Another example that Some FDNY hates Vollies

[Both FDNYandaVolly]

I read an editorial in todays Newsday from a 20+ year veteran of the FDNY who claims to be in a busy firehouse. Mr. John Curcio stated that all his firehouse has is a TV and a broken pool table leg. He further stated that the tiki bar in a volly house is an example of "taxpayers money" put to work. First Joe, what house are you in? I will gladly cross the borough to see if what you say is true..I seriously doubt it!!

Mr. Curcio of FDNY..I think you are entitlted to your opinion, but when giving it, make sure you tell the truth and not just your slanted side of the story. I too am 20+ year vet with FDNY, I too am in a busy house, but in Queens. I like many other brothers on the job am also a volunteer firefighter in a town...fairly close to West Sayville where you live. In my career filled with relocations and a promotion, yes, I have seen may shithole firehouses, but I have seen some damn nice ones with commercial kitchens that would rival some of that may be seen in the finest resturaunts in Manhattan! I have seen the picture of The Tiki bar that you speak of...it looks nothing more to me than a back yard deck bar that can be purchased at any patio supply house. No question we put our time in on the job for an often thankless city, but Mr. Curcio how many times has your brother fireman tapped out for a bs injury, or better yet how many times has your brother fireman tapped out for an injury that occured in his back yard, but hobbled in to work, only to get fraudulent compensation from the city. Dont preach to the public about a broken system when you are earning a paycheck from another broken system.

Cmon brother..there is abuse in every organizaion in the world..it doesnt make it right..but to take the time to write an editorial to bash a tax based organization in the fire department..but not have the balls to bring up Sayville Schools taxes, which represent an estimated 900% higher tax hit to your wallet than your fire tax is plain upsurd and self serving.

A few hundred bucks a year gets you a bunch of vollies with a decent firehouse, a bunch of nice trucks and so what a small bar where the brothers can hang and watch a damn football game. Who the hell cares!! A few THOUSAND dollars gets you grossly over paid teachers and administrators in a failing school system...and unlike your few hundred dollar a year fireman...teachers get off weekends, holidays, and vacations of more than two months a year

I was a proud vollie before I got on the job, and will be one long after Im retired from it!!!

[scholar!!!]

Nicely Written. Paid Or Volunteer. At The End Of The As Long As You Go Home You Did A Good Job!!!!

[Unregistered65967497]

Proud Volly Forever??

How does the UFOA feel about that??

[FDNYVOLLIE]

Proud Volly Forever??

How does the UFOA feel about that??

What would you expect them to say, they are a labor union. I am also a FDNY and Vollie for many years. I do not understand why we do this to each other. I go to Albany each year for the service, look at the wall and see the names who we lost in the LOD. I did not see anything next to their names if they got a pay check. We call ourselfs "Brother" , why not start acting like it. That means both sides!

Be safe, I have seen great fireman on both sides and I have seen bad fireman on both sides. Getting paid or being a vollie does not make you good. It is what is inside you that makes a great fireman.

[UnregisteredAMEN]

What would you expect them to say, they are a labor union. I am also a FDNY and Vollie for many years. I do not understand why we do this to each other. I go to Albany each year for the service, look at the wall and see the names who we lost in the LOD. I did not see anything next to their names if they got a pay check. We call ourselfs "Brother" , why not start acting like it. That means both sides!

Be safe, I have seen great fireman on both sides and I have seen bad fireman on both sides. Getting paid or being a vollie does not make you good. It is what is inside you that makes a great fireman.

AMEN

[BothVollyandPaid Part 2]

Proud Volly Forever??

How does the UFOA feel about that??

Relax with that, that is a cop out of a response and you know it. it was purely meant to incite a harsh reaction..so here it is..All the UFA, UFOA cares about is that volunteers are not taking jobs away from where there are paid fireman. 99% of Long Island is volunteer and that's the way it will possibly stay for the near future. The mere notion that my union doesnt want me to volunteer in an all volunteer fire department that is 37 miles from my paid firefighter job is pure crap. I take the position that I volunteer because I want to, those that choose not to volunteer simply because someone told them not to is simply their choice. NO UNION has the right to control what you do on your own time, there is such a thing as civil liberties. Some of the best bosses and fireman that I have worked with, Ive seen at volunteer fire deptment fires, parades, conventions etc.

The old days of being a volly and being on my job as being taboo are largely gone. Sure there are plenty of guys in my house that hate vollys..I dont understand why. I could care less. Take a step back and look at the picture and try and analyse why..I bet most of these guys wouldnt have a sensable answer. The brothers in my firehouse are life long friends, and some new ones that I would step in front of traffic for. I think ones hate for vollunteerism on Long Island is so misguided that they havent taken the time to step back and realize that, thats what we got out her..mostly volunteer. So relax. Nobody is taking jobs away..if they were, I would be the first in line to say something.

My union is strong, and they have laws concerning being a volly. The simple fact is that an overwhelming amount of the the brothers on the job..ARE ALSO VOLUNTEER FIREMEN.. Eventually if and when Long Island turns paid, then unions will have an absolute legitimate gripe about jobs being filled by volunteers. So while Ling Island remains largely volunteer, I will also remain one, and continue to stand by my post earlier to start this thread.

Be safe

[Unregistered11111111111]

You have deputy chiefs and battallion chiefs in the FDNY that are vollies and some are even chief of the dept in a vollie house ,mine is and a damn good one at that .

[Unregistered1212121212]

What would you expect them to say, they are a labor union. I am also a FDNY and Vollie for many years. I do not understand why we do this to each other. I go to Albany each year for the service, look at the wall and see the names who we lost in the LOD. I did not see anything next to their names if they got a pay check. We call ourselfs "Brother" , why not start acting like it. That means both sides!

Be safe, I have seen great fireman on both sides and I have seen bad fireman on both sides. Getting paid or being a vollie does not make you good. It is what is inside you that makes a great fireman.

spoken like a true volly buff

[Unregistered12121212]

The have f/t paid EMS in my town and these idiots continue to volly to do fire calls for free.

Duh

They will never give it up.

Without the little flashing blue lights, the tuff-guy volly t shirts and the local clubhouse, the misfits that call themselves firefighters would surely shrivel up and die.

What if no one volunteered???

They'd F****** pay guys.

By the way, please don't ever put busy and Queens in the same sentence again.
Maybe 'busy...for Queens would work'

[norespectforhim]

Both volly and paid was trolling the boards as they say and saw your letter. I really think you are a stand up guy and like your opinion on the Long Beach mess about the councilman who got his disabilty and started competing in races 6 mos later. If you dont want to comment I understand. Thank You for sticking up for a needed taxpayer service.

[Unregisteredok]

To the "person" that started this thread. I say "person" because aint no way your a "brother" saying the shit that you do. Nice try you assbag. Take the next test ass pirate

[Coram Firefighter]

I read an editorial in todays Newsday from a 20+ year veteran of the FDNY who claims to be in a busy firehouse. Mr. John Curcio stated that all his firehouse has is a TV and a broken pool table leg. He further stated that the tiki bar in a volly house is an example of "taxpayers money" put to work. First Joe, what house are you in? I will gladly cross the borough to see if what you say is true..I seriously doubt it!!

Mr. Curcio of FDNY..I think you are entitlted to your opinion, but when giving it, make sure you tell the truth and not just your slanted side of the story. I too am 20+ year vet with FDNY, I too am in a busy house, but in Queens. I like many other brothers on the job am also a volunteer firefighter in a town...fairly close to West Sayville where you live. In my career filled with relocations and a promotion, yes, I have seen may shithole firehouses, but I have seen some damn nice ones with commercial kitchens that would rival some of that may be seen in the finest resturaunts in Manhattan! I have seen the picture of The Tiki bar that you speak of...it looks nothing more to me than a back yard deck bar that can be purchased at any patio supply house. No question we put our time in on the job for an often thankless city, but Mr. Curcio how many times has your brother fireman tapped out for a bs injury, or better yet how many times has your brother fireman tapped out for an injury that occured in his back yard, but hobbled in to work, only to get fraudulent compensation from the city. Dont preach to the public about a broken system when you are earning a paycheck from another broken system.

Cmon brother..there is abuse in every organizaion in the world..it doesnt make it right..but to take the time to write an editorial to bash a tax based organization in the fire department..but not have the balls to bring up Sayville Schools taxes, which represent an estimated 900% higher tax hit to your wallet than your fire tax is plain upsurd and self serving.

A few hundred bucks a year gets you a bunch of vollies with a decent firehouse, a bunch of nice trucks and so what a small bar where the brothers can hang and watch a damn football game. Who the hell cares!! A few THOUSAND dollars gets you grossly over paid teachers and administrators in a failing school system...and unlike your few hundred dollar a year fireman...teachers get off weekends, holidays, and vacations of more than two months a year

I was a proud vollie before I got on the job, and will be one long after Im retired from it!!!

If you would like a 7.7 millon dollar ghost town, Tiki bar, plowing and lawn service please call (631) 732-5733 and ask for our commissioners. Thery can make all of this happen but watch the moral go down the shiter.

[2885480]

if you do so much work in thwe quiet suburb of queens why do you need to be a voulteneer, do us a favor and stay in queens!!!

[345968]

if you do so much work in thwe quiet suburb of queens why do you need to be a voulteneer, do us a favor and stay in queens!!!

And you learn how to spell !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[345968]

And you learn how to spell !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Oh Boy I mispelled a word too!

[FDNYwaryears]

spoken like a true volly buff

I know when I say want I want to, some of you assholes will act just like assholes. So here we go, I am retired FDNY and a officer, I was in companies doing 9,000 calls a year. I am a vollie also, some of you 2 to 5 years FDNY members are living off our time and 9/11. When I was on the job, if you did not do 6,000 per year, you did not make the top 25. I do not have to explain myself to you, but go fuck yourself calling me a "Vollie Buff". I am /was proud to be FDNY and a Vollie. I forgot more then you will ever know or see.

[Coram Firefighter]

I know when I say want I want to, some of you assholes will act just like assholes. So here we go, I am retired FDNY and a officer, I was in companies doing 9,000 calls a year. I am a vollie also, some of you 2 to 5 years FDNY members are living off our time and 9/11. When I was on the job, if you did not do 6,000 per year, you did not make the top 25. I do not have to explain myself to you, but go fuck yourself calling me a "Vollie Buff". I am /was proud to be FDNY and a Vollie. I forgot more then you will ever know or see.

This sounds like the once great Van Johnson from of Coram?

[Unregisteredvbuff]

vollie buff

its hard to imagine that after you were so busy chasing bars boxes in queens all tour that you actually could find the time to come home and volly

[24842842848]

well said

[johhny lungs]

What would Johhny think of wasted taxed dollars????

[976904831]

waaah

[Unregisteredtp]

Yes, please stop volunteering so that suffolk can go to a paid department. I can't wait for my taxes to go up. Oh and then we can give the new paid firefighters parity with the lazy ass do nothing suffolk cops. That sounds like a plan. Then when it gets too expensive for the county to pay all those salaries and pensions, the county exec. can replace the paid firefighters with county sheriffs.

[Suffolk County Fire Dept.]

A paid, centrailzed suffolk co. fire dept. would be more practical, efficient and cost effective than the current system.

[Registeredunion]

A paid, centrailzed suffolk co. fire dept. would be more practical, efficient and cost effective than the current system.

THE PRECEDING MESSAGE WAS BROUGHT TO COURTESY OF THE U.F.A.

Where we say what good are your tax dollars if they're not going to make us unions richer....

[FDNYlong time]

THE PRECEDING MESSAGE WAS BROUGHT TO COURTESY OF THE U.F.A.

Where we say what good are your tax dollars if they're not going to make us unions richer....

U.F.A. could care less, they would not get one dime of the dues. It was brought to you by a vollie who wants to get paid and can not get on the FDNY . Who would care is the IAFF, they would get the dues. I respect vollies and the job you do. I also know getting a pay check does not make you a "good fireman". So please stop trying to make this site something it is not. I worked next to many of you at the "Pile " you did a great job for us and thank you. WE should not be kidding each other's ass like this. and are all part of the brotherhood . Now if some jerk wants to say something, OK I understand, but I still respect you all for what you did for us and what you do everyday . PS I live in NYC so I can not belong to a Vol. Dept, but I would if I could

[Unregistered35]

Who cares? When your dept. bangs out with a job..your still fighting fire..the fire doesn't know if your getting paid or not..just get the job done and get home.

[UnregisteredBSBSBSBS]

Who cares? When your dept. bangs out with a job..your still fighting fire..the fire doesn't know if your getting paid or not..just get the job done and get home.

ahhh the classic fire doesn't know quote, used by all vollys to feel that somehow they are really getting it done and somehow they are just as good as professionals...lets face it...99% of volly misfits go to a fire and watch the other 1% get it done, then they go and brag about how they fought the red devil. tell you what ....back your volly rig into a firehouse in the ghetto and see how good you really are....that actually happened after 9/11 for a few days...I was there...we actually had a volly rig from upstate take in a job with us....they were ordered to stay in the street and watch...exactly where they belong....

[Unregisteredfag]

ahhh the classic fire doesn't know quote, used by all vollys to feel that somehow they are really getting it done and somehow they are just as good as professionals...lets face it...99% of volly misfits go to a fire and watch the other 1% get it done, then they go and brag about how they fought the red devil. tell you what ....back your volly rig into a firehouse in the ghetto and see how good you really are....that actually happened after 9/11 for a few days...I was there...we actually had a volly rig from upstate take in a job with us....they were ordered to stay in the street and watch...exactly where they belong....

so while other brothers were at the wtc, you were running calls? good job backing up your paid brothers... or what are you in some bullshit mary house in like bayside. LMAO

[Unregisteredvolly12451]

so while other brothers were at the wtc, you were running calls? good job backing up your paid brothers... or what are you in some bullshit mary house in like bayside. LMAO

you see, that comment shows how little you know about the real job..On 9/11 and in the days afterward while you were watching it on tv, we went from wtc back to the firehouse back to wtc back to the firehouse for days without a break, without going home or getting a shower

you keep your little fantasy that you are a real fireman alive....Im sure it makes you feel important

FYI look up the South Bronx on the map...its not quite bayside

you couldnt hold my d*** at a fire you volly buff

[094575570808]

then all you real fireman should do all of us vollies a favor and quit the vollie dept. because we realy don't want you here.

[UnregisteredFF!]

Van johnson blows

[Unregisteredwerbgwelib]

ahhh the classic fire doesn't know quote, used by all vollys to feel that somehow they are really getting it done and somehow they are just as good as professionals...lets face it...99% of volly misfits go to a fire and watch the other 1% get it done, then they go and brag about how they fought the red devil. tell you what ....back your volly rig into a firehouse in the ghetto and see how good you really are....that actually happened after 9/11 for a few days...I was there...we actually had a volly rig from upstate take in a job with us....they were ordered to stay in the street and watch...exactly where they belong....

WANNA GO A COUPLE OF ROUNDS PRICK COME TO 1ST DIV I WILL MEET YA

[Unregistered1stdiv]

WANNA GO A COUPLE OF ROUNDS PRICK COME TO 1ST DIV I WILL MEET YA

Ill meet ya..but how bout you come to East NY.....take the train..get off at Livonia and Pennsylvania

[Unregistered35]

ahhh the classic fire doesn't know quote, used by all vollys to feel that somehow they are really getting it done and somehow they are just as good as professionals...lets face it...99% of volly misfits go to a fire and watch the other 1% get it done, then they go and brag about how they fought the red devil. tell you what ....back your volly rig into a firehouse in the ghetto and see how good you really are....that actually happened after 9/11 for a few days...I was there...we actually had a volly rig from upstate take in a job with us....they were ordered to stay in the street and watch...exactly where they belong....

89% of the country is Volly, Get used to it chizzle dick, and go easy with calling yourself a professional..

http://gothamist.com/2010/03/19/a_windsor_terrace_resident_had.php

[Unregisteredvolbufffd]

89% of the country is Volly, Get used to it chizzle dick, and go easy with calling yourself a professional..

http://gothamist.com/2010/03/19/a_windsor_terrace_resident_had.php

ok so there's 89% volly buffs in the country (wow thats alot.. maybe I should sell blue lights as a part time gig)..then another 10% professionals..then theres the 1% (FDNY)....and within that 1%..there is even a smaller group of elite....where do you fall in ?? I know where I do...

you are like a freggin stateside cook in the army during wartime comparing yourself to an airborne ranger...give it up.

[FDNY33yrs]

ok so there's 89% volly buffs in the country (wow thats alot.. maybe I should sell blue lights as a part time gig)..then another 10% professionals..then theres the 1% (FDNY)....and within that 1%..there is even a smaller group of elite....where do you fall in ?? I know where I do...

you are like a freggin stateside cook in the army during wartime comparing yourself to an airborne ranger...give it up.

I do not not think you are on the job. If you are "God help us ". If you were on during 9/11 you would know how much the vollie's helped us. They were on the pile, in our fire houses, attended all the funnels and let us use their FD for a beer fest. I do not have to explain anything to you, but I worked in Lad 43, Lad 108, Lad 58, R2, R1 while I was on the job from 1966 to 1999. The years we did not go to EMS calls and still did 9,000 for some units. If you are on the job, then cut the shit. I went down to the pile for months looking for the 40 guys I knew, what did you do? Shut the fuck up and go away. Thank you to all the vollies who helped, a lot of people will never forget that

By the way, if you are on the job "What is a CD72"

[Unregisteredcd72]

I do not not think you are on the job. If you are "God help us ". If you were on during 9/11 you would know how much the vollie's helped us. They were on the pile, in our fire houses, attended all the funnels and let us use their FD for a beer fest. I do not have to explain anything to you, but I worked in Lad 43, Lad 108, Lad 58, R2, R1 while I was on the job from 1966 to 1999. The years we did not go to EMS calls and still did 9,000 for some units. If you are on the job, then cut the shit. I went down to the pile for months looking for the 40 guys I knew, what did you do? Shut the fuck up and go away. Thank you to all the vollies who helped, a lot of people will never forget that

By the way, if you are on the job "What is a CD72"

If you were on the job, then you know that you shouldn't be doing it for free at the local volly buff shit shop. Oh and by the way...a CD72 is used to document an injury.

[Unregistered1325]

I was also in the military ....how about you? ...you know what an etnac ts/sci security clearance means???

[14790147]

wow cool

[FDNY33years]

If you were on the job, then you know that you shouldn't be doing it for free at the local volly buff shit shop. Oh and by the way...a CD72 is used to document an injury.

Yes I was on the job when you were still shitting yourself. You never answered the question " Where were you on 9/11", in High School. If you hate the "Volly Buffs" then why are you on a site like this. My quess is that you are in a engine co. running to all of them EMS calls and telling all the girls your war stories.

[Unregistered6661313]

Ill meet ya..but how bout you come to East NY.....take the train..get off at Livonia and Pennsylvania

get off at fountain ave and sutter ave and you got a set of balls. right next to the cypress projects, you must be a NYPD pussy.

[UnregisteredMedic]

FDNY33, hes a douche. We need more guys on the job like you, not primadonnas like this jackass. I WASN'T on the pile, but my fire department was. Some of these guys out here have a ton of heart and a ton of knowledge, but your bretheren wouldn't ever understand that. Its ok, guys like him make it fun for people like me to fuck with CFRS who walk around like their shit doesn't stink. For those brothers in FDNY who do the right thing, remember, IT DOESN'T GO UNNOTICED, KEEP IT UP!

[7890780798]

well said