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Hawkshaw
04-03-2005, 04:33 PM
I think this is a pretty good story and should be of interest
to all the good citizens of Suffolk County, especially the members
of the SCPD. I can only wonder why the Press hasn't picked this one
up and tried to do an in-depth expose on the SCPD and DA office.

Some of what I will tell you is fact. Some is supposition
based on fact. Most of it is documented by various sources open
to the public in one form or other.

The story starts with a stock swindler once doing business
out of a Hauppague, NY office. In 1991 he was banned from trading
due to shady practices. This didn't seem to stop him because he
continued running his and his father's stock firm even though he
was banned from doing so. His efforts earns him a conviction for
another stock swindle. Before going further I should note that
this crook told a friend of mine that he makes a living forming
companys, then going public and stealing the money.

Sometime in the late 1990's the guy is befriending cops from
Suffolk County and other locales as they fall into his thieving
path. One of those cops he meets is the kid who went to jail for
selling drugs. You know who he is. I know the kid. Nice enough
but he had stars in his eyes. He thought he was going to be big
in the entertainment industry. Even saw himself as a movie star
someday. The crook wined and dined him. Probably with the kid's
and the kid's family own invested money in the crooks newest
enterprise. Took the kid to the Havana Club, took him to Hollywood.
The crook even made the kid's father a Director of a new entertainment
company. Also, in that company was a SCPD detective. They had a
web site and the full monty. Only problem was the crook kept on
wacking the company names and obscuring what was what. It went
from Prelude, to Big Dawg, to Harbour to Stapleton Studios.

Money was being raised by cops ( see two above ) from other
cops, their families and other citizens of Suffolk County. It was
being raised by a convicted stock swindler waiting to go to jail.
So how does a guy avoid going to jail? He befriends some cops,
lays some traps and offers his services to the anyone interested
so it can be sold to the US attorney for consideration. BTW, it
is my opinion based on a track record of the swindler that the
newest venture will be just another scam with investors losing
their money. Whether the ultimate goal of forming a movie studio
is met or not, the original investors ( cops and citizens ) are
going to lose their money. My guess is that the investors lost
about $2M that went completely south when NYC Mayorsaw the folly
of a deal that his predecessor hammered out with the crooks that
Bloomberg withdraw all support for building and running a studio
on Staten Island.

The concerned studio made a lot of noise and lawsuits, or threats
of lawsuits stating that the stock swindler had nothing to do with
this enterprise. They also said the swindler had nothing to do with
cooperating with Suffolk DA office in the investigation of police
officers. It was a lie and easily provable both then and now.

The swindler is scheduled to go to jail in the Spring of 2002.
He even has an inmate number. Time to get busy. On Christmas Eve,
2001 he calls SCPD IAB and reports to them that his house was
burglarized and he believes it was his cop friend who did the job.
He must get the interest of IAB so they can go further. There
are some who now believe the burglary is a farce and it is possible
there was insurance involved. That is only a guess. But from what I
know of the cop I can tell you he ain't got brain 1 to pull off a
burglary on an alarmed house and break open a safe. That much I
am sure of. The guy makes another call on Christmas Day and attempts
to sink everybody he ever met. He is such a good citizen. The ball
starts rolling. Enter DA Spota.

Spota takes office on January 2002. One of the first people
he puts in his office is the detective who sat on the board of the
company the swindler was involved with. The detective is now a boss
and he also had at least $40K investment in the company. The swindler
becomes a working informant and I can only assume the new boss is now
handling his partner in the movie business as a police informer! This,
in my opinion, is wild.

By the timelines involved I will assume that the swindler continues
to raise money for the movie studio while working as an informant for the
DA under the care of the detective boss. The movie deal with NYC doesn't
fall apart until late 2002.

In essence it is my opinion that the crook was allowed to operate
under the protection of the DA and his friend in the office all for the
greater good of locking up cops. If ttue, it is simply an outrage, and
may be criminal.

I should also note that the detective boss in the DA office did
come to his senses and asked for his money back. He did get it back and
that is well documented with a cancelled check and other identifying means.
The boss was so anxious to get his money back that he dispatched one of
his own detectives to pick up the check.

While there are many out there,including investment companies, cops,
and citizens who have yet to get their money back, a supervising detective
in the DA's office, a supervisor who probably handled the informant/thief.
got his money back while others are still fighting to get theirs.

Funny part in this story is the crook had his house wired both
with video and audio by a private contractor to suck cops and others into
his web and when the time came to pay the contractor the contractor got
stiffed.

Why do I throw the PBA into this story? Because they HAD to know
what was going on and they never raised their voice in protest that a
DA would allow a convicted criminal to take money from other cops and
allow it to happen.

baba o
04-03-2005, 04:57 PM
PBA horror? tell us about it. How does the vice presidents mother win a Mercedes Benz in a raffle to raise money for a paralyzed member?

guester
04-03-2005, 05:14 PM
The same way Felon Ed Morris Sr wins large $ raffle with DA picking winning ticket.

04-03-2005, 05:34 PM
What's his inmate number? Where is he...Federal State or is clubbing it on Long Island?

Hawkshaw
04-03-2005, 06:33 PM
I can tell you for a fact I saw the guy's federal inmate awaiting his arrival. The little prick only had to do a year in Club Fed but the weasel couldn' t do it so he set up cops.

Last I heard he is free as a bird and my guess is he is continuing his robbing from the unsuspected.

Keep in mind to all you rumor mongers ( I was a cop myself :) that the drug investigation that put a SCPD cop in jail. A NYC sergeant likewise. Two NYS troo[ers in deep bleep came from this guy and NOT from another cop as suspected in some quarters. I can tell you for a fact it came from the civilian rat who bought himself a free pass from jail.

As we speak a NYS trooper,the brother of the jailed SCPD cop just went to trial on 3 misdeamonrs. He beat one of them and the other two went 10 - 2 for acquittal. Rumor has it that this miserable DA wants to retry the hung portions of a mis. trial. That has yet to be confirmed but I am confident that at this point my information is true.

What a truly miserable bastard this DA truly is. Not only did he put one son of a family in jail he wants to ruin the other kid as well. The family went for over 250K for monies they lost with the swindler but another bucketfull of cash for lawyers.

You might note the trooper was offered an ACOD with no jail time and he refused electing to to trial.

What makes this DA so ironic and disgusting is that he has on his PD team a ranking member who has a file in IAB that could choke a horse. I got that on what I believe to be highly reliable sources. Is Spota a stand up guy for taking an IAB cop of the month or is he a fool for doing so?

I guess you can't argue with an 800lb gorilla.

04-03-2005, 07:59 PM
I take it on a reliable source that S. is cooperating w/ SCPD IA/DA et.al. I wouldn't doubt it if you start to get some unwelcome attention your way.

My crystal ball tells me this thread will be deleted pretty soon by the above entities.

Hawkshaw
04-03-2005, 08:34 PM
Nope, I know very little about SCPD other than an isolated situation. It was then I have taken an interest in SCPD and the DA office.

That miserable little man fired a guy who worked there that I knew very well. A real gentleman. Guy wouldn't hurt a fly. He had a high ranking job there and did his job he got paid for, ie. weed out corruption. Working under the then DA he locked up the Sheriff who is a friend of Spota. First one of 5 that got fired was him. He, a man of little ego said OK I lose the big job but willing to stay under my civil service rank and go back to the trenches. Spota made it impossible.

This DA is a first class prick. His friends can do whatever but watch out if you aren't on his best pal list. PC Dormer must know that because he seems like a stooge.

As far as the unwelcome attention. F..k EM. Can't do anything to me no matter how hard they try. I even live in Nassau.

Guest 26
04-03-2005, 09:00 PM
Interesting discussion...

You are right on target about the Movie Studio guy. He was a first class loser who when got caught, told the DA he could give some information about some dirty cops which helped him out.

Problem is you seem to be taking blame away from the SCPD cop who was arrested. Yea he was set up.. BUT.. he was doing some pretty bad things and pretty much deserved what he got. I don't feel bad that he was arrested... but I do feel bad that he made some bad choices along the way. Getting involved in the "Hollywood" lifestyle usually involves drugs and other criminal activity. Message here - make the choice between law enforcement and some other lifestyle. He couldn't do that and it caught up to him.

As far as the DA.. not too sure how involved he is here (beyond prosecuting it of course). But there is a post that talks about the SCPD boss working over there having an IAB record.. thats completely accurate. He should have been fired years ago.

04-03-2005, 09:12 PM
I take it on a reliable source that scarpato. is cooperating w/ SCPD IA/DA et.al. I wouldn't doubt it if you start to get some unwelcome attention your way.

My crystal ball tells me this thread will be deleted pretty soon by the above entities.


Very interesting. I was the poster of this post and I didn't mention the name scarpato. I wonder who changed my post from S. to scarpato?

04-03-2005, 09:15 PM
I take it on a reliable source that scarpato. is cooperating w/ SCPD IA/DA et.al. I wouldn't doubt it if you start to get some unwelcome attention your way.

My crystal ball tells me this thread will be deleted pretty soon by the above entities.


Very interesting. I was the poster of this post and I didn't mention the name scarpato. I wonder who changed my post from scarpato. to scarpato?

Here we go again. I wonder who has changed it twice from M.Schw---- to scarpato?

Hawkshaw
04-04-2005, 12:22 AM
The cop made his choices and of course they were terrible. The cop was a weak minded individual who succumbed to temptation. I don't think he would have gotten as bad as he got if he didn't get a big push from the informant RMW. I just hate to see young guys ruin their lives.

I may also point out that the cop was out on disability and wanted out. The fool must have thought he was out when he lost his marbles. I knew the kid.

When the kid started losing it I made some inquires and remarkably I found out the kid has big problems brewing. I went to an organization inside/outside the department. I just don't want to start another pissing match by telling you where I went. Told them the problems and told him the kid was a target. Rein him in before he hurts himself. It was the appropriate place to go and would be the place to go if I was in trouble. Enough said. The wise men at this place told me nothing other than they made a phone call to check my information and told me the kid was clean. Nine months later he was wearing handcuffs.

As to the guy in the DA office with the folders that could choke a horse in IAB. I mean not standing in judgement of the guy because maybe all the kites are false. To give one the benefit of the doubt but how does this 'incorruptible' DA allow himself to pick a player who has such a record?

The DA is a disgrace and I think many members in his police squad have allowed themselves to be whores to please this man.

Hawkshaw
04-04-2005, 10:01 AM
I can only comment on what I believe to be true. I understand and believe the kid may have been abusing coke and steriods. Steroids, no big deal. It should be a personal choice. However it is still illegal. Coke. That's another story but it should be grounds for discharge. What made this situation with the cop worse is the cop was approached many times to provide coke to the NYC undercovers who were posing as investors in the movie studio. The informant pleaded with the cop to make his connections and get coke for these very important people. Do the right thing.

The kid was already up to his eyeballs with his own investment and more so with his family investment. He made the accomodation. Not that it is right but I hear the cop refused many times over a long period of time.

There is no consistency in the SCPD program. I recently heard that a CO of a precinct just did get fired for cocaine abuse. He was in that situation many times before. What the hell gives out there?

Steroids use? There is no doubt in my mind the PD knows of abuse and had many opportunities to investigate abuse of steroids by it's members. It appears they did not for whatever reason.

curious 2
04-04-2005, 11:03 AM
Who got fired? Not a CO of a precinct

04-04-2005, 11:16 AM
Who got fired? Not a CO of a precinct

That Coke head is still on the job and the CO of a Pct. that straddles Islip/Brookhaven Towns.

04-04-2005, 04:41 PM
I can only comment on what I believe to be true. I understand and believe the kid may have been abusing coke and steriods. Steroids, no big deal. It should be a personal choice. However it is still illegal. Coke. That's another story but it should be grounds for discharge. What made this situation with the cop worse is the cop was approached many times to provide coke to the NYC undercovers who were posing as investors in the movie studio. The informant pleaded with the cop to make his connections and get coke for these very important people. Do the right thing.

The kid was already up to his eyeballs with his own investment and more so with his family investment. He made the accomodation. Not that it is right but I hear the cop refused many times over a long period of time.

There is no consistency in the SCPD program. I recently heard that a CO of a precinct just did get fired for cocaine abuse. He was in that situation many times before. What the hell gives out there?

Steroids use? There is no doubt in my mind the PD knows of abuse and had many opportunities to investigate abuse of steroids by it's members. It appears they did not for whatever reason.

Just to confirm - He WAS using Steroids and Cocaine. And it's not a personal choice - its illegal - and he is a SCPD officer. I don't want to hear anything about discharge... he was a crooked cop who makes all other cops look bad. He deserved what he got.

And if hes such a good guy - how come after he was arrested (which is just a funny story in itself for those of you that know how it went down) he sat there, pissed himself and ratted out his own brother.

I feel bad he made these choices. He was a good guy from a good family and had a lot going for him. But every cop should be personally offended by his actions.

Hawkshaw
04-04-2005, 07:31 PM
I ain't defending the guy by any means. I see you know your sheeeet because your script on how it went down is the way I heard it too, including giving up his own brother.

I knew the kid and truth is he was in a job he never belonged in the first place. His parents and family didn't deserve this and I am afraid they will suffer for a very long time if not forever.

If you read my comments about steroids you would have read that in my opinion steroid use should ( could ) be a personal decision BUT I also said they are illegal and that is the name of that tune.

It also seems to me from the information I have gathered is the PD had more than enough information to go forward with finding and dealing with steroid users and they appear to have chosen not to. They had a lot of names, dates, and places and it seems they did nothing in many cases. I think that makes a statement all in itself.

As far as the CO who got fired that is what I heard and not confirmed. I did hear it is a known fact the person did have an existing problem and he got another chance.