NISSEQUOGUE FIRE DEPARTMENT ELECTION

[wormxing]

:evil: I could not believe the news when i heard it last night about the scam that NFD/Town pulled last night with the chief position. How could they not vote in a person who has given 10 years of his LIFE to them? Not only did he train the new "chief" but then this man turns and bites the hand that feeds. Then the whole Fire Department (can we even say that when the active members are less then 20? and probably even less when this idiot is chief?) turns and stabs this kid in the back? I think it is disgusting and I remember when this town used to stand for something before this idiot Richard Smith and his band of marching morons ruined it. Shame on the people behind this. :evil:

[PJEMS]

:evil: I could not believe the news when i heard it last night about the scam that NFD/Town pulled last night with the chief position. How could they not vote in a person who has given 10 years of his LIFE to them? Not only did he train the new "chief" but then this man turns and bites the hand that feeds. Then the whole Fire Department (can we even say that when the active members are less then 20? and probably even less when this idiot is chief?) turns and stabs this kid in the back? I think it is disgusting and I remember when this town used to stand for something before this idiot Richard Smith and his band of marching morons ruined it. Shame on the people behind this. :evil:

Honestly It sounds like the Department has Spoken, They are the members and they have the right to elect who they feel is right for the job. It doesn't always happen but when you lose on a write in then you shouldnt have been in the position any way.

[theclap]

What happend in Nissequogue?

[boyohboy]

What happend in Nissequogue? :evil: :evil: what happened was that a man named jim burke did not have the balls to run against brett curtis, so underhandedly, along with the village board fixed an election so that he would be chief. phone calls were made the day of the election telling people not to vote for brett curtis but to write him in....had there been a real election, and each candidate could have campaigned the out come would have been different. how sad that jim burke is less qualified, and that a grown old man would take advantage of a dedicated young man. by the way is jim burke taking his wife or girlfriend to the installation dinner?? :D

[devine1]

What happend in Nissequogue? :evil: :evil: what happened was that a man named jim burke did not have the balls to run against brett curtis, so underhandedly, along with the village board fixed an election so that he would be chief. phone calls were made the day of the election telling people not to vote for brett curtis but to write him in....had there been a real election, and each candidate could have campaigned the out come would have been different. how sad that jim burke is less qualified, and that a grown old man would take advantage of a dedicated young man. by the way is jim burke taking his wife or girlfriend to the installation dinner?? :D


Dear “boyohboy”

Asst. Chief Burke apparently did have the “balls”, as you so eloquently put it, to run against Asst. Chief Curtis since he was ultimately elected to the position. NQFD members may legitimately elect a qualified member via the write-in process. I suspect that Burke would have won by an even larger margin had he been nominated. By-the-way, perhaps you should carry out an inventory of your own male appendages since you apparently did not have what it takes to sign your name to your statement.

Your allegation that the election was in someway “fixed” by the “village board” clearly illustrates that you are ill-informed. I doubt that you are a member of our department and therefore not entitled to an explanation, actually the whole matter is probably none of your business. If you were a member I would have advised, even strongly encouraged you to file a protest so the matter could have been properly investigated. In fact no protests were filed and while it is usually impossible to have all members happy with the outcome of an election I know of no one within the department who suspects any impropriety with respect to the election process.

Quite frankly your remaining comments are immature, reckless and wholly without merit. While I can easily dismiss them as being ridiculous others may consider you to be libelous. Be very careful Sir!

Respectfully yours,

Malcolm D. Devine
Member, NQFD

[boyohboy]

dear mr. devine,
first of all....mr burke was Not nominated....Why??? since you seem to think he is so wonderful, why didn't you nominate him?? making calls the day of the election telling people not to vote for the only nominee seemed like a better idea to you. i pity the residents that might need assistance in the future. the nqfd is a joke, with unqualified people running the show.
as far as my libelous, and immature statements about mr burke....how would you know? do you do his social calendar too? :roll:

[devine1]

dear mr. devine,
first of all....mr burke was Not nominated....Why??? since you seem to think he is so wonderful, why didn't you nominate him?? making calls the day of the election telling people not to vote for the only nominee seemed like a better idea to you. i pity the residents that might need assistance in the future. the nqfd is a joke, with unqualified people running the show.
as far as my libelous, and immature statements about mr burke....how would you know? do you do his social calendar too? :roll:


Dear Boyohboy:

I thought I had been clear on these points.

Under the rules of the NQFD you do not have to be nominated. The write-in process is perfectly legitimate.

100% of the of eligible voters cast a vote.

100% of the votes cast were counted.

There have been no protests regarding election procedures.

Members of NQFD are well educated, sophisticated people who fully understand the democratic process and they accept their responsibility to select the right person for the job.

The outcome of the election for the chief’s position was decisive (I think the result was something like 17 votes for Burke and 6 for Curtis). Whatever the exact number the decision by the membership was clear. Chief Burke did not just scrape by one or two votes.

Burke has served the department in various capacities over many years in much the same way Asst. Chief Curtis has. In addition, Chief Burke is an EMT Advance Life Support provider and continues to hone his skills as a volunteer at one of the busiest volunteer EMS agencies in New York State. Not withstanding your personal feelings for our chief and your stated disdain for our fire department, there is no doubt that the members have selected an eminently qualified chief who has demonstrated a first rate decision making track record and who has committed to a fiscally responsible approach to department operations. With all due respect Sir, I ask what qualifies you to question this decision?

In closing I should like to ask you or anyone who feels the need to continue this debate to properly identify yourself.

Respectfully,

Malcolm D. Devine
Member, NQFD

[Lets Go Paid]

I heard the real reason that the election went the way it did was because the firefighters didn't want anyone to have a chiefs car. Since the newly elected chief said he didnt want the car, then he got elected. Talk about the tail wagging the dog.

[$$$$]

I heard the real reason that the election went the way it did was because the firefighters didn't want anyone to have a chiefs car. Since the newly elected chief said he didnt want the car, then he got elected. Talk about the tail wagging the dog.
how sad that mr. devine thinks that it is fiscally responsible to have the team of chiefs that were writeins....the 1st assistant is not even an emt, and FISCALLY puts the village at risk for many lawsuits...but then again they can save $ on a chiefs car...much more important to mr. devine....

[No car NV chief]

I cant believe that such nonsense goes on...if you are elected chief of a vol FD, why not get the car? As long as it is not abused. Apparently there is so much jealousy among the members out there..that they voted for someone who said he wouldn't take a car!! Unbelieveable! Now we'll have a bunch of civilian cars with red lites on them..no one will know who they are. Sounds like a recipe for an accident. Clearly marked emergency vehicles should be used by fire chiefs. When the Hummer gets rapped up, is the fire district gonna pay for it? You people should close up shop and merge with St James. :roll:

[sooright]

I cant believe that such nonsense goes on...if you are elected chief of a vol FD, why not get the car? As long as it is not abused. Apparently there is so much jealousy among the members out there..that they voted for someone who said he wouldn't take a car!! Unbelieveable! Now we'll have a bunch of civilian cars with red lites on them..no one will know who they are. Sounds like a recipe for an accident. Clearly marked emergency vehicles should be used by fire chiefs. When the Hummer gets rapped up, is the fire district gonna pay for it? You people should close up shop and merge with St James. :roll:
could not agree with you more. getting back what they did. they elimated too highly qualified young men, and wrote in the two stooges...along with the 2nd assistant job that noone wanted to make it the three stooges. the fact that the 1st assistant is not an emt is beyond reason. being a first respondent to a call, he certainly puts all the residents lives in danger. for the village board to approve these stooges is inexcusable to all village residents.

[patheticBS]

I can't believe the mud being slinged here.

All I see is a bunch of crybabies screaming and throwing rumors around as if they are the gospel.

It someone wins on a write in it means that the membership of a department didn't want the canidate that was running.

News Flash people you can do a write in for president of the USA, is is 100% legal.

Chiefs cars are a perk, and not all departments offer them to the chiefs. many will give the chief a small budget to outfit their own car. BTW where does Mr. Devine state that the chief was elected cause he didn't want a car. Oh yeah he didn't it's a rumor.

What is the legality of haveing a non EMT as a chief? The chief is in charge of the scene, not the patient. Chiefs are administrative for EMS in suffolk county, Their are many departments out there that don't have EMS. What is the liability there? If you are gonna take that stance Then all chiefs need to be paramedics so they can't be outranked in the field. Oh no that might mean they would have to hop on the ambulance and *gasp* transport.


The members have spoken, Screamed would seem to be a more correct term. It is an internal matter, and none of anyone's elses business. Or is all the fuss because NQFD showed that being elected 33 or 32 no longer means that you will be elected 30 when it's your time.

[XX11223XXX]

IT IS VERY CLEAR THAT THE FIRST WRITTER WAS BRETT MOOOOOMMMMYYYYY!!!! PLEAASSEEE HAVEN"T YOU INTERFEARED ENOUGH IN HIS PRIOR ENGAGEMENT DIASTER!!!!! DEAL WITH IT MOOOMMMMYYY

[another comment]

I heard the real reason that the election went the way it did was because the firefighters didn't want anyone to have a chiefs car. Since the newly elected chief said he didnt want the car, then he got elected. Talk about the tail wagging the dog.
how sad that mr. devine thinks that it is fiscally responsible to have the team of chiefs that were writeins....the 1st assistant is not even an emt, and FISCALLY puts the village at risk for many lawsuits...but then again they can save $ on a chiefs car...much more important to mr. devine....

Thank god there will be one less useless chief car on the road.

[NQFD MEMBER]

This is all complete nonsense.... NQFD Chief Curtis proved to be one of the, if not the best fireground operations Chief you ever had. The new administration that was nominated to go in deserved at least a one year shot. Rumors being spread by certain individuals in order to alter members minds prior to an election is unexceptable. However, whats even more unexceptable are the members that let these ideas alter their vote. NQFD, good luck :lol: Also please try to stay safe. Remember all Chiefs and officers should have the required training. :roll:

[devine1]

This is all complete nonsense.... NQFD Chief Curtis proved to be one of the, if not the best fireground operations Chief you ever had. The new administration that was nominated to go in deserved at least a one year shot. Rumors being spread by certain individuals in order to alter members minds prior to an election is unexceptable. However, whats even more unexceptable are the members that let these ideas alter their vote. NQFD, good luck :lol: Also please try to stay safe. Remember all Chiefs and officers should have the required training. :roll:

Dear "NQFD Member"

It is a fact that if the proposed administration had “deserved” to be elected they would have been elected. The democratic election process is the method by which eligibility is ultimately determined. Certainly democracy is not the perfect approach. Indeed, I believe it was Winston Churchill who said; “democracy is the worst form of government except all those other forms that have been tried from time to time”. For the time being it is all we have.

Not only is open debate and discussion among members prior to an election acceptable but it is an important part of the process and should be encouraged. I have no doubt that there will be misinformation proffered from all sides during this time but to underestimate the electorate and think of them as merely conformists doomed to destruction because they blindly follow one another would be a grave error on your part.

Respectfully submitted,

Malcolm D. Devine
Member, NQFD

This is all complete nonsense.... NQFD Chief Curtis proved to be one of the, if not the best fireground operations Chief you ever had. The new administration that was nominated to go in deserved at least a one year shot. Rumors being spread by certain individuals in order to alter members minds prior to an election is unexceptable. However, whats even more unexceptable are the members that let these ideas alter their vote. NQFD, good luck :lol: Also please try to stay safe. Remember all Chiefs and officers should have the required training. :roll:

Dear "NQFD Member"

It is a fact that if the proposed administration had “deserved” to be elected they would have been elected. The democratic election process is the method by which eligibility is ultimately determined. Certainly democracy is not the perfect approach. Indeed, I believe it was Winston Churchill who said; “democracy is the worst form of government except all those other forms that have been tried from time to time”. For the time being it is all we have.

Not only is open debate and discussion among members prior to an election acceptable but it is an important part of the process and should be encouraged. I have no doubt that there will be misinformation proffered from all sides during this time but to underestimate the electorate and think of them as merely conformists doomed to destruction because they blindly follow one another would be a grave error on your part.

Respectfully submitted,

Malcolm D. Devine
Member, NQFD

QFE

I cant believe that such nonsense goes on...if you are elected chief of a vol FD, why not get the car? As long as it is not abused. Apparently there is so much jealousy among the members out there..that they voted for someone who said he wouldn't take a car!! Unbelieveable! Now we'll have a bunch of civilian cars with red lites on them..no one will know who they are. Sounds like a recipe for an accident. Clearly marked emergency vehicles should be used by fire chiefs. When the Hummer gets rapped up, is the fire district gonna pay for it? You people should close up shop and merge with St James. :roll:

Maybe people are starting to see sense on the chief car thing. I work near the queens border and there are 3 Suffolk chief cars parked in our parking lot every day all day and I see many more leaving the county in the mornings. Just how does this help us out here in Suffolk?

:evil: I could not believe the news when i heard it last night about the scam that NFD/Town pulled last night with the chief position. How could they not vote in a person who has given 10 years of his LIFE to them? Not only did he train the new "chief" but then this man turns and bites the hand that feeds. Then the whole Fire Department (can we even say that when the active members are less then 20? and probably even less when this idiot is chief?) turns and stabs this kid in the back? I think it is disgusting and I remember when this town used to stand for something before this idiot Richard Smith and his band of marching morons ruined it. Shame on the people behind this. :evil:

Allow me to simplify your statement

WAHHHHHHHHHHH :( :( :( :( :( :( :( :( :( BOOOHOOO, WAHHHHHHH

I cant believe that such nonsense goes on...if you are elected chief of a vol FD, why not get the car? As long as it is not abused. Apparently there is so much jealousy among the members out there..that they voted for someone who said he wouldn't take a car!! Unbelieveable! Now we'll have a bunch of civilian cars with red lites on them..no one will know who they are. Sounds like a recipe for an accident. Clearly marked emergency vehicles should be used by fire chiefs. When the Hummer gets rapped up, is the fire district gonna pay for it? You people should close up shop and merge with St James. :roll:

Maybe people are starting to see sense on the chief car thing. I work near the queens border and there are 3 Suffolk chief cars parked in our parking lot every day all day and I see many more leaving the county in the mornings. Just how does this help us out here in Suffolk?

it helps the taxpayers not have to pay for tickets cause chief cars don't get parking tickets :)

[STARTWATER2]

IF YOU WORK OUT OF DISTRICT WHITHIN REASON IT`S OK TO USE THE CAR IF U CAN RESPOND TO AN INCIDENT. IF YOU LIVE IN SUFFOLK AND WORK IN THE CITY YOU SHOULD HAVE TO LEAVE THE CAR HOME!! IT`S B.S THAT CHIEF CARS EVEN IN NASSAU ARE ALLOWD TO TAKE THE CAR TO YOUR JOB IN THE CITY FOR IT TO SIT ALL DAY. I UNDERSTAND THE JOB OF BEING A CHIEF BUT IF YOU ARE UNABLE TO RESPOND TO ALARM WHILE AT WORK THEN TRHE CAR SHOULD STAY HOME. GET A JUNK BOX CRUISER FOR WORK. TO ME THAT`S ABUSE TO THE SYSTEM.

[geeeeee]

As a village resident, a member of the Fire Dept. and a friend of this young man, I believe he was not the best person for the job. I was on scene many times to see first hand that his commanding of many scenes was not in the best interest of dept. or patient care. He has not matured enough to handle the position. Im sure someday he will realize this and at that time he will make a good chief. Sorry that you can't be the youngest Chief in the history of Nisseqougue.
i too am a member of the nqfd, and a village resident and to say that this young man's leadership was not first rate is just not true. either you are one of the "newly brainwashed" members, or just don't understand the makings of a good chief. either way to call yourself a friend is pathetic, and clearly untrue.

[4553]

To geeeeee

Maybe I don’t understand the makings of a good chief, and you obviously have not been on scene as many times as I have, that’s a fact. But Bret seemed to forget the basics of fire scene operations, like a good size up and getting your hands dirty because we are always shorthanded. Because of this people will get hurt. I know first hand because I am one of them. Example, the Valley Path fire, there was no proper size up; otherwise he would not have sent us in through the wrong door which took to long to locate the fire. He had to be told by Mike G. and the 2 nd Asst chief Jim Burke, to help move the line. Keep in mind that Burke was the line officer who moving the line for me and ventilating. All of which could have been done by Bret from the outside. How long does it take to 24 neighboring departments? Needless to say I now have a pinched nerve in my neck from the ceiling that came down on me because it took to long to advance the line.

And what about patient care during an EMS call. Should the patient have to wait because a Chief or Assist. Chief doesn’t want to be “E”. I’ve seen this first hand many times with Bret. On a recent CO emergency he 24 Smithtown because he didn’t want to be the “E”. I must admit that I am not an EMT yet, but I ride the ambulance more than you and most members do.

I’ve taken the ICS class and understand that I.C. ‘s only job is to run the scene, but that only works in the perfect world. The reality of the NQFD is that there are not enough active members so we all must do multiple jobs and get our hands dirty until help arrives.

There are many more examples of why he wasn’t the best “kid” for the job, but I think I’ve made my point already. Jim Burke has proved to me in the past few years, that he is the right person to lead this department. And I apologize to Bret for not letting him know how I felt sooner.
R.S.
4-5-53

[arealfd]

To geeeeee

Maybe I don’t understand the makings of a good chief, and you obviously have not been on scene as many times as I have, that’s a fact. But Bret seemed to forget the basics of fire scene operations, like a good size up and getting your hands dirty because we are always shorthanded. Because of this people will get hurt. I know first hand because I am one of them. Example, the Valley Path fire, there was no proper size up; otherwise he would not have sent us in through the wrong door which took to long to locate the fire. He had to be told by Mike G. and the 2 nd Asst chief Jim Burke, to help move the line. Keep in mind that Burke was the line officer who moving the line for me and ventilating. All of which could have been done by Bret from the outside. How long does it take to 24 neighboring departments? Needless to say I now have a pinched nerve in my neck from the ceiling that came down on me because it took to long to advance the line.

And what about patient care during an EMS call. Should the patient have to wait because a Chief or Assist. Chief doesn’t want to be “E”. I’ve seen this first hand many times with Bret. On a recent CO emergency he 24 Smithtown because he didn’t want to be the “E”. I must admit that I am not an EMT yet, but I ride the ambulance more than you and most members do.

I’ve taken the ICS class and understand that I.C. ‘s only job is to run the scene, but that only works in the perfect world. The reality of the NQFD is that there are not enough active members so we all must do multiple jobs and get our hands dirty until help arrives.

There are many more examples of why he wasn’t the best “kid” for the job, but I think I’ve made my point already. Jim Burke has proved to me in the past few years, that he is the right person to lead this department. And I apologize to Bret for not letting him know how I felt sooner.
R.S.
4-5-53your multiple jobs of which you are unqualified to do certainly puts the residents lives in danger! i feel sorry for a person in distress in your wonderful village...having members that have the same mentality as you is scary...nqfd should pack it in and the village should pay a real fd to protect the residents!!!

[4553]

To arealfd,
You have some very valid points, who is protecting you, the problems are the same island wide, I here the signal 3’s all day long , you’re a fool to think your department is any better. 4553

[Sierra Mist]

Point of interest 4-5-53 RS Being associated with :? a neighboring fire dept. I say maybe you should ask the fire marshalls what they thought of Brett's command and attack at the only two sucessful fires commanded in the history of your ridiculous fire department under his command two houses were saved hey and your 30 now I believe he is the guy that delays mutual aids actually if it wasen't for Brett at your Spring Hollow disaster your current 30 would have called noone I did hear the radio transmission, then Brett called mutual aid your current 30 would have gotten someonehurt. there were No delays in mutual aid on Valley Path listen to the tapes. Oh and if you are going to blame your injury on someone, maybe you should blame yourself and your obvious lack of experience...... It sounds like your a cry baby If you can't take the heat, get out of the kitchen....... And Malcolm get a life

[4553]

To Sierra Mist,

I like the screen name you hide behind, very clever. You sound like a very knowledgeable person and I respect your opinions and criticism. You actually sound like one of the Fire Marshals who were on scene. You missed my point, I know the 24’s went out immediately, ( Valley Path) but how much time elapsed before help arrived, and what does a chief do during that time , stand around and look good for the cameras. I don’t think so, you pick up a tool or move some hose until help arrives. Or better yet don’t commit your team to an aggressive interior attack if it can’t be aggressive. I’m sure everything sounds good on tape and looks good on paper, it always does.

Mutual aide at Spring Hollow was definitely a good thing, maybe to much of a good thing all at once. 456 was trapped at the driveway and the next available ambulance was a ¼ mile away. What if the two St. James probies who were in the fire building while the other half of the structure was still burning got hurt (it was Jim Burke who pulled them out). My point, too many trucks blocking the road and too much man power that could be safely managed at one time especially when only one engine could be positioned to flow water. Again back to the basics like a good size up which include weather and road conditions (20” of snow at 5 deg. F) on normally narrow roads. Trucks and manpower could have been staged at the horse farm and rotated as necessary to let the men warm up. Hind sight is 20/20.

To those who feel we should hang it up and pay a real F.D to protect us, I agree, but Nesconset feels there just a little to far away to be effective. What a shame all we would have to do is remove the “Q” from NQFD. Kings Park expressed some interest once the proposed San Remo – Short Beach Bridge is completed. It would be nice to avoid Edgewood in the morning.

I know what the Fire Marshals thought of Bretts command abilities, I was there both times when they patted him on the butt, and he deserved it.

Well enough for now. I must admit, you are correct about two things, I do lack experience and I am cry baby just like the rest of you guys who choose to volunteer. I think its time that we all learn how to play nicely together.
4553

[guest who]

To Sierra Mist,

We know who you are, so behave or we will lock you in a Cabinet. Pretty boy. :wink:

[helpline1]

To Sierra Mist,

I like the screen name you hide behind, very clever. You sound like a very knowledgeable person and I respect your opinions and criticism. You actually sound like one of the Fire Marshals who were on scene. You missed my point, I know the 24’s went out immediately, ( Valley Path) but how much time elapsed before help arrived, and what does a chief do during that time , stand around and look good for the cameras. I don’t think so, you pick up a tool or move some hose until help arrives. Or better yet don’t commit your team to an aggressive interior attack if it can’t be aggressive. I’m sure everything sounds good on tape and looks good on paper, it always does.

Mutual aide at Spring Hollow was definitely a good thing, maybe to much of a good thing all at once. 456 was trapped at the driveway and the next available ambulance was a ¼ mile away. What if the two St. James probies who were in the fire building while the other half of the structure was still burning got hurt (it was Jim Burke who pulled them out). My point, too many trucks blocking the road and too much man power that could be safely managed at one time especially when only one engine could be positioned to flow water. Again back to the basics like a good size up which include weather and road conditions (20” of snow at 5 deg. F) on normally narrow roads. Trucks and manpower could have been staged at the horse farm and rotated as necessary to let the men warm up. Hind sight is 20/20.

To those who feel we should hang it up and pay a real F.D to protect us, I agree, but Nesconset feels there just a little to far away to be effective. What a shame all we would have to do is remove the “Q” from NQFD. Kings Park expressed some interest once the proposed San Remo – Short Beach Bridge is completed. It would be nice to avoid Edgewood in the morning.

I know what the Fire Marshals thought of Bretts command abilities, I was there both times when they patted him on the butt, and he deserved it.

Well enough for now. I must admit, you are correct about two things, I do lack experience and I am cry baby just like the rest of you guys who choose to volunteer. I think its time that we all learn how to play nicely together.
4553 WHAT ARE YOU BABBLING ABOUT? ARE YOU CONFUSED. DO YOU NEED HELP? IS THIS TRUE CONFESSION? GET A F>>>>> LIFE :mrgreen:

[Fed Up toooo]

:D Alright enough already its over everyone just stop. I was able to familiarize my self with everyone's opinion. Thank for your support, and those of you who did not support the NQFD chiefs thats your decision. Everybody stop fighting and get along. I will not sign my name to this comment you could probably figure it out. I must say I am very disappointed in some of the comments that have been written on this website (extremely immature). Some of you should be ashamed, others have good points. Please stop the election is over and so should be this discussion. Everybody stay safe and always remember the basics. Good Night.

:D Alright enough already its over everyone just stop. I was able to familiarize my self with everyone's opinion. Thank for your support, and those of you who did not support the NQFD chiefs thats your decision. Everybody stop fighting and get along. I will not sign my name to this comment you could probably figure it out. I must say I am very disappointed in some of the comments that have been written on this website (extremely immature). Some of you should be ashamed, others have good points. Please stop the election is over and so should be this discussion. Everybody stay safe and always remember the basics. Good Night.

fed up toooo:

What do you mean by "those of you who did not support the NQFD chiefs " I just need clarification.

[devine1]

Point of interest 4-5-53 RS Being associated with :? a neighboring fire dept. I say maybe you should ask the fire marshalls what they thought of Brett's command and attack at the only two sucessful fires commanded in the history of your ridiculous fire department under his command two houses were saved hey and your 30 now I believe he is the guy that delays mutual aids actually if it wasen't for Brett at your Spring Hollow disaster your current 30 would have called noone I did hear the radio transmission, then Brett called mutual aid your current 30 would have gotten someonehurt. there were No delays in mutual aid on Valley Path listen to the tapes. Oh and if you are going to blame your injury on someone, maybe you should blame yourself and your obvious lack of experience...... It sounds like your a cry baby If you can't take the heat, get out of the kitchen....... And Malcolm get a life


Sierra Mist:

Please explain your comment "And Malcolm get a life" as stated in your posting quoted above.

Malcolm D. Devine

[729]

NQFD is a disgrace to the 4th divison... at any incident they run around like chickens with their heads cut off... they should stop taking about chief elections and start to learn how to put the wet stuff on the red stuff

Asue.
i too am a member of the nqfd, and a village resident and to say that this young man's leadership was not first rate is just not true. either you are one of the "newly brainwashed" members, or just don't understand the makings of a good chief. either way to call yourself a friend is pathetic, and clearly untrue.


Perhaps if you had witnessed Brett's destructive temper tantrums while he was Assistant Chief whenever things did not go his way maybe you would have become "brainwashed"

Perhaps if you had witnessed the threats and immature behavior following the election maybe you would be satisfied that the “brainwashed” majority made the correct decision.

[dahdah]

[quote=Sierra Mist]Point of interest 4-5-53 RS Being associated with :? a neighboring fire dept. I say maybe you should ask the fire marshalls what they thought of Brett's command and attack at the only two sucessful fires commanded in the history of your ridiculous fire department under his command two houses were saved hey and your 30 now I believe he is the guy that delays mutual aids actually if it wasen't for Brett at your Spring Hollow disaster your current 30 would have called noone I did hear the radio transmission, then Brett called mutual aid your current 30 would have gotten someonehurt. there were No delays in mutual aid on Valley Path listen to the tapes. Oh and if you are going to blame your injury on someone, maybe you should blame yourself and your obvious lack of experience...... It sounds like your a cry baby If you can't take the heat, get out of the kitchen....... And Malcolm get a life


Sierra Mist:

Please explain your comment "And Malcolm get a life" as stated in your posting quoted above.

Malcolm D. Devine[/quote :shock: What don't you understand about getting a life??? :roll:

[mouse]

Asue.
i too am a member of the nqfd, and a village resident and to say that this young man's leadership was not first rate is just not true. either you are one of the "newly brainwashed" members, or just don't understand the makings of a good chief. either way to call yourself a friend is pathetic, and clearly untrue.


Perhaps if you had witnessed Brett's destructive temper tantrums while he was Assistant Chief whenever things did not go his way maybe you would have become "brainwashed"

Perhaps if you had witnessed the threats and immature behavior following the election maybe you would be satisfied that the “brainwashed” majority made the correct decision. being nominated for a position with many seconds, and no other candidate along with members helping plan the installation dinner, etc..when all along burke and devine had a plan which was back handed and unexpected....no wonder curtis flipped a little. many of us have a big problem with him not running against curtis. this is called a fair and square election....and burke was too immature to take the chance of losing. i think in this instance burke wins for immature behavior!!!

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i too am a member of the nqfd, and a village resident and to say that this young man's leadership was not first rate is just not true. either you are one of the "newly brainwashed" members, or just don't understand the makings of a good chief. either way to call yourself a friend is pathetic, and clearly untrue.


Perhaps if you had witnessed Brett's destructive temper tantrums while he was Assistant Chief whenever things did not go his way maybe you would have become "brainwashed"

Perhaps if you had witnessed the threats and immature behavior following the election maybe you would be satisfied that the “brainwashed” majority made the correct decision. being nominated for a position with many seconds, and no other candidate along with members helping plan the installation dinner, etc..when all along burke and devine had a plan which was back handed and unexpected....no wonder curtis flipped a little. many of us have a big problem with him not running against curtis. this is called a fair and square election....and burke was too immature to take the chance of losing. i think in this instance burke wins for immature behavior!!!

My god! do you guys never give-up? One more time…. The difference is that Burke’s behavior got him elected by a VERY LARGE majority and Curtis’s behavior lost him the election. Brett should learn from this. He is a young man with potential to do very well in life but there clearly needs to be a few adjustments if he is to excel. There is not one person in NQFD who would not want to see Brett succeed beyond his own dreams. The harsh reality is that he lost a one horse race in a department who likes him a lot but who simply did not believe he was the best man for the job, this means he must look to himself for the answer. Blaming Burke or Devine or anyone else for that matter is pointless. Each vote was cast individually and privately. My vote was certainly not influenced by anyone else. Brett would be well advised to stop listening to the conspiracy theorists and start listening to the people who care for him and find out why they chose to vote against him.

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[quote=Sierra Mist]Point of interest 4-5-53 RS Being associated with :? a neighboring fire dept. I say maybe you should ask the fire marshalls what they thought of Brett's command and attack at the only two sucessful fires commanded in the history of your ridiculous fire department under his command two houses were saved hey and your 30 now I believe he is the guy that delays mutual aids actually if it wasen't for Brett at your Spring Hollow disaster your current 30 would have called noone I did hear the radio transmission, then Brett called mutual aid your current 30 would have gotten someonehurt. there were No delays in mutual aid on Valley Path listen to the tapes. Oh and if you are going to blame your injury on someone, maybe you should blame yourself and your obvious lack of experience...... It sounds like your a cry baby If you can't take the heat, get out of the kitchen....... And Malcolm get a life


Sierra Mist:

Please explain your comment "And Malcolm get a life" as stated in your posting quoted above.

Malcolm D. Devine[/quote :shock: What don't you understand about getting a life??? :roll:


I should have known that I would not get an intelligent response from you. It was an act of pure speculation on my part to pose the question in the first place.

In one of my earlier posts I stated that NQFD member are “generally well educated” please don’t let this be the only point on which you prove me wrong.

Malcolm D. Devine
Member NQFD

To Brett's Mommy:

See what you started?

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Great job at the 35 on friday night , another house lost

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Great job at the 35 on friday night , another house lost

SHUT UP RYAN

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Great job at the 35 on friday night , another house lost

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Where is everyone now. Six years after the election.

Burke quit NQFD
Devine quit NQFD
the old 4553 couldn't handle being a chief
Glenn is the only guy down at NQFD who knows what he is doing
None of the current chiefs can get any other department to call them for mutual aid

Oh and the kid that lost the election is happily married making well over a 100000 dollars a year as a police officer on long island

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Murrah also quit
Also: No more advance life, just BLS