Democrats' Plan for Sixth Borough Laid Bare!

Well, the fix is in. And we’re all eff’ed. Roger Corbin (D-Westbury), on North Hempstead TV’s “Talk of the Town” [Tuesday May 31, 2005 9:00PM on Local Access Cable channel], publicly praised Steinway Street in Astoria as a model for Nassau County property development. He mentioned that such urbanization is currently happening in Westbury Village and New Cassell – going so far as to praise Westbury Mayor Ernest Strada (R-Westbury) for packing as many people as he can into the smallest space. Corbin further praised the urbanization of Nassau by advocating that the “Lighthouse”, Charles Wang’s 60-story monstrosity be built as soon as possible. He said that the county needed such development. He stated that this is Suozzi’s plan and he can’t wait to see it come to pass.

On other topics, Corbin spoke of the county’s homeless population and advocated more shelters as well as passing legislation allowing the county to deny business to hospitals that won’t bear the burden of treating any homeless who might walk in. He said that the Medical Center shouldn’t have to bear most of the burden of caring for the poor and indigent. When was the last time you saw homeless in the vicinity of St. Francis, LIJ or Winthrop? Do we now ship them around the county?

Corbin also spoke of building more senior housing to entice seniors out of their homes and into “homes”. He said that this measure would go a long way towards resolving the illegal apartment crisis since seniors would no longer have to rent rooms in order to afford their domiciles.

With the Democrats and Republicans both steering the county towards urbanization and higher taxes, what are the suburban taxpayers, those who really want a suburban environment, to do? For whom do we vote? Or do we all move so that Roger Bogsted (C-Who cares?) can get an affordable home for his daughter?

[Civic guy]

You said:
"...that the Medical Center shouldn’t have to bear most of the burden of caring for the poor and indigent. When was the last time you saw homeless in the vicinity of St. Francis, LIJ or Winthrop? Do we now ship them around the county? "

No, Guest, they don't "ship" homeless people, that would make them "cargo," not homeless people.

And the last time I saw "them" in/around St. Francis, LIJ, or Winthrop?
That had to have been, oh, six hours ago, as ALL LI HOSPITALS have to treat whomever presents themselves for care, it's the law - 'cause if they don't they could jeopardize their tax-exempt status.

Can you imagine what the property tax bill for the chicchic NOrth Shore Hospital in Greatneck would be??

Betcha they'd stop doin' "valet parking" if that happened.

So stop watching public access in your basement den, and get out more often, and yeah, if this place starts looking like Stienway Street, so move already!

So stop watching public access in your basement den, and get out more often, and yeah, if this place starts looking like Stienway Street, so move already!

Civic guy sounds jealous of the wealthy. Don't be so quick to think Great Neck wouldn't accept a heavier tax burden if they could legally keep out the "Great Unwashed". Anyway, I'm sure Gorbin didn't advocate shipping homeless around just as I'm certain every area hospital treats anyone who shows up. I'll have to watch the show myself to hear what was really said. When is it repeated?

Civic guy also must live in one of the more urban areas of Nassau to so readily dismiss a fight over the urbanization of Nassau. No one should have to move. We must all fight against making Nassau the sixth borough.

Lastly, continue to watch public access TV. Our elected officials should never get a "bye" when making public statements, even if those statements are made on propaganda programs. The truth always bubbles to the surface.

[Snoopie Dog]

In Cobrin's mind all of Nassau should look like Hempstead, Freeport, New Cassel and Roosevelt. Corbin has no use for the burbs and those who are the majority of it's population. Corbin would like to ghetto out the county to the schnizzle.

[Bandaid and Ship em out]

Before you start dissing someone else, you should check your statements - especially before you go giving legal advice.

All hospitals have to accept EMERGENCY CASES ONLY, regardless of insurance, BUT ONLY TO STABILIZE THE PATIENT. They don't have to keep them, admit them, operate on them or do anything else UNLESS it would be life threatening to ship out the patient. If some doctor sticks a bandaid on a gapping wound and deems the patient fit for transfer - a private hospital has an absolute right to ship the patient out to a public facility - NCMC.

It's called patient dumping, but it's legal.

So... what about the support shown for urbanization in Nassau?

What support?

So... what about the support shown for urbanization in Nassau?

What support?

So... what about the support shown for urbanization in Nassau?

Support from the Dems and Reps as long as the urbanization is kept out of the North Shore villages and Lido/Long Beach. And the developers like Wang continue to line the party coffers. Soon urbanized Hempstead will stretch from Stewart Manor to Plainview; from Albertson to Freeport. The new subUrbia.

[Time to move?]

Suozzi's vision for the growth of Nassau County is based on growing the County's population. So...he needs urbanization. Developers love it, because it means they get to develop.

Suozzi is too stupid to realize that the type of growth he proposes is directly counter to the suburban character of Nassau County. He also ignors the challenges such development pose to the County's infrastructure.

And while he ponders his vision for the future, he ignors the problems running rampant throughout the County. His leadership has made Nassau County a virtual magnet for illegal immigrants and gangs. To deal with those new challenges, he shrank the police force.

His "economic fix" via a radical tax increase has made the county all but unlivable for anyone who is not really rich, or really poor. That being said, he still pushes the development of low income housing...rather than figuring out ways to grow the middle class.

I am inviting debate here. I want to hear from someone, anyone who can sound off on how Suozzi has made our county a better place to live, or how his vision will make for a stronger county in the future.

And while he ponders his vision for the future, he ignors the problems running rampant throughout the County. His leadership has made Nassau County a virtual magnet for illegal immigrants and gangs. To deal with those new challenges, he shrank the police force.

His "economic fix" via a radical tax increase has made the county all but unlivable for anyone who is not really rich, or really poor. That being said, he still pushes the development of low income housing...rather than figuring out ways to grow the middle class.


The tax increase wasn't "radical", but necessary based on past fiscal mismanagement. What needs to be done, seriously, is an inventory of the county's responsibilities and a zero-based budget to pay for those responsibilities.

I do believe that police (public safety), property assessments, road maintenance and repair and sewers are county responsibilities.

Medicare, social services/Health, minority services (institutionalized racism/socialism), senior/veterans/Hispanic/Human Rights affairs and tourism belong to the state and federal government.

Parks and Consumer Affairs belong to the cities, towns and villages.

Discuss.

[Glen Cove to Chaminade]

Suozzi's plan is all about the drive time from Glen Cove to Chaminade.

He will choak the south shore with traffic and high rises, and relieve the north shore of traffice by using south shore growth to fund new roads for the north shore.

[Time to Move?]

I do not disagree with anything you are saying. Your budget remark makes sense. The rest does not respond to any point raised in the prior email. Is it a coincidence that these problems have reared their ugly heads under Suozzi's administration? The Republicans might not have been able to balance a budget, but the quality of life in Nassau County was significantly better. MS-13 was not a problem 4 years ago. The schools were significantly stronger than they are now. Crime wasn't what it is now. All of this has come up under Suozzi.

A balanced budget makes a lot of sense. But raising taxes as much as Suozzi did is a hit that many people cannot take. As a matter of fact, those that can afford to will just leave. There are much better ways to balance a budget than to simply raise taxes.

[quote=Time to move?]

The tax increase wasn't "radical", but necessary based on past fiscal mismanagement. What needs to be done, seriously, is an inventory of the county's responsibilities and a zero-based budget to pay for those responsibilities.

I do believe that police (public safety), property assessments, road maintenance and repair and sewers are county responsibilities.

Medicare, social services/Health, minority services (institutionalized racism/socialism), senior/veterans/Hispanic/Human Rights affairs and tourism belong to the state and federal government.

Parks and Consumer Affairs belong to the cities, towns and villages.

Discuss.

I do not disagree with anything you are saying. Your budget remark makes sense. The rest does not respond to any point raised in the prior email. Is it a coincidence that these problems have reared their ugly heads under Suozzi's administration? The Republicans might not have been able to balance a budget, but the quality of life in Nassau County was significantly better. MS-13 was not a problem 4 years ago. The schools were significantly stronger than they are now. Crime wasn't what it is now. All of this has come up under Suozzi.

A balanced budget makes a lot of sense. But raising taxes as much as Suozzi did is a hit that many people cannot take. As a matter of fact, those that can afford to will just leave. There are much better ways to balance a budget than to simply raise taxes.

[quote=Time to move?]

The tax increase wasn't "radical", but necessary based on past fiscal mismanagement. What needs to be done, seriously, is an inventory of the county's responsibilities and a zero-based budget to pay for those responsibilities.

I do believe that police (public safety), property assessments, road maintenance and repair and sewers are county responsibilities.

Medicare, social services/Health, minority services (institutionalized racism/socialism), senior/veterans/Hispanic/Human Rights affairs and tourism belong to the state and federal government.

Parks and Consumer Affairs belong to the cities, towns and villages.

Discuss.

Raising taxes was the only short-term solution to the problem given political considerations. As an example of long-term solutions, if both parties would fire their PR people and eschew county PR mailings, they would save a bundle. And it'll never happen. If county bidding processes were made easier and more transparent, they would save a bundle. And it'll never happen.

The rise in MS-13 and crime has more to do with illegal immigration and the increase in the 18-24 year male population. It's more George Bush and the court's fault than anyone else's.

My school district is still strong. Taxes and salaries and benefits have spiralled out of control in recent years. During the late '90's economic exuberance, the state and county spent and spent and promised more to different constituencies instead of saving for a rainy day. That behavior has come back to haunt us now. The reality is that the Democrats have inherited the problems of past administrations at the critical point of "can't take no more". Whether Rep or Dem, the next administration has its hands full.

Why doesn't Nassau Young Republicans VP Vassallo identify himself and his organization in his BS attack on Suozzi in today's newsday?