View Full Version : NORTH BABYLON TRUCKS COLLIDE
NB SchoolBoard Mbr
05-02-2005, 11:56 AM
I would like to start this thread in a positive manner. The North Babylon Fire Department had two truck collide on April 30, 2005.
Thank God no one was injured.
But what lessons can we learn from this.
PLEASE BE POSITIVE ON THIS SUBJECT!!!
I agree Thank god no one was seriously injured.
The lesson is to look at the SOPs or Standard Operating Procedures
The alarm they were responding to was a MVA, too much equipment may have been on the road and that simply increases the exposure and liability. I cannot say for certain this was the case. Second lesson is to be cautious at every intersection regardless of who has the right of way! The community should take notice of the risks that all firemen face everytime the alarm sounds. I wish my brother Firefighters of North Babylon well and hope they are back to what they do best soon!
tell it right
05-02-2005, 03:17 PM
I do believe you should do your research. at least 12 fire fighters were transported with various injuries
SCFFF
05-02-2005, 03:32 PM
Anywhere to get the facts of this story? Anything on the web or anyone who was actually there? I don't want to hear the Monday Quarterback version.
All got discharged, it was either 11 or 12 transported, I heard both nbrs. lucky all ended up being minor, bumps, bruises, stitches, staples. all can say in the end they walked away. Both trucks are now totalled. also heard different versions of story, brakes locked up, going to fast unable to stop, hit brakes they gave out, ignored the red light. It is a bad intersection to begin with don't need any extra help to have a bad one there. I agree they had too many pcs of apparatus on the road for this type of call. dont need all that. new policy might need to be looked at to avoid this in the future in NB and others.
I think big thanks should be given to the depts who came out to help in the pouring rain: Deer Park, West Babylon, Bablyon Village, West Islip and North Babylon it self.
Glad to hear all are home, a little sore i think but home in one pc.
peace everyone.
a fellow fighter. :D :D :D
ConcernedFD
05-03-2005, 09:00 AM
First I'd like to wish a speedy recovery to all those involved.
This incident should be used positivley as a wake up call to us all, vollie or paid, we should all remember the danger begins the time the alarm sounds not just when we arrive on scene. I don't want to speculate on the reason or cause of the crash let's just all be more aware and carefull to get there safe and in one piece. And I truly hope that the liberal toilet paper sorry I meant Newsday doesn't spin this into an anti-vollie BS Story.
Stay safe all
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SCFFF
05-03-2005, 10:20 AM
You can see pics here: http://www.1strespondernews.com/webpages/news/DisplayNews.aspx?PT=state&state=LI&ID=3ef4c69b-cd1c-4715-9793-ed3e79e29501 Glad to see this post has not turned for the worst and everyone is be an adult about the discussion.
moderator1000
05-03-2005, 11:57 AM
Learn from other peoples mistakes...
Opticom ??
05-03-2005, 01:09 PM
Learn from other peoples mistakes...
Did Opticom have anything to do with ???
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In my dept. for most all MVA's one engine, one rescue, one ambulance, one fire police. If the first officer on scene sizes up that we need less, he will slow down the response and limit it to whats needed. If he determines more is needed thats what he'll call back to HQ. The officer in the front seat needs to be listening to the radio and know what routes the other pieces of apparatus that are on the radio usually take. Opticom or not we should all be coming to a stop at the red lights and proceed with caution, especially on a rain slick roadway. If your light gets tripped by the opticom system you should still watch out for those on the road who are not looking out. I do wish those involved a quick and speedy recovery, and to the familiesof those firfighters, my thoughts and prayers go out to you. Lord knows what you were going through when you saw the chiefs car pull up in front of the house
emschickie
05-04-2005, 01:12 PM
First the NB crash, now the Riverhead crash.... my hearts go out to everyone who got hurt in NB crash and Thank God noone got killed. No matter how it happened or why it happened, it really makes you realize that it can all be over at any time. God Bless & be safe out there....
Sandman
05-09-2005, 07:32 PM
Common sense tells us that the less apparatus on the road, the less likely chance of an accident.
We spend a lot of money on chief vehicles, radios and cell phones.
Let's limit the response to these scenes. If the first arriving OIC needs more help, he can call for it.
Some departments even zone out their areas so only a portion of their fireman are activated. This cuts down on firemen responding in their own vehicles. I walk to my firehouse and I have to watch out for out-of-control firemen responding to calls.
STOP THE NONSENSE!
Lyman
05-21-2005, 12:09 PM
Are they going to replace the engines or repair them?
SouthsideEMT
06-08-2005, 06:32 AM
The insurance company will replace both of the vehicles I am sure. But what about the two MVO's Brains? I think not. Due Regard? Not a chance!! I have heard from a few north bab people that the trucks race each other to calls, Where are your chiefs?? well the problem starts with them because they didnt stop it. I have heard that the trucks have stickers on the back that say "If you can read this your not first due" Anyway a few of my friends ride at North Babylon and i just want to say one more thing. PLEASE do not get on the truck with a Driver that puts your life in danger. If that truck flew through the intersection and hit a car the driver of the truck would be in jail for murder THINK ABOUT IT
reply to you
06-13-2005, 03:10 AM
I thought about it.... you would be better off worrying about how to apply a band aid instead of trying to be a lawyer...murder yeah right
Buying all new trucks now. They should buy an AMT to respond to calls. Maybe then they dprovide good pt. care
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