Cost of SCPD

[Taxpayer 2005]

It cost me $800 last year for them and their $100,000 paychecks just so they can sit on their ass in the firehouse parking lot.

How much does it take to run the force for a whole year? All expenses included.

It cost me $800 last year for them and their $100,000 paychecks just so they can sit on their ass in the firehouse parking lot.

How much does it take to run the force for a whole year? All expenses included.
been thru this 100s of times,- the 800 you pay goes into the general tax till, what is needed is used the rest goes to other areas, schools, highways etc.
The generalized reference of cops sitting in firehouses/parkinglots has also been a running theme. the amount of calls for service compared to patrol officers is ridiculous.
And the theme that a average cop makes more money for the county, state, village with his meet the minimum stats,(I.E. tickets and arrests) and there are many cops who are well above the minimum, has also been repeated ad infinitum.
Finally the theme that if you are having trouble affording your taxes......... move! they are not going down, and if your income isnt going up drastically anytime soon, you might as well leave, before it gets too expensive for you to remain.
ok troll?

It cost me $800 last year for them and their $100,000 paychecks just so they can sit on their ass in the firehouse parking lot.

How much does it take to run the force for a whole year? All expenses included.
been thru this 100s of times,- the 800 you pay goes into the general tax till, what is needed is used the rest goes to other areas, schools, highways etc.
The generalized reference of cops sitting in firehouses/parkinglots has also been a running theme. the amount of calls for service compared to patrol officers is ridiculous.
And the theme that a average cop makes more money for the county, state, village with his meet the minimum stats,(I.E. tickets and arrests) and there are many cops who are well above the minimum, has also been repeated ad infinitum.
Finally the theme that if you are having trouble affording your taxes......... move! they are not going down, and if your income isnt going up drastically anytime soon, you might as well leave, before it gets too expensive for you to remain.
ok troll?
Is your name Dick Dormer? Not everyone has multiple pensions plus the PC salary to live on.

[Guesswho]

It cost me $800 last year for them and their $100,000 paychecks just so they can sit on their ass in the firehouse parking lot.

How much does it take to run the force for a whole year? All expenses included.
been thru this 100s of times,- the 800 you pay goes into the general tax till, what is needed is used the rest goes to other areas, schools, highways etc.
The generalized reference of cops sitting in firehouses/parkinglots has also been a running theme. the amount of calls for service compared to patrol officers is ridiculous.
And the theme that a average cop makes more money for the county, state, village with his meet the minimum stats,(I.E. tickets and arrests) and there are many cops who are well above the minimum, has also been repeated ad infinitum.
Finally the theme that if you are having trouble affording your taxes......... move! they are not going down, and if your income isnt going up drastically anytime soon, you might as well leave, before it gets too expensive for you to remain.
ok troll?

Everyone who puts their hard earn pay into the general tax till has the right to question how their money is being spent whether you like it or not. It's not your job to belittle them on here or in public. Or tell them to move, either. They have every right to inquire about the wasting of tax dollars. So suck it up and do your job if you can not deal with that. If you can't handle it in a professional manner, then find yourself another form of employment better suited to your needs.

[dont care who]

It cost me $800 last year for them and their $100,000 paychecks just so they can sit on their ass in the firehouse parking lot.

How much does it take to run the force for a whole year? All expenses included.
been thru this 100s of times,- the 800 you pay goes into the general tax till, what is needed is used the rest goes to other areas, schools, highways etc.
The generalized reference of cops sitting in firehouses/parkinglots has also been a running theme. the amount of calls for service compared to patrol officers is ridiculous.
And the theme that a average cop makes more money for the county, state, village with his meet the minimum stats,(I.E. tickets and arrests) and there are many cops who are well above the minimum, has also been repeated ad infinitum.
Finally the theme that if you are having trouble affording your taxes......... move! they are not going down, and if your income isnt going up drastically anytime soon, you might as well leave, before it gets too expensive for you to remain.
ok troll?

Everyone who puts their hard earn pay into the general tax till has the right to question how their money is being spent whether you like it or not. It's not your job to belittle them on here or in public. Or tell them to move, either. They have every right to inquire about the wasting of tax dollars. So suck it up and do your job if you can not deal with that. If you can't handle it in a professional manner, then find yourself another form of employment better suited to your needs.
Gee, is that this thread was? Sounds like 40 or 50 other posts about the wonderland of l.i. where cops never do anything because there is no crime, accidents, reports, etc and they just sit in the firehouse. Other than a few, very few north shore areas, that myth has been gone for about 15 years.
Its not anyones job to start a thread belittling us and telling us we dont do anything. If this was supposed to be a serious thread, it got off to a trollish bash cops start, so now thats what it is.
It is all your jobs as a citizens of Suffolk to pay your taxes, so you suck it up and you do your jobs. If all of you cannot handle it, then you all need to find another form of employment better suited to pay your taxes. Or you can move.
If you reserve the right to tell us we sit on our asses, I reserve the right to tell you to move. This isnt the complaint dept of Levys fallen regime, this is a public message board, I can post whatever I want.

[Trollthis]

It is unfortunate but costs are over inflated for government. The process and the nature of how it accomplishes tasks are inheritably costly. This said, SCPD is the worst in the nation, Steve Levy knows it, I know it, even every darn taxpayer in Suffolk County knows it. The only people who cannot come to terms with this is the officers that are feeding of the government fat farm. This is there gravy train! So any verbiage presented otherwise is turned into that the poster is a troll, been arrested, gotten a ticket etc., etc. As with many police tactic’s they tend to change the subject to distance themselves from the original question at hand. This is there MOA. Seems after the academy and a few weeks on the “Hard” streets of Gordon heights they become an accounting genius. Additionally, they will call all there little friends over to this post to rip it apart, because like a street gang, they only can survive with the help of others who, some of which, really do not belong on the street much less in the department. Check some of the Supreme Court Justices posts, not only funny but you can see the point where the “Officer” bales out of the postings and cannot take it anymore often referring to things that are not related to the post. It is quite amusing. It’s time for an official auditing of the department from the state, federal enforcement. We the people demand to know….oooppps we already do!

It is unfortunate but costs are over inflated for government. The process and the nature of how it accomplishes tasks are inheritably costly. This said, SCPD is the worst in the nation, Steve Levy knows it, I know it, even every darn taxpayer in Suffolk County knows it. The only people who cannot come to terms with this is the officers that are feeding of the government fat farm. This is there gravy train! So any verbiage presented otherwise is turned into that the poster is a troll, been arrested, gotten a ticket etc., etc. As with many police tactic’s they tend to change the subject to distance themselves from the original question at hand. This is there MOA. Seems after the academy and a few weeks on the “Hard” streets of Gordon heights they become an accounting genius. Additionally, they will call all there little friends over to this post to rip it apart, because like a street gang, they only can survive with the help of others who, some of which, really do not belong on the street much less in the department. Check some of the Supreme Court Justices posts, not only funny but you can see the point where the “Officer” bales out of the postings and cannot take it anymore often referring to things that are not related to the post. It is quite amusing. It’s time for an official auditing of the department from the state, federal enforcement. We the people demand to know….oooppps we already do!
You are completely ignorant if you believe for a second, the patrol cop has anything to do with the budget of the scpd. That is a issue you have with the government, not us you moron.
The average community in suffolk is full of animals, we do not have the luxury of sitting on our butts, we are out dealing with the savages that beat their kids, resist arrest, steal from one another, try to off themselves, call every 5 minutes about their neighbor, because they cannot handle talking to each other with any respect, etc. Again if a police officer writes the minimum summons and makes 1 arrest a month, which is quite easy, I have nearly enough arrests for 2005, 2006 from the past 4 months of 2005. And the way you all drive, drink and drive and have no license and drive, summons out here are like shooting fish in a barrel, the officer makes his salary for the year for the state, county and villages. Its not us to worry about, its all the fluff of the dept, thats draining the taxes.
Of course everything in long island is overinflated, so the government takes its part as well. You go and show me where the dedicated budget for the SCPD is, you'll never find it. The taxes taken are put right into the general tax till.
the entire supreme ct thing was a joke, as is most of these threads, ignorant trolls, who think that because they pay a few pennies towards our salaries they are expert know it alls on the police budget, talking about things they are completely clueless to.

[nydhb]

It cost me $800 last year for them and their $100,000 paychecks just so they can sit on their ass in the firehouse parking lot.

How much does it take to run the force for a whole year? All expenses included.
been thru this 100s of times,- the 800 you pay goes into the general tax till, what is needed is used the rest goes to other areas, schools, highways etc.
The generalized reference of cops sitting in firehouses/parkinglots has also been a running theme. the amount of calls for service compared to patrol officers is ridiculous.
And the theme that a average cop makes more money for the county, state, village with his meet the minimum stats,(I.E. tickets and arrests) and there are many cops who are well above the minimum, has also been repeated ad infinitum.
Finally the theme that if you are having trouble affording your taxes......... move! they are not going down, and if your income isnt going up drastically anytime soon, you might as well leave, before it gets too expensive for you to remain.
ok troll?

Why shuuld I have to leave the place i was born? Give me a few good reasons taxes aer so freaking high. I know people who are paying as much as 16,000, yes, 16 thousand on houses that are not mansions. Quit whining because people question your salery when they're barely making enough to scrape by and wondering why Levy and the crew are raping us without at least kissing us first.

It cost me $800 last year for them and their $100,000 paychecks just so they can sit on their ass in the firehouse parking lot.

How much does it take to run the force for a whole year? All expenses included.
been thru this 100s of times,- the 800 you pay goes into the general tax till, what is needed is used the rest goes to other areas, schools, highways etc.
The generalized reference of cops sitting in firehouses/parkinglots has also been a running theme. the amount of calls for service compared to patrol officers is ridiculous.
And the theme that a average cop makes more money for the county, state, village with his meet the minimum stats,(I.E. tickets and arrests) and there are many cops who are well above the minimum, has also been repeated ad infinitum.
Finally the theme that if you are having trouble affording your taxes......... move! they are not going down, and if your income isnt going up drastically anytime soon, you might as well leave, before it gets too expensive for you to remain.
ok troll?

Why shuuld I have to leave the place i was born? Give me a few good reasons taxes aer so freaking high. I know people who are paying as much as 16,000, yes, 16 thousand on houses that are not mansions. Quit whining because people question your salery when they're barely making enough to scrape by and wondering why Levy and the crew are raping us without at least kissing us first.
I will quit whining when you do. Hey you want to work 2-3 jobs to pay your taxes, never see your family, thats fine with me, but in 10 years when you are paying 2000 more for taxes, plus the rising cost of gas, oil, electricity, food, cars college etc, what are you going to do then? Work 5 jobs?
By the way, whats a salery?

[I don't believe]

It is unfortunate but costs are over inflated for government. The process and the nature of how it accomplishes tasks are inheritably costly. This said, SCPD is the worst in the nation, Steve Levy knows it, I know it, even every darn taxpayer in Suffolk County knows it. The only people who cannot come to terms with this is the officers that are feeding of the government fat farm. This is there gravy train! So any verbiage presented otherwise is turned into that the poster is a troll, been arrested, gotten a ticket etc., etc. As with many police tactic’s they tend to change the subject to distance themselves from the original question at hand. This is there MOA. Seems after the academy and a few weeks on the “Hard” streets of Gordon heights they become an accounting genius. Additionally, they will call all there little friends over to this post to rip it apart, because like a street gang, they only can survive with the help of others who, some of which, really do not belong on the street much less in the department. Check some of the Supreme Court Justices posts, not only funny but you can see the point where the “Officer” bales out of the postings and cannot take it anymore often referring to things that are not related to the post. It is quite amusing. It’s time for an official auditing of the department from the state, federal enforcement. We the people demand to know….oooppps we already do!
You are completely ignorant if you believe for a second, the patrol cop has anything to do with the budget of the scpd. That is a issue you have with the government, not us you moron.
The average community in suffolk is full of animals, we do not have the luxury of sitting on our butts, we are out dealing with the savages that beat their kids, resist arrest, steal from one another, try to off themselves, call every 5 minutes about their neighbor, because they cannot handle talking to each other with any respect, etc. Again if a police officer writes the minimum summons and makes 1 arrest a month, which is quite easy, I have nearly enough arrests for 2005, 2006 from the past 4 months of 2005. And the way you all drive, drink and drive and have no license and drive, summons out here are like shooting fish in a barrel, the officer makes his salary for the year for the state, county and villages. Its not us to worry about, its all the fluff of the dept, thats draining the taxes.
Of course everything in long island is overinflated, so the government takes its part as well. You go and show me where the dedicated budget for the SCPD is, you'll never find it. The taxes taken are put right into the general tax till.
the entire supreme ct thing was a joke, as is most of these threads, ignorant trolls, who think that because they pay a few pennies towards our salaries they are expert know it alls on the police budget, talking about things they are completely clueless to.

Try again. The county gets around 5 bucks a ticket for each ticket processed through tvb. Arrests COST the county/state money in that most arrests are shit canned by the DAs office and therefore don't return money to the county coffers. The ones where there is a plea bargain mostly result in X# of years probation which costs the county money. Stop spewing this crap of "we make the county money by writing tix, making arrests and therefore cover our salaries". It's crap

[you dont have a clue]

It is unfortunate but costs are over inflated for government. The process and the nature of how it accomplishes tasks are inheritably costly. This said, SCPD is the worst in the nation, Steve Levy knows it, I know it, even every darn taxpayer in Suffolk County knows it. The only people who cannot come to terms with this is the officers that are feeding of the government fat farm. This is there gravy train! So any verbiage presented otherwise is turned into that the poster is a troll, been arrested, gotten a ticket etc., etc. As with many police tactic’s they tend to change the subject to distance themselves from the original question at hand. This is there MOA. Seems after the academy and a few weeks on the “Hard” streets of Gordon heights they become an accounting genius. Additionally, they will call all there little friends over to this post to rip it apart, because like a street gang, they only can survive with the help of others who, some of which, really do not belong on the street much less in the department. Check some of the Supreme Court Justices posts, not only funny but you can see the point where the “Officer” bales out of the postings and cannot take it anymore often referring to things that are not related to the post. It is quite amusing. It’s time for an official auditing of the department from the state, federal enforcement. We the people demand to know….oooppps we already do!
You are completely ignorant if you believe for a second, the patrol cop has anything to do with the budget of the scpd. That is a issue you have with the government, not us you moron.
The average community in suffolk is full of animals, we do not have the luxury of sitting on our butts, we are out dealing with the savages that beat their kids, resist arrest, steal from one another, try to off themselves, call every 5 minutes about their neighbor, because they cannot handle talking to each other with any respect, etc. Again if a police officer writes the minimum summons and makes 1 arrest a month, which is quite easy, I have nearly enough arrests for 2005, 2006 from the past 4 months of 2005. And the way you all drive, drink and drive and have no license and drive, summons out here are like shooting fish in a barrel, the officer makes his salary for the year for the state, county and villages. Its not us to worry about, its all the fluff of the dept, thats draining the taxes.
Of course everything in long island is overinflated, so the government takes its part as well. You go and show me where the dedicated budget for the SCPD is, you'll never find it. The taxes taken are put right into the general tax till.
the entire supreme ct thing was a joke, as is most of these threads, ignorant trolls, who think that because they pay a few pennies towards our salaries they are expert know it alls on the police budget, talking about things they are completely clueless to.

Try again. The county gets around 5 bucks a ticket for each ticket processed through tvb. Arrests COST the county/state money in that most arrests are shit canned by the DAs office and therefore don't return money to the county coffers. The ones where there is a plea bargain mostly result in X# of years probation which costs the county money. Stop spewing this crap of "we make the county money by writing tix, making arrests and therefore cover our salaries". It's crap
Never said that, I said we make the state, county, and village money.
Who writes to tvb? Its a waste of time.I dont write summons to tvb, I get all misdemeanor summons, i. e. 511,1192,1212. Those go to 1st district court.They are pled down, but when you show up with a 511, plus 4-5 other summons movers, no insurance, etc, you are going to pay some money,300-500, plus cost of lawyer. A uninsured infraction is something like 500 or 1000 fine, plus a revoked license. Nearly everyday some ''average long islander'' is driving around right in front of me, like a jackass, with a bad license or drunk. The state gets most of the loot, yes, but additionally the county is issued money and grants based on their officers activity. Additionally, when you write a town or village summons, the town gets the lions share of the money, and give some to the county.
I've never heard of a legit arrest dismissed. None that I've made have ever been dismissed. Certainly pled down, if its a violation, and perhaps a misdemeanor, and most felons, and there are many of you out there, will plead out guilty to a lighter sentence. But never dismissed. Sorry I truly believe you are clueless, you have no idea how it works.

another quick point, when you are on probation, YOU, the probationary suffolk county resident, PAY the officer for his services. Not the taxpayer

yet another point, a minor charge like shoplifting 50.00 worth of close will net a lawyer 500.00, the store up to 200.00, and the county another 200 for the charge, plus 3% of your posted bail.
Thats under the assumption that you have a fairly clean record, and show up in court only 2x. At arraignment and when you plead guilty to whatever. Also if you enter the ''stoplift'' program thats another couple hundred bucks. All for about 1 hour of police work

[Waste of Time]

Why do you waste your breathe explaining things to these message board know-it-alls? They cannot even grasp the concepts you are writing. No matter what you say, you are wrong. They conveniently hide behind the fact that theyare completely in the dark about law enforcement and the court system. You moron, probation is a privilege, not a right, as a convicted criminal, you are owned by the court system. You pay for your own drug tests, your appointments etc, not the general public. Give it up, you are wasting your breath.

We pay a lot of money for a normal police force. That has something to do with where we live. My taxes are almost 10,000 a year and thats life. My police taxes are about 850 a year, not bad.
Last week went to see the Yankees for me and 3 boys cost round trip 220 bucks, for about 6 hours of my life. I imagine if the Yankees played out here it would be more like 500, ha.
People need to lighten up....death and taxes

[I'm not buying it]

Why do you waste your breathe explaining things to these message board know-it-alls? They cannot even grasp the concepts you are writing. No matter what you say, you are wrong. They conveniently hide behind the fact that theyare completely in the dark about law enforcement and the court system. You moron, probation is a privilege, not a right, as a convicted criminal, you are owned by the court system. You pay for your own drug tests, your appointments etc, not the general public. Give it up, you are wasting your breath.

There isn't a chance in hell that the 15 utts and 2 collars a month you do cover your salary. Never has, never will. Try this piece of math. Open the contract and get your hourly for your step, multiply that by 8 or 10 if you are on the mids. Add in medical benefits, uniforms etc. If the dollar amt. returned directly to the county via arrests/summonses is less (which we both know it is) shut your pie hole. The job isn't designed to be cost effective. Most charges are ACOD or plead down. Ponder this little tidbit. Think of all of the collars you make and then compare the number of court appearances you make for those collars. I can safely say you probably appear in court about 1% of the time. Where do the rest of the cases go? ACOD and plead down to bs fines/probation. BTW any fees probationers pay for the priveledge of probation don't even begin to cover the costs of the Probation dept. either. The fines/surcharges collected by the courts go for the most part back to the state not the county. They are a drop in the bucket by comparison to the PD budget. Since when does a cop care one bit about the fact that some perp has to hire an attorney which costs the perp money. In case you are living under a rock attorneys don't kick back their earnings to the county directly (indirectly via campaign contributions to judges, DA etc.). The barking dog field, domestic you handle or MV104A you pen doesn't earn the county a dime. So stop deluding yourselves of this misconception. The way I see it if you want to cover your salary per shift you better make multiple collars and multiple misd. summonses per tour every tour. We all know that is impossible given the nature of the job since you are bouncing from BS call to BS call and having to back each other up for the calls that have the potential for needing more than one cop for safteties sake.

[you dont have to buy it]

Why do you waste your breathe explaining things to these message board know-it-alls? They cannot even grasp the concepts you are writing. No matter what you say, you are wrong. They conveniently hide behind the fact that theyare completely in the dark about law enforcement and the court system. You moron, probation is a privilege, not a right, as a convicted criminal, you are owned by the court system. You pay for your own drug tests, your appointments etc, not the general public. Give it up, you are wasting your breath.

There isn't a chance in hell that the 15 utts and 2 collars a month you do cover your salary. Never has, never will. Try this piece of math. Open the contract and get your hourly for your step, multiply that by 8 or 10 if you are on the mids. Add in medical benefits, uniforms etc. If the dollar amt. returned directly to the county via arrests/summonses is less (which we both know it is) shut your pie hole. The job isn't designed to be cost effective. Most charges are ACOD or plead down. Ponder this little tidbit. Think of all of the collars you make and then compare the number of court appearances you make for those collars. I can safely say you probably appear in court about 1% of the time. Where do the rest of the cases go? ACOD and plead down to bs fines/probation. BTW any fees probationers pay for the priveledge of probation don't even begin to cover the costs of the Probation dept. either. The fines/surcharges collected by the courts go for the most part back to the state not the county. They are a drop in the bucket by comparison to the PD budget. Since when does a cop care one bit about the fact that some perp has to hire an attorney which costs the perp money. In case you are living under a rock attorneys don't kick back their earnings to the county directly (indirectly via campaign contributions to judges, DA etc.). The barking dog field, domestic you handle or MV104A you pen doesn't earn the county a dime. So stop deluding yourselves of this misconception. The way I see it if you want to cover your salary per shift you better make multiple collars and multiple misd. summonses per tour every tour. We all know that is impossible given the nature of the job since you are bouncing from BS call to BS call and having to back each other up for the calls that have the potential for needing more than one cop for safteties sake.
15 utts? that was about 5 years ago son, 20 minimum, and 25 is average, as far as arrests go, I have about 2 a week, without trying mostly 911 calls, you'd better get a grip on reality.
Again the state REWARDS police depts, with grants and funding. The cases pled down still cost the perp. a 511 pled down to a unlicensed will cost the driver 200 bucks. A reckless pled down to a speed greater than reasonable will still cost the perp 150, a uninsured is a 500+ fine period. The average b/s harrassment violation will cost the perp 100+ bucks. I personally have never heard of any legit case being ACOD, that I've been involved in, all final dispositions have been guilty plea or a plea bargain, except informants or minors.
Last year I had a shade under 400 utts, and a bit over 50 arrests, I was 7th in my squad, 28 in my pct, and 102nd in suffolk pd, a little better than middle of the pack. that doesnt include COPE who write 100+ summons a month, and end the year with 100 arrests or any specialized units.
The money paid to lawyers is just to show how because of us, lawyers, judges, das, court officers have a job.
By the way on a mva when we call a tow, whom do you think the tow is paying for the exclusive right to come and tow a m/v from the accident. By our rules + procedures, we can be disciplined if we do not call a tow from our list and allow the involved party to use his own tow. The tow companies pay about 50k a year to be on our tow list. So we are making the county money on mvas.
Barking dog, how about a town/village summons for noise disturbance? Easy 50 bucks a pop.
Domestic disputes lead to referrals to domestic advocates, orders of protection, pins warrants, court appearances, court appointed counseling, all making money for the County.
You dont have a clue what you are talking about.

They are a drop in the bucket by comparison to the PD budget.
Say if you are so ''in the know'' tell me what the pd budget is.
You dont know because there isnt one, it operates as part of the general budget. When every year there is a surplus of the police taxes, the money is simply used by another dept of suffolk, school, fire, water, whatever.
Go ahead prove that wrong... you cannot.

Most charges are ACOD or plead down. Ponder this little tidbit. Think of all of the collars you make and then compare the number of court appearances you make for those collars. I can safely say you probably appear in court about 1% of the time. Where do the rest of the cases go? ACOD and plead down to bs fines/probation.
Yes and having a person show up in court 2-3 times and taking a plea and paying a couple 100-1000 dollars is far cheaper than a trial, where every cop working that day is called in on O/t to testify in court before a jury costing 30-40 grand after a week or two to find the suffolk taxpaying resident guilty of whatever and then having him pay 1500 bucks instead of 500.
Im surprised you didnt hit on the fact that when mr taxpayer serves time it costs money too.

We all know that is impossible given the nature of the job since you are bouncing from BS call to BS call and having to back each other up for the calls that have the potential for needing more than one cop for safteties sake
I dont know what you define as b/s calls, but as many ''b/s'' calls we get, are real calls, you may not care about someone else's wife, son or whatever getting beat up, in a mva with injuries, or getting hit by a dwi or stealing from them, or whatever, but if you think all we still do is save cats stuck in trees you are living in the 80-s

[Udontknowjack]

"By the way on a mva when we call a tow, whom do you think the tow is paying for the exclusive right to come and tow a m/v from the accident. By our rules + procedures, we can be disciplined if we do not call a tow from our list and allow the involved party to use his own tow. The tow companies pay about 50k a year to be on our tow list. So we are making the county money on mvas. "

The lists are generated and any monies received go to the TOWN not the PD, not the County. Hey genius, guess why the authorized and regulated tow lists came about? The lists are designed to guarantee that a monopoly doesn't exist or to prevent you the cop from deciding to give the tow to your brother/neighbor who owns a tow company. The reason the R&Ps exist about calling from the Town of Islip, Town of Babylon list etc. is to prevent you from getting involved in the allegation of impropriety.

As for the moron who keeps quoting how much in fines are collected for 511, 1192 etc. the lion share of the monies go to the state. If you are referring to the trickle down of STOP DWI monies, seat belt initiatives, Radar OT etc. these monies are extras that in no way cover the salaries of cops for general patrol functions. They go into a dedicated OT slush fund for use in specific directed patrol area (seatbelts, DWI, radar).

Again hero I don't care how many collars you make a month or how many tix you allegedly write for noise ordinances for barking dogs (which go to the local dist. ct. and the fines go to the town). Try this, follow every arrest you make for one month and find out what the dispo is. Get back to us with how shocked you are. Kinda like if you have more than a few years on the job, you make a collar call into central records to get the non computerized arrest records. If I had 5 bucks for every Robbery 1 plead down to dis con I'd have retired a long time ago. The Assault 2 on a PO plead down to harassment, etc. etc.

[Whatexactlyareyouarguing]

"By the way on a mva when we call a tow, whom do you think the tow is paying for the exclusive right to come and tow a m/v from the accident. By our rules + procedures, we can be disciplined if we do not call a tow from our list and allow the involved party to use his own tow. The tow companies pay about 50k a year to be on our tow list. So we are making the county money on mvas. "

The lists are generated and any monies received go to the TOWN not the PD, not the County. Hey genius, guess why the authorized and regulated tow lists came about? The lists are designed to guarantee that a monopoly doesn't exist or to prevent you the cop from deciding to give the tow to your brother/neighbor who owns a tow company. The reason the R&Ps exist about calling from the Town of Islip, Town of Babylon list etc. is to prevent you from getting involved in the allegation of impropriety.

As for the moron who keeps quoting how much in fines are collected for 511, 1192 etc. the lion share of the monies go to the state. If you are referring to the trickle down of STOP DWI monies, seat belt initiatives, Radar OT etc. these monies are extras that in no way cover the salaries of cops for general patrol functions. They go into a dedicated OT slush fund for use in specific directed patrol area (seatbelts, DWI, radar).

Again hero I don't care how many collars you make a month or how many tix you allegedly write for noise ordinances for barking dogs (which go to the local dist. ct. and the fines go to the town). Try this, follow every arrest you make for one month and find out what the dispo is. Get back to us with how shocked you are. Kinda like if you have more than a few years on the job, you make a collar call into central records to get the non computerized arrest records. If I had 5 bucks for every Robbery 1 plead down to dis con I'd have retired a long time ago. The Assault 2 on a PO plead down to harassment, etc. etc. Again shmuk no question the state gets the lion's share, of the summons written. Never argued that, but the county gets a portion and the county is rewarded for its activity and compliance with the states directives.
Again I never said the grants go to regular salary but in reality you know if they give command 110 x amount of bucks for safety check they command will use about 1/2 for the safety point and put it somewhere else, or instead of holding 4-5 cops on o/t they hold them out during their normal working hours on special assignment, double dipping if you would. kind of like how during the us open every hour of o/t was written to that event whether it was a committal, a mva, a arrest or whatever, the complaint # used was for the us open.
If you can read you will notice for the noise disturbance I wrote the town/ village, not the county, so why are you arguing?
I do follow the cases I've been on and every one of them that I didnt testify at were pled down or pled for a lighter sentence. As I've stated in every post, numbnuts. Again I never argued about pleas, I am glad the acod thing you were professing was the norm was dropped, nearly everything is plea bargained, it is cost effective and that is how the county makes out on arrests, it is cheaper to plea out a charge than go to trial, You are arguing points that I agree with you on dumbass. Please read the posts before you get on your high horse and feel so smart and special about yourself, and start your dissertation about the job ok mr below the median intelligence level?

Again hero I don't care how many collars you make a month or how many tix you allegedly write for noise ordinances for barking dogs (which go to the local dist. ct. and the fines go to the town). Try this, follow every arrest you make for one month and find out what the dispo is. Get back to us with how shocked you are. Kinda like if you have more than a few years on the job, you make a collar call into central records to get the non computerized arrest records. If I had 5 bucks for every Robbery 1 plead down to dis con I'd have retired a long time ago. The Assault 2 on a PO plead down to harassment, etc. etc.
Yeah this has been repeated about 50 xs maybe you should read the entire thread before you attempt to enlighten us with your knowledge. Also if you read, the poster stated his stats were about average, not even top 100 in the county, it sounds to me like if you actually are a cop, the job has passed you by, maybe you should have retired a long time ago, but I guess sitting on your fat ass hiring tows off the accident list, and sucking up to the lt and desk sarge are the highlites of your life. I'm betting you are one of those ''Lite duty'' for life morons, cant even do prints or photos for the real, working cop.

u people are funny. bottom line. the police budget is the same percentage of the total sufolk county budget as it was in 1975. no more no less. if people want to stop payin police tax, stop acting like savages, and calling the police for bullshiit. then we will neeed less police to answer the nonsense calls that u people are calling for. so instead of sitting here and badmouthing the police look at yourselves u savages.

[XPky601]

[quote="Taxpayer 2005"]It cost me $800 last year for them and their $100,000 paychecks just so they can sit on their ass in the firehouse parking lot.

First of all if you check the stats (summonses, arrests, etc.) for SCPD you'll probably find that there wasn't much time for anyone to sit on his/her ass anywhere, and if they were they were most likely completing paperwork.

As far as your $800 is concerned, that works out to a total of $2.19 per day, probably only about $.70 per day more than your average alarm company charges. If you're so worked up over paying $2.19 a day for police services why don't you figure out how much your paying for school taxes? Be realistic, with other factors like illegal housing, undocumented workers, and school enrollment constantly growing as a result of the aforementioned you should concentrate your tax complaints in a different direction. A little over 2 bucks a day is cheap for police services.

[Trollthis]

U people have nothing better to do. Stats are just coming into play as the "Reformer" tightens the "NUTS" complements of the C/E. Look for fat butt paper pushers working the streets this summer. It's the tax payer’s money jerks! We expect it spent wisely. There are other accounts that the SCPD gets there money from. Please.....go back to law school, so you have some knowledge with your attitude. The PD sucks up grants, contributions and "Other related" accounts for its expenses. (maybe some just a bit unethical?) Anyway, seems they called all the boys in on this one. Logical sense does not apply here. See ya all at the next meeting.

why is everyone so jealous of suffolk cops. i never knew of this jealousy. how come we dont have a website for the electrician who made $150,000 last year. wheres the website for the town highway guy who made 120,000. there isnt cause all u losers are jealous cause u all wanna be suffolk cops. go get a life and stop calling the police to handle your problems.

[pattiwillbeatherkids]

U people have nothing better to do. Stats are just coming into play as the "Reformer" tightens the "NUTS" complements of the C/E. Look for fat butt paper pushers working the streets this summer. It's the tax payer’s money jerks! We expect it spent wisely. There are other accounts that the SCPD gets there money from. Please.....go back to law school, so you have some knowledge with your attitude. The PD sucks up grants, contributions and "Other related" accounts for its expenses. (maybe some just a bit unethical?) Anyway, seems they called all the boys in on this one. Logical sense does not apply here. See ya all at the next meeting.funny when i started 12 years ago 8 summons, and a body was fine, now the patrol officers are being asked for 20 minimum plus at least a body. Stats have always been a part of police work and there is no coincidence that as our salaries climb so do our quota. Someone posted that police work isnt intended to make money, but the politicians had other ideas.
Whats funny is the ''fat pencil pushers'' like myself that are scheduled to work the street, are on vacation the majority of the summer(privilege that comes with seniority), and the first call I receive where I am not properly trained, example my emt certificate expired 1999, I will advise hqs that I cannot respond. At that point all the inservice training that I need will be apparent, and the patrol supervisors will either have to send me and about 70 other substandard officers, that I personally know, to the academy, along with some of the academy instructors to recertify us in the various fields, or call it a day and put us back behind our comfy chairs.
Again where your money goes is between you and the suffolk county gov't, not me the lowly police officer. My salary is recorded daily and filed for tax purposes. I'll tell you this, you take the money the officers make for the county, the grants and what not paid to the county, the taxes paid by all the taxpayers of suffolk county, and you have a lot more money than our dept costs to run.

[chatti patti]

U people have nothing better to do. Stats are just coming into play as the "Reformer" tightens the "NUTS" complements of the C/E. Look for fat butt paper pushers working the streets this summer. It's the tax payer’s money jerks! We expect it spent wisely. There are other accounts that the SCPD gets there money from. Please.....go back to law school, so you have some knowledge with your attitude. The PD sucks up grants, contributions and "Other related" accounts for its expenses. (maybe some just a bit unethical?) Anyway, seems they called all the boys in on this one. Logical sense does not apply here. See ya all at the next meeting.
What school did you graduate from, beat your daughter, chase your husband, sissify you son resist arrest and make a complete ass of yourself on every website in the world, school?

U people have nothing better to do. Stats are just coming into play as the "Reformer" tightens the "NUTS" complements of the C/E. Look for fat butt paper pushers working the streets this summer. It's the tax payer’s money jerks! We expect it spent wisely. There are other accounts that the SCPD gets there money from. Please.....go back to law school, so you have some knowledge with your attitude. The PD sucks up grants, contributions and "Other related" accounts for its expenses. (maybe some just a bit unethical?) Anyway, seems they called all the boys in on this one. Logical sense does not apply here. See ya all at the next meeting. you mean dormer who is on his way out and being held responsible for the whole''let shut down cars and see what happens'' experiment, that has completely turned all of Huntington liberals, democrats, green piece party, even the criminals against little stevie? Your admiration for the c/e is noticed on every post you scrawl, your knight in shining armor has failed at every venture against the Scpd. Taking cops off desk jobs for the summer, leaves me wondering, when was the last time this guy patrolled, can he operate the new computer system in the vehicle, does he know what a domestic is, how many months of training is he going to need( at taxpayers expense) to be ready for patrol? If a desk job guy flops intentionally on a few calls, will the experiment end? If these guys all have the monday to friday schedule, when they work our chart, will they end up with additional(O.T.) days at the end of the year? And as the other poster mentioned, if all these people have all this time on the job, and get summer vacation, how are they going to work?
I notice on one press release little stevie brags how he put desk-types in cars adding patrol, he failed to mention most of them ''road along'' doubled up with a regular patrol officer, and if it was a real call, never left the car, ha, thats your hero for you.

It's the tax payer’s money jerks! We expect it spent wisely.
Hey how about how mr reformer decided to change our field book, right after every pct had a shipment of the old one? That move cost you jerks..i mean taxpayers 25k. Thats pretty wise, what do you think will happen to the 25k of obsolete forms?
The new uniforms being given to supplant the old, while there are 1000s of old ones still in our quartermaster, collecting dust, paid for, never to be used.
the 100k computer system in every newer pct squad room that has never been used.
Lets not even get into the quality equipment the county has purchased, the million dollar helicopters that cant fly is just the tip of the ice berg.

[Trollthis]

Not only can the "Foot solider" not cope with the waste, their management "Team" can't contain costs. Stop Municipal waste, FEDERAL/STATE investigate NOW!

Not only can the "Foot solider" not cope with the waste, their management "Team" can't contain costs. Stop Municipal waste, FEDERAL/STATE investigate NOW!
What exactly is a solider?
If you think the county is bad, the state is 3x worse.
The feds pay 4.00 for a 3/4 inch screw u get at home depot for .10 cents,
stupid ass

Not only can the "Foot solider" not cope with the waste, their management "Team" can't contain costs. Stop Municipal waste, FEDERAL/STATE investigate NOW!
Don't hold your breathe, honey.
Better chance for you to reunite with your estranged daughter that the county being investigated.

[wishy-washy]

U people have nothing better to do. Stats are just coming into play as the "Reformer" tightens the "NUTS" complements of the C/E. Look for fat butt paper pushers working the streets this summer. It's the tax payer’s money jerks! We expect it spent wisely. There are other accounts that the SCPD gets there money from. Please.....go back to law school, so you have some knowledge with your attitude. The PD sucks up grants, contributions and "Other related" accounts for its expenses. (maybe some just a bit unethical?) Anyway, seems they called all the boys in on this one. Logical sense does not apply here. See ya all at the next meeting.Speaking of logic, how do you go from this post, vaunting the accomplishments of the current admin, to this Trollthis Posted: Tue Apr 19, 2005 10:29 am

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Not only can the "Foot solider" not cope with the waste, their management "Team" can't contain costs. Stop Municipal waste, FEDERAL/STATE investigate NOW!

In less than 24 hours?
You havent any clue what you are talking about, you wonder why not one person takes you seriously.

[just a cop]

yes we do get paid well we also pay taxes, and if you want to complain about our salaries, i invite you to take the test strap on a gun belt and a vest and put YOUR life on the line and you can make a good salary too.

yes we do get paid well we also pay taxes, and if you want to complain about our salaries, i invite you to take the test strap on a gun belt and a vest and put YOUR life on the line and you can make a good salary too.In a normal society, these things would earn you some respect, but on long island, it gets you nothing people out here simply dont care. This island is too self absorbed and cannot stand seeing anyone doing well. Especially when they have to pay them.
We arent people to them,just nameless, faceless badge #s, pigeonholed forever as sitting in the firehouse not doing anything.
It is far easier to keep that image alive, than to admit, Long Island is full of self important, whats in it for me, get out of my way, whining over their beer/ cocaine people. And thats not including the savages running around offing each other, or beating their wives/husbands/children.

[XPky601]

That's hitting the nail on the head. No one cares. The average citizen has no problem throwing a 5 pound bag of fast food waste out the window of his/her moving vehicle but as soon as they see someone toss a bottlecap on their lawn they want to pick up the nearest heavy object and heave it through the person's windshield. No one sees anything unless a big mass of misery whacks them upside the head and then "there's never a cop around...". Heaven forbid you're on duty and someone sees you in a deli ordering a sandwich ... " the friggin' cop was in the deli again", like you're not supposed to get hungry anymore. People resent being told what to do when they screw up (unintentionally or otherwise). Issue them a summons and sometimes it's like you're performing amateur root canal on them. Unless everything in your life is perfect maybe you should concentrate more on improving your situation instead of denigrating and insulting people you don't even know.

That's hitting the nail on the head. No one cares. The average citizen has no problem throwing a 5 pound bag of fast food waste out the window of his/her moving vehicle but as soon as they see someone toss a bottlecap on their lawn they want to pick up the nearest heavy object and heave it through the person's windshield.
Or they want him arrested for harassing their lawn, and demand a supervisor when you refuse. Quickly followed by the civilian complaint. Next thing you know lawsuit.
Ahh Aint Long Island beautiful.

That's hitting the nail on the head. No one cares. The average citizen has no problem throwing a 5 pound bag of fast food waste out the window of his/her moving vehicle but as soon as they see someone toss a bottlecap on their lawn they want to pick up the nearest heavy object and heave it through the person's windshield.
Or they want him arrested for harassing their lawn, and demand a supervisor when you refuse. Quickly followed by the civilian complaint. Next thing you know lawsuit.
Ahh Aint Long Island beautiful.
Yes it is. With all the frivolous complaints, it is almost assumed the next complaint will be the same. Iab doesnt even take civilians seriously anymore. Kind of fitting based on the sampling of the typical whining suffolk county trash posting here.

[simpson2]

At the outset, I am a supporter of our schools, police and other employees that provide our services, I am involved in the Fire Service as well, With that said, I am concerned with the cost of taxes for our schools, police and fire services, I am not being critical for anyone making money. All provide valuable services, teachers, police and fire service, I want the best for my family. The problem we have as taxpayers on long Island is that we are all taxed beyond our means, Simply said a good salary of 100k gets you no where on Long Island. and the salaries are not keeping pace with the costs. So everyone attempts to Bash the police, fire departments and schools for what they make. yes there are bad apples in every group we all have them in our businesses, but the real problem is that we need to correct the system, New York State is broke, both financially and the way it operates, We need to stop bashing each other and attack the way the state taxes us in every possible way, email your state leg or state senators, they need to change the system, Every other state pays less or no state income taxes pays 1/3 the cost of our real estate taxes, families have more money in the bank and they are happier, If we, (you) are planning on staying on Long Island we need to change the system otherwise our children will never live here and the costs will force all of us to move once we are retired, If you look at eveerything objectively, the schools do pay teachers good salaries, but if you were a teacher, don't you need 85k to survive on Long Island, Same for the police. The fire service is volunteer, but there is the LOSAP, insurances etc, I commend those giving their time , but that system is changing as well to paid ems people, a Paid fire service is not that far off in the future, I request you to lean on your legislators, if we all had lower taxes then our lives would not be as stressful and we would not target others whom we think are doing better on our dollar, Yes each system needs oversight, to curtail excessive or abusive spending, But the programs cannot be cut, to Save money does not mean, cutting the number of police working when our population is larger than it has even been or to cut teachers when the schools are exploding, One suggestion that I have seen is to change the RE tax for school, police and fire funding to an income tax on the state level, it would lowere each homeowners tax by 1/2 at the same costs now, Fixed income residents would not be in situations of losing their homes, and illegal renters who provide many students in our schools without paying for it would pay, as would the illegal apartment owners, and NYC would finally bear the cost of its schools, Most people do not realize that NYC pays the least amount of money towards its own schools, yet wants 5.6 billion from the State, come on , Basically, lets try to change the system otherwise we are going no where. .

[I agree!!]

At the outset, I am a supporter of our schools, police and other employees that provide our services, I am involved in the Fire Service as well, With that said, I am concerned with the cost of taxes for our schools, police and fire services, I am not being critical for anyone making money. All provide valuable services, teachers, police and fire service, I want the best for my family. The problem we have as taxpayers on long Island is that we are all taxed beyond our means, Simply said a good salary of 100k gets you no where on Long Island. and the salaries are not keeping pace with the costs. So everyone attempts to Bash the police, fire departments and schools for what they make. yes there are bad apples in every group we all have them in our businesses, but the real problem is that we need to correct the system, New York State is broke, both financially and the way it operates, We need to stop bashing each other and attack the way the state taxes us in every possible way, email your state leg or state senators, they need to change the system, Every other state pays less or no state income taxes pays 1/3 the cost of our real estate taxes, families have more money in the bank and they are happier, If we, (you) are planning on staying on Long Island we need to change the system otherwise our children will never live here and the costs will force all of us to move once we are retired, If you look at eveerything objectively, the schools do pay teachers good salaries, but if you were a teacher, don't you need 85k to survive on Long Island, Same for the police. The fire service is volunteer, but there is the LOSAP, insurances etc, I commend those giving their time , but that system is changing as well to paid ems people, a Paid fire service is not that far off in the future, I request you to lean on your legislators, if we all had lower taxes then our lives would not be as stressful and we would not target others whom we think are doing better on our dollar, Yes each system needs oversight, to curtail excessive or abusive spending, But the programs cannot be cut, to Save money does not mean, cutting the number of police working when our population is larger than it has even been or to cut teachers when the schools are exploding, One suggestion that I have seen is to change the RE tax for school, police and fire funding to an income tax on the state level, it would lowere each homeowners tax by 1/2 at the same costs now, Fixed income residents would not be in situations of losing their homes, and illegal renters who provide many students in our schools without paying for it would pay, as would the illegal apartment owners, and NYC would finally bear the cost of its schools, Most people do not realize that NYC pays the least amount of money towards its own schools, yet wants 5.6 billion from the State, come on , Basically, lets try to change the system otherwise we are going no where. .
The problem isnt the pay for the workers, ie police or teachers, its the miscellaneous expenses of every dept. The salaries paid to the employees arent that out of line with what is considered the norm on long island. Look at the 911 operators, they make 50 grand. Probably have to work a 2nd job or their spouse works as well. 50 k is a decent salary for what they do, but its barely manageable to survive on l.i.
The salaries of these workers arent going down, they are locked in and will continue to rise, no way around it.But the way these depts spend money(ours) should be monitored more closely. If schools are getting caught messing with our money, certainly so are other depts, police, fire, electric or what have you.

At the outset, I am a supporter of our schools, police and other employees that provide our services, I am involved in the Fire Service as well, With that said, I am concerned with the cost of taxes for our schools, police and fire services, I am not being critical for anyone making money. All provide valuable services, teachers, police and fire service, I want the best for my family. The problem we have as taxpayers on long Island is that we are all taxed beyond our means, Simply said a good salary of 100k gets you no where on Long Island. and the salaries are not keeping pace with the costs. So everyone attempts to Bash the police, fire departments and schools for what they make. yes there are bad apples in every group we all have them in our businesses, but the real problem is that we need to correct the system, New York State is broke, both financially and the way it operates, We need to stop bashing each other and attack the way the state taxes us in every possible way, email your state leg or state senators, they need to change the system, Every other state pays less or no state income taxes pays 1/3 the cost of our real estate taxes, families have more money in the bank and they are happier, If we, (you) are planning on staying on Long Island we need to change the system otherwise our children will never live here and the costs will force all of us to move once we are retired, If you look at eveerything objectively, the schools do pay teachers good salaries, but if you were a teacher, don't you need 85k to survive on Long Island, Same for the police. The fire service is volunteer, but there is the LOSAP, insurances etc, I commend those giving their time , but that system is changing as well to paid ems people, a Paid fire service is not that far off in the future, I request you to lean on your legislators, if we all had lower taxes then our lives would not be as stressful and we would not target others whom we think are doing better on our dollar, Yes each system needs oversight, to curtail excessive or abusive spending, But the programs cannot be cut, to Save money does not mean, cutting the number of police working when our population is larger than it has even been or to cut teachers when the schools are exploding, One suggestion that I have seen is to change the RE tax for school, police and fire funding to an income tax on the state level, it would lowere each homeowners tax by 1/2 at the same costs now, Fixed income residents would not be in situations of losing their homes, and illegal renters who provide many students in our schools without paying for it would pay, as would the illegal apartment owners, and NYC would finally bear the cost of its schools, Most people do not realize that NYC pays the least amount of money towards its own schools, yet wants 5.6 billion from the State, come on , Basically, lets try to change the system otherwise we are going no where. .
The problem isnt the pay for the workers, ie police or teachers, its the miscellaneous expenses of every dept. The salaries paid to the employees arent that out of line with what is considered the norm on long island. Look at the 911 operators, they make 50 grand. Probably have to work a 2nd job or their spouse works as well. 50 k is a decent salary for what they do, but its barely manageable to survive on l.i.
The salaries of these workers arent going down, they are locked in and will continue to rise, no way around it.But the way these depts spend money(ours) should be monitored more closely. If schools are getting caught messing with our money, certainly so are other depts, police, fire, electric or what have you.

Sure and when you have patronage waste ala the top heavy rank structure of the police department as well as all of the extra assistants a certain incumbent CE has put in place. Blue shirted Police Officers respond to crimes and emergencies, not the extra Lt.s, Deputy Inpectors and Inspectors in place in every pct. not to mention the F'ups who are the full bird Inspectors in charge of the broom closets in HQ. I am not referring to the blue shirted Sgt. in the pct.s who are out on the road directly supervising the cops who do the work either, their presence is needed more so now than ever. The city has a captain maybe a Deputy Inspector in charge of a pct. not here to the East, we have multiple extra Lts. for special operations, administration, crime control etc. followed by a Captain, Deputy Inspector and a full Inspector. We won't even go into political appointments made outside the PD by other County law enforcement officials for loyalty during ones campaign. It's funny Internal Affairs in the city utilizes mostly detectives managed by a few supervisors. Not out East, the ranks of IA are Sgt., Lt., Captain, D.Insp and Inspector. More waste and abuse of funds that could be utilized to fund patrol functions. If a certain incumbent CE had addressed these issues he wouldn't have been so embroiled in the flawed debacle of having to defend his attempt to cut back patrol cars. Heres another great idea. Whats good for the goose is good for the gander, install laptops and vehicle locating devices in the unmarked and take home vehicles (no I don't mean the undercover vehicles). Lets see where the vehicle fleet really is. Print out a database and have the CE or one of his extra assistants he had to hire examine each vehicles usage to determine if it's mostly being used for commuting or travelling to night school, etc.

Lets examine a few other sacred cows, lets go after the waste fraud, abuse nepotism and no show jobs in lets say the board of elections, water authority and OTB. The tax/ratepayer would freak if they knew the amount of no show/political appointees in those countyesque related agencies.

At the outset, I am a supporter of our schools, police and other employees that provide our services, I am involved in the Fire Service as well, With that said, I am concerned with the cost of taxes for our schools, police and fire services, I am not being critical for anyone making money. All provide valuable services, teachers, police and fire service, I want the best for my family. The problem we have as taxpayers on long Island is that we are all taxed beyond our means, Simply said a good salary of 100k gets you no where on Long Island. and the salaries are not keeping pace with the costs. So everyone attempts to Bash the police, fire departments and schools for what they make. yes there are bad apples in every group we all have them in our businesses, but the real problem is that we need to correct the system, New York State is broke, both financially and the way it operates, We need to stop bashing each other and attack the way the state taxes us in every possible way, email your state leg or state senators, they need to change the system, Every other state pays less or no state income taxes pays 1/3 the cost of our real estate taxes, families have more money in the bank and they are happier, If we, (you) are planning on staying on Long Island we need to change the system otherwise our children will never live here and the costs will force all of us to move once we are retired, If you look at eveerything objectively, the schools do pay teachers good salaries, but if you were a teacher, don't you need 85k to survive on Long Island, Same for the police. The fire service is volunteer, but there is the LOSAP, insurances etc, I commend those giving their time , but that system is changing as well to paid ems people, a Paid fire service is not that far off in the future, I request you to lean on your legislators, if we all had lower taxes then our lives would not be as stressful and we would not target others whom we think are doing better on our dollar, Yes each system needs oversight, to curtail excessive or abusive spending, But the programs cannot be cut, to Save money does not mean, cutting the number of police working when our population is larger than it has even been or to cut teachers when the schools are exploding, One suggestion that I have seen is to change the RE tax for school, police and fire funding to an income tax on the state level, it would lowere each homeowners tax by 1/2 at the same costs now, Fixed income residents would not be in situations of losing their homes, and illegal renters who provide many students in our schools without paying for it would pay, as would the illegal apartment owners, and NYC would finally bear the cost of its schools, Most people do not realize that NYC pays the least amount of money towards its own schools, yet wants 5.6 billion from the State, come on , Basically, lets try to change the system otherwise we are going no where. .
The problem isnt the pay for the workers, ie police or teachers, its the miscellaneous expenses of every dept. The salaries paid to the employees arent that out of line with what is considered the norm on long island. Look at the 911 operators, they make 50 grand. Probably have to work a 2nd job or their spouse works as well. 50 k is a decent salary for what they do, but its barely manageable to survive on l.i.
The salaries of these workers arent going down, they are locked in and will continue to rise, no way around it.But the way these depts spend money(ours) should be monitored more closely. If schools are getting caught messing with our money, certainly so are other depts, police, fire, electric or what have you.

Sure and when you have patronage waste ala the top heavy rank structure of the police department as well as all of the extra assistants a certain incumbent CE has put in place. Blue shirted Police Officers respond to crimes and emergencies, not the extra Lt.s, Deputy Inpectors and Inspectors in place in every pct. not to mention the F'ups who are the full bird Inspectors in charge of the broom closets in HQ. I am not referring to the blue shirted Sgt. in the pct.s who are out on the road directly supervising the cops who do the work either, their presence is needed more so now than ever. The city has a captain maybe a Deputy Inspector in charge of a pct. not here to the East, we have multiple extra Lts. for special operations, administration, crime control etc. followed by a Captain, Deputy Inspector and a full Inspector. We won't even go into political appointments made outside the PD by other County law enforcement officials for loyalty during ones campaign. It's funny Internal Affairs in the city utilizes mostly detectives managed by a few supervisors. Not out East, the ranks of IA are Sgt., Lt., Captain, D.Insp and Inspector. More waste and abuse of funds that could be utilized to fund patrol functions. If a certain incumbent CE had addressed these issues he wouldn't have been so embroiled in the flawed debacle of having to defend his attempt to cut back patrol cars. Heres another great idea. Whats good for the goose is good for the gander, install laptops and vehicle locating devices in the unmarked and take home vehicles (no I don't mean the undercover vehicles). Lets see where the vehicle fleet really is. Print out a database and have the CE or one of his extra assistants he had to hire examine each vehicles usage to determine if it's mostly being used for commuting or travelling to night school, etc.

Lets examine a few other sacred cows, lets go after the waste fraud, abuse nepotism and no show jobs in lets say the board of elections, water authority and OTB. The tax/ratepayer would freak if they knew the amount of no show/political appointees in those countyesque related agencies.Thanks for the intelligent, educated remarks, but;
Thats too much work for the average uneducated troll on this board. It is easier and more fun to go after cops. Besides the inspectors and political types dont respond back giving the troll the attention their parents never did.

[Trollthis]

Thanks, This is just another area we can bring to his attention. Thanks for your input. Maybe the DA would be interested too. :D

[Right on cue]

Thanks, This is just another area we can bring to his attention. Thanks for your input. Maybe the DA would be interested too. :D
Yeah right the da is deeper in the pockets of the county than your beloved c.e. No one cares troll, as long as they get theirs and you waste you time on police message boards.
you are exactly the ones we are talking about.

Thanks, This is just another area we can bring to his attention. Thanks for your input. Maybe the DA would be interested too. :D
You are clueless.Whose friends, relatives, neighbors do you think fills those jobs. I personally know of 1 relative of someone who is involved in the day to day running of our county who is on the park payroll, and has never even shown up for work!!!Imagine being 24 years old making 28000 for a year and never leaving your house, at leastnot towork.
And I'm willing to bet other stories top that one easily.
All under the ''watchful'' eye of our county exec.

Thanks, This is just another area we can bring to his attention. Thanks for your input. Maybe the DA would be interested too. :D
You are clueless.Whose friends, relatives, neighbors do you think fills those jobs. I personally know of 1 relative of someone who is involved in the day to day running of our county who is on the park payroll, and has never even shown up for work!!!Imagine being 24 years old making 28000 for a year and never leaving your house, at leastnot towork.
And I'm willing to bet other stories top that one easily.
All under the ''watchful'' eye of our county exec.
You mean T.S.? Hes not 24 and he makes closer to 40,000.

[Trollthis]

Just because you have your top notch cop jobs does not entitle you to premium county benefits like having relatives in lots of positions through out the county, show or no show, bonehead.(although, 95% of have ties to every inspector, chief and dickehead in the department) Do your twenty years and pay your dues! Get your pension and get lost. Some of us have to work the system, like who you know and blow. My knees! U dicks are so hell bent of F&*^& each other it's poetic. It's good to be king and queen, under and over the desk!

[not police posistions]

Just because you have your top notch cop jobs does not entitle you to premium county benefits like having relatives in lots of positions through out the county, show or no show, bonehead.(although, 95% of have ties to every inspector, chief and dickehead in the department) Do your twenty years and pay your dues! Get your pension and get lost. Some of us have to work the system, like who you know and blow. My knees! U dicks are so hell bent of F&*^& each other it's poetic. It's good to be king and queen, under and over the desk!
You dont even get it.Reread the posts,. Aperson involved in the day to day running of the county, isnt a cop, its not even a Inspector or Chief. No mention of cops or cops relatives in that post. You are just so obsessed with cops you imagined it was cops. The world doesnt revovled around cops. Im not a cop, I have no connection to cops.
These arent cops relatives, these are relatives of folks working for the C.E. or for the County. There arent any exams for some of these jobs, unlike a police test, and not all of them are posted. and no never heard of t.s, try D.F.

Just because you have your top notch cop jobs does not entitle you to premium county benefits like having relatives in lots of positions through out the county, show or no show, bonehead.(although, 95% of have ties to every inspector, chief and dickehead in the department) Do your twenty years and pay your dues! Get your pension and get lost. Some of us have to work the system, like who you know and blow. My knees! U dicks are so hell bent of F&*^& each other it's poetic. It's good to be king and queen, under and over the desk!
You dont even get it.Reread the posts,. Aperson involved in the day to day running of the county, isnt a cop, its not even a Inspector or Chief. No mention of cops or cops relatives in that post. You are just so obsessed with cops you imagined it was cops. The world doesnt revovled around cops. Im not a cop, I have no connection to cops.
These arent cops relatives, these are relatives of folks working for the C.E. or for the County. There arent any exams for some of these jobs, unlike a police test, and not all of them are posted. and no never heard of t.s, try D.F.
Dont you know people....I'm sorry the trolls stalking this thread just assume everything bad is cops.Why read the post and see it clearly states '' someone who is involved in the day to day running of our county who is on the park payroll, and has never even " Why bother reading it and responding to the context of it when the taxpaying troll can simply take another ignorant uneducated shot at the ''dolittle overpaid police that never leave the parking lot of the firehouse". As if that isnt the biggest joke, you know as a scpd training officer I tell all my trainees, if you have a main road in your sector, you will have at least one accident a day, one road rage, drunk driver call, and reckless driver call a day.If you have houses in your sector, you will get a tenant /landlord dispute, 1 neighbor/neighbor dispute one committal, one dirtbike/quad/ noise/dog complaint every day.Then you have to play marriage counselor to a few couples trying to kill each other, and family counselor to a few families, and of course drug counselor to a few 12 year olds. Usually all of these at the same exact houses, corners etc. Then there are the real police calls.......
Anyhow getting back to the county hook, the administrative assistant to the financial advisor to the assistant counselor of the suffolk highway dept has more pull getting her son that cake county job, than I ever could in the pd, my kids still have to take the test, pass it and do well enough to be called, then pass the background check, then get thru the academy. I cant just call the county like some folks over in the county offices

[Troll this]

Just because you have your top notch cop jobs does not entitle you to premium county benefits like having relatives in lots of positions through out the county, show or no show, bonehead.(although, 95% of have ties to every inspector, chief and dickehead in the department) Do your twenty years and pay your dues! Get your pension and get lost. Some of us have to work the system, like who you know and blow. My knees! U dicks are so hell bent of F&*^& each other it's poetic. It's good to be king and queen, under and over the desk!
You dont even get it.Reread the posts,. Aperson involved in the day to day running of the county, isnt a cop, its not even a Inspector or Chief. No mention of cops or cops relatives in that post. You are just so obsessed with cops you imagined it was cops. The world doesnt revovled around cops. Im not a cop, I have no connection to cops.
These arent cops relatives, these are relatives of folks working for the C.E. or for the County. There arent any exams for some of these jobs, unlike a police test, and not all of them are posted. and no never heard of t.s, try D.F.
Dont you know people....I'm sorry the trolls stalking this thread just assume everything bad is cops.Why read the post and see it clearly states '' someone who is involved in the day to day running of our county who is on the park payroll, and has never even " Why bother reading it and responding to the context of it when the taxpaying troll can simply take another ignorant uneducated shot at the ''dolittle overpaid police that never leave the parking lot of the firehouse". As if that isnt the biggest joke, you know as a scpd training officer I tell all my trainees, if you have a main road in your sector, you will have at least one accident a day, one road rage, drunk driver call, and reckless driver call a day.If you have houses in your sector, you will get a tenant /landlord dispute, 1 neighbor/neighbor dispute one committal, one dirtbike/quad/ noise/dog complaint every day.Then you have to play marriage counselor to a few couples trying to kill each other, and family counselor to a few families, and of course drug counselor to a few 12 year olds. Usually all of these at the same exact houses, corners etc. Then there are the real police calls.......
Anyhow getting back to the county hook, the administrative assistant to the financial advisor to the assistant counselor of the suffolk highway dept has more pull getting her son that cake county job, than I ever could in the pd, my kids still have to take the test, pass it and do well enough to be called, then pass the background check, then get thru the academy. I cant just call the county like some folks over in the county offices
guys you must be new here its edp patti, trolling the cops because she ruined her life. Its all our fault, dontchya know?

[Guesswho]

[quote=Taxpayer 2005]It cost me $800 last year for them and their $100,000 paychecks just so they can sit on their ass in the firehouse parking lot.

First of all if you check the stats (summonses, arrests, etc.) for SCPD you'll probably find that there wasn't much time for anyone to sit on his/her ass anywhere, and if they were they were most likely completing paperwork.

As far as your $800 is concerned, that works out to a total of $2.19 per day, probably only about $.70 per day more than your average alarm company charges. If you're so worked up over paying $2.19 a day for police services why don't you figure out how much your paying for school taxes? Be realistic, with other factors like illegal housing, undocumented workers, and school enrollment constantly growing as a result of the aforementioned you should concentrate your tax complaints in a different direction. A little over 2 bucks a day is cheap for police services.

What about the big bucks the police department gets from the State of New York and the Feds, where did you think that money came from, that comes from the taxpayers.

[Guesswho]

It cost me $800 last year for them and their $100,000 paychecks just so they can sit on their ass in the firehouse parking lot.

How much does it take to run the force for a whole year? All expenses included.
been thru this 100s of times,- the 800 you pay goes into the general tax till, what is needed is used the rest goes to other areas, schools, highways etc.
The generalized reference of cops sitting in firehouses/parkinglots has also been a running theme. the amount of calls for service compared to patrol officers is ridiculous.
And the theme that a average cop makes more money for the county, state, village with his meet the minimum stats,(I.E. tickets and arrests) and there are many cops who are well above the minimum, has also been repeated ad infinitum.
Finally the theme that if you are having trouble affording your taxes......... move! they are not going down, and if your income isnt going up drastically anytime soon, you might as well leave, before it gets too expensive for you to remain.
ok troll?

Everyone who puts their hard earn pay into the general tax till has the right to question how their money is being spent whether you like it or not. It's not your job to belittle them on here or in public. Or tell them to move, either. They have every right to inquire about the wasting of tax dollars. So suck it up and do your job if you can not deal with that. If you can't handle it in a professional manner, then find yourself another form of employment better suited to your needs.
Gee, is that this thread was? Sounds like 40 or 50 other posts about the wonderland of l.i. where cops never do anything because there is no crime, accidents, reports, etc and they just sit in the firehouse. Other than a few, very few north shore areas, that myth has been gone for about 15 years.
Its not anyones job to start a thread belittling us and telling us we dont do anything. If this was supposed to be a serious thread, it got off to a trollish bash cops start, so now thats what it is.
It is all your jobs as a citizens of Suffolk to pay your taxes, so you suck it up and you do your jobs. If all of you cannot handle it, then you all need to find another form of employment better suited to pay your taxes. Or you can move.
If you reserve the right to tell us we sit on our asses, I reserve the right to tell you to move. This isnt the complaint dept of Levys fallen regime, this is a public message board, I can post whatever I want.

You can post what you want but your still an ass because if a taxpayer questions waste in the PD department, it's in your best interest. That is, if you are a PD.

It cost me $800 last year for them and their $100,000 paychecks just so they can sit on their ass in the firehouse parking lot.

How much does it take to run the force for a whole year? All expenses included.
been thru this 100s of times,- the 800 you pay goes into the general tax till, what is needed is used the rest goes to other areas, schools, highways etc.
The generalized reference of cops sitting in firehouses/parkinglots has also been a running theme. the amount of calls for service compared to patrol officers is ridiculous.
And the theme that a average cop makes more money for the county, state, village with his meet the minimum stats,(I.E. tickets and arrests) and there are many cops who are well above the minimum, has also been repeated ad infinitum.
Finally the theme that if you are having trouble affording your taxes......... move! they are not going down, and if your income isnt going up drastically anytime soon, you might as well leave, before it gets too expensive for you to remain.
ok troll?

Everyone who puts their hard earn pay into the general tax till has the right to question how their money is being spent whether you like it or not. It's not your job to belittle them on here or in public. Or tell them to move, either. They have every right to inquire about the wasting of tax dollars. So suck it up and do your job if you can not deal with that. If you can't handle it in a professional manner, then find yourself another form of employment better suited to your needs.
Gee, is that this thread was? Sounds like 40 or 50 other posts about the wonderland of l.i. where cops never do anything because there is no crime, accidents, reports, etc and they just sit in the firehouse. Other than a few, very few north shore areas, that myth has been gone for about 15 years.
Its not anyones job to start a thread belittling us and telling us we dont do anything. If this was supposed to be a serious thread, it got off to a trollish bash cops start, so now thats what it is.
It is all your jobs as a citizens of Suffolk to pay your taxes, so you suck it up and you do your jobs. If all of you cannot handle it, then you all need to find another form of employment better suited to pay your taxes. Or you can move.
If you reserve the right to tell us we sit on our asses, I reserve the right to tell you to move. This isnt the complaint dept of Levys fallen regime, this is a public message board, I can post whatever I want.

You can post what you want but your still an ass because if a taxpayer questions waste in the PD department, it's in your best interest. That is, if you are a PD.
tell me exactly how someone can be a pd?
Do you mean a p.o.?
either way, not my job. I'm not a accountant or a politician, just a cop.

[quote=Taxpayer 2005]It cost me $800 last year for them and their $100,000 paychecks just so they can sit on their ass in the firehouse parking lot.

First of all if you check the stats (summonses, arrests, etc.) for SCPD you'll probably find that there wasn't much time for anyone to sit on his/her ass anywhere, and if they were they were most likely completing paperwork.

As far as your $800 is concerned, that works out to a total of $2.19 per day, probably only about $.70 per day more than your average alarm company charges. If you're so worked up over paying $2.19 a day for police services why don't you figure out how much your paying for school taxes? Be realistic, with other factors like illegal housing, undocumented workers, and school enrollment constantly growing as a result of the aforementioned you should concentrate your tax complaints in a different direction. A little over 2 bucks a day is cheap for police services.

What about the big bucks the police department gets from the State of New York and the Feds, where did you think that money came from, that comes from the taxpayers.
And?
Where does the 137,000 I made the state, county and villages go?

It cost me $800 last year for them and their $100,000 paychecks just so they can sit on their ass in the firehouse parking lot.

How much does it take to run the force for a whole year? All expenses included.
been thru this 100s of times,- the 800 you pay goes into the general tax till, what is needed is used the rest goes to other areas, schools, highways etc.
The generalized reference of cops sitting in firehouses/parkinglots has also been a running theme. the amount of calls for service compared to patrol officers is ridiculous.
And the theme that a average cop makes more money for the county, state, village with his meet the minimum stats,(I.E. tickets and arrests) and there are many cops who are well above the minimum, has also been repeated ad infinitum.
Finally the theme that if you are having trouble affording your taxes......... move! they are not going down, and if your income isnt going up drastically anytime soon, you might as well leave, before it gets too expensive for you to remain.
ok troll?

Everyone who puts their hard earn pay into the general tax till has the right to question how their money is being spent whether you like it or not. It's not your job to belittle them on here or in public. Or tell them to move, either. They have every right to inquire about the wasting of tax dollars. So suck it up and do your job if you can not deal with that. If you can't handle it in a professional manner, then find yourself another form of employment better suited to your needs.
Gee, is that this thread was? Sounds like 40 or 50 other posts about the wonderland of l.i. where cops never do anything because there is no crime, accidents, reports, etc and they just sit in the firehouse. Other than a few, very few north shore areas, that myth has been gone for about 15 years.
Its not anyones job to start a thread belittling us and telling us we dont do anything. If this was supposed to be a serious thread, it got off to a trollish bash cops start, so now thats what it is.
It is all your jobs as a citizens of Suffolk to pay your taxes, so you suck it up and you do your jobs. If all of you cannot handle it, then you all need to find another form of employment better suited to pay your taxes. Or you can move.
If you reserve the right to tell us we sit on our asses, I reserve the right to tell you to move. This isnt the complaint dept of Levys fallen regime, this is a public message board, I can post whatever I want.

You can post what you want but your still an ass because if a taxpayer questions waste in the PD department, it's in your best interest. That is, if you are a PD.
tell me exactly how someone can be a pd?
Do you mean a p.o.?
either way, not my job. I'm not a accountant or a politician, just a cop.
Exactly if you are a police dept. Well I personally dont know anyone who is a pd, so I dont really care. All I know is I go to work everyday do a honest days work and go home. If someone or some group are abusing the taxpayers that's up to the bean counters to figure out. Dont expect much sympathy from us, since we, the ''lazy sit on our ass allday'' patrol cops, are lumped in with they, the chosen few (more like few 100) that are living large on the taxpayers nipple are lumped together, I could care less.
I could tell you this, there is a lot of wheeling and dealing in hqs in reference to money usage, who gets to go to the 3 day terrorism training course in georgia(but stays for 2 weeks), so they can come back and teach us, the lowly p.o.(by showing the same film as they did 5 years ago) all about terrorism. But screw you, pay your taxes until you bleed dry and the bank takes your home. Not my problem, the heirarchy of scpd, and suffolk county itself isnt out to ruin me and drive me off the island, I know what place they have for me, as for the average taxpayer, things ARE ONLY GOING TO GET WORSE.

[MY 2cents]

All of you complainers want to cry about $800 to pay
for police ? Take a look at what you pay for yor school
taxes , its probably triple that ! And if you're in sachem
they want to raise that another 18%. But no one cries
about that . Long island is expensive because we all want
the best, the best schools for our kids, the best police for our
communities , beaches/parks , ect.. Look at the big
picture and that $800 will be a bargin when you need a PO
when you or your family have an emergency situation. :lol:

[just a cop]

It cost me $800 last year for them and their $100,000 paychecks just so they can sit on their ass in the firehouse parking lot.

How much does it take to run the force for a whole year? All expenses included.
been thru this 100s of times,- the 800 you pay goes into the general tax till, what is needed is used the rest goes to other areas, schools, highways etc.
The generalized reference of cops sitting in firehouses/parkinglots has also been a running theme. the amount of calls for service compared to patrol officers is ridiculous.
And the theme that a average cop makes more money for the county, state, village with his meet the minimum stats,(I.E. tickets and arrests) and there are many cops who are well above the minimum, has also been repeated ad infinitum.
Finally the theme that if you are having trouble affording your taxes......... move! they are not going down, and if your income isnt going up drastically anytime soon, you might as well leave, before it gets too expensive for you to remain.
ok troll?

Everyone who puts their hard earn pay into the general tax till has the right to question how their money is being spent whether you like it or not. It's not your job to belittle them on here or in public. Or tell them to move, either. They have every right to inquire about the wasting of tax dollars. So suck it up and do your job if you can not deal with that. If you can't handle it in a professional manner, then find yourself another form of employment better suited to your needs.
Gee, is that this thread was? Sounds like 40 or 50 other posts about the wonderland of l.i. where cops never do anything because there is no crime, accidents, reports, etc and they just sit in the firehouse. Other than a few, very few north shore areas, that myth has been gone for about 15 years.
Its not anyones job to start a thread belittling us and telling us we dont do anything. If this was supposed to be a serious thread, it got off to a trollish bash cops start, so now thats what it is.
It is all your jobs as a citizens of Suffolk to pay your taxes, so you suck it up and you do your jobs. If all of you cannot handle it, then you all need to find another form of employment better suited to pay your taxes. Or you can move.
If you reserve the right to tell us we sit on our asses, I reserve the right to tell you to move. This isnt the complaint dept of Levys fallen regime, this is a public message board, I can post whatever I want.

You can post what you want but your still an ass because if a taxpayer questions waste in the PD department, it's in your best interest. That is, if you are a PD.
tell me exactly how someone can be a pd?
Do you mean a p.o.?
either way, not my job. I'm not a accountant or a politician, just a cop.HEY THAT'S MY SCREEN NAME:)