legislature in bed with pba

[Unregistered1251]

They are so obvious, isn't it criminal? I hope Levy can expose the truth of how swayed they are towards the pba.

[Unregistered4565egsaa]

They are so obvious, isn't it criminal? I hope Levy can expose the truth of how swayed they are towards the pba.

The Legislature sees what the rest of the state was able to see, but somehow people like you in Suffolk are still buying into this Levy! He lies to the public over and over. Enough already! And Dormer walks into those safety hearings and is still yet to tell the truth once.

The whole system needs to change, Levy has to much power and there needs to be more checks and balances with the legislature.

Unfortunately the truth is if they do get Dormer out of there, Levy will only put someone worse in and Levy will still be pulling the strings.

[UnregisteredIU87T]

They are so obvious, isn't it criminal? I hope Levy can expose the truth of how swayed they are towards the pba.

Are you kidding?? Swayed to the PBA! Try swayed towards public safety, something our county exec has failed to be concerned about.

[Unregistered6725]

They are so obvious, isn't it criminal? I hope Levy can expose the truth of how swayed they are towards the pba.

The general public is with him on this one

[Unregistereduuu]

The general public is with him on this one

Cops walk home with $120,000.00 a year! Not to mention all the perks. This is a dangerous,hard and taxing job. But qualified candidates would be lined up to do this job @ $85,000. The pba is too strong. Responsible fiscal spending needs to take priority. The Legislators ARE in the pocket for the pba and it is sickening.

[Unregisteredyep]

Cops walk home with $120,000.00 a year! Not to mention all the perks. This is a dangerous,hard and taxing job. But qualified candidates would be lined up to do this job @ $85,000. The pba is too strong. Responsible fiscal spending needs to take priority. The Legislators ARE in the pocket for the pba and it is sickening.

Sure and four years ago when every 22 year old with a pulse and a suit was a "mortgage broker" with a Benz , housewives were making big money selling real estate part time, everyone was flying high... using their home equity like lottery winnings!... And Cops and their salaries were a joke. Sad to say times changed.... as they have 3 or 4 times during my career. With so many folks unemployed I'm sure you'd get tons of applicants if the job paid $35,000...

Slow and steady wins the race.... we've taken the good times and the bad at the same pace... when things were great we were doing OK... when times are bad we do alright...

Get over it and start making some good longterm choices in life...

[Unregistered23432154]

Police salarys are a bit high, no one can deny that. I think they should be making great money though, I mean they put their lives on the line every day. But 120,000-130,000 should be the high water mark, and its not even close. Then again the CE makes almost 200,000 a year and he spends most of the year worrying how he can save the taxpayers 10 dollars a month so that he can continue being a politician and be able to brag about how he squeezes a nickel like no other.

[Unregisteredr45t]

Sure and four years ago when every 22 year old with a pulse and a suit was a "mortgage broker" with a Benz , housewives were making big money selling real estate part time, everyone was flying high... using their home equity like lottery winnings!... And Cops and their salaries were a joke. Sad to say times changed.... as they have 3 or 4 times during my career. With so many folks unemployed I'm sure you'd get tons of applicants if the job paid $35,000...

Slow and steady wins the race.... we've taken the good times and the bad at the same pace... when things were great we were doing OK... when times are bad we do alright...

Get over it and start making some good longterm choices in life...

Be Jesus, Mary and Joseph! What did you say? Supply and demand buddy boy. There have always been 25,000 people or more waiting on a list for your job, you have not had bad times since some idiot arbitrator decided to play Nassau/suffolk games with your contracts. Stop the madness! Cut the salaries, no OT for pension calculation, if you dont like it, retire to North Carolina, there is a line waiting for years for your job

[Unregistered7yytjudfg]

Cops walk home with $120,000.00 a year! Not to mention all the perks. This is a dangerous,hard and taxing job. But qualified candidates would be lined up to do this job @ $85,000. The pba is too strong. Responsible fiscal spending needs to take priority. The Legislators ARE in the pocket for the pba and it is sickening.

Then go take the NYPD exam, top pay is $91,000 in the city.

You are another person who cant stand the police, probably because of bad run-ins with them. The same type of person that Levy is. He hates cops, got a couple of tickets, two when he was in the legislature, one from SCPD for not wearing his seat belt, and another from State police for an expired inspection. I can just hear him, "how dare they!", "Im an important legislator", "more important than regular people!"
He probably associates every cop with the bullies that used to pick on him when he was a little weasel kid.

The legislature is doing what right, for everyone, not the PBA. Wake up already.

[Unregisteredreally]

Cops walk home with $120,000.00 a year! Not to mention all the perks. This is a dangerous,hard and taxing job. But qualified candidates would be lined up to do this job @ $85,000. The pba is too strong. Responsible fiscal spending needs to take priority. The Legislators ARE in the pocket for the pba and it is sickening.


Why they struggle to get any actual candidates for the NYPD at 91K+? Yes they are very well paid. Yes they respong almost entirely SOLO to most calls, not double cars like the city. So 182K vs 120K. As well look at numbers of cops per person in area and the city has suffolk by 4 to 1.

Again very well paid but cheaper then your cell phone. Thats a bargain for what you get. There are things that should be changed, the ot in pensions is one, but Leg in PBA's pocket. Oh please.

[UnregisteredConcdCitizen2]

They are so obvious, isn't it criminal? I hope Levy can expose the truth of how swayed they are towards the pba.

If the Suffolk County Police were eliminated tomorrow, no one would see a difference in their taxes. You see, the Police Portion of the Tax bill is minute compared to what people pay for their "Volunteer Fire Departments", Libraries, Sanitation and the Major all Tax inflating "School Tax" The Police Tax is actually a bargain, especially for the people who call for every little thing. It's high time that Dormer is exposed for what he is, a puppet who is not qualified to be a janitor in a county building let alone the commissioner of Police. He demands that his subordinates tell the truth or he has them disciplined all the while he has lied repeatedly to to legislature about crime statistics, manpower and response times. Yesterday he tried to push the blame off on those officers responding to the houseboat tragedy. No one ever questioned the cops. They did a great job given the situation and the "Tools" they were given. Dormer as always tried to deflect the heat off himself because his stupid policies are killing residents of this county. Its like a contractor telling his crew to build a house and giving them a saw and a hammer, but never giving them lumber or nails so he can save a few dollars even though the person buying the house already paid for it! Wake up people. You have been swindled by Steve Levy and Richie Dormer. They stole your money and used it elsewhere when it was collected for the Police Department!

[11234567]

If the Suffolk County Police were eliminated tomorrow, no one would see a difference in their taxes. You see, the Police Portion of the Tax bill is minute compared to what people pay for their "Volunteer Fire Departments", Libraries, Sanitation and the Major all Tax inflating "School Tax" The Police Tax is actually a bargain, especially for the people who call for every little thing. It's high time that Dormer is exposed for what he is, a puppet who is not qualified to be a janitor in a county building let alone the commissioner of Police. He demands that his subordinates tell the truth or he has them disciplined all the while he has lied repeatedly to to legislature about crime statistics, manpower and response times. Yesterday he tried to push the blame off on those officers responding to the houseboat tragedy. No one ever questioned the cops. They did a great job given the situation and the "Tools" they were given. Dormer as always tried to deflect the heat off himself because his stupid policies are killing residents of this county. Its like a contractor telling his crew to build a house and giving them a saw and a hammer, but never giving them lumber or nails so he can save a few dollars even though the person buying the house already paid for it! Wake up people. You have been swindled by Steve Levy and Richie Dormer. They stole your money and used it elsewhere when it was collected for the Police Department!

I agree with everything you said, but my Vol Fireman Tax is $350.00 per year and my Police tax is $1,050.00 per year. Maybe if you live in GH it is higher, but not the rest of the county . Still think it is a great deal?

[UnregisteredObserver]

I agree with everything you said, but my Vol Fireman Tax is $350.00 per year and my Police tax is $1,050.00 per year. Maybe if you live in GH it is higher, but not the rest of the county . Still think it is a great deal?

Its your lucky day, I have my Brookhaven tax bill in front of me
Here is the breakout..Guess what ..Police is #2
Now for the teachers, or at least cut the administration numbers, and their salaries

school 49.95%
library 6.19%
county 1.05%
police 12.21%
mta 0.05%
town 1.63%
highway 0.95%
town 0.53%
highway 4.22%
bond act 0.58%
recycling 10.10%
fire 9.25%
lighting 0.63%
real prop 0.34%
real prop 2.27%

[112334567]

Its your lucky day, I have my Brookhaven tax bill in front of me
Here is the breakout..Guess what ..Police is #2
Now for the teachers, or at least cut the administration numbers, and their salaries

school 49.95%
library 6.19%
county 1.05%
police 12.21%
mta 0.05%
town 1.63%
highway 0.95%
town 0.53%
highway 4.22%
bond act 0.58%
recycling 10.10%
fire 9.25%
lighting 0.63%
real prop 0.34%
real prop 2.27%

Please read my post again, only talking Vol Fire, the other post was saying the Vol Fire was higher and you answered the question thanks

[UnregisteredTaxpayer]

Its your lucky day, I have my Brookhaven tax bill in front of me
Here is the breakout..Guess what ..Police is #2
Now for the teachers, or at least cut the administration numbers, and their salaries

school 49.95%
library 6.19%
county 1.05%
police 12.21%
mta 0.05%
town 1.63%
highway 0.95%
town 0.53%
highway 4.22%
bond act 0.58%
recycling 10.10%
fire 9.25%
lighting 0.63%
real prop 0.34%
real prop 2.27%

Wow! I get a better bang for my buck at 12.21% on my Police Tax than 10.10% on my recycling tax. 9.25% for a Volunteer Fire Department? Thats alot of Beer and New Fire Trucks every year! The Police Tax is a bargain. Where is Steve screaming about these things?

[UnregisteredKYJF]

Then go take the NYPD exam, top pay is $91,000 in the city.

You are another person who cant stand the police, probably because of bad run-ins with them. The same type of person that Levy is. He hates cops, got a couple of tickets, two when he was in the legislature, one from SCPD for not wearing his seat belt, and another from State police for an expired inspection. I can just hear him, "how dare they!", "Im an important legislator", "more important than regular people!"
He probably associates every cop with the bullies that used to pick on him when he was a little weasel kid.

The legislature is doing what right, for everyone, not the PBA. Wake up already.




"The legislature is doing what right, for everyone, not the PBA. Wake up already" HAHAHAHAHAHAHA THAT IS FUNNY !!!! GHAVE YOU EVER SAT A A LEG MEETING? IT'S A JOKE AND YOU SHOULD WAKE UP LOLOLOLOLOLOL

[Unregisteredtrytruth]

If the Suffolk County Police were eliminated tomorrow, no one would see a difference in their taxes. You see, the Police Portion of the Tax bill is minute compared to what people pay for their "Volunteer Fire Departments", Libraries, Sanitation and the Major all Tax inflating "School Tax" The Police Tax is actually a bargain, especially for the people who call for every little thing. It's high time that Dormer is exposed for what he is, a puppet who is not qualified to be a janitor in a county building let alone the commissioner of Police. He demands that his subordinates tell the truth or he has them disciplined all the while he has lied repeatedly to to legislature about crime statistics, manpower and response times. Yesterday he tried to push the blame off on those officers responding to the houseboat tragedy. No one ever questioned the cops. They did a great job given the situation and the "Tools" they were given. Dormer as always tried to deflect the heat off himself because his stupid policies are killing residents of this county. Its like a contractor telling his crew to build a house and giving them a saw and a hammer, but never giving them lumber or nails so he can save a few dollars even though the person buying the house already paid for it! Wake up people. You have been swindled by Steve Levy and Richie Dormer. They stole your money and used it elsewhere when it was collected for the Police Department!My fire dept & libraries taxes are lower than the police tax.

[Unregistered3423sdfghsg]

Wow! I get a better bang for my buck at 12.21% on my Police Tax than 10.10% on my recycling tax. 9.25% for a Volunteer Fire Department? Thats alot of Beer and New Fire Trucks every year! The Police Tax is a bargain. Where is Steve screaming about these things?

And dont forget your police tax just went up 3% for 2 new police classes in 2010 that Stevie isnt hiring. He continually raises taxes in other areas and places it under Police Tax to make it look higher than it is. Time to wake up people, Steve Levy is lying to you.

[Unregistered2440]

And dont forget your police tax just went up 3% for 2 new police classes in 2010 that Stevie isnt hiring. He continually raises taxes in other areas and places it under Police Tax to make it look higher than it is. Time to wake up people, Steve Levy is lying to you.

That's right. When Levy says he hasn't raised taxes he's only talking about the general fund. He has raised taxes in other areas.

[Unregisteredrger]

Cops walk home with $120,000.00 a year! Not to mention all the perks. This is a dangerous,hard and taxing job. But qualified candidates would be lined up to do this job @ $85,000. The pba is too strong. Responsible fiscal spending needs to take priority. The Legislators ARE in the pocket for the pba and it is sickening.

Qualified candidates would be lined up at $85k? Maybe you should look at the NYPD who tops out at $91k and see the story in the paper about the officer on probation who shot someone in the back during an altercation at Napper Tandy's off-duty.

Not saying every NYPD guy is like this obviously, but when you lower the pay you lose the most qualified candidates and lesser people like that scumbag make it through the process. The competitive salary of SCPD allows them to sift through a pool of 25,000 applicants and find the best of the best.

Oh, and if you want to bash cop salaries and the police tax, maybe you should read yesterday's paper and look at the MTA tax. You're paying people 6 figures to punch your LIRR ticket.

[34343]

My fire dept & libraries taxes are lower than the police tax.

We all know that these numbers are meaningless because they are designed to misrepresent. Let's start with the police. At least 1/3 goes outside the police department. The reasons are two-fold; exaggerate the costs of police and blame them (and their unions) for any tax increases. Levy certainly didn't start this practice, but he has taken it to levels which interfere with effective criminal justice in our county.

Recycling, highway, garbage pickup, and other line items are still town highway. Add them all up and you get the actual number. Then come back and compare them to the police.

Fire and EMS service. Where to start? We pay for endless purchases of new equipment, bigger buildings to house them, and concurrent administrations to run the dozens of districts. And your tax number doesn't even come close to what you're paying for the service. Our volunteers are entitled to tax breaks, community college tuition breaks, pensions, and dozens of other perks for their service. I'm not suggesting that they don't deserve them for the service they deliver to our communities, only that in a comparison of the costs, let's at least be honest. And these costs are for VOLUNTEER workers. Cound you imagine what they would be if they were paid? The costs would far surpass that of the police department. This suggests that either the PD is extremely efficient and frugal, or the fire service is bloated and profligate. Take your choice. It's time for consolidation and professionalization but alas, our leaders and Newsday are too afraid of the FD lobby to continue the crusade that they started to achieve this.

So stop your whining about your police taxes. Your cops are the best bargain on your tax bill.

[5454]

"The legislature is doing what right, for everyone, not the PBA. Wake up already" HAHAHAHAHAHAHA THAT IS FUNNY !!!! GHAVE YOU EVER SAT A A LEG MEETING? IT'S A JOKE AND YOU SHOULD WAKE UP LOLOLOLOLOLOL

You have? For what? Certainly not your H.S. English class.

[SMOKE AND MIRRORS!!!]

its despicable the way people ae so baffled by levys BS.
How dare you bitch about the salarys of our police-
THEY RISK THEIR LIVES DAILY you want to cut costs on that?
how dare you!
How about the welfare fraud-
the single persons living off welfare GO DOWN TO ANY SOCIAL SRVICE OFFICE and meet the face of welfare - those are COUNTY dollars being speant so SINGLE PEOPLE can get their bills paid and fraud the sytem by working off the books while doing so- how about all the KIDS (18-40) that the county PAYS RENT TO THEIR PARENTS JUST BECAUSE THEY CANT GET A JOB OR CHOOSE TO LIVE IN AND OUT OF REHABS,
OUR POLICE ARE UNDERPAID IF YOU ASK ME, and you are despicable for saying anything else.
What about the money spent on HOUSING SEX OFFENDERS?($90 buck a day for motels? even the trailers how much $ do you think that costs????)
Or Emergency Housing - for persons who knowingly move their family places they cant afford and then live free for MONTHS AND MONTHS on the taxpayer dollar? ( Some shelter costs are over TEN THOUSAND DOLLARS A MONTH- thats right i said THOUSAND!! and that is ONE room in a shelter housing ONE family)

oh then their is the MILLIONS spent on " affordable housing" SECTION 8 and town programs.

Yeah -
Levy is certainly for the people- JUST NOT HARD WORKING PEOPLE.

Get your head out of your As$- stop watching FOX news and come back to reality.

[Unregistered67315]

its despicable the way people ae so baffled by levys BS.
How dare you bitch about the salarys of our police-
THEY RISK THEIR LIVES DAILY you want to cut costs on that?
how dare you!
How about the welfare fraud-
the single persons living off welfare GO DOWN TO ANY SOCIAL SRVICE OFFICE and meet the face of welfare - those are COUNTY dollars being speant so SINGLE PEOPLE can get their bills paid and fraud the sytem by working off the books while doing so- how about all the KIDS (18-40) that the county PAYS RENT TO THEIR PARENTS JUST BECAUSE THEY CANT GET A JOB OR CHOOSE TO LIVE IN AND OUT OF REHABS,
OUR POLICE ARE UNDERPAID IF YOU ASK ME, and you are despicable for saying anything else.
What about the money spent on HOUSING SEX OFFENDERS?($90 buck a day for motels? even the trailers how much $ do you think that costs????)
Or Emergency Housing - for persons who knowingly move their family places they cant afford and then live free for MONTHS AND MONTHS on the taxpayer dollar? ( Some shelter costs are over TEN THOUSAND DOLLARS A MONTH- thats right i said THOUSAND!! and that is ONE room in a shelter housing ONE family)

oh then their is the MILLIONS spent on " affordable housing" SECTION 8 and town programs.

Yeah -
Levy is certainly for the people- JUST NOT HARD WORKING PEOPLE.

Get your head out of your As$- stop watching FOX news and come back to reality.

If the police are underpaid why are there 25,000 people lined up for the job?
Not because its underpaid!
All the rest of the stuff you listed is fine, has nothing to do with police salaries. Costs can be reined in all over, including police salaries and benefits.

[Unregistered2354514]

Please the Police are underpaid? What planet do you live on. There are a crapload of them making over 160,000.00 a year. Most make over 100,000 or more. I won't say they are overpaid, I respect the job they have to do and I sure as heck don't want to do it. But to say they are underpaid is a joke.

[3434]

its despicable the way people ae so baffled by levys BS.

No argument here.

How dare you bitch about the salarys of our police-
THEY RISK THEIR LIVES DAILY you want to cut costs on that?


Come on. Of course the police have an obligation to keep costs under control. And that includes salaries and benefits. I happen to believe that present compensation is fair, but it should always be scrutinized. That's just good government.

How about the welfare fraud........

What about famine in Biafra? Stick to the topic.

OUR POLICE ARE UNDERPAID IF YOU ASK ME, and you are despicable for saying anything else.

I would NEVER call a citizen dispicable for questioning government costs. What is dispicable is how Levy uses this issue to further his political agenda by demonizing hard working public servants.

Yeah - Levy is certainly for the people- JUST NOT HARD WORKING PEOPLE.

Levy is for Levy. He's not for the Democrats, the Republicans, those who loyally supported him, and most certainly not for the people. Mr. Levy is only good at complaining about everyone else and tapping into public discontent. He will never change. And that's a shame, because he has accomplished some good things. Unfortunately they are far outweighed by the damage that he has caused this county.

[Unregistered5678]

Its your lucky day, I have my Brookhaven tax bill in front of me
Here is the breakout..Guess what ..Police is #2
Now for the teachers, or at least cut the administration numbers, and their salaries

school 49.95%
library 6.19%
county 1.05%
police 12.21%
mta 0.05%
town 1.63%
highway 0.95%
town 0.53%
highway 4.22%
bond act 0.58%
recycling 10.10%
fire 9.25%
lighting 0.63%
real prop 0.34%
real prop 2.27%
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
POLICE TAX 12.21%

COUNTY TAX 1.05%
Lets see what you get for that:

District Attorney's Office
DPW
Health Dept
Social Services
Sheriff's Dept
Medical Examiner
County Clerk
County Treasurer
County Attorney
Labor Relations
Labor Department
Consumer Affairs
Civil Service Dept
Legislature
County Executive
Parks Department
Board of Elections
Probation
Corrections

AND probably a few more I can think of right now.

[Stop talking BS]

If the police are underpaid why are there 25,000 people lined up for the job?
Not because its underpaid!
All the rest of the stuff you listed is fine, has nothing to do with police salaries. Costs can be reined in all over, including police salaries and benefits.

Why?? Did you know about 75% of SCPD are former NYPD. They were city cops back when NYPD made nothing. They werent taking police jobs back then for the luxurious salary. Many of the cops in SCPD were NYPD cops back before the Volpe incident and The amadou diallo incident. That was when 50,000 people would take every NYPD exam to become underpaid cops!

They lined up and still do because they wanted to be cops!

If you take this job because you want the salary regardless of where it is you will not last if being a cop is truly not what you want. Saw it in the city and see it in Suffolk, every academy class the guys who dont belong there are either weeded out or quit. Yes Ive seen at least a couple quit every class, even in Suffolk!

[Unregistered12eerw45y]

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
POLICE TAX 12.21%

COUNTY TAX 1.05%
Lets see what you get for that:

District Attorney's Office
DPW
Health Dept
Social Services
Sheriff's Dept
Medical Examiner
County Clerk
County Treasurer
County Attorney
Labor Relations
Labor Department
Consumer Affairs
Civil Service Dept
Legislature
County Executive
Parks Department
Board of Elections
Probation
Corrections

AND probably a few more I can think of right now.

Could this guy possibly talk any more shit out of his ass?

[Unregistered4321]

Why?? Did you know about 75% of SCPD are former NYPD. They were city cops back when NYPD made nothing. They werent taking police jobs back then for the luxurious salary. Many of the cops in SCPD were NYPD cops back before the Volpe incident and The amadou diallo incident. That was when 50,000 people would take every NYPD exam to become underpaid cops!

They lined up and still do because they wanted to be cops!

If you take this job because you want the salary regardless of where it is you will not last if being a cop is truly not what you want. Saw it in the city and see it in Suffolk, every academy class the guys who dont belong there are either weeded out or quit. Yes Ive seen at least a couple quit every class, even in Suffolk!

And what does that prove? They left for the money. And the original statement still holds true, if they were underpaid there would not be 25,000 lined up for the job. Simple laws of supply and demand. Abuses have to stop in the disability retirement claims, pensions should not include overtime, especially overloaded in the last 3 years. The system needs to change. Local communities cannot afford the overhead taxes they have to pay, 60 % of which are police and education.

[UnregisteredTime has come]

With out the legislators,suffolk county would be a gost town if Levy had his way...Thank god for them....

[Unregistered21212]

With out the legislators,suffolk county would be a gost town if Levy had his way...Thank god for them....

GO TO A MEETING, THEN SPEAK !!! they are a joke

[Unregisteredaaaaaa]

GO TO A MEETING, THEN SPEAK !!! they are a joke

Are they? Have you been to a meeting?

Watch the meetings on the PBA's website. They make Dormer look like an idiot every month. Levy won't show his face there because he doesn't want to be shown up.

[Unregisteredinthepocket]

Are they? Have you been to a meeting?

Watch the meetings on the PBA's website. They make Dormer look like an idiot every month. Levy won't show his face there because he doesn't want to be shown up.

HAHA the pba's website, what a joke !!! even when you take things out of context like on the pba web site, it still stinks CORRUPTION. Hey brainwashed cop, go back to the "police issues" section. I have attended meetings and the legislature is bought and paid for! ALL please go to one (meeting) and make a opinion for yourself.

[Unregistered23wergtws]

HAHA the pba's website, what a joke !!! even when you take things out of context like on the pba web site, it still stinks CORRUPTION. Hey brainwashed cop, go back to the "police issues" section. I have attended meetings and the legislature is bought and paid for! ALL please go to one (meeting) and make a opinion for yourself.

I just looked at the PBAs website like the post suggested. Wow!! What are you talking about. Dormer really comes across like a complete fool, The legislature seems completely frustrated with Dormers obvious games, and the PBA speakers all make sense.

You obviously have a serious problem with police!

[Unregistered21231232131]

Why they struggle to get any actual candidates for the NYPD at 91K+? Yes they are very well paid. Yes they respong almost entirely SOLO to most calls, not double cars like the city. So 182K vs 120K. As well look at numbers of cops per person in area and the city has suffolk by 4 to 1.

First of all, top pay for a city cop is only about 76k. That 91k number comes from adding in night shiff differential for a midnight guy + 20 years longevity + holidy pay + uniform allowance + everything else.

If you compare apples to apples, you have to compare NYPD's 76k to SCPD's 108k (which is their base, without extras). There's about a 30k difference. If you add in the extras, it brings NYPD to 91 and SCPD to probably 128k or so, about a 40k difference.

SC PBA seems to always want to compare their base pay without extras to NYPD's pay with all the bells and whistles, so the difference doesn't look so glaring.

NYPD did have a recruiting problem when starting pay was 25k and top pay 65k. There is no problem now.

[34343]

and make a opinion for yourself.

I certainly have an opinion of your native intelligence.

[Unregistered111]

First of all, top pay for a city cop is only about 76k. That 91k number comes from adding in night shiff differential for a midnight guy + 20 years longevity + holidy pay + uniform allowance + everything else.

If you compare apples to apples, you have to compare NYPD's 76k to SCPD's 108k (which is their base, without extras). There's about a 30k difference. If you add in the extras, it brings NYPD to 91 and SCPD to probably 128k or so, about a 40k difference.

SC PBA seems to always want to compare their base pay without extras to NYPD's pay with all the bells and whistles, so the difference doesn't look so glaring.

NYPD did have a recruiting problem when starting pay was 25k and top pay 65k. There is no problem now.

What He Said!!!!!!

[Unregisteredwell]

Cops walk home with $120,000.00 a year! Not to mention all the perks. This is a dangerous,hard and taxing job. But qualified candidates would be lined up to do this job @ $85,000. The pba is too strong. Responsible fiscal spending needs to take priority. The Legislators ARE in the pocket for the pba and it is sickening.

Actually qualified candidates are lined up to do the job at 47,000 a year starting pay. The trouble is Levy has not hired any of them despite the additional taxes you are paying to do so. 75 cops are going to retire next month from SCPD, which is already at bare bones manpower. It would take 5 months for a class of recruits to hit the street if they were hired today. That puts us at Nov/Dec,and another round of numerous retirements will follow in Jan 2011.
Can you see yet that public safety is NOT a priority for Steve Levy?

[Unregistered345]

Actually qualified candidates are lined up to do the job at 47,000 a year starting pay. The trouble is Levy has not hired any of them despite the additional taxes you are paying to do so. 75 cops are going to retire next month from SCPD, which is already at bare bones manpower. It would take 5 months for a class of recruits to hit the street if they were hired today. That puts us at Nov/Dec,and another round of numerous retirements will follow in Jan 2011.
Can you see yet that public safety is NOT a priority for Steve Levy?

Need help from the PBA, give up desk jobs for civilians, or instead of giving disability retirements have them perform desk jobs, plus there are other ways to save money to hire actual street cops

[Unregisteredmemberofcabal]

Need help from the PBA, give up desk jobs for civilians, or instead of giving disability retirements have them perform desk jobs, plus there are other ways to save money to hire actual street cops

Sh!T! I wish we had thought of that! You should run for county exec. Or maybe just get appointed to the brain trust. Then again, dannyboy doesn't like any competition, maybe you could be an independent consultant, these ideas you have, are so innovative man, you shouldnt waste them

[Unregistered2589]

Sh!T! I wish we had thought of that! You should run for county exec. Or maybe just get appointed to the brain trust. Then again, dannyboy doesn't like any competition, maybe you could be an independent consultant, these ideas you have, are so innovative man, you shouldnt waste them

Those are the obvious ones, , just scraping the surface. Oh no, I have no designs on the CE job, or a union position, thank you.

Here is the problem people, facing this county every budget season

http://www.newsday.com/long-island/state-squeezes-li-give-us-90m-more-for-pensions-1.1995306

This is now overhead, which rises yearly, at a phenomal rate, so where are we going to get the money to pay them?

[Unregistered33]

Those are the obvious ones, , just scraping the surface. Oh no, I have no designs on the CE job, or a union position, thank you.

Here is the problem people, facing this county every budget season

http://www.newsday.com/long-island/state-squeezes-li-give-us-90m-more-for-pensions-1.1995306

This is now overhead, which rises yearly, at a phenomal rate, so where are we going to get the money to pay them?


"The anticipated increase for 2011 stems from the market collapse in 2008 and 2009"

....again caused by the WALL STREET CRIMINALS...not UNIONS!

[Unregistered321]

"The anticipated increase for 2011 stems from the market collapse in 2008 and 2009"

....again caused by the WALL STREET CRIMINALS...not UNIONS!

Sorry , check again, the increase from 2001 to 2010 is shocking,

But you also accepted the gains from wall street and didn't complain either,
pensions over 100k per year are obscene, with life expectancies soaring, taxpayers might have to pay 30 or 40 years woth of a 100k year pension, no wonder communities are broke

[Unregistered9876]

Sorry , check again, the increase from 2001 to 2010 is shocking,

But you also accepted the gains from wall street and didn't complain either,
pensions over 100k per year are obscene, with life expectancies soaring, taxpayers might have to pay 30 or 40 years woth of a 100k year pension, no wonder communities are broke

http://rocnow.com/article/editorials/20106130312