why does it take so long for a dept to do a backround check on a new memeber

[suffolkneedhelp]

Why does it take long island fire dept so long to do a backround check? i went to sign up they said it will take 4-6 months? long island dept have more money then some countys in the state. and suffolk county pd does the check round check so it take 6 months for a check of a name,finger prints? thats crazy. there are signs all over suffolk and ia m sure nassua firefighters needed tellings ome one when they sign up it will take 4-6 month to get called is a turn off. during that 4-6 month send them to the acadamy or some thing. thats really sad
that should be fixed
instead of spending money on nonsence let them fix that problem

[uneducated]

Before signing up as a volunteer, maybe you should finish high school because you write like an idiot. If you finished high school, consider going through it again. There are already enough idiots in the volunteer service.

[kitkat]

retard last night when i took a sh*t on your mother face she told me she enjoyed my high schools days
its funny your the one who got kicked out of 2 dept and your giving advice now that is funny
maybe you should work on not having your now x wife leave you

[Uneducated]

Dear kitkat,

First off, you should say I'm mentally challenged, not retarded, that's politically incorrect.

Secondly, I'm glad to hear my mom is getting out and having a good time, I've been worried about her since dad died.

As far as being thrown out of two departments, you obviously don't have any idea who I am and that makes me worry that you haven't been showing my mom a good time.

As for my ex wife, I haven't seen her in fifteen years and you're more than welcome to sh*t on her face.

My last point is that you're still an idiot and if you haven't finished high school, you absolutely need to go back. If you have finished, get yourself an attorney, go to court and bring your post from this site as evidence that you are too stupid to live, and you clearly had no business graduating.

P.S. Tell mom I said hello.

[Unregistereded]

dear special memeber on the site

yes every one knows who you are and every one knows why your x wife dumped you like trash

befor you come up with crap about people you dont know you should look at your self

check out newsday this weekend you mite see your picture in there fcktard

[678952398378]

Why does it take long island fire dept so long to do a backround check? i went to sign up they said it will take 4-6 months? long island dept have more money then some countys in the state. and suffolk county pd does the check round check so it take 6 months for a check of a name,finger prints? thats crazy. there are signs all over suffolk and ia m sure nassua firefighters needed tellings ome one when they sign up it will take 4-6 month to get called is a turn off. during that 4-6 month send them to the acadamy or some thing. thats really sad
that should be fixed
instead of spending money on nonsence let them fix that problem



"Why does it take long island fire dept so long to do a backround check? i went to sign up they said it will take 4-6 months?"

I am not sure which department you are signing up to join but most departments, at least in suffolk county take a min of 6 months. They are cases where it takes less time, which is usually in smaller departments that are really lacking on man power.
However the reason for a 6 month waiting period could be based on various reasons. Most departments now only recruit in 6 month incriments. This is to no only simplyfy training probationary members but also to try to have more then one probie at a time ( over a 6 month period hopefully more then one applicant will join creating a class of 2 or more probies, this is good for both the probies and the department, probies can help each other and training is is down once with both members instead of twice, say had the come in a month apart from each other, thus 6 month incriments.)



"long island dept have more money then some countys in the state."

I am not sure where you get your information but if they did, i would be paid. Also the money that the departments do get from TAX payers is controled by the board of Commisioners. This board is district elect. Meaning that any member or citizen in that fire district is welcome to attend and vote or appoint for a posistion as a commisioner of that department, also a commisioner DOES NOT have to be a member of the fire service. This board of commisioners will usually meet on a minimum of atleast once a month to go over acrued bills (ie electric. water, building maintainance, staff payroll, grounds up keep, apparatus maintanance, and etc.) They will also at theses meetings bring up proposals from multiple companies to do a required job, say new windows were needed in fire house, the board will contact various venders for proposals and the lowest bidder meeting the criteria will be chosen. THESE MEETINGS ARE OPEN TO THE PUBLIC... Before anyone gets on this site or any other about how departments buy anything they want and spend tax payer money like water they should first get the facts. This isnt to say that there arent theives out there, or people stealing, or wild spending going on, because it has happened, but if people would talk less and act more and go to these meetings (since they are so concerned as to go on the internet and cry) then there would be little room for such things to take place. Also while i am ranting the tax payer money is used for only so many things, a big problem as of late seems to be alcohol. The tax payers money is not used to buy it. In alot of departments if they arent a "dry house", since alot are now, the men will chip in to buy for an occasional once a month open bar for the men, used to bring the guys together. If not through the men some money will come from department fundraisers run by the men. But tax payers DO NOT buy our beer. Tax payer money goes to apparatus, gear, bldg and grounds, bill, pay roll, and etc. , that is if not paid through grants the department might have applied for.


"during that 4-6 month send them to the acadamy or some thing. thats really sad"

No you are sad
First off when a probie comes in he shouldnt be running off to the academy right away. Training begins in house, at the fire house. When department sends a person to the academy that person is representing that department and represents the type of training and work that has been put in with them. The fire house is where they first learn the basics, the academy is where it is refined, the fire house is then where the serious training will begin. You do not jump in the pool until you can swim. The amount of training that fire fighters go through , active ones, is incredible. A probationary member must learn the rigs, clean the rigs, learn the house, deparment protocall, sop's, drill at not only probie drills but all other department drills (based on how the department runs their house and drills). You also have to understand the academy is a two phase system, you have class room sessions first and various class room test. Then once that is completed you have hands-on. All of the training takes months, but just training to go to the academy takes months.


'instead of spending money on nonsence let them fix that problem"

What nonsense are you talking about, have you ever gone to a commisioners meeting, or budget meeting, or any kind of fire district meeting? No, you have not, had you, you would of been able to talk about what nonsense they pay for. You are just another angry little man or women, probably living in moms basement, mad at the world and just like to rant and rave about somthing you know nothing about.



LASTLY

If you are applying to a department, do yourself and that department a favor, withdraw. If you have started stirring the shit pot and complaining about the fire house before your in the door i dont want you and they dont need you. You would most deffinatly be able to devote the amount for training or for answering calls that these men do. You would not get up at 3 in the morning for a fire let alone an automatic alarm that 9 out of 10 times is a faulty detector, and you know it but you still go.


P.S.

TO THE IDIOTS WHO RESPOND TO POSTERS LIKE THIS, INSTEAD OF STURRING THE SHIT POT, TRY EDUCATING FIRST

[yippers]

Thank you for the info
what you said does make sence

all i asked was why does it take so long i thougt becouse they have signs up all over the county saying they need memebers it would be quicker and when i was younger i signed up for a dept in nassua they pretty much took any one i dont really know if they did backrounds that would explain alot none the less learned alot had a great time
a i am not sure how it turned in to the shit on the process topic

does ff1 exspire? if i have not been with a dept in 8 years is my cert still good?

[2778346]

Thank you for the info
what you said does make sence

all i asked was why does it take so long i thougt becouse they have signs up all over the county saying they need memebers it would be quicker and when i was younger i signed up for a dept in nassua they pretty much took any one i dont really know if they did backrounds that would explain alot none the less learned alot had a great time
a i am not sure how it turned in to the shit on the process topic

does ff1 exspire? if i have not been with a dept in 8 years is my cert still good?

"all i asked was why does it take so long i thougt becouse they have signs up all over the county saying they need memebers it would be quicker and when i was younger i signed up for a dept in nassua they pretty much took any one i dont really know if they did backrounds that would explain alot none the less learned alot had a great time"


Well one of the reasons for it taking longer now is because of firemen themselves. Departments are now cracking down on membership because it is the actions of the men that the community judges the department on. For example, the firemen not too long ago who set a house on fire so that he could be first on scene to save the victims and be a hero (not entire story, and sadly they died). Everything we do is going to be scrutinized by the public, and in some ways rightfully so, unfortunately in most cases the public does not realize the amount of work that is put in to keep a volunteer service up and running. But in the end there is nothing you can do people will always be unhappy, someone will always have somthin to say, that is just how it is. However it is for reasons of public safety, member safety, image and so on that departments and the local governments have set stricter rules in effect.


"a i am not sure how it turned in to the shit on the process topic"


WHAT ? you need to reread what your writing before you send it, i had to reread entire comment a couple times to get it myself, not being a dick but seriously. Please explain above comment.


"does ff1 exspire? if i have not been with a dept in 8 years is my cert still good?"


Honetly, i am not positive about the regulations for FF1, i do know that changes have been made within the last couple of years pertaining to FF1 certification. I was under the impression that it does not expire, however i could be wrong.

[wantedinfo11]

I didint start this forum i asked 2 weeks ago why does it take so long and they took down the topic
some times i cant post on here and some times i can

when i move i will apply how every long it take it takes i am sure dept have more to do now with less people doing it.

thank you for the info and help

[Unregistereddoorman]

I didint start this forum i asked 2 weeks ago why does it take so long and they took down the topic
some times i cant post on here and some times i can

when i move i will apply how every long it take it takes i am sure dept have more to do now with less people doing it.

thank you for the info and help

GET READY FOR YOUR TOILET TAX, Each time u flush in the firehouse, it will cost u....

[7666666666]

First off when a probie comes in he shouldnt be running off to the academy right away. Training begins in house, at the fire house. When department sends a person to the academy that person is representing that department and represents the type of training and work that has been put in with them. The fire house is where they first learn the basics, the academy is where it is refined, the fire house is then where the serious training will begin. You do not jump in the pool until you can swim. The amount of training that fire fighters go through , active ones, is incredible. A probationary member must learn the rigs, clean the rigs, learn the house, deparment protocall, sop's, drill at not only probie drills but all other department drills (based on how the department runs their house and drills). You also have to understand the academy is a two phase system, you have class room sessions first and various class room test. Then once that is completed you have hands-on. All of the training takes months, but just training to go to the academy takes months.

[wannabe11]

i am trying to join the dept in my town and they seem to have no intrest in new memebers. can i join the next town over? any one know how to go about that?
should i contact the county?
i dont want to step on toes but i do have a intrest in joining

[Unregisteredg]

i am trying to join the dept in my town and they seem to have no intrest in new memebers. can i join the next town over? any one know how to go about that?
should i contact the county?
i dont want to step on toes but i do have a intrest in joining

Try calling the department during regular business hours, most departments have secreteries and will have the information you need. Also, most departments will only accept members once to twice a year due to training scheduling and so on.

Yes some departments, rare, do accept out of district members. The ase in which most due is those that may not reside in but work in their district, some others i have heard also just accept if you are within a certain distance and not limite to district lines. However it maks the most sense to join where you live, help your community.

[newguy987]

i called up my towns dept the secreterie said you have to live there for a year. befor you can apply i. if i call up the county will they let me join the next town over or thats every dept resident rule?

[Unregistered9078087t]

I was cleared in about a weeks ... maybe they are trying to tell you something

[Unregisteredtu]

i called up my towns dept the secreterie said you have to live there for a year. befor you can apply i. if i call up the county will they let me join the next town over or thats every dept resident rule?

The only thing i can think of is try calling one more time and not mentioning how long you have lived where you presently are, unless of course you are asked. I have never heard of a situation like this before, the only thing i can say is if they tell you to wait, just wait. There is no sense in trying to join a department other than your own, plus that is where you should want to be, helping your neighbors.

[UnregisteredFGDZFDDFY]

I didint start this forum i asked 2 weeks ago why does it take so long and they took down the topic
some times i cant post on here and some times i can

when i move i will apply how every long it take it takes i am sure dept have more to do now with less people doing it.

thank you for the info and help

I know with my dept all background checks go through the Nassau County Fire Marshall's Office. They are understaffed so it takes longer to get things done.

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