WHY HAVE THE DEMS GIVEN UP IN TOB?

[GIVING UP TOB]

Whats new, Jacobs sucks

[OYSTER BAY GUY]

NO ONE CAN EXPLAIN THE DEM TICKET IN THE TOB. WHY IS THE TOP OF THE TICKET SUCXH A JOKE? CAN ANYONE EXPLIAN THE THINKING OF PUTTING UP A 32 YEAR OLD UNKNOWN. I WOULD LIKE TO HEAR WHAT THE THINKING WAS. IT SEEMS TO ME THAT THE DEMS ARE ASKING TO GET SWEPT IN TOB LAND.
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[TOB DEM SUP FACT]

The clerk lost support of the OB dem committee b/c she hired Gerry Twombly who made it clear that he was going use the race to blast the democratic leadership. Ask anyone who attended Matha's "campaign meeting". Twombly spent his whole time talking about his dislike of the party and zero time talking up Martha'a campaign. Again, Gerry is more interested in destroying the party than to re-elect his boss.

What real dem could support such an effort? Too bad for Martha, she would have made a good candidate. But so will current candidate. He will be a strong candiate, if you have ever met him you would know that.

[TOB LEADER]

I attended the campaign meeting referred to in the recent post. I don't recall that Twombly made any attack on anyone. My memory of the 2 late January meetings is several people spoke and Gerry's only comments were positive ones about Martha. I don't remember ANYONE mentioning chairman Jacobs or speaking critically of ANY Democrat.
There are some out there who live to hate and live to see fellow Democrats punished and tortured. Why not
spend some energy on electing people instead of hurting
each other. How is this constructive?

[OYSTER BAY GUY]

HOW CAN YOU SAY THAT THE DEM CANDIDATE FOR SUPV WILL BE A STRONG CANDIDATE. NO ONE KNOWS HIM, NO MONEY BEING SPENT AND HE HAS NOT BE SEEN OR HEARD FROM. ITS A PURE JOKE AND WILL HURT THE REST OF THE TICKET.
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[Listening]

You didn't hear any discussion on whether Martha would get support from the party and his comments regarding the chair??? He only said it over and over as he walked around talking to leaders.

I'm not beating up on him and think he does deserve a job somewhere in the party. But the fact remains Gerry can't complete a sentence without tearing into the chairman. And he has actively working to defeat the party's designiated candidates and in the process give back the legislature to the Republicans. Is that construcive???

[OYSTERGATE!! VENDITTO at]

Are the work of Ed and Marsha Shulroff trying to hold their patronage jobs. (BOE for Marsha $58,000 and Ed, who works for Stefanich $66,000). Its all about keeping their jobs!

[OB Dem Surprise]

I'm not arguing what Sammartino did was right or justifiable. However, the disk and the computer are not the personal belongings of Bonnie Eisler -- they belong to the Town of Oyster Bay. And furthermore, everyone keeps calling it her "political disk" -- why is she doing political things in a governmental office?? Doesn't really matter -- dead issue. Only those grasping at straws keep bringing it up. I still think issues need to be talked about; otherwise, this is a boring election with the Dems losing down the line.

[Denominator]

Remember, all of these reports are coming from an elected Councilwoman who sat on the Town Board dais and had the gall to lie to a roomful of residents about her voting record. And when she was confronted with the proof of her lie, she sat there stone-faced and silent. After almost two months, she still has not given any explanation or apologized to her constituents for her actions at that hearing on June 24th. So, let's take whatever is posted here with a large grain of salt and consider the source.

As far as the disk incident goes, no official report has said anything was stolen, no one else is being investigated, and no charges have been brought. A press advisory was distributed a few days early is what was done. Accessing the information was wrong but it is not even close to being as serious as is being portrayed here.

[Tax Man in OB]

That Jim Stefanich's sister is also on the Town Payroll in the TAX OFFICE?

[OysterBayDem]

When Jay Jacobs got involved and once again pre-determined who should be a candidate and for the TOB who should head the ticket - rather than listening to the voices of reason - his action was one a treachery so reminisent of that of Brutus's act. His decision lost the TOB to the Republicans - with no democrats being re-elected.

Thanks Jacobs.

[Row A]

[FBI GUY]

THE PICTURES ABOVE ALL BELONG IN THE POST OFFICE!

[DR KERVORKIAN]

I REST MY CASE!

[PhotoGuy]

Where is the Dems' photo? Now that I think about it, who ARE the Dems who are running in Oyster Bay? Does anyone know ANY of their names? I think the Supservisor is named something like Slobodan Milosevic from Locust Land and they have a couple of candidates from Bayville, Plainview and Syosset or Woodbury. Who are the candidates? Which ones are from Hicksville, or Massapequa or ANYWHERE south of Old Country Road?

[choosy]

Go to www.larryweiss.org and find a real choice for a council candidate!

Go get 'em, Larry!

[Dem From TOB]

Larry Weiss looks like a real candidate to me. Oyster Bay will have a real ticket this year. So stand by all you naysayers. You may just be in for a suprise.

[TOB Forever]

The Democratic slate in TOB is simply a joke. This will hurt the only two good Dem candidates, Offerman and Stefanich.

The Supervisor candidate, Slobos, is a zero. He offers nothing, hasn't campaigned and is probably the worst candidate ever put up by the Dems.

Eisler is hated by all and won't be re-elected. She has alienated all of her former supporters and they will actually campaign against her. Her strategy of ensuring that there are no decent dem candidates to take votes away from her will backfire. Her selfishness will hurt the entire democratic party for years to come.

Weiss and Burke offer nothing as well. It's a shame that Mary Mac will be the lone Dem in TOB land. All of the gains the Dems made in '99 and '01 will be lost. Serves them right for putting all their eggs in one basket, the Legislature.

[Laughing Voter]

Larrry Weiss seems to be looking to break Yogi's record for utterings. Read what this guy actually puts on his web site!

Quote:I was embarrassed by the behavior of many Republicans in office (not that some Democrats are all that much better, but they're not quite as embarrassing at the moment).Oh, we're so glad they're not as embarassing AT THE MOMENT, Larry. Thank you! I'm sure that your incumbent running mates appreciate the statement.
Quote:Affordable Housing for our Seniors. We absolutely positively need more, but we can't just slap housing units up anywhere. I don't claim to have all the answers, but I know this issue needs a whole lot of attention ... some smart planning ... and some smarter management.Now, THERE's a position for 'ya! It is about time we elected some people who have real ideas on what to do to solve problems! How silly of all of us not to realize the issue just needs "a whole lot of attention".
Quote:any and all decisions must deeply consider our environment, quality of life and economic sustainability, with an eye on such things as town planning, historic preservation, open space conservation, neighborhood development (and/or redevelopment) and social equity.WOW! Never have so many catch-phrases been lumped together in one single sentence. And this guy claims not to be a politician! Larry, you underestimate your ability to obfuscate issues!
On affordable housing:Quote:This issue is approaching crisis level. It can't be ignored any longer and it needs some serious addressing.Hmmm. "Some serious addressing" must be an even stronger solution than "a whole lot of attention!"

Are you Democrats high?? This is a REAL candidate? You're actually going to run on a platform of "Serious Addressing" and "A Whole Lot Of Attention"??? You're going to convince people to vote Democratic by saying "not that some Democrats are all that much better, but they're not quite as embarrassing at the moment"

"Come on, this guy is an absolute JOKE. Can anyone say "Republican landslide"?!

[Disgusted Democrat]

More of Larry's wisdom:Quote:The Town of Oyster Bay is in dire need of some sound management. It's time for some skilled business people to take the reins, rather than career politicians.Well, Larry, how about some examples.

Venditto eliminated the $30M deficit he inherited. The Town's bond rating is A-1. The parks and beaches have never looked better and major improvements are finally being made. The roads are in great shape. Summer concerts are still free. Even getting a picnic permit or a 'showmobile' is still free in Oyster Bay. Where there are fees, they are among the lowest of any Town or County in the area. And the budget is balanced. Even Lyin' Eisler had to admit that. So, where is the "dire need for some sound management," Larry?

There is one minor inconvenience thanks to Venditto: there are NO adult bookstores or video shops in Oyster Bay - you'll have to travel to Huntington or Babylon to find them.

This guy spouts virtually EVERY buzz-word, catch-phrase and smart-speak muttering known to man, AND he adds a few new ones like "a whole lot of attention" and "some serious addressing."

Larry, you said, "not that some Democrats are all that much better, but they're not quite as embarrassing at the moment." Well, you were wrong, Larry. YOU are that embarrassing at the moment! You are a JOKE that, unfortunately, is representative of the entire Oyster Bay Democratic ticket.

[Row A]

[Are They Conceding]

Can I assume by that campaign picture the reps are conceding the Clerk and Receiver race. Or do they find themselfs unable to show that half thier slate consists of callengers.

For all the rap the dems are recieving on this thread regarding their candidates this year, three have been elected in the past as Democrats. In addition, one of the pictured republican incumbant was elected as a Democrat.

[Row A]

[Row A]

The picture was one of the Town Board candidates. Since you asked, here's the Clerk and Receiver as well.

You are correct, one of the incumbent Republicans was elected as a Dem. Once elected and he got to spend time with them, he couldn't stand being with them. He has stated that he saw that Venditto and the Republicans in Oyster Bay were doing the right things for the residents of the Town and he was in agreement with their views.

Two of the Dems won because their opponents made bad decisions about accepting minor party endorsements. Stefanich and McCaffery should thank O'Leary and Symons respectively for their victories.

Offerman, Stefanich and Eisler are gone as of January 1. Mary is going to be very lonely without Bonnie there to tell her how to vote.

[OYSTER BAY GUY]

I STARTED THIS THREAD WITH A SIMPLE QUESTION. WHY HAVE THE DEMS GIVEN UP IN TOB, AS OF YET I HAVE STILL NOT RECEIVED AN ANSWER THAT MAKES SENSE. YOU CAN SEE THERE IS NO FIRE ON THE DEM SIDE , IT REALLY DOES LOOK LIKE A SWEEP IN PROGRESS.
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[Born Again GOPer]

IT'S NOT THAT THEY GAVE IT UP, THEY HAVE NO ONE TO RUN!
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[OIYSTER BAY GUY]

THATS A VERY WEAK EXCUSE. IT SAYS VOLUMES ABOUT THE DEMS IN TOB

[OB TRUTH]

TOWN DEMS WERE AMBUSHED,UNDERMINED AND SABATOGED FROM THE BEGINNING OF THE YEAR BY PARTY LEADERS.
IN SELLING OUT AND BETRAYING EVERY DEM BUT SUOZZI THEY ARE IRONICALLY SELLING HIM OUT TOO.
VERY SOON THEY WILL BE FEWER ELECTED DEMS TO DEFEND OR HELP SUOZZI.
THEY DID THEIR EVIL DEEDS FOR NO VALID REASONS.
R.I.P. IT MIGHT HAVE BEEN

[OYSTER BAY GUY]

I STARTED WITH THIS QUESTION A LONG TIME AGO AND OB THRUTH FINALLY CAME UP WITH AN ANSWER WHICH SEEMS TO MAKE SENSE, NOT BEING IN THE DEM PTY I COULDNT UNDERSTAND THE SURRENDER, OB THRUTH MAY HAVE SHINNED SOME LIGHT ON IT. THANKS
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[TOB Voter]

Any smart or good candidate has been ignored by the Dems. Also there is no Dem committee in TOB. Ask any committee person in TOB when the last meeting was. Probably 2-3 years ago. Besides, any one who runs on the Dem ticket has to deal with Eisler.

I hear that she vetoed any good candidate for fear they would take votes away from her.

[Row A]

Eisler had a Massapequa candidate REMOVED from the ballot because Her Majesty thought it would take votes away from her. The result is that the current Democratic ticket in Oyster Bay has candidates from Bayville, Locust Valley, Soysset, Woodbury and Plainview. The Dems have not even one candidate who lives south of Old Country Road.

[Hey OB Guy]

Your running a former Democratic, a former county legislator who was thrown out of office, a supervisor who four years ago almost lost to a candidate who didn't campaign, and a member of the state assembly who has done a thing while in Albany.

Your greated by a press release that reads:

Labriola Applauds Three-Way Agreement on Video Voyeurism Legislation

But as I read the press release I come to realize that he had nothing to do with the passage of the legislation he touts on his site. No mention of sponsonship, co-sponsorship or, even, multi-sponsorship. Just him "applauding" the passage. As a spectator would appaude a pass completed in a football game.

Then take a gander at his press release Page. One release reads:

Labriola Announces Patriot Plan Passes Both Houses and Will Be Signed By the Governor

No mention of sponsorship again. He just announces legislation passed by both houses of the legislature which is awaiting the executive's signiture. Much like an announcer would announce the aforementioned pass completion.

Oyster Bay doesn't need anymore Republican announcers or spectators but people who wil be players. Players who are able to pass good laws and fight for the residents of the town.

Please spare me the BS above and start talking about the positives of your candidates. That's if you can find any.

[OYSTER BAY GUY]

THE LAST POST IS SO SILLY, WHY NOT DISCUSS THE STRENGTH OF THE DEM TICKET, I GAURANTEE U THAT THE DEM SUPV CANDIDATE THAT NO ONE HAS EVER HEARD OF LOSES BY MORE THAN 10K VOTES. OFFERMAN KNOWS SHES FINISHED SHE HAS SAID SO. IT VERY WELL MAY BE A SWEEP. IT DIDNT MAKE SENSE FOR THE DEMS TO RUN SUCH A NOBAD
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[Mineola Mike]

had his ass handed to him in last weeks Massapequa Post.

check out their archives on the website.

[bunch of bull]

What are you talking about ?

The Massapequa Post is a Republican paper.

Were ia the story?
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[Jayson Blair]

It's good to see regular Dems are learning from Bonnie 'Lyin' Eisler. If you want to say something, and the facts don't support it, just make up new facts. Heck, I did it all the time. I looked for the Massapequa Post article too and couldn't find anything. So what? Just tell the people what they want to hear, if they're stupid enough to believe it, who cares?!

[Mineola Mike]

in the letters to the editor section. labriola gets slapped around. Is it suprising Carolyn James published the letter? yes it is.

[TOBGOP]

I just visited Larry Weiss' website. Nice, I guess. I liked the fact that he switched from being a Republican to a Democrat because the Democrats were less embarrassing at that moment. Trustworthy, huh? Elect him a Democrat and then maybe he'll switch if the Democrats embarrass him.

[Jayson Blair]

Hey, don't knock the guy. He may become the political version of Yogi Berra. Might be fun having him around. At least being feebleminded isn't as bad as being a liar like Lyin' Eisler. His quotes are more fun, too. My vote goes to replace Eisler with Weiss. Besides, I admire anyone who can get every buzzword and catchphrase into ONE concise paragraph. Just look at all of the things he strung together: "..environment, quality of life and economic sustainability, with an eye on such things as town planning, historic preservation, open space conservation, neighborhood development (and/or redevelopment) and social equity." Wow, getting in "social equity" was beautiful. There's something for EVERYBODY. Who couldn't find something to support in that sentence?! And he tries to tell us he's not a politician. Ha! Nice work Larry, you're my guy!

[TOB Voter]

The Dem Supervisor candidate is playing possum. You watch, he'll come out from under his rock roaring and give JV a real run for his money. He's actually in candidate school right now learing everything there is to know about TOB. And you watch, he will soon hold a press conference taking credit for all the good things others have done in Oyster Bay.

You watch, he'll soon have a web site explaining how he was the one who created Vision 20/20, saved the Underhill Property from development, proposed the environmental bond and single handedly convinced 70% of the voters to pass it, proposed the new moratorium and wrote the Aquifer Protection District legislation. Well all he has to do is copy Bonnie Eisler's web site. Afterall, if she can lie about all these things, why can't he. By the way, the candidate school he's attending is called "The Lying Eisler School of Deceit".

[OYSTER BAY GUY]

HOW CAN THE DEM PARTY DISLIKE OFFERMAN SO MUCH THAT THEY ARE WILLING TO LOSE THE ENTIRE TICKET. I DONT UNDERSTAND THAT TYPE OF THINKING. PARTY INTEREST SHOULD COME FIRST FROM THE PARTY LEADERSHIP.
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[TOB Observer]

to the Dem chairman and his click than winning elections.
Look at the recent history:
1) undermines Martha's support to push her out of what would have been a competitive Supervisor run
2) recruits young newcomer with no money no experience and no following to replace her at top of ticket
3)allocates no funds to help elect any Dem in Town
4)runs the party as if it were his personal enterprise,accountable to one
5)created rift with Dorothy Goosby wasting time and money in court actions to deny her a ballot position and then waging sneak attack in primary for a candidate who had already withdrawn.
Get it? He is chairman of only those Dems he likes.
Those he can't control, he betrays.
thats why the 3 Dem incumbents are toast.

[OB Dem fact]

You state the Following:
HOW CAN THE DEM PARTY DISLIKE OFFERMAN SO MUCH THAT THEY ARE WILLING TO LOSE THE ENTIRE TICKET. I DONT UNDERSTAND THAT TYPE OF THINKING. PARTY INTEREST SHOULD COME FIRST FROM THE PARTY LEADERSHIP.

Although I don't agree with your statement that that the party dislikes Martha, you statement regarding party interest should be addressed. Martha hired an assistant who worked against several democratic candidates. She allowed him to wage a campaign against the democratic party and its candidates while on her payroll. Your right that the party comes first. Tell Martha, not us.

[OYSTER BAY GUY]

Now I see it. I didnt know that Martha spit in the Party eye. Thanks for your response. So she is responsible for her own demise.
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[Brookville Boy]

Martha's campaign for supervisor was sabotaged before her staff tried to sabotage other Democratic candidates by circulating petitions forcing them to go through a primary for the nomination. I didn't like what Martha allowed her staff to do on her watch but I understand why she did not try to stop it.

[Denis Holland helped sabo]

I thought Marsha Shulroff pulled all the strings and that Holland was a mere figurehead. Am I wrong?

[Massapequa Mike]

If she'd campaign in a two piece bikini, she'd get my vote!

She needs more exposure!!!

[Plainview Pete]

I haven't seen Bonnie in one,but I understand
Jim Stefanich looks fantastic in his 2 piece.
He wears it in tax due days.
People don't mind paying taxes when the Receiver is a hottie.

[Opie and Anthony]

We heard that John Canning stops traffic in his two piece deluxe with thong.

Canning should win this batte of the cheese cake, hands down!

[OYSTER BAY GUY]

THE DEM TEAM HAS DONE NOTHING. THEY HAVE DONE FAR LESS THAN I WOULD HAVE THOUGHT. EISLER AND STEFANICH HAVE A SHOT TO HANG ON, BUT MERE STREET SIGNS WONT DO IT FOR THEM. i ALSO THINK THAT THE TAX SHOCK WILL FURTHER HURT STEFANICH. PEOPLE MAY BLAME EITHER PARTY, BUT STEFANICH CANT BENEFIT FROM IT, IT CAN ONLY HURT HIM. VERY POSSIBLE SWEEP IN THE WORKS.
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[Bill Broom]

Brace yourselves for massive GOP landslides in TOB
Dem incumbents who should win reelection will be
swept away like canoes in a tsunami.
Venditto 2:1
The shame for the Dems is they were sold out at the top.

[smally]

my good friend Tommy found new LI political sites

631politics.com and 516politics.com

i told him it's great not to be banned and censored

[OysterBay]

Jacobs lost Oyster Bay for the Dems - this from the former Town Leader and the Party Chair. If the California governor can be re-called- why not Jacobs - he's a joke and a disgrace to those who walk petitions for candidates for office.

He has done more to turn more Dems into republicans and independents than anyone else. Clean out the house - get rid of him and the vice chairs.

[OYSTER BAY GUY]

LIKE MANY WERE SAYING THE OUTCOME WAS NO SUPRISE. THE DEMS REALLY TOOK IT ON THE CHIN IN TOB
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