SUFFOLK COUNTY POLICE AND DA ISSUES

[Hawkshaw]

The recent events concerning the Tankleff bid for a new trial and the actions of the district attorney's office are disturbing.
On one hand we have ADA Lato ridiculing the witnesses of the defense by stating essentially ' how can you trust the word of a criminal'. He is referring to the testimony of a Mr. Harris. While it is true that Mr. Harris is a convicted felon he is non less a felon than the two felons who testified for the prosecution in contradiction of Mr. Harris's testimony. The main difference of the testimony of the defense witness and the prosecution's witnesses is that the defense witness seems to have no reason to lie while the prosecutions witnesses do.
For some reason the district attorney feels their witnesses are credible and the defense witnesses are not.

Recently the Suffolk County DA indicted a former Suffolk County police officer for aiding and abetting a burglary ring. His case relies heavily on three convicted felons whose reputation and character are as equally bad as the Tankleff witnesses. So why are the three witnesses in the police case credible, the witnesses pro prosecution in the Tankleff case credible, and the defense witness in the Tankleff case not credible. And why are four civilian witnesses without any criminal record who came forth to testify for the defense also not credible?

In the police officer case the district attorney had interviewed the three felons at least 4 months before the police officer received his accidental disablilty pension. It was a time the DA had the most leverage to extract information from the police officer as the pension was in the balance. You see this indictment was all about getting the police officer to testify against a civilian friend who has a case in Suffolk County for conspiracy to buy and possess steriods. That case started off as a felony and after court motions has been reduced to misdeamnors.

The police officer was approached in 2004 by detectives from the DA's office seeking his cooperation. They told him that " The DA doesn't want you he wants ------" They were going to give a 'corrupt' police officer a free pass simply for the testimony against a civilian in a misdeamnor trial. The police officer declined to give any testimony against the civilian, true or otherwise and he got indicted on 15 counts, mostly felonies. Imagine that. Giving a 'corrupt' officer a free pass. So how serious were the crimes he is alleged to have committed in the first place?

This DA and his police officers are out of control. They lie, cheat, and manufacture evidence to suit their own sense of justice.

This is not new in Suffolk County as we in law enforcement ( I was a NYC detective for 29 years) believed this to be true for a very long time now. One only has to go back to various SIC investigations into the conduct of the police ( confessions) and DA ( illegal wiretaps) to understand what I am talking about.

So why are the three witnesses in the police case credible, the witnesses pro prosecution in the Tankleff case credible,

Did lightbulb all of a sudden go off in your head? Suffolk County is Corrupt to the nth degree. Thats reality! I always Suffolk is run mafia style. Suffolk can make or bend laws to suit them. And you and I my friend can either keep paying their salaries or move. And make sure EVERYONE knows by posting on chat boards here and over at channel 7 news too :lol:

[Hawkshaw]

[quote]So why are the three witnesses in the police case credible, the witnesses pro prosecution in the Tankleff case credible,

There are three witnesses in the police officer case. Number 1 wintess is facing up to 14 years in prison. He has admitted to many burglaries, a home invasion with force, an armed robbery, and a arson in an inhabited building. He gets a free pass for testifying against a police officer. A police officer who was asked by the DA to testify against a civilian in a misdeamnor case, and either refused because he knew nothing or didn't want to be in the position of lying to get his own ass out of the fire.

Witness number 2 is a proven liar and serial criminal. Witness 2 is a self admitted liar and perjurer when he admitted and signed a police report that he took the gun portion of a burglary charge he committed with #1 and one other as he was the least of the felons and would do less time. His 'reward' was to be $200K of cash and property for taking the hit. So now #2 pops up again with his own version of what happened so he can 'corroborate' the testimony of #1 and somehow make No 1's testimony more credible. Number 2 remains in jail while #1 is allowed to go back to the sunny environs of his southern home.

Witness #3. I haven't a clue where he is coming from.

I can tell you that in my career I personally worked for three distingushed district attorneys. They would be Frank Hogan, Richard Kuh, and Robert Morgenthau. So I think I qualify a bit when I say I think I know what a good DA is supposed to be about. Tom Spota is not a good DA.

PS. During the course of this investigation two Suffolk detectives assigned to Spota's office testified to the fact they gave the police officer his Miranda Rights. They didn't. Not that the police officer made any incriminating statements, but the police are so out of control they would press the issue out of routine and lie about Miranda. The fact the cop didn't sign a Miranda Rights form doesn't seem to be a problem for Suffolk's Finest. They will lie anyway.

Now I am not naive about Miranda. I was a detective myself for 29 years, but when one goes to the extreme of fabricating facts about Miranda when a cop is involved kind of sickens me.

So why are the three witnesses in the police case credible, the witnesses pro prosecution in the Tankleff case credible,

Did lightbulb all of a sudden go off in your head? Suffolk County is Corrupt to the nth degree. Thats reality! I always Suffolk is run mafia style. Suffolk can make or bend laws to suit them. And you and I my friend can either keep paying their salaries or move. And make sure EVERYONE knows by posting on chat boards here and over at channel 7 news too :lol:
YEAH posting will change the worl, its true

[Hawkshaw]

So why are the three witnesses in the police case credible, the witnesses pro prosecution in the Tankleff case credible,

Did lightbulb all of a sudden go off in your head? Suffolk County is Corrupt to the nth degree. Thats reality! I always Suffolk is run mafia style. Suffolk can make or bend laws to suit them. And you and I my friend can either keep paying their salaries or move. And make sure EVERYONE knows by posting on chat boards here and over at channel 7 news too :lol:
YEAH posting will change the worl, its true

YEAH posting will change the worl, its true

I assume the idiot meant world. What I was attempting to get across was not only posting but telling everyone you meet about the schiesters who work for Suffolk county gov't. In other words GET THE WORD OUT.

YEAH posting will change the worl, its true

I assume the idiot meant world. What I was attempting to get across was not only posting but telling everyone you meet about the schiesters who work for Suffolk county gov't. In other words GET THE WORD OUT.
how about getting the word out about child abusers?

That too but Im aiming to ensure that police & deputies who are pointing fingers at innocent TAXPAYERS when in reality their beating their own kids! The law's gotta look inside their closets and oust them so the TAXPAYER isn't stuck paying for these county LIABILITIES!

By the way, for a someone who's labeled child abuser I di a damn good job! No drugs or pregnancies. Can you say the same?[/quote]

That too but Im aiming to ensure that police & deputies who are pointing fingers at innocent TAXPAYERS when in reality their beating their own kids! The law's gotta look inside their closets and oust them so the TAXPAYER isn't stuck paying for these county LIABILITIES!

By the way, for a someone who's labeled child abuser I di a damn good job! No drugs or pregnancies. Can you say the same?[/quote]
What about not not so innocent taxpayers who beat their kids and fight cops
HMMMMMMM

That too but Im aiming to ensure that police & deputies who are pointing fingers at innocent TAXPAYERS when in reality their beating their own kids! The law's gotta look inside their closets and oust them so the TAXPAYER isn't stuck paying for these county LIABILITIES!

By the way, for a someone who's labeled child abuser I di a damn good job! No drugs or pregnancies. Can you say the same?[/quote]Not that good of a job
My kids are grown, one marriage, and the best part, I still talk to them and see my grandkids(and no suicide attempts either)

What about not not so innocent taxpayers who beat their kids and fight cops HMMMMMMM

I've never fought with the police. Get with the program nitwit, it's your BOSS who loves me.

Not that good of a job
My kids are grown, one marriage, and the best part, I still talk to them and see my grandkids(and no suicide attempts either)[/quote]

Low shot, bad karma. Talk to me in 10-15 years we can do a follow up on whos kids are mentally fit and made it and whos didn't. And I don't mean by piggy backin off the old mans clout either. If the old faggot even has any.

What about not not so innocent taxpayers who beat their kids and fight cops HMMMMMMM

I've never fought with the police. Get with the program nitwit, it's your BOSS who loves me.

Not that good of a job
My kids are grown, one marriage, and the best part, I still talk to them and see my grandkids(and no suicide attempts either)

Low shot, bad karma. Talk to me in 10-15 years we can do a follow up on whos kids are mentally fit and made it and whos didn't. And I don't mean by piggy backin off the old mans clout either. If the old faggot even has any.[/quote]
look right now, my kids are grown living with their families, doing well, i have grandkids, I see them whenever I want, because I never beat them, never got a divorce, they are fine on their own, did I help them, of course, but now they're 30+ years old, they dont need my help. What bad karma, how my Grandkids turn out?
In 15 years my kids will be retired and having grandkids of their own, and I will still be on good terms with them. And unlike you, my life and family wont be a joke of a message board or 3 or the 3rd precinct locker room, or the cahalan complex, or the da's office

(and no suicide attempts either)

I meant you should get your facts straight. Thats bad karma to fabricate things about others children when you have no clue what really happened. Got it limp dick?

(and no suicide attempts either)

I meant you should get your facts straight. Thats bad karma to fabricate things about others children when you have no clue what really happened. Got it limp dick?
Ahhh now the story changes, you know you and your dead end family cant compare to my family and their decent upbringing, you know within 10 years you'll lose all contact with your children,

Got it limp dick
If you did talk to your daughter she would beg to differ on that point.

If you did talk to your daughter she would beg to differ on that point.

You seem to be doing ok with that. One day she'll realize your all fucked up criminals yourselves. We were all programmed to trust the law.

If you did talk to your daughter she would beg to differ on that point.

You seem to be doing ok with that. One day she'll realize your all fucked up criminals yourselves. We were all programmed to trust the law.
Where did I ever say I was a cop?

If you did talk to your daughter she would beg to differ on that point.

You seem to be doing ok with that. One day she'll realize your all fucked up criminals yourselves. We were all programmed to trust the law.She got to trust someone, lord knows it can no longer be you