PDA

View Full Version : Are the Nassau County Young Republicans racist?


05-17-2005, 02:43 PM
On the Nassau County Young Republican website, President Chris Bastardi states "Tom Suozzi's plan, to deal with housing is to build low income housing complexes to increase the base of the Democratic Party. Unfortunately, it seems he will be able to accomplish that goal unless we stop his plans now."

So is Mr. Bastardi saying that only poor people are democrats. Is he implying minorities communities in this? This statement seems to reinforce the idea that republicans are a party of the rich and elite and have no regard for minorities and people of poor economic standing.

Minute
05-17-2005, 03:30 PM
with the exception of Dennis Dunne.

politicsland
05-17-2005, 03:30 PM
They deny it but they are using code-words to scare thier base. Bastardi is no better than Schmitt and Rhoads with thier lying ways.


Souzzi Watch (http://www.souzziwatch.blogspot.com)

On the Nassau County Young Republican website, President Chris Bastardi states "Tom Suozzi's plan, to deal with housing is to build low income housing complexes to increase the base of the Democratic Party. Unfortunately, it seems he will be able to accomplish that goal unless we stop his plans now."

So is Mr. Bastardi saying that only poor people are democrats. Is he implying minorities communities in this? This statement seems to reinforce the idea that republicans are a party of the rich and elite and have no regard for minorities and people of poor economic standing.

Not a Racist
05-17-2005, 03:39 PM
Finally a Democrat that just comes out and makes the accusation. I applaud and pity you at the same time. Personally, I am sick of the implication that I am a racist because I oppose Suozzi's plans for the future of Nassau County.

I will not speak for Mr. Bastardi. I have never met him before, and couldn't effectively comment on the below statement. I will, however, voice my own personal beliefs regarding the low income housing issue.

Additional low income housing in Nassau County would be a mistake. Before we plan for any development, we need to plan as to how our infrastructure will respond. I am not only talking about sewers, roads, and electricity. I am talking about schools, parks, police, garbage collection and disposal, and the overall quality of civil services we all enjoy. Low income housing developments are designed to be population dense, and will have a direct impact on an infrastructure that is struggling already (Thanks Tom Suozzi).

The foundation of this county has always been the middle class. The Republicans (and I hope someone will correct me if I am speaking out of turn) are responding to legitimate concerns of their constituency. They do not want to grow Nassau County through low income housing. They feel to do so would exacerbate a problem that they precieve as growing...declining/overcrowded schools, rising gang influence, more crime, higher taxes (thanks again Suozzi), etc. If you are a Republican living in Nassau County, this is exactly what you have seen happen in Suozzi's tenure, as he has turned a blind eye to the issues that the Middle Class feel are most important.

Note: All of what I said above does not implicate race. You have infused the "race card" into the discussion.

On the Nassau County Young Republican website, President Chris Bastardi states "Tom Suozzi's plan, to deal with housing is to build low income housing complexes to increase the base of the Democratic Party. Unfortunately, it seems he will be able to accomplish that goal unless we stop his plans now."

So is Mr. Bastardi saying that only poor people are democrats. Is he implying minorities communities in this? This statement seems to reinforce the idea that republicans are a party of the rich and elite and have no regard for minorities and people of poor economic standing.

05-17-2005, 03:50 PM
The race issue was based on the statement made by Mr. Bastardi. I personally do not believe that the Republican Party is racist, but that statement equating low income housing and the increase of the democratic party base really sounds like it means one thing. I am curious about other interpretations of that statement!

05-17-2005, 04:43 PM
You've all got it wrong. "Affordable" housing is anti-capitalist. Things will even out if the market is allowed to work as it should.

By subsidizing lower income folk (in West Virginia, they're white) and giving tax breaks to the wealthy and businesses, you only serve to overburden the middle class and artificially inflate prices by limiting the supply of market value domiciles.

Not-Racist
05-17-2005, 05:20 PM
I believe another rational interpretation would be that the people benefiting from the low income housing espoused by Democrats would likely vote Democrat. Again...race has not been mentioned.

The race issue was based on the statement made by Mr. Bastardi. I personally do not believe that the Republican Party is racist, but that statement equating low income housing and the increase of the democratic party base really sounds like it means one thing. I am curious about other interpretations of that statement!

05-17-2005, 07:17 PM
I don't think he has it wrong. They are not talking about the subsidies. They are talking about the effects. You're right though...why should the middle class subsidize a program that is ultimately going to cost them more to bring the infrastructure up to speed with the development?

Thanks for fleshing out the issue.

You've all got it wrong. "Affordable" housing is anti-capitalist. Things will even out if the market is allowed to work as it should.

By subsidizing lower income folk (in West Virginia, they're white) and giving tax breaks to the wealthy and businesses, you only serve to overburden the middle class and artificially inflate prices by limiting the supply of market value domiciles.

Suozzi's Group Is
05-17-2005, 09:37 PM
It's the administrators that Suozzi hired who appear racist. Look up Killer Kids in the library. It's by the County Attorney's $125K office manager, Peter Reinharz, who lives in Queens and apparently believes all black, latino and italian kids are pre-determined to commit crimes and have anger problems and should all be locked up until they're adults because it's their genetic determination. Only white, jewish kids seem to escape this bad gene according to him.

Icrackmyselfup
05-18-2005, 03:10 AM
I don't even know why you people are discussing this. ALL REPUBLICANS ARE RECIST, Not just the Nassau County ones and not just the young ones. Besides, they are learning racism from their racist, closed minded, lunatic parents.
But as for the concern here in NC, no worries, republicans are dropping off quicker than the sweat beads on Peter Schmitt's face during session! :lol: :lol: :lol:

it is what it is what it
05-18-2005, 03:33 AM
why did the administrator delete the thread about affordable housing? because people talked about how hempstead went from a beautiful neighborhood into a rathole after the change in demographics and how we're sick of the blacks in roosevelt thinking their entitled to live in garden city even though they can't afford it - like alot of whites can't afford it. Instead the whites live where they can afford (which thanks to the lawsuit the roosevelt idiots brought increasing everyone's assessment is pretty limited these days) but the blacks sue for discrimination and demand low income housing - suspiciously both suits brought by democrat freddy brewington who supports suozzi and it's suozzi who wants to put up these low income high rises all over - like in garden city which is fighting him over the sale of the department of social services.

Liberal Scum
05-18-2005, 02:48 PM
Thanks for taking this where it didn't need to be. Can you define prejudice?

I don't even know why you people are discussing this. ALL REPUBLICANS ARE RECIST, Not just the Nassau County ones and not just the young ones. Besides, they are learning racism from their racist, closed minded, lunatic parents.
But as for the concern here in NC, no worries, republicans are dropping off quicker than the sweat beads on Peter Schmitt's face during session! :lol: :lol: :lol:

Prejudice
05-18-2005, 09:47 PM
Sure - no problem. People that are prejudiced are people that think they have an entitlement to live in expensive, affluent neighborhoods even when they can't afford the price of the homes there - and believe that everyone else - including other people who also can't afford to live there - owe it to them to build them housing in those neighborhoods and sell it to them cheap and then, when people refuse to do that -- they sue everyone and claim they are being excluded from well maintained neighborhoods because of the color of their skin. THOSE people are prejudiced - against the whole world. What the NEED is a smack of reality on the inside of their skulls and a judge to finallyl declare they aren't OWED anything anymore - those days are done.

The Truth about YR's
05-19-2005, 01:16 AM
They are not rascists, just ignorant and in search of jobs.

They are ENTITLED
05-19-2005, 03:02 AM
IT's not ignorance and alot of them work - just like alot of whites work but still can't afford home ownership. The difference is they feel ENTITLED - and we thank affirmative action for that.

05-19-2005, 04:00 AM
I don't even know why you people are discussing this. ALL REPUBLICANS ARE RECIST, Not just the Nassau County ones and not just the young ones. Besides, they are learning racism from their racist, closed minded, lunatic parents.
But as for the concern here in NC, no worries, republicans are dropping off quicker than the sweat beads on Peter Schmitt's face during session! :lol: :lol: :lol:

You have got to be kidding me. How can anybody use a blanket statment to describe a whole group of people. Sure, there are some rasicst Republicans, but there are also racist Democrats (case and point Dem Senator Robert Byrd, he's a KKK). I take personal offense to your implication that I am a racist on the basis of my political affliation. Secondly, how dare you imply that my parents who are Jewish Liberal Democrats are lunatics. They are the most tolerant people, and have taught me their same values. I feel very sorry for you that you have such a closed minded bigoted view of the world and the people in it. No wonder 2005 will be called the year of the Republican in Nassau County, when the Democrats have such sorry excuses of human beings like yourself representing their party. A little bit of history for you- Abraham Lincoln was a Republican and he more than any other President in US History has preserved and protected the rights of African Americans. With that in mind, I wonder would you call Abe Lincoln a rasicst?

Case in Point
05-20-2005, 01:36 AM
The people of Roosevelt voted down their school district budget - I guess education isn't too important - and this is a neighborhood where almost every kid is going to the public school. They want to live in Garden City - which approved their school district budget - when many of the kids are going to private schools anyway? If they think they can move into low budget rentals and "fit in" to the Garden City lifestyle - they better think long and hard before they attempt that. It'll be especially rough for their kids - who can never keep up with their peers. It's not about racism - it's about socieoeconomic status. Think about it. Work for it. Earn it. Then move. When you can actually afford to fit in.

Racially Profiling
05-22-2005, 03:40 PM
Some black woman from hempstead drags 12 whining kids into a park that is only for garden city residents and used primarily by senior citizens in a quiet way and the cops tell her to leave - and somehow that gets translated by the liberal core as racial profiling? Because blacks are asked to show residency but whites aren't , knowing that it's a garden city only park and knowing that blacks don't live there ? You have a murder and look in the park. You see 5 people. 4 People are sitting there reading the paper, minding their own business. 1 person is sitting there with a suitcase, blood dripping from his shirt. NOW the cop isn't allowed to go to the guy with the suitcase and the blood dripping unless he first questions the other 4 people? What's wrong with the Hempstead residents using their own parks or the county parks? You don't see garden city residents invading hempstead facilities. Take care of your own property first - then you won't have to use somebody elses.

05-23-2005, 03:12 PM
Some black woman from hempstead drags 12 whining kids into a park that is only for garden city residents and used primarily by senior citizens in a quiet way and the cops tell her to leave - and somehow that gets translated by the liberal core as racial profiling? Because blacks are asked to show residency but whites aren't , knowing that it's a garden city only park and knowing that blacks don't live there ? You have a murder and look in the park. You see 5 people. 4 People are sitting there reading the paper, minding their own business. 1 person is sitting there with a suitcase, blood dripping from his shirt. NOW the cop isn't allowed to go to the guy with the suitcase and the blood dripping unless he first questions the other 4 people? What's wrong with the Hempstead residents using their own parks or the county parks? You don't see garden city residents invading hempstead facilities. Take care of your own property first - then you won't have to use somebody elses.

If Garden City would vote Democratic, these complaints wouldn't get to first base. Since they don't, expect GC to picked apart piece by piece over the next 20 years.

Big donor base
05-23-2005, 06:03 PM
Actually - you can now expect Garden City to help carry a republican landslide in 2005. Believe me, I know some well off black families living in the Garden City area - and they don't want trash moving into their neighborhood either. They worked damn hard to afford their 1/2 million dollar home, and their kids can afford every luxury every other kid in the neighborhood can afford. They don't want them being influenced by the type of troublemakers Brewington is aligning himself with. IT'S not a racial thing. Never has been. It's about EQUALITY and true EQUALITY means just that - nobody gets a handout or special rights or special privileges. When you earn the right to live in a million dollar neighborhood - you belong. (unless you're Tom Suozzi who gets free money but real estate developer friends promised lucrative nassau county work) When you don't - you don't. That's the story morning glory.

N Petraro
05-23-2005, 09:51 PM
I love those rascist boys and gals!

Democrats Rallying Cry
05-25-2005, 01:24 PM
It seems that if you say anything about another race these days some democrat will label you a racist.

I love those rascist boys and gals!