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Steve Levy
05-01-2005, 08:18 PM
hes doing great.

RUKidding12
05-01-2005, 09:29 PM
hes doing great.

He has replaced a bunch of dirt bags in the Police Dept. with an even bigger bunch of dirt bags. He has kept an all time high level of big bosses yet patrol is at an unsafe level. If he has had a hard on for the PD he should take it out on the bosses above the rank of LT. since they are the ones that have wrinkled his azz when he was a County Legislator and a frequenter of park and porks. Yet he doesn't, he takes it out on the PBA. What misplaced agression that is. How about his becoming neutered by his alleged racist comments on "the tapes". Now in response the NAAC

05-01-2005, 09:30 PM
[quote=Steve Levy]hes doing great.

He has replaced a bunch of dirt bags in the Police Dept. with an even bigger bunch of dirt bags. He has kept an all time high level of big bosses yet patrol is at an unsafe level. If he has had a hard on for the PD he should take it out on the bosses above the rank of LT. since they are the ones that have wrinkled his azz when he was a County Legislator and a frequenter of park and porks. Yet he doesn't, he takes it out on the PBA. What misplaced agression that is. How about his becoming neutered by his alleged racist comments on "the tapes". Now in response the NAACP has him by the balls and he is putting some really sorry candidates into some critical positions as repentance for his tape recorded sins.

Double DD
05-01-2005, 10:56 PM
I must have missed something, what comments were made?

Murray Head
05-01-2005, 11:57 PM
A- all the way for Sir Stevie.

Grading
05-02-2005, 10:41 PM
B+ is fine for Steve at this time. who knows next yr?

05-03-2005, 02:49 PM
c- Pretty much the same as the other poster, lots of headlines, few results, I dont know if he is actually trying innovative ideas, or desperate knowing he can't do the job, another year of this, f.

Levy Yes
05-03-2005, 11:18 PM
Its working in SUffolk. Beats having Gaffe-knee.

Happy Taxpayer
05-04-2005, 12:57 AM
Levy's grade should mirror what the bond raters recently gave his management style an A+.

To the poster who said that crime is up and taxes are up, I have to ask where you make up these facts. While your school taxes might have gone up Levy's so cheap he kept the county budget under control.

It was amazing that he was able to give a small general fund tax cut when he inherited such a mess from the previous administration. While you keep whining about his taking on the police union his gutsy moves not only brought in the police budget lower than anything Gaffney ever had but crime was also being reduced by 10%. This year crime is continuing to go down by over 4% from last year's low base.

Gaffney nearly killed the open space program, Levy has it cranked up again. We have had more immigrants criminals deported in one year of Levy than under 12 years of Gaffney's head in the sand policies.

Give the guy credit he has got guts. I knew I liked this guy when I heard the protesting workers outside his building were chanting "Stingy Steve". A lot of these guys talk a good game of being fiscal conservatives but spend like drunken sailors.

Levy not only talks the talk but walks the walk. A+++

film
05-04-2005, 02:26 AM
buy stock in film with all the pictures levy gets taken i dont understand how he gets his work done. he sounds like a duck :oops:

05-04-2005, 04:35 AM
Levy's grade should mirror what the bond raters recently gave his management style an A+.

To the poster who said that crime is up and taxes are up, I have to ask where you make up these facts. While your school taxes might have gone up Levy's so cheap he kept the county budget under control.

It was amazing that he was able to give a small general fund tax cut when he inherited such a mess from the previous administration. While you keep whining about his taking on the police union his gutsy moves not only brought in the police budget lower than anything Gaffney ever had but crime was also being reduced by 10%. This year crime is continuing to go down by over 4% from last year's low base.

Gaffney nearly killed the open space program, Levy has it cranked up again. We have had more immigrants criminals deported in one year of Levy than under 12 years of Gaffney's head in the sand policies.

Give the guy credit he has got guts. I knew I liked this guy when I heard the protesting workers outside his building were chanting "Stingy Steve". A lot of these guys talk a good game of being fiscal conservatives but spend like drunken sailors.

Levy not only talks the talk but walks the walk. A+++
If you remember the fiasco when he tried to cut police in Huntington, had a large increase inn crime and actually had th put 2 extra cars back on service. How about fighting the illegals? zilch. The FEDS deported the illegals, as always, county and state never deported a criminal. Cant credit him. His lame attempt fell short. Police? He stated he would shut down the contract talks, no raise, they were guaranteed a raise before he even opened his mouth via binding arbitration. If crime is down its because less people are committing crimes, not because Levys in office. The police are ALWAYS under budget, the police do not have a dedicated budget, their money is put in the general tax till, and is always over estimated. Nothing new there.I too am waiting to hear something he actually accomplished, not tried to accomplish, or just happened.
d+

05-04-2005, 11:58 AM
c-
Smoke and mirrors. Lots of grand ideas, little change going down. Levy was well aware the county cops were already in binding arbitration as he was campaigning to be elected. But a huge amount of campaign promises and rhetoric was centered on controlling the scpd monster. When their moderate raise went thru, he pouted and pretended that he could have done something about it, not true.
Levy likes to make a big splash with some grand idea, that never works. He constantly fails to follow thru,most educated people can see the idea wont work.
If he didnt make these no-doubt publicity related goofs he might grade higher.

05-04-2005, 03:15 PM
Im not going to post a grade on our C.E. but he is a failure. He seems to take very outlandish measures to handle simple problems.
A simple solution to both scpd and illegals, take all cops working behind a desk, consolidate their jobs for every 10 supervisors, put 6 back on the street, make the rest do some work. Get rid of all office jobs for non supervisor p.o.s, except for maybe 1 per precinct, put them all into a unit that goes specifically after housing violations, (30 illegals per house), Unlicensed contractors, landscapers etc. Does safety checks on all commercial vehicles operating in residentail areas(landscapers, contractors). You are taking non-productive cops putting them back on the street going after the folks that dont pay taxes, illegal residents, contractors, landlords. Either the cops who are doing the secretary spread will retire, or do the job. Either the illegals will become legal, or move out. Either way, the county will profit, by fining, writing and arresting the heck out of these folks who are beating the system we all live by.
Thats a much more viable and feasible answer than ''deputizing cops and all that b.s.

kid salacious
05-04-2005, 05:01 PM
Im not going to post a grade on our C.E. but he is a failure. He seems to take very outlandish measures to handle simple problems.
A simple solution to both scpd and illegals, take all cops working behind a desk, consolidate their jobs for every 10 supervisors, put 6 back on the street, make the rest do some work. Get rid of all office jobs for non supervisor p.o.s, except for maybe 1 per precinct, put them all into a unit that goes specifically after housing violations, (30 illegals per house), Unlicensed contractors, landscapers etc. Does safety checks on all commercial vehicles operating in residentail areas(landscapers, contractors). You are taking non-productive cops putting them back on the street going after the folks that dont pay taxes, illegal residents, contractors, landlords. Either the cops who are doing the secretary spread will retire, or do the job. Either the illegals will become legal, or move out. Either way, the county will profit, by fining, writing and arresting the heck out of these folks who are beating the system we all live by.
Thats a much more viable and feasible answer than ''deputizing cops and all that b.s.
Too simple, never happen. Remember the higher ups in Levys regime's police dept. were appointed by him, they are his yes men, political tools. I think Levys purposely plans things that cannot be followed through on, thereby keeping the status quo, but appearing to be fighting for us.This way everyones is appeased, and nothing changes.
Another area that could be looked into is linking the renters to the taxes paid by the landlord, how many illegal apt dwellers kids go to school? They dont pay a dime towards our school taxes, and neither does the landlord. Go after all landlords not just illegals, this way there is no uproar of discrimination.
I have no problem grading Levy, c for the 1st year, d+ second. if status quo remains another year, f.

substandard
05-04-2005, 05:36 PM
Are we any better off with Levy than Gaffney? Romaine? I cant tell. We are worse off as far as taxes, police salary etc than when Gaffney was in, but that probably would have occurred either way. Levy promised to take care of business, and hasnt. Who is better off? The cops. Levy fell for Sherriff tisch's idea to increase the number of deptuties, to cut o/t and Levy granted him 50? more deputies, and their overtime was EVEN higher this fiscal year.
The difference between Levy and his opponents or predecessors was he was supposed to change things.
Things havent changed at all in Suffolk.I wont vote against Levy to force him out, but I would cross party lines if a viable experienced LEADER ran against him. Maybe it will take his whole term to change things, or maybe he will need 2 terms but right now, in my book, he will only be the County Exec. who cut police service in my mothers area, forcing her to wait almost 10 minutes for a 1st responder to show (suffolk p.o. who works nearly 10 miles from her home) when she had chest pain in the middle of the night.

05-04-2005, 06:01 PM
I must have missed something, what comments were made?
Derogatory remarks about minorities, nuff said

k.i.s.s.
05-04-2005, 09:24 PM
Theres actually a few good ideas here, shame the executive we pay cant try something almost the same.
keep it simple stupid. Enough with the flashy headlines stevie, time for some results.
As for the guy stating crime is down, that has nothing to do with cops or the county, it has to do with people committing crime.
Just like we cant blame them for the higher gas prices, its out of their control.

05-05-2005, 02:23 PM
Theres actually a few good ideas here, shame the executive we pay cant try something almost the same.
keep it simple stupid. Enough with the flashy headlines stevie, time for some results.
As for the guy stating crime is down, that has nothing to do with cops or the county, it has to do with people committing crime.
Just like we cant blame them for the higher gas prices, its out of their control.
that makes sense. saying crime is down because levy is the exec is silly, who is in charge has little to do with who decides to go out and committ a crime. as we've seen with the city there are many ways of interpreting crime, there is reported crimes, open cases, cleared crimes, you know if the powers that be decide they want less crime reported, take all criminal incidents that cannot be solved and downgrade them. A hit and run property damage only is entered into the system as a accident. A crim mischief to a mailbox is entered as a property damage only. A domestic harassment, exceptionally cleared by comp. refusing to cooperate is entered as a domestic dispute, verbal only.Then of course a felony is downgraded to a misdemeanor, misdemeanor to a violation, a burg becomes a crim tresspass, a crim trespass becomes a trespass.
Thats basic politics by any administration who wants to look ''tough on crime''

also taxpayer
05-05-2005, 06:52 PM
Steve Leavy isn't just picking on the police he is doing it to every department. People have left county service through retirements or to get a better paying job and he isn't replacing them the work force is beyond the breaking point. Our cost for just maintenance are going to sky rocket because he will have to use outside contractors to get the job done. It's called payback for all those who supported him during his election. We (county workforce) have to do the clean up for shoddy work from outsiders.

05-05-2005, 07:09 PM
Levy will go down in Suffolk as a legacy of failures, and extravagent unmanageable policies. He hasnt done squat, other than grab headlines.
Reading some of these posts with simple common sense, some of these average joes could answer the problems facing us, with some sort of results.
Horrible idea to shut down police cars, to save his budget money, and not attempt to refund it to the taxpayers involved. Then to admit with egg all over his face it wasnt working, and attempt to get postive publicity? Please, maybe his groupies would fall for it but anyone whos graduated Jr. High could see right through his ploy.
Its time to get a County exec who will answer the bell with common sense solutions, the goverment has overrun the taxpayers time to cut some jobs, not the street cop, not the garbage man, not the social worker, but some of the supervisors with their take home cars.

giveaway
05-05-2005, 07:20 PM
he is giving away the store a $1.00 for the airport do we care in western suffolk no :oops:

Fox Fan 2105
05-05-2005, 07:23 PM
Steve Levy is the the worst!! He makes these announcements with full press coverage and then walks away and does nothing!

How does he justify shutting down sector cars in Huntington? The population has contracted and we don't need the cops. Where did he get that info from? One need not look at any stats to see that this is false. Just look at all the new housing that has gone up along Pulaski Rd and by Big H. Levy and Dormer can't seriously be arguing that there aren't administration positions in the police dept that can't be cut before patrol. Steve's new campain moto " All the taxes for 1/3 less service"
He gets an F.

05-06-2005, 11:39 AM
Steve Levy is the the worst!! He makes these announcements with full press coverage and then walks away and does nothing!

How does he justify shutting down sector cars in Huntington? The population has contracted and we don't need the cops. Where did he get that info from? One need not look at any stats to see that this is false. Just look at all the new housing that has gone up along Pulaski Rd and by Big H. Levy and Dormer can't seriously be arguing that there aren't administration positions in the police dept that can't be cut before patrol. Steve's new campain moto " All the taxes for 1/3 less service"
He gets an F.The population shrunk based on the latest census. Which as most intelligent souls know, are voluntary, and rarely include the 2.9 million illegals of Huntington(that all live in the same house)

05-06-2005, 11:53 AM
Levy will go down in Suffolk as a legacy of failures, and extravagent unmanageable policies. He hasnt done squat, other than grab headlines.
Reading some of these posts with simple common sense, some of these average joes could answer the problems facing us, with some sort of results.
Horrible idea to shut down police cars, to save his budget money, and not attempt to refund it to the taxpayers involved. Then to admit with egg all over his face it wasnt working, and attempt to get postive publicity? Please, maybe his groupies would fall for it but anyone whos graduated Jr. High could see right through his ploy.
Its time to get a County exec who will answer the bell with common sense solutions, the goverment has overrun the taxpayers time to cut some jobs, not the street cop, not the garbage man, not the social worker, but some of the supervisors with their take home cars.
Good idea, instead of cutting our services, cut the yes men that hit the 200 $ a head functions with him.

truth in Suffolk
05-09-2005, 12:10 AM
It seems like the Levy bashers on this site all have a PBA Card. I guess there are some hard feelings left over from when Steve opposed binding arbitration in Albany.

There was some misinformed soul posting the other day that blamed Levy for high police salaries. Levy never said he could single handedly reverse that trend since it is a product of arbitration. What Levy did say is he would fight to change that system, which he did. Levy was the only guy to have the guts to vote against it. HE cannot be blamed for the cowardice of other legislators.

Some of the other PBA postings have to get a grip on reality. They insist on saying that crime is up when it is indisputably down. Even if there is a critic for giving discretion to the local precinct commanders. That policy is why overtime and overall costs in the department were down.

Another poster said that Levy should be putting more guys on the street. That is exactly what he is doing.

Let's see:
He drops general funbd taxes, and you partisans say they go up.
He drops crime by a large margin, and you say it went up

He is the first guy to do stings on the illegal contractors and get the feds to start working with our local police to fight the immigration problem and you guys say its the same as the Gaffney administration.

He preserved more environmental parcels in 14 months than Gaffney did. He negotiated successfully to wack off $50 million off the jail that the Legislature touted.

While the Legislature was spending money like crazy trying to run the county into the ground Levy's management style got rave reviews from the bond rating agencies. THe partisans on this board are so frustrated that Levy is a success you just can't handle it.

Under Levy General Fund taxes have gone down, crime has gone down, and environmental preservation has gone up, so all you partisans can do is lie about it.

Chill out and admit that the guy honestly produces, the bond raters confirm it.

levy jerk
05-09-2005, 01:15 AM
The only thing he can do right is get his picture taken and taken credit. :oops:

05-09-2005, 09:12 AM
It seems like the Levy bashers on this site all have a PBA Card. I guess there are some hard feelings left over from when Steve opposed binding arbitration in Albany.

There was some misinformed soul posting the other day that blamed Levy for high police salaries. Levy never said he could single handedly reverse that trend since it is a product of arbitration. What Levy did say is he would fight to change that system, which he did. Levy was the only guy to have the guts to vote against it. HE cannot be blamed for the cowardice of other legislators.

Some of the other PBA postings have to get a grip on reality. They insist on saying that crime is up when it is indisputably down. Even if there is a critic for giving discretion to the local precinct commanders. That policy is why overtime and overall costs in the department were down.

Another poster said that Levy should be putting more guys on the street. That is exactly what he is doing.

Let's see:
He drops general funbd taxes, and you partisans say they go up.
He drops crime by a large margin, and you say it went up

He is the first guy to do stings on the illegal contractors and get the feds to start working with our local police to fight the immigration problem and you guys say its the same as the Gaffney administration.

He preserved more environmental parcels in 14 months than Gaffney did. He negotiated successfully to wack off $50 million off the jail that the Legislature touted.

While the Legislature was spending money like crazy trying to run the county into the ground Levy's management style got rave reviews from the bond rating agencies. THe partisans on this board are so frustrated that Levy is a success you just can't handle it.

Under Levy General Fund taxes have gone down, crime has gone down, and environmental preservation has gone up, so all you partisans can do is lie about it.

Chill out and admit that the guy honestly produces, the bond raters confirm it.Levy didnt do anything with the cops, its all smoke and mirrors.
If crime is down, what does that have to do w/C.E. of suffolk? Because he is in office less crimes occur? Dont work that way.
Levy made big promises about cops salary, they were already in binding arbitration. Then of course he whined that he never had the chance to fight the contract(Gaffney did the same game every 4 years). While the manpower overtime hours are down by 30% the unscheduled overtime is up by nearly 60%, again its not the facts, its how you present them. Levy increased ''men on the street'' by taking officer cops and putting them as a partner to a cop who normally rides solo. If it was a dicey call, the office cop never left the car.
I also dispute all the anti-levy posts were from cops, many of them are critical of the salaries they make and feel levy disillusioned them but making empty promises about managing the ''scpd monster''
The feds blow thru town once every few months, it was a random event, had nothing to do with Levys request for them to set up a office out here.(which they still havent) The illegals arrested were becuase of outstanding warrants, drug charges etc, the last time they came through they arrested around 20 fugitives, but Levy wasnt playing the ''tough on illegals" theme so no camera crews were dispatched.
General taxes may have gone down but our police taxes went up, there is no seperate budget for their dept, those taxes go directly into the general fund, kind of like levys playing the shell game with our taxes. Additionally our school taxes have all gone up,lipa is raising its surcharge, etc.
The bond rating has nothing to do with the C.E. of suffolk, its all about the quality of suffolk's economy, long before stevie took office suffolk's businesses were booming, thats why the housing industry is off the chart,thats why the cops out here make over 100k. The bond rating was high when stevie took office and will be high whenhes out.

05-09-2005, 09:46 AM
I find it interesting that truth in suffolk believes crime is down, as a scpd supervisor, I remember receiving a certain memo, that in cases of reported crimes, ones that involve no acts of violence, that have no apparent suspects or witnesses(which are close to 60%) that after 1 month(30 days) they are to be reclassified as non criminal events when possible. If not possible, in the case of a theft for example it is to be downgraded from say a grand larceny to a petit larceny from a felony to a misdemeanor. There is no issue with this as lets say in a few months there is a lead, the case can be reclassified again.
This is a typical ploy of a political hack like Dormer attempting to twist statistics to benefit his regime, nothing new, but for the ignorant few who believe what they read, just a quick heads up.

Also Taxpayer
05-09-2005, 08:28 PM
I guess "truth in Suffolk" doesn't get out much if he/she did they would notice doing more with less doesn't work on any level.

What happens when all those extra police on the street don't have cars because no new mechanic's have been hired to maintain the fleet.

A blizzard hits or even roadside grass/garbage becomes a problem the DPW maintenance staff is at an all time low because no new staff has been hired to replace thoise whop left.

The toilets in the Dennison building don't work because the Building maintenance staff is at an all time low because no new staff has been hired to replace those who left.

I could go through each and every Department and show the same problems.

Steve better wake up and smell the coffee we need those positions NOW they are not top level management positions they are workerbee's YOU KNOW the ONE"S WHO DO the JOB.
For all the County Services we receive for an average of $650 per household we get a lot of bang for the buck. When you reduce staff and contract out it equals a TAX INCREASE. Rember Halpin!!!

ve ri tas
05-09-2005, 08:45 PM
he looks honest and he looks like he is trying his best against a maelstrom of malcontents, and malefesors. we continue to watch as richie schaeffer's 2nd choice, only proves that dumb luck counts as much as the other kind!!!!!! He is an honest civil servant.

status-quo
05-09-2005, 09:17 PM
he looks honest and he looks like he is trying his best against a maelstrom of malcontents, and malefesors. we continue to watch as richie schaeffer's 2nd choice, only proves that dumb luck counts as much as the other kind!!!!!! He is an honest civil servant.
Right, and as long as he LOOKS like he is trying and cant overcome the plague of malcontents and malefeasors the general public will overlook the many buddies and cronies appointed to prior not need administrative jobs, the shell games with jobs, cars, budgets etc the fact that while he appears to be tough on crime yada yada, he hasnt done anything. His extreme solutions to simple problems do not work (perhaps intentionally) therefore everything remains the same.

KCHH
05-10-2005, 01:28 AM
He's using the one thing others pol's forgot they have, its called common sense.

05-10-2005, 07:10 AM
He's using the one thing others pol's forgot they have, its called common sense.Is that what you call it? I thought it was called mugging for the camera

other side of coin
05-10-2005, 07:15 AM
Levy will go down in Suffolk as a legacy of failures, and extravagent unmanageable policies. He hasnt done squat, other than grab headlines.
Reading some of these posts with simple common sense, some of these average joes could answer the problems facing us, with some sort of results.
Horrible idea to shut down police cars, to save his budget money, and not attempt to refund it to the taxpayers involved. Then to admit with egg all over his face it wasnt working, and attempt to get postive publicity? Please, maybe his groupies would fall for it but anyone whos graduated Jr. High could see right through his ploy.
Its time to get a County exec who will answer the bell with common sense solutions, the goverment has overrun the taxpayers time to cut some jobs, not the street cop, not the garbage man, not the social worker, but some of the supervisors with their take home cars. Funny how varied two peoples idea of common sense are;He's using the one thing others pol's forgot they have, its called common sense

mill down
05-10-2005, 08:56 AM
Are we any better off with Levy than Gaffney? Romaine? I cant tell. We are worse off as far as taxes, police salary etc than when Gaffney was in, but that probably would have occurred either way. Levy promised to take care of business, and hasnt. Who is better off? The cops. Levy fell for Sherriff tisch's idea to increase the number of deptuties, to cut o/t and Levy granted him 50? more deputies, and their overtime was EVEN higher this fiscal year.
The difference between Levy and his opponents or predecessors was he was supposed to change things.
Things havent changed at all in Suffolk.I wont vote against Levy to force him out, but I would cross party lines if a viable experienced LEADER ran against him. Maybe it will take his whole term to change things, or maybe he will need 2 terms but right now, in my book, he will only be the County Exec. who cut police service in my mothers area, forcing her to wait almost 10 minutes for a 1st responder to show (suffolk p.o. who works nearly 10 miles from her home) when she had chest pain in the middle of the night.
I agree we live in Huntington, we have teenagers in High school. We work hard pay our taxes, which are pretty considerable, as I'm sure most Suffolk county dwellers are.
Levy hasnt addressed the gang issue at all. The scpd gang unit is a joke, wear a red shirt baggy pants and a bandanna and you'll be stopped searched 100xs. Thats all they do bust kids with pot, not that they shouldnt, but thats not fighting the gangs.
The illegal situation is out of control. Several posters ahve addressed the issue here with viable policies, go after landlords, contractors, do safety checks on landscaping vehicles,and so forth.
As a level headed person, reading the deputizing county cops policy, I knew it was a dead end. There isnt enough resources available to fill that role.
I cannot claim to have had a emergency situation during levy's experimental program with the overnight patrols, but it did cause me some concern. I will not forget the risk this program put my family at come election time. And I can assure you neither can most of my community.

05-11-2005, 12:11 AM
I expected so much more, oh well serves me right as Pt Barnum said" theres a sucker born every minute''

05-11-2005, 12:39 PM
Levy sucks. My neighbor is a suffolk cop, hes been on 3 or so years makes 48 bucks a hour and has over 345 hours of overtime.
More than he had last year( ''only'' 220) at this time. This guy says all the scpd laughs at levy says hes shooting blanks, levy had no real intent of changing anything, just wanted to look like he was trying.
He, levy, hasnt done squat, hasnt changed anything. taxes are going up, the county is out of whack. I work in farmingville, and I can tell you there are more day laborers than ever, nothing has changed. Even my neighbor cop said, a simple solution would be stop all the north carolina cars, check the license and registration, impound the m.v.s that have been in ny over 1 month, and arrest all unlicensed drivers, get them into the system.

05-11-2005, 01:34 PM
thats was my last posts seems the powers that be do not want me to state that stevie s u c k s . it was edited out. watch i will write it again and it becomes all ds; levy sucks. but if you put a space between each letter s u c k s it is ok, how about levy blows? b l o w s.

politics as usual.
05-11-2005, 03:00 PM
I cant seem to find a discernable difference between him and his predecessors,he isnt the worst but he certainly hasnt lived up to expectations, I cant say I'd vote against him next time but I'd certainly listen to any other candidates.

05-11-2005, 04:16 PM
I cant seem to find a discernable difference between him and his predecessors,he isnt the worst but he certainly hasnt lived up to expectations, I cant say I'd vote against him next time but I'd certainly listen to any other candidates.
Right he was supposed to turn things around.

down grade
05-11-2005, 07:07 PM
So much potential, so little accomplished, a even C,
ps Gaffney was a C+ in my book

Union Made
05-12-2005, 10:50 AM
Steve has done an amazing job to date. Highest bond rating ever!!!

05-12-2005, 12:01 PM
Steve has done an amazing job to date. Highest bond rating ever!!!
Stevie has nothing to do with the bond moron, suffolk always has had a good bond rating, he just happens to be in office while real estate is at a hi, while unemployment is fairly low, etc. He hasnt initiated or changed anything to jump start the economy. Lets see if gas prices hit 4 bucks a gallon, mortgage rates go up to 10%, the LI Ducks strike, a fire destroys all the bread and breakfast and restaurants in the Hamptons, Symbol folds etc etc, where SUFFOLKS bond rating is. He is just riding the crest.

05-12-2005, 02:46 PM
Steve has done an amazing job to date. Highest bond rating ever!!!
I see a trend, highest police salary ever, highest school taxes ever highest lipa bills ever, highest gas prices ever, highest illegal immigrants hanging out at designated '' come here and work off the books and evade taxes area'' ever, highest cereal prices, milk prices ever, highest taffic jams ever, highest number of people under the age of 40 leaving suffolk because they cannot afford the taxes, cost of housing, electricity etc, ever.Highest number of policticians and school officials getting caught on the take ever, highest number of police officials making over 100-k that never see what the outside of their office looks like, highest number of police retiring or being promoted from the rank of patrol and not being replaced ever, highest prices for a shack in a below average neighborhood ever.....

half full
05-12-2005, 03:31 PM
I'm really shocked, I figured he would rate higher than this, very negative, Our CE is fighting a uphill battle, against the system, maybe things havent changed, yet, but he needs time. Wait and see, things will get better

half in the bag
05-13-2005, 12:00 PM
Put a fork in levy hes done.

stevies is good
05-13-2005, 12:59 PM
Steve has done an amazing job to date. Highest bond rating ever!!!
I see a trend, highest police salary ever, highest school taxes ever highest lipa bills ever, highest gas prices ever, highest illegal immigrants hanging out at designated '' come here and work off the books and evade taxes area'' ever, highest cereal prices, milk prices ever, highest taffic jams ever, highest number of people under the age of 40 leaving suffolk because they cannot afford the taxes, cost of housing, electricity etc, ever.Highest number of policticians and school officials getting caught on the take ever, highest number of police officials making over 100-k that never see what the outside of their office looks like, highest number of police retiring or being promoted from the rank of patrol and not being replaced ever, highest prices for a shack in a below average neighborhood ever.....
All of that would have happened anyway, Levy cannot control those things, many of which are based on the State, country, or even foreign countries.

exactamundo
05-13-2005, 01:55 PM
Steve has done an amazing job to date. Highest bond rating ever!!!
I see a trend, highest police salary ever, highest school taxes ever highest lipa bills ever, highest gas prices ever, highest illegal immigrants hanging out at designated '' come here and work off the books and evade taxes area'' ever, highest cereal prices, milk prices ever, highest taffic jams ever, highest number of people under the age of 40 leaving suffolk because they cannot afford the taxes, cost of housing, electricity etc, ever.Highest number of policticians and school officials getting caught on the take ever, highest number of police officials making over 100-k that never see what the outside of their office looks like, highest number of police retiring or being promoted from the rank of patrol and not being replaced ever, highest prices for a shack in a below average neighborhood ever.....
All of that would have happened anyway, Levy cannot control those things, many of which are based on the State, country, or even foreign countries.
Just like the counties bond rating

05-13-2005, 02:02 PM
steve levy sucks

05-13-2005, 02:02 PM
su ck s

05-13-2005, 05:10 PM
su ck s
Thats the rumor, not that theres anything wrong with that, mind you

05-13-2005, 08:02 PM
How many other governors, mayors, village idiots in America lowered the rent for the local airbase despite the government not offering any clue to the base in question closing? What else is he going to give away at our expense?
Dont tell me it was a calculated risk, it was foolish, and sets a precedent for any and all large corporations, businesses, sports teams when dealing with suffolk.

05-13-2005, 09:46 PM
How many other governors, mayors, village idiots in America lowered the rent for the local airbase despite the government not offering any clue to the base in question closing? What else is he going to give away at our expense?
Dont tell me it was a calculated risk, it was foolish, and sets a precedent for any and all large corporations, businesses, sports teams when dealing with suffolk.
None, levy is the one and only town fool.

05-14-2005, 12:08 AM
How are YOU DOIN.

SC Deep Throat
05-14-2005, 01:04 AM
Half full,

You shouldn't be shocked as to the ratings your seeing on the postings. These posters tend to be disproportianately partisan and heavily concentrated in the police union fold.

Before the 2003 County Executive election a quick poll was taken on this site as to who would be voting for Levy and Romaine. Romaine out polled Levy by 70/30. Obviously, the posters had no relation to the attitudes to the public at large as Levy won by 10 percent. While these boards concentrate on negatives, Levy's poll numbers continue to be high. Some recent polls for some county legislative districts have him in the 60-70 percentile.

For the misinformed soul who said the County Executive has nothing to do with the bond rating. He should understand how wrong he is. In Nassau Gulotta had everything to do with the terrible bond rating.

The bond raters that increased Suffolk's rating specificly sited Levy's tight fisted management style for diging Suffolk out of a large projected deficit. Yet it is rarely mentioned that Levy was able to do something in a few short months that Gaffney couldn't do in twelve years.

He crafted the largest budget restructuring plan in county history, while the Republicans were increasing spending it was fiscally conservative Levy that was cutting the budget to the biggest extent ever.

How the other poster gave Gaffney a C+ when he proposed 11 out of 12 budgets with tax increases is beyond us. In one year Levy controlled spending, cut general fund taxes, and kept the police district budget within the cap laws for the first time in memory. Gaffney's police budgets were increasing by double digits. Levy brought it in at 4%, a real accomplishment!

You really can't ignore his tremendous gains on the environmental side. Real concrete efforts to revitalize the shellfishing industry and he has the open space and farmland preservation program operating incredibly efficently.

Airman
05-14-2005, 10:59 AM
Thank you for all your effort in saving the airbase in Westhampton. Lowering the rent to $1 was a great gesture and showed the county's commitment to the base.

THANK YOU FROM ALL THE MEMBERS OF THE 106th.

05-14-2005, 11:40 AM
Thank you for all your effort in saving the airbase in Westhampton. Lowering the rent to $1 was a great gesture and showed the county's commitment to the base.

THANK YOU FROM ALL THE MEMBERS OF THE 106th.
And Uncle Sam thanks you even more. Shame the Westhampton base was never even being thought about, dont worry I'm sure someone will volunteer their salary or additional taxes to make up the difference to the County. Illegals, teachers, cops, politicians....if not how about the taxpayers?

05-14-2005, 12:07 PM
Half full,

You shouldn't be shocked as to the ratings your seeing on the postings. These posters tend to be disproportianately partisan and heavily concentrated in the police union fold.

Before the 2003 County Executive election a quick poll was taken on this site as to who would be voting for Levy and Romaine. Romaine out polled Levy by 70/30. Obviously, the posters had no relation to the attitudes to the public at large as Levy won by 10 percent. While these boards concentrate on negatives, Levy's poll numbers continue to be high. Some recent polls for some county legislative districts have him in the 60-70 percentile.

For the misinformed soul who said the County Executive has nothing to do with the bond rating. He should understand how wrong he is. In Nassau Gulotta had everything to do with the terrible bond rating.

The bond raters that increased Suffolk's rating specificly sited Levy's tight fisted management style for diging Suffolk out of a large projected deficit. Yet it is rarely mentioned that Levy was able to do something in a few short months that Gaffney couldn't do in twelve years.

He crafted the largest budget restructuring plan in county history, while the Republicans were increasing spending it was fiscally conservative Levy that was cutting the budget to the biggest extent ever.

How the other poster gave Gaffney a C+ when he proposed 11 out of 12 budgets with tax increases is beyond us. In one year Levy controlled spending, cut general fund taxes, and kept the police district budget within the cap laws for the first time in memory. Gaffney's police budgets were increasing by double digits. Levy brought it in at 4%, a real accomplishment!

You really can't ignore his tremendous gains on the environmental side. Real concrete efforts to revitalize the shellfishing industry and he has the open space and farmland preservation program operating incredibly efficently. Whether or not Levy proposed budgets with tax increases, all our taxes have continued to climb. As previously stated if you lower the General county tax, but increase the Police tax, which goes into the general county tax, you've just increased taxes. That is why levy is so cocerned about the police ''budget'' which doesnt exist, the taxes collected for the police are always a surplus, and the remaining money goes right back into the general till. Additionally the past 2 classes were fully funded by the Federal government with grants from the 9/11 funds. Not 1 dime was spent from the taxpayers pocket for either class for the 1st year of their service.
Another interesting point you bring up, the ''projected deficit'' was numbers cooked up by Levy, when he presented his budget to the arbitrator for the police union,Levy stated the county was in a huge hole, no way could they afford any raise at all.The arbitration panel examined the budget and the deficit was fictious, there was a huge surplus of money, Levy's plan was to appear to have a deficit to undercut the pba, and to impress the general public with a ''huge turnaround'' within his first year. This is a well known ploy, Levy admitted to on several occasions.
The police ''budget'' may have been cut, in other words less money spent on the police, their equipment etc, but at the general publics expense. The admin shut down cars, used uncertified desk cops on the road, and refused to hire cops on O/t or sent them home early. Short sighted quick fix. In the meantime the administrative, sworn positions have increased by 1 ranking officer per precinct, 3 per command, and 2 per office and the admin. non police ranks have swelled. He has failed to replace patrol officers that have retired or been promoted, and hasnt hired a officer since entering office. All of this is leading to either a major shortage of actual working cops, or a huge increase in the budget when they are replaced.
Gullota beat Nassau into the ground, Suffolk has always had a high bond rating, Levy stepped into office with a excellent rating for suffolk, all he has to do is ride the wave.
Whats funny is you believe most persons here are suffolk cops, but if you read most posts, there are statements about police salariesand how levy has failed to shutdown the monster that is scpd.

05-14-2005, 12:33 PM
Half full,

You shouldn't be shocked as to the ratings your seeing on the postings. These posters tend to be disproportianately partisan and heavily concentrated in the police union fold.

Before the 2003 County Executive election a quick poll was taken on this site as to who would be voting for Levy and Romaine. Romaine out polled Levy by 70/30. Obviously, the posters had no relation to the attitudes to the public at large as Levy won by 10 percent. While these boards concentrate on negatives, Levy's poll numbers continue to be high. Some recent polls for some county legislative districts have him in the 60-70 percentile.


What is funny out of the 50ish posts on this thread, at least 18 out of the negative 35 mention specifically the raise given to scpd and levys ''promise'' to reign in the salaries. So unless cops are posting here against their own raises( I cant picture that) there are legit, disgruntled taxpayers who wont forget how levy failed to follow through and misled us as to how the east end donut raiders get their loot.
As far as budget cuts, I can testify to that. The general county services are substandard, their equipment seems like its falling apart in their hands. They patch the same pothole on the same county road every other week thru the winter, their trucks are a embarassment.

pennywise pound foolish
05-14-2005, 01:40 PM
Half full,

You shouldn't be shocked as to the ratings your seeing on the postings. These posters tend to be disproportianately partisan and heavily concentrated in the police union fold.

Before the 2003 County Executive election a quick poll was taken on this site as to who would be voting for Levy and Romaine. Romaine out polled Levy by 70/30. Obviously, the posters had no relation to the attitudes to the public at large as Levy won by 10 percent. While these boards concentrate on negatives, Levy's poll numbers continue to be high. Some recent polls for some county legislative districts have him in the 60-70 percentile.


What is funny out of the 50ish posts on this thread, at least 18 out of the negative 35 mention specifically the raise given to scpd and levys ''promise'' to reign in the salaries. So unless cops are posting here against their own raises( I cant picture that) there are legit, disgruntled taxpayers who wont forget how levy failed to follow through and misled us as to how the east end donut raiders get their loot.
As far as budget cuts, I can testify to that. The general county services are substandard, their equipment seems like its falling apart in their hands. They patch the same pothole on the same county road every other week thru the winter, their trucks are a embarassment.
Exactly the current goverment has decided to allow the County fleet, buildings and all its mechanical properties to fall into a state of disrepair, when a problem is discovered it isnt fixed, just bandaged up to last a few more weeks, until it is fixed again. This will lead to huge problems down the road, like when levy is out of office.

BORDERPATROL
05-15-2005, 12:32 PM
Stop your crying coppers. Steve has done a fantastic job here in Suffolk. Just because he tried an experiment in Huntington that didn't work doen't mean he is doing an overall GREAT JOB!

05-15-2005, 01:29 PM
Stop your crying coppers. Steve has done a fantastic job here in Suffolk. Just because he tried an experiment in Huntington that didn't work doen't mean he is doing an overall GREAT JOB!
Seems to me most posts here arent ''coppers'' most of us expected levy to shutdown the lotto machine that is scpd, he failed. he failed us. And you will notice most posts call him to task on that very issue. He has made very few actual changes in anything, Other than his enviromental program.
He needs to do something about illegals, for the 30-40 the FEDS picked up in the past 2 months, 5 have replaced each of them.He needs to shutdown the source.
He needs to address the taxes, school, police everything. The young families are leaving long island at a alarming rate. They will be replaced by the illegals and their offspring.
He needs to pick it up, we remember his promises, we will hold him to them.

easter-bunny
05-15-2005, 02:12 PM
Stop your crying coppers. Steve has done a fantastic job here in Suffolk. Just because he tried an experiment in Huntington that didn't work doen't mean he is doing an overall GREAT JOB!
Why is it any one who doesnt agree with Levy is a cop? Cant normal folks disagree with their elected leaders or find them lacking? Or is that just reserved for cops?
Whats funny is all the illegal alien activsts are very opposed to Levy because of his ill fated attempt to deputize the police. So you have cops who hate him because he's messing with their overtime, civilians who dont think he's doing the job, and even the illegal loving liberals against him.
You cant please everyone, but Mr. Levy has picked too many fights at this juncture, very few left in his camp.

BORDERPATROL
05-15-2005, 03:23 PM
Levy is one of the most popular elected officials in Suffolk County history.

results
05-15-2005, 03:28 PM
I just want results. If The c.e. pulls through on the various issues he's facing, he'll get my vote again, if not no.
Things he's got to address, school taxes, police salaries, illegals, rising fuel costs, rising electric costs, gangs, affordable housing, in no particular order.
I dont expect immediate change, just a inroad or two. I dont expect all the issues to be challenged this term, but in order to get a 2nd term he needs to start doing something.
I am seeing the light so to speak on some of the controversial policies Levy has attempted. Less time should be put into those, more time dealing with the issues at hand.

results
05-15-2005, 03:29 PM
Levy is one of the most popular elected officials in Suffolk County history.
There is a big difference between popular and effective, Paris Hilton is popular, but do you want her as c.e?

05-15-2005, 03:39 PM
Levy is one of the most popular elected officials in Suffolk County history.
There is a big difference between popular and effective, Paris Hilton is popular, but do you want her as c.e?
HMMMMMMMMMMMMm.... not a bad idea, seriously Levy is on the fence right now, hes got to do something, otherwise the next opponent can simply ask this question" Are you better off now than 4 years ago?" Right now its the same for most of my friends and neighbors, but I know many who would say things are worse.

tick tick
05-15-2005, 05:34 PM
Levy is one of the most popular elected officials in Suffolk County history.
There is a big difference between popular and effective, Paris Hilton is popular, but do you want her as c.e?
HMMMMMMMMMMMMm.... not a bad idea, seriously Levy is on the fence right now, hes got to do something, otherwise the next opponent can simply ask this question" Are you better off now than 4 years ago?" Right now its the same for most of my friends and neighbors, but I know many who would say things are worse.
Hes identified most of the problems, he GOT TO figure out how to solve them, fast!!!!!
Hes on the clock

A lot to be done
05-16-2005, 01:23 PM
I just want results. If The c.e. pulls through on the various issues he's facing, he'll get my vote again, if not no.
Things he's got to address, school taxes, police salaries, illegals, rising fuel costs, rising electric costs, gangs, affordable housing, in no particular order.
I dont expect immediate change, just a inroad or two. I dont expect all the issues to be challenged this term, but in order to get a 2nd term he needs to start doing something.
I am seeing the light so to speak on some of the controversial policies Levy has attempted. Less time should be put into those, more time dealing with the issues at hand.
How about alternative energy sources, or tax rebate for solar energies? How about stopping the spread of homes or limiting the amount of condos/apts being put up? I live in coram, where they are putting up townhouses/condos in every nook and cranny. How about 1 home per acre limitation? How about addressing the County roadways we are stuck on for hours on end traveling to and from work?
Right now Levy has done zero, he needs to pick it up.

05-16-2005, 03:06 PM
While we are discussing issues in Brookhaven, I'd like to see him at least address the issues of the boarding homes, sober homes, halfway houses, all full of parollees, indigents, mentally ill, child abusers, etc . There is no regulation of these homes and they are in residential communities.
At a minimum the mentally ill should not be stuck in these homes with felons.

Bond ratings and surplus
05-16-2005, 05:53 PM
Half full,

You shouldn't be shocked as to the ratings your seeing on the postings. These posters tend to be disproportianately partisan and heavily concentrated in the police union fold.

Before the 2003 County Executive election a quick poll was taken on this site as to who would be voting for Levy and Romaine. Romaine out polled Levy by 70/30. Obviously, the posters had no relation to the attitudes to the public at large as Levy won by 10 percent. While these boards concentrate on negatives, Levy's poll numbers continue to be high. Some recent polls for some county legislative districts have him in the 60-70 percentile.

For the misinformed soul who said the County Executive has nothing to do with the bond rating. He should understand how wrong he is. In Nassau Gulotta had everything to do with the terrible bond rating.

The bond raters that increased Suffolk's rating specificly sited Levy's tight fisted management style for diging Suffolk out of a large projected deficit. Yet it is rarely mentioned that Levy was able to do something in a few short months that Gaffney couldn't do in twelve years.

He crafted the largest budget restructuring plan in county history, while the Republicans were increasing spending it was fiscally conservative Levy that was cutting the budget to the biggest extent ever.

How the other poster gave Gaffney a C+ when he proposed 11 out of 12 budgets with tax increases is beyond us. In one year Levy controlled spending, cut general fund taxes, and kept the police district budget within the cap laws for the first time in memory. Gaffney's police budgets were increasing by double digits. Levy brought it in at 4%, a real accomplishment!

You really can't ignore his tremendous gains on the environmental side. Real concrete efforts to revitalize the shellfishing industry and he has the open space and farmland preservation program operating incredibly efficently.
The bond rating ''jumped from a to a+ or a2 to a1, or from a a+ to a ''stabilized a+ depending on which rating service you check with.The rating went from the 2nd highest rating since 1976 to the highest since 1976. That doesnt say much. Its not a situation where suffolk was headed down the tubes and the c.e. rescued it, it merely means when he enntered office he was able to maintain the high level of quality already existing. The main factor in the upgrade was the closing of the projected deficit for 2005. The deficit was projected by the current administration. It was a fact that the projected deficit was Levy's main argument for not increasing the pay raise in the current SCPD contract. After the 3 sides sat and compared notes, the projected deficit was found in fact to be a surplus, Levy had convienently left out several grants and funding that the Federal and State Government had given Suffolk County. Since this was Levy's only argument as to not giving the Police Dept any pay increase, the proposed pay raise went through. The plan backfired in that had Levy not stuck his nose in the mix, the proposed pay increase would have been around 10% over the course of the contract, but since the Pba lawyers had shown the arbitrator the actual excess in the budget, the pay raise ended up being about 16%.
So even back then the projected deficit, that enabled the County to be upgraded as far as their bond rating was found to be inaccurate, by mere Pba lawyers.
Before the accusations start, I'm not a officer or involved with the pba, I do have a significant other who works for the County in the legal dept. And this isnt a knock on the current administration, these tactics are quite common and have been used by most government leaders for years

I walk the tiers
05-16-2005, 07:26 PM
If everything is so good why can't we settle on a fair contract? Everything in this County is getting more expensive and we are w/o a contract for 2 years. Come on this is just wrong!!! Give us the raise we deserve. We work hard for the County and only ask to be compensated fairly. A correction officer with 4 kids working days can qualify for assistance from the County and State!! That is wrong!!!!!

uncle al
05-17-2005, 12:22 AM
uncle al gives you all o/t to supplement your salaries

BORDERPATROL
05-17-2005, 01:17 AM
Steve should do a sweep once a month with the feds. It will make Suffolk a less desirable place for them to come to.

barely a dent
05-17-2005, 03:57 AM
Steve should do a sweep once a month with the feds. It will make Suffolk a less desirable place for them to come to.
Feds come thru here quite often, they've done so for a while, dont be so dazzled by Levy to believe he has any direct influence on the feds doing their jobs, usually they wait until they have X# of subjects to round up, Its cost effective, less money to organize and travel, etc.
Although you never know, the amount of air time they'd be guaranteed with the photogenic County Leader might persuade them to come back more often.

off base a bit
05-17-2005, 04:26 AM
Steve should do a sweep once a month with the feds. It will make Suffolk a less desirable place for them to come to.
Yeah you are a little off my friend, the sweep is for wanted felons, not for the daylaborers that Mr Levy should be concentrating on. Mr. Levy can easily do the same sweep with the local cops that the feds do. That is how you know Mr. Levy is out of the loop when it comes to the arrests. Why wouldnt he have his vaunted gang units or narcotics teams doing the arrests? The answer is simple, they dont even have the Feds targets on their radar.
The sweeps occur when the Federal marshalls get a lead on someone who is wanted, whether its Long Island or Death Valley, they go get him. Its not really a wait until we have 40 suspects to get thing, since these guys tend to move around a bit,like the previous said, but its a Federal thing, nothing to do with Levy. The reality is if someone is wanted for a federal charge, the local law enforcement can sweep him up as easily as a fed. Only the feds can deport. Thats the only difference. Any person can arrest any other person(civilian or police arrest) if he is wanted, but only immigration officials can deport.
The only thing the prior post is correct about is the Mr. Levy is getting them plenty of positive publicity and photo ops, of course with his personal spin on the situation. As long as we know whats going on. Give the feds their credit, but remember they've been doing this long before it was a hot issue out here, and after it passes they will still be doing it.

Not off at all
05-17-2005, 04:34 AM
Half full,

You shouldn't be shocked as to the ratings your seeing on the postings. These posters tend to be disproportianately partisan and heavily concentrated in the police union fold.

Before the 2003 County Executive election a quick poll was taken on this site as to who would be voting for Levy and Romaine. Romaine out polled Levy by 70/30. Obviously, the posters had no relation to the attitudes to the public at large as Levy won by 10 percent. While these boards concentrate on negatives, Levy's poll numbers continue to be high. Some recent polls for some county legislative districts have him in the 60-70 percentile.

For the misinformed soul who said the County Executive has nothing to do with the bond rating. He should understand how wrong he is. In Nassau Gulotta had everything to do with the terrible bond rating.

The bond raters that increased Suffolk's rating specificly sited Levy's tight fisted management style for diging Suffolk out of a large projected deficit. Yet it is rarely mentioned that Levy was able to do something in a few short months that Gaffney couldn't do in twelve years.

He crafted the largest budget restructuring plan in county history, while the Republicans were increasing spending it was fiscally conservative Levy that was cutting the budget to the biggest extent ever.

How the other poster gave Gaffney a C+ when he proposed 11 out of 12 budgets with tax increases is beyond us. In one year Levy controlled spending, cut general fund taxes, and kept the police district budget within the cap laws for the first time in memory. Gaffney's police budgets were increasing by double digits. Levy brought it in at 4%, a real accomplishment!

You really can't ignore his tremendous gains on the environmental side. Real concrete efforts to revitalize the shellfishing industry and he has the open space and farmland preservation program operating incredibly efficently.
The bond rating ''jumped from a to a+ or a2 to a1, or from a a+ to a ''stabilized a+ depending on which rating service you check with.The rating went from the 2nd highest rating since 1976 to the highest since 1976. That doesnt say much. Its not a situation where suffolk was headed down the tubes and the c.e. rescued it, it merely means when he enntered office he was able to maintain the high level of quality already existing. The main factor in the upgrade was the closing of the projected deficit for 2005. The deficit was projected by the current administration. It was a fact that the projected deficit was Levy's main argument for not increasing the pay raise in the current SCPD contract. After the 3 sides sat and compared notes, the projected deficit was found in fact to be a surplus, Levy had convienently left out several grants and funding that the Federal and State Government had given Suffolk County. Since this was Levy's only argument as to not giving the Police Dept any pay increase, the proposed pay raise went through. The plan backfired in that had Levy not stuck his nose in the mix, the proposed pay increase would have been around 10% over the course of the contract, but since the Pba lawyers had shown the arbitrator the actual excess in the budget, the pay raise ended up being about 16%.
So even back then the projected deficit, that enabled the County to be upgraded as far as their bond rating was found to be inaccurate, by mere Pba lawyers.
Before the accusations start, I'm not a officer or involved with the pba, I do have a significant other who works for the County in the legal dept. And this isnt a knock on the current administration, these tactics are quite common and have been used by most government leaders for yearsI've heard similar stories, that in fact Mr. Levy was playing the shell game with certain grants so as to make Suffolk appear to be in the red.

05-17-2005, 12:58 PM
Steve should do a sweep once a month with the feds. It will make Suffolk a less desirable place for them to come to.
I think you are a bit confused, the ''roundup'' of illegals are the wanted criminals. Not the average no-habla daylaborer. The couple bodies the feds get are gang members, drug dealers, gun runners, etc. The crowds standing(and growing ) by the corners arent affected by this.
As far as being desireable, the place they left usually was squalor, some of them had prices on their heads, and when they went to jail, they were beaten, barely fed, and forced to do manual labor. Compare that to living up here, in a house with running water, etc. Plus the jails treat them far better.

05-17-2005, 03:06 PM
Steve should do a sweep once a month with the feds. It will make Suffolk a less desirable place for them to come to.
I think you are a bit confused, the ''roundup'' of illegals are the wanted criminals. Not the average no-habla daylaborer. The couple bodies the feds get are gang members, drug dealers, gun runners, etc. The crowds standing(and growing ) by the corners arent affected by this.
As far as being desireable, the place they left usually was squalor, some of them had prices on their heads, and when they went to jail, they were beaten, barely fed, and forced to do manual labor. Compare that to living up here, in a house with running water, etc. Plus the jails treat them far better.
I would guess our jails would be like a decent hotel down there.

05-18-2005, 05:26 AM
I think a good county official should be dealing with tomorrows problems, traffic,roads, overcrowding, taxes and more taxes, corrupt schools, better fuel sources, alternative energies for the county, how about more cops on patrol, but at a lower salary? Maybe freeze the police dept, hire more sheriffs and park police? Perhaps specialize, park police, disband the counties marine bureau, use something like a county coast guard,likewise for other specialized patrols.
steve's dealing with yesterday's issues, maybe not his fault, but should be working on some future issues.

05-18-2005, 01:17 PM
Steve should do a sweep once a month with the feds. It will make Suffolk a less desirable place for them to come to.
I think you are a bit confused, the ''roundup'' of illegals are the wanted criminals. Not the average no-habla daylaborer. The couple bodies the feds get are gang members, drug dealers, gun runners, etc. The crowds standing(and growing ) by the corners arent affected by this.
As far as being desireable, the place they left usually was squalor, some of them had prices on their heads, and when they went to jail, they were beaten, barely fed, and forced to do manual labor. Compare that to living up here, in a house with running water, etc. Plus the jails treat them far better.
Thats what levys all about, find someone doing something remotely close to what he wants to do and he jumps on the media bandwagon, the average working joe sees this and thinks hes doing something.

05-18-2005, 03:15 PM
uncle al gives you all o/t to supplement your salaries

I would like to afford to live on this Island. I do not want to rely on overtime to have a decent life. Besides Overtime is DEAD!!!

05-19-2005, 02:10 PM
I'm sick of seeing his face everytime there is a story on Suffolk, hes more like a struggling actor trying to get some airtime than a struggling County Exec trying to get some creditability.

05-20-2005, 12:57 PM
How about squashing the corruption and cost of schools? Hes got us so worried about the 500 we spend on the cops, we forget about the 3000 going to the principals vacation fund.

05-21-2005, 02:39 PM
How about squashing the corruption and cost of schools? Hes got us so worried about the 500 we spend on the cops, we forget about the 3000 going to the principals vacation fund.
How about screening the teachers and other personnel who are child predators? C'mon Levy enough is enough

05-21-2005, 05:17 PM
How about squashing the corruption and cost of schools? Hes got us so worried about the 500 we spend on the cops, we forget about the 3000 going to the principals vacation fund.
How about screening the teachers and other personnel who are child predators? C'mon Levy enough is enough
Schools are without a doubt the biggest drain of our money and yet there are so many scandals. How can a school official use 11 million bucks worth of our taxes, and not affect the budget or programs?
Its a huge crock, If levy had a set, he'd go after the schools.

viewpoint
05-23-2005, 04:55 PM
This thread was very interesting and opened my eyes a bit. I assumed Levy was doing well until I read a few of these posts, granted they are anon and possibly from disgruntled employees (suffolk pd) but they are based in fact. Additionally very few posts on these 9 pages were pro cop or pro levy. Most were based on some shortcoming or failure on his part. If I went into this believing Levy was a B+ I'm coming out seeing him as a c-.

05-24-2005, 12:48 PM
This thread was very interesting and opened my eyes a bit. I assumed Levy was doing well until I read a few of these posts, granted they are anon and possibly from disgruntled employees (suffolk pd) but they are based in fact. Additionally very few posts on these 9 pages were pro cop or pro levy. Most were based on some shortcoming or failure on his part. If I went into this believing Levy was a B+ I'm coming out seeing him as a c-.
not even a f

also taxpayer
05-24-2005, 08:27 PM
You know a lot of these posts pick on the average cops salary. their union brought the county to arbitration and won. let's call a spade a spade the county did not prove their case. if a police officer makes over 100k protecting my family then so be it.

there are a lot of substandard teachers who get over 100k a year to teach our children and i don't see you complaining about them. school taxes are what drive up the cost of living here. now is the time for all of the taxpayers to tell the local and state education departments that all the special programs are not needed. get back to the basics and then maybe Johnny will be able to read and do math without the calculater.
they get raises for continuing education i personally know of a teacher who took a course in golf got credit and that equaled an increase. thats wehere we need to show our disgust. if leavy put his energy towards those problems instead of micromanaging everything else and respected all the county employees for their ability. maybe then i could give him a c+. until then he rates a d- micromanaging doesn't accomplish the goal.

05-25-2005, 06:30 PM
You know a lot of these posts pick on the average cops salary. their union brought the county to arbitration and won. let's call a spade a spade the county did not prove their case. if a police officer makes over 100k protecting my family then so be it.

there are a lot of substandard teachers who get over 100k a year to teach our children and i don't see you complaining about them. school taxes are what drive up the cost of living here. now is the time for all of the taxpayers to tell the local and state education departments that all the special programs are not needed. get back to the basics and then maybe Johnny will be able to read and do math without the calculater.
they get raises for continuing education i personally know of a teacher who took a course in golf got credit and that equaled an increase. thats wehere we need to show our disgust. if leavy put his energy towards those problems instead of micromanaging everything else and respected all the county employees for their ability. maybe then i could give him a c+. until then he rates a d- micromanaging doesn't accomplish the goal.
The cops are a issue because Levy sold many of us with his anti-scpd rhetoric. Sadly the only attempt to control the salary was a poorly planned cut to PATROL. Huge mistake, there are many areas to cut, Mr. Levy picked the wrong one. Many wont forgive him for that. The other areas brought up here, school, corruption etc need to be addressed promptly if he wants a 2nd term.

Slant
05-25-2005, 06:35 PM
Viewpoint states that this post opened his eyes to some of the County Execs supposed drawbacks, the fact that there were no specifics other than school scandals goes to verify Levy has been doing a pretty good job. Under the previous administration you could of looked at a scandal ridden environmental program, taxes that continued to go up well over the rate of inflation, and no efforts to stream line government.

General fund taxes are down and the environmental program is back on track, and the crime rate is down just look at the statistics. The only the partisan critics can point to are things out of Levy’s control like school spending and school taxes. So if Levy raised the general fund taxes his critics would have been all over him instead he lowered them, what do his critics do they don’t praise him for being a forward manger as was confirmed by the bond raters. Instead, they blame him for school taxes going up for which he has no control. He is damned if he does or damned if he doesn’t.
Viewpoint can’t look at these postings and give them much credibility.

If you look at the Nassau County website Suozzi is bashed all over the place, yet his poll numbers are still very high among the general public. These postings tend to be places who blow off steam, people who are happy about the way things are going do not spend much time plugging in. It is indeed the disgruntles or those with some agenda to promote. Give the guy credit he has done a lot of things he said he was going to do.
He said he would remove hundreds of cars from the political hacks, and he has. Some of them can’t be removed because of union contracts.

He said he would put more officers on the street and he has. In fact there are 70 more officers on patrol this year than there were at the end of Gaffney’s administration.
He said he would restore the open space program and he has. Two weeks ago we had the largest preservation of farmland in one day in county history.
He said he would cut out $500,000 in chauffeurs which the previous administration had and he did.
Give him credit for bringing in top notch department heads like Jim Morgo in Economic Development and Mike Deering to head the Environmental Division.

He said he would crack down on illegal contractors and he has done so at a very aggressive space. While he can’t solve the immigration problem himself at least he has had the courage to address the issue and cross reference the felony pick ups with the illegal alien list. A lot of his detractors on this site dislike the fact that he get so much media attention. It is not as though he has to reach out for it, unlike the previous county executive he at least shows up to work and has a very aggressive agenda.

05-25-2005, 08:04 PM
Viewpoint states that this post opened his eyes to some of the County Execs supposed drawbacks, the fact that there were no specifics other than school scandals goes to verify Levy has been doing a pretty good job. Under the previous administration you could of looked at a scandal ridden environmental program, taxes that continued to go up well over the rate of inflation, and no efforts to stream line government.

General fund taxes are down and the environmental program is back on track, and the crime rate is down just look at the statistics. The only the partisan critics can point to are things out of Levy’s control like school spending and school taxes. So if Levy raised the general fund taxes his critics would have been all over him instead he lowered them, what do his critics do they don’t praise him for being a forward manger as was confirmed by the bond raters. Instead, they blame him for school taxes going up for which he has no control. He is damned if he does or damned if he doesn’t.
Viewpoint can’t look at these postings and give them much credibility.

If you look at the Nassau County website Suozzi is bashed all over the place, yet his poll numbers are still very high among the general public. These postings tend to be places who blow off steam, people who are happy about the way things are going do not spend much time plugging in. It is indeed the disgruntles or those with some agenda to promote. Give the guy credit he has done a lot of things he said he was going to do.
He said he would remove hundreds of cars from the political hacks, and he has. Some of them can’t be removed because of union contracts.

He said he would put more officers on the street and he has. In fact there are 70 more officers on patrol this year than there were at the end of Gaffney’s administration.
He said he would restore the open space program and he has. Two weeks ago we had the largest preservation of farmland in one day in county history.
He said he would cut out $500,000 in chauffeurs which the previous administration had and he did.
Give him credit for bringing in top notch department heads like Jim Morgo in Economic Development and Mike Deering to head the Environmental Division.

He said he would crack down on illegal contractors and he has done so at a very aggressive space. While he can’t solve the immigration problem himself at least he has had the courage to address the issue and cross reference the felony pick ups with the illegal alien list. A lot of his detractors on this site dislike the fact that he get so much media attention. It is not as though he has to reach out for it, unlike the previous county executive he at least shows up to work and has a very aggressive agenda.
For starters I dont care about nassau, or the past admin nor am I comparing them to him.
The fact that there are no current scandals going other than the usual in crookhaven doesnt mean all is quiet.
Levy made large promises to cut taxes, yes general taxes are down, but the police tax that goes into the general fund are up, so taxes have gone up.
More cops on the street, Are you referring to the additional 45 supervisors? Or the desk cops forced to ride double with a single car operator? That is hardly additional patrols, that is additional dead weight. My understanding is most of these desk cops are not certified emts or even own a bullet proof vest and simply refuse to exit the Police car when there is a real crime.
Levy did get rid of the driver but has hired a additional 4-5 ''advisors'' plus hired more admin. officials in all branches of his govt. In fact he went as far as to hire a administrative Lt, in each precinct who never leaves his office except to go to lunch or meetings, costing us, what 140,000 per empty suit?
Again the bond rating went up because of the alledged deficit that Levy proposed in order to undercut the police raise. When the deficit was proven to be a surplus, raise was approved and at a higher rate than if Levy just kept his mouth shut.
As far as the felon illegals that again is Levy showboating, the Police thruout the United States have to call the Feds when a illegal commits a crime and check to see if they are to be held. Stop believing every sound bite Levy puts out.

are we better off now?
05-25-2005, 08:20 PM
It seems to me that there is one person repeatedly defending the County exec, by using the same issues, bond rating and comparing him to other administrative leaders. And for quite some time stated everyone anti-levy was a pba member.
The exec should be held on his own not compared to other counties leaders, nassau has a junk bond rating, how fare is that?
Levy said he wouldnt be Gaffney, if the best anyone can say is hes better than gaff, that isnt a heck of a statement.
Let Levy stand on his own merit or lack thereof, stop making excuses for the negative feedback. He made promises, we are holding him to them, if he fails he fails.
Are we better off now than when he got into office?
I and most of my friends,coworkers and neighbors, struggling to keep afloat, working 2 jobs, selling to go upstate, are not.
He will take some of that blame, that is his job.

scpd reality
05-25-2005, 08:39 PM
He said he would put more officers on the street and he has. In fact there are 70 more officers on patrol this year than there were at the end of Gaffney’s administration.
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He actually had little to do with the cops that came out of the last class. For starters there were over 110, most simply replaced the ones that moved up or retired. (scpd has a average of 120-150 retirements per year). There has been 2 years of retirements that have not been replaced since then.
Next the federal government paid for them to enter our academy thru federal funding from the 9/11 funding. Had these funds not been received the class wouldnt have went thru. Levy simply refused to hire any new police, and hoped to somehow squash the o/t, which failed miserably, o/t is way over and above last year at this time.
In fact the recommendation for the current class was originally 100 recruits in spring and another 100 in the fall, it was chipped down by Levy to a total of 120. His plan was to have the academy and training staff work thru the summer,and save on overtime, but 80% of them have over a month of vacation each. So these officers have little to do for the next few months.
The posters are far off when they discuss the officers being forced to patrol after several years of not doing patrol. Most are no longer certified to drive a police car, do cpr, dont have body armor, or many of the current equipment being used. and are not familiar with most newer police forms or even the computer in the Police car. They are not always doubled with a patrol officer but are held on ''special'' assignments, prisoner runs, errands, hospital details,etc, the commanding officers make sure they are hidden.
As far as unlicensed contractors go, every year scpd averages around 300 arrests, this year they are around 160 arrests so far, putting them on pace for................... 320 total arrests.

viewpoint
05-26-2005, 01:20 PM
Viewpoint states that this post opened his eyes to some of the County Execs supposed drawbacks, the fact that there were no specifics other than school scandals goes to verify Levy has been doing a pretty good job. Under the previous administration you could of looked at a scandal ridden environmental program, taxes that continued to go up well over the rate of inflation, and no efforts to stream line government.

General fund taxes are down and the environmental program is back on track, and the crime rate is down just look at the statistics. The only the partisan critics can point to are things out of Levy’s control like school spending and school taxes. So if Levy raised the general fund taxes his critics would have been all over him instead he lowered them, what do his critics do they don’t praise him for being a forward manger as was confirmed by the bond raters. Instead, they blame him for school taxes going up for which he has no control. He is damned if he does or damned if he doesn’t.
Viewpoint can’t look at these postings and give them much credibility.

If you look at the Nassau County website Suozzi is bashed all over the place, yet his poll numbers are still very high among the general public. These postings tend to be places who blow off steam, people who are happy about the way things are going do not spend much time plugging in. It is indeed the disgruntles or those with some agenda to promote. Give the guy credit he has done a lot of things he said he was going to do.
He said he would remove hundreds of cars from the political hacks, and he has. Some of them can’t be removed because of union contracts.

He said he would put more officers on the street and he has. In fact there are 70 more officers on patrol this year than there were at the end of Gaffney’s administration.
He said he would restore the open space program and he has. Two weeks ago we had the largest preservation of farmland in one day in county history.
He said he would cut out $500,000 in chauffeurs which the previous administration had and he did.
Give him credit for bringing in top notch department heads like Jim Morgo in Economic Development and Mike Deering to head the Environmental Division.

He said he would crack down on illegal contractors and he has done so at a very aggressive space. While he can’t solve the immigration problem himself at least he has had the courage to address the issue and cross reference the felony pick ups with the illegal alien list. A lot of his detractors on this site dislike the fact that he get so much media attention. It is not as though he has to reach out for it, unlike the previous county executive he at least shows up to work and has a very aggressive agenda.
Again reading many posts, you hear the musical chairs being played with many things, cops, budgets, staffing, all in the name of appearing to be on top of everything. I feel Levy is deceiving us, by showing up on a Federal sweep of wanted felons, its seems like Levy is cracking down, then I hear that Feds come here when they need to, and do so without Levy's direction.
One poster repeatedly states how the general taxes went down on Levy's direction, then I research and find that there is no police tax fund, that thoses taxes are collected seperate and entered with the general taxes, when the police taxes went up our taxes went up.
The ''crackdown on contractors'' was just a new law enabling suffolk to seize the vehicles, that will lead to more lawsuits and costs for us, just like the DWI seizures. THats not really solving the problem.
Additionally as others posted Levy attempted to project a huge deficit so as to prevent the pba from landing another sweetheart deal. When a mere lawyer or two proved there was a surplus 2 years ago, Levy ended up screwing the taxpayers, by 6%. So the bond rating that was based in part of the deficit closing, was yet more smoke and mirrors. I could go on and on repeating what was posted here, but just read the posts.
Slant your problem is comparing Levy to Gaffney, Suozzi, etc. Thats getting way off the topic and thats what people usually do when they are trying to change the subject. I voted for Levy, I wanted him to change the system. Right now my taxes are higher, if you put police and general taxes together. My school taxes are higher. It costs more to live here. There are more illegals moving into the town, not my neighborhood yet, but that will happen. The roads are packed, people drive like idiots. There is no public transportation. There are so many issues that have to be dealt with.
Stop making excuses and hiding behind his double talk. Don't compare him to others and say we are better off with him, compare where we are to where we were, or where we should be. He's got to get the job done.

sitting on the fence.
05-26-2005, 03:35 PM
I voted for levy as well. I am not in the know like most of the posters seems to be. So I take most of what is said here skeptically. Most of the anti-levy posts have statements on how the government twists or manipulates things to seem like they are effecting a change. This is quite common in politics as you will all see when you've been around a while. It is also common when the government isnt doing as well as it should, when its reelection time or when the person in question is trying to run for another office.
Alot of the programs or policies being instituted currently wont affect our day to day life. That is where levy has to make a difference to be reelected. He needs to change the situation with the taxes,illegals,cops, etc, not just address them. Anything less is failure. Thats the job he was hired for.

05-26-2005, 04:51 PM
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If you look at the Nassau County website Suozzi is bashed all over the place, yet his poll numbers are still very high among the general public. These postings tend to be places who blow off steam, people who are happy about the way things are going do not spend much time plugging in. It is indeed the disgruntles or those with some agenda to promote. Give the guy credit he has done a lot of things he said he was going to do.


It has been stated here several times, 1st stating that the posters here are all ''pba members'' blowing off steam because.... why would they? Due to levys incompetence and failed policies the pba received a larger raise than expected. Now because of the attempt to remove cops from neighborhoods, many and I mean many pro-levy Huntington dems are no longer backing him, what so ever. So like you said the happy pba would'nt bother posting here. The police came out smelling like roses, and the current commissioner who levy hired and backed looks like a horses ass. Personally if I was a cop, why would I want to have incompetence like this 3 ring circus ousted?
Now it is people with a agenda or gripe, well which are you? Doesnt everyone who answers a poll or posts here have a gripe, or agenda?Polls are just that, polls. I've never entered one myself, its usually done somewhere during the day, like a supermarket, where people are shopping and have some time to kill. They are not reflective of the voters come election time
These are legit gripes from disillusioned or unhappy taxpayers, you know it otherwise you wouldnt try to discredit their opinions.

05-26-2005, 08:37 PM
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If you look at the Nassau County website Suozzi is bashed all over the place, yet his poll numbers are still very high among the general public. These postings tend to be places who blow off steam, people who are happy about the way things are going do not spend much time plugging in. It is indeed the disgruntles or those with some agenda to promote. Give the guy credit he has done a lot of things he said he was going to do.


It has been stated here several times, 1st stating that the posters here are all ''pba members'' blowing off steam because.... why would they? Due to levys incompetence and failed policies the pba received a larger raise than expected. Now because of the attempt to remove cops from neighborhoods, many and I mean many pro-levy Huntington dems are no longer backing him, what so ever. So like you said the happy pba would'nt bother posting here. The police came out smelling like roses, and the current commissioner who levy hired and backed looks like a horses ass. Personally if I was a cop, why would I want to have incompetence like this 3 ring circus ousted?
Now it is people with a agenda or gripe, well which are you? Doesnt everyone who answers a poll or posts here have a gripe, or agenda?Polls are just that, polls. I've never entered one myself, its usually done somewhere during the day, like a supermarket, where people are shopping and have some time to kill. They are not reflective of the voters come election time
These are legit gripes from disillusioned or unhappy taxpayers, you know it otherwise you wouldnt try to discredit their opinions.
Really why would Suffolk's pd care if Levy was in office? He has not pulled through on his promises against them in any way. They more or less laugh about him. He makes a big show and dance and
they continue on their merry way to the bank. Its almost choreographed.
The illegals? for every 1 they lock up, 20 more move into his apartment. Whatever happened to loitering?
Taxes are going up, not down. Drive down a few side roads and see how many homes are for sale, how many people and not just the young, moving out of the island, no one builds or sells homes for under 300k, in fact I'm starting to believe you need a scpd 120k salary just to break even out here.
The roads are horrible but other than state roads who cares? Im not forking over the loot to fix the roads.
This county is a mess

Huntington Anti-Levy
05-30-2005, 02:58 PM
Heard the police commissioner is on borrowed time reference the embarrassing debacle with the overnight cars closure. Levy is just waiting for the dust to settle a bit, so it doesnt LOOK like the Huntington residents won. Dormer will formally announce his retirement early in the fall.Take full responsibilty for the mistake, beg us not to take it out on levy.

Western front
06-05-2005, 01:39 AM
the western front has been real quite since they won...

dangerous
06-16-2005, 04:04 PM
He said he would put more officers on the street and he has. In fact there are 70 more officers on patrol this year than there were at the end of Gaffney’s administration.
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He actually had little to do with the cops that came out of the last class. For starters there were over 110, most simply replaced the ones that moved up or retired. (scpd has a average of 120-150 retirements per year). There has been 2 years of retirements that have not been replaced since then.
Next the federal government paid for them to enter our academy thru federal funding from the 9/11 funding. Had these funds not been received the class wouldnt have went thru. Levy simply refused to hire any new police, and hoped to somehow squash the o/t, which failed miserably, o/t is way over and above last year at this time.
In fact the recommendation for the current class was originally 100 recruits in spring and another 100 in the fall, it was chipped down by Levy to a total of 120. His plan was to have the academy and training staff work thru the summer,and save on overtime, but 80% of them have over a month of vacation each. So these officers have little to do for the next few months.
The posters are far off when they discuss the officers being forced to patrol after several years of not doing patrol. Most are no longer certified to drive a police car, do cpr, dont have body armor, or many of the current equipment being used. and are not familiar with most newer police forms or even the computer in the Police car. They are not always doubled with a patrol officer but are held on ''special'' assignments, prisoner runs, errands, hospital details,etc, the commanding officers make sure they are hidden.
As far as unlicensed contractors go, every year scpd averages around 300 arrests, this year they are around 160 arrests so far, putting them on pace for................... 320 total arrests.
You are absolutely right yesterday I had a small fire in the woods behind my house, as luck would have it I saw a cop driving on the main road, he came over and was completely lost as what to do, he was fronm some desk or acamedy job forced to go out on patrol for 2 weeks, so the precinct put him on assigment at the beach, wow hard job. He couldnt use the computer and had to do everything thru the radio. He was apologetic and embarassed, luckily it wasnt a emergency, but its a shame to put both a cop and the public at risk with a out of touch desk jockey

06-17-2005, 05:02 PM
Right now they are supposed to do bike patrol/ foot patrol, you ever see the desk crews? It wont be a week before we have a heart attack or two, not to mention they will be absolutely useless

06-18-2005, 05:08 PM
They are pulling people off various paperwork jobs, and putting them on the streets, the paperwork they do, I.E. pistol licensing which must be processed in a specific time period by NYS law.
As soon as the time period is close, what kind of overtime are these jobs going to entail, its a lose lose situation, Unqualified cops unable to answer 911 calls hiding in the mall or beach and their own work piling up.

mouth
06-25-2005, 12:56 AM
look at what he just give to the union makes me cry .what a big mouth what did he take away nothing bye bye levy go get your pictures taken with fields :oops:

misled taxpayer
09-26-2010, 10:24 PM
To the poster who said that crime is up and taxes are up, I have to ask where you make up these facts. While your school taxes might have gone up Levy's so cheap he kept the county budget under control.



Levy has raised the police tax by average 45.00.
2009 = 15.00
2010=30.00
The class that was supposed to be 200, and cost 30.00 was cut to 70 and went in around June. That should be a 5.00 hit for less then 1/2 the cops and 1/2 the year. That still leaves the 15.00 for last year, and this year.
In total we've paid 60.00 for 270.00 cops that we will see about 70 of, nnext year.
The county has allowed 300 + cops to retire. It taxed you for a police force of 2800 and now, almost 3100. The monies collected do not go into a police tax fund, but rather the general tax fund, not illegal, just misleading.
Levy can state that he has not raised the general tax fund. But as long as the police tax goes up, the extra money can be used for any purpose.

crimeisupupup
09-27-2010, 12:40 AM
Levy's grade should mirror what the bond raters recently gave his management style an A+.

To the poster who said that crime is up and taxes are up, I have to ask where you make up these facts. While your school taxes might have gone up Levy's so cheap he kept the county budget under control.

It was amazing that he was able to give a small general fund tax cut when he inherited such a mess from the previous administration. While you keep whining about his taking on the police union his gutsy moves not only brought in the police budget lower than anything Gaffney ever had but crime was also being reduced by 10%. This year crime is continuing to go down by over 4% from last year's low base.

Gaffney nearly killed the open space program, Levy has it cranked up again. We have had more immigrants criminals deported in one year of Levy than under 12 years of Gaffney's head in the sand policies.

Give the guy credit he has got guts. I knew I liked this guy when I heard the protesting workers outside his building were chanting "Stingy Steve". A lot of these guys talk a good game of being fiscal conservatives but spend like drunken sailors.

Levy not only talks the talk but walks the walk. A+++

Levys talk is crap just like his walk. When you say crime is down you must remember who manages and reports on the crime statistics. That's Levy's administration in the PD. I guess Steve-o or his boys don't lie. Yeah right. Just a fact. Violent crime (murders, robberies) is on an all time increase. Don't believe the lies. Just read, watch or listen to the news. More bank robberies and murders then ever this year. Being informed is more then just listening to a politicians lies.

What he said...
09-27-2010, 02:35 PM
Sapere aude!

justsoyouknow
09-27-2010, 07:52 PM
Levys talk is crap just like his walk. When you say crime is down you must remember who manages and reports on the crime statistics. That's Levy's administration in the PD. I guess Steve-o or his boys don't lie. Yeah right. Just a fact. Violent crime (murders, robberies) is on an all time increase. Don't believe the lies. Just read, watch or listen to the news. More bank robberies and murders then ever this year. Being informed is more then just listening to a politicians lies.

Not to mention all the 911 calls that are never reported as crimes. The cop says he will take a look around and he never returns and unless you go into the pct to make a formal complaint your call just becomes another unfounded. I would like to know the stats on the unfounded.