Bs Workforce Cuts

[DISGUSTED JOBLESS GOPER]

Mangano's Press Release Talks On And On About Workforce Cuts Yet The Suozzi Era Holdovers Still Have Their Freaking Jobs & More Than 60% Are Employed By Ciampoli.

Who The Hell Did He Claim To Get Rid Of? Only The Ones That Retired Of Their Own Volition And Off The Sweat Of The Nassau Taxpayers For Big Retirement Payouts.

All The Press Releases In The World Won't Change It.

Hoping For A Nifa Takeover On December 21st.

[His friends have jobs]

Nice how Mangano gave jobs to all his buddies - still has useless agencies like sports, arts, casa, minority affairs, senior citizens instead of merging them all together - took care of felons, outsiders, his family, his neighbors - and after giving them all jobs - now he says there's a hiring freeze.

He allowed all the Suozzi appointees to stay, allowed all the promotions and last minute civil service jobs created for Suozzi people to get tenured, permitted raises to go through - and now he says there's a hiring freeze.

As transparent as his weak attempt to move the county debt to the schools & towns --- either way the taxpayers get killed.

But Mangano & his bunch of grapes reap the benefits.

Why's Newsday so quiet ?????????????

[Community Development]

OCA is another bullshit agency Mangano is staffing that is completely non essential. Like intergovernmental affairs. Like having an HR department separate from all the HR people in each agency. And how come only Spanish Americans get their own Community Agency? What about everyone else?

How many contracts did he issue -- especially without legislative approval - before he decided to cut out outside contractors?

I think the only reason for his press release about cutting out "excess" management is that he ran out of money after hiring all his goombas and decided to let the Suozzi people keep raping the public troll.

[county guarantee]

Another law Mangano will ask the County Legislature to pass is one ending the “County Guarantee.” That would ensure that all jurisdictions that receive taxpayer money in error share proportionately in the refund. Currently, the refunds come from the County no matter which municipality received the taxes. That change alone will save taxpayers $80 million per year and stop the growth of debt associated with the broken system.

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So Bethpage gets all its home underassessed while Syosset has a higher number of overassessed homes. Syosset homeowners fight their assessment and wins. Instead of the refunds coming from the County, Syosset bears the brunt of the injustice while Bethpage doesn't. Seems like double punishment. Mangano actually managed to find a way to destroy Nassau County from inside. Mangano wants to create wars between towns, villages and cities - pitting one jurisdiction up against another. The more a particular household suffers an injustice of overtaxation - the more overtaxed they get.

Manganomics -- economics for idiots

Suozzi man - can you come back?????????

[guess what Pete]

http://libertysflame.com/cgi-bin/readart.cgi?ArtNum=15832

They're complaining the red light cameras aren't bringing in enough money & are paying out more money to suozzi's contractors to get more up and running.

Did they ever think that maybe its not the cameras - its that people are stopping (short) at yellow lights now cos they know the county has surveillance cameras all over the place?

They're complaining the sales tax isn't bringing in enough money.

Did they ever think that since there's no jobs here - the commuters are shopping in the City & Queens where the tax is cheaper - or going into Jersey & PA for major purchases? The higher the sales tax in Nassau goes - the less revenue they'll get. People that can afford it will shop elsewhere. The poor people with the least disposable incomes will be the only ones stuck in Nassau.

But that's ok. Without the buses - they'll have to shop online at their public libraries. Oh wait - the libraries will close down under the weight of the new taxes hitting them once Mangano transfers the burden of the tax assessment refunds to them.

At least one year is down. The democrats are laughing their asses off at the republicans. And most of them are doing it from county jobs.

[Guest1275]

Another law Mangano will ask the County Legislature to pass is one ending the “County Guarantee.” That would ensure that all jurisdictions that receive taxpayer money in error share proportionately in the refund. Currently, the refunds come from the County no matter which municipality received the taxes. That change alone will save taxpayers $80 million per year and stop the growth of debt associated with the broken system.

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So Bethpage gets all its home underassessed while Syosset has a higher number of overassessed homes. Syosset homeowners fight their assessment and wins. Instead of the refunds coming from the County, Syosset bears the brunt of the injustice while Bethpage doesn't. Seems like double punishment. Mangano actually managed to find a way to destroy Nassau County from inside. Mangano wants to create wars between towns, villages and cities - pitting one jurisdiction up against another. The more a particular household suffers an injustice of overtaxation - the more overtaxed they get.

Manganomics -- economics for idiots

Suozzi man - can you come back?????????

The law was already passed, but should have been 20 years ago. Half of the County's budget goes to paying refunds.

Hope you're happy.

[fix the system]

The law was already passed, but should have been 20 years ago. Half of the County's budget goes to paying refunds.

Hope you're happy.

No I'm not happy. I wanted the system fixed. Mangano is worried about paying refunds when he should be worried about equalizing the system to stop the judgments. So the taxpayers still get screwed with out of control taxes - all he cares about is paying the judgements - not coming up with a system that actually rewards homeownership affordability.

[cops & sheriffs]

My favorite part is that their not cutting cops or sheriffs - the 2 biggest drains on the county budget.

Does Mangano still relate to floor cleaners - maybe he's hiring them as essential services. Shovel the shit out to the people on his internet news channel faster than his PR people can.

[Unregisteredsourgrapes]

My favorite part is that their not cutting cops or sheriffs - the 2 biggest drains on the county budget.

Does Mangano still relate to floor cleaners - maybe he's hiring them as essential services. Shovel the shit out to the people on his internet news channel faster than his PR people can.

Oh boo hoo. I couldn't pass the police exam boo hoo

[98 percentile]

Oh boo hoo. I couldn't pass the police exam boo hoo

I know people who are way up in the percentiles - they couldn't get hired because they didn't have enough political juice to pull them through and a few who would have been hired had to step off because they weren't minority.

[tax judgements]

No I'm not happy. I wanted the system fixed. Mangano is worried about paying refunds when he should be worried about equalizing the system to stop the judgments. So the taxpayers still get screwed with out of control taxes - all he cares about is paying the judgements - not coming up with a system that actually rewards homeownership affordability.

Not stopping them by stripping people of their constitutional right to access the courts if settlement negotiations aren't satisfactory - but stopping them by bringing property taxes down to a more affordable level by restructuring the formula they used to apportion taxes & accounting for the drop in value over the past few years & preventing raising values to once again - send property taxes sky high. But that would take actual work & some competent people to achieve.

I hope Fred Brewington's taxes are killing him - and his little friends from Roosevelt too.

[intergovernmental wars]

Another law Mangano will ask the County Legislature to pass is one ending the “County Guarantee.” That would ensure that all jurisdictions that receive taxpayer money in error share proportionately in the refund. Currently, the refunds come from the County no matter which municipality received the taxes. That change alone will save taxpayers $80 million per year and stop the growth of debt associated with the broken system.

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So Bethpage gets all its home underassessed while Syosset has a higher number of overassessed homes. Syosset homeowners fight their assessment and wins. Instead of the refunds coming from the County, Syosset bears the brunt of the injustice while Bethpage doesn't. Seems like double punishment. Mangano actually managed to find a way to destroy Nassau County from inside. Mangano wants to create wars between towns, villages and cities - pitting one jurisdiction up against another. The more a particular household suffers an injustice of overtaxation - the more overtaxed they get.

Manganomics -- economics for idiots

Suozzi man - can you come back?????????

Then you have to start filing class action lawsuits by the neighborhood - foil all the statistics for neighborhoods you consider similiarly situated to yours and start comparing your home - not to the home down the street - but similar home values in the neigborhood outside your jurisdiction and file even more lawsuits when you find your house is paying alot more tax than a similar house in a similar neighborhood. The whole neighborhood would have to sue the county for misapportioning their taxes and overcharging their portion of taxes due to the original discriminatory tax assessment.

Yup - that'll fix the system allright.

[Unregistered33]

I know people who are way up in the percentiles - they couldn't get hired because they didn't have enough political juice to pull them through and a few who would have been hired had to step off because they weren't minority.

The world needs ditch diggers too.

[euducator]

The world needs ditch diggers too.

The world also needs teachers but that doesn't mean we need $100,000 teachers working `maybe 200 days a year. Its like the tax assessments - all the way up - now we got to find a way to bring them all the way down. The county and the school districts fighting doesnt help the taxpayer - nobody cares who they pay their taxes to - its all coming out of the same checking account. Maybe consolidating management lines is the answer with a board of educators voted in by district. One superintendent of schools who has to report to a county wide board where the members are voted in by the school district's taxpayers. a microcosm of the county.

[Unregisteredok]

The world needs ditch diggers too.

and lets hire three times as many ditch diggers to dig ditches we dont need and pay our ditchdiggers twice as much as the ditch diggers that actually dig ditches like those in NYC Chicago, Detroit Boston Or LA

[inside man]

Nice how Mangano gave jobs to all his buddies - still has useless agencies like sports, arts, casa, minority affairs, senior citizens instead of merging them all together - took care of felons, outsiders, his family, his neighbors - and after giving them all jobs - now he says there's a hiring freeze.

He allowed all the Suozzi appointees to stay, allowed all the promotions and last minute civil service jobs created for Suozzi people to get tenured, permitted raises to go through - and now he says there's a hiring freeze.

As transparent as his weak attempt to move the county debt to the schools & towns --- either way the taxpayers get killed.

But Mangano & his bunch of grapes reap the benefits.

Why's Newsday so quiet ?????????????

I have no clue what sports or arts agencies youre talking about. Those don't exist. If you mean ART, that stands for ASSESSMENT REVIEW TEAM, and its part of the office of assessment.

a merger bill is going before the leg to put senior citizens affairs together with Youth Board, Mental Health, Chemical Dependency and a bunch of other agencies. http://www.nassaucountyny.gov/agencies/CountyExecutive/NewsRelease/2010/12-16-2010b.htm

So what family did Ed Mangano give jobs to? None that I know of.

I know youre referring to Herb Flores when you say felons, and John Ciampoli and Brian Nevin when you say outsiders (both of which are Long Islanders who worked in Albany and came back for Ed), but who are the neighbors? The Nassau County residents he gave jobs to? Exaggeration anyone?

So, how many Suozzi employees were kept? Not that many. Everyone knows that when you take over you can't just decapitate and move on...you need to keep people around for transition purposes...especially for institutional knowledge...something that not many people of Ed's people had going in. I know many people are complaining about the County Attorney having Suozzi people still in it, but I seem to remember Ed firing a bunch back in March. Like I said, you can't get rid of everyone (or you get called out on giving all your friends patronage jobs...you really can't win, can you?)

Further, he's not "moving the county debt to the school and towns" but rather forcing them to fairly pay what everyone else in the county already pays. If the superintendents would just take a pay cut (one that would stop them from getting a new expensive car this year OH NO!), then there wouldnt be anything thrown back on the people.

[Inside Something]

I have no clue what sports or arts agencies youre talking about. Those don't exist. If you mean ART, that stands for ASSESSMENT REVIEW TEAM, and its part of the office of assessment.

a merger bill is going before the leg to put senior citizens affairs together with Youth Board, Mental Health, Chemical Dependency and a bunch of other agencies. http://www.nassaucountyny.gov/agencies/CountyExecutive/NewsRelease/2010/12-16-2010b.htm

So what family did Ed Mangano give jobs to? None that I know of.

I know youre referring to Herb Flores when you say felons, and John Ciampoli and Brian Nevin when you say outsiders (both of which are Long Islanders who worked in Albany and came back for Ed), but who are the neighbors? The Nassau County residents he gave jobs to? Exaggeration anyone?

So, how many Suozzi employees were kept? Not that many. Everyone knows that when you take over you can't just decapitate and move on...you need to keep people around for transition purposes...especially for institutional knowledge...something that not many people of Ed's people had going in. I know many people are complaining about the County Attorney having Suozzi people still in it, but I seem to remember Ed firing a bunch back in March. Like I said, you can't get rid of everyone (or you get called out on giving all your friends patronage jobs...you really can't win, can you?)

Further, he's not "moving the county debt to the school and towns" but rather forcing them to fairly pay what everyone else in the county already pays. If the superintendents would just take a pay cut (one that would stop them from getting a new expensive car this year OH NO!), then there wouldnt be anything thrown back on the people.

You must be the most outside the loop inside man around. Suozzi patronage is still on the payroll after almost a year. There are departments where they're hanging from the rafters. A vast majority of these Suozzi hacks are not essential to the running of the departmens and why they are still collection a paycheck is one big unaswered question to those who watch in disgust after what is now coming on a year. To make a claim that they were fired is absurd and an outright lie. You fool only yourself and no one else.

[Unregistered90pouljy]

The law was already passed, but should have been 20 years ago. Half of the County's budget goes to paying refunds.

Hope you're happy.

It's going to lead to lawsuits against the County by all these School Districts, Towns, Villages, Libraries, etc
They are going to argue that the County F'ed up the Assessment and the County should pay the refund and a Judge will ultimately agree: Just watch and see this happen in a couple of years.

And even if the Law lives up to unsuccessful challenges, it is not going to save Taxpayers any money anyway: It just shifts the Tax Refund Burden around.

Mangano and Suozzi both could (have) fix(ed) the Assessment system. But neither wants their Lawyer Buddy Firms to lose the money they make fighting Assessments. There is big $ to be made and they also rely on their Political Contributions.

[LI Pressidente]

I have no clue what sports or arts agencies youre talking about. Those don't exist. If you mean ART, that stands for ASSESSMENT REVIEW TEAM, and its part of the office of assessment.

a merger bill is going before the leg to put senior citizens affairs together with Youth Board, Mental Health, Chemical Dependency and a bunch of other agencies. http://www.nassaucountyny.gov/agencies/CountyExecutive/NewsRelease/2010/12-16-2010b.htm

So what family did Ed Mangano give jobs to? None that I know of.

I know youre referring to Herb Flores when you say felons, and John Ciampoli and Brian Nevin when you say outsiders (both of which are Long Islanders who worked in Albany and came back for Ed), but who are the neighbors? The Nassau County residents he gave jobs to? Exaggeration anyone?

So, how many Suozzi employees were kept? Not that many. Everyone knows that when you take over you can't just decapitate and move on...you need to keep people around for transition purposes...especially for institutional knowledge...something that not many people of Ed's people had going in. I know many people are complaining about the County Attorney having Suozzi people still in it, but I seem to remember Ed firing a bunch back in March. Like I said, you can't get rid of everyone (or you get called out on giving all your friends patronage jobs...you really can't win, can you?)

Further, he's not "moving the county debt to the school and towns" but rather forcing them to fairly pay what everyone else in the county already pays. If the superintendents would just take a pay cut (one that would stop them from getting a new expensive car this year OH NO!), then there wouldnt be anything thrown back on the people.

Ha ha ha ha ha - this has to be the PR girl from Newsday. At the guy from the LI Press pretends to print facts. This is all crap. We all know who is still around running things. We also know that the termination lists in March were all rescinded - in fact - people who were told they were being fired then are still working now - not just working - but managing and hiring and evaluating the people that did get hired. You think we're idiots reading these posts? PR baby is not going to help this rat boat from sinking full of holdovers. Oh and if you had a clue - you'd know - decapitate is precisely and exactly what suozzi did and it worked pretty damn well for him. And his people are still freaking on the payroll.

[Inside Man]

You must be the most outside the loop inside man around. Suozzi patronage is still on the payroll after almost a year. There are departments where they're hanging from the rafters. A vast majority of these Suozzi hacks are not essential to the running of the departmens and why they are still collection a paycheck is one big unaswered question to those who watch in disgust after what is now coming on a year. To make a claim that they were fired is absurd and an outright lie. You fool only yourself and no one else.

Of course people were kept. They were kept for institutional knowledge. But many were let go. I was one of the people who handed the Suozzi appointees in County Attorney their notice to get out. And I haven't seen them since. You got name of people still on? There are some, of course. Jose Lopez is still in Parks. But the vast majority have been replaced by Mangano's people over the course of the year.

And that's why Al DAmato's daughter has a position...because we got rid of the Suozzi guy.

[Inside Man]

and here's a link from right when Ed took office:

http://www.newsday.com/long-island/nassau/mangano-to-fire-160-nassau-county-appointees-1.1667776

[names? again?]

Of course people were kept. They were kept for institutional knowledge. But many were let go. I was one of the people who handed the Suozzi appointees in County Attorney their notice to get out. And I haven't seen them since. You got name of people still on? There are some, of course. Jose Lopez is still in Parks. But the vast majority have been replaced by Mangano's people over the course of the year.

And that's why Al DAmato's daughter has a position...because we got rid of the Suozzi guy.

People have posted a ton of names of people still working for the county already all over this site. Try reading it. FYI- hiring someone as commissioner to run a senior citizens agency when her only experience was working in an insurance agency isn't exactly a genius move to boast about. And don't even start that institutional bullshit crap. The people with institutional knowledge - alot of county experience - were fired by these Suozzi people who weren't qualified for their jobs and didn't know a damned thing -there's nothing institutional about their knowledge - they hunted and pecked their way through 8 years and did nothing but spend their way into a black abyss of tangled messes. You want THEM to train & supervise the new people? The people who wanted to come back into the county were the ones with the knowledge - some lingered while training the Suozzi people then when their usefulness was over - got dumped without notice. Some even got raises to stay and then got dumped anyway by these lying, back stabbing phony fakes. Whole departments with these people are still there - if you fired Suozzi people from the County Attorneys office - you missed whole entire departments - including Senior Staff, Bureau chiefs, Deputy Bureau Chiefs & Senior Counsel. IF you fired so many Suozzi people, then why are so many republicans furious with the administration? Its everywhere you go - everyone you talk to. Everyone knows holdovers who survived, while they are still outside the loop. It seems like inside man needs to learn the meaning of the word holdover and better double check that payroll because somehow, somewhere - there is a big big communication problem.

[cant read GOPER]

and here's a link from right when Ed took office:

http://www.newsday.com/long-island/nassau/mangano-to-fire-160-nassau-county-appointees-1.1667776

Any real republican dumped their newsday subscription years ago and can't read the online stories . If this is the article about how many people were fired - dont' flatter yourself. We may be outsiders - but we know enough insiders to know that most of those were vacancies that weren't filled and that other people retired of their own volition without any pressure. People were allowed to stay for a year after being told they were being fired. In fact were told they could even come back later as consultants. We also know that the people who got fired were conservatives who directly opposed Mangano and a few rogue republicans got fired or demoted for reasons still unclear. But several holdovers - democrats - people that got hired and put up Suozzi posters in their offices - are still there. Not just still there, but came to bat for many of their cronies who were supposidly on those termination lists and won many, many concessions saving their friend's jobs all over the county. While they took merely $3000 or $4000 pay cuts to keep their jobs - (in excess of $80,000) - the republicans got hired at half their salaries - entry level salaries and at lower levels. And many, many that were promised jobs - more qualified for the positions that the holdovers ever were - never got them. The mish mash that's left has killed morale - both within the county job structure - and within the party rank and file.

[That's a joker]

Of course people were kept. They were kept for institutional knowledge. But many were let go. I was one of the people who handed the Suozzi appointees in County Attorney their notice to get out. And I haven't seen them since. You got name of people still on? There are some, of course. Jose Lopez is still in Parks. But the vast majority have been replaced by Mangano's people over the course of the year.

And that's why Al DAmato's daughter has a position...because we got rid of the Suozzi guy.

The institutional knowledge left with Gulotta. Suozzi came in and wiped out people with 20 years of county experience without blinking an eye. The county attorney's hiring manager is a 2006 democrat appointed lawyer and their chief of litigation still remains. Almost all the lawyers in family court, including the Bureau Chief & Deputy Bureau Chief, are Reinharz picks and if you think they have any institutional knowledge - ask around. Better yet - look at how much family & matrimonal law or social services experience the Bureau Chief had before Reinharz tapped her. Nada. Ask around about her Deputy snake. Go down the line. You still have the same attorneys that were farmed out to social services, the assessor's office, the jail, the sheriff's office and the medical center. You have nobody in consumer affairs and the health department was hijacked as well. Torts and employment remain largely unchanged with another attorney-democrat from employment farmed out to HR. You got rid of the only departments that were there to bring in money but failed to consolidate real estate, municipal or bring capable people into federal litigation where the county has been losing its shirt. The Department of Social Services has seen no change and next to the Police and the Medical Center - is one of the biggest budget busters in the County. Mangano's "people" surround him in his headquarters, but otherwise those "people" who worked through the republican club on his behalf are nowhere else to be found except in a few entry level jobs tossed to them where most of them are reporting to holdovers and all of them were interviewed by the hiring attorney and the managing attorney - who was a NYC democrat brought in by Goodman & was tapped for the County Attorney's transition team until he decided to retire on his own accord a month ago. Don't try to tell us what's been done. We know what's been done. There was a decision to protect the holdovers at the expense of the supporters and job qualifications and ability haven't had a thing to do with it - line by line.

[thanks dot]

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[Dan]

Just helping Dan get to takeover the County Attorney's office like he thought he would.