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08-26-2010, 09:59 PM
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SECOND JUDICIAL DEPARTMENT

In the Matter of Frank J. , etc., appellant-respondent, et al., petitioners, v Francis X. Becker, etc., et al., respondents-appellants, et al., respondents. (Proceeding No. 1)
In the Matter of Edward F. Griffin, Jr., et al., respondents-appellants, Nassau County Board of Elections, respondent, Frank J. , appellant-respondent. (Proceeding No. 2)

DECISION & ORDER

In a proceeding pursuant to Election Law § 16-102, inter alia, to invalidate a so-called Wilson-Pakula certificate (see Election Law § 6-120[3]) authorizing Francis X. Becker to appear on the ballot in a primary election to be held on September 14, 2010, for the nomination of the Conservative Party as its candidate for the public office of Representative in Congress from the 4th Congressional District, and to compel the issuance of a so-called Wilson-Pakula certificate to Frank J. authorizing him to appear on that ballot for that nomination, and a related proceeding pursuant to Election Law § 16-102, among other things, to invalidate the designating petition of Frank J. to appear on that ballot for that nomination, Frank J. appeals from a final order of the Supreme Court, Nassau County (Winslow, J.), dated August 16, 2010, which, after a hearing, denied his petition, and, in effect, granted the petition in the related proceeding, and Francis X. Becker, j7j7j7j7j7 Blessinger, Roger Bogsted, Vincent Ciccolella, Kevin J. Crean, Daniel F. Donovan, Jr., John Fanning, Maryann T. Hughes, Daniel Lang, James McKenna, Dan McLane, Christopher Mistron, Maryann Webb, Edward F. Griffin, Jr., Richard Deangelis, Helen Goldman, and Patrick Florio II, cross-appeal from stated portions of the same final order.

ORDERED that the cross appeal is dismissed, without costs or disbursements, as Francis X. Becker, j7j7j7j7j7 Blessinger, Roger Bogsted, Vincent Ciccolella, Kevin J. Crean, Daniel F. Donovan, Jr., John Fanning, Maryann T. Hughes, Daniel Lang, James McKenna, Dan McLane, Christopher Mistron, Maryann Webb, Edward F. Griffin, Jr., Richard Deangelis, Helen Goldman, and Patrick Florio II, are not aggrieved by the final order (see CPLR 5511); and it is further,

ORDERED that the final order is affirmed, without costs or disbursements.

"The failure to file any petition or certificate relating to the designation or nomination of a candidate for party position or public office . . . within the time prescribed by the provisions of [the Election Law] shall be a fatal defect" (Election Law § 1-106[2]; see Matter of Plunkett v Mahoney, 76 NY2d 848; Matter of Carr v New York State Bd. of Elections, 40 NY2d 556, 556-559; Matter of Amo v Orange County Bd. of Elections, 286 AD2d 454; Matter of Cosgrove v Sunderland, 253 AD2d 504). Since courts are without the discretion to permit the late filing of a so-called Wilson-Pakula certificate (see Matter of Amo v Orange County Bd. of Elections, 286 AD2d 454; Matter of Cosgrove v Sunderland, 253 AD2d 504), we need not, under the circumstances of this case, where the deadline for filing has passed, address the contention of Frank J. that the Conservative Party should be compelled to issue a so-called Wilson-Pakula certificate authorizing him to appear on the ballot in a primary election for the nomination of the Conservative Party as its candidate for the public office of Representative in Congress from the 4th Congressional District.

Since, in light of the foregoing, has no legal basis upon which to assert a claim that he is entitled to the authorization of the Conservative Party for designation as its candidate, he therefore has no standing as an aggrieved candidate to seek to invalidate the so-called Wilson-Pakula certificate issued to and filed on behalf of Francis X. Becker (see Matter of Fehrman v New York State Bd. of Elections, 10 NY3d 759, 760; Matter of Cane v Mahoney, 40 NY 2d 819, 820). Nor does 's status as a candidate for the nomination of the Republican Party for the same public office give rise to standing as an aggrieved candidate to challenge Becker's authorization, "because his challenge relates to the internal functioning of a political party of which he is not an enrolled member" (Matter of MacKay v Johnson, 54 AD3d 428, 430; see Matter of Nicolai v Kelleher, 45 AD3d 960, 962-963).

In light of our determination, the parties' remaining contentions have been rendered academic.

SECOND JUDICIAL DEPARTMENT

In the Matter of Frank J. , etc., et al., appellants-respondents, v. Daniel P. Maloney, etc., respondent-appellant, Nassau County Board of Elections, et al., respondents.

DECISION & ORDER

In a proceeding pursuant to Election Law § 16-102, inter alia, to invalidate a petition designating Daniel P. Maloney as a candidate in a primary election to be held on September 14, 2010, for the nomination of the Republican Party as its candidate for the public office of Representative in Congress from the 4th Congressional District, the petitioners appeal from a final order of the Supreme Court, Nassau County (Winslow, J.), dated August 16, 2010, which, after a hearing, in effect, denied the petition and dismissed the proceeding, and Daniel P. Maloney cross-appeals from stated portions of the same final order.

ORDERED that the cross appeal is dismissed, without costs or disbursements, as Daniel P. Maloney is not aggrieved by the final order (see CPLR 5511); and it is further,

ORDERED that the final order is reversed, on the law, without costs or disbursements, the petition and the proceeding are reinstated, and the matter is remitted to the Supreme Court, Nassau County, for further proceedings in accordance herewith, to be held forthwith, and a new determination on the petition thereafter in accordance herewith.

In this "anticipatory" invalidation proceeding, the petitioners raised objections to the designating petition of candidate Daniel P. Maloney, alleging, inter alia, that certain signatures on the designating petition were the result of forgery or fraud, and that some dates relating to certain other signatures on the petition had been altered without such alterations being initialed. In addition, the petitioners challenged certain signatures on the designating petitions where the name had been [*2]printed by the signatories, rather than signed in script.

At a hearing held before the Supreme Court, the petitioners, seeking to invalidate the challenged signatures, presented documentary evidence which was reviewed by the Supreme Court. During the hearing, the Supreme Court reserved its ruling with respect to the majority of the challenged signatures, pending an anticipated determination of the Nassau County Board of Elections (hereinafter the Board) with respect to the validity of those signatures. Subsequently, the Board, in effect, concluded that Maloney's designating petition was valid "pending court determination." The Supreme Court ultimately adopted the Board's "rulings on petition objections," which set forth the Board's conclusions.

"It is settled that boards of election have no power to deal with questions of fact or with objections involving matters not appearing upon the face of the [designating] petition, and that such extrinsic matters, if any, are to be determined in court proceedings only" (j7j7j7j7j7j7j7j7 v Heffernan, 304 NY 474, 480). Boards of election are vested only with the authority to perform a "ministerial examination" of a designating petition (j7j7j7j7j7j7j7j7 v Heffernan, 304 NY at 480; see Matter of Feustel v Garfinkle, 29 AD3d 831, 831-832; Matter of Sullivan v New York City Bd. of Elections, 224 AD2d 565; Matter of Bednarsh v Cohen, 267 App Div 133, 135; Matter of Waters v Cohen, 248 App Div 830). Thus, it is not within the power of a board of elections to make determinations respecting issues of fact (see Matter of Feustel v Garfinkle, 29 AD3d at 831-832; Matter of Bednarsh v Cohen, 267 App Div at 135; Matter of Waters v Cohen, 248 App Div at 830).

Here, the petitioners' objections to numerous signatures raised issues of fact as to the validity of those signatures, including issues with respect to allegations of fraud and forgery. However, on the record before us, our review is hampered because it is unclear whether the Supreme Court made specific independent factual findings and determinations with respect to these issues. As it was only within the authority of the Supreme Court to make such factual determinations, the matter must be remitted to the Supreme Court, Nassau County, to revisit the petitioners' evidence, as previously presented with respect to the challenged signatures, and make determinations as to whether those signatures are valid or invalid (see Matter of Feustel v Garfinkle, 29 AD3d at 831-832). After such review, if the Supreme Court should find a sufficient quantity of signatures to be invalid so as to render the designating petition invalid, Maloney shall be entitled to present rebuttal evidence with regard to those invalidated signatures (see Oberman v Romanowski, 65 AD3d 992, 993). The Supreme Court shall thereafter make a new determination on these issues in resolving this proceeding.

We note that the petitioners' objections based upon alleged defects and alterations contained in the subscribing witness statement on certain sheets of the designating petition are without merit (see Election Law §§ 6-132[2], 6-134[9]; Matter of Galante v Ferrara, 307 AD2d 1007; Matter of Berkowitz v Harrington, 307 AD2d 1002, 1003; Matter of Vekiarelis v Del Villar, 286 AD2d 464; Matter of Goodstein v Ross, 196 AD2d 615), and that there is, consequently, no need for the Supreme Court to revisit these objections on remittal.

Ciccolella
08-26-2010, 10:09 PM
What does this mean?

translation
08-26-2010, 10:39 PM
Frankiessssssss outtttaaaaa thereeeeeee......if he continues he is officially the spoiler......

Unregisteredjon
08-27-2010, 12:01 AM
Scaturra just accept it. good riddance.

senate litigous
08-27-2010, 12:02 AM
goes back to supreme to try to throw a tea party candidate off the ballot will doom himself to spoiler,washington insider,arlen spector wannabe with no place to go but to toss barnie frank's and joe's salad at the monster.

underdogz
08-27-2010, 04:48 PM
Better watch yourself. All the negative posting on here about Frank Scaturra may just turn it around for him. People love to see the underdog win.

Explain it please...
08-27-2010, 06:58 PM
As an observer, I do not understand something, and I invite whoever wishes to comment.

If the campaign has records of the C-Party meeting, the minutes of which say he had earned a Wilson-Pakula, then it is incumbent upon the C-Party to honor it. So what if each candidate has a WP? Nowhere in this did I read that there was a disagreement as to whether he earned the WP before the Court. Whether the C-Party "filed" it before or after some deadline seems to be a different issue entirely. If the man contends he was given the WP and the C-Party cannot prove that it was not earned, I don't see why he is not entitled to it. The timeliness of a filing is not the candidates fault; it is the negligence of the party. I don't understand how wouldn't be granted relief.

scaturro signs
08-27-2010, 07:09 PM
all over woodmere, hewlett and cedarhurst (somewhat illegal). maybe the Rep Jews are voting for . I think not.

Pray for ;
he is the man
when he loses
Derham will get a tan.

brains anyone?
08-27-2010, 07:14 PM
all over woodmere, hewlett and cedarhurst (somewhat illegal). maybe the Rep Jews are voting for . I think not.

Pray for ;
he is the man
when he loses
Derham will get a tan.

What an idiotic post. Is there nobody here who is highbrow enough to answer the questions in the previous post? He/she raised some great questions and I'd like to hear the answers too.

Itsthelaw
08-27-2010, 08:44 PM
As an observer, I do not understand something, and I invite whoever wishes to comment.

If the campaign has records of the C-Party meeting, the minutes of which say he had earned a Wilson-Pakula, then it is incumbent upon the C-Party to honor it. So what if each candidate has a WP? Nowhere in this did I read that there was a disagreement as to whether he earned the WP before the Court. Whether the C-Party "filed" it before or after some deadline seems to be a different issue entirely. If the man contends he was given the WP and the C-Party cannot prove that it was not earned, I don't see why he is not entitled to it. The timeliness of a filing is not the candidates fault; it is the negligence of the party. I don't understand how wouldn't be granted relief.

I understand your postion, but it is flawed, as the judges have ruled. Bottom line is, Frank failed at both the Supreme and Appelant level. Thus, this mighty scholar was proven wrong.

It was Franks burden to prove it was ACTUALLY given to him, not the C to proved they didn't. Frank could not prove his case, thus he is now nothing but a spoiler handing the election to the democrats.

Unregiste red
08-27-2010, 09:06 PM
Dan Maloney and Fran Becker are the spoilers... neither one could beat Carolyn McCarthy and we'd be poorly served if they did. Dan would blame his 'new' staff for gaffes and errors and Fran would be kissing Mondello's rump and not acting on behalf of the 4th CD residents.

This battle against Pelosi's twin, Carolyn was a longshot to begin with, but certainly winnable in this anti-incumbent environment, especially when Carolyn just phones it in... but it required the opposition (us) to unite behind the strongest candidate from the get-go and bring the momentum to retire Carolyn forward... now, we've practiced fratricized and Carolyn is laughing all the way to her mansion in Southhampton!!!!

enter insurance
08-27-2010, 09:47 PM
It's the law. And now Derham has to go bye bye. Maybe concentrate on the Lindsay campain where his company is heavily invested.

lcr packed
08-27-2010, 09:49 PM
Dan Maloney and Fran Becker are the spoilers... neither one could beat Carolyn McCarthy and we'd be poorly served if they did. Dan would blame his 'new' staff for gaffes and errors and Fran would be kissing Mondello's rump and not acting on behalf of the 4th CD residents.



Wonder whose "ass" Frank will be kissing in Washington.. or worse.... if you know what I mean.

he will try
08-27-2010, 10:38 PM
the ass of the new congressman, fran becker, who will have four lines and will be the winner.then he will tend to other matters with bernard frank.

Unregiste red
08-28-2010, 01:19 AM
he's got nothin... he couldn't win even if he had the democrat line as well... Fran Becker came too late to the dance and even Mondello doesn't want him to win, just wants Frank to lose!

Joe needs 2 go
08-28-2010, 08:06 AM
he's got nothin... he couldn't win even if he had the democrat line as well... Fran Becker came too late to the dance and even Mondello doesn't want him to win, just wants Frank to lose!

And if that's true then Joe is a POS and needs to be removed.

JoeDerham
08-28-2010, 09:25 AM
And if that's true then Joe is a POS and needs to be removed.

Frank overestimated himself and abilities. He is dragging the ticket down. Have some grace and back out. What a bitter little man

Unregistered whining
08-28-2010, 09:56 AM
frank paige.

UnregisteredPOS
08-28-2010, 02:17 PM
And if that's true then Joe is a POS and needs to be removed.



Frank and Don Derham are dingleberries on the pubes of the body politic.

Unregiste red
09-01-2010, 12:15 PM
is really sad and a pisspoor commentary on this site to allow this degrading elementary school name calling to continue. The FOCUS should be on getting the strongest candidate to beat Carolyn McCarthy... that candidate is Frank .... Fran doesn't even have any signs up in the district, at all. Of course, since Fran is Mondello's stooge, it doesn't matter too much, the TOH employees have all been threatened that they know who they must vote for... that speaks real well....NOT!

Joe Mondello is rigging this thing and the only one to benefit with be the Mondello Machine. If Fran wins the primary, Carolyn McCarthy will make mincemeat outta him, just like she did his brother Greg! Becker is only famous in his own head! Mondello will be laughing all the way to the bank!

Unregistered wipe
09-01-2010, 11:41 PM
is really sad and a pisspoor commentary on this site to allow this degrading elementary school name calling to continue. The FOCUS should be on getting the strongest candidate to beat Carolyn McCarthy... that candidate is Frank .... Fran doesn't even have any signs up in the district, at all. Of course, since Fran is Mondello's stooge, it doesn't matter too much, the TOH employees have all been threatened that they know who they must vote for... that speaks real well....NOT!

Joe Mondello is rigging this thing and the only one to benefit with be the Mondello Machine. If Fran wins the primary, Carolyn McCarthy will make mincemeat outta him, just like she did his brother Greg! Becker is only famous in his own head! Mondello will be laughing all the way to the bank!

The good news is that once Becker wins the primary, the dingleberries will be wiped from the body politic. forever.

Prognosticatrix
09-02-2010, 12:11 AM
The good news is that once Becker wins the primary, the dingleberries will be wiped from the body politic. forever.

Agreed. But what if he loses? What then? What of you? Really? What does this say about you in the unlikely event that Frans loses? I like all three men, but I will vote for Fran DESPITE your nonsense. Grow up. If you were my husband or son, I'd be pretty ashamed of you because of the despicable nonsense you've said.

which three men
09-02-2010, 12:21 AM
Agreed. But what if he loses? What then? What of you? Really? What does this say about you in the unlikely event that Frans loses? I like all three men, but I will vote for Fran DESPITE your nonsense. Grow up. If you were my husband or son, I'd be pretty ashamed of you because of the despicable nonsense you've said.

Becker, , and Maloney? Becker and Maloney are ok. not so good.

Unregis tered
09-02-2010, 10:59 AM
a fake, phoney, and fraud as Bob Grant likes to say. Maloney is all about Maloney, he has shown a continued careless attitude about the people he supposedly cares for... he knows he cannot win, he constantly polls a distant 2nd at best, and he has no ability to beat McCarthy, yet he stays in the race because he believes only HE can save the world. It's a sad, sad thing seeing an older man clinging to the last vestiges of his "fame", even at the cost of everyone else in the 4th CD!

a distant second
09-02-2010, 08:22 PM
a fake, phoney, and fraud as Bob Grant likes to say. Maloney is all about Maloney, he has shown a continued careless attitude about the people he supposedly cares for... he knows he cannot win, he constantly polls a distant 2nd at best, and he has no ability to beat McCarthy, yet he stays in the race because he believes only HE can save the world. It's a sad, sad thing seeing an older man clinging to the last vestiges of his "fame", even at the cost of everyone else in the 4th CD!

So Maloney is beating then in some of the polls.

Unreg istered
09-02-2010, 09:27 PM
Stop hallucinating! Maloney is barely a blip on the radar. remains the front runner and will give Becker a run for the money (or his lack thereof).

jimbean
09-02-2010, 09:40 PM
Stop hallucinating! Maloney is barely a blip on the radar. remains the front runner and will give Becker a run for the money (or his lack thereof).


If Frank is the front runner, why is he giving Fran a run for the money?

JacknCoke
09-06-2010, 11:31 PM
If Frank is the front runner, why is he giving Fran a run for the money?

hahaha...good point... The supporters are not as bright as their fearless leader. Just remember...and tell all of your friends. A vote for Frank is a vote for Carolyn McCarthy. There is no way Frank can win the General without the Conservative Line. All of the starry eyed dreaming and finger crossing isn't going to make that pipe dream come true.

Becker is the only one that can win.

Becker even has the bonus of the Independence Line....that is huge. Voting for Frank is a big fat waste of time. Friends don't let friends vote for Frank.

Unregis tered
09-07-2010, 01:48 AM
How's Fran gonna win without the GOP line?!
Fran has $60K in his campaign, of which he lent himself $50K.. check the FEC filing. How the HECK is Fran gonna win against Carolyn's nearly MILLION DOLLAR fund?!
Fran's an insider and this is an outsider/oursider year... Frank is the Fresh Independent Voice for US. Much like Joe Miller, Ken Buck, and many other young republican insurgents....

Mr Wipple
09-07-2010, 05:43 PM
Frank is lucky if his mom lets him stay out past dark. He will wet his diaper once he loses on the 14th

Mr Wipple
09-07-2010, 06:15 PM
I sorry that I wrote that. I am a little slow and dont understan much. My moomy made me apopogive to Frank. she wont let me wach Spong Bob Squrpantz until i say soory