Croce running for sheriff

[yourwrong]

Anybody no anything about NYS correction commisioner and ex suffolk undersheriff Alan Croce running for sheriff as republican?? Possible primary with Tisch or Tisch not running for sheriff but Brookhaven Town sup?

[go croce]

Croce would get my vote in a heartbeat. He knows the job and isn't caught up in all this petty bull s_it

[Jim Croce]

he really isnt my brother-and he aint heavy!

[Croceeeee]

Wasn't he involved w/ an underaged girl in the mid '70's?

[oooops]

I heard that, but isn't that normal for politicians? Clinton said its OK.

[Crazy 1]

I am a Deputy Sergeant, I like most facets of my job, I don't want to be a Suffolk Cop, I don't want to be a C/O, I like MY job. I have been around for over 16 years, I've worked the station 15 and 16 booths, I know a lot of C/O's from both facilities. When I worked the booth years ago at Yaphank I would take off my gear and eat my lunch in the C/O's cafeteria with many C/O's that I still call friends. I played deck hockey and basketball with the C/O's in the Farm Gym, and I played poker at C/O's houses on Friday nights - in short these are good guys and many are my friends. I don't know why I have to endure posts from idiots on both jobs that cant see the forest for the trees. Grow up guys - this is a public forum, everyone sees it. Part of being professional and having some pride in your job includes taking the high road and not participating in this constant bickering. This is what the administration wants - they want to see both sides of this Department at odds with each other. It is to their advantage that we have this rift between us, it is to everyones advantage but ours. I really think there are guys out there who just want to get along and do their own jobs. As a group it seems every administration re - defines what our jobs are, and this one is no exception. I've lived through Dooley with his axe carrying henchman, (Layton), who kicked the Deputy side any chance he got. Where are they now? Dooley is in and out of jails since then, and his "AID" was afraid to work the tiers so he quit - Layton.
Then we had Mahoney and Morris - they beat the living crap out of the Corrections side of the job every chance they got. All in response to a pissing contest between Canatella and Morris. Then came the trials and indictments and the deals etc. so where are they now? Mahoney hasn't been heard from since, Morris took pleas and is retired in obscurity. Now we have Tisch, he reacts to an article in Newsday where the Demarco made comments about him by giving the C/O's 1 DC, he takes away the overnight trips from Deputies and gives it to THE STATE C/O's, (not Suffolk C/O's), then he continues with illegal contract busting and union busting ploys. Guess what, I'll be here when he's gone too! This is my career, this isn't just some stopover on a long line of political jobs. This is it for me, and frankly I'm not going to sit back and let him rip apart the Sheriff's Department any more. I can understand if C/O's are happy with getting 1 DC, I really do, but at what cost to your own dignity did you get those twenty some odd jobs? How long will both sides sit back and take this back and forth crap until we stand together and throw the POLITICIANS out of OUR JOBS. I am supporting Vin Demarco, he has always been a decent and trustworthy person. He tells me he wants a better job for both C/O's and Deps and I firmly believe that he is sincere. I understand that a lot of C/O's will be aprehensive about supporting him, but the alternative is to sit back and let the current administration run OUR jobs into the dirt. Lets face it, next year they might be pissed off at the C/O's then what?

Sorry this post was so long but I have sat back and read all this crap for quite a while without responding.

[truth in scso]

croce won't run for sheriff unless tisch gets out of the way, the two are very good friends

[Gold Star]

Will Croce run with the same message as Ticsh, "I WANT TO DOUBLE YOUR PROPERTY TAXES TO SATISFY MY OWN EGO"

[Vinny Vidi Vici]

to win, he still needs to win the Dem line which he probably will but not without primarying. How many Dems and C.O.s will be voting for him in the Dem primary against Collins?

[Collins Who ?]

There is a lot of heavy baggage that follows along with the Collins' clan. Understand this: just because the IA division at SCPD wont press certain matters with reference to the Collins', dont kid yourself that if either of these two runs again certain things will come to light that will finish them off for good in any political arena. Remember - in politics you dont have to prove anything - you only have to pose the questions. If the allegations about them are true it will make its way to the newsday front page and that will be that. Remember too, just because some brass at Police Headquarters are afraid to push departmental charges for fear they will be sued etc. all those video tapes they have will somehow be lost and end up with news twelve or newsday etc. Nice try though>

[laughs2day]

I had a great laugh at work today. Once again Tisch has shown how he and his administration suffer from having no law enforcement experience. What gave me the great laugh was the recent memo Tisch sent out about how he had to cancel this year’s awards ceremony.
In the memo Tisch cries and whines how he tried to raise the moral in this department, how the first year the ceremony was well attended and how last year no one attended. He went on to try and blame on the low turn out and non-existent moral on all kinds of factors. This fool and his fellow morons just don’t get it.
MESSAGE TO TISCH: The only factor that has caused moral to reach an all time low and bottom out in this department is YOU! You have no clue what you are doing. Neither you, nor anyone in your administration was ever a LEO. Yeah Sullivan likes to go around telling people how everyone in his family was a city cop. MESSAGE TO SULLIVAN: If your family ever knew how you treated your men they would never talk to you again.
TIsch takes orders from his wife, who gets her information from Murphy’s wife. MESSAGE TO TISCH: The guys hate the way Murphy treats them.
Since Tisch and his handpicked crew have no idea how to run the department they have to allow Murphy and Kneitel run it. MESSAGE TO TISCH: All of Kneitel’s men hate him. Not even sure if it is safe for him to stand in front of them at the Memorial Service.
Since Demarco challenged Tisch’s management in Newsday Tisch has attacked Deputies. According to Al Otto Tisch did this because his wife was upset about Demarco’s comment. MESSAGE TO TISCH: Get your pants back from your wife.
Last night Tisch sent two more of his lackey Investigators to the Deputy PBA meeting carrying his water. LeGrand is lucky no one tossed him from a window. MESSAGE TO TISCH: Stop sending guys like Stark, Kline and LeGrand to meetings as your piss boys. No one respects them, no one trusts them. If your wife allows you to have your pants back have her ask Murphy’s wife if she thinks you should carry your own water.

[Who wins?]

I am confounded by the way so many people can sit back and talk their azzes off about someone they never met, and know nothing about simply because of his/her career choice. I have read so many negative posts on this site about different people that I have to believe that most of the authors are just making it all up as they go along. This latest flap over who will be the next Sheriff is so ridiculous it is sad to read. However entertaining this all is for some, for many of us who work for the Sheriff's Office this is just another huge black mark on the already infamous history. It doesn't matter who runs, who wins, or why, the status quo will remain - even if we replace these clowns - another group of clowns will move right in behind them. I don't support Tisch and I cant in good conscience support a Deputy. So I guess I hope Tisch loses and I also hope Demarco is what they all say he is - a regular guy.
If not, we're all back to business as usual at the Office/Department - whatever.

[NEED A SEAT]

Maybe the co union should ask him to run

[Retired NYCPD]

I am a Deputy Sergeant, I like most facets of my job, I don't want to be a Suffolk Cop, I don't want to be a C/O, I like MY job. I have been around for over 16 years, I've worked the station 15 and 16 booths, I know a lot of C/O's from both facilities. When I worked the booth years ago at Yaphank I would take off my gear and eat my lunch in the C/O's cafeteria with many C/O's that I still call friends. I played deck hockey and basketball with the C/O's in the Farm Gym, and I played poker at C/O's houses on Friday nights - in short these are good guys and many are my friends. I don't know why I have to endure posts from idiots on both jobs that cant see the forest for the trees. Grow up guys - this is a public forum, everyone sees it. Part of being professional and having some pride in your job includes taking the high road and not participating in this constant bickering. This is what the administration wants - they want to see both sides of this Department at odds with each other. It is to their advantage that we have this rift between us, it is to everyones advantage but ours. I really think there are guys out there who just want to get along and do their own jobs. As a group it seems every administration re - defines what our jobs are, and this one is no exception. I've lived through Dooley with his axe carrying henchman, (Layton), who kicked the Deputy side any chance he got. Where are they now? Dooley is in and out of jails since then, and his "AID" was afraid to work the tiers so he quit - Layton.
Then we had Mahoney and Morris - they beat the living crap out of the Corrections side of the job every chance they got. All in response to a pissing contest between Canatella and Morris. Then came the trials and indictments and the deals etc. so where are they now? Mahoney hasn't been heard from since, Morris took pleas and is retired in obscurity. Now we have Tisch, he reacts to an article in Newsday where the Demarco made comments about him by giving the C/O's 1 DC, he takes away the overnight trips from Deputies and gives it to THE STATE C/O's, (not Suffolk C/O's), then he continues with illegal contract busting and union busting ploys. Guess what, I'll be here when he's gone too! This is my career, this isn't just some stopover on a long line of political jobs. This is it for me, and frankly I'm not going to sit back and let him rip apart the Sheriff's Department any more. I can understand if C/O's are happy with getting 1 DC, I really do, but at what cost to your own dignity did you get those twenty some odd jobs? How long will both sides sit back and take this back and forth crap until we stand together and throw the POLITICIANS out of OUR JOBS. I am supporting Vin Demarco, he has always been a decent and trustworthy person. He tells me he wants a better job for both C/O's and Deps and I firmly believe that he is sincere. I understand that a lot of C/O's will be aprehensive about supporting him, but the alternative is to sit back and let the current administration run OUR jobs into the dirt. Lets face it, next year they might be pissed off at the C/O's then what?

Sorry this post was so long but I have sat back and read all this crap for quite a while without responding.


Great post! Why is it that guys like you always keep their own counsel. They suffer quietly when necessary and just accept it as part of the JOB. Speak out more often, don't be afraid to say what you feel. I know from your post I would have had you as a "buy and bust" partner anytime. Vincent DeMarco is a dedicated good COP
( Idon't care what the tech term is ) and you cannot select a better leader. Urge your friends and families to vote for him. The Departmrnt will be better run and morale will soar. You deserve the respect that is due you. DeMarco will bring it back!!!

[Jim Croce]

Hes not related to me?

[iguest]

i guess he's not running next option