Demise of Ethical Standards In Government In Suffolk County

[Need WatchDog]

How can a government official who works for a local town government and a a major contracting concern at the same time legislate and sponsor and enact law that has a direct potential to help his business and that of others on the town board?

How can this same individual with ties to local government become Head of the Local Chamber of Commerce and still hold on to positions of influence within town and county government?

How does this same individual who now works at a county job and at the same time get a paid consulting job with a local town government to revitalize parts of that town?

How can this same individual be working for two government entities and also be on committees and organizations that want to increase the density of housing in certain areas and are stridently pro development aligned with builders and developers?

Are there any New York State Conflicts of Interest Laws being broken here?

[NoSSherlock]

How can a government official who works for a local town government and a a major contracting concern at the same time legislate and sponsor and enact law that has a direct potential to help his business and that of others on the town board?

How can this same individual with ties to local government become Head of the Local Chamber of Commerce and still hold on to positions of influence within town and county government?

How does this same individual who now works at a county job and at the same time get a paid consulting job with a local town government to revitalize parts of that town?

How can this same individual be working for two government entities and also be on committees and organizations that want to increase the density of housing in certain areas and are stridently pro development aligned with builders and developers?

Are there any New York State Conflicts of Interest Laws being broken here?

Dear Naive one. There would have to be ethical standards to begin with for them to decline. The name of the game in Suffolk County is you can do whatever you want if you are politically connected. Even if you are caught and called to task for it and are sued because of your illegal official actions whats the big deal. After all the dopey taxpayers will pay for their defense and indemnification. The money isn't coming out of their pockets so they have nothing to lose.

[My Dear Watson]

If government truly wanted to clean up it's act they could.

But that would mean less money from special interests.

All the government has to do is make some of those civil laws made into criminal law.

How many times do local government officials do things in their interest only because the penalities are almost non existant if they do.

[good case in point]

Dick Thury's relationship with Frank Petrone and Steve Israel

A classic case of a political leader bought out by other political leaders to the detriment of the towns citizens. :twisted:

[attention attornies]

whats the legal definition of a quid pro quo :?:

[Judicial appointments]

Dont attorneys feed at the trough on the tit of referees, guardian ad litem, and all the other political appointments? I think so.

[Guest100]

Assuming the post about the conflicts are true......then where is our hard charging DA? Maybe he is already on the case....if there is a case. I will give him the benefit of the doubt. I do have to remind you or bring up a matter that may shed some light on how the DA operates.

Remember back to the indictment of former Sherrif Mahoney ( was that his name) Memory serves me right the Sherrif and Undersherrif take a collar by then DA Catterson. Spota, in the campaign actually makes an issue of it. He says the guy's indictment was an over indictment. I have no opinion on that.

Now the current DA wins the election and the first thing he does is fire 5 employees of Catterson's regime because he thought they had a large hand in the investigation. The Sherrif was said to be a long time friend of Spota. I guess you are not corrupt if you are his friend and you can be if you are not.

Could it be the un named town official is a friend of the DA?

[DA's Office Says]

"They only deal with criminal laws being broken not civil laws".

Yet when the New York State Laws of Conflicts of Interest were made more stringent in 1987, it was to combat the growing problem of corruption in government throughout the state.

I guess these laws were allowed to be disgarded on Long Island.
One of the reasons why is that the state allows for the municipality, town, village etc to be the ones to enforce the laws through their own ethics committee or board.

If you live in a town that didn't have an ethics board or you have a ethics board filled with political patronnage don't expect anything honest to come out of it. If politicians and government truly wanted to rid corruption they could have made some of these laws criminal and not civil.

[ve ri tas]

Ladies and gentleman,


her comes the judge here comes the judge, the federal judge that is. any one notice the "activism" on the part of the recent rulings by the federal judges in C.I. In one recent case a federal judge promoted a female sgt. to detective I believe her name was Collins.
In this backwater county all levels are compromised and the federal courts will now fix the problem. In the mean time remember to www. dumpmcgowan .com, cause the crooks are not going to fix themselves

[Big Fisherman]

If Tom Spota is billed by Newsday and party leaders like Rich Schaffer as a corruption figher, then how come he hasn't really cleaned anything up? I think Dave Wilmott from Suffolk Life got it right when he laid bare Spota's "so called" corruption fighter image. How come Spota is running unopposed? Are all the Republicans that afraid of him? Or has a deal been made with bosses from both parties in exchange for Spota leaving them alone? Say, somebody like Pete McGowan who himself nor any of his Islip cronies never get indicted and in exchange McGowan uses his considerable influence to cross endorse Spota? I hear McGowan is really the guy who runs the county Republican committee and that he works hand in glove with Rich Schaffer. I know there was a purge in the D.A.s office when Spota won. bill Ferris and Eileen Powers were dumped in addition to others. I heard it was because they backed Catterson and therefore to the victor belongs the spoils. I have met some of Spota's loyalists in the D.A.s office and they are pretty ethically challenged if you ask me. They are like mobsters. Could it be that in getting rid of Catterson the county got someone ten times worse? I don't think a A-Bomb could clean up Suffolk County. It is worse than that New Jersey county that Tony Soprano does business in and has all the politicians in his pocket. If the public only knew. Maybe, ignorance is bliss.

[ve ri tas]

Big fisherman, wilmont did "nail it" and it's obvious you have a hit on your line to so to speak. Schaeffer and mcgowan are running the political equivelant of the mafia. schaeffer will not allow spota to touch mcgowan they are as thick as thieves. In return he runs unopposed. remember to www.dumpmcgowan.com

[GUEST100]

The traditional way corruption is affected is for the corrupt to take money. But corruption has many other forms as well. It includes a thirst for power. The problem is that payoff isn't in the Penal Code.

There is another belief that when the reformers take over the reformer becomes worse that the person they replaced.

If the above is true then Tom Spota is guilty on both counts.

The guy campaigned on Catterson misusing the grand jury and over indicting his friend former County Sheriff Mahoney. I guess only his enemies can be corrupt but not his friends. This may also be true if one looks at his staff around him.

He comes in office and the first thing he does is fire those who worked on the Mahoney case. I can tell you one of those people he fired was one of the most honorable people I knew and worked for. And I don't throw out those words loosely.

He misuses and abuses the grand jury to exact his idea of justice. He has spent a king's ransom on two cases alone that are nothing more than misdeamnors. One case started as multiple felonies and all that remains is two BS misdeamnors. Could it be that Spota over indicted.

When all his efforts failed to dig up dirt on the above he went to the uy's friend and threatened to indict him if he didn't give them information. After the guy refused because he knew nothing he was himself indicted on various charges. I can make this more specific but it isn't my place to do so at this time.

[kchh]

They are all crooks. From local to feds . They just start their training in local government like suffolk or Islip.

They are all crooks. From local to feds . They just start their training in local government like suffolk or Islip.

are they talking about the head of the Huntington Conservative party Dick Thury---it sure sounds like this thread was made for him and his democrat puppeteers :oops:

[BAD DA]

It is not my place to talk at this time and cite particular examples of abuse of power and downright criminality on the part of the DA. The man has to be checked. He is drunk with power.

He has and continues to indimidate those he wants to give testimony the way he wants to hear it. What he is doing is worse than a cop beating a suspect with a rubber hose and getting a confession. What would be the point if you couldn't be sure you got the truth or the suspect could no longer bear the pain. He does the same with the mind. I am totally convinced he is not so much concerned with the truth but with any information that will get him to what his sense of justice is. I have never seen anything like this in my long experience in law enforcement and with DA's of other jurisdictions.

They are all crooks. From local to feds . They just start their training in local government like suffolk or Islip.

are they talking about the head of the Huntington Conservative party Dick Thury---it sure sounds like this thread was made for him and his democrat puppeteers :oops:



LOOK AT BOE DONOR LIST FOR POLITICIANS

IT'S DOWNRIGHT SCARY ALL THE LAWYERS AND BUILDERS DEVELOPERS AND ANYONE IN HOUSING INDUSTRY THAT DONATE FOR DEMOCRATS :twisted:

crap[

[no justice]

landlords all over Suffolk County

they reap millions $$$$ from renting out houses for just attics and cellars and rooms
they pay no taxes as they bring in thousands $$$$ per month

I know many who have done this for 20 years or more

but here's a guy who can't pay his taxes cause he and his wife live on social security and he's in his 70's his house is all paid up---he owns it outright

so the DEMOCRATS AFTER 7 YEARS DECIDE HE MUST LOSE HIS HOME BECAUSE IT'S THE LAW BUT DID THEY EVER TRY TO NEGOTIATE AN INSTALLMENT PLAN TO HAVE HIM PAY OFF THE TAXES OR DID THEY NOT CARE ABOUT THE MAN'S PREDICAMENT UNTIL IT WAS TO LATE ?

AND ONCE THE SON FOUND OUT ABOUT IT HE WAS WILLING TO SAVE HIS PARENTS HOME BY PAYING THE FULL AMOUNT OF THE BACK TAXES BUT THE COUNTY DEMOCRAT ADMINISTRATION SAYS THAT CAN'T BE DONE :twisted: :twisted: :twisted:

landlords all over Suffolk County

they reap millions $$$$ from renting out houses for just attics and cellars and rooms
they pay no taxes as they bring in thousands $$$$ per month

I know many who have done this for 20 years or more

but here's a guy who can't pay his taxes cause he and his wife live on social security and he's in his 70's his house is all paid up---he owns it outright

so the DEMOCRATS AFTER 7 YEARS DECIDE HE MUST LOSE HIS HOME BECAUSE IT'S THE LAW BUT DID THEY EVER TRY TO NEGOTIATE AN INSTALLMENT PLAN TO HAVE HIM PAY OFF THE TAXES OR DID THEY NOT CARE ABOUT THE MAN'S PREDICAMENT UNTIL IT WAS TO LATE ?

AND ONCE THE SON FOUND OUT ABOUT IT HE WAS WILLING TO SAVE HIS PARENTS HOME BY PAYING THE FULL AMOUNT OF THE BACK TAXES BUT THE COUNTY DEMOCRAT ADMINISTRATION SAYS THAT CAN'T BE DONE :twisted: :twisted: :twisted:

Sweet Lou's wife Malafi/D'Amaro cries out her
MEA CULPA in Newsday

[word is out]

keep quiet :?