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Pissed-off Parent
05-06-2005, 11:04 PM
:oops: they were caught!!! who did it? By process of elimination, which witch did the dirty deed? How DARE they put the district in such legal jeopardy...what a poor example of leadership they set for our kids, not to mention the rest of the community. They are a perfect example of leadership for criminals...does anybody remember a fellow named NIXON?
I have one word...NEWSDAY :lol:
Time for them to step down voluntarily before they are forcibly removed...save face Tina while you can salvage whatever scraps of dignity you may have remaining...
At least Kaiser and LoSchiavo had the BALLS to address the issue and DENOUNCE this despicable, evil-minded, malicious deed.
longylander
05-07-2005, 01:44 PM
Did all the players in this secret taping buy up all the Long island Advance's in the local stores? Hmmmmmmm
Dems' the Breaks
05-08-2005, 12:26 AM
Scary part is it's not illegal, but it is morally and ethically disgusting .
What are they hiding? It's amazing the lawyer that she got hired is the one to ask for the tape.
The audit, the tax increase, the sweetheart supt. deals, now this ...
Pissed Off Parent
05-08-2005, 02:17 AM
the illegal part is when they gave the tapes to the party who is suing the district...What could they possibly have been thinking?
and the lawyer who accepted them is equally in trouble with the legal ethics panel...stupid, stupid, stupid...
the school board lawyer, Murtha, is a complete dolt...Tony Kaiser said so to his face, in different words, of course...
so, now we get to vote for Kaiser's replacement...a tough choice here...hmmmm..Christie (psycho) Jo or this Goldfarb fellow...he seems decent enough...no relatives working for the district, just a kid in the schools and a property owner...nice voice too, when he speaks I listen...makes sense
the illegal part is when they gave the tapes to the party who is suing the district...What could they possibly have been thinking?
and the lawyer who accepted them is equally in trouble with the legal ethics panel...stupid, stupid, stupid...
the school board lawyer, Murtha, is a complete dolt...Tony Kaiser said so to his face, in different words, of course...
so, now we get to vote for Kaiser's replacement...a tough choice here...hmmmm..Christie (psycho) Jo or this Goldfarb fellow...he seems decent enough...no relatives working for the district, just a kid in the schools and a property owner...nice voice too, when he speaks I listen...makes sense
bullfighter
05-09-2005, 07:43 AM
Tina and Peggy need to be sent a message, vote NO to the budget, vote NO to Psycho Jo Lang, yes to Mr. Goldfarb. Is there anything the voters can do to remove these two before their term is up? They are running roughshod over the public trust. Two princepals, forcing out a popular superintendent, huge unnecessary budget increases. They've politicized the school board and every decision that should made with the best interest of our children balenced against the taxpayers pocketbook. Families looking to purchase homes always look at the school district, most won't look twice at this one. Revitalization effort by our local gov'ts will go in the toilet if these two are allowed to continue to advance their hidden agenda. Tina, Peggy please resign NOW :!:
loss of faith
05-09-2005, 11:26 AM
Let's see...
Ralph Capone is fired from his job at Pat Med because he made sexual advances toward male students. The next day he's employed at Week's Boatyard. Manny Felouzis (yes, the Pat Med Board president's husband) is also employed at Week's Boatyard. Tina Weeks secretly tapes executive sessions then gives tapes to Ralph Capone. Wouldn't you think that Manny, and therefore Peggy Felouzis, knew about these tapes? I would. Ralph is suing the school district because of his dismissal. Tina, by giving these tapes to Ralph, is jeopardizing the future educational funding of all students attending all Pat Med schools. How sinister is this? What are the motives here? Something needs to be done. If the school board does not stand up and shout at this we have a serious problem. Weeks and Felouzis must step down. If Mostow cannot separate himself from this situation, if he cannot stand up and present himself to be opposed to this entire situation...his employment with the school district must also be examined. In addition, all decisions made by Weeks and Felouzis during their terms in office must be closely examined. There are motives out there that do not benefit our children!
I have a total loss of faith in our entire school board at this point. Someone needs to stand up, mention names and do something about this. this entire situation must be exposed and all who are in favor of what's going on must be dismissed.
How about Mostow...He' just another idiot in Tina & Peggy's back pocket. He was dismissed by Mr. Mills (NY commisioner of Ed) for insubordination at Roosevelt School Dist. His contract was bought out by several other districts on LI. He ruined them and it was just cheaper to buy him out and get rid of him. Doesn't anybody look into these people? He just wants a fat retirement on our wallet and he's made some under-the-table deal with Weeks and Felouzis at our expense.
I have a total LOSS OF FAITH
Dems' the Breaks
05-10-2005, 12:50 PM
Add to all of this when all these issues are coming to a crucial head is that there is an absent member of the BOE.
It is for health reasons, but they have been long term health issues and an absent vote during this period is not helping the district.
I applaud Mr. Brady's long and distinguished terms on the BOE, but this is a volunteer postion and we need someone in there and asking question rather than an empty chair.
Brian is a credit to Patchogue-Medford, but the taxpayers need a voice in this. There is no stigma attached to taking care of yourself and the district needs all the help it can get.
Support the Kids
05-10-2005, 08:11 PM
I don't see how voting NO for the budget is in this districts best interests. Even if the budget passes, we still have one of the lowest tax rates in Suffolk, still very attractive to potential home buyers. Case in point, the real estate market in Pat-Med area has gotten much hotter over the last couple of years. Voting NO will do nothing more than save dollars at the expense of the children. Vote NO enough, and property values suffer.
As for Tina Marie, if she did this (which I believe she did) then she will be forced out eventually. If Peggy had anything to do with it (not sure) then she should soon follow. It will become public, there is no doubt about that.
PM PTA Mom
05-11-2005, 12:35 AM
I agree with support the kids. Even if the budget fails, the school district is still going to have to pay for the health insurance and retirement for the teachers in this district. These costs may be out of control but they're contractual.
Also in the budget post about Pat-Med I was accused of being Christy Jo Lange just because i said something positive about the superintendent like I'm the only PTA mom who cares about the district. I don't think Christy Jo or Goldfarb are good candidates so I'm not voting at all. I am supportive of some of the Board members but not all... I keep reading in these posts that tina weeks is the board member who turned the tapes over - she is certainly not one of the Board members I support, and regardless who the person is that taped, I think they should resign even though its not against the law its against morals and ethics and isn't in the best interest of the community.
I was at the BOE mtg when the subject of the tapes came up, and I understood why members were upset but thought the way Mr. Kaiser behaved was terrible. Also, I noticed Collin Mincey nodding his head in agreement at times when Anthony Kaiser was yelling - Will we hear anything publicly from all BOE members - where do they stand on this?
I think we're all still looking for answers regardless of who we support.
pt all the way
05-11-2005, 01:44 AM
the way Mr. Kaiser behaved was terrible? Why, cause he exposed the despicable behavior exhibited by tina/peggy?? because he wouldn't stand for it. Yes, that's rude all right...next time an alleged sex offender receives secret tapes from a board member everyone better be nice and friendly about it!
pissed off parent
05-14-2005, 06:11 PM
it's possible collin was nodding his head in a stupor...not in agreement or anything like that...he's been a patsy all along so far with the two witches, why should he wake up and change now?
Mike Miles...are you listening? Get your head out of your a-- and make a stand
Tna Tapper
05-14-2005, 07:02 PM
If what Tina did was against the law, whether it be State education Law or civil/criminal---PRESS CHARGES AND TAKE HER TO COURT!!!!---GET HER OFF THE BOARD BEFORE SHE BANKRUPTS THIS SCHOOL DISTRICT BOTH MORRALY AND FISCALLY!!!!
Tape Tape
05-15-2005, 12:40 AM
Shame Shame everbody knows your name :oops: :oops: :oops:
Will the school board do Nothing :?:
NO TAPE ZONE
05-15-2005, 12:46 AM
Leave Now Get Out RESIGN :!: :!: :!: :!: :!: :!: :!: :!: :!:
PMRes1
05-15-2005, 12:54 PM
On Saturday, I received a postcard from CTOP in the mail. At the bottom, it read 'SUPPORT QUAILTY EDUCATION, NOT EXPENSIVE EDUCATION'. Isn't it ironic that this group claims to know the difference between a quality education and an expensive one, yet they send out an ad in which 'quality' is spelled incorrectly. The fact of the matter is they care nothing about quality or expensive, the only thing they care about is inexpensive education. I will be voting Y-E-S because I truly care about quality education.
$$$ YES---Lang NO
05-15-2005, 02:52 PM
Vote $$$ Yes maybe???....But, remember a vote for Christy Joe Lang is a Vote for Tina Weeks and Peggy "I'll do what ever you tell me Tina" Felouziz!!!
Vote No---Christy Joe
05-16-2005, 09:33 AM
VOTE NO FOR CHRISTY JOE LANG-A VOTE FOR LANG IS A VOTE TO CONTINUE WITH THE TEAM OF WEEKS AND FELOUZIS---THIS SCHOOL DISTRICT WILL GO BANKRUPT IF THESE TWO STAY IN CONTROL---LO SHIVAO AND GOLDFARB ARE HONEST AND HAVE THE RESIDENTS IN MIND NOT THEIR OWN EGOS
Tale of the TAPE
05-16-2005, 12:37 PM
Will the taper self eject... will she resign :oops:
Ignorant In PM
05-16-2005, 01:51 PM
Please fill me in. What have Peggy and Tina been doing that is destroying this district? Are other members of the board responsible as well? Wasn't Tina once aligned with CTOP?
Maybe the real question is, what have we been doing for our school district? Seems like we are all so quick to judge. Has anyone, so quick to criticize on here, volunteered their time in the district's interest?
LarrYG
05-20-2005, 12:30 PM
The Committee will meet Thursday nights from 7-9pm at Mystic Flavors Ice Cream in Patchogue.
I did stand up and speak...the community heard me and I ran for a seat. Although I did not win this time, there now exists an organization to support candidates who can tell the difference between right and wrong.
PM parent
05-20-2005, 01:36 PM
keep up the good work larry
is this larry guy a self promoter???????
LarryG
05-20-2005, 03:44 PM
Why would I bother to be a self-promoter if there are other people who believe as I do?
If I'm a self-promoter, then you'll see me sitting by myself on Thursday nights at Mystic Flavors ice Cream in Patchogue.
Oust Weeks & Co
05-21-2005, 01:02 AM
Larry, you did a great job! Too bad you lost this time. Seems to me that Tina ,Peggy and Miles should take a walk. Lousy attitude. Look at how she treats people. Look at the lady pat Kelly who got up to speak, and speak what many others were feeling? She had the guts to get involved and her kids go to catholic school! Hows that for getting involved? We are all tax payers. You wont be alone Larry.
GOOMBA #1
05-21-2005, 06:10 PM
Did you see the "Pat-Med Newletter"??....the picture on the top...the "three stooges"..Felouzis, Edington and Weeks..one "knows nothing"...one "does nothing"...and the last one is an "unethical nothing"...all three have to go!!!
Now rumor has it Edington's "do nothing husband" is running against a "know nothing" Conklin...for Foley's seat...what kind of choice is that!!!...Replace those five with P1 people a then maybe you would have something!!!... Let's hear it for Kelly!!!
Bobo 1 your right the roads are for $#(+....
bobo1
05-21-2005, 11:31 PM
Screwed her chances to run for legislature. Such a noble family them Weekseeees. Caught with her hand on the record button and still sits on her fat ass and refuses to step down. Thumbs her nose at the community she serves. And her man still tells everyone that hes going to get the river dredged. :oops: :oops: :oops:
Tina don't just resign, take your boy toy and move out of this community, shame on you.
it seems to me in these political times "F.... up, move up!!!!" what a shame!!!!! :twisted: :twisted: :twisted:
wowser
05-23-2005, 03:28 AM
Seems to me that this board, and especially Weeks, has alot to answer for. Lets review. Tina was there for all the following
1. Two HS principals ,now one. They said we needed two (BS) but not a peep about this since Locantore left. Beside lawsuits filed by both principals. Costly expieriment Blame Tina and co.
2. Consultants hired to watch consultants who consulted about consulting. all without board approvals Our money wasted, and they still are hiring more consultants STOP! Blame Tina and Co.
3. Last minute Supt contract BIG BUCKS! Starting salary $208,000.00 Up from #175,000.00 when Mcdermot left. Soon to be $265,000.00. They did this last minute with veronica also. 5 minutes before failed budget revote.they gave her a big raise, and she took it and ran (retire with nice fat pension) Thanks Tina et all Nothing said prior to budget vote budget called for $200,000.00
Nationwide search was a scam nothing more. Also provided another consultant with a job
4. Tina Taping: This violated her fuduciary responsibility to the district, as this involves a very expensive lawsuit, not to mention that all board members will have to get all new attorneys to represent them. I guess we will get stuck with that bill of course. Big Bucks this girl has cost us.
5. Actually i feel bad for Peggy. She has allowed herself to be led by Tina but she should also step down for her incompetence.
5. The people of this district have been led to believe that CTOP was a bad thing. This was spun by the teachers union because they were holding them at bay regarding their contracts, and trying to make them accountable, as well as the administration.
I would welcome the return of CTOP, and Tina was never a part of CTOP, they were at least fiscally responsible.
6. The other two nephyte boe members are simply not qualified They go along to get along
TERMINATOR
05-25-2005, 11:29 AM
I believe that about sums it up in a nutshell.
Great ad in the Advance Tina.
Are you out of your fricken mind? There is no justification for the tapes. Making the tapes and giving them to Capone is a totally different issue from Capone's guilt or innocence! Now you've decided to use my money to promote your own personal feeling that Ralph Capone was not treated justly. Hire your own attorney you asshole!
Who the hell are you? Judge, jury and cheif ethics officer? If you would have done your job and put the kneepads on for Capone none of this would have happened in the firstplace! He wouldn't have needed to go after the boys for release!
Dems' the Breaks
05-27-2005, 10:01 AM
Not once in her full page Advance ad (gee, how much did that cost? ) does Tina Weeks even come close to apologizing to the district, the children and most importantly her fellow (past and present) BOE members who she either taped or disgraced.
Ms. Weeks what does it take for you to understand that no matter how much you may have felt that Mr. Capone had got a bum rap that it gave you no right to SECRETLY tape your fellow board members?
Start with the fact that it is a MAJORITY vote. If you really felt Capone was innocent then you should have spent more time presenting a case and persuading the board that you were right. Instead you were at Radio Shack buying batteries for your recorder.
Basically what your saying is that no matter what the binding vote is you are going to do whatever YOU think is right to get the results that YOU want. That chills me when I realize how many things you vote on and how much money you allot within the district.
By the way, you had a choice you could have made if you were so distraught and perturbed by the BOE's actions with Mr. Capone ....you could have resigned. You can still resign, but now you should do it as way to apolgize to the Patchogue-Medford community and because your methods are unethical, disloyal and a violation of the trust that the public had in you.
With your public comments in Newsday and in Advance and your full page ad I'm flabbergasted that there appears to be not one iota, not one inkling that you are either sorry or realize what a wrong you have done.
Dunce
05-27-2005, 11:33 AM
Tina, I'm not going to attack you, by now you should have seen your mistakes and what the community thinks about it. You have no friends now, at least none who will stand by you. Pack it in kid it's only going to get hotter; everyone I speak to is going to be at Bay Ave School on June 6. I hope the board accepts your resignation at that time.
TapeGate
05-27-2005, 01:04 PM
Forgive me for saying so .... as a resident who is appalled at the action of Queen of Ethics Ms. Tina Marie Weeks ... it seems to me and friends of mine that the Committee to Restore Ethics and Larry Goldfarb's interest in this organization wouldn't be if he had won.
And this is coming from someone who voted for him.
Taping executive session and giving it to people suing the district is bad enough...why are people trying to build a platform on it? Tina Marie Weeks should've resigned when her husband hired this man - its a conflict of interest. Helping his case as a BOE member is even more disgusting. But there's nothing worthy about trying to capitalize off of it either.
People correctly wrote to the Attorney General and petitioned the commisioner for her removal...you know the loud mouth wench isn't going to resign - why not just wait for the commissioner to remove her. The only way she's off the Board is if she resigns which she won't do, loses or doesn't run next year both of which are real possibilities, or the Commish takes her off - although she created it and deserves it these public lynchings aren't good for the district. There's no way the Mills will keep Weeks after what she's done - why not just let him rule and stop the grandstanding - its not good either.
I was at the last mtg and Felouzis was the only one who didn't repudiate these actions. All the others including the two new ones have denounced what she did at the mtg and in the press. As usual, Gerry's comments in the paper were on the mark about Felouzis being a cat. as President how could she be the only member of the Board who hasn't responded to these allegations?
Gang of 4
05-27-2005, 02:53 PM
There is another way. THE BOARD OF ED. could and should remove her...but those incompetent idiots (the gang of 4) will not :!:
GangGreen
05-28-2005, 10:47 PM
Gang of 4? I'm told that the board had an emergency mtg at district office yesterday- went into exec session and came out and voted unanimously to not appoint counsel for Linda Tripp aka tina weeks. By the time the commish even looks at this, Tina aka Linda will have to pay out of her nose for putting her grubby finger on the record button. As it should be.
tina tripp
05-28-2005, 11:19 PM
...you have some nerve...you look like you could bite the bark off a tree...and you will since you will be even more broke after your lawyer fees get the best of you...you are a sick sick person and deserve whatever you get...I don't care how much you like this janitor you are an evil person who doesn't have kids and should never be representing them.
stand tall TINA
05-28-2005, 11:58 PM
Tina, you like giraffes. Stick your neck out, stand tall and resign.
RESIGN
RESIGN
RESIGN
RESIGN
THIS WILL BE THE TALLEST THING YOUVE EVER DONE.
Grandma Mary
05-29-2005, 01:24 AM
My children went through tremont and now my grandchildren do. You can't impagine how apauled I was to read Tina Marie Weeks letter to the community in the Long Island Advance this week. I voted for her twice now, and can't express my disappointment and how embarrassed I am about what she's done.
She used the Tremont Elementary School's motto - Stand tall, stick your neck out and do the right thing - as a philosophy that makes her actions of giving tapes over to the person who is suing the interests she was elected to protect. Well...let me just say that I have sympathy for this woman because there's something wrong with someone who thinks this is right. An arbitrator and the majority Board thought that man deserved to lose his job who is she to decide that she can just use vigilante justice to undue the will of the majority? If she wanted to do the right thing, there are various other things she could've done...I notice how she has faith that the State Education Committee will uphold what she did - how come she didn't look to them when she thought this man was being wronged? It would've been a lot better than giving it to someone suing the schools for $50MM.
Tremont parents and teachers should be offended that this woman would even dare use the school's name in that poor excuse of a letter which she didn't even admit to doing anything. I dont care what side your'e on - there's nothing honorable about what she did. Even her own supporters have spoken out against her actions. Because of this the budget will never have a chance of passing the second time around - this is a dark cloud that will continue to hurt our district long after she's gone. She should step down IMMEDIATELY so we can start to heal the wounds that she is responsible for.
Stand tall, stick your neck out and do the right thing. She doesn't have a clue what this means. She is unfit to serve for the embarrassment she's caused our district after the media blitz about these tapes. My husband and I will be at the next meeting to speak to this subject its very important.
Courageous Cat
05-29-2005, 10:00 AM
GrandMa Mary. You go girl- I will see you there. You hit the nail right on the head. Kapow!
Never let 'em see you wet
05-29-2005, 02:29 PM
You'd better wear depends Tina. You are going to get what you deserve at the next board meeting.
It should'nt Matter
05-30-2005, 02:34 PM
Wake Up People...These board members Are Making Choices Behind Closed Doors That Involve Your Children...If I Was A Board member I Wouldn't Care If I was Taped Or Not...Maybe Behind Closed Doors Their REAL Personalities and Choices Come Out. Are Mr Kaiser And The Rest Of The Board Afraid Of What They Said Behind Closed Doors? And Maybe ...Just Maybe These Are Not The Kind Of People You Would Want Handling Your Childs Future...I Hope & Pray The Tapes Are Made Public...Rumor Has It Some Pretty Interesting Things Are Said By Mr Kaiser..Hmmmmm Got Something To Hide??? As Far As I'm concerned These People Work For Us And There Should Be ......"NO CLOSED DOOR MEETINGS" Wait People The Real Board Members Are About To Be Heard!!!!!!! On Tape That Is.
Amen It shouldn't Matter
05-30-2005, 02:50 PM
It shouldn't matter raises a great question. If there wasn't anything said that these board members didn't want people to hear than (1) they wouldn't have been taped in the first place (2) it wouldn't help or hurt the capone case and (3) they wouldn't be in an uproar about it. But people calling Ralph capone a "homo" and other inapporpriate statements are rumored to be on these tapes, and perhaps Mrs. Weeks isn't the only person who the community should be attempting to lynch publicly. If the cowards on this site assigned their name to their comments and these Board members would've said publicly what they said behind closed doors there wouldn't be anything to hide. But we know as much as everyone has strong opinions they hide behind these fake nicknames. Mr. Kaiser and Mr. Raby better hope these tapes aren't made public...it will be quite embarrassing for him
dunce
05-30-2005, 03:11 PM
There are things discussed about children and there situation and disabilities that are confidential and are not the business of anyone but those involved with that childs education and the parents. Executive session is sacred ground for board members where many things have to be discussed with the guarentee of confidentiality, to suggest otherwise is probably why you 've never served on a board.
If The School Board Is Going To Talk About Anyones Child Then The Parent Of That Child Should Have The Right To Be Present.......Hello? Don't Try To Cover For Them...And I Have Served On A School Board And " WOULD NOT HAVE CARED IF I WAS RECORDED" Thats The Difference Of Making True Decisions And Standing Up For What You Think Is Best For The The Children, The Teachers And The Tax Payers. These Board Members Are Not Above The Law. They Played With A Mans Life Behind Closed Doors And Seems To Me Are now Afraid Of What They May Have Said.
Dunce
05-30-2005, 03:50 PM
I disagree with you opinion but please don't make this about them. What Tina did was reprehensible and did not represent the interests of this community, something she took a solemn oath to do. Mr. Capone works at her husbands business as does the president of the school boards husband. They both need to be removed and then we can discuss if executive session should continue. Don't use subterfuge to defend the indefensible!
Ok.. The Point I Am Trying To Make Is That While The Decision Making Process Is Taking Place...That It Should Not Matter If You Are Being Taped. A Decision Is A Decision.."Stand By It" I Think All Executive Sessions should Be Recorded In Minutes That Can Be Seen By The Public .."Except In The Case Or Matter Of When A Specific Child Or Childs Name Is Mentioned" Then In The Minutes The Sentence With The Mentioning Of The Childs Name Could Be Xed Out....No Need For Secret sessions When It Involves The Tax Payers. Look At All The Monetary Scandals That Are Now Going On In Districts Across The Island. And I Truly Believe These Board Members Would Make Different Decisions If They Knew They Were Going To Be Viewed And Heard By The Tax Paying Public. I Am Not Trying To Fight With You. I'm Just Sick Of School Boards. Let It Also Be Known That I Don't Even Know Any Of The people In Question But It seems To Me That They Fired A Man Without Judicial Process. And Because Of This, The Taxpayers Might Have To Pay The Penalty For Their Incompetence.
Dunce
05-30-2005, 06:23 PM
As a point matters discussed in executive session must still be voted on in public session.
What's Wrong is Wrong!
05-30-2005, 08:20 PM
It Shouldn't Matter...you are not paying attention to the facts of this outrageous and unethical behavior by Tina Weeks. It is not illegal to tape Executive Session, but if doing so, all parties must be aware that this closed door meeting is being taped. To secretly tape conversations and then provide the tapes to a party who is suing the district for a huge amount of money is, to say the very least, unethical, inappropriate and since I am not a lawyer, possibly illegal. Why would a board member want to provide information for a litigant to use to win millions of dollars from the school district where the board member has a fiduciary responsibility to protect? Does that make any sense to you? Does your pocket feel the pain that mine does?
This is not about whether board members made inappropriate statements about individuals behind closed doors, it is about the legality of secretly taping conversations and giving them to the person who is suing the district! If board members did, in fact, make inappropriate comments, that's another issue. We weren't behind those closed doors and shouldn't presume to know what was said. Don't lose sight of what Tina Weeks has done. She should be REMOVED from the BOE by the Commissioner of Education! RESIGNATION IS NOT ENOUGH!
Let me ask you, do you think for a moment that while Tina was secretly taping conversations in Executive Session, that she was thinking about how to make our district better for our children? Or, was she thinking, we have to get this custodian back his job because he was let go unfairly and having him back, will certainly improve the educational opportunities for the children of Patchogue-Medford - especially after the district pays out all that money to him! He could use it to buy books, computers and supplies for all the children in the district!
Don't lose sight of the fact the school board president is sitting there very quietly, hoping that no one will ask her questions about what happened. I imagine that Mr. Capone and Mr. Felouzis have had very interesting lunch time chats at their jobs at Weeks Boat Yard. Hmmm...CONFLICT???????
2 Sides to...
05-30-2005, 09:34 PM
I should start by saying that while I don't see what on earth Tina Weeks was thinking I have to say to those that have uttered some of the most cruel and vile things I can remember reading...about the fact that she can't have children - and some of the names you've called her - you're just empowering her to be a victim. History has taught us that in this school district people will be just as turned off by the tactics and measures people have taken as they are with what Tina Weeks did.
I don't blame the Board for not removing Weeks - no one even knows whats on the tapes except for weeks and the custodian. So this "ethical group" has petitioned the Commissioner to intervene - why not follow what his recommendation will be? I think it is deplorable for someone who is supposed to be making decisions in the best interest of the school district to put the district in such jeopardy but reading some of these posts is equally shameful. In one breath you're talking about your children and in the other you're acting like trash.
Whether people are interested on runing next year like the two people that seem to be the picks of choice amongst this mean-spiritedness - I wouldn't even want my name associated with this kind of negativity. June 6 sounds like its going to be a circus...and she'll look like a victim like the many times she's survived controversy in the past. She'll never beat this...but she'll never resign either. Let the Commisioner remove her...it'll be the only decision taxpayers can't deem political
Dems' the Breaks
05-31-2005, 02:35 PM
The point is nobody should tape anyone without their PRIOR knowledge unless you are a law agency with a judge approved wiretap or taping and grounds for the belief that the taping will turn up some sort of wrongdoing. Weeks certainly wasn't playing Elliot Ness here. There was never any mention (even by her) that the board was doing anything illegal, she just didn't like the majority decision that was made where she was on the minority side.
I for one kept asking about Capone's status in a criminal court, but again that has nothing to with the ethics of taping fellow board members nor the intelligence of giving those tapes to someone who is suing the district for millions of dollars. Her handing over the tapes that she recorded to somebody who is the originator of a civil lawsuit against the district violates her oath to look out for the districts best interests. That action and that one only should be enough of a reason to make her resign and since that is not going to happen than be removed.
For the posters who questioned and made accusations about executive boards these things are not cloak and dagger issues here. All minutes are read for informational purposes and any recommendations made by it must be voted on in a general meeting. Executive sessions are a useful and essential part of any organization whether a school board or a volunteer fire department. So please don't try making Weeks out to be some crusading exposer of dark secrets and protector of our children.
And I agree with the poster that ignorant comments of the toilet variety about her sex life, ability to raise children or who they hire in their boat yard are crass, stupid and only make her out to be the victim. This is not the only thread where this happens (Try the Patchogue Village one) and there is no point to it and does not clarify anything, suggest anything or solve anything. Keep it out of the gutter and keep the intelligent, factaul pressure on her to do the right thing and resign from her post.
Well spoken dems. My only rebut is the point that the hiring of Capone at the boatyard, immediately after losing his position at the school district, was a red flag and should have been called to the table immediately by Felouzis and the rest of the board. The act in itself was cause for concern and the board should have stood up then and suggested to Weeks that this might not be a good idea.
As far as Manny working at the boatyard...it falls into the same catagory. It points a distinct finger at Mrs. President and that finger says "you're in on it and if your not officially in it, you know about it"
We'd like to make it simple but it's not. Weeks is ethically, and probably legally, wrong...Felouzis, in my opinion, is just as wrong but not as evil (maybe she is), Miles and Mincy are spineless back pocket votes and Mostow is a proffesional con man that was released, terminated and/or bought out of most employment contracts of his later life.
As Bob Dylan once said...The winner now will later be last cause the times they are a changin...
knows it all
05-31-2005, 06:08 PM
ok let me straighten a few things out for all you know it alls who are putting your opinions in on a case of which you don't know all the facts. #1 ralph was accused my 2 admitted illegal immigrants that which on the day they said ralph said those things to them ralph was NOT there and 3 people verified that. #2 the tapes are admissible in court as said my other parties made aware to me. #3 those tapes give ralph the credibility and strenght he needs to take this district down and put all those that committed bad acts where they belong. On these tapes, former board member Raby and Nett talk about Ralph being gay, and Kaiser says and I quote: "I'm not gonna lose my house b/c this guy can't keep his hands to himself." Whose being selfish now? And not for nothin' but even IF ralph was gay he's not I know that for a fact as does his family, when was the last time an employee had to be fired b/c of that??? So let's all take a look at the broader picture here and realize how he was railroaded by a bunch of power hungry board members who think they rule the world b/c they're on a silly school board. Tina should be given a medal and you all should be thanking her b/c she helped an innocent get what he needs to clear his name. See how you feel next time your framed for a crime you didn't commit and there's no-one there to help you out.
knows it all
05-31-2005, 06:22 PM
ok I'm not finished, I think I need to educate you people on the case a little further. You're all complaining about how Tina violated her oath and is not in the best interest of the district etc...have you ever thought that maybe the reason she has done what she has done was for a good and satisfactual reason? Let's not forget those mystery letters that went out a while back about the teacher thast was having sex with UNDERAGE students, bragged about it and then it was swept "under the rug" by your former board members in EXECUTIVE SESSION!!!! He was warned twice and let go. Ralph, worked for 19 years blemish free record and was fired after 4 months to actually make a decision by a scool board of which the vote was 4-3 and the fourth vote was made by Brian Brady who was not present for any of the negotiating executive sessions about Ralph and was blind in one eye and deaf in one ear when he made that 4-3 vote ok? So you better think twice b4 you call Tina the injustice person of the board and look at what your former board members Raby and Nett and Kaiser have done to put this district in the mess its in ok? To all those who want to argue BRING IT ON.
Facts over Agendas
05-31-2005, 06:40 PM
Tina's no angel but these people crucifying her talk about the Board representing them and their children - I notice no one had anything to say when Brian Brady was absent for most of this year and the end of last. And before people start crying foul that I'm being insensitive that he's been sick...he's been at patchogue first meetings, retirement parties and medford civic association meetings FOR FOUR MONTHS BEFORE HE RETURNED TO THE BOE LAST MTG to declare he didn't tape anything. Of course you didn't you moron, you haven't been there to tape anything. You weren't even present for the exec sessions about ralph capone but knew enough to bring the fourth and deciding vote.
DID YOU KNOW - its a matter of public record and the complaint that Joe LoSchiavo was promised an exec board position in exchange for a vote to get rid of Capone.
pissed off parent
05-31-2005, 07:11 PM
before we wander far afield of the issue at hand, let's not lose sight of exactly what Tina did: she secretly taped confidential meetings and released those tapes to a party engaged in suing the school district. Now, stop right there and consider...for whatever demented reason she may rationalize her deed, it STILL REMAINS WRONG to do what she did. End of subject. As a Tina defender you will attempt to smear shit wherever you can, at Joe Loschiavo (you idiot, he ALREADY has a seat on the executive board), at Brian Brady...it doesn't matter...desperation will drive desperate acts...
Capone had a hearing, his rights and due process are still wending their way through and Tina tried to short circuit the whole thing because SHE felt he had been treated so unfairly...so much so her husband gave him a job working alongside the school board president's husband at the boat yard. Want to fling some shit? There's plenty to go around that boat yard...friggin know it all idiot...
Dems' the Breaks
05-31-2005, 07:12 PM
As far as "nobody" mentioning that Brady missed a bunch of meetings if you read some of my previous postings I have said in the past that though Brady has served the board well that due to his health issues he should resign especially with this and other major issues facing the PM BofE. We need a full board for votes.
Gee, "knows it all" seems to have "ALL" the information. Is TW or her supporters now putting some counterspin to it all? And if your statements are true, they are deplorable comments and yet another reason that school districts should be run by professionals which is another thing I've posted about. However, how is it your privy to all these remarks? Yet, it still does not justify the taping.
And I hate to keep harping on this, but even if all those statements were made and Capone is as innocent as the driven snow, the fact that the taping was done and without the knowledge of her fellow board members and then turned over to a person who is suing the same board, then Ms. Weeks is not acting in the best interests of the board which she belongs to.
Two wrongs don't make a right. She should not have taped and she WITHOUT ANY DOUBT should have not given the tape to a litigant in a multi-million dollar lawsuit. I hope you champion her from the highest mountain when your already high school taxes go through the roof paying all these lawyers and the results of a judgement against the district.
Sorry, she was a minority vote and democracy says the majority vote carries the motion.
The Great Deal
05-31-2005, 09:14 PM
pissed off parent - Executive position meaning President or Vice-President of the Board that's what he was promised in exchange for voting with the other side.
Pissed off Profanity
05-31-2005, 09:16 PM
Pissed off parent do your kiss your children with that mouth?
pissed off parent
05-31-2005, 10:36 PM
profanity:
you continue to demonstrate what a confused person you are. How could I kiss my kids with anything but my mouth? You are guilty of mixing your metaphores or something like that when you read what I've written as coming out of my mouth...I didn't "speak' those words...I wrote them you nitwit. If you can twist a simple truth like that, you would naturally have difficulty with the concept of right and wrong.
I feel sorry for you
UNDERCAT
05-31-2005, 11:05 PM
STOP ALL THIS NONSENCE IT IS TINA THE WIENA WE MUST GET!!!
DUMP TINA NOW!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!
to pissed off parent
05-31-2005, 11:32 PM
what century are you living in? WHY DO THEY CALL THESE 'CHAT' ROOMS? The words "write" and "speak" are used interchangeably in the glossary of electronic banter. Get with the times or get rehab you fried egg head brain.
pissed off parent must be patty kelly. She must've attended Catholic school with her kids too. Enjoyed watching her "get schooled," for criticizing a public education.
By the way, you spelled metaphor wrong. Hope you teach your kids to use spell check.
Seems like some people are getting upset because people who don't share their opinion have found this little site and are returning the favor of lynching and disparaging people. This is a democracy...and we're entitled to our opinions too. Smooches.
Knows it all
05-31-2005, 11:49 PM
obviously, none of you know more than what you have read or been told by previous sour grapes former board members who are neglecting to tell you that it will ultmately be THEIR fault in the end for the skyrocketing taxes due to the negligence the prior school administration this includes: Veronica Mcdermott, Barabra Kane, Patrick Nett, Ronald Raby, Brian brady, soon to be a former Anthony Kaiser. There power hungry ways of running a school board has brought on an unnecessary lawsuit which could have been compleely avoided had Mr. Capone's due process rights not been totally and completely violated! And not for nothin' but none of you who expressed your opinions had anything to say about the teacher who was and probably is having sex with YOUR students at the high school, the former board President who claims Ralph is gay, and none of you answered my question about when being gay had anything to do with being employed in a school distrcit. SO, that being said are you interested in what really happened or are you just using this as an excuse to hang Tina Weeks....b/c as far as I'm concerned, she deserves that medal.
BUNKER
06-01-2005, 12:10 AM
THANKS FOR YOUR INPUT VINNIE NO PUNN INTENDED!!!
knows it all
06-01-2005, 12:23 AM
What the fuck does that mean? That's all you can say after everythng I said? Impressive
Look.....I'm Not Here To Condone What Tina Weeks Did, But I Must Say That [/u]If What Tina Did Proves The Innocence Of A Man, Assumed Guilty And Blasted By The School Board And The Press Then Everyone In Good Conscience Has To Commend Her For Her Actions. You Are All Here On Some Sort Of Witch Hunt For Tina's Head On A Silver Platter, But What Is Forgotten Is The Fact That A Mans Reputation Was At Stake. And A Few Board Members, Four To Be Exact, That Most Of You People Voted In, Made The Decision To Remove This Man From His Place Of Employment On The Say So Of Two Illegal Immigrants. These Board Members Were Out Of There League On Making This Decision. They Should Have Contimplated What The Ramifications Would Be On Such A Decision. In This Day And Age We All Know That People Litigate. They Should Have Had Conclusive Proof Before They Were So Quick To Pull The Trigger @ Their So Called Executive Session. These Board Members Are/Were Just A Bunch Of Wannabees Who Made A Very Costly Decision For A Mans Family And Very Well Possibly The Tax Paying Public Of This District. I For One Do Not Care About How A Mans Innocence Was Achieved. I Care That It Was Or Will Be Achieved. If The Tina Tapes Help This Process .....Then So Be It. This Forum Should Really Be Irate @ The Fantastic Four Who Played Judge & Jurror On A Baseless Allegation...Thanks Mr Kaiser & Friends, My Only Prayer Is That You Four Will Still Reside In The District And Pay The Tax Increase That Your Decision Making Has Bestowed Upon Us.
BOOP Y
06-01-2005, 07:37 AM
tina GET YOUR BEAUTY REST YOU WILL NEED IT :lol: :lol: :twisted: :shock: :? :wink:
just a regular guy
06-01-2005, 08:09 AM
hey buddy you ARE loosing too much sleep over this.Witch hunt, sounds familar. You can't think every time a community is outraged that there is a witch hunt can you?Only a couple of jack asses read these threads anyway. Take some ambien and get some zzzzzzzzs
GOOMBA #1
06-01-2005, 09:34 AM
KNOWS IT ALL...your right it's not a legal issue...it's an ethical issue...when people speak in exec. sesson it is done with the knowledge that you can speak openly to all sides of an issue...what Tina did was take away that option, now one must hold back full disclosure for fear that it will be released to the public...also, if you are elected to a board you take an oath, it is understood in that oath that you will conduct yourself in an ethical and moral manner....Tina did not...she could have resigned and testified on behalf of Capone, that would have shown moral strength...but instead she betrayed the oath she took...
PMRes1
06-01-2005, 02:30 PM
What Tina did is reprehensible and she should resign or be removed. She 'railroaded' an entire community when she decided to assist Mr. Capone with his lawsuit.
But there is a more urgent issue that has been largely ignored. Is anyone concerned about the budget? The vote is less than 3 weeks <calendar> away, and another no vote will be devasting to the quailty of the schools. This should be the main focus on June 6.
Grandma Mary
06-01-2005, 02:57 PM
I agree. Its time to move on to what's at stake for our children - I hear the new budget is very lean...I hope it passes. Our school district will fall into shambles on austerity. Thank you PMRes1 for putting things into perspective. The discussion on the revote is vital. And so is (i might add) a swift ruling from the commisioner.
Know it all knows nothing but what he/she hears while painting boat bottoms. The termination of Capone was voted upon after a strong recommendation by an investigator (I have to be honest and say that I'm not sure but I think it was an investigator from the Suffolk Co Da's office or maybe the Suffolk Police Dept. I'm sure Know it all knows) that made the determination that he was guilty and, by the way, this is not the 1st time Capone was accused of this. Did you know that Know It All? It's nice to see that you made the distinction that it was illegal immigrants that made the accusation. Now we know that Know It All is a racist. Hmmm, a bottom painter racist. Anyway...these people had nothing to gain and everything to lose. They were not making a civil complaint. They are not suing the school district for money. You want to bring into consideration their illegal status? That's another forum. I'm not in favor of the overcrowding of illegals into our schools but the bottom line is that this is America and these illegals, unlike many others, are trying to better themselves and their familys by taking classes to learn our language, enough of that. Well, not really enough of that...Capone used their "handicap" and physically threatened them if they told anyone. This is the person you are defending! Their privacy was violated and they brought it to the attention of their teacher who, at that point, had no choice but to pass this information to his supervisor. Period! The only reason Capone is not on the website of child molesting predators is because these men are adults. Nevertheless, what Capone did was approach them for sexual favors when he should have been performing his job. He had no right to even engage in a conversation with these students.
Tina's problem is she forgot where her voted in loyalty should lie. We all know that she released these tapes to this sexual predator who is suing me, the taxpayer, for 50 mil. It has nothing to do with Capone's guilt or innocense. Get over it. There is no justification for what she did. Her loyalty should have been for me! You want to talk about ramifications for this man's family...he should have thought about the ramifications before approaching these men. He was there that day!!! The teacher of the ESL class testified under oath to that!!
So spin this anyway you want. He did it! She did it! And you really don't Know it All.
Blame old board members, old supers, whatever, whoever you want. Weeks should be out. Felouzis is by her side on this and should also be out.
By the way...stop underlining entire articles and capitalizing every word. You give yourself away and It's almost as irritating as the garbage you're punching out and, oh yeh, I appologise if I misspellled any wordes.
And lastly Know It All, either you are Manny Felouzis or you were in his basement and listened to the tapes with him. Another impropriety that will come out Peggy.
Know it all...
Capone's rights violated. You are on drugs. This man is a predator. His rights included facing up to the acusations at hand, testifying in front of an impartial investigator then hearing the investigators determination. He received his due rights. And your thoughts about the teacher you're mentioning...do not devert attention from the issue at hand! Nice try!
To the "underliner"
I agree with another poster. You are annoying! This "man" put his own reputation at stake when he approached those students for sex. The board members had proof, this will come out!
You are also a warped idiot! Tina's actions has cost us our reputation as a school district. Screw her! (Not litterally Ralph)
2 honest questions....
1) is there evidence that Peggy Felouzis knew abou the tapes let alone listened to them with her husband in her basement
and 2) can someone go in more detail about claims that the ESL students aren't the 1st to make allegations against Ralph Capone like the one they did.
Don't forget that the board members that voted to fire Capone, did nothing to get rid of the teacher in question, that was out preying not on illegals, but on OUR CHILDREN!! Anyone wonder why?????
knows it all
06-01-2005, 11:08 PM
to Guest: hmmmm, you bring up some pretty "good" points, howver I cannot figure out how you seem to know so much information, almost everything I know!! And no, this is not Peggy or Manny or Tina or whoever, it's someone you'd never expect, but I have caused a ruckess at past board meetings and look forward to meeting your cowardly fuckin face monday night. I do hope you bring some information to back up the bullshit you have posted b/c I certainly will and look forward to burying you in your own humiliation pile of shit. As I said before, BRING IT! Oh, so just incase I don't make a fool of myself, I would like to know some more info. on the other past accusations of Ralph being a "predator" I'd like to know what information you have and where yo got it from b/c I'm tellin you right now, if it comes out that this is Raby, Nett, Kaiser, bitch Barabra Kane, Carl Demasi, Chris CLayton or McDermott and you are continuing to slander this man and his fajmily, I don't think they'll have any fear of suing someone else.
C Cat
06-01-2005, 11:19 PM
Which guests comments are you referring to?
knows it all
06-01-2005, 11:24 PM
hmmm I'll be like you Guest and have nothing better to do than talk shit for a little bit. Ok, I don't quite know where you're getting your opinions from, but I don't wanna crush you now, bit there all wrong. The teacher never verified that ralph was there, the police were never called, and the investigator not from the DA sweety, Barbara Kane who last I heard had no experience in investigation and from what I know, her "investigation" was bringing ralph into a room, telling him he solicited sex from 2 students in may or june and then simply how do you respond, also McDermott sent ralph home on June 16 w/o giving him any knowledge of what was going on for 3 weeks until he got the bullshit charges in the mail. The former attorney for the district conducted an investigaion AFTER the case was closed for testimony, last I checked that was a violation of due process. I could go on and on about how I'm rightand you're wrong but it wouldn't get me anywhere so I'll save it for Monday, can't wait to make your night.
someone's very unhappy boy!!
This is starting to get good
when you smoke pot like you do anything seems fun........Toke up!
Can't we all just get along????????????????????????
knows it all
06-02-2005, 01:30 AM
I think the only people who will be "unhappy" are the individuals who thought they owned the PM school district and did whatever they wanted to do...did any of you highly intelligent people ever wander why those 2 illegal ADULT ESL students never went to the police, ( oh, thats right, they are here in this country illegally) why they haven't gotten a lawyer, maybe they were compensated in some way and they dont have to sue anyone ??? Why is everyone so upset?? If the board of ed. did nothing to worry about (ha,ha) taxes will not go up because they will be exonerated in Federal Court... on the other hand if a second investigation was done after the close of the Section 75 Hearing (and everyone KNOWS there was) I guess the partys that are responsible will have to pay...Someone responding seems to know an awful lot about this case...maybe its Kaiser(and we all know why he has a prejudice against gays) or maybe its Mr. Nett or maybe that Einstein Mr. Raby(so sorry about your failed business) or maybe Ms.Kane(your negligence is going to cost the taxpayers BIG) AND LAST but not least Mr. Brady(to bad the republican party knows your never going anywhere in politics) Too bad people are willing to believe what they are told by individuals who apparently are trying to justify their actions. By the way, no one is trying to divert attention from anything, the truth of the matter is a teacher at the HS bragged about his sexual affairs with students - the police did investigate this, but lets face it as long as its heterosexual sex its ok... gay equals guilty in certain board members minds. By the way, I guess no one is interested in the fact that certain people have defrauded the NY State Retirement System and guess who gets to pay- the taxpayers, forensic reports come and go, not one comment about any of that, you hypocrites- our taxes, our taxes, boo hoo, I guess when all is said and done anyone that has to express themselves in this format is rather gutless and that is why this is the last response, anything I have to say will be said in public... looking forward to meeting all you cowards, hopefully at the next boe(thats an acronym for board of education- in case you idiots dont know) meeting at Bay ave. school on 6/6/05.
know it all with sundaes?
06-02-2005, 01:37 AM
Hey know it all, will you treat us to Friendlies first? You are such a nice and generous guy, just tell us when and we'll be there!
Butter pecan is MY fave!
nutty buddy
06-02-2005, 01:39 AM
all gays like butter pecan! :roll:
Dems' The Breaks
06-02-2005, 07:53 AM
I read all the comments about Capone's guilt or innocence. Who said what, who inferred what, etc ... . Capone's culpabilty will be decided in criminal and civil court. I have my opinions on that based on what I've heard around town and here. Obviously, the facts will come out before a judge and I'm not on his jury.
I've read about what board members have said and did. And who was in bed (figurativly and literally) with each other. It seems everybody knows who's gay, racist, drinking and everything else. I hate to say it folks, but that really does not matter on whether Tina Weeks should resign or be removed from the PM BofE.
The FACT is that the SITTING VICE PRESIDENT of the BOE ... T-A-P-E-D the rest of the board WITHOUT their knowledge or permission while in an EXECUTIVE session. This would be more than enough to ask for a resignation, but then as a sworn officer of the district she turns around and GIVES THE TAPE to a person who is SUING said district in a MULTI-MILLION dollar lawsuit potentially costing that district financial damages.
I don't care if the boatyard employs Capone, Felouzis or the Rikers Island football team. I don't want to know who's sleeping with who, who has children, who can't have children (and how pray tell would you be privy to that information?) or anything else.
Weeks should have had the "dignity" to resign after the discovery of the hidden taping and handing them over to a man who was let go after a MAJORITY vote. Since she has chosen to stonewall it then the state should have her removed based on these two issues and nothing else.
As far as the budget, what have you heard? There has been nothing out on what was cut, what was added or what was moved around. Or is the board to busy dealing with this crap to focus on a NEW CHANGED budget and not the same warmed up leftovers. But don't blame the residents or taxpayers for still being upset or angry this is a MAJOR issue and what good is budget figures if because of her actions we pay a big bucks settlement.
Know It All, you feel that Capone's guilt or innocense has something to do with Weeks unethical behavior.
If you want to talk about Capone go to my new topic "Ralph loves Chachi"
This topic is "Recording Pat Med Executive session"!
This is not about Capone anymore. There is no justification for what she did. Her job is to look after our children's best interests. She has not done that anyway you look at it.
Try as you may, you cannot devert attention from the issue at hand. I'd love to see you stand up next Monday and make a fool of yourself. You are obviously a person who cannot control his or her emotions. You cannot express yourself without using profanity and physical threats. Another good example for our children. I'm glad your in Capone's corner.
Alot of mudslinging going on here people.
reply to Dems the Breaks
06-02-2005, 10:52 AM
I have to say...you are absolutely right. The personal attacks and facts of the capone case are getting us away from the point: that Tina Weeks' decision not just to tape but to give these tapes to someone suing the district is wrong and corrupt. Who gives a crap who works at the boat yard - its not illegal or immoral for Felouzis to work there. Capone working there isn't even illegal immoral. What's immoral is helping someone's case who has a case against the district when you're on the Board. This crap about whose a republican and whose a democrat, whose bankrupted a business, whose got traffic violations, whose connected, etc. no one gives a shit about. More and more people in our community have heard of this thread - which should be an opportunity to exchange factual and mature ideas and thoughts - and are completely turned off by it. Some are offended and some find it entertaining at best. Grow up folks and stick to the issue. The central issue is: Tina Weeks acted against the interest of the district by doing what she did.
Correct me if I'm wrong......But don't the school districts have attorneys that they can confer with when it comes to such matters as the firing of a person. If they do and the BOE followed the proper procedure and protocol for his removal, Then we the tax payers should have nothing to worry about because the Pat-Med school district will prevail......But if this suit goes the way of the litigants and i have to pay that means these BOE members screwed up @ my expense. It is very scary people we are talking about alot of money here. And it seems awfullly peculiar to me that Kaiser and his ego did not run for re-election........I think that if the acting board at the time did not follow the protocol then they should have to pay........NOT I..........I'm tired of paying for other peoples screw-ups meanwhile these people just walk away into the sun set leaving us tax payers holding the bag. let the litigants go for the board members personal assets........not a piece of my salary....
Amen.
I found Kaiser to be rude and arrogant. I think he had too many groups who would be out to get him thats why he didn't run. The way he spoke to people was awful.
corrct me if i'm wrong
06-02-2005, 11:51 AM
Well said ....These board members (I know I am giving them alot of credit) should have well known they were stepping on a hornets nest while making this decision for his removal. I hope also that they conferred with an attorney and the district will prevail. If not I agree...........LET THEM PAY!!!!!!!!!
correct me.
06-02-2005, 12:07 PM
You noticed that too......Kaiser not running hmmmm........does he have something to hide or is it the fact that maybe he spoke a tad to much on tape. "Make the tapes public" I would love to hear what's on them and hear what's said about all pat/med school issues.
pissed off parent
06-02-2005, 02:42 PM
the board lawyers have been pretty useless as well...incompetant and doling out bad advice. They should be taken to task for malpractice.
They are giving Tina bad advice too...
Tina should resign before she's forced to step down...she did wrong
we know it
she knows it
the whole community knows it
Dems' the Breaks
06-02-2005, 03:54 PM
To the person who replied to my latest post ... Exactly ! ... You and I are on the same page.
However, between this thread and the Patchogue Village one this town just seems to enjoy slinging mud, and ridiculous mud at that around.
I have advocated many times that we could exchange ideas, thoughts and discuss the issues here for the greater Patchogue area that is struggling to keep it's head above water, but over and over again the remarks go in the toilet.
Pissed Off Profanity
06-02-2005, 04:01 PM
Here you are again just spewing things out on the threads that have no fact. You and courageous cat must be sisters. What legal advice has the district's lawyers messed up on? Tina Weeks has her own attorney that she's paying for you idiot...the district's lawyers can't advise her on anything. You can't just arbitrarily sue people for malpractice because you've got an agenda that everyone doesn't want to be a part of. What bad advice has the district's lawyers doled out? You're either a school board member currently sitting or someone on the board is talking about confidential legal information (which is all discussed in executive session). Looks like Tina Tripp isn't the only person spreading things from executive session.
pissed off parent
06-02-2005, 07:39 PM
you know nothing or haven't been paying attention or both...Murtha & Murtha are worthless and in over their heads.
You can guess and guess about identities but it will do you no good as I am nobody and I am everybody...we are all very pissed and you will see us in force Monday for the BOE meeting.
The focus here is on one issue only: Tina violated her oath of office by giving aid to a person suing the school district. A person suing the district for 50 million dollars. She is an officer of the district. She is essentially helping to sue her own interests. She should step down and act as a private citizen...
Meanwhile, has anybody seen any revised budget figures? What is Mostow and company up to with their proposed cuts? Are we ready to face austerity in our schools?
know nothing parent
06-02-2005, 07:50 PM
the law firm isn't called murtha and murtha and you still haven't answered my questions. How are they over their heads? Why should they be sued for malpractice? How have they given bad advice? You put it out there pissed off parent that doesn't know shit. Answer the questions if you've got so many facts.
pissed off parent
06-02-2005, 07:55 PM
see you Monday night
and try to wear a clean shirt this time
bobo1
06-02-2005, 09:25 PM
They all suck. From tina the child molester protector to Brady. The kids don't have a chance. Oh by the way the molester now works at the Weeks Boat Yard, holy crap!!!!!!!!
Tina, how low will you stoop. Maybe if you weren't barren and had a child you would feel different.
There goes your chances for the legislature. Too bad so sad.
She never had a chance for the legislature... and now her husband does not either. What a shame. She could have never won that seat anyway.
patmedmom
06-03-2005, 12:53 AM
there's no need to get personal like that, bobo1, nasty cracks regarding one's fertility are crass and irrelevant. an insult to one's intelligence.
Dems' the Breaks
06-03-2005, 07:53 AM
I agree. There is no call for anything personal except the serious issues here. As previous posters have said Bobo, you make TW the victim and create sympathy for her. She does not deserve this on the taping issue or the handing it over to Capone part of the story so don't give it to her with items that besides being just rumours, don't have anything to do with the alleged wrongs. And are remarks made to hurt someone personally.
I'm against TW and her BofE actions and call for either her to resign or for the state to remove her, but "IF" your nasty, uncalled for remarks (And how would you be privy to those facts?) are even the slightest bit true, than my heart goes out to her and her husband. And "IF" it is true and they do want children than I will say a prayer for them that their dreams come true.
As far as the boat yard ... it's been mentioned about 100 times. As far as Brady ... don't even dare put him in same category. As far as TW being the molester ... if I'm a newcomer to this site reading your posting with your slander, libel and obvious lie you've just put me firmly on her side. You have enough cannon fodder here on the real issues, keep it out of the gutter.
not my heart
06-03-2005, 03:13 PM
She's ugly and barren...on the inside and out !
You are not very nice. Don't agree with her ethics, you should not comment about her personal life.
bobo1
06-03-2005, 10:28 PM
Do you people think that this witch would care one iota about your personal life or hesitate to express it!!!!!
No Brady is certainly not in the same catagory as tineee tina but he too has his own adgenda.
Breaking News!
06-03-2005, 10:52 PM
This just in. I ran into a member of the Board tonight grabbing some grub downtown and I nearly fell on the floor with the latest news in Tapegate. Aparently, Board members got a letter from the distrcts' lawyers telling them that Tina Tripp is planning to sue the Board members who voted against giving her a lawyer. That would be LoSchiavo, Mincy, Felouzis and Myles. Brady and Kaiser weren't at the mtg. Suing them for making her pay her own legal fees for the crisis SHE createD!. Last night at the scholarship night they said that you'd need a knife to cut the tension between Tripp and Mincy. I thought she was crazy before but now I know something's not right with this lady. Screw making her resign, put in her in a straightjacket.
P.S. great letters in the advance yesterday by bringmann and some teacher.
Dunce
06-04-2005, 11:56 AM
At the moment...words escape me. :cry:
bobo1
06-05-2005, 12:41 AM
I guess she made my point. :)
Show up in force people..........going to be interesting watching tina squirm.........kaiser right along with the rest of them trying to use big words when all they mean is oooooooooops im screwed. And I'll tell you another thing, if my taxes go up because of their negligence......class action lawsuit time people against the entire board personally.......................see you tomorrow
Tina Tripp
06-06-2005, 01:32 AM
OOPPPSSS!!! I did it again. I played with your heart and behaved very badly! Off with her head!!!
I couldnt make the meeting what Happened????
You missed quite a show! The Board voted to file charges against weeks to the commissioner for distributing private info on the tapes 5-2 Brady, Kaiser, Myles, Mincy and LoSchivo supported it and Tripp and Felouzis voted it down. This was the right decision for the community and I hope will force her to reisgn TODAY!
patmedmom
06-07-2005, 02:13 AM
what a show. I liked the song and dance with the budget as a warm up for the main event. I hope the media there got the true story about how pissed off the community is with the inept school board leadership. did you get the puzzled look on mincy and miles faces when they heard loschiavo's motion? peggy was stopped in her tracks. That lawyer was no parlimentarian...what dopes. tina should have shown true leadership and courage to take the moment and steap down. I can see how it's taking it's toll on the poor dear. her voice was all q-u-a-v-e-r-y- on channel 12 I felt so bad for her.
THEN I WOKE UP!
hah
patmedpoppa
06-07-2005, 02:25 AM
Waivering voice? She didn't say shit. SneekyWeeky that she is,
dipsy
06-07-2005, 02:37 AM
say what you will, she looked hot tonight, boys! Quite dolled up, that Tina...I taped her news12 intvew and made a dvd of it I can still frame her for myself. Nice legs
why was there only one person holding a tina sign?
I felt badly for capones girl. she did the right thing. you got to stand up for your dad. I don't know any of them so who am I to judge
but...wow, wasn't SHE hot?
peggy whats with the new hairdo...let christy joe do it? definitely a turn off.
let's see...
Review of BOE Meeting
06-07-2005, 03:54 AM
Felousis is so in over her head. She has no idea how to run a meeting. If you are going to be pres you need to learn how to conduct a vote, read up on Robert's Rules. Get some advice from your attorney.
The attorney did a terrible job. Had no answers. Didn't bail out the board. There were so many ways he could have helped. Should be canned.
Mincy: "Proud to be educated in Patchogue" but had to have a motion read to him 4 times and still didn't understand itl
Brady: Loschiavo's second and starting to get some fight back in him. This will probably help his health.
Tina: Nothing to say. Voted no on her own dismissal (conflict). Then claimed the school attorney would have a conflict in drawing a motion for her dismissal. No guts to resign. Worse person than anyone could have imagined. Only has Peggy still solidly in her corner.
Community is pissed and if stays involved will make these idiots do the right thing.
New Superintendant is arrogant. Stuck with him for 5 years unlsess we buy him out like his last 3 employers did.
Better than reality television except it's real and scary.
Loschiavo
06-07-2005, 03:57 AM
Solid, courageous. Needs public support to keep fighting the skunks.
patmedmom
06-07-2005, 08:58 AM
gotta love that joe loshiavo. he's got them worried. knows the difference between right and wrong. if anybody knows kids, it's joe. poor guy is outnumbered on that board, he needs more help than brady can muster. the community needs to stay involved and watch after this board like a hawk.
didn't know squat
06-07-2005, 09:11 AM
Was that you Knows It All who stood up there last night and backed the tapes? Was it you holding the lone I love Tina sign. You have proven to me that you don't know squat?
How many times do you have to hear it fool? This isn't about the tapes anymore! If your bitch felt so strong about Capone she should have used her volunteer time, stepped away from the board, and pursued her quest for his innocence.
Take your boat bottom scraped ass out of here you trailer park piece of shit!
It's about time you grew up Mincy. Way to go. Remember, your here for the kids!
Writer
06-07-2005, 09:38 AM
Where is that petition? Great job. Her actions are horrendous.
p1 watcher
06-07-2005, 10:01 AM
In my opinion the p1 village officials should have been to to the meeting to show their concern for the travesty that is occurring on the school board, they showed a lack leadership last night. Seams they more concerned with screwing theowner of little seafood joint down on ocean avenue.
You are wrong P1 watcher. They are staying away as they should. This is a school board issue not a village board issue. There are definitely issue with the Weeks part of town but, in my opinion, the village boys need to stay away.
ALL concerned tax paying residents should voice their outrage, elected or not.
Hundreds of people did go to show their outrage, Tina didnt care she is a ruthless and pshyco
I don't think psyco is the word. I think delusional is the word. She actually thinks (no really, she really thinks this) that what she did was ok. She has not accepted the fact that what she did has nothing to to with Capone's guilt or innocense. What she has done is plain wrong. Let Capone's case play out where it should, in court.
She should step down and become Capone's champion on her time and money, not mine.
Fuck you Tina.
What you did had nothing to do with the overall good of my child's education. That is where your loyalty should be! You are setting an example of good doing? You're sniffing too much bottom paint. What you did has put funding for all children's education in jeopardy because anything, yes anything you bitch, that has to be spent now comes from the kids.
Get out of the room, you make me sick. I can't believe that you're up there actually voting and still making decisions, on my behalf, for my child. You stand up there and hand out certificates to teachers who are really there for the kids. They've proven this, that's why they're there. You have no right being there. You are not in their league. Your handing certificates to them minimalizes the event. The focus was on you not them where it should be. People were just waiting to see you crash.
Just go away.
Let the board conduct school business.
There will be no credibilty, there will be no "school business'" that will benefit the kids while you are still around. There is no atmosphere in the room for this when you're there.
If it's all about the kids get the hell out. If you prove to the public that you were right go ahead and run again in a couple of years but for now get the hell out. Your presence is killing this school board.
Felouzis, you are a moron!
Line 6 should have read f-ck you Tina not banned you Tina.
i guess the site does that automatically.
Again, it was supposed to say f-ck you Tina.
TapeGate
06-07-2005, 01:41 PM
I voted for Brady but I don't think he knows what he's doing up there. I hope he realizes he's given great years of service, and let someone who is healthy run for his seat.
As far as the motion to draft charges against her, I was shocked that it passed thought for sure it would be 4-3. I didn't understand the motion or what was going on Felouzis didn't have any control. I'd have rathered Mincey get clarified on what he was voting for and voting the right way than voting to let Teeny Weeney Weeks get away with what she did.
I had no problem w/ Mincy or Miles clarifying the situation. If you're going to vote on anything you'd better know exactly what you're voting for or against.
It was great to see Mincy and Miles vote for the resolution.
...And the winners now will later be last for the times they are a changin'"
Speaking of standing tall, sticking your neck out and doing the right thing....the Board did that last night. Weeks voting for a motion to draft charges against her is disgusting. What a conflict of interest. She has got to go...and Felouzis should resign for continuing to protect her when its obvious that the community overwhelmingly doesn't support her. The motto at Tremont is once again alive today after Weeks damaged it by using that in her letter
patmedmom
06-07-2005, 02:07 PM
mincey & miles should have clarified what they were voting on BEFORE the vote was called. Once voting has begun, all debate, questions and comments end.
An amendment can be added on only AFTER the person proposing the main motion agrees to the amendment, the amendment is voted and then the whole amended motion is voted.
peggy was clearly out of her element, out of control
and the amendment was redundant and moot as loshiavos motion included everything they wanted to add...if only they were bright enough to understand. that lawyer might as well have been a potted palm for all the good he was. he should stick to writing wills and attending real estate closings.
TapeGate
06-07-2005, 02:25 PM
I think you're being overly critical. If you claim the amendment was redundant from LoSchiavo's then they voted with LoSchiavo's motion. Why are we being dramatic about how it was being done the record reflects the vote - I'm just glad it passed. The fact that the meeting got out of order was because Miss Piggy Felouzis couldn't control it - thats her fault.
patmedmom
06-07-2005, 02:39 PM
true enough that the intent and spirit of the motion was passed by the BOE. the reasoning to be critical is it's the proper procedure for such things. with all the talk of due process and all, THAT is how processes are done. Not some hob-nob of an idea cobbled together but a coherent motion voted upon in an informed manner.
That is how Robert's Rules of Order work.
Either get a parlimentarian to advise the board or get a president in there who knows the rules.
meeting goer
06-07-2005, 02:45 PM
I for one am disgusted by Patty and her Posse heckling at these school board meetings, why are they their anyhow.
Patty and her posse, as you put it, are pissed as they should be, and so should you!
All we hear is "the district is being sued, the district is being sued" Bullshit. We are being sued! We are being sued by a person who could care less about our kids. We are being sued and the price will be, if any settlement at all is reached compounded by the money already spent for legal fees, funds that would have gone to the education of our children.
This is how hideous this whole thing is. What Tyna did is help this man sue us! Don't you get it. Wake up and smell the antifouling paint, the same paint that should be painted on Tyna's mouth, because what she has done and continues to perpetrate is foul!
If you live in the Pat Med school district you are paying for this, right now, litterally! Lawyers are being paid $275 per hour to review the tapes. You are paying a lawyer $275 per hour to review these tapes! I am paying an attorney $275 per hour to review these tapes. Tapes that might be used by Ralph Capone to sue us for $50,000,000.00. Are you mad yet? Is this sinking in yet? It's only the beginning.
How can you pick on someone else. Wake up you group of stupid shits. Go wave your "I love Tyna" sign you fricken idiot and for every wave of that worthless piece of paper take $10 out of your pocket and drop it in the waste paper basket!
I say amen to that!
In addition;
I agree with Fusillo last night. this board will never be able to conduct business relevant to the education of our children with you around! You have a stink about you that is following you around wherever you go. You will not be able to shake that stink and it will continue to affect the business at hand, what's best for our children. You are not good for our children! You sit and roll your eyes, you can't even make eye contact with the people adressing you. A school Board member should be looked up to. You have taken away all dignity and repect from our elected officials.
You are 100% right that WE are being sued..That's why, without saying capone is guilty or innocent, I think if the lawsuit prevails we the taxpayers should file a class action suit against all the board members personally. If the suit prevails it's because of their screw-up not ours they should have to pay with THEIR assets..Not us , we were not included in on the firing of this man It was done during one of their so called executive sessions.
P.S. Talked to an attorney said we can absolutely sue the board.
Guess we will have to wait for the outcome.
You're not thinking about the kids. If we sue the board members we will virtually be suing ourselves. They will pass a motion to hire a lawyer to represent themselves on our wallet, if that makes sense. It will cost us tons of money. The best thing is for Weeks to disappear and to move on to more important issues that concern our children!
You sound like a Weeks supporter. Sue sue sue. (If you're not my apologies for the insult)
Capone should have been released but we don't need to discuss this here.
Please go to the "Ralph loves Chachi" posting.
I can understand Artie Fucillo's rage about these tapes and I'm all for him leading this effort as a former school board member. HOWEVER, through p1 and other village business I find Patty Kelly to be an extremely ingenuine and sneaky person...and I feel like she's pushed herself in the driver seat of this whole situation for some hidden reason people aren't seeing. I don't trust her, I don't like some of her tactics in the village and I don't want them infusing into the school district that *my children actually are getting their education* She has not been involved with anything related to the district's schools that I know of. She has the right as a taxpayer to do what she needs to do, but I'm concerned about a hidden agenda. As much as I am repulsed by Tina Weeks (long before the tapes) I would never vote for Patty Kelly either...so if that's what she's after - she ought to forget it.
By the way, Gerard Bringmann should run.
Let's just say that I'm happy the Capone family is going to quite richer then all you idiots soon enough. The board is pissed because they knew they did wrong and should have settled over a year ago. Now their upset because their fucked up actions are now coming out. And now everybody is really going to know where all the money for the past 10 years has gone.
Prepare yourselves for a repeat of the Roslyn Fuckup. Cause its about to happen in Patchogue!!!!!!!!!!! :lol:
pissed off parent
06-07-2005, 09:31 PM
take the capon rah-rah over to the ralphie loves chachie thread. this here is about a separate issue, covert tapes being made by a district officer (unethical) and handed over to a litigant suing the district for fifty million dollars (immoral, unethical and illegal)
if you are not capable of keeping the two issues apart, seeing the difference between right and wrong, then you must be a weeks, falouzis or even capone
I for one do not believe that Capone will prevail...
Go to "Ralph Loves Chachi"
I will not discuss Capone on this thread.
This thread is about Weeks making tapes.
Good friend
06-08-2005, 02:33 AM
Believe me, Patty has no desire to run for school board. Her kids go to Catholic school, and as parents of catholic school educated kids, all parents pay ALOT of money, besides our tax dollars. Money for tuition AND busing. She was speaking as a taxpayer and citizen . Too bad you cant handle that, get a life. she has more balls then most, and stands up for what she believes in, remember when she got 200 plus people in Village Hall to push the infamous Houghkirk out for his request to expand? You know the rooming house on South Ocean? She has been involved for MANY years, and wants nothing in return. She tries to teach her kids to get involved in their community and to stand up for what you believe in. poor soul, you don't get that concept.
Friend Also
06-08-2005, 09:12 AM
I agree pk has no interest in running for the school bd..Sneaky? Save that for WEEKY. Too bad she thought so highly of Brother Kevin on the planning Bd. Look how her good actions cause her so much grief. I also agree with you bringman would be great- a real ass kicker when necessary. maybe something good will come from sneeky weekt tapegate-when she leaves he can step in. Then christie Jo and peggy can go blow..
TinaTapee
06-09-2005, 12:53 AM
Went to the BOE meeting 6/6. Loschavo's motion put a fire under thier ass. The only one with common sense and half a brain. 8)
Finally. He had to force them into the only right thing to do!!!!
Right On tapee
06-09-2005, 01:31 AM
You are absolutly right! :D
I swear you people are so retarded on your Rah Rah for phony LoSchiavo who goes with whatever the wind blows. LoSchiavo's motion was not passed you idiots it was Miles' friendly amendment - which were two different motions.
Loschiavo's motion was to charge the school district's attorney, Murtha, with the responsibility for preparing the paperwork to begin the process of removing Tina Tapegate from the board WITH DUE PROCESS. Miles and Mincy couldn't understand the simple language of the motion. Loschiavo had to repeat it several times and THEN Miles amends the motion (which caused so much confusion for Worthington, the distict clerk, the so-called president and the attorney who should all know Robert's Rules of Order. Miles' motion simply reiterated Loschiavo's motion. Miles was not the hero.
pissed off parent
06-09-2005, 08:55 AM
agreed...the Guest who didn't understand what motions were in play at the meeting the other night is the true idiot here...Loschiavo's motion said it all...the others were too dense to understand, so Miles had to put it in simple language so he could understand what it was about. The dunce lawyer was no help and Peggy was over her head and out of control. Loschiavo finally forced them to take some kind of action regarding a member of their own organization (except peggy) rather than letting it appear they all thought it was okay what tina did.
They were not two separate motions. It was one motion with an amendment. Before you babble further, uninformed guest, know what you're talking about. Loschiavo is the hero. Mincy is seeing the light. Miles is still spineless. And the community is pissed off.
Tina Tripp shouldnt have voted on the motion...another conflict? The motion concerned her and she should have abstained. She was more worried about the attorney having a conflict...look in the mirror Teenie....GUILTY! Peggy still protecting Teenie...or is it her participation in this caper?
You think Peggy is a participant? Are you kidding? She has known about these tapes all along. Her husband and his friends listened to the tapes in their basement. She voted no. What a fool. I guess she feels that what Tyna did is ok.
Peggy, you should resign when Tina is removed. You obviously feel that she is being railroaded.
You're next as you should be.
Mincy & Miles, please wake up. Maybe you're starting to realize how important your jobs on the board are.
Be there for my kids.
Weeks, Falouzis and Mostow are proving on a daily basis that they're not.
Hey Joe L...Do you think it might be a good idea that all employees at Weeks boatyard are deposed. All employees from management to part time helpers. There's a big coffee circle that goes on there a couple of times a day. You want to find out what really happened. Let people answer real questions under oath.
dont get me wrong, I dont think she is being railroaded. Both Tina Tripp and Peggy the Loser should be removed.
PMRes1
06-09-2005, 11:45 AM
I think Miles and Mincy took a big step the other night. I was impressed that they both voted yes on the resolution. Mr. Miles was right to be careful about his decision. The last thing we need is another lawsuit because we didn't follow proper procedures. He was also right on Tuesday when he said that residents at the meeting 'wanted to drive a Mercedes and pay for an Escort'.
TapeGate
06-09-2005, 09:45 PM
PMRes1 - I couldn't have said it better myself. Pissed off parent you're off the mark by declaring who and who is not a hero...we have all lost because of Tina's actions. LoSchiavo's motion is only as good as if it passes. Considering no one expected tina weeks to vote on her own motion to file charges against her, it seems that LoSchiavo's motion whether it had an amendment or not wouldn't have passed if these two didn't step up. They both stated their positions clearly also...which they should've done sooner. But hindsight is bliss and I believe this Board is moving in the right direction with regard to these tapes.
TinaTripp
06-11-2005, 04:42 PM
Looks to me like the wheels are finally falling off the Weeks wagon.
Her reign of terror is about to come to an end. It couldn't come at a better time for our school district and it couldnt' have happened to a more deserving person.
Why wont she just step Down!
TAPEEEE
06-12-2005, 03:16 AM
:cry: EGO :cry:
By staying on this Board Tina Weeks is going to put the district in jeopardy of not passing this revote and going on austerity. A lot of people are voting no because she is still on the Board or they don't like the superintendent. What kind of message is that? Punish children and programs because of her lack of morals? For Artie Fucillo to go around town before the new cuts were produced and tell people to vote down the budget makes him a piece of shit and a pot stirrer. He of all people should know as a member of the Finance committee that 5% of this increase is because the old Board including Kaiser, LoSchiavo, Feluzis, Weeks, Raby and Nett gave the teachers' union sweetheart contracts - 5% of this new 9% increase is due to contractual wages, and paying for these teachers' medical insurance and retirement. There's nothing we can do until a new contract is negotiated next year. Please don't punish children for the mistakes of Janey Conetta's pals Tony kaiser, Brian Brady, Joe LoSchivo and her boyfriend Ron Raby.
PMRes1
06-12-2005, 06:22 PM
How can you trust the rest of them? What else are they trying to hide? Makes you stop and think!! All I can say is unless Tina goes, VOTE NO VOTE NO VOTE NO VOTE NO VOTE NO. VOTE NO
TapeGate
06-12-2005, 07:37 PM
I disagree. The author 2 postings ago made a good point - Tina Weeks and the budget are two separate things. You think she gives a damn if the budget goes down or not? Not a chance. She doesn't have children attending any schools so she's not affected.
All you'll be doing is punishing children by voting no and I think that's inconceivable. I couldn't possibly look in the mirror because my children won't have sports or music because of Tina Weeks. Absolutely not.
Dems' the Breaks
06-12-2005, 08:02 PM
You're right about Week's culpability regarding her secret taping and her disgraceful act of handing over that tape to a multi-million dollar litigant against the district that she has sworn to serve is different than the vote for the budget.
But this board has made a shambles of this budget with among other stupid things like the hiring of a PR firm, and bringing in additional lawyers (than the district ones) who among other things were hired to review the minutes of the BOE's own meetings. (Why Tina just didn't give them her recordings, I don't know) And anding a Supt. a major raise only to have that person retire right away with a huge increase to her pension.
I'm tired of hearing that voting no only hurts the children. Why should we change our vote when the "new" budget is just the same budget rehashed and tossed like a salad,, Just like the argument that an "austerity" budget will cost more than the original one ... huh? Where did we get this new math?
"Only hurts the children" ? Why is it that the teacher's unions in PM, WF and SC all took out ads to tell us that? Oh yes, it's because they care about our kids. Let me see some major fat cuts and I'll vote yes. Don't these boards and teachers realize that if they keep taxing us to the max that we will take flight because we can't afford to live here anymore and there will be nobody left to teach.
Dems you have posted a lot of things that are not true. Your facts are askewed. Let me clear up some facts. The district got an attorney to review the EXECUTIVE SESSION tapes that Tina stupidly recorded because a judge was ruling on whether they'd be allowed in the Capone case. How can the attorney representing the district argue on whether they're admissable or not if they don't know what's on it!? She did give the tapes to the lawyers but the lawyer is not reviewing minutes of Board meeting they are reviewing what information may be on hte tape that is damaging or confidential from executive session. Thats the first thing.
Several districts use Syntax Communications to do their literature, newsletters, presentations, and cover major events like those on the district website. Let secretaries and administrators do real work and do their jobs so they're not wasting taxpayer money getting paid to paste pictures and choosing pretty fonts on newsletters which used to happen under MacDermot.
I happen to think the PMCT doesn't give a crap about anyone but themselves but they are getting their raises and pay whether the budget passes or not. So how you think you're getting back at them by voting no for a budget is beyond me.
And you are hurting kids by voting no because an austerity budget will cut essential programs that our children need to receive a quality education. AP classes, sports, music etc. - Like the post said before this if you took out salaries, health insurance and retirement - it would be a 4% increase. But you can't choose not to pay it. Doesn't work that way.
Of course Kaiser was always going to vote the teachers a sweetheart deal...his daughter is a teacher in the district...should have never been allowed on the board anyway...
syntax666
06-13-2005, 12:08 AM
I can't afford another increase in my taxes. I lost my job two months ago and my bills are piling up higher and higher. Tell me what I am supposed to do? I don't want to hurt the kids but I have bills to pay too and a family to feed.
THE MIDDLE CLASS FAMILY WILL GO THE WAY OF THE DINOSAUR IF THIS KEEPS UP
JUDGE DRED
06-13-2005, 11:00 AM
IS TINA STILL HERE??????
Yea, what is happening?
Anything going on with the Nett / Raby petition?
Anything going on with the school board petition?
Any word from Mills?
Is this just going to go on forever?
I can't believe that she's still sitting up there conducting business.
PMRes1
06-13-2005, 02:05 PM
The real PMRes1 here and while I am not happy with the way business is being conducted, I will be voting Yes for this budget. If you're unhappy, you need to get active. Voting no is the lazy, cowardly way to deal with the situation.
For people who honestly cannot afford this increase, you have to do what you have to do and I hope things improve for you.
PM RES #3
06-13-2005, 06:28 PM
PLEASE GET INVOLVED? I SEE WHAT HAPPENS TO THOSE WHO GET INVOLVED-THEY GET BLASTED ON THIS WEBSITE.
Liar Liar Liar
06-13-2005, 08:10 PM
NEWS 12 Mostow LIAR Those words were uttered from his mouth " I am reccomender elimination of ALL Kinder." Now he is saying "it didn't come from me" backpeddeler !!!!! :oops: :oops: :oops: :oops: :oops: :oops: :oops: :oops: :oops: :oops: :oops:
Don't let the pat-med school board and superintendent scare you folks. they are now claiming they will eliminate kindergarten if the budget dosen't pass......N.Y. STATE law says they have to provide a place in class for any child of the age of 5 by december......Just another scare tactic from the bozo squad.
Don't let the pat-med school board and superintendent scare you folks. they are now claiming they will eliminate kindergarten if the budget dosen't pass......N.Y. STATE law says they have to provide a place in class for any child of the age of 5 by december......Just another scare tactic from the bozo squad. NOT A SCARE TACTICT BOZO....THE KIDS WILL HAVE A PLACE.....1ST GRADE....THEY WILL BE PLACED IN A 1ST GRADE CLASS....AS 5YR OLDS......VOTE NO AND WATCH AS PEOPLE LOSE THEIR MINDS....LOL....IM GLAD MY BUDGET PASSED THIS DISTRICT IS SHOT....BUT IT MAKES FOR GREAT READING.
Dems' the Breaks
06-14-2005, 12:29 PM
Voting "no" is the lazy way out ? !
Lazy is serving up the same budget warmed over with the numbers just shuffled around and saying to the residents "take it or leave it". Lazy is trying to scare the taxpayers with cries of "no kindergarten" (wrong) and "you only hurt the kids". Lazy is using the "A" word (austerity) rather than actually sitting down and crunching the numers and cutting some fat.
Lazy is all these adminstrators and teachers in empty classrooms because the students have moved away because their parents can't pay their taxes anymore.
Compare PM teachers salaries with some of our richer school districts .. they are not hurting. What is hurting is the struggling middle class towns of Patchogue and Medford.
PMRes1
06-14-2005, 02:11 PM
Dems -
This is not the same budget. @34 teaching positions have been eliminated along with JV9 sports, sections of transportation (field trip and late buses), curriculum writing, staff development, parts of the music program, yada yada yada.
Perhaps lazy and cowardly was the wrong way of expressing how I feel. This really only applies to people who don't take the time to understand the budget. I thought alot of ignorance was expressed by the public last Monday and Tuesday.
TapeGate
06-14-2005, 02:34 PM
PMRes1 has hit the nail on the head once again! This is not the same budget that's why the increase has gone down by 6% which is a great deal of money. I'm sick and tired of people trying to prove points by voting no on the budget because teacher's salaries are too high. Whether we're on austerity or not (yes the a word because it is a reality) you're still going to pay those salaries...so keep a lid on teachers salaries until we as a community can do something about it and that is next year at negotiation time where for the first time since CToP the majority of the Board is not in bed with the teacher's union - by July only 2 will have been endorsed by them...Brady and LoShivo.
The other thing is EVERY YEAR people say that taxpayers are threatened when the budget goes down. They are simply telling us what will be cut if it doesn't pass because they have to continue to cut things. What would you rather be informed or ignorant of the facts? Perhaps they shouldn't say anything about cutting kindegarten and then when the revote goes down they just eliminate it and yell "surprise all you parents who have kids going to kindegarten .. guess what? there won't be any!" Then you'll want to riot. You people are such hypocrites. This superintedent and Board obviously can't please all the people all the time. But it really pisses me off that people call this revote budget the same old budget. And it really pisses me off when people accuse them of not trimming the fat when they've cut out transportation, trips, professional development, sports, music, administrators, lots of teachers, Boces occupation ed - and I"m looking at the budget right now BECAUSE I WAS ACTUALLY THERE. and thinking to myself what more do you people want? Maybe we should just cut out instruction so you can have the lowest taxes possible so we can graduate kids who can't read or write or who won't amount to anything. Keep this in mind...I've said it again but for those who really are listening instead of just bitching - of this 9% increase - 5% is contracted for teacher retirement, insurance, and wages. Its mandated you have no choice but to pay this. So stop using teachers as an excuse to vote down the budget - wait until negotiations. ANOTHER THING before I go, Tina Weeks taping has nothing to do with the budget. Because after you fools who go around saying you're not voting for the budget because of Tina Weeks are finished, we'll be on austerity and she'll probably still be on the Board because she's too hardheaded to step down. Then what? We'll have Linda Tripp on the school board and a district with a lean education putting our children at a disadvantage.
i dont think people realize that teachers salaries will not be effected by a no vote.....to effect teachers salaries you must attend board meetings when their contracts are up and make it known that teachers are paid enough and that another raise wont be tolerated
Only hotheads and dummies vote no to send a message. No votes need to be reserved for Roslynesque misappropriations not petty personality differences.
I am so glad its funny to you thanks so much for your sincere concern as to the strongarmed tactics a middle class town is being threatened with.
Don't let the pat-med school board and superintendent scare you folks. they are now claiming they will eliminate kindergarten if the budget dosen't pass......N.Y. STATE law says they have to provide a place in class for any child of the age of 5 by december......Just another scare tactic from the bozo squad. NOT A SCARE TACTICT BOZO....THE KIDS WILL HAVE A PLACE.....1ST GRADE....THEY WILL BE PLACED IN A 1ST GRADE CLASS....AS 5YR OLDS......VOTE NO AND WATCH AS PEOPLE LOSE THEIR MINDS....LOL....IM GLAD MY BUDGET PASSED THIS DISTRICT IS SHOT....BUT IT MAKES FOR GREAT READING.
ladyballs
06-25-2005, 12:14 AM
Mincy is giving quotes about a pending criminal case in the paper. I love it. He blames his arrests and traffic problems on Brian Brady of all people. He was in an accident the last time he was arrested by the Suffolk County Police. This time he was driving his friends car by the Suffolk County Police. He was arrested in the Village because he was driving in the Village and drinking at the Dublin' Deck. Therefore, the Village could have had nothing to do with his arrest. The Suffolk Police must have known he was driving his friend's car to pull him over if they were targeting him. And Mincy admits the coke wasn't planted by saying it was his friends.
Let me see. He says he borrowed his friends car to retrieve something. Why would you borrow a friend's car to retrieve something without taking the friend with you? Perhaps it is because if you are going to pick up drugs, the dealer doesn't want you bringing anyone. So the friend loans you the car to pick up a "package" to share. Long night waiting for Colin by the friend.
What's the friend's name, and when are his charges pending? Why didn't you ask any follow up questions Sarah Hartman? Why didn't you ask him how Brian Brady could direct the Suffolk County Police, or how they could possibly have known he was driving his friend's car? Or how he could have been set up to be in an accident a couple of weeks ago? Why was his license suspended and why doesn't he show up for his court dates?
He looks like a fool in the story, but he should have come across even worse if the right questions were asked.
The D.A. won't make those mistakes.
ladyballs
06-25-2005, 12:14 AM
Mincy is giving quotes about a pending criminal case in the paper. I love it. He blames his arrests and traffic problems on Brian Brady of all people. He was in an accident the last time he was arrested by the Suffolk County Police. This time he was driving his friends car by the Suffolk County Police. He was arrested in the Village because he was driving in the Village and drinking at the Dublin' Deck. Therefore, the Village could have had nothing to do with his arrest. The Suffolk Police must have known he was driving his friend's car to pull him over if they were targeting him. And Mincy admits the coke wasn't planted by saying it was his friends.
Let me see. He says he borrowed his friends car to retrieve something. Why would you borrow a friend's car to retrieve something without taking the friend with you? Perhaps it is because if you are going to pick up drugs, the dealer doesn't want you bringing anyone. So the friend loans you the car to pick up a "package" to share. Long night waiting for Colin by the friend.
What's the friend's name, and when are his charges pending? Why didn't you ask any follow up questions Sarah Hartman? Why didn't you ask him how Brian Brady could direct the Suffolk County Police, or how they could possibly have known he was driving his friend's car? Or how he could have been set up to be in an accident a couple of weeks ago? Why was his license suspended and why doesn't he show up for his court dates?
He looks like a fool in the story, but he should have come across even worse if the right questions were asked.
The D.A. won't make those mistakes.
help us now
07-08-2005, 11:10 PM
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MINCEMEAT
07-12-2005, 01:11 AM
:oops: :oops: :oops: :cry: :cry: :cry: :roll: :roll: :roll: :evil: :evil: :evil: :x :x :x :shock: :shock: :shock: :? :? :? :? :o :o :o :lol: :lol: :lol: DO YOU REALLY THINK HE CARE ABOUT THE KIDDIES???
bad bad
07-12-2005, 06:13 PM
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DRANO
07-12-2005, 07:48 PM
HE IS MINCEMEAT!!!! :( :( :( :wink: :wink: :wink: :cry: :cry: :cry:
piss on
07-17-2005, 06:21 PM
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colinlover
07-24-2005, 11:39 PM
commissioner mills is so useless.
tina will stay on the board to finish her term
somebody else will be elected to fill her seat in May
mills
07-26-2005, 08:57 PM
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commissioner mills is so useless.
tina will stay on the board to finish her term
somebody else will be elected to fill her seat in May
Remember what Tina did! She choose to represent the plantiff, not the students and taxpayers, and used her board position to aid her position.
Remember that Peggy FaLoser had the audacity to nominate her for VP in July after all the scandal surfaced!
Remember that Mincy, Jo Lang, Faloser and Weeks voted yes for her, displaying total contempt and disregard for the residents of this district.
wow. you want to drag up any other old posts you can go back and find?
y'know they bring up some very good points. There's a whole lot fof hocus-pocus going on to razzle dazzle the crowd and take their eye off the man behind the curtain. Everybody prefers to ignore the two ton elephant in the living room, hoping it will go away.
Come May, the voters will have a chance to make a clean sweep and replacePeggy and Tina. Let's have a referendum to recall Colin if he's not gone by then. Obvoiusly there is no ethical leadership to be found among that crowd.
i'm not even sure if it would succeed frankly, but you can't recall a Board member before there term is up.
unless they are removed by the Commissioner which we now know will not happen given the criteria for removal doesn't fit and the connection
why not petition the commisioner?
1) he has to be convicted of a felony to be removed and it looks like as long as its taking with his case he won't even be convicted of a misdemeanor.
2) good ole Mills is friends with his family and its pretty much been said without being said not to waste our time.
Mincy can be rendered harmless by voting out Peggy and Tina in May. Then he can hang out with Jo Lang and talk about the good ol' days when they were told how to vote, while five other board members think for themselves and try to improve things.
Mincy use to be an have his own mind, but then he got arrested, and now he just goes along w/ Peggy and Tina.... I wonder how they got to him? Too bad.
Don't think it's a cake walk.
We all thought LG was going to walk away with it last time and now we're stuck with Langloser, The Falouzers puppet on a string, so don't think it's going to be another cakewalk in May or we'll end up with what we have for another year.
Now's the time to get the word out.
Don't you think that the Falouzer team already has a strategy? Don't you think they're going to try to look like heros when this new audit comes out. "Look what we uncovered" Don't you think the 4-amigos and Mostow are going to tweek this budget thing so it seems that they're going to save the day?
Don't fool yourselves. These are evil people. They do not care about our children. They've made that clear not only by words but by actions.
Now's the time!!!
Agreed. I too will not take it for granted. I've heard many people say Peggy and Tina can't win, but I wouldn't put it past them. I too believe they have some tricks up their sleeve, that's how we ended up with Bobble Head Lang.
The Anser Lady
09-29-2005, 07:36 PM
well..I agree - and I have asked one of those good people on the board how i can help change things and I got NO RESPONSE!!
I think they are shell shocked and dont know who to trust...
that plays right into the weeks/mostow camp
please...lets build something here and not let up until we get rid of these people!!! I am the answer lady becasue I am looking for answers..I am looking for one here....SEREOUSLY!
pleaSe...GIVE ME names and or phone numbers...names of organizations..give me something I can go with so I can reach out and help out...... !!!!
PS - Please dont tell me conroy or ferroro from the boosters...they have already been corupted by mostow
LG says he's going to give it another run
he needs a good platform with some other strong candidates
to get rid of the Falusis/Weeks crap-ola
Don't like the current gang four - except for one.
Would love to see PEggy and Tina go...but I hate to break it to you. I don't think Weeks is a go this time around, and I don't think Felouzis will necessarily lose. This bullshit about the tapes was well out there the last time when Lang beat Goldfarb. Its nice to see his sense of follow through but he's not strong enough as a candidate. His performace at the mic last meeting "bring on the nazis" was neither funny or impressive. you're going to have to do a hell of a lot better than that to beat Peggy and Tina if she runs. Who else you got?
strike the last sentence. He could beat Tina right now. I think anyone could. If you think they aren't gunning to put someone else up right now you're crazy. You may not like them now, but they put up decent candidates that can win - and with the exception of that girl that ran against Brady they do.
What I like about Goldfarb is nobody is going to push him around or dictate to him how he should vote.
I didn't say I didn't like Goldfarb. He'd probably do fine. I'm sure he had your vote last year but he lost pretty convincingly. All I'm saying is if you're putting someone up against Felouzis they will need to be stronger. Goldfarb lacks depth - he gets up there and rambles (although he's better spoken than MacAvoy lol) about things that don't even make sense.
Brett Houdek annoys the hell out of me with his pompousness but he would make a better choice, because of his knowledge base .I just don't think Goldfarb knows enough about the issues to make a difference.
Noreena Sperl should run.
I'm anti CTOP, but I'd take a real close look at Noreena Sperl. She's certainly intelligent and I don't think she's easily fooled or coerced. From what I've heard, her husband was one of the more moderate Ctop thinkers when he was on the board. Fiscal constraint is the #1 issue that BOE will have to deal with, and having her voice on the board may help create a healthier balance.
I agree Sperl would make a much better candidate than Goldfarb or Houdek who were mentioned previously. Plus she works in forensic auditing for the county.
as there are three if not four seats up for election in May, there's little doubt Mrs. Sperl would be a fine addition to the board.
Goldfarb lost by less than 8% margin last May (not so decisively) and, if the campaign were to be another 2 or three weeks longer would have beaten Lang. There's no doubt at this point he'd have been a better, thinking person sitting in that seat, not a bobble-headed puppet. Personally, I'll be carrying around his petition for candidacy when the time comes, as I did last year.
POINT OF REFERENCE: Mr. Goldfarb lost in every single voting precinct and Lang was tapped to run for that seat and announced her candidacy almost 2 wks after he declared he was running. So keep telling yourself that Larry.
I agree that Norena would be a great addition to the Board.
Who the heck would even consider running? No matter who it is, what they say or do, people are going to point fingers and find fault. It's the easy way out. There isn't anyone on that board, including the almighty Joe and Mr. Brady, that is without fault for the shape of this district. You better have thick skin if you are going to run, and never read this message board once you are elected, because you can be sure that in the same way you are criticizing the current board, you too will be severely criticized on here as well.
I think Goldfarb would be a good addition. I'm not sure about Houdek, he seems to be an egomaniac who likes to hear himself speak, however should he run I will certainly give him fair consideration.
And if you find he has different views then yours, you'll just bash him on here.
EARSII
10-01-2005, 11:45 PM
I HEARD ABOUT A WOMAN MUCH STRONGER THAN SPERL. PROFESSIONAL...SMART...SAVVY...
JUST YOU WAIT!!!!!!!!!
Bup - sounds like colinis in the house! SCARY!
what does this :twisted: mean?????
the right idea
10-24-2005, 11:24 AM
I think through everything I have seen, heard and read that Tina made a mistake actually several. Even though she helped the Capone's BIG TIME by giving them the tapes these tapes give the Capones such leverage it's not going to be fun in court for the opposing party, but if what I heard is correct about her calling to switch the attorney representing the Capone case to get Ralph fired and then after that fire the firm that represented the distict, then help Ralph w/giving him the tapes, that's really bad for Tina! Anyhow, I have heard some of what is on the tapes and it is not going to be good for anyone that's sitting in on this session. Kaiser is heard to say "The guy is gay" Christopher Clayton LLP is heard to talk about how his uncle Mike became gay and moved in w/his boyfriend, and it took 4 months to render this decision and that didn't seem to bother any of the board members, they sat by quietly while CLayton did a 2nd investigation, so all in all it's not going to be good for anyone. Maybe the Capones but the district is in serious trouble if this case goes to court and those tapes are played.
those tapes may be inadmissable in court as evidence
we'll just have to wait and see
I see Debbie is now on under a different name.
Give it a rest. Your husband should be lucky these victims didn't pursue him for civil damages. All he did was rightfully lose his job.
What does Tina Weeks have to do with soliciting two people participating in the ESL program for sex? Its funny now you claim Allen Robinson did all these things wrong yet for how many years did your husband collect a pay check. Didn't he know it was wrong all along or does it not matter when the money is coming in?
I hope to God a judge rules those tapes inadmissable. NOt like you have a case now anyway - you certainly will be left with nothing then.
Who is this talking all this trash?
Is it Tina? Allen Robinson? Brady? Nett? Mona? Kaiser? Clayton? You seem to have the biggest balls to talk shit to everyone that posts a reply but can't identify yourself.
I just feel sorry for all of you because when this go's to court your all going to be in alot of trouble. Maybe even arrested!!!
Funny how certain paperwork gets into the right hands at the right time!! You all must feel stupid now, don't cha!!!! Remember you can't lie in court because the truth is all on the the paperwork that's been floating around and now in the right hands!!!
Debbie you're a giant moron. Just wanted to let you know.
First of all, this is not Debbie!!!
So get that idea out of your head asshole!
Just Prepare yourselves!!!
I hope you can all handle the jail environment!!! Since your all supposed to be so tough and keep letting the diarrhea run out of your mouth!!!! :lol:
Wow you're just posting away with your negativity on both threads now aren't you. Well I'll follow you wherever you go. I don't have anything better to do today. Obviously you don't either. So bring it...Debbie lover
PM wins case against capo
10-25-2005, 03:35 PM
Jail? Your kidding right? Cover story on the front cover of the Advance "FORMER ACCUSED PATCHOGUE-MEDFORD EMPLOYEE CASE THROWN OUT IN COURT." Just remember they tried to settle with you.
PM wins against Capone
10-25-2005, 04:20 PM
I have a secret I have a secret and guess what Debbie Im not telling you! :twisted:
knowsitall
10-26-2005, 11:44 AM
nice try. the cae was never thrown out of court morons. in fact each attorney representing the opposing side tried to get this case thrown out and repeatedly i has been DENIED. there was never a headline on the front of the advance saying that unless I haven't seen it yet so gimm some info. on that b/c I don't know it all in regards to just that headline. one more thing, it was decided looooooooooooooong ago that those juicy little tapes ARE admissable in court. NICE F*CKING TRY
Dear Lil Debbie Cakes,
LEARN HOW TO READ. "PM Wins against Capone" stated this WOULD be the headline WHEN your case gets thrown out of court (which I happen to agree it will)
And Debbie, it was decided a looooooooooooong time ago that those tapes are "DISCOVERABLE" but their admission into evidence has yet to be ruled on.
Don't you pay attention? Or does tha wack a doo lawyer you've got not tell you what side your bread is buttered on?
PM wins agnst Capone
10-26-2005, 12:37 PM
Just for the record it is not a crime to call someone gay. Big deal he is gay. People hire and fire lawyers everyday especially if you think they are not representing your best interest. Maybe you should think about yours because he or she just threw your case right out of the ball park. You would of had a case if you sued on other terms but someone must have been drinking on your team. By the way you might want to have your house appraised because you might have to sell it to pay back all the other sides legal fees. Now Debbie get off the school district computer that you are on and do your job that the school district is paying you to do you know the school district you are sueing and going to lose too. :twisted:
ouch you people are brutal.
knowsitall
10-26-2005, 05:16 PM
you keep calling me debbie and debbie cakes how funny you are!! hope that sense of humor saves you when your sued anyway...this case could have and should have been settled long ago but the distrcit was cheap w/their offer for everything the Capones have been through. There father has been labeled a gay child predator, their mother has to work in the environment and their daughter had to leave 6 months early b/c she couldnt stand to see any of the people who did this to her father. Mostow made an insulting offer that was not worth taking and going to court would be better b/c when they win they'll get more money and the truth about what c*nty Tina did will come out. So keep w/the name calling and w/e gets you off I don't care but when this is all over and you all see what really happened and not what you think happened, you'll be pretty shocked and apologetic to the Capones. TINA'S GOING TO JAIL TINA'S GOING TO JAIL TINA'S GOING TO JAIL TINA'S GOING TO JAIL TINA'S GOING TO JAIL TINA'S GOING TO JAIL TINA'S GOING TO JAIL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
what are you going to sue me for? I'd love to know that lol.
WHat is Tina going to jail for? You've yet to produce one iota of fact or evidence. I don't even like the woman but I sympathize with someone whose taken so much flack for standing up for someone and going to bat for someone and t hat person turns around attacks her and makes her a target for their own wrongdoing? Such sadness I have.
If there is ANYONE who should sue anyone for what they write on here, I hope you, my friend are the one that gets sued. I don't believe a thing you write. And your reason for not citing specific evidence until court is rooted in your delusional way of thinking. Not now or in court will anything put Mrs. Weeks in jail. Stop with you lies. They didn't work before they're not going to work now.
knowsitall
10-31-2005, 11:18 AM
I have plenty to warrant for Tina's arrest but I just can't let it out yet I don't want Tina to be prepared for when she has to defend herself I mean after all they did it to Ralph they got information and didn't tell him so he could defend himself now they'll do it to Tina. TINA'S GOING TO JAIL TINA'S GOING TO JAIL TINA'S GOING TO JAIL TINA'S GOING TO JAIL TINA'S GOING TO JAIL TINA'S GOING TO JAIL TINA'S GOING TO JAIL TINA'S GOING JAIL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
you couldn't prove your case before a stupid arbitrator - you won't prove it on court. The only person that made your husband solicit those boys for sex was is own twisted and perverted mind.
knowsitall
11-02-2005, 11:11 AM
amazing how everyone continues to ignore the fact that Ralph's sexuality was discussed on those tapes and that was the reason they fired him the Capones even have Kaiser on tape and Christopher CLayton talking and accusing Ralph of being gay!!! Also I love how everyone ignores the fact that the day those 2 men said this soliciting shit happened he wasn't at the Temple and 3 people testified to that as they will in federal court again!! So continue on w/all your rants and raves the truth will come out about what Tina has done to royally screw this district and how Ralph was railroaded and this ws never about money its about retribution for what he and his family have been put through these last 2 years of their life the most imporant thing to them is getting a PUBLIC apology for what happened and clearing his name so why not do it in court on TV if the district is too cocky to settle. 1 more thing....paper doesn't lie, maybe the Capones have some things called "legal bills for the district" ooooooooo I wonder what those itemized bills could say???????????????????????????
knowsitall
11-02-2005, 12:08 PM
cat got ur tongue??? :shock:
PM wins agnst Capone
11-02-2005, 03:49 PM
Oh it is Wednesday. Nice to see you back knowsitall. Hey did your husband ever give the keys to the school back or did he give them to you to go snoop? With a background in law I will tell you again it is not illegal to talk about someones sexuality but it is wrong to solicite sex on school district time in a temple. You would have cleared your name and maybe had a case if your lawyer had advised you correctly. But there is no chance now on that. Legal bills please people hire and fire law firms all the time. Bills have nothing to do with the case and again you lawyer is not advising you correctly. So Debbie or Norina whoever you are get your facts straight. The school district offered you or him his job back and in got faith and you turned it down. See you on the unemployment line.
Knowitall I'm so tired of you and your lying misinterpreting self that I have resigned myself from even going back and forth with you. You are a baffoon of the highest order.
knowsitall
11-02-2005, 04:53 PM
Ill call it spade of spades b/c again as usual I guess u dont like to read clearly and see the truth in what happened. Your a selfish c*cksucking b*tch or if ur a man a useless moron who can't handle the truth u won't ever see me on the unemployment line and the keys are out their somewhere lol, solicitng sex on distrcit time at the temple u really cant read can u?? Oh well Im not gonna try to reason w/u Ill just wait until the time is right to reveal myself and you to reveal yourself then well fight bye
knowsitall
11-07-2005, 11:07 AM
let me fill you in: Capone did nothing and 4 people proved it end of story if you don't believe that by now you'll believe it when they testify in court. #2 the secret taping had to be done to help Ralph and Tina did it ON HER OWN Nobody forced her or asked her to do it for anyone. I don't know what her exact motives were I do have some ideas as to why she did this but I can't say exactly for legal reasons. And surprise, surprise, the tapes ARE ADMISSABLE IN COURT!!!!!!!!! Morally to some, it may be wrong but legally it's totally acceptable, sorry guys. Let me ask all those who think that giving the tapes to R$alph was a bad idea: If your husband or brother or any man close to you was accused and then proved innocent but blamed a gay child molester behind closed doors so he couldn't defend himself, how would you feel if nothing was done about it unil the tapes were given to him? Granted, Tina should have or not even just Tina any of the board members present for those meetings taped should have stood up and said something, but none of them did!!! That's why this district is in such shambleds nobody has the balls to stand up and speak! So as far as I'm concerned they're al corrupt and the truthn will come out in court and everyone will see the light that has been so well hidden for years about how bad this distrcit really is.
Lil Debbie Cakes
11-07-2005, 11:48 AM
Dear Lil Debbie Cakes or Ryan or Ruth - one of the three -
If it weren't for Tina Weeks this case would not have had the exposure it has. And certainly the only ace in the hole you've got is those tapes so under what auspicies you would portray her as someone that is bad to your cause after hiring Ralph to work at her husband's boat yard when no one else would hire him is beyond me. You turned on the Robinsons who gave you a roof over your head and helped you and your family out tremendously now you turn on more people to help you out.
Take a long, hard look in the mirror. You are opportunists and self-degradaing ingrates. I used to be a supporter and I used to be empathetic to your cause, but your lack of loyalty and friendship is well noted and I look forward to the day when a court throws out your suit and you're stuck having to pay all those legal bills. And then you'll be stuck with another lawsuit filed by the district for filing a frivolous law suit since the school district's decision to terminate Ralph was the recommendation of the independent arbitrator.
So Tina Weeks who risked her entire seat on the BOE set up this whole scenario with Ralph Capone. Then Barbara Kane and Allen Robinson who hate her guts, teamed up with Tina Weeks to build a case against your husband. How am I doing so far? Okay so then someone must have bought off an independent arbitrator who performs successful arbitrations for multiple municipalities to not support reinstating him? Now since your looney lawyer has fucked up so many things for you, you turn on the person who produces the only evidence that Ralph's civil rights may not or may have been violated?
There is something wrong with the water over there on Bailey Avenue. You people belong in the looney bin.
knowsitall
11-07-2005, 12:26 PM
I love how try to figure out who I am it's really clever on your stupid part. Anyway, the case will not be thrown out the opposing parties of Ralph have tried numerous times to get this case thrown out and numerous times the judge keeps saying no this case is a go ahead. I don't belong in a looney bin if anyone does, it's Tina why would she make a phonecall to get a different attorney to represent the district in the case, then give the tapes to Ralph, then fire the firm that got him fired??? She's crazy!!!!! Another thing, Ralph could have gotten a job anywhere, but desperate times call for desperate measures and Tian was right their to help Ralph and him unknowingly what she was really up to took the job. How else was he gonna pay his bills. So keep on w/your "I'm right everyone else is wrong" attitude and we'll see how right you really are in court a**hole.
PM wins agnst Capone
11-07-2005, 12:52 PM
Oh Knowsitall it truly was a trying weekend for you. How much is you house on Bailey worth cause you are going to have to put it up to pay all the lawsuits that will come your way when you lose. We do not care about the tapes anymore. All that is on it is a bunch of men banging their chest calling your Ralph gay. Again it is not a crime. You are going to need the Easter bunny to pull out of your hat to win this one. "Oh happy days , Oh happy days!"
Debbie you are trash. And that's exactly where this lawuit will end up. In the trash with your trash mouth and trash values and your trash family.
KNOWSITALL
11-07-2005, 06:00 PM
watch what ypu say about the Capones. That's all I'll say they're like China SILENT BUT DEADLY
The Capones and good china should never be used in the same sentence. Whatever china they've got they either stole from Allen and Rita Robinson or Allen and Rita gave it to them because they weren't using it anymore. Or maybe one in the set broke so they gave it to them b/c they were going to throw it out anyway.
Deadly? I don't know about that. Although there appears to be a danger posed to young boys. oops I stand corrected...young men.
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