Camp Taylor Ill

[Dissing Jay Pays]

No this is not a camp in PA.

Its a camp on the south shore of Oyster Bay that houses more county employees than the county jail during a lockdown. As a matter of fact they collectively earn over $250,000 a year on the county doll as a reward for supporting the chair and his tickets.

But he has learned - as all chairs have in the past - that they do not always toe the party's irrational line. During the vote for DA the zones controlled by this most favored family split their vote. While all other county employees supported the party's choice, nothwithstand the fact that most earn much less then they do.

Hey Jay why not give raises all around for their disloyalty. That's would only be consistant with the way you have run the party over the last 4 years.

What a joke this party has become.

No this is not a camp in PA.

Its a camp on the south shore of Oyster Bay that houses more county employees than the county jail during a lockdown. As a matter of fact they collectively earn over $250,000 a year on the county doll as a reward for supporting the chair and his tickets.

But he has learned - as all chairs have in the past - that they do not always toe the party's irrational line. During the vote for DA the zones controlled by this most favored family split their vote. While all other county employees supported the party's choice, nothwithstand the fact that most earn much less then they do.

Hey Jay why not give raises all around for their disloyalty. That's would only be consistant with the way you have run the party over the last 4 years.

What a joke this party has become.

Its Camp Tyler Hill.

[Timber Faked]

No this is not a camp in PA.

Its a camp on the south shore of Oyster Bay that houses more county employees than the county jail during a lockdown. As a matter of fact they collectively earn over $250,000 a year on the county doll as a reward for supporting the chair and his tickets.

But he has learned - as all chairs have in the past - that they do not always toe the party's irrational line. During the vote for DA the zones controlled by this most favored family split their vote. While all other county employees supported the party's choice, nothwithstand the fact that most earn much less then they do.

Hey Jay why not give raises all around for their disloyalty. That's would only be consistant with the way you have run the party over the last 4 years.

What a joke this party has become.

Its Camp Tyler Hill.

Your correct that Camp Tyler Hill is in PA but Camp Taylor Hill is in Massapequa. Unlike Tyler Hill which Jay has control he has lost control over Taylor Hill. Although I believe he has more salaries being paid to the Oyster Bay camp. Also much like the camp in PA the residents of this camp come from outside of Oyster Bay.

[CORRECTION JJ]

Camp Taylor is in Amityville - Suffolk County!

How can you punish someone for accurately reporting how their committee people voted? That's insane.

[Insanity Party]

How can you punish someone for accurately reporting how their committee people voted? That's insane.

Welcome to the Nassau Democratic Party. Just ask how many committee people were set to vote against Rocco Ianarelli to prevent their zone leader from getting in trouble at work.

They are not afforded all the jobs they because their committee people freely vote at conventions.

[crazyenough]

Even Mike Santoramo accurately reported a vote for Kouril. How can JJ punish anyone else?

[Wayne]

The other day the Democratic Party had it’s convention – hoping to have presented a slate that was universally accepted by the County Committee and thereby reflect a display of strength and unity. Apparently that wasn’t the case for all offices – and the call of disloyalty resounds. But the question is – disloyal to whom or to what?

Loyalty to one’s principles isn’t simply standing behind the Chair or CE or any elected official in whatever action he or she chooses to take and blindly following that action or decision. These are true marks of not loyalty but disloyalty.

It’s wonderful to get caught up in political conventions and back room intrigue but we can’t loose sight of what true loyalty is. Loyalty to one’s convictions is as powerful as any emotion held and it is something that can never be taken away by any Party Chairman.

You need to ask yourself, if what you see is a display of loyalty of conviction – or merely a facade, a charade, a false mask so others do not accuse one of being disloyal.

I’ve attended conventions and been a member of the executive committee and I’ve had this Chairman shake my hand claiming his support when I held a leadership position to find it fleeting – and yet in the wake of this or any election, a fear develops within the leadership of the county. This fear doesn’t have a face— and perhaps that is why it is so prevalent. It is the fear leadership has of betrayal within the ranks, the fear of being attacked by committee people who are supposed allies because they tend to vote their convictions.

As a result, every person is eyed with suspicion, wondering if they can be trusted – or are they disloyal. Some tend to forget – committee people are elected by their election district to represent the best interests of those democrats residing in that district – not the Chairman’s interests – not the CE’s or anyone else.

I’m not aware of how the voting went – but for those that expressed their personal convictions and those that allowed them to express those convictions – keeping the needs of the democrats in the EDs they represent in mind – over the interests and express desires of the Chair or the CE – they have reflected not only loyalty but the true spirit of the political process and the manifestation of what constitutes a loyal committee person.

[observa]

Cindy Kouril had barely 40 votes when the voting was finally stopped at the convention. Kathleen Rice had over 350. Yeah, there was a whisper of support for Cindy, but none in Glen Cove, her home base, and very little everywhere else.

Cindy knows where she failed to build the support of the leadership. She had a year head start on any other Dillon challenger but did little to raise money or build a winning team. She was full of excuses and stories.

When you have Mark Finkel acting like an idiot at a convention for you, you should realize its time to re-evaluate your position. The Cindy Show has jumped the shark, its time to pull the plug.

[The Truth About Finkel]

Hes not an idiot. A putz maybe, but not an idiot.

[Tug of war Kim]

If you are referring to the tug of war Finkle had with Kim over the balloons-- It was Kim who looked like an idiot trying to stifle free expression. Just because Rice has no volunteers and no money and no organization and barely got out one xeroxed mailing even with all the support staff at Schlessinger's firm to do her mailing, does not mean that Kim and the interns she is tryiong to turn into flying monkeys needed to behave in such an ugly way.

This only bleeds all over Tom.

Helene and Marge Suozzi were the women most responsible for TS's 2001 win. Kim is just using him to get to DC. Thing is, SHE's the biggest reason he might not get there at all.

[Kimmy and Finkel]

Two beauts. Enuf said.

[Manhasset Dem]

Cindy Kouril had barely 40 votes when the voting was finally stopped at the convention. Kathleen Rice had over 350. Yeah, there was a whisper of support for Cindy, but none in Glen Cove, her home base, and very little everywhere else.

Cindy knows where she failed to build the support of the leadership. She had a year head start on any other Dillon challenger but did little to raise money or build a winning team. She was full of excuses and stories.

When you have Mark Finkel acting like an idiot at a convention for you, you should realize its time to re-evaluate your position. The Cindy Show has jumped the shark, its time to pull the plug.

I was at the convention. Voting on the DA position was not done in numerical order. It was done to maximize votes for Rice while suppressing areas which were very much for Ms. Kouril. To write that because of one skewed vote at a convention, where many delegates faced intense pressure to toe the party line, means that Cindy should withdraw is nonsense. The writer obviously forgets the 2001 NCDC Convention and the fact that it doesn't matter if a delegate votes for a particular person, it is who a committee person actually works for that counts. In the final analysis, the Democrats of Nassau County will make the final decision on Rice and Farrell. Rice and Farrell will not win in a primary because the people will be able to understand that they are Jay's fall guys. It is high time that the Democratic Party fight the Republicans, not those who disagree with the party leadership's "Deal of the Month."