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Deeply effected by 911
09-12-2010, 09:50 PM
This is a pretty good article about the mosque and Islam. The point is Islam when it hold true to its core is extremism promoted by terrorist.

Here is the link:

http://www.nassaucivic.com/The_truth_and_the_Mosque.html

Unregisteredgood???
09-12-2010, 10:59 PM
This is a pretty good article about the mosque and Islam. The point is Islam when it hold true to its core is extremism promoted by terrorist.

Here is the link:

http://www.nassaucivic.com/The_truth_and_the_Mosque.html

How is this a good article? It's pure propagandistic b.s. with numerous outright falsehoods. I would expect better from a 5th grader.

Cat Luvr
09-12-2010, 11:14 PM
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Unregistered556
09-13-2010, 07:31 AM
This is a pretty good article about the mosque and Islam. The point is Islam when it hold true to its core is extremism promoted by terrorist.

Here is the link:

http://www.nassaucivic.com/The_truth_and_the_Mosque.html

This is a commercial why you shouln't join the Nassau Civic Group, They are pandering to the right and avoid any crtical thought and choose what facts they want to use. You want to be painted as a fair organization then try to be objective. There are at least 5 major facts they left out of the article but I am not going to even bother, their little minds are already made up.

UnregisteredNOSHARIAINUS
09-13-2010, 01:33 PM
This is a commercial why you shouln't join the Nassau Civic Group, They are pandering to the right and avoid any crtical thought and choose what facts they want to use. You want to be painted as a fair organization then try to be objective. There are at least 5 major facts they left out of the article but I am not going to even bother, their little minds are already made up.

ONE THING, HAVE YOU BEEN FITTED FOR YOUR BURKA?

No Mosque
09-13-2010, 08:36 PM
This is a commercial why you shouln't join the Nassau Civic Group, They are pandering to the right and avoid any crtical thought and choose what facts they want to use. You want to be painted as a fair organization then try to be objective. There are at least 5 major facts they left out of the article but I am not going to even bother, their little minds are already made up.

I thought the article was fair. Please do say what was left out.

BTW, this group does print opposing views.

Bash Salaf. Bd Toad
09-13-2010, 09:18 PM
This is a commercial why you shouln't join the Nassau Civic Group, They are pandering to the right and avoid any crtical thought and choose what facts they want to use. You want to be painted as a fair organization then try to be objective. There are at least 5 major facts they left out of the article but I am not going to even bother, their little minds are already made up.


On other threads there appears to be a similar person with immediate histrionic replies to any discussion of the self serving immam islamic moves being made at the proposed mosque where the landing gear for one of the jets hijacked and destroyed by young men who all shared the same barber and central contol by a Salafist/Wahhabist action group.

Since the remains of many of those on those jets were broken up/pulverized then it is fair to say that the area where a landing gear plunges through a roof can be considered sacred ground.

back to this poster, his syntax in his language is easily discerned as the same person form previous threads. Realize: That when having discourse with the folks who support Sharia in the US there is no trying to reason with them. They will only expend your energies. It is about time that John Q. Public goes to his school board meetings, library board meetings, community board meetings and go there with an agenda to support continued democracy and be opposed outright to any person who calls islam a religion of peace. If we are not careful all the muslim holidays will be voted in by some weak kneed or weak minded libs who can be worked up into a compassion complex and or threatened physically to vote the way the Sharia people want.

Case in point. Around islamic owned houses in Elmont and Bellerose Queens, 6 foot + solid vinyl Fences are all around. Front yard, back yard, side yard and teh Town of Hempstead has granted variances on some but not all.

Code Enforcement is not made by religion!

Stop the insidious destruction of our fun way of life by these folsk who come here for what if not to share in our fun and freedom?

Unregistered556
09-13-2010, 10:27 PM
I thought the article was fair. Please do say what was left out.

BTW, this group does print opposing views.

Well for starters they could have stated that they have been using that site as a mosques since July 2009, Rauf has served under both administrations, Bush and Obama as a representative and worked with the FBI. There is no funding, he has only raised $10,000. It is not just a mosque but also a community center and more importantly that the local community board approved the mosque including some who had relatives that dies on 9/11. You want to tell a story you should include all the facts, not just those to benefit an agenda.

Unregistered556
09-13-2010, 10:45 PM
On other threads there appears to be a similar person with immediate histrionic replies to any discussion of the self serving immam islamic moves being made at the proposed mosque where the landing gear for one of the jets hijacked and destroyed by young men who all shared the same barber and central contol by a Salafist/Wahhabist action group.

Since the remains of many of those on those jets were broken up/pulverized then it is fair to say that the area where a landing gear plunges through a roof can be considered sacred ground.

back to this poster, his syntax in his language is easily discerned as the same person form previous threads. Realize: That when having discourse with the folks who support Sharia in the US there is no trying to reason with them. They will only expend your energies. It is about time that John Q. Public goes to his school board meetings, library board meetings, community board meetings and go there with an agenda to support continued democracy and be opposed outright to any person who calls islam a religion of peace. If we are not careful all the muslim holidays will be voted in by some weak kneed or weak minded libs who can be worked up into a compassion complex and or threatened physically to vote the way the Sharia people want.

Case in point. Around islamic owned houses in Elmont and Bellerose Queens, 6 foot + solid vinyl Fences are all around. Front yard, back yard, side yard and teh Town of Hempstead has granted variances on some but not all.

Code Enforcement is not made by religion!

Stop the insidious destruction of our fun way of life by these folsk who come here for what if not to share in our fun and freedom?

So if I can summarize your comments you are opposed to any form of muslim worship? We have a WTC memorial but now the area is extended to any location that were hit by airplane parts. Your alright with Jewish and Christian Holidays but not Muslim? Your not alright with fence variations for muslim residences do you feel the same way for the ortodox Jews that are buliding temples in the 5 towns?

By the way people should be going to school board meetings, village meetings for many reasons the least of which is Sharia Law.

Unregisteredfindone
09-13-2010, 11:08 PM
On other threads there appears to be a similar person with immediate histrionic replies to any discussion of the self serving immam islamic moves being made at the proposed mosque where the landing gear for one of the jets hijacked and destroyed by young men who all shared the same barber and central contol by a Salafist/Wahhabist action group.

Since the remains of many of those on those jets were broken up/pulverized then it is fair to say that the area where a landing gear plunges through a roof can be considered sacred ground.

back to this poster, his syntax in his language is easily discerned as the same person form previous threads. Realize: That when having discourse with the folks who support Sharia in the US there is no trying to reason with them. They will only expend your energies. It is about time that John Q. Public goes to his school board meetings, library board meetings, community board meetings and go there with an agenda to support continued democracy and be opposed outright to any person who calls islam a religion of peace. If we are not careful all the muslim holidays will be voted in by some weak kneed or weak minded libs who can be worked up into a compassion complex and or threatened physically to vote the way the Sharia people want.

Case in point. Around islamic owned houses in Elmont and Bellerose Queens, 6 foot + solid vinyl Fences are all around. Front yard, back yard, side yard and teh Town of Hempstead has granted variances on some but not all.

Code Enforcement is not made by religion!

Stop the insidious destruction of our fun way of life by these folsk who come here for what if not to share in our fun and freedom?

Find one post anywhere that supports sharia law. One.

Unregistered556
09-14-2010, 07:42 AM
I forgot to mention, where is does the prevention of Muslim houses of worship fall in the Nassau County Civic Association Mission Statement?

To promote open, honest, and moral government that is responsive to the needs of the people of Nassau County.
To encourage public participation and awareness.
To encourage the wise and efficient use of taxpayer dollars.
To limit and reduce the high burden of any and all government taxation on the people of Nassau County.
To seek and support any reform which may be necessary to achieve the objectives and purposes stated herein.
To disseminate information concerning all aspects of the above stated purposes

I have not seen one recent news item on the budget problems in Nassau County, it would be nice to see your organization address that rather than religion. Your organization has a real opportunity to gather people from all political affiliations but you seem more intent on one-sided criticism of national issues while ignoring all the local issues.

Unregistered234
09-15-2010, 10:44 PM
This is a pretty good article about the mosque and Islam. The point is Islam when it hold true to its core is extremism promoted by terrorist.

Here is the link:

http://www.nassaucivic.com/The_truth_and_the_Mosque.html

Oh yes great article, ignore the retirements for close to $2 Million in the NCPD and focus on the mosque. Nice that the Nassau County Civic Association has time to focus on such worldl wide issues with all the problems we have in Nassau County, where do I sign up??

too much taxes
09-16-2010, 12:56 AM
Oh yes great article, ignore the retirements for close to $2 Million in the NCPD and focus on the mosque. Nice that the Nassau County Civic Association has time to focus on such worldl wide issues with all the problems we have in Nassau County, where do I sign up??

Either it is conincidence or they heard you.

Unregistered 00000
09-17-2010, 08:14 PM
Oh yes great article, ignore the retirements for close to $2 Million in the NCPD and focus on the mosque. Nice that the Nassau County Civic Association has time to focus on such worldl wide issues with all the problems we have in Nassau County, where do I sign up??

What are you talking about. This group is an anti-tax group. They seem too anti-tax.

Unregistered345
09-17-2010, 09:45 PM
What are you talking about. This group is an anti-tax group. They seem too anti-tax.

Welll instead of writing a lopsided and biased editorial on the mosque why not write about the many issues we have right here in Nassau County since that is the nam eof your group. Most of the editorials are anti-Obama, Paterson, Spitzer, etc, how about offering some crticism of Peter Schmidt, or the three towns. How about some comments on Managano's proposal to borrow 364 million over the next 3 years or the pension problems caused by Albany. If you want to increase membership and become a force try to be more objective.

Unregistered345
09-17-2010, 09:47 PM
Welll instead of writing a lopsided and biased editorial on the mosque why not write about the many issues we have right here in Nassau County since that is the nam eof your group. Most of the editorials are anti-Obama, Paterson, Spitzer, etc, how about offering some crticism of Peter Schmidt, or the three towns. How about some comments on Managano's proposal to borrow 364 million over the next 3 years or the pension problems caused by Albany. If you want to increase membership and become a force try to be more objective.

I forgot to mention if you are anti-tax your wish came true, Mangano is going to borrow $364 million over the next 3 years so he can freeze taxes, do you think thats a good idea?

Unregistered no no no
09-18-2010, 12:33 AM
Welll instead of writing a lopsided and biased editorial on the mosque why not write about the many issues we have right here in Nassau County since that is the nam eof your group. Most of the editorials are anti-Obama, Paterson, Spitzer, etc, how about offering some crticism of Peter Schmidt, or the three towns. How about some comments on Managano's proposal to borrow 364 million over the next 3 years or the pension problems caused by Albany. If you want to increase membership and become a force try to be more objective.

Its not my group. I looked through there articles and there is criticism of republicans. They did go after schmidt for his raises. The problem with your analysis is you think Obama, paterson and Spitzer are great. Your a typical blind liberal.

Unregistered345
09-20-2010, 10:01 PM
Its not my group. I looked through there articles and there is criticism of republicans. They did go after schmidt for his raises. The problem with your analysis is you think Obama, paterson and Spitzer are great. Your a typical blind liberal.

Really go look at their front page, the last 15 or so posts, Barrack Obama, Michele Obama, healthcare, mosque, immigration, civil rights, black panthers, gay marriage, gays in military very few artricles on anything meaningful going on in Nassau County.

You would hope that there would be an article on the $243 million deficit and a potential NIFA takeover but its better to wax poetic about the more worldly issues. Do you see Mangano's name mentioned one time this year? I see one article back in Feb relative to legislative disclosure with no follow up. Like I said they need to go back and read their mission statement.

They have an opportunity to get bipartisan support but it sure looks like a one sided organization to me. Where are the county issues in the last 4 months??

Unregistered345
09-20-2010, 10:06 PM
Maybe they could comment on the $364 million in borrowing over the next 3 years, freezes taxes so it must be good for the county right? I anxiously await the next NCA editorial that wiull hopefully address that or will it be back to gays in the military?

Populist??
09-20-2010, 11:11 PM
Really go look at their front page, the last 15 or so posts, Barrack Obama, Michele Obama, healthcare, mosque, immigration, civil rights, black panthers, gay marriage, gays in military very few artricles on anything meaningful going on in Nassau County.

You would hope that there would be an article on the $243 million deficit and a potential NIFA takeover but its better to wax poetic about the more worldly issues. Do you see Mangano's name mentioned one time this year? I see one article back in Feb relative to legislative disclosure with no follow up. Like I said they need to go back and read their mission statement.

They have an opportunity to get bipartisan support but it sure looks like a one sided organization to me. Where are the county issues in the last 4 months??

I go to the website once in a while to see what is posted. The last piece is critical on borrowing and the Police retirements.

Looking at all of the invited guests, they have had more democrats then republicans.

They are more of a populist site then a particular ideology. Thats my opinion.

Unregistered345
09-21-2010, 08:31 AM
I go to the website once in a while to see what is posted. The last piece is critical on borrowing and the Police retirements.

Looking at all of the invited guests, they have had more democrats then republicans.

They are more of a populist site then a particular ideology. Thats my opinion.

That article from last week is the only meaningful one in the last 7 months. Where is the editorial on the $364 million borrowing plan?
Look back at the editorials and tell me if there were any editorials criticizing Bush. From 2004 to 2008 all you see is Spitzer, Suozzi. You may think they are even handed but thats not what their website indicates.

Fiscal adviser
09-21-2010, 10:38 PM
That article from last week is the only meaningful one in the last 7 months. Where is the editorial on the $364 million borrowing plan?
Look back at the editorials and tell me if there were any editorials criticizing Bush. From 2004 to 2008 all you see is Spitzer, Suozzi. You may think they are even handed but thats not what their website indicates.

Looking at the borrowing, what is the alternative? If not, the County will have to move toward backrupcy. I don't believe mangano has borrowed more then Suozzi, he is just borrowing the same amount to keep the county in the black. What he really needs to do is open up the employee contacts which have no layoff provisions until 2015.

Unregistered345
09-22-2010, 07:56 AM
Looking at the borrowing, what is the alternative? If not, the County will have to move toward backrupcy. I don't believe mangano has borrowed more then Suozzi, he is just borrowing the same amount to keep the county in the black. What he really needs to do is open up the employee contacts which have no layoff provisions until 2015.

Borrowing $364 million is not the answer, he should raise taxes until the issue is resolved. Moody’s already down graded their bond rating with the prior borrowing and cancellation of the energy tax. Borrowing more money will result in another downgrade and even higher interest rates.

I am not blaming him for the contracts, Suozzi made all those concessions in return for lag payrolls but he is barking up the wrong tree if he thinks he can renege on a union contract with the county.

Interest is already a huge part of the county budget, do you realize that the 2011 debt service will be $355 Million, that is more than the cost of the police district or the police headquarters funding. His answer is to borrow more at a higher interest rate? Sorry that is complete insanity. His refusal to raise taxes is very Gulotta like.

fiscal advisor
09-22-2010, 09:25 PM
Borrowing $364 million is not the answer, he should raise taxes until the issue is resolved. Moody’s already down graded their bond rating with the prior borrowing and cancellation of the energy tax. Borrowing more money will result in another downgrade and even higher interest rates.

I am not blaming him for the contracts, Suozzi made all those concessions in return for lag payrolls but he is barking up the wrong tree if he thinks he can renege on a union contract with the county.

Interest is already a huge part of the county budget, do you realize that the 2011 debt service will be $355 Million, that is more than the cost of the police district or the police headquarters funding. His answer is to borrow more at a higher interest rate? Sorry that is complete insanity. His refusal to raise taxes is very Gulotta like.

Are you kidding or are you trying to be funny? Nassau pays the 2nd highest taxes in America and you call for higher taxes? Your out of touch with the political climate. If Mangano raises any taxes, he should just pack it in.

As to borrowing, I don't like it either but the real answer is to cut, cut, cut. If he cannot negotiate with unions, he needs to play some hard ball. BYW, the amount he is borrowing is more like the status quo in terms of the amount Suozzi borrowed so I don't think it will lead to higher interest rates.

fiscal what??
09-22-2010, 11:00 PM
Are you kidding or are you trying to be funny? Nassau pays the 2nd highest taxes in America and you call for higher taxes? Your out of touch with the political climate. If Mangano raises any taxes, he should just pack it in.

As to borrowing, I don't like it either but the real answer is to cut, cut, cut. If he cannot negotiate with unions, he needs to play some hard ball. BYW, the amount he is borrowing is more like the status quo in terms of the amount Suozzi borrowed so I don't think it will lead to higher interest rates.

He would borrowing on top of what's already been borrowed, so of course it would lead to a credit downgrade and higher rates. What are you talking about?

What???
09-23-2010, 07:46 AM
Are you kidding or are you trying to be funny? Nassau pays the 2nd highest taxes in America and you call for higher taxes? Your out of touch with the political climate. If Mangano raises any taxes, he should just pack it in.

As to borrowing, I don't like it either but the real answer is to cut, cut, cut. If he cannot negotiate with unions, he needs to play some hard ball. BYW, the amount he is borrowing is more like the status quo in terms of the amount Suozzi borrowed so I don't think it will lead to higher interest rates.

Do you want to play politics or balance the budget and be fiscally responsible? I don’t like taxes either but the energy tax amounted to around $60 per household a year. The proposed debt service for 2011 is $355 Million and with more borrowing that will just get worse.

If you can’t pay your bills you either cut expenses or raise taxes and it is doubtful with the proposals he has on the table that he will be able to do anything meaningful on expenses. This is exactly what Gulotta did, chanting that he froze taxes every year and the people bought into it. Meanwhile the debt keeps going up and up and making a bad situation worse. If people don’t think that amount of debt is a problem they will find out shortly when NIFA takes over.

Prospecter
09-25-2010, 03:11 AM
Do you want to play politics or balance the budget and be fiscally responsible? I don’t like taxes either but the energy tax amounted to around $60 per household a year. The proposed debt service for 2011 is $355 Million and with more borrowing that will just get worse.

If you can’t pay your bills you either cut expenses or raise taxes and it is doubtful with the proposals he has on the table that he will be able to do anything meaningful on expenses. This is exactly what Gulotta did, chanting that he froze taxes every year and the people bought into it. Meanwhile the debt keeps going up and up and making a bad situation worse. If people don’t think that amount of debt is a problem they will find out shortly when NIFA takes over.

But what you don't know is that under the white paint on the rotunda, lies a solid sheathing of 14k GOLD! They're just waiting for gold to hit $3000/oz and then they'll sell it and the county will be debt free forever more. It's true, I swear.

Unregistered789
09-27-2010, 07:44 AM
But what you don't know is that under the white paint on the rotunda, lies a solid sheathing of 14k GOLD! They're just waiting for gold to hit $3000/oz and then they'll sell it and the county will be debt free forever more. It's true, I swear.

That solution would make more sense than the Shinnecock Indian Casino!

Allāhu Akbar (الله أكبر)
09-29-2010, 08:17 PM
But what you don't know is that under the white paint on the rotunda, lies a solid sheathing of 14k GOLD! They're just waiting for gold to hit $3000/oz and then they'll sell it and the county will be debt free forever more. It's true, I swear.

Wrong infidel! It is really a secret mosque awaiting the great day the Prophet-may Allah bless him and give him peace - returns triumphantly and destroys you all!