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Right Wingers
12-21-2010, 09:02 PM
I figured with everything going on in the county with NIFA about to take over that NCCA would have some interesting commentary on the current affairs. Instead the big issue they grabbed hold of was gays in the military, seems to me like their priorities are a bit out of whack.

I did happen to find one article regarding the county back in September regarding the retiring millionaire police chiefs. The same article offered a positive view of Mangano even though he needed to borrow money to pay for the retirements.

Who are these people that write this obviously biased commentary.

http://nassaucivic.com/default.htm

Unregistered Marine
12-22-2010, 10:59 PM
I figured with everything going on in the county with NIFA about to take over that NCCA would have some interesting commentary on the current affairs. Instead the big issue they grabbed hold of was gays in the military, seems to me like their priorities are a bit out of whack.

I did happen to find one article regarding the county back in September regarding the retiring millionaire police chiefs. The same article offered a positive view of Mangano even though he needed to borrow money to pay for the retirements.

Who are these people that write this obviously biased commentary.

http://nassaucivic.com/default.htm

Your left wing kook Obama just destroyed the military. In a few years people like you will be asking for a draft. If you don't understand the national security implications, you are just plan too stupid to figuire it out. in the end, our financial state will pale to our failure to have a strong military vs one hyjacked by those who want to inject their socal agenda.

Slaving To Pay Taxes
12-22-2010, 11:14 PM
Your left wing kook Obama just destroyed the military. In a few years people like you will be asking for a draft. If you don't understand the national security implications, you are just plan too stupid to figuire it out. in the end, our financial state will pale to our failure to have a strong military vs one hyjacked by those who want to inject their socal agenda.

You sound gay. The majority of straight people don't really care all that much about this issue. Reference the "family values" politicians found soliciting in men's rooms.

That Nassau Civic website is the fugliest I've seen all year. Hello, 1986!

Unstupid
12-22-2010, 11:42 PM
Your left wing kook Obama just destroyed the military. In a few years people like you will be asking for a draft. If you don't understand the national security implications, you are just plan too stupid to figuire it out. in the end, our financial state will pale to our failure to have a strong military vs one hyjacked by those who want to inject their socal agenda.

You have the nerve to call other people stupid when you can't even spell simple words. What's a "socal agenda"? And "hyjacked"????? "Figuire"? You are sad.

wahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh
12-23-2010, 12:08 AM
You sound gay. The majority of straight people don't really care all that much about this issue. Reference the "family values" politicians found soliciting in men's rooms.

That Nassau Civic website is the fugliest I've seen all year. Hello, 1986!

Keep your fantasies to yourself. Your reference to the word straight sounds like your half way in the closet. Easy now, go home and watch your favorite movie, Milk.

want to leave ny
12-23-2010, 12:22 AM
You sound gay. The majority of straight people don't really care all that much about this issue. Reference the "family values" politicians found soliciting in men's rooms.

That Nassau Civic website is the fugliest I've seen all year. Hello, 1986!

I think their site very interesting. I understand why they focus on national issues. Baracka Hussain Obama is an evil sob. Everything he does is for his ideological agenda learned from his political minister, Wright.

They do have a lot to say on state and local issues too. It just looks like this state is going down hill. After Spitzer and Paterson, anyone is better. The problem is the Democrats that controlled the legislature and the governship was corrupt. How many went to jail? How many scandals in 4 years? Too many.

Right Wingers
12-23-2010, 07:50 AM
I think their site very interesting. I understand why they focus on national issues. Baracka Hussain Obama is an evil sob. Everything he does is for his ideological agenda learned from his political minister, Wright.

They do have a lot to say on state and local issues too. It just looks like this state is going down hill. After Spitzer and Paterson, anyone is better. The problem is the Democrats that controlled the legislature and the governship was corrupt. How many went to jail? How many scandals in 4 years? Too many.

Their name gives me the impression they are involved in county issues but there is very little on the local front.

Democrats are responsible for the demise? Do you not rememeber Skelos recruiting 2 convicted felons so he could keep his share of the pork, remember Bruno or the escalation of pensions under Pataki?

Time for you to grow up and realize that both parties are responsible for the current situation, plenty of blame to go around but we keep on reelecting leaders like Silver and Skelos expeting a change.

NY State & Nassau County are on the verge of insolvency meanwhile the NCCA is addressing those important issues like DADT. By the way Israel. Canada, Austrailia, Britain allow gays in the military but don't let that influence you.

Unregisteredree
12-23-2010, 09:18 AM
Your left wing kook Obama just destroyed the military. In a few years people like you will be asking for a draft. If you don't understand the national security implications, you are just plan too stupid to figuire it out. in the end, our financial state will pale to our failure to have a strong military vs one hyjacked by those who want to inject their socal agenda.

This is funny. These are the same things they said when they desegregated the troops. I guess there will always be some people who are just bigots.

no to gay left wingers
12-23-2010, 07:07 PM
Their name gives me the impression they are involved in county issues but there is very little on the local front.

Democrats are responsible for the demise? Do you not rememeber Skelos recruiting 2 convicted felons so he could keep his share of the pork, remember Bruno or the escalation of pensions under Pataki?

Time for you to grow up and realize that both parties are responsible for the current situation, plenty of blame to go around but we keep on reelecting leaders like Silver and Skelos expeting a change.

NY State & Nassau County are on the verge of insolvency meanwhile the NCCA is addressing those important issues like DADT. By the way Israel. Canada, Austrailia, Britain allow gays in the military but don't let that influence you.

The democrats caused the insolvency. Are you that blind?? They were in control right?

Your fascination with skelos is scary. The felons were democrats.

DADT is very important. It will damage the military for the good of who? The bottom line is how will it help our military and America? It will not.

The other countries don't matter. All three in effect have no real military. Look at their performance in Afganistan, a joke. A better comparison is Russia and China. Israel has a national draft.

No to gay left wingers
12-23-2010, 07:08 PM
This is funny. These are the same things they said when they desegregated the troops. I guess there will always be some people who are just bigots.

Can't compare perversion and race. Nice try though.

Roe "C"
12-23-2010, 08:18 PM
I guess the key players in the NAssau C Party are anti-gay?

John Fanning will not b pleased,

Unregistered12
12-23-2010, 10:27 PM
The democrats caused the insolvency. Are you that blind?? They were in control right?

Your fascination with skelos is scary. The felons were democrats.

DADT is very important. It will damage the military for the good of who? The bottom line is how will it help our military and America? It will not.

The other countries don't matter. All three in effect have no real military. Look at their performance in Afganistan, a joke. A better comparison is Russia and China. Israel has a national draft.

My facination is with voters like you that act like children in a playground arguing whose father is stronger. Both parties have been responsible for the situation in NY, Skelos, Silver democrat, republican take your pick. I try not to confuse party with corruption but please continue to argue which is responsible. The felons were democrats well Skelos didn't seem to have a problem putting either in charge as long as his party retained control, maybe you see a small issue with that? Do you think the voters interests at heart when he caused the meltdown in Albany?

Israel has no real military?? Did you actually look at the facts. Alright so you would rather use Russia and China, see any issue there? DADT is important, at reducing the already lean recruitment numbers? There are already gays in the military willing to make the sacrifice for their country, if you know someone willing to take their place send them over to the recruitment office. It has already been proven that DADT is a non issue in other countries.

no to gay left wingers
12-24-2010, 03:05 AM
My facination is with voters like you that act like children in a playground arguing whose father is stronger. Both parties have been responsible for the situation in NY, Skelos, Silver democrat, republican take your pick. I try not to confuse party with corruption but please continue to argue which is responsible. The felons were democrats well Skelos didn't seem to have a problem putting either in charge as long as his party retained control, maybe you see a small issue with that? Do you think the voters interests at heart when he caused the meltdown in Albany?

Israel has no real military?? Did you actually look at the facts. Alright so you would rather use Russia and China, see any issue there? DADT is important, at reducing the already lean recruitment numbers? There are already gays in the military willing to make the sacrifice for their country, if you know someone willing to take their place send them over to the recruitment office. It has already been proven that DADT is a non issue in other countries.

The children reference is foolish. You have always complained about Skelos in these threads even though he was out of power for 2 yrs. You are a typical left wing out of the mainstream Democrat, oh same thing. Name any Democrat in NY that actually did not tax and spend excluding Hugh Carey?

I said Israel has a draft not that it has no real military. Furthermore, there has been segregation of units. The majority of homosexuals serve in the intelligence area.

homosexuals have been in the military but have been extremely discreet with the former policy started in 1778 by Washington and altered in 1993. Now they will be open. The normal progression is anything goes. This will be a distraction and problematic. As to recruitment, all numbers have been met. Only a few hundred or 1% of all discharges are for homosexuality and most make declarations on their own.

Unregistered12
12-28-2010, 08:07 AM
The children reference is foolish. You have always complained about Skelos in these threads even though he was out of power for 2 yrs. You are a typical left wing out of the mainstream Democrat, oh same thing. Name any Democrat in NY that actually did not tax and spend excluding Hugh Carey?

I said Israel has a draft not that it has no real military. Furthermore, there has been segregation of units. The majority of homosexuals serve in the intelligence area.

homosexuals have been in the military but have been extremely discreet with the former policy started in 1778 by Washington and altered in 1993. Now they will be open. The normal progression is anything goes. This will be a distraction and problematic. As to recruitment, all numbers have been met. Only a few hundred or 1% of all discharges are for homosexuality and most make declarations on their own.

The children comparison is right on , neither you nor your organization see any issue or offer any criticism against the right. Go back and read through the posts and show me where any meaningful criticism is offered, your message above is more of the same, its Hugh Carey's fault couldn't be Skelos even though he has been in power for 30 years.

DADT has worked in other countries with restrictions, its not even an issue. Your alright with someone sacrificing his life for the country as long as you don't know they're gay.

Seems like there are plenty of more meaningful issues in Nassau County to discuss maybe you could think of something better.

Unregistered655dviiiiiiii
12-28-2010, 10:17 AM
http://nassaucivic.com/default.htm

http://kkk.bz/


Compare these two websites. Uncanny isn't it?

no to gay left wingers
12-28-2010, 07:45 PM
The children comparison is right on , neither you nor your organization see any issue or offer any criticism against the right. Go back and read through the posts and show me where any meaningful criticism is offered, your message above is more of the same, its Hugh Carey's fault couldn't be Skelos even though he has been in power for 30 years.

DADT has worked in other countries with restrictions, its not even an issue. Your alright with someone sacrificing his life for the country as long as you don't know they're gay.

Seems like there are plenty of more meaningful issues in Nassau County to discuss maybe you could think of something better.

Your comment about the right shows that you are a looney tune wacko liberal. Hugh Carey actually did a great job restoring fiscal stability to New York. That was the point. Your party ran the show 100% for two years yet you want to keep blaming Skelos. Same old talking points.

DADT worked fine, on this we agree then why change it now in the middle to two wars? Fighting for our country never excuses bad behavior one in particular that is defined by sexual depravity. Just go to any Gay pride parade. Don't tell me you never observed any obsene activities, yeah I know its all clean fun.

If you don't like the material on the website, go to Moveon.org or some other off the wall site that you enjoy.

I often go the their website and there was an article last month on the fiscal mess facing New York. They actually had the guts to criticize your best friend Skelos and the Re-puke-ans. In that article that actually gave credit to Hugh Carey. One criticism, they seem to have too many speakers from your sick party.

The other post you make about the KKK, you always do that when you can't handle it. A typical crybaby. wah, wah, wah. Try being a real man and man up.

fighting fair
12-28-2010, 08:39 PM
I never heard of this site.

I was surprised to know that there is a racist organization on Long Island so out in the open so I went to the site.

The home page-"America's constitution was founded on Judeo-Christian principles. Of the more then 56 Founding fathers, the majority were Pastors. Three out of four were abolitionists opposed to slavery. American history is filled with the stories of many black patriots and the strong Judaic influence on the Founders."

Accomplishment page-"the NCCA was contacted by a south shore Rabbi who reported that he was having a problem with equal access at his local library and with a park facility in Town of Hempstead. After contacting the library, the issue was resolved. The Town of Hempstead acted immediately to resolve the issue and was very responsive to the needs of people of faith."

The civics page-"Those who profess to favor freedom and yet depreciate agitation, are people who want crops without ploughing the ground; they want rain without thunder and lightning; they want the ocean without the roar of its many waters. The struggle may be a moral one, or it may be a physical one, or it may be both. But it must be a struggle. Power concedes nothing without a demand; it never has and it never will." Fredrick Douglass

One of their articles-"Our values reflected our belief in the creator and was the basis for our government and it's laws. While not perfect, our republic has been forged by the trials of human frailty and the inherent sinful nature of man. This was quite evident when the Founders declared, "all men are created equal" and yet allowed the stain of slavery to continue."

It sounds like the poster who made the comparison to the KKK is very angry at the civic group because he disagrees with their opinion. How sad. By the way, I like the civic site not so much for the articles but for all the links. A lot of info.

Unregistered12
12-28-2010, 09:13 PM
Your comment about the right shows that you are a looney tune wacko liberal. Hugh Carey actually did a great job restoring fiscal stability to New York. That was the point. Your party ran the show 100% for two years yet you want to keep blaming Skelos. Same old talking points.

DADT worked fine, on this we agree then why change it now in the middle to two wars? Fighting for our country never excuses bad behavior one in particular that is defined by sexual depravity. Just go to any Gay pride parade. Don't tell me you never observed any obsene activities, yeah I know its all clean fun.

If you don't like the material on the website, go to Moveon.org or some other off the wall site that you enjoy.

I often go the their website and there was an article last month on the fiscal mess facing New York. They actually had the guts to criticize your best friend Skelos and the Re-puke-ans. In that article that actually gave credit to Hugh Carey. One criticism, they seem to have too many speakers from your sick party.

The other post you make about the KKK, you always do that when you can't handle it. A typical crybaby. wah, wah, wah. Try being a real man and man up.

I missed you point on Carey but kudos to you and to think you only had to go back 30 years to find someone from the left to praise. Funny how you dance around the questionon Skelos but actually don't see a problem with him.

I don't care for moveon any more than your organization and never went to their website, someone else posted the comparison to KKK.

If DADT works so great why are there soldiers who wanted to serve kicked out? Small percentage maybe so but that is far from the point. This is a war in name only people care more about their fantasy pool than brave soldiers being killed.

Back to the point, you want to have a meaningful organization then be fairwhere are the articles on Nassau County, where is the OBJECTIVE criticism of both sides, what makes you different than mirror organizations on the left.

no to gay left wingers
12-29-2010, 12:24 AM
I missed you point on Carey but kudos to you and to think you only had to go back 30 years to find someone from the left to praise. Funny how you dance around the questionon Skelos but actually don't see a problem with him.

I don't care for moveon any more than your organization and never went to their website, someone else posted the comparison to KKK.

If DADT works so great why are there soldiers who wanted to serve kicked out? Small percentage maybe so but that is far from the point. This is a war in name only people care more about their fantasy pool than brave soldiers being killed.

Back to the point, you want to have a meaningful organization then be fairwhere are the articles on Nassau County, where is the OBJECTIVE criticism of both sides, what makes you different than mirror organizations on the left.

Hugh Carey was probably one of the last mainstream Democrats in this state who understood that the tax and spend philosophy was destructive. I had to go back 30 years because there are no other examples including Republicans. Pataki did nothing after his first two years in office except to push the state further to destruction. Skelos was the Deputy majority leader, Bruno was the leader. Bruno did nothing to change the fiscal mess except to oppose the most excessive fiscal follies.

Ok, so you say you don't agree with the hard left yet you use their talking points.

As to DADT, if you look at the discharge data, only 1% were kicked out for homosexuality as DADT was a "compromise" that worked. More then 85% of the 1% were due to declarations made by the the person who was discharged as their motivation was either political or they wanted out.

The issue of left and right must be taken in context. The majority of so called mainstream Newspapers, political websites, non for profits etc have a left wing viewpoint. Looking at this group, they at least discuss important issues, taxes, government reform, illegal immigration (same as national security), traditional marriage, protecting the first amendment if you want to express your faith, etc. How can that be out of the mainstream? Its not. The question is where do you fall? Your a liberal, just be honest.

Its nice to complain about one group who you disagree with but they have done things. They are at least trying. What have you done?? Where were you when the NC legislature tired to get double digit payraises several times?? Where were you when Suozzi raises taxes?? Where were you when all three towns councils raised their taxes?? Where were you when the most govts refused to post their line item budgets?? Where were you when the schools tried to keep raising school taxes??

Even if I don't agree with all of their positions, they at least are trying. By the way, Teddy Roosevelt, was he a progressive, a conservative? What was he? What does that mean about these people??