NEWSDAY AND THE DA LOVE AFFAIR?

[Guest100]

In other posts on other threads a few posters wondered what is the apparent love affair between the DA and Newsday. Assuming there is a love affair. Judging from all the good press a so called hard charging conservative DA gets from a liberal newspaper, it can make one wonder.

I figured it out. What Suffolk County based newspaper is currently under investigation for fraud, both civil and criminal. At least it sounds like a criminal act to me. When you jiggle the the readership numbers to get higher rates it sounds like fraud to me. What DA would be charged with investigating those charges? What part of any investigation into that matter have we heard about? Starting to get the picture?

Newsday ain't about to antagonize the man who can give them more grief, and therefore write only positive pieces about him.

Any one out there have another explanation? Please chime in.

[I will, Guest]

Funny you should say this because it was what I was thinking, too. What else could it be? It is readily apparent to all of us who watch closely that Newsday has become the personal free public relations vehicle for Tom Spota? I am getting more faith in people as I notice that more and more of us are finally having the courage to "call a spade a spade." I can definitely say without a doubt that Newsday is trying to extricate Spota from his sorrid involvement with the 4-4-4-4-4- Tankleff case. Those of us who have studied the case closely have come to the conclusion that 4-4-4-4-4- is innocent. That includes everybody in the media covering the case. You would never know that from reading Newsday though. I think it is a quid pro quo. Newsday covers Spota's butt and gives him plenty of good "spin" and, in turn, Spota doesn't add to Newsday's woes with their circulation scandal. If my memory serves me well, Dennis Dillon, Nassau DA, brought criminal action against Newsday's circulation office and others responsible for their deliberate deception and larceny not Tom Spota. The Long Island Press ran a great revealing article about Newsday a few months back on what is really going on with them and editor-in-chief James Klurfeld in particular. Problem is that Newsday is the only show in town in terms of local readership for a daily rag. Newsday has no real competition which is why they can get away with their shennanigans. Thank God for the Internet and thank God for websites like this and others which give us an avenue to put the truth out there.

[ve ri tas]

The two previous posters guest 100 , and I will guest, seem to state a dynamic at work that borders on the sublime in it's simplicity and obvious truth. This may be the most political DA, in fact, than we have ever seen before. The mixing of the law, and political expediancy is the quickest way to longterm disaster known to humankind. Politics and real leadership are a most incongrous match, you can not have both at the same time!! great leaders never listen to that sirens song.

[Hmmmmwhere is justice]

The two previous posters guest 100 , and I will guest, seem to state a dynamic at work that borders on the sublime in it's simplicity and obvious truth. This may be the most political DA, in fact, than we have ever seen before. The mixing of the law, and political expediancy is the quickest way to longterm disaster known to humankind. Politics and real leadership are a most incongrous match, you can not have both at the same time!! great leaders never listen to that sirens song.

Newsday praises DA and DA leaves Newsday and Democrats alone

and when you have Brookhaven you got plenty of perps

so towns like Babylon and Huntington get off scot free :oops:

[DA JAVERT]

What this bum did on one case simply because his nose was out of joint is more than prosecutorial misconduct, it is downright criminal.

Simply because a guy refused to take a plea, Javert has gone way beyond the necessity of preparing for a misdeamnor trial, he has tried to bring new charges against a citizen by sending his detectives out to dig up any information they could dig up. If someone told me he spent a million dollars to do that with police salaries, travel expense, and all that goes with an investigation, I would tell you I wouldn't be surprised. It is an outrage what he has done.

In addition to that he has indicted another person who couldn't give him any information of his Jean Valjean defendant. He has threatened to violate the parole of another unless that person told the 'truth' at trial. That seems to have backfired on him as well.

The irony of the reformer Javert is that the same things he criticized Patterson for, i.e., over indicting and political and personal prosecuting is the SAME thing he has done in the case I speak of. While it was ok for his buddy former Sheriff Mahoney to complain in a letter about Catterson, when the ValJean character did the same to him, Javert went ballistic.

When Javert cited as one of the reasons he didn't pursue Mahoney in a criminal case, Javert said, "...was a thousand miles away..." Javert suggested in my view that it wasn't worth the effort. But when Javert wanted to seek vengenance on ValJean he brought detectives back from retirement at County expense who now live more than a thousand miles away. On a case he apparentley over indicted on because even the DA friendly courts in Suffolk County threw out the felony counts on the original indictments.

[Truth & Justice]

The reps will probably cross endorse him so Spota will be here for another 4 yrs.

[Guest100]

The reps will probably cross endorse him so Spota will be here for another 4 yrs. The good news is that there is a potential candidate who wants to run 4 years from now. His credentials are impeccable. I believe he is a Republican. He is of high quality and is recognized in the legal community. He has wanted this job since whenever but you haven't heard of him in that context. A problem, if you want to call it that is that he has the potential of moving higher in his own field and will find it difficult to pursue his goals. What he has he has and he doesn't have to run in an election for it. I assume from what I see is he is happy with his lot. BUT I did hear from reasonably reliable sources that he really wants this job.

The hope is that by that time the people of Suffolk County will be sufficiently disgusted with the current DA and will vote for a true professional.

Make no mistake about this guy who wants to run. He will be vigorous and relentless with corruption. The difference is his indictments will be measured and true. He will probably have an effect on the cozy relationships between the DA and the police. He will be true to the ethic.

[guest 10385]

A new DA would be a "breath of spring". Spota has done nothing but get his name in the paper and then never follow through with any convinctions. Yes, a couple of small men pled guilty but the big one, Fred Towle, who begin the whole thing, is still running around. He tells everyone that he has the DA wrapped around his little finger and will never go to jail. He is as cocky as ever and needs to be put away as an example. He stole from the community, embarressed his family and most importantly his position as a legislator and he should be punished to the full extent of the law. SPOTA, ACT NOW AND PUT FRED TOWLE AWAY!

[Tip of the Iceberg]

All of you guys are 100% on the money. Suffolk Life's Dave Wilmott nailed it and so did the Long Island Press. Newsday is what is keeping Tom Spota afloat and what prevents them from having criminal charges lodged against them for fraudulent practices in regards to overcharging advertisers by putting a thumb on the scale when stating their circulation. Evidently, Spota's and the editorial board of Newsday's fates are intertwined. They either stick together or they will hand together. The lists of flagrant abuses continue to mount. I won't name the prospective candidate against Spota down the road, but I think I know who it is. If it is who I am thinking of, then honesty and integrity would be restored to the DA's Office if this person were elected. I don't know how much more the public will be duped by Newsday regarding Spota's true sorrid hidden agenda and how much longer this "house of cards" will remain erect. We could could sure use a nice breeze right about now. And what is saddest is that Spota has been painted as the biggest reformer of all time in Suffolk! I guess if you tell a lie long enough even the liar begins to believe it. You can't make this stuff up!

Sure you can make it up. If it wasn't easy to do this thread wouldn't exist.

[Medford Republican 1]

I can't believe that we are going to go along with Patty and her cross endorsement of Spota. Please find a republican to run.

[Guest100]

All of you guys are 100% on the money. Suffolk Life's Dave Wilmott nailed it and so did the Long Island Press. Newsday is what is keeping Tom Spota afloat and what prevents them from having criminal charges lodged against them for fraudulent practices in regards to overcharging advertisers by putting a thumb on the scale when stating their circulation. Evidently, Spota's and the editorial board of Newsday's fates are intertwined. They either stick together or they will hand together. The lists of flagrant abuses continue to mount. I won't name the prospective candidate against Spota down the road, but I think I know who it is. If it is who I am thinking of, then honesty and integrity would be restored to the DA's Office if this person were elected. I don't know how much more the public will be duped by Newsday regarding Spota's true sorrid hidden agenda and how much longer this "house of cards" will remain erect. We could could sure use a nice breeze right about now. And what is saddest is that Spota has been painted as the biggest reformer of all time in Suffolk! I guess if you tell a lie long enough even the liar begins to believe it. You can't make this stuff up! If you think you know who it is then please give me the first initial of the first name. Let's see if we are on the same page.

All of you guys are 100% on the money. Suffolk Life's Dave Wilmott nailed it and so did the Long Island Press. Newsday is what is keeping Tom Spota afloat and what prevents them from having criminal charges lodged against them for fraudulent practices in regards to overcharging advertisers by putting a thumb on the scale when stating their circulation. Evidently, Spota's and the editorial board of Newsday's fates are intertwined. They either stick together or they will hand together. The lists of flagrant abuses continue to mount. I won't name the prospective candidate against Spota down the road, but I think I know who it is. If it is who I am thinking of, then honesty and integrity would be restored to the DA's Office if this person were elected. I don't know how much more the public will be duped by Newsday regarding Spota's true sorrid hidden agenda and how much longer this "house of cards" will remain erect. We could could sure use a nice breeze right about now. And what is saddest is that Spota has been painted as the biggest reformer of all time in Suffolk! I guess if you tell a lie long enough even the liar begins to believe it. You can't make this stuff up! If you think you know who it is then please give me the first initial of the first name. Let's see if we are on the same page.



Is this why babylon and Huntington are untouchable :shock:

[ADA 1]

Newsday just realizes like everyone else that Spota does a great job and deserves praise.

[guest 10385]

I don't think Mr. Spota deserves praise when you have someone like Fred Towle running around bragging about how he has the DA wrapped around his finger and how he won't get any jail time. It is disgusting how this creep still walks around and is trying to destroy the community. Why keep giving him delays in his sentencing? How much can one man tell to the DA? When are you going to realize he is playing all of you?

[Me3]

I think ADA 1 had to be speaking in jest. According to Newsday, the Vatican has commenced proceedings to canonize Spota even before Pope John Paul II or so you would be led to believe. That guy who quoted Dave Wilmott is right: When is Spota going after the "big fish?" Does he have some backroom deal to leave them alone and in return he gets crossendorsed? It has to be something like that. This Spota can't be that saintly. This is what happens when a country doesn't have free elections and is a dictatorship. I also believe that Newsday is responsible to some degree with this state of affairs. Spota and Newsday: So happy together! I thought it was a journalist's job to point out corruption whereever he saw it; not turn his back to it. :roll:

[How far?]

Am I the only one that remembered Catterson's political witch hunts? Spota is no different, just the ox being gored is different. Spota has done a crappy job, just like Catterson - well maybe not AS bad.

[guester]

Fred Towle has to much info on friends of DA (ie; Morris clan)
to be given anything but a lite-sentence. A misd conviction, community service, and when done, apply for a certificate of relief of conviction (which DA will not oppose).
Just like Morris SR(the convict) got.
If Towle goes to jail he will sing a song of a tangled web about DA.

[WHY HE IS BAD]

I have good reason to believe that this man has used liars to perseucte persons HE believes have done wrong. It doesn't matter if he knows his informants are liars, he will use them anyway. He will pick and choose his information to his own end.

To facilitate that end he has formed his own secret police within the SCPD to carry out his persecutions. The Major Crimes Unit lies, and Spota swears to it.

Say what you want about Catterson but Catterson went outside the SCPD to fill his civilian investigator unit with non SCPD detectives. They will tell you there are waiver problems and that is why you don't find retired SCPD detectives in the unit. I say BS. Where there is a will there is a way.

This is an office and a PD that has been subject of many controversies throughout the years. More so than any other big PD, in my opinion, and yet they continue with lies on top of lies.

This is a very dangerous man. If for no other reason the Republicans should have ran someone against him to get their message out even though it would have been considered polticially motivated.

[Party of One]

"Why he is bad" got it right so I can assume that he has a front row seat to Spota's scam. Catterson hired many NYC and NYSP detectives to the DA's Investigator's spots. It was a big raise for them for which they were grateful. In return, Catterson received very professional and competent work. I know for a fact that the screening process for DA's investigators was much more "on the level" and based on merit and not a cop's willingness to perform corrupt and "dirty tricks" for the DA. Now, Spota has surrounded himself with a "goon squad" who will do anything and everything he wants, no matter how unethical or immoral.

[Your Funny]

Let me Guess ? You guys use to work for catterson.




Ive been there for both Catterson was a CROOK!!! Remember JOHN POWELL an catterson sons Judgeship .
I could go on for HOURS.........

CASE CLOSED!!!!!

[GUEST 26]

I have good reason to believe that this man has used liars to perseucte persons HE believes have done wrong. It doesn't matter if he knows his informants are liars, he will use them anyway. He will pick and choose his information to his own end.

To facilitate that end he has formed his own secret police within the SCPD to carry out his persecutions. The Major Crimes Unit lies, and Spota swears to it.

Say what you want about Catterson but Catterson went outside the SCPD to fill his civilian investigator unit with non SCPD detectives. They will tell you there are waiver problems and that is why you don't find retired SCPD detectives in the unit. I say BS. Where there is a will there is a way.

This is an office and a PD that has been subject of many controversies throughout the years. More so than any other big PD, in my opinion, and yet they continue with lies on top of lies.

This is a very dangerous man. If for no other reason the Republicans should have ran someone against him to get their message out even though it would have been considered polticially motivated.

Why would Spota go and pay for his own guys?

He can simply call up Steve Levy, remind him of some audio he has in the top drawer of his desk, and get as many SCPD detectives as he wants.

[newsday / left]

don't believe anything you read in that left wing addition of li news

[Guest100]

I have good reason to believe that this man has used liars to perseucte persons HE believes have done wrong. It doesn't matter if he knows his informants are liars, he will use them anyway. He will pick and choose his information to his own end.

To facilitate that end he has formed his own secret police within the SCPD to carry out his persecutions. The Major Crimes Unit lies, and Spota swears to it.

Say what you want about Catterson but Catterson went outside the SCPD to fill his civilian investigator unit with non SCPD detectives. They will tell you there are waiver problems and that is why you don't find retired SCPD detectives in the unit. I say BS. Where there is a will there is a way. Nothing wrong with getting help from outside your budget by using SCPD cops. BUT paying your own detectives to do some of the grunt work leaves you a lot of independence from the good old boy network. A DA should have a good working relationship with the police. He should always have a wall between the two offices.

This is an office and a PD that has been subject of many controversies throughout the years. More so than any other big PD, in my opinion, and yet they continue with lies on top of lies.

This is a very dangerous man. If for no other reason the Republicans should have ran someone against him to get their message out even though it would have been considered polticially motivated.

Why would Spota go and pay for his own guys?

He can simply call up Steve Levy, remind him of some audio he has in the top drawer of his desk, and get as many SCPD detectives as he wants.

[Guest100]

Ofshe, during questioning by Kogut's defense lawyer, Paul Casteleiro of Hoboken, N.J., testified that police are trained to use subtle forms of threats and promises so the suspect "understands that there is a deal on the table."

Instead, said Ofshe, a "skilled interrogator" should allow a suspect to give a "free narrative" of events so that the investigators can compare the details offered with what police already know about the crime.

"It's a way to demonstrate the suspect has actual knowledge of the crime," he said.

The above is an excert of a column from today's Newsday. It is exactly what Spota will do to get his way. He gets his goons to interview people and give them just enough information to make them understand what the DA wants and the rest is history.

I have seen it first hand myself in cases where the informant would close cases for us. In those cases nobody got hurt other than the victim who didn't get justice because the crime was attached to another who couldn't or wouldn't be prosecuted due to death, incarceration, or some other reason the DA wouldn't prosecute.

DA Spota has no such qualms about using trumped up testimony to convict the innocent as long as it suits his sense of justice.

[Looker 4]

Sure you can make it up. If it wasn't easy to do this thread wouldn't exist.

Newsday loves Spota because Spota validated their Priest Investigation by essentially, introducing the Newsday story word for word into the grand jury ...and of course Newsday patted him on the back becasue they had "broken" the story and he validated it word for word.

Also his press office gives Newsday the heads up before other media, really only taloks to Newsday and ignores all others.

[HERR SPOTA, GREAT GUY]

What a nice and compassionate guy Herr Spota is. All of his kindness and compassion spilled out on his stage to perform. Today, with his assistance he saw fit to allow Mrs. LaPinta free from 21 years of jail. What a nice guy. Maybe a quick pit stop at Butterfields made him more kindly.

He explained how justice should be considered on an individual basis. The bad guys should go to jail ( or those HE considers bad ) and mercy extended to those he thinks deserves it. Reminds me of the scene in Schindler's List where Schindler convinces the Commandant to extend mercy to holocaust prisoners and thereby show the world of his true power........the power to give life when he could easily take it away.

If he truly was a decent person he would not listen to convicted criminals when he KNOWS they are lying to indict innocent men. You know they are lying and yet you continue with a persecution because your sense of justice, whatever that is violated. Why else would a district attorney of any conviction mention in his press conference regarding an indictment say: " We will give it to the jury and let them deciden his guilt of innocence". Why else would you say that if you were convinced of a person's guilt.

You allowed perjured testimony, probably inspired by your goons be given to a grand jury. Your position was to allow it and the hell with the guilt or innocence of the accused. Let him sink or swim and let him deal with the burden of a trial.

You should be ashamed of yourself.