Zinno has had too much Post Av Koolaide and too little fresh air

[Wipe the Nose Pete]

PZ's nose seems to be very far up some party boss' behind. Speaking like a frustrated math teacher is an interesting stunt, but the entire point is based on faulty logic.

The best candidate can win on one line. If Becker loses the R-primary, then his loyal duty would be to fully support . This would entail:
1. Relinquishing the GOP annex, Tax revolt line
2. Virtually dropping out by way of encouraging his supporters to vote for the only viable candidate, which may possibly include encouraging the I and C voters to vote as either a write-in on those lines of as the R candidate.

In a primary win, there should be no republican nor true conservative not supporting the front-runner if we want McCarthy out.

[Unregistered Guest 11570]

Please. Layoff Pete. He's a good guy. I think he's been told that, if McCarthy beats whomever this year, he'll be at the head of the line in 2012 -- if he plays nice this year. Pete's so bedazzled by the fantasy of serving in Congress -- despite his admitted advancing years (he's in better shape than most guys 20 years younger) -- that he's willing to trust the empty promise made by westend honchos.

If you're a serious and astute supporter of Frank , you wouldn't attack a well-liked guy like Pete. What's to be gained by doing this? I think you're either (1) a Becker agent provocateur or (2) a foolish fan letting off some steam in the wee hours of the morn. Neither speaks well of you and your post. Go out and do some positive work for your preferred candidate.

Leave the political strategery to grownups who've some sense of how these things really work.

[Zinfindel]

I want some of the crack they are giving out at the HQ. The reality can't be that FRAN CAN WIN and that is why he is backed by anyone who matters. How come the 5 Towns times has endorsed Fran...who has endorsed Frank - Arlen Specter?? Peter Zinno backed Becker because Fran can win...and Frank can't...and no posting on a political board is going to change that. Frank wanted to be the Post Avenue guy, he would have been all over being the post avenue guy but he wasn't good enough...all of his speaking in low slow tones like Mr. Rogers, no family and no experience doing anything that matters to the people of Nassau. It is great that the Post Ave. pick also happens to be a great Conservative guy...you should be counting your blessings instead of spreading your evil venom everywhere.

Peter King supports Fran....do you think it is because 'the Party' told him too... In your post pubescent minds you think He really wanted to endorse Frank, a no name law professor congressional aide but he had to FALL IN LINE...give me a break. Give Fran some credit, he has worked hard and served for over a decade. People respect that even if you don't.

A vote for Frank is a vote for Carolyn McCarthy.

[Ziggy Freud]

Please. Layoff Pete. He's a good guy. I think he's been told that, if McCarthy beats whomever this year, he'll be at the head of the line in 2012 -- if he plays nice this year. Pete's so bedazzled by the fantasy of serving in Congress -- despite his admitted advancing years (he's in better shape than most guys 20 years younger) -- that he's willing to trust the empty promise made by westend honchos.

If you're a serious and astute supporter of Frank , you wouldn't attack a well-liked guy like Pete. What's to be gained by doing this? I think you're either (1) a Becker agent provocateur or (2) a foolish fan letting off some steam in the wee hours of the morn. Neither speaks well of you and your post. Go out and do some positive work for your preferred candidate.

Leave the political strategery to grownups who've some sense of how these things really work.

A well-liked guy like Pete? Obviously not well liked enough to have a campaign that either made much traction or got any blessings from the party machine. Why do you suppose that is?

[Underwhelmed]

A vote for Frank is a vote for Carolyn McCarthy.

Quite the very opposite. A vote for Fran Becker is a vote for Carolyn McCarthy. The reluctant appointee candidate Becker has been consistently underwhelming and disappointing everytime I have heard or seen him.

[OP is kinda right]

Please. Layoff Pete. He's a good guy. I think he's been told that, if McCarthy beats whomever this year, he'll be at the head of the line in 2012 -- if he plays nice this year. Pete's so bedazzled by the fantasy of serving in Congress -- despite his admitted advancing years (he's in better shape than most guys 20 years younger) -- that he's willing to trust the empty promise made by westend honchos.

If you're a serious and astute supporter of Frank , you wouldn't attack a well-liked guy like Pete. What's to be gained by doing this? I think you're either (1) a Becker agent provocateur or (2) a foolish fan letting off some steam in the wee hours of the morn. Neither speaks well of you and your post. Go out and do some positive work for your preferred candidate.

Leave the political strategery to grownups who've some sense of how these things really work.

There's all kinds of posts on these boards, and the original post was pretty mild compared to many others out there. Why such a ultra-sensitive nerve here on Zinno? It looked to be some fair criticism. **Nobody respects self-serving yes men.** The OP suggested he might be brown-nosing a bit much, and actually in your reply defending Pete, you offer some support to that theory. I see that he's already still running...

One thing you maybe right about though is that the post was "planted" by a Becker operative. That's my theory.
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[Build a Bear]

Fran is so underwhelming he gets re-elected with 70% of the vote every time he runs. Frank hasn't even been elected Dog Catcher. And have you REALLY listened to Frank with his low slow nasal tones...talking down to everyone....taking long torturous roots just to convey that he 'understands' the issues...He is a big snooze. Why in his commercial there isn't even a live shot of him...why just a voice over - and slide show...is the campaign afraid to show his blinking tick and what he is really like to the voters. The more people Frank meets the better it is for Fran. And have you seen his Franks videos on hiswebsite in front of his campaign HQ - hello reading from cue-cards-Obama-teleprompter moment..look in the mirror for 'underwhelming'...

[My Homey]

Fran is so underwhelming he gets re-elected with 70% of the vote every time he runs. Frank hasn't even been elected Dog Catcher. And have you REALLY listened to Frank with his low slow nasal tones...talking down to everyone....taking long torturous roots just to convey that he 'understands' the issues...He is a big snooze. Why in his commercial there isn't even a live shot of him...why just a voice over - and slide show...is the campaign afraid to show his blinking tick and what he is really like to the voters. The more people Frank meets the better it is for Fran. And have you seen his Franks videos on hiswebsite in front of his campaign HQ - hello reading from cue-cards-Obama-teleprompter moment..look in the mirror for 'underwhelming'...

I have no doubt that Fran gets elected by healthy margins in his home town, GOP district. His democrat challengers were that much more underwhelming and not in friendly territory. Every first time candidate has never been elected. Your statement means nothing.

I have not heard any "long slow nasal tones" from Frank, so I have no idea what you're talking about. I HAVE heard Fran's stammering at a loss for the right words, his not answering the right question, going off into ridiculous tangents to hide his vacuousness, the over rehearsed slogans and talking points - none of which impresses me in the least.

To the unsophisticated voter, any intelligent discourse on issues will sound like "long tortuous roots [sic]." All those big words are putting you to sleep? Too bad Barney the dinosaur isn't running.

[Unregis tered]

Yes, Peter is a very nice man who has done many good things in his community, but for some reason, despite all this, never got the traction to become a serious candidate. Peter also is a good republican follower of Post Ave. hoping for some little crumbs they deign to throw his way. Peter chose to suspend his campaign rather than primary because he was doing the 'good republican' thing, part and parcel of the go-along to get-along politics as usual.

So, given the history, it is not surprising that Pete would give his hat to the Post Ave. fellow. Not surprising, but disappointing nonetheless for someone who wants to do so much good.

[CantvoteforFrank]

It is just these type of personal attacks made from Frank supporters that will cause me not vote for Frank even if hebeins the primary
Zinni is a decent guy. He is a team player

Too many people have made this an anti Pist Ave thing

Post Ave is not always great but while some people jumped ship under Suozzi they were still there working

People are starting to sound more like the Bastardis with there I know more than any leader.

Frank is a decent guy but I find his supporters rude with a know it all attitude

[The KnowNothings]

I agree...the know it all attitude just shows it is amateur hour at Team Frank. Like they have nothing to learn from anybody...and the excuse that nobody is supporting Frank because they are all 'scared' or establishment team players. That isn't being very nice. How many people are Team Frank going to besmirch because people freely choose to back Fran? It is tiring the constant excuse for Frank's lack of endorsement and lack of support is because everyone is scared of Post Avenue or scared to lose their job. If Frank's supporters are so principled and conservative and upstanding why don't they come out and say so? But I guess they don't because they don't exist.

Nobody is supporting Frank, the GOP, etc. because he can't win. I know anti-establishment fervor is sweeping the nation but that just isn't the case with Fran. Sometimes the Republican Party gets it right - Fran luckily is a big conservative and he also can win - period. Frank can not win. The voters know that and will affirm it on Tuesday. I just hope the young guys who support Frank don't become too jaded and come into the fold after the election. Fran's campaign will need their energy and enthusiasm. Right now they view Becker as the enemy but he really isn't...if they got to know him, they would probably like him more than they like Frank. Fran in all the times I have met him is completely genuine and wears his heart on his sleeve. He really loves people and is in this for all of the right reasons. He really feels a call to service for his country! I find that admirable. It is sad that all of the supporters are questioning his motives, distorting and diminishing his fine record of service to Nassau County. It isn't really a good plan to get on the bad side of a future Congressman but I don't think Fran is the type to hold a grudge. From what I have heard he is a good Christian man.

[Unregi stered]

It is just these type of personal attacks made from Frank supporters

Oh? And the personal attacks from Fran supporters don't influence you at all? Curious. Why is that?

that will cause me not vote for Frank even if hebeins [sic] the primary

Very sad. Do what you will. I'm voting enthusiastically for Frank in the primary. If he happens to lose, I'll vote for Becker in the general and offer to volunteer on his campaign. If Fran doesn't want my help, (anticipating some simpleton will write "Fran doesn't want your help") that's OK with me, too.

Odd that some befuddled Becker supporters accuse 's supporters of the "my way or the highway mentality" and then go on to pledge to support McCarthy if Fran loses. At least they concede tacitly of the very real possibility of Becker losing.

[Flint]

The difference between Frank and Fran is that Fran is already on the ballot. He is already the Conservative Party nominee and the Independence Party nominee. Frank should have exited gracefully when he lost the Conservative line but he thinks he is 'entitled' to this. It really is a disgrace. Frank doesn't care about the 4th Congressional District, if he did, he would have dropped out and focused on running for a local seat next year.

[Relief 2 b sought]

You'd fight it out in court if someone ripped you off too. Frank has every right to challange the C party since they reneged on the Wilson-Pakula.

It isn't fair to those who voted him in and to the people who backed him in signatures.

What are you afraid of him getting more C votes in addition to winning the R primary?

I's don't vote party line, they vote the candidate. Let's have an honest election for once instead of Chicago gangsta.

[Unregis tered]

told Frank that if Frank wins the GOP primary, Fran will give up the fight... that's how 'in' to this contest Fran is. It's a half-hearted effort by the 11th hour pick of Post Ave knowing that his brother lost TWICE to Carolyn and with much more money than Fran can even think to get!

Funny thing is, even in Lynbrook folks are backing Frank . They know that FRANK is the INDEPENDENT CONSERVATIVE REPUBLICAN who will represent WE THE PEOPLE and not the go-along to get-along political machine! Folks don't need the so-called other lines to know the real deal when they see him... and that's Frank !

[Dingofrank]

I think the outrage is based on the fact that this thread was created not attacking fran rather Peter Zinno. He is no longer running. But because he backs Fran he is attacked by Frank supporters. Rather distasteful

Want attack candidates running go ahead. Peter is a great guy and Franks supporters should be ashamed for creating this thread

I would say the same for the Derham threads but Franks guys are really shameful

[Wheresthebeef]

I saw on this board that Peter Zinno was backing Frank ...I am So confused - say it isn't so - and NOW Lynbrook is going to Frank!! What is going on! I can't believe this! I hear Obama is cutting taxes too and is going to burn the Koran with that preacher in Florida..WHAT A WEEK oF SURPRISES.

[easyone]

A well-liked guy like Pete? Obviously not well liked enough to have a campaign that either made much traction or got any blessings from the party machine. Why do you suppose that is?

I think you know the answer to that one... the real source of Frank's money.