Who would make a good Dem Chairman?

[The Truth]

I think Jay will be reelected this September (I don't think the Dems will be so stupid as to make such a major party change in the middle of a huge election). I do think he is finished after the next term though. So who's next? Who would be good? Who are the candidates? Will Galante make the coup attempt?
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[Mugwump]

I think Galante will be prodded into attempting a coup, and he will fail. That will pave the way for the people who really want the job. It's like the cemetary scene from The Godfather...the one who suggests the meeting is the traitor...in this case, the one who provokes Joey G. is the one who really wants the job.

I have my list of "usual suspects." How about yours?
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[Mugwump]

Joe makes his attempt, and a "party statesman" intervenes to prevent a ruinous fight during an election. Galante is squelched.

Post election, however, win or lose, the "statesman" goes after Jacobs. If the election is a disaster, Jacobs takes the blame. If it is not, his "weakness" (demonstrated by the fact that someone would engineer a coup during the election) will be trotted out as a reason for him to step aside.

Who might our statesman be? There too, I have my little list, and there'd none of them be missed, either.
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[Bulldog]

Matt Cuomo. Love him or hate him, he'll punch Joe M.'s lights out.

[Divided]

The thought of who is on Mugwump's short list frightens me. I can't think of anyone qualified. At least not from Tobay.

Why not Co-chairpersons? One for fundraising and one for leadership/administration. The current setup makes an easy target for the incessant backbiting.

[Duncan McCloud]

there can only be one.

[Mugwump]

Putting aside for a moment the unfortunate metaphor ("punching Joe M's lights out"), it isn't going to happen, at least not effectively. You need people to work with and for you to be a successful political leader. Mr. Cuomo will be so busy looking for enemies (within the party, alas) to punish and repay, that the work of getting Democrats elected will take second seat until it is, once again, too late.

So, unless Mr. Mondello is reduced to driving a cab someday, the prospect of Mr. Cuomo "punching his lights out," metaphorically or otherwise, isn't happening.

I see Gerard Terry engineering a "last man standing" run for the brass ring here.
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[muggy]

who the funk am I?

[Mugwump]

we all frequently ask ourselves the same question. I hope your answer is at least a satisfactory one...
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[justwatchin]

The dems only got the legislature cause reps imploded, not through skillful campaign tactics, Truth.
Suozzi beat dinap because of outside campaign help, professionals who got the job done, not nassau bs, Truth
Jacobs has put the party in the hands of kids, Truth.
No structure, No winning experience, and will flame out as soon as this Nov.

[Bulldog]

It doesn't matter who the Mugwump is. It matters that he keeps posting his intelligent thoughts.

Sorry about the Cuomo thing. It was supposed to be a joke.

[Dem1]

Gerry Terry would be a disaster. Under his "leadership", the party would retreat to Great Neck, abandoning all else to their respective local fates. His influence is already causing rifts in the North Hempstead organization at a time it needs to pull together.

What about any of the vice chairs, remembering that a chairman also has to be a great fundraiser?

[Next Chairman]

She will need something to do come November.

[Matt Cuomo]

This is not an alias. I am Matt Cuomo and am currently First Vice Chair of the Nassau Democratic Committee. I've posted on this site once or twice using, as most do, an assumed identity. However, I felt that this post should not be anonymous.

Two or three days a week I have lunch at my desk. I usually spend some time looking at this site. Sometimes you laugh, other times you cringe, and every now and then you learn something (mostly then). But I never fail to be amazed by how much bile and venom is spewed on this site. When those altercations are D vs. R at least they make some sense. But D vs.D boggles my mind.

Why do so many Dems on this site have a problem with Jay Jacobs or Tom Suozzi. (Mugwump, I know you include me on the list of horrible people in the world but for the life of me I just can't remember where on the road of life I passed you by.) So many of you seem genuinely interested in politics and government. Instead of spending inordinate amounts of time pecking away at your keyboards get involved. If you don't like what is going on try to change it. Perhaps if you look at the whole picture you will see that Jay Jacobs is a decent, honest person who commits a bunch of time and resources to elect Dems. Can any of the naysayers make that claim (the only way to do that would be to identify yourselves).

Here are some reasons Jay should be Chairman.

1) No Nassau Dem Chairman has ever raised so much money and spent every dime possible to further the interests of Dem candiates;

2) After the '01 primary he refused to go after those who were against Suozzi. Instead, almost everyone got the opportunity to become part of the team (some took the opportunity while others still seem to like intra-party disputes).

3) Redistricting went well. The Dems have a shot at expanding the Leg majority.

We need to recriut more new blood. We need to get to the point where we can do more to support the Towns, State Leg and Judges. The list of what we need to do is, admittedly, a long one. However, there is no dispute that the Dem party has come far in the last two years.

Stop whinning and crying. Give Jay the support and respect he has earned and the Nassau Dems will be even better.


Matt Cuomo

P.S. I will respond and engage in any discussion on the merits.

[Mugwump 2]

Please identify any business interests u have maneuvered thru Jay an Suozzi over the last 2 years. Thank you. Have u gotten legal business for your firm and from ho?

[Making It To The Top]

... serving the community since 1999!
I did such a good job, I'm leaving old Jay before the takeover!

[to Former Jay Supporter]

In the interest of disclosure regarding my "connections". Since 1999 my firm has been paid (as a percentage of the firm's total gross revenue) a whopping 0.015% from what Mugwump2 might describe as political sources. The rest of my firm's business comes from private companies (many of whom are outside of New York). None have interests with the County. I do not lobby. No one in the firm lobbies. Simply put, "political connections" do not put bread on the table.

On the merits. No one has questioned that Jay has raised more for the party and spent more to elect candidates (as opposed to taking trips at the committee's expense).

No one has questioned the Committee's efforts on redistricting.

Only one person seems to be mad that did not go postal on the DiNapoli supporters (how's that for irony - many DiNapoli supporters swear Jay is out to get them, as they go off to their political jobs, and apparently many Jay "supporters" are mad because Jay hasn't done enough to get those DiNapoli guys).

Under Jay Jacobs the Dem Committee is doing more than it has ever done. It is trying new things. Is every new initiative a success? Of course not. However, some failure is a sign that initiative is being taken.

You will see in November. We will keep the Leg majority. If I were a betting man I'd say we will expand the majority.

[Andy Cuomo]

What's the spin on my divorce? And please ask Jay before you tell me.

[Not a friend of Jay]

let him respond directly!

[Forgotten Man]

It is mid-2003, and the Committee's "web site" is a JOKE! Click on it some day and see what happens. Where is the initiative?

No money has been spent on trying to find new people to participate in the Democratic Party in TOBAY. Where is the initiative?

Rank and file committee members cannot get copies of the Committee Bylaws, books with names of registered voters in their districts, and answers to basic questions about party activities. Where is the initiative?

Jay gets all the credit in the world for raising tons and tons of money but is it primarily being used to strengthen the party in general or is it primarily being used to strengthen "favored" candidates who will enhance Jay and Tom's political futures?

[Matt Cuomo]

Forgotten Man we have got to have priorities. First and foremeost we have to support the county races, CE, DA, Clerk, Comptroller and Leg. Remember, this is the County Committee. Each Town has its own Committee. After we meet our first obligation at the county level then we can give more support to the Towns, Judges and State Leg.

The web site? You've got to be kidding. The last time I looked a great web site never elected anyone. Would I like a better web site? Yes! Would I counsel spending time and money on it to the detriment of our first priority, electing Dems at the County Level and than Dems in other areas of government. No. If you have web design skills come get involved!

Bringing in new members. That has to be done at the local (street) level. That's you Forgotten Man. Ryan and Gina cannot do the job you can do in your own neighborhood.

Finally, on the office. We have a paid staff of 4 or 5. There are 1150 EDs, aprox. 75 local candidates and electeds, two massive fundraisers a year to run, meetings to coordinate, petitions to draft, print, distribute, collect and bind, etc. The volunteer base is great on some of these items but overall we need more volunteer effort. If you are concerned Forgotten Man get off your computer and come to HQ. If you have ideas or complaints call me at HQ. I will call you back.

Matt Cuomo

[Kerry Kennedy]

Hey Matt
Why don't you blow all that Cheer leader stuff out you Ass. You hot headed phony. Move back to Suffolk Carpetbagger.

[Forgotten Man]

You pack a mean punch, Matt, real mean! Based on the tone of your response, the name I have chosen to use is truly appropriate. I know when I have been put in my place. No more dialogue from me, sorry I ruffled your feathers. But, on second thought, there is one more thing I should say. Please don’t assume that those of us who are “spending inordinate amounts of time pecking away at … [our] keyboards” are NOT involved. Some of us are MORE involved than you ever imagined! See you at the next meeting.

[Ruhe]

To the person calling themselves "Kerry Kennedy":

You are low. This has no place on this board. No matter how bad you say Cuomo allegedly is, you are infinitely worse as evidenced by your actual postings. People like you destroy any benefit participating on this board might have.

To Forgotten Man:
Go easy on the caffeine. I read Mr. Cuomo's responses and didn't get ANY of the venom you seem to have seen. Mr. Cuomo simply stated that everyone should get involved, especially the whiners and complainers and that he supports Jay Jacobs. Please point out these written "punches" you reference. I missed them completely.

[Yokel]

for responding directly, on the merits and without the veil of an assumed name. Nobody's knocking those who disagree with Matt on the merits of his arguments, but those who are taking cheap shots for sport are (1) punishing Matt for being a stand-up guy and (2) discouraging others from engaging in honest debate under their real identities. Seriously. On another issue, unless you're a presidential candidate, websites are about as useful to a campaign as nail files, combs and refrigerator magnets. Sorry, but it's true.

[Airhead]

That leaves you out.

[think the party is goin i]

Barbara Patton has bowed out of the ToH supervisor's race blaming lack of party support. Why cause so much trouble when Dot Goosby wanted and still wants to run? Patton's not the only one to complain, just the most visible one. Where does the money go?

This is a black eye to the party. Jacobs, you're losing people!

[Bobby Fisher]

Chairman Jacobs moves fast to move Dennenberg out, securing his excuse for not holding the majority in a redistricting cycle saying Dennenberg caused the start of the end.

Nobody's buying it, and Jacobs is gone before the last campfire is out!

[The Envelope Please]

I nominate Thomas Suozzi, a proven fundraiser. He gets along with everyone.

[Pat B]

JJ is our party chair. I personally respect the man for what he has done not just for himself, but for the party as a whole. I have attended meetings in the city and upstate and people know JJ and what he has done to put Nassau and Democrats back on the radar screen.

Ambition is what drives all of us involved in politics. And if JJ personal success is a soar spot, maybe those who attack him should have more ambition.

We are ALL Democrats and we need to stick together if we ever want to have a lasting place in fixing the mess that Mondello and friends caused.

As Matt said in one of his posts... "get involved"
I will leave you all with this; for those who attack JJ and the future young leaders of this Party... you either lead, follow or get out of the way.

I am a strong supprter of JJ because he is our chairman.

[Billy Bob Suozzi]

I will get u a raise-soon beacuse u do a great job kissing @#$.

[Former JJ Supporter]

Pat B. --- You are missing the point. Most people are not upset by JJ's success or ambitions. But rather by his failing to take along those who supported him earlier on. I did not get into this game to sit on the sidelines. By my sitting here and yelling rah-rah Jay go get 'em, what does that do for me...NOTHING. So ergo, if I want to be a player Jay is NOT my guy!

[Puzzled Dem]

To Pat B:
Q: How many Democrats does it take to screw in a lightbulb?
A: Doesn't matter. They won't cooperate long enough to do it.

To Former JJ Supporter:
Go down to HQ in Garden City and ask for something to do. I'm sure they will appreciate the help and give you guidance on how to effectively get involved.

[Cookie Monster]

I must say that all of this is quite entertaining but we need to gear up for the rumble in Nassau. We all know Suozzi needs to keep the 10-9 majority. Jay Jacobs might as well be the rapper Jay-Z. It's a hard-knock life (for those of you who know the song) for the rest of us but he's not sweating a thing. Forget the Town of Hemp. The race in the 'Stead is Dead. Katie gets the Miss Hempstead crown and a four-year supply Herbal Essence shampoo...a total "organic" experience.

Focus on the street action for now. All the office and backroom stuff will be hotter after November 6th.

P.S. What next for Babs Patton? She's still on the ballot. Under the election law, what if she decides to go back in the race? Is that possible?

[ScarletLadyNY]

Very interesting conversation here????

The Dem board is a pretty dead board, but do they get it?
Democrat posts are half the posts of the Republican board and reflect the viability of the Democrates.

If I am wrong, no worries. If I am right to late too sorry.



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I believe the post of Matt Cuomo summed it up well.

***Matt Cuomo Reply Jay will be and should be chairman

Here are some reasons Jay should be Chairman.

1) No Nassau Dem Chairman has ever raised so much money and spent every dime possible to further the interests of Dem candidates


> Raising money furthering the interest of the Dem candidates.

What about the constituents? How elementary does it need to get?

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[All Kidding Aside, My Cho]

Thanks for the compliment, disgruntled taxpayer. Sorry, I disappointed you on another topic when I was using a different user name (had to on the computer I was using). But, I'm letting that other topic go. I don't think I have what it takes to be a Democratic Party chairman but I definitely like to think about Democratic issues. Indeed, I think the NC Democratic Party needs more thinking and discussing on a local level - the Party needs to get its local clubs active.

[Pat B]

Q: how many republican's does it take to ruin a county?
Hint: He is no longer in office

Q: how many republicans does it take to come up with an answer or solution
A: None - they are to wrapped listening to themselves thinking they sound good for the press.

Q: Which party criticizes and has nothing else to give
Hint: Atleast the Democrats make an effort

[Puzzled]

Don't quit your day job.

[Santa Claus]

Rudolph wants to know, who's the next Chairman, Terry, Galante or Iannarelli?

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[No Way]

If Gerard Terry becomes chairman, I'm changing my registration to republican from Democrat.
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[joe]

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[No Way]

BIG MISTAKE ON MY LAST POST. I MEANT I'M CHANGING FROM DEMOCRAT TO REPUBLICAN..THE MAN IS A DISGRACE..
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[Good Company]

why not make joe mondello dem leader?
remove the middle man and let him directly
sabatoge Dems.Certainly couldn't be any worse
than the idiot they have now.

[PYTHAGORUS]

SO RIGHT YOU ARE;
NOTHING MORE CAN OR NEEDS TO BE SAID.

DEMS ARE SELF-DESTRUCTING RIGHT BEFORE OUR VERY EYES; JUST WHEN I THOUGHT WE WERE GETTING "REAL", OUR "LEADER" SCREWS IT ALL UP!!!!

[Hmmmmm]

This guy is the biggest idiot I've ever meet in politics, the harder you work for the party the hardier he screws you. Well soon enough the screws will be brought to him. I can't wait to see his face when he not chairman anymore.

[Joltin Joe Suozzi]

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