Suffolk Home Land Security

[Ice Cube1]

Is it true Bell from Brentwood was selected to Head this Department by Levy......... What is her claime to fame?

None, she probably has the goods on him. Its a hushy ploy

[Excellent]

Is it true Bell from Brentwood was selected to Head this Department by Levy......... What is her claime to fame?

It is my understanding that she is "very" qualified.
Alot of backround in Keyspan, LIPA etc.
She also appears to be a nice lady !!
I wish her well !!

[backround]

Is it true Bell from Brentwood was selected to Head this Department by Levy......... What is her claime to fame?

It is my understanding that she is "very" qualified.
Alot of backround in Keyspan, LIPA etc.
She also appears to be a nice lady !!
I wish her well !!
Like I said, she probably has the goods on him. Big differene between working a few ''backround'' jobs in keyspan, and knowing about terrorism

[Guesswho]

Is it true Bell from Brentwood was selected to Head this Department by Levy......... What is her claime to fame?

It is my understanding that she is "very" qualified.
Alot of backround in Keyspan, LIPA etc.
She also appears to be a nice lady !!
I wish her well !!
Like I said, she probably has the goods on him. Big differene between working a few ''backround'' jobs in keyspan, and knowing about terrorism

Working for Keyspan is somewhat connected to terrorism. Ever get one of their bills? They've been terrorizing Long Islanders with them.

[levy the duck]

someone who needed a job thats what its all about. :twisted:

[islipian2]

From what I understand a County FRES guy and a bureau of EMS guy both submitted applications and then came the credentials of Bel . you know the rest of that story. She is more than qualified and to my knowledge not political to any extreme degree. This position was earned by her because of her educational and practical experiance credentials. Director Pagdaganan I wish you well .

From what I understand a County FRES guy and a bureau of EMS guy both submitted applications and then came the credentials of Bel . you know the rest of that story. She is more than qualified and to my knowledge not political to any extreme degree. This position was earned by her because of her educational and practical experiance credentials. Director Pagdaganan I wish you well .
What education does she have in relation to terrorism, crime, etc?
Better yet, what experience does she have? I would think you would want a, Federal law Enforcement official, legit Law Enforcement official with a Emergency Services background, or at a minimum someone near the top with ties to Fres or E/s. Not some book worm with no life experience.

From what I understand a County FRES guy and a bureau of EMS guy both submitted applications and then came the credentials of Bel . you know the rest of that story. She is more than qualified and to my knowledge not political to any extreme degree. This position was earned by her because of her educational and practical experiance credentials. Director Pagdaganan I wish you well .
What education does she have in relation to terrorism, crime, etc?
Better yet, what experience does she have? I would think you would want a, Federal law Enforcement official, legit Law Enforcement official with a Emergency Services background, or at a minimum someone near the top with ties to Fres or E/s. Not some book worm with no life experience.
Hopefully she has a large pool of resources and hires advisors a bit more knowledgeable in these matters until she gets her feet wet, Then again had Levy actually hired someone with a background in International law or terrorism there would nt be a need for additional resources. Just how things are out here, my understanding is that if the dept goes through as planned, its just a figurehead, something to appease the public, most of the training will still be done through the SCPD academy, or FRES anyway. As usual so much promise, so little results

[Guest30]

So let me see if I have this right.

1) You post for the position of Director of Emergency Preparedness in the newspaper (Newsday) and on the civil service posting that you are seeking someone for this position. Minimum qualifications are a Chief Officer of either a fire or EMS department, or supervising law enforcement official with significant management and training in the field of emergency or disaster services to appropriately serve in that position.

2) You cut the number of eligible individuals with significant qualifications down to about 15, so that you do not "overburden" the interview process.

3) You hold interviews for the position with the Deputy County Executives for the purpose of reducing the number of "qualified" individuals down to a short list. Some of these people are unbelievably qualified for such a postion that they could easily go outside Suffolk and get hired immediately by other private- or public sector employers.

4) You hold secondary interviews with the "short" list candidates. Some of which have 20, 25, 30+ years in Emergency Services with resumes that read like battle worn veterans that have seen or done about everything that could possibely come our way. Many of them have degrees or advanced degrees in Public Administration or Emergency Services.

5) You complete the interview process and select a candidate for the position that neither has significant experience in Emergency Services or a Chief or Supervisory Officer of the Police Fire and EMS Services as was posted for the position.

Thank you CE Levy for slapping every volunteer or career Firefighter, EMS Personnel or Police Officer in the face for selecting an individual that in know way understands what is involved in the provision of Emergency Services. Thank you for selecting a person who in no way understands overall Emergency Managment and Coordination of Resources for disasters. Thank you for failing to recognize the qualified personnel of the Emergency Services in Suffolk County, who by far and large, had superior qualifications for the position than the person you selected.

Thank you for putting Suffolk County "behind"everyone else.

I hope the Suffolk Chiefs, fire and EMS agencies take a stand and stop this farce. Do not let a Chief in FRES be the only one who stands up for the right thing. ME TOM O'HARA SHOULD OF GOTTEN THIS POSITION LOOK AT WHAT I DID TO BLA I RAN IT INTO THE GROUND WAHH WAHH WAAAAA

[control]

levy control the fire service and we are letting this happen :oops:

levy control the fire service and we are letting this happen :oops:
But whos controlling Levy?
At least on this matter?
Is this appointee a member of the rainbow?

So let me see if I have this right.

1) You post for the position of Director of Emergency Preparedness in the newspaper (Newsday) and on the civil service posting that you are seeking someone for this position. Minimum qualifications are a Chief Officer of either a fire or EMS department, or supervising law enforcement official with significant management and training in the field of emergency or disaster services to appropriately serve in that position.

2) You cut the number of eligible individuals with significant qualifications down to about 15, so that you do not "overburden" the interview process.

3) You hold interviews for the position with the Deputy County Executives for the purpose of reducing the number of "qualified" individuals down to a short list. Some of these people are unbelievably qualified for such a postion that they could easily go outside Suffolk and get hired immediately by other private- or public sector employers.

4) You hold secondary interviews with the "short" list candidates. Some of which have 20, 25, 30+ years in Emergency Services with resumes that read like battle worn veterans that have seen or done about everything that could possibely come our way. Many of them have degrees or advanced degrees in Public Administration or Emergency Services.

5) You complete the interview process and select a candidate for the position that neither has significant experience in Emergency Services or a Chief or Supervisory Officer of the Police Fire and EMS Services as was posted for the position.

Thank you CE Levy for slapping every volunteer or career Firefighter, EMS Personnel or Police Officer in the face for selecting an individual that in know way understands what is involved in the provision of Emergency Services. Thank you for selecting a person who in no way understands overall Emergency Managment and Coordination of Resources for disasters. Thank you for failing to recognize the qualified personnel of the Emergency Services in Suffolk County, who by far and large, had superior qualifications for the position than the person you selected.

Thank you for putting Suffolk County "behind"everyone else.

I hope the Suffolk Chiefs, fire and EMS agencies take a stand and stop this farce. Do not let a Chief in FRES be the only one who stands up for the right thing.
The whole thing was a show to appear fair to the few qualified applicants, no doubt the real list was given to Levy by his puppet master. The names on the real list were ones to appease the quota.

lets revert to what we do best (and find funny)

call her a fat piece of shit and call it a day. :lol:

lets revert to what we do best (and find funny)

call her a fat piece of shit and call it a day. :lol:
Why? Lets stick to the fact that another person ''hooked'' their way into a job they are not qualified for. Not only were more qualified people passed over either because of political bs or favors owed, but if there was a legit threat to L.I. we were done a disservice by this appointment.
Whether she is a super model or Roseanne Barr, I could care less.

lets revert to what we do best (and find funny)

call her a fat piece of shit and call it a day. :lol:
Why? Lets stick to the fact that another person ''hooked'' their way into a job they are not qualified for. Not only were more qualified people passed over either because of political bs or favors owed, but if there was a legit threat to L.I. we were done a disservice by this appointment.
Whether she is a super model or Roseanne Barr, I could care less.
Exactly its about getting a competent director, she may well turn out to be one, someday, sadly Tom O'Hara was born to do that job but was passed up to back up a favor

[observer FD/EMS]

First off Geust30 , (BD) ?(TO)?

You sound like in ,your posting , that you are one who has been Passed over for this job. Maybe the political side of the fence you are sitting on is not conducive to the current regime,so to speak. County politics is very dangerous when you are not in the middle of the road.

I do not know the qualifications of this bel person. If they are as grossly inadequate as a few have stated , maybe then this appointment should be reviewed by the NY State Dept of Homeland Security at the minimum and perhaps the governors office.

And although Newsday/News12 loves the little darling , maybe they would be interested in this story, if in fact more qualified persons were passed over for the appointment.

Hey how bout the O'reily Factor, sounds like a job for Bill

[Guest30]

"First off Geust30 , (BD) ?(TO)?

You sound like in ,your posting , that you are one who has been Passed over for this job. Maybe the political side of the fence you are sitting on is not conducive to the current regime,so to speak. County politics is very dangerous when you are not in the middle of the road."



Unfortunately you are mistaken. I did not apply for the position and get passed over as you suggest. However, I did see the posting in newsday after a friend showed it to me. I also looked up the position on the Suffolk County Civil Service site to see if there was any additional qualifications. It stated clearly what the minimum qualifications were.

Regardless of anyone's political leanings, there are ways of posting and hiring for the position and still make it fair and equitable for the appointment. This goes beyond "balls", to shear "stupidity".

The Suffolk Chief's had a say in the appointment of the Commissioner of FRES and Director of the SCFA, why would they condone such an appointment. Especially that of a homeland security position responsible for the institution of training and education in the area of disaster response.

It is not up to me individually to take on this fight with the County Executive Office. However, the people who were interviewed, and eliminated in such a blatant disregard for the position and its' responsibilities, should take up the fight. The Suffolk Chief's, Ambulance Chief's and SCPD should be right along with them.

[observer FD/EMS]

I will agree with you if, her credentialing is whoefully inadequate and she was appointed over persons who were more qualified.

The SCFCA and SCACA as well as the PBA have to collectively step-up to the plate and approach the legislature as well as the CE.

Legisl. Angie Carpenter is the chairperson for the public safety committee and Deputy Presiding Officer she has a vested interest from that point and should be contacted as well .

Geust if you are still active it also behooves you to approach the association that is applicable to you .

I agree the Safety of the citizens of suffolk should not be minimized by an appointee who may or may not be qualified.

If all else fails and your and others, allegations are true than the press should be notified as to the urgency and direness of this issue as the safety of our communities depend on it. There should not be a political agenda behind this at all. I truly think safety of our citizens should be the only driving force to rectify this.

[guest1234]

:P

[guest12345]

Bel is qualified for this position, just because she isnt a chief or former chief of an fd or ems agency doesnt mean she isnt qualified, i know a few chiefs cough cough ohara that couldn't find their ass with both their hands in front of a mirror, If you all think being a director of emergency prepairdness for keyspan is nothing then your sadly mistaken :P :P

[Guest30]

"If you all think being a director of emergency prepairdness for keyspan is nothing then your sadly mistaken"

Really.

Her title for Keyspan was Community Development Director.

If she was Director of Emergency Preparedness, it was not for too long.

"If you all think being a director of emergency prepairdness for keyspan is nothing then your sadly mistaken"

Really.

Her title for Keyspan was Community Development Director.

If she was Director of Emergency Preparedness, it was not for too long.
Thats because the position she held was ''prepairdness '' not preparedness. I agree that someday she might well be a excellent director, she has alot to learn hopefully as others posted, she is surrounded by quality people. guest 12345 should not assume just being a fd chief is qualification to be the director. Personally I'd want someone with federal/international law background. You need those connections.

[wharf rat]

From Suffolk County Civil Service posting

MINIMUM QUALIFICATIONS

OPEN COMPETITIVE

a) Graduation from a New York State or Regionally accredited college or university with a Bachelor's Degree and six (6) years experience as a fire department chief, emergency medical services chief, law enforcement supervisor or emergency management supervisor; or,

b) Graduation from a standard senior high school or possession of a high school equivalency diploma and ten (10) years experience as a fire department chief, emergency medical services chief, law enforcement supervisor or emergency management supervisor;or,

c) An equivalent combination of education and experience as defined by the limits of a) and b).

[you forgot d)]

From Suffolk County Civil Service posting

MINIMUM QUALIFICATIONS

OPEN COMPETITIVE

a) Graduation from a New York State or Regionally accredited college or university with a Bachelor's Degree and six (6) years experience as a fire department chief, emergency medical services chief, law enforcement supervisor or emergency management supervisor; or,

b) Graduation from a standard senior high school or possession of a high school equivalency diploma and ten (10) years experience as a fire department chief, emergency medical services chief, law enforcement supervisor or emergency management supervisor;or,

c) An equivalent combination of education and experience as defined by the limits of a) and b).


d) Or be a minority/ female who the County Exec owes a favor to and or needs a job.

"guest 12345 should not assume just being a fd chief is qualification to be the director. Personally I'd want someone with federal/international law background. You need those connections."


Actually, if you read his/her post carefully, you will see that they were supporting the appointment of the Director.

However, I disagree with the necessary Law Enforcement Background. If you understand the workings of the SCPD, they already have numerous personnel in places of Disaster Management and the Joint Terrorism Task Force, etc, etc. The connections for the position are already there through the SCPD Chief of Department and their liaisons.

But the point is really this. The new Director was involved with Community Development, and not Emergency Management. If she did have any interaction with Emergency Management, it was only recently and no where near the required 6 or 10 years as stated in the qualifications.

In addition, the title and position of Emeregency Preparedness Director is only a recent development since 9/11. Therefore, she still did not meet the minimum six(6) year requirement.

There were many other more qualified personnel for the position.

"guest 12345 should not assume just being a fd chief is qualification to be the director. Personally I'd want someone with federal/international law background. You need those connections."


Actually, if you read his/her post carefully, you will see that they were supporting the appointment of the Director.

However, I disagree with the necessary Law Enforcement Background. If you understand the workings of the SCPD, they already have numerous personnel in places of Disaster Management and the Joint Terrorism Task Force, etc, etc. The connections for the position are already there through the SCPD Chief of Department and their liaisons.

But the point is really this. The new Director was involved with Community Development, and not Emergency Management. If she did have any interaction with Emergency Management, it was only recently and no where near the required 6 or 10 years as stated in the qualifications.

In addition, the title and position of Emeregency Preparedness Director is only a recent development since 9/11. Therefore, she still did not meet the minimum six(6) year requirement.

There were many other more qualified personnel for the position.
You need one or the other, either law enforcement background supervisory level, emergency/disaster training on a management level. I think the fed/interna'tl level would be useful as well.

From Suffolk County Civil Service posting

MINIMUM QUALIFICATIONS

OPEN COMPETITIVE

a) Graduation from a New York State or Regionally accredited college or university with a Bachelor's Degree and six (6) years experience as a fire department chief, emergency medical services chief, law enforcement supervisor or emergency management supervisor; or,

b) Graduation from a standard senior high school or possession of a high school equivalency diploma and ten (10) years experience as a fire department chief, emergency medical services chief, law enforcement supervisor or emergency management supervisor;or,

c) An equivalent combination of education and experience as defined by the limits of a) and b).


d) Or be a minority/ female who the County Exec owes a favor to and or needs a job.
or
e) the general public gets screwed by the elitist few who nominate their cohorts based on political motivation or campaign funding.

Its a empty suit job anyway.Banquets, Guest speaker gigs and press releases, unless sir stevie wants the photo op

[crybabies]

Sounds to me like the 2 who were passed over for the job are crying over it. BD is a whiner who does nothing but lecture all day. Just b/c you can stand in front of a room and bore people to sleep doesn't qualify you for the position (neither does being up alicandro's ass). And as for TO......when was the last time he was on an ambulance? Another paper pusher who, lest we forget, was kicked out of his company ??
Bell has the qualifications; just b/c they are not broadcast to the world like the other bags of hot air doesn't mean they don't exist. As for her being a woman &/or minority? YEAH SO?? Gee I thought ems and fire was about helping others, not being jealous and blaming it on what other people are versus what they know. Women and minorities alike in the ems/fire system should be Proud she is there.
Get over yourselves and stop crying. The decision is made, whether you like it or not.

Sounds to me like the 2 who were passed over for the job are crying over it. BD is a whiner who does nothing but lecture all day. Just b/c you can stand in front of a room and bore people to sleep doesn't qualify you for the position (neither does being up alicandro's ass). And as for TO......when was the last time he was on an ambulance? Another paper pusher who, lest we forget, was kicked out of his company ??
Bell has the qualifications; just b/c they are not broadcast to the world like the other bags of hot air doesn't mean they don't exist. As for her being a woman &/or minority? YEAH SO?? Gee I thought ems and fire was about helping others, not being jealous and blaming it on what other people are versus what they know. Women and minorities alike in the ems/fire system should be Proud she is there.
Get over yourselves and stop crying. The decision is made, whether you like it or not.
Right because a incompetent person is chosen over better suited person just to fill a quota, the people opposing this are crybabies.
I guess we also arent allowed to discuss it just because you say so.I doubt anyone in position for this nomination is posting here.
This position isnt a ems/ fire system, its a political appointment. Being a telemarketer for keyspan hardly qualifies her as qualified.
The fact that she is a women or minority isnt that big a deal until you realize thats the only reason she was appointed is to appease the quota and that there are far more qualified women and minorities out there.
That again the public gets screwed because someone who is friends with someone in charge needs a favor/job.
My understanding is that several experts on emergency services from outside the area refused to interview for the job, when they found out it wasnt a real job, just a paper pushing job.

actually fire / ems system had alot to do with it, alot of phone calls made when person A was suppose to get the job stating they didnt want that person. Which led to another appointment.

Good luck

[Ice Cube1]

Did the Deputy Commissioner (FRES) resign.Over the appointment of Bell.I heard Don.C walked into Levys office and had a shit fit, over her appointment.He is a big lose, to the Fire Service. If this is true.Can anybody confirm this.Is it me or is the the whole Suffolk Co Fire Service, going to hell, in a hand basket...

he resigned because she was making more money from what i heard

actually fire / ems system had alot to do with it, alot of phone calls made when person A was suppose to get the job stating they didnt want that person. Which led to another appointment.

Good luck
Right, POLITICS as usual.

politics are back!

Did the Deputy Commissioner (FRES) resign.Over the appointment of Bell.I heard Don.C walked into Levys office and had a shit fit, over her appointment.He is a big lose, to the Fire Service. If this is true.Can anybody confirm this.Is it me or is the the whole Suffolk Co Fire Service, going to hell, in a hand basket... 8)