administration. Lots and lots of arrogance, and wasted energy inits trying to get even with SEK. Even that board had sensitivities to its constituents' wishes and would never ignore a public outcry like the one we are seeing. The Tina Weeks' contingency on the board absolutely doesn't care what the community thinks and refuses to even acknowledge, never mind fulfill the resident's wishes.

07-08-2005, 10:09 AM
what I meant by "come out of the closet" is that by mentioning some of the items you've mentioned you are not just simply an outsider who is speaker her mind and wants a peaceful resolution to world peace, you know things...
It has nothing to do with your sexual preferences, unless, of course, you're ralph and wants to "come out" on school time.

Putting sarcasm aside...I repect your ideals and also hope we can get back to the issues pertaining to our kids but with the atmosphere at all the boe meetings it will be impossible to conduct real business that pertains to the kids without cleaning up the mess that has become our boe.

For Falouzis to sit there and nominate Weeks to be the vp. For Weeks to sit there and nominate Falouzis to be the pres. For that, in itself, to happen is a mockery and a slap in the face to all who attend these meetings.

My hope is that Mr. Mostow continues, what appeared to be, the start of a civilized dialogue with the community on how to solve problems we are facing.
I hope he, you Mr. Mostow if you're listening, will realize that we are stuck with eachother for 5 years. That, in another year, the majority of the board will change through the election process and by that time I hope that you will have turned the tides and let it be known that you are really here for the kids not here to bolster the political push and pull that we now have. If this happens, if you make this happen now, hopefully we are not lost.

07-08-2005, 10:56 AM
Mostow is one of THEM! Fat 5 year contract, brought in his attorneys as the district's attorneys, bringing friends into the district to fill positions (business and asst principal), and watch for more of Mostows "people" to take over Patchogue and rape our district even further. He is arrogant and self-serving and is not there for our children -he found the cash cow

patmedmom
07-08-2005, 12:51 PM
he's sadly mistaken if he thinks PatMed is a cash cow...we're tapped out!
The truth is - we're going to have to live with the fact we can't shake him loose so easily. So, let's hold him to the task and get our money's worth. Let's hope that in five years we can look back and say " Mike Mostow did the job."
On the other hand, Peggy & Tina are OUT next Spring. Christie Jo will find herself on the other side of the fence and Colin, the accused felon, will be gone before long.
Joe LoSchiavo and Brian Brady are the bastions of good common sense and fighting the good fight.
Mike Miles is afraid of his own shadow and wants everybody to play nice. He wants to get back to business - hey Mike, you have evil in your midst and until they're gone, there's no trust in what the Board of Ed does. They have lost any moral high ground one would hope the Board would maintain in our community and become a farce instead.

07-08-2005, 02:10 PM
Patmedmom -
I agree with you on Mostow, let's hope we get our money's worth, because if we do, this district will be in good shape (I know that's hard to believe right now.
I respectfully disagree with you on your 2nd and 3rd points. I will not take it for granted that Peggy and Tina can't win next spring. I think they still have some tricks up their sleeves and I expect we'll need to work to get rid of them.
Mr. Miles is absolutely correct. Let's face it, we're stuck with a Peggy/Tina majority until next spring. Our most immediate concern needs to be the students and the 05/06 school year on austerity. He is not afraid of his own shadow, he's very courageous and he put his ass on the line when he put forth the resolution to rescind Mostow's contract. He see's the bigger picture and he has his priorities in order. I'm not saying people shouldn't be angry about things, but we need to channel it into a controlled, constructive anger.

07-08-2005, 02:31 PM
You people are low. the posts at 5:39 pm on july 7th and at 8:32 pm on july 7th were not me they were buy someone else trying to make me look bad I suppose but whatever. Just figured I'd inform you of that.

Guest at 8:39 am, that was not sarcasm, that was bias. That comment was disgusting and disgraceful. If you have a problem with gays... please dont hesitate to tell me.

Fallen Angel 401
07-08-2005, 02:38 PM
Note: the post by guest, July 8th at 1:01 pm was me, Fallen Angell 401. THe REAL one.

07-08-2005, 03:25 PM
No problem at all with gays. My god, you are so proper. It was a dig at your friend Tina who is assisting a janitor with a law suit against our district by giving him tapes of executive board sessions after he lost his job because he approached 2 male ESL students for sex.
If in fact, my dear, you are gay...I find that very sexy.

Fallen Angel 401
07-08-2005, 05:33 PM
I'm gay? May I ask how you know that? I am fairly sure that dating women means i am straight but I am just misinformed. Please keep your feelings to yourself. I dont mind you finding my "gayness" sexy but just please dont tell me more than i want to know, sorry.

patmedmom
07-08-2005, 06:06 PM
hey, this thread is on the PatMed School board...not poster's sexuality.

How the heck can you assume somebody's sexual preference by their screen name?

Stick to the topic and don't get personal. It's stupid and pointless.
Doesn't add a thing to the dialogue.

07-08-2005, 06:37 PM
Patmed mom

At least you finally got one thing correct.

Just because Tina may have had an affair with one of the PTA moms is no reason to be against her

patmedmom
07-08-2005, 06:54 PM
even if it would have been Christie Jo?
would that make a difference?

I got a lot more right than you may ever know

Fallen Angel 401
07-08-2005, 07:31 PM
Are you saying Tina had an affair with Christie Jo?

07-08-2005, 08:31 PM
even if it would have been Christie Jo?
would that make a difference?

I got a lot more right than you may ever know

There is so much more than you will ever know

patmedmom
07-08-2005, 08:39 PM
woo woo!
oh you are just so in-the-know we are totally impressed


NOT!


Fallen Angel 401 (if it is indeed really you) I didn't say that
I said if......
consider the possibilities
although there are plenty of other PTA moms who would LOVE to hook up with Tina, I'm sure

red raider
07-11-2005, 12:12 AM
Has anyone heard if the district will allow a pay a fee type program for athletics in this district of austerity? Thank You

lesbian lover
07-11-2005, 12:20 AM
i love it, who cares if their ugly, gimme more!

07-11-2005, 03:20 AM
Hi Red Raider,

It was mentioned by the new lawyers, at I believe the last BOE meeting, that it is illegal to have a pay for play program because it interfers with the law of a free education for all students. Sorry for the bad news. :cry:

guest55
07-11-2005, 11:21 AM
I don't know if evreybody is aware but thet is a fundraiser displayed at most of the businesses in Patchogue to collect funds by donation to support the athletics program

This is perfectly legal as long as there are no stipulations attached when the money is donated (ie: money must be used only for girls basketball or varsity football).

The money must be distributed just as it was during the normal school year.

Support this effort at least the kids get back somthing. If we must do this for the next few years until a budget is passed..so be it.

07-11-2005, 01:19 PM
What a great Idea have the people who want sports or have kids in sports pay for it not he whole community. Thats a great way to save money. Lets keep cumming up with these great ideas to keep our taxes down!

07-11-2005, 01:26 PM
So much for the concept of FREE PUBLIC EDUCATION !!!!!!!

guest55
07-11-2005, 01:55 PM
the only reason why this is being done, is because the budget will most likley be voted down for the next few years until this board gets it act together and clean up the mess that been created.

its better to preserve this than to lose it and it would become more difficult if not more expensive to start over.

also the donations will not come from individual parents who's kids are in sports it will come from Patchogue business, and most residents who have children or not, who would like to support and believe in these activities, money can be allocated to support the Music program also.

its a contingincy plan that is temporary to keep from losing the competitive edge this district has in certain areas.

blame the Fa'Loser and crew for this mess they created, some of us are trying to work around the board log jam that we have here.

07-11-2005, 01:56 PM
you guys are fuckin idiots.
you voted down the budget and now you're upset because the kids can't get what they need. they deserve better and we are going to pay one way or another. they are kids and need these things.
where the hell do you all think this money comes from? the same section 8 housing fund that your rent comes from?
morons...
you want a cadilac but only want to pay for an old piece of shit toyota like the one sitting in your driveway.
it doesn't work that way.
you're complaining about housing values going down, that we now have to pay to sponsor athletics, that there are too many kids in a room, that teachers are losing their jobs.
complain away but if you want what's right for the kids you're going to have to reach in your pocket one way or another.
you should have voted yes, both times, like anybody else who had the brains to look past the weeks and felouzis issues. you didn't send a message to them by voting no, you guaranteed a hardship for our children.

07-11-2005, 02:51 PM
I voted 'yes' both times. I have never voted no for a budget, nor will I ever in the future. The community did send a message and I recv'd it. Get my kids the hell out of here as quickly as I can, and move to a district where the residents aren't so ignorant and the BOE isn't so scanalous.

07-11-2005, 03:05 PM
Go ahead, move away.
The grass is always greener....
Somewhere over the rainbow blue birds fly. Birds fly over the rainbow, why, then oh why, can't I?
Fly away little bluebird. Fly over the rainbow where everything is just peachy.

07-11-2005, 04:28 PM
True.....BUT it is better to fly away with a Superint. contract of over $1 Mill.....ha ha ha

SJBFORME
07-12-2005, 01:08 AM
MOVE YOUR KIDS TO THE PRIVATE SECTOR- THEIR SCHOOL BOARDS LAY IT ALL ON THE LINE. NOT SNIFF IT UP LIKE SOME OF OUR BOARD MEMBERS OR TAPE IT AWAY. SAD BUT TRUE. POOR KIDS FROM PATMED PAYING THE PRICE FROM A COMMUNITY TOO AFRAID TO VOTE FOR THE DECEPTION THEY SEE AS INEVITABLE.

BINTHERE
07-12-2005, 02:22 AM
I BELIEVE THAT THE PREVIOUS STATEMENTS BY GUEST ARE WRONG. YOU SAY THE COMMUNITY VOTED NO SPECIFICALLY BECAUSE OF THE INCOMPETENT SCHOOL BOARD SHENANIGANS. WHILE I AGREE WITH THEIR INCOMPETENCE, IT IS NOT THE ONLY REASON PEOPLE VOTED NO.
WHEN THEY PROPOSED AN OUTRAGEOUS INCREASE OF 15.8%, THEY SIGNED THEIR OWN DEATH WARRANT. THERE IS A LIMIT TO WHAT THIS COMMUNITY CAN AFFORD, AND THEY HAVE EXCEEDED THAT LIMIT. THERE HAS BEEN CONTINUOS LARGE TAX INCREASES IN THE LAST FEW YEARS DUE IN PART TO THIS BOARDS INEPT FISCAL MANAGEMENT. THIS WOULD INCLUDE THEIR INABILITY TO NEGOTIATE CONTRACTS, THE CONSTANT HIRING OF OUTSIDE CONSULTANTS. THE HIRING OF 2 PRINCIPALS AT THE HIGH SCHOOL, THE OUTRAGEOUS SALARY OFFERED TO THE SUPERINTENDENT, THE NUMEROUS LAWSUITS THEY CREATED, AND SO ON. THEY HAVE FAILED TO RECOGNIZE THAT THIS DISTRICT WHOLLY SUPPORTED THE $150,000,000 BOND TO EXPAND OUR BUILDINGS. WHEN THAT ISSUE WAS BEING DISCUSSED, I SPECIFICALLY ASKED THE BOARD IF THEY WOULD HOLD THE LINE ON FUTURE TAX INCREASES SO THAT WE MAY ABSORB THIS INCREASE. THEY RESPONDED WITH A RESOUNDING YES. THE FOLLOWING YEAR THEY FORGOT THEIR PROMISE AND BEGAN INCREASING THE REGULAR BUDGET BY SUBSTANTIAL AMOUNTS. THEY EVEN GAVE OUT BIG RAISES TO ADMINISTRATIORS DURING THIS TIME. THAT WAS THE WRONG MESSAGE TO SEND ,WHILE WE AGREED TO STRUGGLE TO PAY FOR BUILDING IMPROVMENTS. THE REAL PROBLEM IS THIS BOARD AND THE PREVIOUS BOARD FOR BELIEVING TAXPAYERS HAD A NEVER ENDING SUPPLY OF MONEY FOR THE TAKING. THEY WALKED LOCKSTEP WITH THE UNIONS, AND GAVE AWAY THE STORE ONCE AGAIN. I KNOW ALL ABOUT MANDATES, AND THE INCREASE COSTS OF EVERYDAY EXPENSES, BUT YOU PLAN AHEAD FOR THESE ITEMS, NOT USE THEM AS EXCUSES AS IF THEY DIDN'T KNOW. AND YOU DO NOT GIVE OUT HUGE SALARY INCREASE WHILE YOU ARE STRUGGLING TO PAY THE BILLS. THESE ARE BUT A FEW EXAMPLES AS TO WHY THE BUDGET HAS FAILED. AND THESE ALL COULD HAVE BEEN AVOIDED IF WE HAD A COMPETENT SCHOOL BOARD. THEIR LASTEST SHENANIGANS ARE JUST THE ICING ON THE CAKE. I READ IN A LETTER TO THE ADVANCE PRIOR TO THE BUDGET ,WRITTEN BY A TEACHER, THAT WE THE RESIDENTS SHOULD GIVE UP GOING TO THE MOVIES, OR STOP BUYING McDONALDS HAMBURGERS TO PAY FOR THE 15.8% INCREASE. FOR SOME OF US THAT MIGHT BE OUR BIG NIGHT OUT. LAST YEAR THE TEACHERS UNION ASKED US TO GIVE UP OUR MORNING CUP OF COFFEE TO PAY FOR THE INCREASE. WELL WHERE DOES IT STOP?
I PROPOSE THAT THE TEACHERS UNION STOP BEING SO GREEDY, AND PERHAPS THEY SHOULD GIVE UP SOME PERKS THEY RECIEVE.
BUT ALAS I REMEMBER THAT THE SCHOOL BOARD DID AGREE TO THESE CONTRACTS. BUT I ALSO UNDERSTAND THAT MANY ON THE BOARD HAD GOTTEN FAMILY MEMBERS TEACHING JOBS IN THIS DISTRICT.. WHAT PARENT WOULD DENY THEIR CHILD A BIG FAT RAISE. THIS BOARD SHOULD BE ASHAMED OF WHAT THEY DID TO THIS DISTRICT. DON;T BLAME THE RESIDENTS FOR THIS DEBACLE, PUT THE BLAME SQUARELY ON THE SHOULDERS OF THIS BOARD, WHERE IT BELONGS

07-12-2005, 08:16 AM
The board is not fully to blame. Ignorant parent's are partially to blame as well. I know several that didn't vote or voted no, and they had no idea of the issues. I'm sure many of these will be the first to cry about lack of programs and services. With one of the lowest tax rates on the island, these budgets weren't as outrageous as many people would have you believe. This district started out behind the eight ball, now we're further behind.

SJBFORME
07-12-2005, 09:31 AM
I TOTALLY AGREE WITH THE TWO PREVIOUS POSTERS. I WAS STATING THAT I THOUGHT THESE MEMBER ANTICS WERE INDEED THE ICING ON A VERY ROTTEN CAKE. THANKS BINTHERE FOR PUTTING IT OUT IN THE OPEN LIKE THAT.

longylander
07-12-2005, 10:12 AM
THE PARENTS BELONG TO:

THE SCHOOL OF HARD KNOCKS !!!!!

Which all of us tax payers belong to especially when we have corrupt school board members and uncertified teachers who happen to be daughters of school board presidents.
All are welcome to the Peggy and Tina show hosted by the Pat-Med School District. Just come to any school board meeting and see the power hungry antics of lunatic minds. We have the Peggy and Tina show with special guest Christie Jo. watch and have her strings pulled by the evil Peggy. Then we have a special feature of Tina sucking the district dry with legal bills (the insurance company refused the claim)when this money should be going for the kids. But wait there is more!!!!! The board member with a pending residence at the Yaphank jail..... Jeeez. you can't make this stuff up. This show is sponsered by the law firm of Screwem, Stickem and Billem the conflict of Interests specialists representeing everybody...... stay tuned......
and yes I have been to meetings.

TIDLYWINKS
07-13-2005, 01:09 AM
WHAT A POST!!! :) :) :)

07-13-2005, 09:53 AM
I BELIEVE THAT THE PREVIOUS STATEMENTS BY GUEST ARE WRONG. YOU SAY THE COMMUNITY VOTED NO SPECIFICALLY BECAUSE OF THE INCOMPETENT SCHOOL BOARD SHENANIGANS. WHILE I AGREE WITH THEIR INCOMPETENCE, IT IS NOT THE ONLY REASON PEOPLE VOTED NO.
WHEN THEY PROPOSED AN OUTRAGEOUS INCREASE OF 15.8%, THEY SIGNED THEIR OWN DEATH WARRANT. THERE IS A LIMIT TO WHAT THIS COMMUNITY CAN AFFORD, AND THEY HAVE EXCEEDED THAT LIMIT. THERE HAS BEEN CONTINUOS LARGE TAX INCREASES IN THE LAST FEW YEARS DUE IN PART TO THIS BOARDS INEPT FISCAL MANAGEMENT. THIS WOULD INCLUDE THEIR INABILITY TO NEGOTIATE CONTRACTS, THE CONSTANT HIRING OF OUTSIDE CONSULTANTS. THE HIRING OF 2 PRINCIPALS AT THE HIGH SCHOOL, THE OUTRAGEOUS SALARY OFFERED TO THE SUPERINTENDENT, THE NUMEROUS LAWSUITS THEY CREATED, AND SO ON. THEY HAVE FAILED TO RECOGNIZE THAT THIS DISTRICT WHOLLY SUPPORTED THE $150,000,000 BOND TO EXPAND OUR BUILDINGS. WHEN THAT ISSUE WAS BEING DISCUSSED, I SPECIFICALLY ASKED THE BOARD IF THEY WOULD HOLD THE LINE ON FUTURE TAX INCREASES SO THAT WE MAY ABSORB THIS INCREASE. THEY RESPONDED WITH A RESOUNDING YES. THE FOLLOWING YEAR THEY FORGOT THEIR PROMISE AND BEGAN INCREASING THE REGULAR BUDGET BY SUBSTANTIAL AMOUNTS. THEY EVEN GAVE OUT BIG RAISES TO ADMINISTRATIORS DURING THIS TIME. THAT WAS THE WRONG MESSAGE TO SEND ,WHILE WE AGREED TO STRUGGLE TO PAY FOR BUILDING IMPROVMENTS. THE REAL PROBLEM IS THIS BOARD AND THE PREVIOUS BOARD FOR BELIEVING TAXPAYERS HAD A NEVER ENDING SUPPLY OF MONEY FOR THE TAKING. THEY WALKED LOCKSTEP WITH THE UNIONS, AND GAVE AWAY THE STORE ONCE AGAIN. I KNOW ALL ABOUT MANDATES, AND THE INCREASE COSTS OF EVERYDAY EXPENSES, BUT YOU PLAN AHEAD FOR THESE ITEMS, NOT USE THEM AS EXCUSES AS IF THEY DIDN'T KNOW. AND YOU DO NOT GIVE OUT HUGE SALARY INCREASE WHILE YOU ARE STRUGGLING TO PAY THE BILLS. THESE ARE BUT A FEW EXAMPLES AS TO WHY THE BUDGET HAS FAILED. AND THESE ALL COULD HAVE BEEN AVOIDED IF WE HAD A COMPETENT SCHOOL BOARD. THEIR LASTEST SHENANIGANS ARE JUST THE ICING ON THE CAKE. I READ IN A LETTER TO THE ADVANCE PRIOR TO THE BUDGET ,WRITTEN BY A TEACHER, THAT WE THE RESIDENTS SHOULD GIVE UP GOING TO THE MOVIES, OR STOP BUYING McDONALDS HAMBURGERS TO PAY FOR THE 15.8% INCREASE. FOR SOME OF US THAT MIGHT BE OUR BIG NIGHT OUT. LAST YEAR THE TEACHERS UNION ASKED US TO GIVE UP OUR MORNING CUP OF COFFEE TO PAY FOR THE INCREASE. WELL WHERE DOES IT STOP?
I PROPOSE THAT THE TEACHERS UNION STOP BEING SO GREEDY, AND PERHAPS THEY SHOULD GIVE UP SOME PERKS THEY RECIEVE.
BUT ALAS I REMEMBER THAT THE SCHOOL BOARD DID AGREE TO THESE CONTRACTS. BUT I ALSO UNDERSTAND THAT MANY ON THE BOARD HAD GOTTEN FAMILY MEMBERS TEACHING JOBS IN THIS DISTRICT.. WHAT PARENT WOULD DENY THEIR CHILD A BIG FAT RAISE. THIS BOARD SHOULD BE ASHAMED OF WHAT THEY DID TO THIS DISTRICT. DON;T BLAME THE RESIDENTS FOR THIS DEBACLE, PUT THE BLAME SQUARELY ON THE SHOULDERS OF THIS BOARD, WHERE IT BELONGS


HERE HERE! What an excelent statement. I agree wholeheartedly! It's about time someone wrote in with something intelligent to say instead of just bashing.

SJBFORME
07-13-2005, 10:02 AM
YEAH YEAH-ANOTHER GREAT POST-

pissed off parent
07-13-2005, 07:05 PM
I think it's about overdue to hold the state and federal politicians to task for dumping their unfunded mandates upon our struggling schools. It amounts to a back-door tax on us, an unfair burden and a misguided effort in the first place. Compliance costs us over a million dollars of our budget.
that pisses me off.

SJBFORME
07-13-2005, 07:23 PM
UNFORTUNATLY, THE ONLY SOLUTION BESIDES BOOSTER CLUB IS FOR THE PARENTS OF SPORTING KIDS TO PAY FOR THE SPORTS. IN PRIVATE SCHOOL, PARENTS PAY FOR THEIR CHILDRENS SPORTS. APPROX $250.00 FOR COACHES, INS ETC. THATS THE WAY OF THE WORLD. THE PARENTS HERE SHOULD TOO. SAD BUT TRUE.

guest 101
07-13-2005, 10:16 PM
Hey SJB, There is NO Pay for Play in NY. And if you're worried about uncertified teachers then why are you thinking about St. Johns?

SJBFORME
07-13-2005, 11:32 PM
WHO SAID ANYTHING ABOUT UNCERTIFIED TEACHERS? WELL, IN TIMES LIKE THIS PERHAPS IT SHOULD BE PAY FOR PLAY. THIS IS NOT YOUR FAULT OR MINE, IT IS BECAUSE OF A NUMBER OF REASONS WHICH HAVE BEEN THRASHED ABOT FOR WEEKS. ALSO, I KNOW ALL ABOUT SJB AND ITS CERTIFIED TEACHERS. AT LEAST THEIR SCHOOL BOARD IS FOR THE KIDS ALL OF THE TIME, UNLIKE OURS. SAD BUT TRUE.

Experienced parent
07-14-2005, 12:10 AM
Private schools have less strict requirements then ny state. Its a fact, worse teachers for more money>>>you're a dummy if you buy into it.

hellokitty
07-14-2005, 01:56 AM
Wow...I've been away for a long, long, time...and this is all news to me. Hope that you guys work out your problems before September. These kids need a stable school environment, not name-calling. I'm sorry that the lawsuits and thingies have you all crazy. I voted both times FOR the budget, even though my kids are grown. I like to have a district where the teachers are happy and the administration works for the kids to make things right. Hope you all feel the same. And I HOPE that you are not trying to make political hay with all this dirt.....it will only reverberate on your own kids/housing investments/souls.

red raider
07-14-2005, 05:13 PM
What a grandstand play for parents and boosters to raise money for sports. The meeting Friday would be better served to figure out a way to boycott school until the BOE finds the money. I still want to know how much the athletic director earns and how much the teachers receive as chaperones for these events as they are marching around in yellow security jackets. A proposal of good faith in our district would be the teachers chaperoning for free instead of taking money from the booster collection. This district has all of us in a noose and keeps tightening the rope

patmedmom
07-14-2005, 06:51 PM
raising private money for school athletics sets a dangerous precedent - the community will see that they don't need to fund sports any more.

why isn't there more fuss being made about the clubs and activities which will be cut out due to the failed budget?

Why does Mr. Mostow have to depend on a citizen's advisory committee to review and rework the budget? What happened to our school board and their finance committee? Is our school board so incompetent they are incapable of performing this task themselves? This should have been in place over the past year but Peggy and Tina were too busy with their own nasty business to allow the public any input or have a real say in the budget process.

And wasn't Tina the board member responsible for the financial committee in the first place? This whole fiasco rests completely on her, as far as I can tell. She's got to go. For many reasons.

MEOW
07-14-2005, 08:37 PM
COULDN'T AGREE WITH YOU MORE MOM!!!

PRIVATE AYE
07-15-2005, 12:02 AM
YES PRIVATE SCHOOL TEACHERS CAN BE INFERIOR BUT THERE ARE HIGHER QUALITY STUDENTS AND PARENTS!!!!!!!!!

guest 101
07-15-2005, 12:25 AM
YES PRIVATE SCHOOL TEACHERS CAN BE INFERIOR BUT THERE ARE HIGHER QUALITY STUDENTS AND PARENTS!!!!!!!!!

Just remember one thing.....If you put a tie on a PIG it's STILL a PIG :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

07-15-2005, 01:51 PM
Hey, cheer up !!!! It could be worse, we could be in Hempstead !

patmedmom
07-15-2005, 07:49 PM
it's a game of one-upsmanship between Hempstead and Patchogue as to which is the most disfunctional school board. Definitely Hempstead takes the lead.
Although we have our share of dirty birds too...that accused felon Mincy and that immoral Weeks abetted by amoral Falusis.

hacht frect
07-15-2005, 10:42 PM
Trustee McGiff is the best trustee by far...did anyone read The Advance?

PM KITTY
07-16-2005, 10:44 AM
ANYONE GO TO THE "SECRET BOARD MTG" YESTERDAY AM? I AM SO DISCUSTED WITH THESE FOOLS. THIS IS THE BIGGEST SCAM GOING. OUR SCHOOL DISTRICT IS AS VAD AS ROOSEVELT. AND DID YOU CHECK OUT THE SCHOOL SCORES IN NEWSDAY? WE RANKED NICE AND LOW ON THAT TOO. WHAT A TERRIBLE, TERRIBLE SHAME. BECAUSE OF ALL THIS OUR COMMUNITY HAS SUFFERED EVEN MORE. FEZLOUSIS,WEEKS,MINCY, LANG AND MOSTOW YOU WILL BE REMOVED FOR YOUR ACTIONS. I PERSONALLY WILL GET THE STATE COMPTROLLERS DOWN HERE TO CHECK OUT YOUR ACTIONS AND YOUR ETHICS? LETS JUST SAY THE COMMISH WILL DO THE SAME. SORRY ALL THIS BAD PRESS MUST BE DONE. ITS THE ONLY WAY TO GET RID OF YOU EVIL-DOERS. :evil: :evil: :evil:

07-16-2005, 11:07 AM
Comm. MILLS...too busy being ineffective in Hempstead to give a damn about Pat-Med. Wake Up !!!!!

07-16-2005, 11:42 AM
Get real PM Kitty! Do you think Mills is going to come here, when he should be focusing on places like Hempstead? The meeting on Friday morning was no secret. Get out more, if you are so concerned. It was posted in many places; in every school and district office. The problem is people are not moving forward. Stop all this bashing and get back on track. Our kids are suffering for all this bickering at the adult level. When are you all going to realize that our financial problems are not the result of this board, but the long term result of incompetent and unethical boards and administrators before this? This board is just the unlucky one to be present for the finale. I think everyone will eventually come to realize this. I commend the committee members that have organized the booster club. They are doing something productive to ensure that the children get some of their programs back. I hope others come forward and try to raise money to reinstore some other areas that were cut. So PM Kitty, when you contact the commish and the press to air all our problems, ask them if they could spare a small donation for our kids programs. Any amount will help, and I think we'll take from wherever we can get it......for the benefit of our children!!!

07-16-2005, 02:06 PM
Guest at 10:12.
I agree with most of your posting. It is all about the kids and we have to get together for them. Mills is totally ineffective statewide.
What I don't agree with is your statement that all our problems are the issues of previous boards. The reason we are in austerity is because the public has no faith in Felouzis and Weeks period. We would have had money to do many things, that would have solved many problems but, unfortunaltely, we have to deal with these 2 evil women who, no matter what you say or feel, have proven time and time again that their way of thinking, how warped it may be, is more important than the wellbeing of our school district.
I wish that the people working on it will find a way to legally prosecute these women without the district having the burdon to defend them. What they are doing is morally and ethically wrong. It is also, from what I've been told from very reliable sourses, illegal and these women must be brought out into the open and prosecuted to the full extent of the law. That is the only legacy their time on the board will leave behind.
Period, proven, done!

07-16-2005, 02:50 PM
Perhaps if our money had been managed better in past years, we wouldn't have been so in the hole at this budget vote. We went into this budget with a huge deficit from last year. We had to make that up first. If people voted no to the budget because of the unfortunate antics of Weeks, then they hurt no one but their own children, and mine for that matter. The money wasn't about Weeks, it was about sports, music, smaller class size, extracurricular activities, textbooks, technology, etc.

07-16-2005, 03:13 PM
I know there is a move to raise money for the school sports programs. However is there any attempt to save the music and art programs as well. These are equally important to save as sports! Also does anyone know if there is a website for the new booster club?

PM KITTY
07-16-2005, 04:35 PM
PLEASE, POSTED AT THE SCHOOLS? WHO GOES TO THE SCHOOLS DURING THE SUMMER? ADMINISTRATION OFFICE, WHO GOES THERE? THAT STATEMENT IS CRAP. ALOT OF PEOPLE WHO HAVE BEEN ATTENDING THE SCHOOL BOARD MEETINGS DID NOT KNOW ABOUT THE AM MEETING. STOP DEFENDING MSTOW AND FEZ AND WEEKS ACTIONS. PERHAPS YOU ARE ON THE NEW HAND SELECTED SCHOOL BOARD COMMITEE? YOU ARE RIGHT, THE KIDS ARE THE ONES SUFFERING AND THAT IS TOO BAD. ALSO, BOOSTER CLUB UNFORTUNATLY IS A GOOD IDEA, BUT WHO IS GOING TO MANAGE THE MONEY???TINA, MINCY,MOSTOW AND FEZLOSER? I WOULD NOT GIVE A PENNY TILL SOMEONE RESPONSIBLE AND HONEST STEPS UP.

07-16-2005, 04:57 PM
Proof of the pudding Kitty, that you have no clue what you are talking about. No, I'm not on the "hand selected committee," as you put it, nor do I really know what that means. I'm just a taxpayer and parent of children who will suffer for your line of thinking. As for the booster club, don't knock it. These men have come forward to give their time to try to put back some of what the kids have lost. I understand the money must be raised by a certain time and it must be turned over to the district to be used only for sports. I'm not sure the board would even have anything to do with managing that money. It would be raised by the community and obviously managed by the administration. I'm guessing you won't donate, and you probably voted no to the budget. Wake up......we've got to move forward!