Democratic Primary Challenge of DeMarco?

[SC Deputies and C.O.s]

In a dizzying shift in fortunes, the Vinny DeMarco juggernaut for Suffolk County Sheriff has gone from winning before the election to serious trouble. The deputies and jail guards have been posting here and everywhere else about the merits of dumping Tisch. DeMarco, a registered conservative, enters the scene obviously enjoying a groundswell of support from disgruntled sheriff's department employees. This was in response to the cross endorsement scam floated by Rick Brand of Newsday between Tom Spota and Alfred Tisch. Evidently, that scam went over like a lead balloon by the public already weary of the corruption and "smole filled" backroom Tammany Hall type "politics as usual" in Suffolk County. Reaction was immediate and intense. So, the Dems decide to run a candidate for sheriff against Tisch. Outside of the Brookhaven Town races, the sheriff's race is still the most talked about in Suffolk County. DeMarco is announced as the Democratic candidate for Sheriff by county boss Rich Schaffer. DeMarco is instantly courted by all the third parties (Independents, Working Family, Conservative). Tisch is running scared...even he thinks he's lost the race already or so it would seem! The one problem was getting Demarco past the Democratic rank and file. Rick Brand was astute enough to understand that that was a massive hurdle and alluded to it in one of his articles. Conservatives themselves understood that a registered Conservative on a Dem line was volatile and an uneasy alliance. First, Tisch makes a bold and ingenius move (this is hardball remember...bare knuckle rules). He removes all of DeMarco's supporters (the deputies) out of a plum cushy assignment: district court. He replaces them with the corrections officers who immediately abandon DeMarco. Tisch understood that with 800+ c.o.s vs. just over 200 deputies that it was a classic "divide and conquer" move and it worked! Oh, DeMarco started whining that Tisch was playing politics (duh! the sheriff has to run for office, Vinny! It was always politics...you either embrace it or you get out of the ring) but nobody really cares. Then, recently Democratic Party faithful smelling blood in the water start griping about a nonDem (in fact, a conservative, the Dem antiChrist!) is taking their line. The people in the trenches who do all the everyday grunt work for the party aren't standing for that! They want a registered loyal Dem on their line even if it means losing to Tisch, Rich Schaffer be damned! Dems can be very unpredictable and fickle! Calls get made and a recruitment drive is on for a primary challenger to DeMarco for Dem line! Dave "Stop the Super Jail" Bishop is approached and doesn't instantly discount himself as a challenger. Then a potential challenger's name is floated: Andre Collin's, husband of Felicia Collins who ran against Tisch last go around. Now, this rumor has some teeth because it appears that Andre has been expressing some interest in running for quite some time. With DeMarco's ship starting to sink, Collins could very well decide to make his move. If this rumor is true (and I think it is), then Collins could easily defeat DeMarco in a Democratic primary. Remember, none of the the kind of folks supporting DeMarco are registered Dems and therefore can't vote in a primary. If that happens, then it will be interesting to see what happens to the other third party lines. If DeMarco is challenged and defeated for the Dem line, will DeMarco still want to run as a third party candidate? Will any third party line run their own candidate for sheriff or will they all (including the new Integrity Party) merely back one of the two major party candidates? Stay tuned. This could get good. By the way, where's all the chatter about the Suffolk County Sheriff's race. It seems that everyone has calmed down all of a sudden. Only a few days ago, the sheriff's race is all the deputies and c.o.s would talk about! What happened?

All the c.o's are tired from the flood gates of overtime that just opened up................................

[f.f.]

First of all, NO all the CO's have not all of a sudden switched to supporting tisch. That's quite untrue. What alot of CO's WILL do is NOT VOTE AT ALL because they feels it would be unethical to vote for a deputy- (an enemy in many CO's brainwashed minds). The only reason there is such conflict between CO's and Deputies is because the Administration (past and present) prefers it that way, and has created an enviornment that feeds into it. The union leaders have also preferred the disparity, for obvious reasons. Dont's forget there are millions of people in Suffolk County and the 1,000 members of the SCSD is a mere pittance in reality-an insignificant drop in the bucket. If the Dems put up Bishop-he'll lose, Collins-he'll lose. And they would be sacraficing the Sheriff's race out of loyalty to the party????? Think about it-Its like saying" If I can't get what I want- I don't want anything" Sound foolish and childlike- sure does. Lets grow up, Mr. & Mrs. Taxpayer. Don't act in a way that we forbid our kids to act. :wink:
"Do as I say, not as I do "just doesn't cut it these days.

[Rumble in the jungle]

Obviously, you don't know anything about politics or how the system really works. If you want to stay home and pout, that's your option. This is the big leagues and they play rough at this level. Get used to it. Collins has indicated his intentions to run for sheriff and there's not much anyone who isn't a registered Dem can do to stop him, unless Bishop decides to throw his hat in the ring, too. That would really make this interesting to watch! Boo hoo, give me a tissue to wipe the tears out of my eyes!

[f.f.]

Oh, give me a break. Big leages, my azz!

First of all, NO all the CO's have not all of a sudden switched to supporting tisch. That's quite untrue. What alot of CO's WILL do is NOT VOTE AT ALL because they feels it would be unethical to vote for a deputy- (an enemy in many CO's brainwashed minds). The only reason there is such conflict between CO's and Deputies is because the Administration (past and present) prefers it that way, and has created an enviornment that feeds into it. The union leaders have also preferred the disparity, for obvious reasons. Dont's forget there are millions of people in Suffolk County and the 1,000 members of the SCSD is a mere pittance in reality-an insignificant drop in the bucket. If the Dems put up Bishop-he'll lose, Collins-he'll lose. And they would be sacraficing the Sheriff's race out of loyalty to the party????? Think about it-Its like saying" If I can't get what I want- I don't want anything" Sound foolish and childlike- sure does. Lets grow up, Mr. & Mrs. Taxpayer. Don't act in a way that we forbid our kids to act. :wink:
"Do as I say, not as I do "just doesn't cut it these days.

f.f. did ya think of that quote all by yourself????

[box monster]

First of all, NO all the CO's have not all of a sudden switched to supporting tisch. That's quite untrue. What alot of CO's WILL do is NOT VOTE AT ALL because they feels it would be unethical to vote for a deputy- (an enemy in many CO's brainwashed minds). The only reason there is such conflict between CO's and Deputies is because the Administration (past and present) prefers it that way, and has created an enviornment that feeds into it. The union leaders have also preferred the disparity, for obvious reasons. Dont's forget there are millions of people in Suffolk County and the 1,000 members of the SCSD is a mere pittance in reality-an insignificant drop in the bucket. If the Dems put up Bishop-he'll lose, Collins-he'll lose. And they would be sacraficing the Sheriff's race out of loyalty to the party????? Think about it-Its like saying" If I can't get what I want- I don't want anything" Sound foolish and childlike- sure does. Lets grow up, Mr. & Mrs. Taxpayer. Don't act in a way that we forbid our kids to act. :wink:
"Do as I say, not as I do "just doesn't cut it these days.




Sorry f.f......I always vote!!!!!!Deps want Vinny so he can give you all the overtime again.......I enjoy doing corrections work....if deps really want to do district maybe they should take the test for corrections.......if not then stick to the police work

[box monster]

[quote="Anonymous"][quote="f.f."]. The union leaders have also preferred the disparity, for obvious reasons.



This quote is really NOT the best endorsement for YOUR guy now is it!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!doooooh!!!!!!!!!

[ghity]

If Andre Collins thinks he can beat the Democrat Machine in Suffolk he's wrong, its a different Party since 2001.

His advisors are off the mark on this one. Instead of running for, say Suffolk Legislature, he runs as a spoiler. The Dems are tired of the Collin's tricks, 2001 was excuseable, but this isn't.

ANDRE COLLINS WILL LOSE, ANY POLITICAL INSIDER WILL TELL YOU THIS

[funto]

What are CO's afraid of? What is there for Vinny to take away? You have to actually HAVE something before you have to worry about losing it! Is it the ugly pj uniforms, the tour wands, the sergeant pools, the great district court job that you're doing more work with less staff in?? Tell me, what the hell could he possibly take that has not already been taken or ruined. Well?

[YOURWRONG]

Hey Box monster, u say that co's should do all the corrections work and deps should do the police work, fine, then there should be no co's working at IA, MEU, Claims, Gang, PIB, or any other investigative command. DEAL?

[box monster]

Hey Box monster, u say that co's should do all the corrections work and deps should do the police work, fine, then there should be no co's working at IA, MEU, Claims, Gang, PIB, or any other investigative command. DEAL?



IA and PIB you can have.....GANG intel.....the skids are with us 24/7....we see more ...so we keep that....MEU....we can investigate our own officers, medical histories have nothing to do with you.......but we also get transportation then.....DEAL?????

[yourwrong]

but box monster, as u said, u guys do corrections, MEU isnt corrections. u cant have it both ways guy. And transportation isnt corrections. Every police officer does prisoner transportation, PD, State PD, everyone.

[BoyOhBoy]

This is the most visits (not many posts) in such a short time of any topic I have read on this site in a long time. This sheriff's race must be a really big deal to somebody. :twisted:

[uh your wrong]

but box monster, as u said, u guys do corrections, MEU isnt corrections. u cant have it both ways guy. And transportation isnt corrections. Every police officer does prisoner transportation, PD, State PD, everyone.

i beleive i see nassau county corrections in riverhead all the time transporting, as well a nyc corrections..........its more like suffolk is the one of a smaal number of correction depts that DO NOT DO TRANSPORTATION.............

but box monster, as u said, u guys do corrections, MEU isnt corrections. u cant have it both ways guy. And transportation isnt corrections. Every police officer does prisoner transportation, PD, State PD, everyone.

You're a jerk. What about Nassau C/Os they do transport, state C/Os do transport. Who told you that you have to be a PO to do transport. Just like you have to be a PO to work at District. Yeah right, hehehe. Go back to playing cop and study up on your facts.

By the way MEU, PIB is in fact part Corrections work. Another uneducated statement from a jerk. C/Os investigate people looking to be hired as C/Os and the Deps investigate the ones looking to be hired as Deps. In MEU a C/O deals with C/Os and the snotty Deputy over there deals with the Deps.


Get your facts straight knuckle head. Just because in your simple mind you think something should be a certain way doesn't mean it is a fact.

[quote=yourwrong]\
By the way MEU, PIB is in fact part Corrections work. Another uneducated statement from a jerk. C/Os investigate people looking to be hired as C/Os and the Deps investigate the ones looking to be hired as Deps. In MEU a C/O deals with C/Os and the snotty Deputy over there deals with the Deps.

That is incorrect. During my investigation to become a deputy, I was investigated by a C/O. My dealings in MEU have been handled by a C/O as well.

[yourwrong]

whatever screw. Only somebody unhappy with themselves would bring this to a personal level. What I said was that transportation is not soley corrections!! Police officers tranports prisoners everyday! Does MEU deal with care of inmates? Does PIB deal with care of inmates? NO! Next thing u know co's will want to work details like the us open or parades!

whatever screw. Only somebody unhappy with themselves would bring this to a personal level. What I said was that transportation is not soley corrections!! Police officers tranports prisoners everyday! Does MEU deal with care of inmates? Does PIB deal with care of inmates? NO! Next thing u know co's will want to work details like the us open or parades!

Wow Screw, now thats original. PIB, MEU have always been handled by C/Os and Deps as well as IAD. Like any C/O would want a Dep investigating them. In fact C/Os have been in charge of these departments for years. Yes thats right Deputies working for a C/O. Just like the C/Os qualify the Deps at the pistal range each year. If anyone has a problem it is you. C/Os are very comfortable with our duties. You're the guys that feel it is needed to remind everyone that you are "Police Officers". Go back to playing cop and listen in to the 911 calls so you can get in the way of the real Police at the scene!

[pronto]

This is the most visits (not many posts) in such a short time of any topic I have read on this site in a long time. This sheriff's race must be a really big deal to somebody. :twisted:

Yup, we the employees, the victims of political retardation are concerned.

[yourwrong]

whatever turn key, Last year I made 27 arrests and wrote 121 summonses, I handled countless disabled motorist, MVA's and other situations.. Face it, u would give up your job for mine in a heartbeat! HOW MANY DEPS EVER LEFT TO BECOME A CO??? NONE!!! You know u hate your job! You hate being a co! You just wish you could be a dep and u know it.....

[Numbers]

DeMarco beats Tischy.

HOW MANY DEPS EVER LEFT TO BECOME A CO??? NONE!!! You know u hate your job! You hate being a co! You just wish you could be a dep and u know it.....



Wishing to be a dep???????No....a real cop yea.....come on guy,deps for the most part are good guys and girls who know what their jobs are.....you are a scpd reject....GET OVER IT ALREADY!!!!!!!!Who is the one that really hates their job fella????

[Whats the Buzz?]

Anymore on this potential primary battle with DeMarco and a challenger for the Democratic Party line? Anything to that?

! HOW MANY DEPS EVER LEFT TO BECOME A CO??? NONE!!! You know u hate your job! You hate being a co! You just wish you could be a dep and u know it.....

Come on, you morons have been running that line for eons. How many Deps leave to be real cops (SCPD)? How many SCPD leave to become Deps - NONE!!!
C/Os become Deps probably because they either like freash air or they are afraid of inmates. Why else would someone leave the most stable job in the county for a job that isn't mandated and has and probably will face pink slips in the future. Why would someone leave a higher paying job for a lower paying job where they still have to watch inmates? It's you guys that have the identity problem not the C/Os. We know what our job is and we do it. Handling inmates is our job and it is also part of your job which really makes you nothing more than a lower paid C/O in a black uniform. I think maybe you're the one that hates his job chump!

[Poor Confused Deputies]

Leave the poor Deputies alone. They're confused. The C/Os have a obvious job, the SCPD have an obvious job and the poor Deputies fall somewhere in the middle. Are they glorified C/Os, are they cops, who knows and who really cares for that matter.

[cmon now]

yeah pink slips. u oviously dont understand politics. I guess yourwrong hit a nerve. He's right. If with a snap of the finger, co's could become deps, they would do it in a second.

[Wow Screw, now thats original. PIB, MEU have always been handled by C/Os and Deps as well as IAD.

just not true - ask someone who has been working at the Sheriffs Dept -D'OHH - I mean Office for twenty plus years.

PIB was all Deputies under Sheriff Finnerty, as was IAD. The first MEU Investigator was a Deputy. Get your facts straight.

Old Timer

Leave the poor Deputies alone. They're confused. The C/Os have a obvious job, the SCPD have an obvious job and the poor Deputies fall somewhere in the middle. Are they glorified C/Os, are they cops, who knows and who really cares for that matter.

If Deps are second class cops - or wehatever you refer them as consider this:

Why are there many, many former New York City Police Officers taking the Suffolk Deputy test and taking the job!!!!!!!

Thought being a NYC COp was the best job in the world. yada yada yada -

[Yeah Right !]

Based on some of the off base comments some posters seem to think theyare still in the kiddy pool. Wake up guys, you are in the ocean, the waves are high and under each wave is a great white shark lurking. In other words - the Democratic bosses will tell their committee men who to push, the committee men will tell their "usual" voters who to support and the rank and file will line up and support who they are told to support because everyone wants something and the deals are not made to be broken later. Collins won't be supported for the same reason his wife got almost no money from the dems when she ran, - they dont know him and they cant count on him to play ball when necessary. If Schaefer wants Demarco, (he appeared at his fund raisers and anounced him as the Democratic nominee), then Demarco will be there guy. Not only that, rumor has it that Pat Acampora has already been approached with a deal that gives Tisch little or no monetary support for his race in return for a large favor from the Dems. Remember - this is politics, there are no rules. The Republicans will be very busy trying to keep the Brookhaven Town spots in their camp, that will take enormous amounts of money - money they dont have. If someone who is a republican decides to run for the Town Supervisor spot against Hennessey - it could cost big bucks in a primary? Acampora doesn't want that, so maybe Tisch gets no money, Demarco beats him, and lets face it the Republicans could care less about the Sheriff spot because there are no patronage jobs there.

So next time you spout off with your childish rantings - remember - is it safe to go back in the water? I THINK NOT !

[Krokus]

C/O's and Deputies squaring off in a public forum, insulting each other and airing dirty laundry? I thought this sort of thing became passe last year?

I'm a C/O, have been for awhile, I'm relatively content, I do not want to be a Deputy, although shaving five years off my career would be nice, but reading these endless barbs is just too much. I'm all for witty commentary and pointed observations, but all this "you are jealous" and "you're a wannabe" is just so lame that I had to chime in.

The public doesn't care about our problems, so why air it out here in anonymity? No one but us cares, or even knows, what our jobs are.

Take your apparent bitterness and direct it towards those in your unions and the administration where it might do some good.

[Crazy 1]

I am a Deputy Sergeant, I like most facets of my job, I don't want to be a Suffolk Cop, I don't want to be a C/O, I like MY job. I have been around for over 16 years, I've worked the station 15 and 16 booths, I know a lot of C/O's from both facilities. When I worked the booth years ago at Yaphank I would take off my gear and eat my lunch in the C/O's cafeteria with many C/O's that I still call friends. I played deck hockey and basketball with the C/O's in the Farm Gym, and I played poker at C/O's houses on Friday nights - in short these are good guys and many are my friends. I don't know why I have to endure posts from idiots on both jobs that cant see the forest for the trees. Grow up guys - this is a public forum, everyone sees it. Part of being professional and having some pride in your job includes taking the high road and not participating in this constant bickering. This is what the administration wants - they want to see both sides of this Department at odds with each other. It is to their advantage that we have this rift between us, it is to everyones advantage but ours. I really think there are guys out there who just want to get along and do their own jobs. As a group it seems every administration re - defines what our jobs are, and this one is no exception. I've lived through Dooley with his axe carrying henchman, (Layton), who kicked the Deputy side any chance he got. Where are they now? Dooley is in and out of jails since then, and his "AID" was afraid to work the tiers so he quit - Layton.
Then we had Mahoney and Morris - they beat the living crap out of the Corrections side of the job every chance they got. All in response to a pissing contest between Canatella and Morris. Then came the trials and indictments and the deals etc. so where are they now? Mahoney hasn't been heard from since, Morris took pleas and is retired in obscurity. Now we have Tisch, he reacts to an article in Newsday where the Demarco made comments about him by giving the C/O's 1 DC, he takes away the overnight trips from Deputies and gives it to THE STATE C/O's, (not Suffolk C/O's), then he continues with illegal contract busting and union busting ploys. Guess what, I'll be here when he's gone too! This is my career, this isn't just some stopover on a long line of political jobs. This is it for me, and frankly I'm not going to sit back and let him rip apart the Sheriff's Department any more. I can understand if C/O's are happy with getting 1 DC, I really do, but at what cost to your own dignity did you get those twenty some odd jobs? How long will both sides sit back and take this back and forth crap until we stand together and throw the POLITICIANS out of OUR JOBS. I am supporting Vin Demarco, he has always been a decent and trustworthy person. He tells me he wants a better job for both C/O's and Deps and I firmly believe that he is sincere. I understand that a lot of C/O's will be aprehensive about supporting him, but the alternative is to sit back and let the current administration run OUR jobs into the dirt. Lets face it, next year they might be pissed off at the C/O's then what?

Sorry this post was so long but I have sat back and read all this crap for quite a while without responding.

[guest657]

Remember demarco bashes city cops every chance he gets. All you city cops who live in suffolk remember this on election day

Tell us mister so called city cop how does DeMarco shit on you?

Did DeMarco shit on you when he recruited a former City Cop to his PBA board?

Could it be that you are just another hopeless suck up of Tisch's who is going to be on the outs in a few months?

Crazy 1 --- for gods sake will find something new to write, you are a broken record.

[TISCHY BYE - BYE]

If you dont know Vin Demarco then you shouldn't assume anything, especially where he stands on different issues etc. I know the guy since he came on the job. The fact that he became Union President so early in his career indicates the amount of trust the people who work with him have for him. I understand that Corrections Officers will be hesitant to support him, and I don't blame you. BUT - do you really think the current guy is such a rosy path for you to follow? You must certainly know he is a vindictive punk by now. With what he has done recently I'm sure a lot of CO's are eager to support him. But think about this, we - (the Deps), supported him last election. In less than three years the polish wore off his act and we realized what he was all about - HIM
This guy isnt doing what is good for our Department, or any of us he's doing what is good for him and his band of fools. What will it take for him to get pissed off and throw you guys to the wolves? I dont know but I'm confident that if he regains his position in january that you will most certainly find out. Better yet when he gets pissed off at you guys - what will you lose? Again I dont know, but I can think of quite a few things he could do to butcher you next.

go get bent demarco will do nothing for corrections.............

[podman]

TISCH -

I wonder if the old fart would even know it if he lost the Sheriff race? The impotent old geazer would probably still call Sullivan the first Monday of the new year and ask if they needed him to come to work for anything. That conversation would be excellent to overhear.

Tisch: "hey sully, its me Al, do you guys mind if I dont come in today? The old lady wants me to fold the laundry".

Sullivan: "Al, we lost the Sheriff's race in November".

Tisch: "ok, so o o o you guys wont need me today"?

Sullivan: " Al, your not the Sheriff anymore - remember".

Tisch: "ok, sully, I'm gonna stay home for a day or so and fold the laundry and stuff".

Sullivan: "yeah, ok Al - you fold the laundry".

Tisch: "Oh thanks Sully, your a real pal, bye now".


ring - ring - ring

Denzler: "hello"?

Tisch: "hey walt, I'm not coming to work today, I talked to sully - he said it was ok".

CO's Wife in backround: "Who's on the phone"?

Denzler: "sh-sh-sh-sh-sh".

Tisch: "hey walt - who was that"?

Denzler: "nobody, Al you know we lost the election right, we told you eleven times"?

Tisch: "what? The phone is breaking up what".

Denzler: "we lost al, WE LOST CAN YOU HEAR ME NOW"?

Denzler: "ok al you stay home for awhile ok, I'll call you when you have to come back to work, bye".

Tisch: "hey walt your breaking up a bit, I'll call you back on the home phone bye".

ring - ring - ring

Denzlers wife: "hello"

Tisch: "hey its al how are you", "can I talk to walter"?

Denzlers Wife: "He's not at home al, he told me he would be working all night and couldn't be disturbed". "you guys are always so dedicated, especially now that you won the re - election".

Tisch: "yeah I know", alright I'll call back when he's home from work later", "bye".

Denzlers wife: "bye".

Tisch to himself - I thought I just talked to him . . .

[Hey Idiot]

Didn't you pay attention when the other guy insisted on posting a reply to every post on the thread?

Were you afraid someone would miss the diarrhea of your mind.

Not only was it pointless and stupid, but it was a waste of time reading it!

Try to pretend you are more than five years old, and please, a single reply will do. We are all reading each thread, so, don't be a d ick!

Is Collins even running?
He has no workers, no support, has not run a fundraiser, has not been out on the streets.
He was at a DeMarco fundraiser.
Does he have a website?
Anyone working for him?
Anyone have a phone number of his campaign HQ?

nope

[nopeiii]

nope collins isn't running, backing old demarco

yup

Hey yourwrong, you really sound like someone that still lives at home with mommie. A reply to your qoute that no deps leave to be c/o's is true. Why would someone laeve such a great job, I mean you get to drive around, be seen by the public, help people get noticed, etc. ISN'T THAT ENOUGH FOR YOU? You know what I'd like to see, I'd like to see you come and do my job for a week and then reread the bullshit postings you have been writing on here. Of course you have a better job than us as Suffolk has a better one than you, RIGHT. Does that make your job less important? We all play an important part in Law Enforcement, and we do not need to fight. Think about this.....Suffolk is one of the very few areas in the country that allowed the Sheriffs Office to be overtaken by the pd. Anywhere else the Sheriff is the top dog, not some pd dept that has gotten too big for thier own good. Oh and you are right we really don't have anything for your boy to take away but guess what? I got something for you...a lollipop and a silver badge so you can pretend to be in the SCPD. No matter who gets in and who kisses whose ass I along with several other hard working unselfish co's will still be providing Suffolk County with protection from those scary inmates that you co's that are now deps were so afraid of.

[yourwrong]

Im sure the deps who were co's did not leave because they were afraid of inmates. In fact, when your on the street there are no bars between them and the perp. Maybe you can peek out of your little window and check it out someday. As far as Deps leaving for scpd, in the over 13 years I have on I can count 15 who have left. 15......not nearly as many as co's leaving to be deps. Its a simple fact. I have never said a co's position is not important. Its critically important. What I have a huge problem with is your Union taking an active role in bashing jobs of another Union. You dont see plumbers trying to do a carpenters job...You dont see an electrician doing plumbing...They are all related and important when constructing something, but they each have their part. If an union plumber did something a union carpenter is suppose to do, somebodies legs would get broken.

[Mr. Wrong]

The only flaw in your argument about the plumbers and carpenters is that if the plumber watched the carpenter running piping and not just banging nails he would have a legitimate complaint.

If any function of the Sheriff's Office involves inmates, Correction Officers should be doing it. If it involves serving civil process, orders of protection, dwi enforcement, warrant squads, marine bureau, highway patrol, aviation, etc. the Deputy Sheriffs should be doing it.

It is really quite simple.

[C/O4LIFE]

your wrong, you seem to know so much about being a C/O? No bars? Ever walk through a yard with 50 -70 inmates every 15 mins by yourself or escort 30 or 40 inmates don 4 flights of stairs by yourself only to find your radio does not work because well lets just say the money is spent elsewhere? Ever work outside in inclement weather without the proper gear that is afforded to th other 1/4 of the dept in black. You have to be honest and admit nothing is balanced i mean we make up 3/4 of the dept and its like we don't exist. I want you guys to keep doing your job but only your job. In most other areas, Deps or PO's would not be transporting inmates, Do you really think that as a PO you should be driving inmates around. You should be doing police work and your union should be fighting for that. But I have to say this election will be interesting, I just rec'd a mailing from your guy for a fundraising clambake. I thought they were not supposed to send those to employees of the dept. Mahoney used to do that too. I wish you guys good luck but I think someone on the job less time than you have been is not qualified to run the entire dept. Sure the Admin in right now is not perfect but I can see no good from a dep running the dept. at least not in such a time of unrest between us.

Demarco for Sherif = the fox watching the hen house...

Demarco for Sherif = the fox watching the hen house...

More C/O crying.

Collins is not running, Kevins is going to be a non-starter.

Want my job take the test!

get out of my job

Im sure the deps who were co's did not leave because they were afraid of inmates. In fact, when your on the street there are no bars between them and the perp. Maybe you can peek out of your little window and check it out someday. As far as Deps leaving for scpd, in the over 13 years I have on I can count 15 who have left. 15......not nearly as many as co's leaving to be deps. Its a simple fact. I have never said a co's position is not important. Its critically important. What I have a huge problem with is your Union taking an active role in bashing jobs of another Union. You dont see plumbers trying to do a carpenters job...You dont see an electrician doing plumbing...They are all related and important when constructing something, but they each have their part. If an union plumber did something a union carpenter is suppose to do, somebodies legs would get broken.

HEY THERE MR YOUR WRONG what about YOUR union lobbying to block c/o's from a 25 year retirement, YOUR union pissed off that the c/o's got a dog TO DO CORRECTIONS WORK, how about YOUR union pres campaigning when he should be worried about YOUR JOB, AND YOUR BEST INTEREST. I have been reading these post for several months now. mr. your wrong you have some serious issues with yourself you should seek some help, we have great mental health professionals at the jail........drop a slip i'll try and get you an appointment....... :shock: