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ConservativeSocietyAction
09-03-2010, 02:40 PM
The Conservative Society for Action (CSA) does not formally endorse candidates. CSA held a series of no holds-barred town hall meetings with candidates hoping to run against local elected officials. Everyone appearing in the forum is rated by the membership on a scale of 1 to 10 as a general guide to how much the members approve of their views and presentation. CSA provide videos of these meetings as a service to its membership and the public at large.

Here's a partial list of the candidates and their ratings:

Senate (full term)
Gary Berntsen: 95%

Senate (2 year term)
Bruce Blakeman: 93%
David Malpass: 89%

Governor
Rick Lazio: 81%
Carl Paladino: 71%

House of Representatives (CD4)
Fran Becker: 49%
Frank : 89%

House of Representatives (CD5)
Milano: 94%

State Senate (SD7)
Jack Martins: 92%

Ratings for other candidates and races can be found at the CSA website.

Unregisteredwtf?
09-03-2010, 04:09 PM
Why did your group circulate petitions to destroy the Republican and Conservative parties with the phony taxpayer line?

I don't understand what you stand for because I thought you were all about fighting against the Democrooks?
I am confused.

Tea Party Animal
09-03-2010, 04:39 PM
House of Representatives (CD4)
Fran Becker: 49%
Frank : 89%

So much for Becker's dubious claim to be "the only conservative Republican in the race." I live elsewhere and have no real preference. It occurs to me that may in fact be a liberal and have conned the audience into his rating. However, how can one look at Becker's pathetic rating and not question his candidacy?

This is a serious question for Becker partisans. Please don't attack me or the "Conservative Society for Action." Do you really think that with his lackluster performances, late start and sluggish fundraising, Fran Becker can succeed where his brother failed twice? 49%? Their lowest-ever rating?

Conservative Enough?
09-03-2010, 07:11 PM
Are you kidding?


49%!

http://fitsnews.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/02/failing-grade-m.jpg

Unregiste red
09-03-2010, 07:38 PM
CSA1776 takes on all comers who don't walk the walk when it comes to CONSERVATIVE VALUES. Be they republican or democrat, it doesn't matter, as it is shown time and again that republicans, especially in NASSAU County, who are part of the Mondello Machine will vote as ORDERED, regardless if the policy point is liberal or against the people of the district. If it's good for Mondello, then vote YES!

The Tea Party Movements and CSA are about giving power back to the vast grass roots nonpolitical folks who PAY THE TAXES! In case you hadn't noticed... WE THE PEOPLE ARE SICK AND TIRED AND WE'RE NOT GOING TO TAKE IT ANYMORE!

The folks are out there, paying attention, watching, reading, learning and not being fooled by the slick words of the political elite!

Unregistered hghg
09-03-2010, 08:13 PM
Joe doesn't have a long time left.

Unregisteredneed2know
09-03-2010, 09:44 PM
Can you please tell me who you are supporting against Bishop? Isn't there a guy named Maloney running for something and what race would that be? thank u

maloney for 4th CD
09-03-2010, 10:25 PM
Can you please tell me who you are supporting against Bishop? Isn't there a guy named Maloney running for something and what race would that be? thank u

Maloney is running for Congress in Nassau. He is in a three way primary against Fran Becker and Frank for a chance to take a shot at Carolyn McCarthy. CSA for reasons known only to themselves did not include Maloney in their ranking, despite the problems with .

CSA Supporter
09-03-2010, 10:43 PM
CSA ... did not include Maloney in their ranking.

I suggest you look at their website for their rating of this candidate.
Hint: he did better than Becker's 49%.

Unregistered4488
09-04-2010, 11:20 AM
at first, I was impressed with the csa. However, I now believe most of them just have a grudge againstr the republican party. I heard 2 members declaring hate for Mr Modello. It had to be something personal.

no surprise really
09-04-2010, 11:44 AM
at first, I was impressed with the csa. However, I now believe most of them just have a grudge againstr the republican party. I heard 2 members declaring hate for Mr Modello. It had to be something personal.

CSA is essentially a Suffolk County organization. They made a couple of contacts with activists who have a grudge against Mondello and "the Republican Machine." They committed early to supporting anti-Mondello and pro- rallies. In the CSA's defense, the litigious nature of the campaign only came to light during the petition cycle.

Clearly, 's actions against Maloney violate the spirit of the Tea Party movement. is Washington DC government lawyer who accepted questionable donations from a conservative perspective. A guy like Maloney is what the Tea Party is about. He's an activist who worked on behalf of veterans and a regular guy with whom you could have a beer. Maloney says things that anger the GOPer Establishment because he isn't a go along to get along guy, and we all understand that.

, on the other hand, is a Beltway guy who became hostile to the political establishment only after he was rejected by it. The CSA loses alot of credibility with these rankings. Becker is far more conservative. is far less conservative.

played his hand more like Obama in Chicago (trying to throw people off the ballot including Becker off the Conservative Line) than the Mondello GOP ever has. The CSA can of course continue to drink the kool aid. With every case Frank loses in court, they're beginning to look silly. Sometimes a person is a pariah because he is a pariah. Frank pretends he's a political victim, and the CSA - like a bunch of sheepish liberals - nod their heads in agreement. I thought the politics of victimhood was a specialty of the political left.

Unregiste red
09-04-2010, 11:58 AM
CSA is against the go-along to get-along. Mondello is part and parcel of that practice, or else he'd give a sheet about the taxpayers of Nassau County. It was Mondello who chose Dede Scozzafava last year and ended up throwing the district to a democrat for the first time since reconstruction (that's the 1870s folks)... Mondello cares only about his machine, which is why he's earned the animosity of so many taxpayers who he ignores.

The 'ratings' were done fairly and equitably. Every person who attended the numerous candidate forums held by the CSA (many in Nassau County, btw), had am opportunity to complete a form for each person who appeared and took questions. At the end of this entire season, the CSA then tabulated the responses submitted. From the get-go, Frank has impressed the membership with his knowledge and CONSERVATIVE positions. This impression was also taken by other tea party groups as well. In another survey, before Fran arrived late in May, Frank scored 67% of the vote, over Maloney's 13%. More recently, at a forum held in Malverne, Fran's backyard, Frank received the clear majority of the vote, while Fran and Dan swapped 2nd and third place.

These are the votes of the people who have listened, learned, and made careful decisions in the 4th cd race about who they want to represent them in Washington. Spin it anyway you want, name-call and engage in schoolground shenanigans....these are the unchanging facts!

Unregiste red
09-04-2010, 12:06 PM
Really?! the sad surprise is that Dan Maloney, civic activist extraordinaire brought these cases upon himself by submitting faulty petitions when he promised the tea party folks that in fact he would honor their request and NOT RUN AGAINST FRANK. In fact, Dan said he wouldn't run and then turned around and decided he would run anyway, b/c only DAN could save us all. His email where he said he wouldn't run and then wished Frank all the best is on these threads somewhere. Dan cannot win, has little interest in anyone else winning, despite his constant statements that he wants to beat Carolyn McCarthy. His actions speak a whole lot louder than his words and he has shown a blatant disregard for the wishes of the tea party movements as well as other conservatives in the race. Is it any wonder really, when one of Dan's brothers is a democrat?! Just exactly where do Dan's loyalties lay?! It sure isn't with the people of the 4th CD!!!

facts are facts
09-04-2010, 01:17 PM
Really?! the sad surprise is that Dan Maloney, civic activist extraordinaire brought these cases upon himself by submitting faulty petitions when he promised the tea party folks that in fact he would honor their request and NOT RUN AGAINST FRANK. In fact, Dan said he wouldn't run and then turned around and decided he would run anyway, b/c only DAN could save us all. His email where he said he wouldn't run and then wished Frank all the best is on these threads somewhere. Dan cannot win, has little interest in anyone else winning, despite his constant statements that he wants to beat Carolyn McCarthy. His actions speak a whole lot louder than his words and he has shown a blatant disregard for the wishes of the tea party movements as well as other conservatives in the race. Is it any wonder really, when one of Dan's brothers is a democrat?! Just exactly where do Dan's loyalties lay?! It sure isn't with the people of the 4th CD!!!

Maloney won every court battle against . If Maloney didn't want to run, then why did he walk petitions and kick Frank's ass in court. Frank obviously sucks as a lawyer since he keeps on losing to Maloney. Frank is the little pussy dragging people into court and crying like a bitch.

Oh, I can here the campaign now... Vote for Frankie or He'll Sue You!

Unregiste red
09-04-2010, 01:24 PM
Here's Maloney's own email.....

From: Dan Maloney <>
Date: Tue, Jun 8, 2010 at 10:19 PM
Subject: Terminating Maloney for Congress Campaign
To: <>

As I stated during the campaign, I would let the Tea Party groups determine whether I should continue my campaign if it would result in a primary challenge.

Tonight I presented that question to them.

The decision was that Frank would have a better chance at winning the primary against Joe Mondello's hand picked candidate if I were not in the race.

True to my word I am terminating my campaign and will look forward to Frank's victory in September.

Thank you all for your help during this learning experience.

Dan

CSA is clueless
09-04-2010, 01:25 PM
CSA is against the go-along to get-along. Mondello is part and parcel of that practice, or else he'd give a sheet about the taxpayers of Nassau County. It was Mondello who chose Dede Scozzafava last year and ended up throwing the district to a democrat for the first time since reconstruction (that's the 1870s folks)... Mondello cares only about his machine, which is why he's earned the animosity of so many taxpayers who he ignores.

The 'ratings' were done fairly and equitably. Every person who attended the numerous candidate forums held by the CSA (many in Nassau County, btw), had am opportunity to complete a form for each person who appeared and took questions. At the end of this entire season, the CSA then tabulated the responses submitted. From the get-go, Frank has impressed the membership with his knowledge and CONSERVATIVE positions. This impression was also taken by other tea party groups as well. In another survey, before Fran arrived late in May, Frank scored 67% of the vote, over Maloney's 13%. More recently, at a forum held in Malverne, Fran's backyard, Frank received the clear majority of the vote, while Fran and Dan swapped 2nd and third place.

These are the votes of the people who have listened, learned, and made careful decisions in the 4th cd race about who they want to represent them in Washington. Spin it anyway you want, name-call and engage in schoolground shenanigans....these are the unchanging facts!


Scozzafava received significant money from the Log Cabin Republicans. Similarly, the LCR Pac was a very early contributor to . wasn't even a blip on the radar and the LCR Pac identified him as someone who would be sympathetic to their liberal social agenda. It would make sense for the CSA to back Maloney over Becker or . But they should have more than healthy skepticism over in light of the litigious nature of his campaign, and the fact that numerous Tea Party activists were forced to testify in an apparent attempt at using the legal system to coerce volunteers. Proudly, these true patriots stood up against and his legalistic thuggery.

Just the facts ....
09-04-2010, 01:47 PM
.It would make sense for the CSA to back Maloney over Becker or . But they should have more than healthy skepticism over ....

Assuming (and that's a lot) that there's any truth to what you wrote about (other than foolishly accepting a check that had written on it "LCR PAC" and that was a goof by a well-intentioned, but basically dumb and inexperienced campaign worker), assume away, BUT

HOW DOES THIS EXPLAIN FRAN's 49%!!!!!!!

facts are facts
09-04-2010, 02:13 PM
Assuming (and that's a lot) that there's any truth to what you wrote about (other than foolishly accepting a check that had written on it "LCR PAC" and that was a goof by a well-intentioned, but basically dumb and inexperienced campaign worker), assume away, BUT

HOW DOES THIS EXPLAIN FRAN's 49%!!!!!!!

Real Conservatives don't try to throw everyone off the ballot. That is a Barack Obama move. Frank's now numerous failed lawsuits also call to question his conservatism, as raise the question of his Ivy League feeling of entitlement, another vestige of adopting a Beltway attitude towards governance.

Without having a clear track record, declares himself "the front runner" without ever having run for office. And then picks on Tea Party volunteers. Not only that, can't seem to keep his own volunteers in line, whether it is a "dumb and inexperienced campaign worker" who accepted LCR money on his behalf, or the rantings of an "experienced volunteer" who is a wanna be in a GOP club organization but who alienates everyone with his brusque and inappropriate behavior.

The buck has to stop with Frank . His "dumb and inexperienced campaign workers" accept money from the ultra liberal LCR Pac. His dumb legal team loses numerous court cases, including the ugly litigation against Team Maloney. One of his "experienced volunteers" - who was described by the Maloney Camp as 's "hatchet man" - was supposedly chastized on numerous occasions by for the problems he causes.

Yet, the nonsense and the whining continues.

Unregis tered
09-04-2010, 02:14 PM
Fran's less than stellar performances as he appears around the district. People come away unimpressed. We have a chance to beat Nancy's twin Carolyn and that means we need Frank to be our Candidate. Frank can win, Fran won't. Even with "three" lines, Fran won't win... he's uninspiring and a big ol YAWN. Carolyn will take 1 look at Fran and laugh herself all the way to her mansion in southhampton!

Frank will make Carolyn fight. Frank will show the people of the 4th just how poorly Carolyn has worked for us. Frank can and will WIN!

Unregis tered
09-04-2010, 02:22 PM
far... Frank is the front-runner... in Money, in Organization, in polls taken throughout the district... Frank leads.... Fran and Dan don't!

If you're so impressed with Dan, then how come you ignore his own 'termination' letter?! If Dan is a man of his word... why doesn't this matter to you?! You upbraid Frank as the buck needing to stop with him... well, same is true of Dan. Well... when the challenges to Dan's petitions were filed, Dan's answer was, oh, it's the fault of my petition gatherers b/c they are so "new"... FACT... the BOE found that over 20% of Dan's signatures were deficient! Fact, the democrat commissioner of the BOE found that Dan's petitions were lacking... the GOP commissioner found a mere 12 more than needed so that DAN could continue. When there is a question of fact, you take it to the court and let them decide, that is if they were truly unbiased. Read the orders of the court..... the appeals court wouldn't even hear the case, turning it back to the lower court to rule and even there it was shenanigans as usual. The STATUS QUO FAVORS THE MONDELLO MACHINE... Dan is part of this racket!

polite ICKS watchr
09-04-2010, 11:13 PM
The Conservative Society for Action (CSA) does not formally endorse candidates. CSA held a series of no holds-barred town hall meetings with candidates hoping to run against local elected officials. Everyone appearing in the forum is rated by the membership on a scale of 1 to 10 as a general guide to how much the members approve of their views and presentation. CSA provide videos of these meetings as a service to its membership and the public at large.

Here's a partial list of the candidates and their ratings:

Senate (full term)
Gary Berntsen: 95%

Senate (2 year term)
Bruce Blakeman: 93%
David Malpass: 89%

Governor
Rick Lazio: 81%
Carl Paladino: 71%

House of Representatives (CD4)
Fran Becker: 49%
Frank : 89%

House of Representatives (CD5)
Milano: 94%

State Senate (SD7)
Jack Martins: 92%

Ratings for other candidates and races can be found at the CSA website.

Ain't it amazing that the guy with the LOWEST score is the only one who actually gots a shot at winning the general election?

Hey I loved Dean Martin - any pal of Deano's is a pal-o-mine!
PAL - A - DINO!

Unre giste red
09-04-2010, 11:20 PM
A candidate only the party bosses could love.

http://img16.imageshack.us/img16/7707/becker49.jpg

FRAN 49% BECKER
09-05-2010, 10:05 PM
A candidate only the party bosses could love.

http://img16.imageshack.us/img16/7707/becker49.jpg

I'M ENTITLED:

MY GRANDFATHER WAS A CONGRESSMAN.
I'VE FOLLOWED PETE SCHMITT'S ORDERS FOR OVER A DECADE.
MONDELLO PICKED ME, FRAN BECKER.

NOTHING ELSE MATTERS.

Pig pen cleaner
09-05-2010, 11:43 PM
I'M ENTITLED:

MY GRANDFATHER WAS A CONGRESSMAN.
I'VE FOLLOWED PETE SCHMITT'S ORDERS FOR OVER A DECADE.
MONDELLO PICKED ME, FRAN BECKER.

NOTHING ELSE MATTERS.

This is why fat Joe's gotta go. High pitched voice Tony can't get elected to supervisor. Both have failed the party. Ra and Cairo are in it for the money, taxpayer money that is. Throw in a Donovan and Kumar, your have a pig pen. Time to clean the pen.

Jay is history after November.

Un re gi st er ed
09-06-2010, 02:02 AM
at first, I was impressed with the csa. However, I now believe most of them just have a grudge againstr the republican party. I heard 2 members declaring hate for Mr Modello. It had to be something personal.

Something personal?

Here's a link to a lovely photo album on Fran's Facebook where he cozies up to CSA members: http://www.facebook.com/BeckerForCongress?v=photos&sb=16#!/album.php?aid=26032&id=132030880156692

All smiles.

No. Nothing personal. Most folks like Fran. He seems a nice guy.

But many good people

1. don't like the way Fran began his late-starting candidacy
2. have serious questions about Fran's performance as a legislator (esp. 1996/2000)
3. think this is the anti-incumbent year and that a 14+ year legislator is an incumbent.
4. don't think much of the "3 generations of my family stuff ..." This is America not England.

We also return in kind the antipathy that Post Avenue has for conservative activists. Sorry Fran. Not your fault, but that's the way it is.

These reasons factors into Fran's worst-ever 49% score.

Nassau's in a fiscal crisis. Keep Financial Planner Fran Becker in Mineola to sort out the crisis he's been working on for 14+ years.

Unregistered4488
09-06-2010, 12:09 PM
I believe the Fran Becker is the best candidate.

brilliant strategy frank
09-06-2010, 12:11 PM
Another brilliant strategy by out of touch, Ivy League Frankie Boy. Alienate your fellow Republican, especially since his flirtation with the right will be short lived. If Frankie wins, he returns to the Beltway smart set vindicated and will act in accordance with the eltie rather than the main street GOPers he looks down upon. Keep in mind that the GOP was n the minority in the legislature from 200 to 2009, and that the Democrats controlled Mineola from 2002 up to 2009. Attacking Becker by repeating Democratic talking points sounds very Democratic. And typical of the tassle loafer set.


Frank cannot play the Federalist Society and CSAs crowds one day and the Beltway/LCR PAC/Arlen Specter crowd the next. Right now Frank can do this because he has no record. Should Frank win the primary, he will need the "Big Tent" Republicans, including those who work for the Town of Hempstead or the NCPD. Frank needs these voters to win agains the entrenched incumbent from a "Safe" Democratic District, especially since is a "low name recognition" candidate.

Also, CSA is a much looser organization than in Suffolk and the Nassau compoment is driven by a group of sometimes very fickle conservative activists who can love you one minute and despise you the next.

Frank should have let the Dan Maloney issue go, as holding hearings accusing volunteers of fraud will hurt him in the long run. These are life long enemies now. CSA may have Frank events on their "Meet Up" Calendar but don't be surprised if they are met with counter protesters, considering the fact that Maloney is very good at organizing counter protests. Also, it is hard to whine about the mainstream political organizations when your group is playing "Obama Games" with the ballot.




Something personal?

Here's a link to a lovely photo album on Fran's Facebook where he cozies up to CSA members: http://www.facebook.com/BeckerForCongress?v=photos&sb=16#!/album.php?aid=26032&id=132030880156692

All smiles.

No. Nothing personal. Most folks like Fran. He seems a nice guy.

But many good people

1. don't like the way Fran began his late-starting candidacy
2. have serious questions about Fran's performance as a legislator (esp. 1996/2000)
3. think this is the anti-incumbent year and that a 14+ year legislator is an incumbent.
4. don't think much of the "3 generations of my family stuff ..." This is America not England.

We also return in kind the antipathy that Post Avenue has for conservative activists. Sorry Fran. Not your fault, but that's the way it is.

These reasons factors into Fran's worst-ever 49% score.

Nassau's in a fiscal crisis. Keep Financial Planner Fran Becker in Mineola to sort out the crisis he's been working on for 14+ years.

U_nregistere_d
09-06-2010, 03:45 PM
Another brilliant strategy by out of touch, Ivy League Frankie Boy. Alienate your fellow Republican, especially since his flirtation with the right will be short lived. If Frankie wins, he returns to the Beltway smart set vindicated and will act in accordance with the eltie rather than the main street GOPers he looks down upon. Keep in mind that the GOP was n the minority in the legislature from 200 to 2009, and that the Democrats controlled Mineola from 2002 up to 2009. Attacking Becker by repeating Democratic talking points sounds very Democratic. And typical of the tassle loafer set.

Answer: Frank is far from being "out of touch", in fact our local issues is his primary concern. Nobody is attacking Becker as much as pointing out he is the reluctant candidate who has never been much of a leader of anything, but sure has mastered the rubber stamp and follows directions well.

Frank cannot play the Federalist Society and CSAs crowds one day and the Beltway/LCR PAC/Arlen Specter crowd the next. Right now Frank can do this because he has no record. Should Frank win the primary, he will need the "Big Tent" Republicans, including those who work for the Town of Hempstead or the NCPD. Frank needs these voters to win agains the entrenched incumbent from a "Safe" Democratic District, especially since is a "low name recognition" candidate.

I beg to differ, Frank enjoys much name recognition, and outside of Lynbrook and western sectors, nobody knows much about Fran. Fran's last minute candidacy is also anything but inspiring. Frank is well known because he's been running for more than a year and has over 5x more campaign funds than Franny-come-lately. Frank is a solid conservative, and if you don't know that, then you haven't done your due diligence, and maybe shouldn't bother to vote in such ignorance. You say he needs to be "big tent" but at the same time criticize reaching out to more liberal republicans. Stop talking out of your @zz. Ok?

Also, CSA is a much looser organization than in Suffolk and the Nassau compoment is driven by a group of sometimes very fickle conservative activists who can love you one minute and despise you the next.

Regardless. They apparently do like and support .

Frank should have let the Dan Maloney issue go, as holding hearings accusing volunteers of fraud will hurt him in the long run. These are life long enemies now. CSA may have Frank events on their "Meet Up" Calendar but don't be surprised if they are met with counter protesters, considering the fact that Maloney is very good at organizing counter protests. Also, it is hard to whine about the mainstream political organizations when your group is playing "Obama Games" with the ballot.

Dan Maloney is full of baloney. No other way to put it. I have watched him and while he does espouse good conservative issues, he is a liar. Lying politicians are dead meat. I don't trust his lying @zz. Period.

you offer rhetoric
09-06-2010, 09:47 PM
Another brilliant strategy by out of touch, Ivy League Frankie Boy. Alienate your fellow Republican, especially since his flirtation with the right will be short lived. If Frankie wins, he returns to the Beltway smart set vindicated and will act in accordance with the eltie rather than the main street GOPers he looks down upon. Keep in mind that the GOP was n the minority in the legislature from 200 to 2009, and that the Democrats controlled Mineola from 2002 up to 2009. Attacking Becker by repeating Democratic talking points sounds very Democratic. And typical of the tassle loafer set.

Answer: Frank is far from being "out of touch", in fact our local issues is his primary concern. Nobody is attacking Becker as much as pointing out he is the reluctant candidate who has never been much of a leader of anything, but sure has mastered the rubber stamp and follows directions well.

Frank cannot play the Federalist Society and CSAs crowds one day and the Beltway/LCR PAC/Arlen Specter crowd the next. Right now Frank can do this because he has no record. Should Frank win the primary, he will need the "Big Tent" Republicans, including those who work for the Town of Hempstead or the NCPD. Frank needs these voters to win agains the entrenched incumbent from a "Safe" Democratic District, especially since is a "low name recognition" candidate.

I beg to differ, Frank enjoys much name recognition, and outside of Lynbrook and western sectors, nobody knows much about Fran. Fran's last minute candidacy is also anything but inspiring. Frank is well known because he's been running for more than a year and has over 5x more campaign funds than Franny-come-lately. Frank is a solid conservative, and if you don't know that, then you haven't done your due diligence, and maybe shouldn't bother to vote in such ignorance. You say he needs to be "big tent" but at the same time criticize reaching out to more liberal republicans. Stop talking out of your @zz. Ok?

Also, CSA is a much looser organization than in Suffolk and the Nassau compoment is driven by a group of sometimes very fickle conservative activists who can love you one minute and despise you the next.

Regardless. They apparently do like and support .

Frank should have let the Dan Maloney issue go, as holding hearings accusing volunteers of fraud will hurt him in the long run. These are life long enemies now. CSA may have Frank events on their "Meet Up" Calendar but don't be surprised if they are met with counter protesters, considering the fact that Maloney is very good at organizing counter protests. Also, it is hard to whine about the mainstream political organizations when your group is playing "Obama Games" with the ballot.

Dan Maloney is full of baloney. No other way to put it. I have watched him and while he does espouse good conservative issues, he is a liar. Lying politicians are dead meat. I don't trust his lying @zz. Period.


There is no defending on his unsuccessful campaign related law suits and his campaign's divisive obsession with Joe Mondello. Frank may be a good congressional staffer but he can't even control his "volunteers" or stay on message. Also, Frank's name recognition will be solely predicated upon his direct mail efforts, any television or radio ads he may launch, and whatever money he has dedicated to GOTV efforts. Face it. This is 's first run for public office. Nobody cares about him.

Plus, in your own "answer" you fail to address campaign attacks upon Becker as a legislator, which essentially were misinformed attacks on the GOP during the entire Suozzi era when they were out of power in Nassau.

How does attacking the GOP help the GOP? It could help in Sept if Frank brings new primary voters out, but it could also help the Democrats in November. Also, Frank could not turn to the GOP and ask for help after he trashed the Nassau Republicans during the primary.

Finally, forcing Maloney workers to testify under oath in Court didn't win him friends but life long enemies. is a divisive and selfish candidate who even if he wins in September, will have a tough time mending the fences with all of those he has alienated.

Unr egi ste red
09-06-2010, 10:36 PM
divisive obsession with Joe Mondello . . . can't even control his "volunteers" . . . attacks upon Becker as a legislator . . . attacking the GOP . . . ask[ing] for help after he trashed the Nassau Republicans forcing Maloney workers to testify . . . a divisive and selfish candidate . . . will have a tough time mending the fences.

It's the same litany of tired half-baked mistruths over and over again.

What is your obsession with ? I've never seen a supposed Republican or Conservative find so many faults with a candidate on his own alleged side. If he's just 1/10th as evil as you suggest, then you should have nothing to worry about. But you are worried, aren't you? Why is that? If you have a heart, if you have a shred a conscience, you'll realize that what you're doing -- in trashing a decent guy -- is just plain wrong. Take a break and do some serious introspection. You're accomplishing nothing, but destroying what little humanity you have left in you with your ridiculous vitriol.

Ladygaga
09-07-2010, 12:16 AM
The only person starting threads on the CSA boards about district 4 is....wait for it...wait for it...oh, what a suprise! Don Derham. Nobody in the CSA really cares about D4 because they are too busy with CD1, CD2 and the Senate race. Guess what, I don't believe that's a legit rating for one second. Only Don Derham is on there "informing" people" about what's going on in D4. It's total BS and you all know it. The whole political maneuvering of the camp is frigtening and, yes, "Obama-esque."

Don, you did a fabulous job photoshopping.

I don't think in the end D4 will fall for it....but we should be outraged et al think so little of us.

why do you hate Mondello
09-07-2010, 12:35 AM
It's the same litany of tired half-baked mistruths over and over again.

What is your obsession with ? I've never seen a supposed Republican or Conservative find so many faults with a candidate on his own alleged side. If he's just 1/10th as evil as you suggest, then you should have nothing to worry about. But you are worried, aren't you? Why is that? If you have a heart, if you have a shred a conscience, you'll realize that what you're doing -- in trashing a decent guy -- is just plain wrong. Take a break and do some serious introspection. You're accomplishing nothing, but destroying what little humanity you have left in you with your ridiculous vitriol.


You hate Mondello. Why are you trashing your chairman?

UnregisteredTed
09-07-2010, 09:20 AM
How do the candidates get rated by the tea party? If a candidate is given a rating of a 49%, what is the total amount of people reflected in the
survey?

False accusations
09-07-2010, 09:31 AM
You hate Mondello. Why are you trashing your chairman?

You quoted my entire post. Nowhere did I even infer a reference to the Chairman. Are you OK? You're critical thinking skills seem a bit tired. For the record, Mondello's OK. He just goofed on this one. Bad advice from foolish men. Happens. Will be water under the bridge Tuesday.

give it up Don
09-07-2010, 09:13 PM
You quoted my entire post. Nowhere did I even infer a reference to the Chairman. Are you OK? You're critical thinking skills seem a bit tired. For the record, Mondello's OK. He just goofed on this one. Bad advice from foolish men. Happens. Will be water under the bridge Tuesday.

The whole campaign is premised upon bitching about Mondello. From the robo calls during the petition drive through the favorable story in the Washington Examiner, it's always been about Mondello and very little about Frank. It is a vacant campaign.

False accusations
09-07-2010, 09:54 PM
The whole campaign is premised upon bitching about Mondello. It is a vacant campaign.

Just another coward lying. Hard to argue with great mailings, TV ads and a phone program -- not ONE of which mentions Mondello. Sounds like soe-loser talk already little girl.

Dont Cry Frankie
09-07-2010, 10:20 PM
Just another coward lying. Hard to argue with great mailings, TV ads and a phone program -- not ONE of which mentions Mondello. Sounds like soe-loser talk already little girl.

Maybe the mailings and tv ads will do better than the law suits. Law suits didnt go too well.

UnregisteredLI
09-09-2010, 08:03 AM
I went to CSA's website to find an explanation for the 49% figure, but there is none. What is 49% based on? What issues is Fran Becker liberal on?

Unregisteredliars
09-09-2010, 01:45 PM
They Lie and then they convince the masses of the lie.

Here in NY your best bet is to Vote for anyone the tea party
does not support.
!!

Unregis tered
09-09-2010, 05:11 PM
NOT voting for Gary Berntsen is the thing to do b/c he is supported by the tea parties. NOT Voting for Carl Paladino is the thing to do b/c he is supported by the tea parties....

If you are part of the same ol same ol, go-along to get-along who suck at the teet of the political machines then I could see where you are coming from being against the true candidate for the people. The tea party movements are all about restoring the power to the everyday taxpayers in this country who are sick and tired of the same ol same ol and the go-along to get-along mentalities that have given us record high debts, near record unemployment levels, bloated government structures that do not work and the general indifferent attitudes of the political elites who think they own us....WELL... GUESS WHAT?!!!! YOUR TIME IS UP!

This year, we say NO MORE!... This year, we say... WE OWN YOU!

Ignore the Tea Parties at your own Peril!

Unregisteredliars
09-09-2010, 07:55 PM
"General indifferent attitudes of the political elites who think they own us"
then why are you supporting Chris Cox? Who is just another cog in the wheel of the political machine, party puppet, Daddy's little boy....

Your backing of Cox discredits your entire movement!

UnregisteredLI
09-10-2010, 06:27 AM
I grew up knowing who Fran Becker is, and he's a good guy and I still think he's a better candidate, but was outstanding in the debate in Hewlett the other night. That being said, where the hell is any kind of explanation as to how Fran is "49%" conservative?

Unregisteredliars
09-10-2010, 09:03 AM
49% of what? The Tea party people are liars who twist the truth
and distort the facts.

Unregistered684531
09-10-2010, 10:12 AM
The Tea Party: foot soldiers for the ultra-rich ruling class in this country. The irony is that they think they are supporting anti-tax candidates, but the policies ultra-far right candidates espouse will actually make the lives of regular Joes even more difficult. You guys are doing the bidding for the corporate interests that reign supreme over our political system and you are voting against the interest of both yourselves and every other average, hardworking American out there. Look at the Big Picture!

The only good thing to come out of this will be TP-backed candidates will win primaries. Then the general public -- which is decidedly middle of the road when it comes to policy -- will get to see just what these guys want and will reject them outright. I predict that 2012 will see the Tea Party trend fade away with massive losses.

Unregistered4044
09-10-2010, 10:49 AM
the tea party started off with the best intentions. Unfortunately, it attracted several people who saw an opportunity to be a leader. Ego takes over. All of a sudden, there is chaos, jealousy, protests. I did reconigze several people who belonged to a political party previously (actually throw out, or just quit because "didn't do what I said") who were very vocal. All the negative chants and accusations are very discouraging. At least, they did made some people aware of the importance of the vote. yj

Unregistered no con 2
09-10-2010, 05:32 PM
the tea party started off with the best intentions. Unfortunately, it attracted several people who saw an opportunity to be a leader. Ego takes over. All of a sudden, there is chaos, jealousy, protests. I did reconigze several people who belonged to a political party previously (actually throw out, or just quit because "didn't do what I said") who were very vocal. All the negative chants and accusations are very discouraging. At least, they did made some people aware of the importance of the vote. yj

This sound like a post of Dan Donovan of the conservative party who opposes the tea parties.

Unregistered5589
09-10-2010, 06:41 PM
who pays for all the mailings?? Can't wait for primaries to be over.

Open ur eyes
09-10-2010, 07:27 PM
The Tea Party: foot soldiers for the ultra-rich ruling class in this country. The irony is that they think they are supporting anti-tax candidates, but the policies ultra-far right candidates espouse will actually make the lives of regular Joes even more difficult. You guys are doing the bidding for the corporate interests that reign supreme over our political system and you are voting against the interest of both yourselves and every other average, hardworking American out there. Look at the Big Picture!

The only good thing to come out of this will be TP-backed candidates will win primaries. Then the general public -- which is decidedly middle of the road when it comes to policy -- will get to see just what these guys want and will reject them outright. I predict that 2012 will see the Tea Party trend fade away with massive losses.

The democrat party: Foot soldiers for the ultra-leftist elitist crowd, including ultra-rich leftists like George Soros. They hoodwink the masses with free handouts, I can go on, but its time for dinner and you aren't worth my time anyway...

Unregisteredliars
09-10-2010, 07:33 PM
First you say you are Conservatives, when most of you are Republicans
Then you say you want to help fix the Republican party but then you
go and try and create another line that will hurt the two parties who you are supposed to be allies with. Are you sure some of you are not
Obama plants? Or do you see a way to get into the game and
have become like the rest of them where money and power out weighs the
good of the people.

UnregisteredLI
09-10-2010, 09:03 PM
Will Someone Explain What 49% Means/is Based On???

He's 51% Short
09-10-2010, 09:12 PM
Will Someone Explain What 49% Means/is Based On???

Put simply, it means that he is 51% short of expectations. Raising taxes is not conservative, nor is voting a colleagues large raise right after the new session.

UnregisteredLI
09-10-2010, 11:49 PM
Put simply, it means that he is 51% short of expectations. Raising taxes is not conservative, nor is voting a colleagues large raise right after the new session.

What...is...the...standard...of...measurement????? ?????????????????????????????????????????????????? ?????????


Does anyone else feel like supporters are reenacting a scene from Spinal Tap? I'm not even a diehard Becker guy, I just want to know what your numbers are based on. How do you put someone who has never held elected office and rate him against someone who has?

even better still
09-11-2010, 12:32 AM
The Log Cabin Republicans - who donated to 's campaign - brought a lawsuit to challenge the Constitutionality of "Don't Ask, Don't Tell." is now going to have to address his Log Cabin Republican ties and either a) give back the money, or b) state his opposition to the LCR litigation.

Unregistered fklfkklf
09-11-2010, 02:08 AM
The Log Cabin Republicans - who donated to 's campaign - brought a lawsuit to challenge the Constitutionality of "Don't Ask, Don't Tell." is now going to have to address his Log Cabin Republican ties and either a) give back the money, or b) state his opposition to the LCR litigation.

Does this poster like to wrestle??

Unregisteredgjhjgj
09-11-2010, 02:18 AM
Does this poster like to wrestle?

Yup. He's either a frustrated Conservative Party guy wrestling with his own Gay demons or a cowardly hack at the BoE. Haven't figured out which and don't care that much either. The one small LCR PAC donation has been discussed so many times that it's a long dead issue. 's solidly socially conservative -- unlike many Republicans supported by the -bashers here. Poor people too dense to realize their own hypocrisy.

UnregisteredLI
09-11-2010, 02:34 AM
The Log Cabin Republicans - who donated to 's campaign - brought a lawsuit to challenge the Constitutionality of "Don't Ask, Don't Tell." is now going to have to address his Log Cabin Republican ties and either a) give back the money, or b) state his opposition to the LCR litigation.

Why did the LCR give money to a supposed Tea Party candidate? Where is there evidence of this?

Unregitered
09-11-2010, 02:44 AM
Why did the LCR give money . . . .

Asked and answered many times. Not worthy of discussion. Per its questionnaire, this group will endorse neither Becker nor .

It's rather sad that a repressed gay in Nassau politics is trying to use this to attack a bonafide social conservative, but these folks are a little twisted,

BruceBlakemanFan
09-11-2010, 03:16 AM
So Bruce Blakeman...is he conservative or not?? He was GOP leader when 49% Fran made all of his 'not conservative' votes. Quote from the Fran blog "Bruce Blakeman said this will raise taxes on average by $90" The CSA gave Blakeman a 92% Conservative rating...higher than FRANK's rating....but Blakeman was Fran's leader...so I'm confused...Fran gets 49% rating for votes he made in the 90's and Blakeman gets 92% for those same votes??

If Fran voted with Blakeman 100% of the time shouldn't he have the same CSA score as Blakeman?? I don't get it...does this mean that the CSA rating that Frank is basing his whole campaign on is complete Bullsh$$. Please say it aint so???

The Real Fran Becker
09-11-2010, 04:02 AM
So Bruce Blakeman...is he conservative or not? If Fran voted with Blakeman 100% of the time shouldn't he have the same CSA score as Blakeman? I don't get it...

Fact: Fran said on his own blog that he was honored to be with CSA.
Fact: CSA rated Fran 49%

Blakeman is a nice guy, but irrelevant to any discussion of the 4th CD.

Are you saying that Fran voted with Bruce 100% of the time?
I know Fran votes with Pete 100% of the time.

Can't you get it through your thick skull that voters don't want a "votes with 100% of the time" representative. That's the whole point of this primary.

Unregisteredmousetrap
09-11-2010, 05:11 AM
Fact: Fran said on his own blog that he was honored to be with CSA.
Fact: CSA rated Fran 49%

Fact: Mickey Mouse gave Frank a 37% conservative rating. In other words, Frank is 63% liberal! The diabolical fiend!!!

Unregistered olkkl
09-11-2010, 08:56 AM
Fact: Mickey Mouse gave Frank a 37% conservative rating. In other words, Frank is 63% liberal! The diabolical fiend!!!

So. Fran Becker's resorting to Mickey Mouse facts now? More proof that Fran is just not cut out to be in Congress.

UnregisteredLI
09-11-2010, 09:18 AM
So. Fran Becker's resorting to Mickey Mouse facts now? More proof that Fran is just not cut out to be in Congress.

Mickey Mouse and the CSA have an equal basis for their ratings.

NothingRightLTD
09-11-2010, 10:03 AM
Fact: Fran said on his own blog that he was honored to be with CSA.
Fact: CSA rated Fran 49%

Blakeman is a nice guy, but irrelevant to any discussion of the 4th CD.

Are you saying that Fran voted with Bruce 100% of the time?
I know Fran votes with Pete 100% of the time.

Can't you get it through your thick skull that voters don't want a "votes with 100% of the time" representative. That's the whole point of this primary.

That's right the Primary voters want people like Arlen Specter (Frank's mentor) who think outside the box when casting critical votes. Sometimes Democrat, sometimes Republican depending on the issue.

Can the Real Frank please tell us how he would have voted if he was in Fran's shoes back in 1997 - 2000. I would like to know what he would have done if he was in Fran's position. Would he have voted with the Democrats (which you are contending was the right thing to do) or would he have voted with CSA rated 92% cool Bruce Blakeman.

Would he have turned on his leadership?...because that is what we need right now in Washington...someone who is going to vote against the Republican leadership when it suits them. Frank will vote with Nancy Pelosi when it is the right thing to do because he puts principle above Party!

You are contending that we shouldn't have parties at all? Just a band of independent thinkers. Why is Frank even running as a Republican - why didn't he start his own party. It makes a lot of sense to go around and trash the party you are vying to get the nomination.

fantasy strategy - Pre Sept 14 tell everyone that the Republicans stink but after Sept 14 switch gears and get everyone to try to vote Republican...because after all that would have been the only line on the ballot he would have had. Amateur hour.

Please tell us, faced with the same issues as Fran in the late 90's how would Frank have voted? I like your idea though...start telling all the Primary voters that Frank would have done the right thing and voted with the Democrats.

And Blakeman is totally relevant because he was the Republican leadership during the time when Fran has been 'indicted' for some 'unconservative votes' on the anti-Fran blog. If Blakeman is an okay, 92% Conservative dude and his record back in the 90s doesn't matter to anyone because he 'grasps' the issues now...which is more important his record or his words?? I guess in Camp Scatmandu it is all talk no walk. Typical.

Like Obama... talks a good game... We all know how well things turned out the last time the voters went for someone articulate and spoke well and said all of the right things. Was he at Columbia the same time Frank was there right? I love politicians that don't have a record and you have to take their word for it. Because no one has ever said one thing to the voters before the election, and done another thing after.

And Fran was honored to be with CSA that day of the protest. He made a lot of friends who said they would vote for him in the Primary.

Unregisteredggghh
09-11-2010, 10:06 AM
Mickey Mouse and the CSA have an equal basis for their ratings.

Mickey Mouse gave everyone else a great rating except hapless Fran Becker who once blogged that he was honored to be with Mickey Mouse.

Go figure or better yet - give it up. Fran's a really nice guy, but clearly not cut out to be a congressman.

You just don't get it. Sure. Fran will tell Nancy Pelosi "no," just as he told Tom Suozzi "no." But voters also want someone who will tell Tom Gulotta, Pete Schmitt and John Boehner "no" when they do foolish things. Fran's a total follower - he's never stood up to his own party when it's wrong NEVER! NOT ONCE. Fran doesn't lead; he follows. And that, my sad confused friend is what this primary is about. We don't need someone with four lines to be McCarthy, we need a leader like Frank .

Massgoer
09-11-2010, 10:25 AM
AMEN to that!!!

RFB11563
09-11-2010, 11:13 AM
The Real Fran Becker

Fran Becker Indignantly Covers Ups His Tax & Spend Record
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tKso33yKbFQ

Is Fran Becker Really A Conservative?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N6WkDnSb4Zo

Fran Becker Resorts To False Personal Attacks
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mKxR-EPEID0

What Is Fran Even Talking About? We Think He Is Trying To Talk About Israel...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=isZe87-fOp4

[u]Here Are The Facts[u]

1998: Fran Becker voted for a 3.6% property tax increase
- Date of Vote: October 31, 1998
- Becker Vote Confirmed: Yes – news articles

The Budget for 1999 was approved days before the November elections. In closed meetings in the early morning hours, the members of the County Legislature revamped County Executive Thomas S. Gulotta’s proposed budget, which included no tax increase, because, they said, it relied too heavily on one-time revenues like county land sales. Instead, the legislature opted for a property tax increase of 3.6 to 4.5 percent...
New York Times, “Nassau Accused of Deceit on Tax Increase”, Dec 30, 1998
http://www.nytimes.com/1998/12/30/nyregion/nassau-accused-of-deceit-on-tax-increase.html


1999: Fran Becker voted for the MTA Debt Swapping Plan that would ultimately cost taxpayers $240,000,000
- Date of Vote: April 26, 1999
- Becker Vote Confirmed: Yes

Infuriating Democrats, Republicans in the Nassau County Legislature approved a plan last week to accept a $70 million cash payment from the Metropolitan Transportation Authority in exchange for borrowing $140 Million to finance authority purchases of trains and engines for the Long Island Rail Road. The Plan will allow County Executive Thomas S. Gulotta, who has been under criticism for budgetary practices that critics and credit agencies say have led the county into financial difficulties, to use the $70 million to help close budget a deficit that is now above $200 million and is forecast to top $300 million by the end of the year. But it will cost county taxpayers about $240 million when borrowing costs on 25-year bonds are included, Democrats who opposed the plan said. The Democrats said the swift approval of the plan was an example of the kind of one-shot financing that county officials had vowed to stop.
New York Times, “Democrats Fume, G.O.P. Shrugs As Nassau Trades Debt for Cash”, 5/2/99
http://www.nytimes.com/1999/05/02/nyregion/democrats-fume-gop-shrugs-as-nassau-trades-debt-for-cash.html


1999: Fran Becker voted for a 9.4% property tax hike and $5,000,000 in new fees as part of the 2000 budget
- Date of Vote: October 30, 1999
- Becker Vote Confirmed: Yes

Faced with a weekend budget deadline and elections on Tuesday, the Nassau County Legislature early this morning approved a new budget for the year 200 that would eliminate this year’s $300 million deficit, cut spending new year by $45 million and, for the first time in seven years, impose a major increase in property taxes. The final vote was 14 to 4, with only Democrats dissenting. One Democrat was absent. The county’s portion of the tax bill for the average home owner will increase by $90, or about 9 percent, said the Presiding Officer, Bruce Blakeman.
New York Times, “Nassau County Republicans Pass Budget With large Tax Increase”. 10/30/99
http://www.nytimes.com/1999/10/30/nyregion/nassau-county-republicans-pass-budget-with-large-tax-increase.html


1999: Becker Voted for a Real Estate Transfer Tax
- Date of Vote: August 9, 1999
- Becker vote confirmed: Yes

During the drive to pass a new state budget in Albany this week, Nassau’s Republican leaders persuaded the tax-cut-minded Governor and State Senate to force a new countywide property-transfer tax through the State Assembly, costing anyone selling property $1,000 for every $100,00 in the price.
New York Times. “Political Memo; Nassau G.O.P. Unruffled Despite All the Red Ink.” 8/9/99
http://www.nytimes.com/1999/08/09/nyregion/political-memo-nassau-gop-unruffled-despite-all-the-red-ink.html


2000: Becker Voted for 700% Gun fee increase
- Date of Vote: June 14, 2000
- Becker Vote Confirmed: Yes

For the last six months, nearly every public meeting of the Nassau County Legislature has been punctuated by the anguished appeals of social workers deploring the budget cuts made to the county’s social service agencies. When the Legislature met here today, though there were no such complaints. Under a budget accord reached Monday, the cash-starved county agreed to restore $1 million to the social service agencies this year and more next year. But there were plenty of complaints from another aggrieved group: handgun owners and enthusiasts. The gun owners were upset that the county has decided to raise revenues by increasing the fee for pistol permit to $200 from $40, and the fee for a renewal to $200 from $25. And they came here to tell the Legislature about it in no uncertain terms.
New York Times, “Pistol Owners Raise Protest as Nassau Increases Fees”, June 15, 2000
http://www.nytimes.com/2000/06/15/nyregion/pistol-owners-raise-protest-as-nassau-increases-fees.html


2000: Becker Votes for higher park fees in March of 2000
- Date of Vote: March 20, 2000
- Becker Vote Confirmed: Yes

The plan calls for fee increases for county parks, health services and public works that would bring in $3.5 million this year and $11 million in a full year, an official said in the Gulotta administration said. Mr. Gulotta will call an emergency session of the county Legislature on Monday to vote on the fees, the official said.
New York Times, “Nassau Executive readies Fiscal Plan Focusing on Fee Increases and Service Cuts”, March 16, 2000
http://www.nytimes.com/2000/03/16/nyregion/nassau-executive-readies-fiscal-plan-focusing-on-fee-increases-and-service-cuts.html


2000: Becker Voted against $109,000,000 in spending cuts
- Date of Vote: November 11, 2000
- Becker Vote Confirmed: Yes

Today, the Democratic Majority in the Legislature brought up those vetoes, one by one. But they failed each time to muster the Republican votes needed to override Mr. Gulotta, and every vote ended with nine Democrats opposing seven Republicans.
New York Times, “Nassau Democrats Fail to Override Vetoes to Their Budget”, 11/10/00
http://www.nytimes.com/2000/11/10/nyregion/nassau-democrats-fail-to-override-vetoes-to-their-budget.html


2000: Becker Voted against a spending oversight committee
- Date of Vote: November 9, 2000
- Becker Vote Confirmed: Yes
-
Mr. Gulotta, in line item veoting the 2001 budget, the cornerstone of the Democratic majority’s four year financial plan, he also vetoed the bullet-proof budget for fiscal year 2002, and rejected any possibility for financial stability in years 2003 and 2004, which was required as part of the mandate from the Nassau Interim Finance Authority (NIFA).
Nassau County Legislature, District 10 homepage, “Services, Safety Jeopardized As GOP Joins Gulotta’s Vetoes”

To UnregisteredLI
09-11-2010, 11:36 AM
Why did the LCR give money to a supposed Tea Party candidate? Where is there evidence of this?

The Evidence is on the FEC website.

http://query.nictusa.com/cgi-bin/can_give/2009_H0NY04057

If Frank is considered a Tea Party candidate, then he is also one who accepted Log Cabin money. This issue becomes more important now that the Log Cabin Republicans asserted a successful legal challenge to the military's "don't ask, don't tell" policy.

The problem isn't so much with sexual identity as it is in supporting an organization which used the Court system to dictate military policy. Clearly, the Obama Administration is trying to hide behind a court order instead of changing the policy by executive order. Not only allowing but encouraging the Courts to intervene in military governance invites further judicial overstepping. By bringing this lawsuit, the Log Cabin Republicans offer the Administration cover on this issue, and the President can claim that he is merely obeying a Court Order. Also, bringing the suit in the 9th Circuit assures a liberal outcome should the District Court's Order be appealed.

Using the Courts to make or justify liberal social policy is one of the biggest complaints that conservatives have about the judicial system. Clearly, a "Constitutional Scholar" has to weigh in on this issue, especially when he accepted a donation from the organization which brought the law suit.
http://www.newsday.com/news/nation/judge-military-s-ban-on-gays-is-unconstitutional-1.2275372

needs to clarify his views on this issue. Or offer proof that he returned the donation. Or say that he agrees with the LCR on this issue.

Frank Facts
09-11-2010, 11:58 AM
If Frank is considered a Tea Party candidate, then he is also one who accepted Log Cabin money. This issue becomes more important now that the Log Cabin Republicans asserted a successful legal challenge to the military's "don't ask, don't tell" policy. needs to clarify his views on this issue. Or offer proof that he returned the donation. Or say that he agrees with the LCR on this issue.

is an unabashed social conservative who opposes the gay agenda. You've found the time to pore over nearly a thousand donations and found just this one small donation to whine about. I'd love to conduct a witch hunt of Becker's donations, but there just aren't that many to bother with. It's rather droll to see the Nassau GOP and Conservative Party establishment -- notorious for being pro-gay and socially liberal -- attacking a social conservative with this nonsense.

Now onto:

The Real Fran Becker

Courtesy of http://realfranbecker.blogspot.com

Fran Becker Indignantly Covers Ups His Tax & Spend Record
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tKso33yKbFQ

Is Fran Becker Really A Conservative?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N6WkDnSb4Zo

Fran Becker Resorts To False Personal Attacks
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mKxR-EPEID0

What Is Fran Even Talking About? We Think He Is Trying To Talk About Israel...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=isZe87-fOp4

Here Are The Facts

1998: Fran Becker voted for a 3.6% property tax increase
- Date of Vote: October 31, 1998
- Becker Vote Confirmed: Yes – news articles

The Budget for 1999 was approved days before the November elections. In closed meetings in the early morning hours, the members of the County Legislature revamped County Executive Thomas S. Gulotta’s proposed budget, which included no tax increase, because, they said,

it relied too heavily on one-time revenues like county land sales. Instead, the legislature opted for a property tax increase of 3.6 to 4.5 percent...
New York Times, “Nassau Accused of Deceit on Tax Increase”, Dec 30, 1998
http://www.nytimes.com/1998/12/30/nyregion/nassau-accused-of-deceit-on-tax-increase.html


1999: Fran Becker voted for the MTA Debt Swapping Plan that would ultimately cost taxpayers $240,000,000
- Date of Vote: April 26, 1999
- Becker Vote Confirmed: Yes

Infuriating Democrats, Republicans in the Nassau County Legislature approved a plan last week to accept a $70 million cash payment from the Metropolitan Transportation Authority in exchange for borrowing $140 Million to finance authority purchases of trains and engines

for the Long Island Rail Road. The Plan will allow County Executive Thomas S. Gulotta, who has been under criticism for budgetary practices that critics and credit agencies say have led the county into financial difficulties, to use the $70 million to help close budget

a deficit that is now above $200 million and is forecast to top $300 million by the end of the year. But it will cost county taxpayers about $240 million when borrowing costs on 25-year bonds are included, Democrats who opposed the plan said. The Democrats said

the swift approval of the plan was an example of the kind of one-shot financing that county officials had vowed to stop.
New York Times, “Democrats Fume, G.O.P. Shrugs As Nassau Trades Debt for Cash”, 5/2/99
http://www.nytimes.com/1999/05/02/nyregion/democrats-fume-gop-shrugs-as-nassau-trades-debt-for-cash.html


1999: Fran Becker voted for a 9.4% property tax hike and $5,000,000 in new fees as part of the 2000 budget
- Date of Vote: October 30, 1999
- Becker Vote Confirmed: Yes

Faced with a weekend budget deadline and elections on Tuesday, the Nassau County Legislature early this morning approved a new budget for the year 200 that would eliminate this year’s $300 million deficit, cut spending new year by $45 million and, for the first time in

seven years, impose a major increase in property taxes. The final vote was 14 to 4, with only Democrats dissenting. One Democrat was absent. The county’s portion of the tax bill for the average home owner will increase by $90, or about 9 percent, said the

Presiding Officer, Bruce Blakeman.
New York Times, “Nassau County Republicans Pass Budget With large Tax Increase”. 10/30/99
http://www.nytimes.com/1999/10/30/nyregion/nassau-county-republicans-pass-budget-with-large-tax-increase.html


1999: Becker Voted for a Real Estate Transfer Tax
- Date of Vote: August 9, 1999
- Becker vote confirmed: Yes

During the drive to pass a new state budget in Albany this week, Nassau’s Republican leaders persuaded the tax-cut-minded Governor and State Senate to force a new countywide property-transfer tax through the State Assembly, costing anyone selling property $1,000 for

every $100,00 in the price.
New York Times. “Political Memo; Nassau G.O.P. Unruffled Despite All the Red Ink.” 8/9/99
http://www.nytimes.com/1999/08/09/nyregion/political-memo-nassau-gop-unruffled-despite-all-the-red-ink.html


2000: Becker Voted for 700% Gun fee increase
- Date of Vote: June 14, 2000
- Becker Vote Confirmed: Yes

For the last six months, nearly every public meeting of the Nassau County Legislature has been punctuated by the anguished appeals of social workers deploring the budget cuts made to the county’s social service agencies. When the Legislature met here today, though there

were no such complaints. Under a budget accord reached Monday, the cash-starved county agreed to restore $1 million to the social service agencies this year and more next year. But there were plenty of complaints from another aggrieved group: handgun owners and

enthusiasts. The gun owners were upset that the county has decided to raise revenues by increasing the fee for pistol permit to $200 from $40, and the fee for a renewal to $200 from $25. And they came here to tell the Legislature about it in no uncertain terms.
New York Times, “Pistol Owners Raise Protest as Nassau Increases Fees”, June 15, 2000
http://www.nytimes.com/2000/06/15/nyregion/pistol-owners-raise-protest-as-nassau-increases-fees.html


2000: Becker Votes for higher park fees in March of 2000
- Date of Vote: March 20, 2000
- Becker Vote Confirmed: Yes

The plan calls for fee increases for county parks, health services and public works that would bring in $3.5 million this year and $11 million in a full year, an official said in the Gulotta administration said. Mr. Gulotta will call an emergency session of the county

Legislature on Monday to vote on the fees, the official said.
New York Times, “Nassau Executive readies Fiscal Plan Focusing on Fee Increases and Service Cuts”, March 16, 2000
http://www.nytimes.com/2000/03/16/nyregion/nassau-executive-readies-fiscal-plan-focusing-on-fee-increases-and-service-cuts.html


2000: Becker Voted against $109,000,000 in spending cuts
- Date of Vote: November 11, 2000
- Becker Vote Confirmed: Yes

Today, the Democratic Majority in the Legislature brought up those vetoes, one by one. But they failed each time to muster the Republican votes needed to override Mr. Gulotta, and every vote ended with nine Democrats opposing seven Republicans.
New York Times, “Nassau Democrats Fail to Override Vetoes to Their Budget”, 11/10/00
http://www.nytimes.com/2000/11/10/nyregion/nassau-democrats-fail-to-override-vetoes-to-their-budget.html


2000: Becker Voted against a spending oversight committee
- Date of Vote: November 9, 2000
- Becker Vote Confirmed: Yes
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Mr. Gulotta, in line item vetoing the 2001 budget, the cornerstone of the Democratic majority’s four year financial plan, he also vetoed the bullet-proof budget for fiscal year 2002, and rejected any possibility for financial stability in years 2003 and 2004, which was

required as part of the mandate from the Nassau Interim Finance Authority (NIFA).
Nassau County Legislature, District 10 homepage, “Services, Safety Jeopardized As GOP Joins Gulotta’s Vetoes”

CopyPaste
09-11-2010, 04:47 PM
I am going to copy paste the last portion of the blog and call it the REAL BRUCE BLAKEMAN and then email Bruce's team and tell them that Frankie's friends put it together! They will be so grateful!! 92% CSA rated awesome Bruce Blakeman has the same voting record as Fran Becker!!

WWFD
09-11-2010, 04:50 PM
What would Frank do - would he have voted with the Democrats???

Un-registered
09-11-2010, 05:31 PM
What would Frank do - would he have voted with the Democrats???

Of course not. Frank, being a solidly conservative republican, would fight the democrats at every opportunity. But even more, Frank is a leader and is fully capable of drafting pro-conservative legislation in a proactive manner - before the opposition. That's the skill set we need in this district.

Unregistered201010
09-11-2010, 08:15 PM
Of course not. Frank, being a solidly conservative republican, would fight the democrats at every opportunity. But even more, Frank is a leader and is fully capable of drafting pro-conservative legislation in a proactive manner - before the opposition. That's the skill set we need in this district.

Frank is also capable of standing up to his party's leader when they're wrong.

C'mon. Does anyone familiar with the player think Frank ever stood up to Blakeman or Schmitt? Voters want a leader not a follower.

bendin over
09-11-2010, 08:49 PM
Frank is also capable of standing up to his party's leader when they're wrong.

C'mon. Does anyone familiar with the player think Frank ever stood up to Blakeman or Schmitt? Voters want a leader not a follower.

I have to agree with you. wrote a book with that conservative icon Arlen Specter for God's sake! That is exactly how much of a suck up to the boss he is! The evidence is pretty clear that he's a stealth liberal.

ecwt5bbb8
09-11-2010, 09:03 PM
The evidence is pretty clear that he's a stealth liberal.

Nah. You have very poor critical reasoning skills. Not worth picking apart your statement. I will write:

Thousands of conservatives know Frank to be a conservative.
The biggest Tea party group rated 90% (Fran 49%)
The leaders of the conservative lawyers group back him 100%

You're simply demented. I feel so sad for you.

Unregisteredecw
09-11-2010, 09:38 PM
Nah. You have very poor critical reasoning skills. Not worth picking apart your statement. I will write:

Thousands of conservatives know Frank to be a conservative.
The biggest Tea party group rated 90% (Fran 49%)
The leaders of the conservative lawyers group back him 100%

You're simply demented. I feel so sad for you.

Did you ever ask yourself why a 38 year old has $200k for his own campaign, but can't seem to find a wife?

Unregisteredfrankie
09-11-2010, 09:40 PM
It's easy to call out someone else's voting record when you don't have one of your own

Unregisteredecw
09-11-2010, 09:41 PM
Did you ever ask yourself why a 38 year old has $200k for his own campaign, but can't seem to find a wife?

No. You don't care about all Fran's votes to tax, spend and borrow, but this does bother you? Don't you think you're a little mental?

Unregisteredecw
09-11-2010, 09:58 PM
No. You don't care about all Fran's votes to tax, spend and borrow, but this does bother you? Don't you think you're a little mental?

I'm concerned about Fran's votes for spending while he served in county govt. But that doesn't mean this 49% has any validity whatsoever, and it won't have validity as long as the ranking is shrouded in secrecy

this is delicious
09-11-2010, 10:12 PM
Did you ever ask yourself why a 38 year old has $200k for his own campaign, but can't seem to find a wife?

I thought Frank wasn't working right now because he was focused on the campaign. How did he self finance to that level? First $62K or so in his first reporting period and now up to $200K. Methinks the person posing the question knows where the $200K came from. Has anyone looked into this, or are we taking Mr. 's word on this one.

Unregisteredecw
09-11-2010, 10:38 PM
I thought Frank wasn't working right now because he was focused on the campaign. How did he self finance to that level? First $62K or so in his first reporting period and now up to $200K. Methinks the person posing the question knows where the $200K came from. Has anyone looked into this, or are we taking Mr. 's word on this one.

62k is a somewhat older number. Check open secrets;
http://www.opensecrets.org/races/summary.php?id=NY04&cycle=2010

Candidate self-financing $212,000 (38%)

Unregisteredli
09-11-2010, 10:40 PM
62k is a somewhat older number. Check open secrets;
http://www.opensecrets.org/races/summary.php?id=NY04&cycle=2010

Candidate self-financing $212,000 (38%)

By the way, that's the first time anybody provided objective evidence in this entire thread.

interesting stuff
09-11-2010, 11:01 PM
62k is a somewhat older number. Check open secrets;
http://www.opensecrets.org/races/summary.php?id=NY04&cycle=2010

Candidate self-financing $212,000 (38%)

Frank reached into his own pocket then? if the website says so it must be true. How did he pull another $150K out of his own pocket? How much did he make at Hofstra? Did he do other work? Outside legal practice? Writing? Consulting? I thought he dedicated all of his time to the campaign?

Did Frank get a share of some of the money from the Specter Book? Why not just put the whole $212K into his race during the first reporting period? This additional $150K must have been more recent. Does Frank have to declare the source of this money? Or does the FEC just accept the reporting as self-financing? This is alittle confusing. I hope there is some knowledgeable supporter who can explain all of this.

Unregisteredeeccd
09-11-2010, 11:34 PM
How much has Financial Planner Frannie Pecker, scion of the legendary dynasty, put into his cashless campaign? Are you envious of Frank that he saved enough over the years to do this?

aahhh sorrrryyyyy
09-12-2010, 12:00 AM
just messin with you. asked a question I know the answer to. just wanted to see if you knew too.

UnregisteredLI
09-12-2010, 12:02 AM
How much has Financial Planner Frannie Pecker, scion of the legendary dynasty, put into his cashless campaign? Are you envious of Frank that he saved enough over the years to do this?

Hats off to Frank for making the money, but I don't see where it fits into his narrative. He definitely wasn't making 6 figures as a Congressional staffer, and I doubt he got it from his salary at Hofstra, so where did it come from? Did he inherit it? Does he consider having Wall St in his past to be something shameful? I'm just wondering where a guy who has more or less bounced from civil service job to academia has >200k laying around?

And I'm not some TOMTOMTOMTOMTOMTOM plant, if that's what you're implying. I saw the video and Frank won that debate hands down. But, I still think the CSA and their 49% are total bullshit.

Unregisteredecw
09-12-2010, 12:03 AM
Really Fran?!?

Courtesy of this website. (http://bit.ly/cLm54g)

Fran Indignantly Covers Ups His Tax & Spend Record
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tKso33yKbFQ

Is Fran Really A Conservative?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N6WkDnSb4Zo

Fran Resorts To False Personal Attacks
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mKxR-EPEID0

What Is Fran Even Talking About? We Think He Is Trying To Talk About Israel...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=isZe87-fOp4

http://img192.imageshack.us/img192/7048/reallyfran.jpg
(1)New York Times, “Nassau Accused of Deceit on Tax Increase,” Dec 30, 1998 http://www.nytimes.com/1998/12/30/nyregion/nassau-accused-of-deceit-on-tax-increase.html
(2)New York Times, “Democrats Fume, G.O.P. Shrugs As Nassau Trades Debt for Cash”, 5/2/99 http://www.nytimes.com/1999/05/02/nyregion/democrats-fume-gop-shrugs-as-nassau-trades-debt-for-cash.html
(3)New York Times, “Nassau County Republicans Pass Budget With large Tax Increase.” 10/30/99 http://www.nytimes.com/1999/10/30/nyregion/nassau-county-republicans-pass-budget-with-large-tax-increase.html
(4)New York Times. “Political Memo; Nassau G.O.P. Unruffled Despite All the Red Ink.” 8/9/99 http://www.nytimes.com/1999/08/09/nyregion/political-memo-nassau-gop-unruffled-despite-all-the-red-ink.html
(5)New York Times, “Pistol Owners Raise Protest as Nassau Increases Fees,” June 15, 2000 http://www.nytimes.com/2000/06/15/nyregion/pistol-owners-raise-protest-as-nassau-increases-fees.html
(6)New York Times, “Nassau Executive readies Fiscal Plan Focusing on Fee Increases and Service Cuts,” March 16, 2000 http://www.nytimes.com/2000/03/16/nyregion/nassau-executive-readies-fiscal-plan-focusing-on-fee-increases-and-service-cuts.html
(7)New York Times, “Nassau Democrats Fail to Override Vetoes to Their Budget,” 11/10/00 http://www.nytimes.com/2000/11/10/nyregion/nassau-democrats-fail-to-override-vetoes-to-their-budget.html
(8)Nassau County Legislature, District 10 homepage, “Services, Safety Jeopardized As GOP Joins Gulotta’s Vetoes.” http://www.nassaucountyny.gov/agencies/legis/LD/10/NewsRelease/Archive/10Nov10.html
(9)Newsday, “Mangano orders another look at GOP raises,” http://www.newsday.com/long-island/nassau/mangano-orders-another-look-at-gop-raises-1.1725831
http://img821.imageshack.us/img821/7707/TOMTOMTOMTOMTOMTOM49.jpg

Unregisteredecw
09-12-2010, 12:12 AM
Hats off to Frank for making the money, but I don't see where it fits into his narrative. I still think the CSA and their 49% are total bullshit.

Read his online bio. He was a lawyer in private practice. He'll tell you that he lived well below his means so that he could buy a home in New Hyde Park and save a lot of money so that he might someday be able to do this. Now I know the real Pecker lovers will try to find some fault with this, but only because they're consumed with hatred and envy.

Nobody wants to answer the question: how much money did Pecker Put in the pot. In June, he told Newsday $50,000, but that amount never showed up in his filings.

you're getting warm
09-12-2010, 12:13 AM
Hats off to Frank for making the money, but I don't see where it fits into his narrative. He definitely wasn't making 6 figures as a Congressional staffer, and I doubt he got it from his salary at Hofstra, so where did it come from? Did he inherit it? Does he consider having Wall St in his past to be something shameful? I'm just wondering where a guy who has more or less bounced from civil service job to academia has >200k laying around?

And I'm not some TOMTOMTOMTOMTOMTOM plant, if that's what you're implying. I saw the video and Frank won that debate hands down. But, I still think the CSA and their 49% are total bullshit.

you're putting it together <wink>

JudyPepenella
09-13-2010, 08:18 PM
Just a quick note to all about the rating process.

Each candidate that we screen is given a chance to give a 10-15 minute speech about their plan and/or ideas for the office they are seeking. Then the members get up and ask very targeted questions - ranging from rumor control related issues through direct targeted issue related questions. The members then rate the candidate from 1-10, 1 being worst to 10 being best. We take an average of the ratings and that is how we rate the candidates here at CSA.

Please go to our website and view the candidate rating videos to see how candidates did.
http://www.csa-1776.org.

Thank you

SILENT NO MORE

Judy Pepenella
Conservative Society for Action
Executive Board
http://www.csa-1776.org
Twitter: JudyPep & CSA1776
csa.1776@yahoo.com
http://www.meetup.com/CSA-1776-Meetup-Group/
631-940-2019

JudyPepenella
09-13-2010, 08:18 PM
Just a quick note to all about the rating process.

Each candidate that we screen is given a chance to give a 10-15 minute speech about their plan and/or ideas for the office they are seeking. Then the members get up and ask very targeted questions - ranging from rumor control related issues through direct targeted issue related questions. The members then rate the candidate from 1-10, 1 being worst to 10 being best. We take an average of the ratings and that is how we rate the candidates here at CSA.

Please go to our website and view the candidate rating videos to see how candidates did.
http://www.csa-1776.org.

Thank you

SILENT NO MORE

Judy Pepenella
Conservative Society for Action
Executive Board
http://www.csa-1776.org
Twitter: JudyPep & CSA1776
csa.1776@yahoo.com
http://www.meetup.com/CSA-1776-Meetup-Group/
631-940-2019

UnregisteredGOP
09-14-2010, 12:56 PM
http://www.youdontknowjackmartins.com/

UnregisteredLI
09-14-2010, 06:14 PM
Just a quick note to all about the rating process.

Each candidate that we screen is given a chance to give a 10-15 minute speech about their plan and/or ideas for the office they are seeking. Then the members get up and ask very targeted questions - ranging from rumor control related issues through direct targeted issue related questions. The members then rate the candidate from 1-10, 1 being worst to 10 being best. We take an average of the ratings and that is how we rate the candidates here at CSA.

Please go to our website and view the candidate rating videos to see how candidates did.
http://www.csa-1776.org.

Thank you

Just a quick note to all about the rating process.

Each candidate that we screen is given a chance to give a 10-15 minute speech about their plan and/or ideas for the office they are seeking. Then the members get up and ask very targeted questions - ranging from rumor control related issues through direct targeted issue related questions. The members then rate the candidate from 1-10, 1 being worst to 10 being best. We take an average of the ratings and that is how we rate the candidates here at CSA.

Please go to our website and view the candidate rating videos to see how candidates did.
http://www.csa-1776.org.


That's the least scientific, most subjective system I've ever heard. No wonder someone with an identical voting record got a different rating. So under your system, if one or many of your "members" has a vendetta or any kind of prejudice against a candidate for any reason, then they can give whatever rating they want. I've never heard of a political organization rate candidates using such a dubious standard. But I do applaud you for having the courage to flaunt your deeply flawed system and allow everyone to shred it in public view.

how true
09-14-2010, 08:39 PM
That's the least scientific, most subjective system I've ever heard. No wonder someone with an identical voting record got a different rating. So under your system, if one or many of your "members" has a vendetta or any kind of prejudice against a candidate for any reason, then they can give whatever rating they want. I've never heard of a political organization rate candidates using such a dubious standard. But I do applaud you for having the courage to flaunt your deeply flawed system and allow everyone to shred it in public view.

The brilliant Suffolk County based CSA drank the hohumhohumhohumhohumhohumhohumhohumhohum/Derham Kool Aid in those rankings. Hope they do better in their own County. See Ya!

Unregisteredurdone
09-15-2010, 09:59 AM
I could be wrong but I think your 49% rated candidate won last night.

Cox Lost Frank Lost
09-15-2010, 09:22 PM
But Paladino won, so not bad for the CSA if they can jump on the Paladino band wagon.

Unregistered3wayrace
09-17-2010, 09:01 AM
If Lazio stays on the Conservative line then you have a 3-way race and
that gives the Cuomo the best chance at winning.

November 2nd will prove if I am right or wrong but I don't see where CSA
picked a winner in any of the races.

Unregistered11/2010
09-22-2010, 01:18 PM
Agreed, the CSA doesn't really have a single winning horse in the race except for Paladino.
Paladino wins, the CSA wins and gains tremendous credibility. All the other races are now fairly irrelevant.
So it is not over until it is over... Let's see what happens in November!

Unregistered11/2010
09-22-2010, 01:22 PM
"Win" defined..... Over 50,000 votes on the Tax Payer line

Doable for sure!!!

Unregisterednotreally
09-22-2010, 10:00 PM
Agreed, the CSA doesn't really have a single winning horse in the race except for Paladino.
Paladino wins, the CSA wins and gains tremendous credibility. All the other races are now fairly irrelevant.
So it is not over until it is over... Let's see what happens in November!

CSA are jumping on the Paladino band wagon. The CSA are front runners. They're the type of people who pick "their" football team after the League championships.

Unregisteredurdone
09-24-2010, 07:26 PM
The CSA leaders are only concerned with forming the taxpayer line
and not Taking Back America. I find it interesting that they would support Cox and the republicans during the first round. Then throw the
republicans under the bus by voting for Paladino on the taxpayer line.
They seem to pick their candidates based on which way the wind is blowing.
I only mention this because Demos was the TEA party hero but he got
zero support from all the leaders of the Suffolk County Tea Parties.
Interesting how that played out.