Riverhead PD and SCPD Merger

[EN4CER]

I know everyone has heard that the rumor Riverhead Police are going to merge with Suffolk County? I’m one of the 79 sworn Officers out here and it’s been a hot topic of car to car discussion. I’m just curious what the scoop is on the SCPD side. The majority of the cops here are for it (A few morons opposed) – as for the tax payers it’s a toss up. I know the ones that are graduates of John Deere University are already crying. Here’s some inside facts from our side.

The Town of Riverhead is roughly 80 square miles and is broken into 5 patrol sectors. There were 5 sectors in 1972 and there are 5 sectors today. Right now there should be at least 8 to 12.

Since 1990 the force has hovered around 72 to 75 Officers. It has never been at a level higher than 77 until now. The truth is we need at least 100 to 110 cops to operate the department efficiently. As usual, the town continues to grow but the municipalities services do not.

Since 1990 the number of complaints handled by the Riverhead Police Department has doubled to almost 27,000 a year.

The town population is approximately around 30,000 residents. This does not include the 100,000 tourists and workers that enter the township daily.

Recent studies and reports have shown that the town needs at least 110 police officers to operate effectively.

The current staffed department could handle the needs of the town in the late 1980s but now, in 2005, it is understaffed. Why because it was not allowed to grow at the same pace the town has.

Tanger Mall itself could use two cops on day and night tours almost seven days a week. It is a man power resource hog.

The current police administration is extremely busy working hard to correct the mistakes and lack of structure brought forth by the stagnant complacency of the previous administration. They have asked for more cops several times and have been declined every time by the current town board. The bottom line is that this town needs over 100 cops in order to operate efficiently without being spread out too thin. If the town government is not willing to meet the needs of the police department than please fold shop. SCPD supposedly will place over 100 cops in the township where as the town government is not willing to do the same.

The Good Ole Boy Farmer Clam Digger mentality that is still hanging on in this town needs to GO! The good ole farm town that Riverhead WAS, the one that some people still want it to be is LONG GONE. You might as well call Riverhead NEW SELDEN. Ever been down Route 58 lately? Unfortunately if this concept ever comes down to a referendum vote I fear that a good majority of the locals who are John Deere smart will vote it down thus continuing to cripple the ability of having adequate law enforcement services available to the residents of this township. Right now I feel the politicians don’t have the brass to push it to fruition and this topic will become nothing other than Urban Legend. As far as the Town Board allowing the Riverhead Police Department to hire the necessary cops, the current supervisor wanted to cut the department by 50% when he was a councilman saying we were over staffed back then. Hopefully he puts it to referendum in November (Which they don't have to do - Town Board could just declare fiscal emergency and throw in the towel) and it passes. Right now the Supervisor has to call Levy and get the ball rolling which has yet to be done. It’s a shame because the politicians have a chance to correct the mistake that Riverhead made in 1960 by not joining SCPD. If the typical political track record prevails – they’ll screw it all up as usual. Remember the Field Day Concert fiasco, parking for the Aquarium, EpCal, etc.?

So what's the scoop on the County side - any talk amongst bosses? politicians?

[thinkitthru]

It's a great idea if you are a suffolk cop and want to work east.If you live in riverhead and would like your taxes to skyrocket, have westenders who dont care about your town and want the county exec in charge of your police dept it is a great idea.

i dont see taxes skyrocket, our local taxes would go down, our county would go up.
i'd be more worried about levy running our police than anything else. i doubt he'd add patrol out here, he'd probably cut back somehow. so i doubt many scp officers would transfer out here, if anything he'd take a few away.
but at a minimum we'd have a better, modern fleet, and services.
seeing is believing, when its proposed i'd listen and judge from that

It's a great idea if you are a suffolk cop and want to work east.If you live in riverhead and would like your taxes to skyrocket, have westenders who dont care about your town and want the county exec in charge of your police dept it is a great idea.

Good point but the town politicians obviously don't care here either otherwise we would have had over 100 cops on the force by now. It's getting down to what all players in the game fear - DECISION TIME. There are 3 choices in my opinion.

1. The Town of Riverhead hires enough cops to allow the Riverhead Police Department to reach a man power level of over 100 officers.

2. If the don't want to increase man power than balance the situation out by decreasing services - No motorist assist lockouts for example.

3. Throw in the towel and hand over the keys.

The town can't afford option 1 and will reject option 2 so what are you left with - Beggars can't be Choosers. :D

If they’re worrying about paying for it – they are already – it’s called OVERTIME.

[EN4CER]

Good point but the town politicians obviously don't care here either ..............

My comment, I authored it - my bad, I forgot to set the cookie on this BB.

[outoftowner]

One factor that I don't see addressed is the long term outlook for Riverhead in general. Just FYI, my wife works in Central Suffolk Hospital so I'm pretty familiar with the town. Many parts of Riverhead are a tourist area while other parts are garbage. There simply HAS to be more cops in the town or eventually, the benefits of tourism to the area (ex. the tourist income) will decline as the area becomes less and less desirable to visit. More cops means a safer, cleaner town which attracts more tourism and therefore more income to the town. But that's a longer term benefit, and we all know how politicians are: penny wise and dollar foolish. They don't want to look ahead. The money spent by the town to increase it's force to an adequate level would pay for itself in the future. If not, the quality of life will decline and the "Bad" areas of Riverhead will breach the boundaries into what's currently the "Good" or touristy areas and cause tourism dollars to decrease while the cost of police overtime continues to increase. Just my 2 pennies worth.

[EN4CER]

One factor that I don't see addressed is the long term outlook for Riverhead in general.............

Well said Out of Towner. When are you running for Supervisor here so I can vote for you? I'll even clean out the clam shells and straw from the Supervisors Office.

8 to 12 sectors for Riverhead???? Come on! My pct in Harlem only has 3-4 sectors on a given day...if you're lucky...and the crime is 100 times worse! Get real!

[EN4CER]

8 to 12 sectors for Riverhead???? Come on! My pct in Harlem only has 3-4 sectors on a given day...if you're lucky...and the crime is 100 times worse! Get real!

Ingnorance is bliss :roll: Now I would not comment on a police situation in Harlem because I don't work there so get REAL?- Oh thats right - I forget you probably work for the "REAL Job." Well how's the REAL pay by the way?

Riverhead Town itself might not have enough POs, but they also have plently of Sheriff's rolling through town and making car stops, Southampton PD going through Riverhead daily, and a brand new NYSP Office sitting right off of the south circle. I admit I don't know much about how the other police agencies play a roll in Riverhead, but one must also think that with the Riverhead PD, Troopers, Southampton PD and Deputy Sheriff's in town on a daily basic, law enforcement shouldn't be much of an issue. :?:

8 to 12 sectors for Riverhead???? Come on! My pct in Harlem only has 3-4 sectors on a given day...if you're lucky...and the crime is 100 times worse! Get real!

Yeah and your pct. is 1.4 square miles. Stop comparing apples and oranges you citiot.

Riverhead Town itself might not have enough POs, but they also have plently of Sheriff's rolling through town and making car stops, Southampton PD going through Riverhead daily, and a brand new NYSP Office sitting right off of the south circle. I admit I don't know much about how the other police agencies play a roll in Riverhead, but one must also think that with the Riverhead PD, Troopers, Southampton PD and Deputy Sheriff's in town on a daily basic, law enforcement shouldn't be much of an issue. :?:


So what if they are around. They are not responsible for nor do they respond to heavy calls unless they stumble across it or it is a 10-91. How many State Troopers, Southampton PD, Sheriffs can you count on to be available and nearby at 1 AM? Probably none. Using that logic we shouldn't increase the number of sectors in the Police District because we can rely on Town Code Enforcement or the Environmental Conservation Police to back us up. Shaddup and go back to reading your Newsday.

Riverhead Town itself might not have enough POs, but they also have plently of Sheriff's rolling through town and making car stops, Southampton PD going through Riverhead daily, and a brand new NYSP Office sitting right off of the south circle. I admit I don't know much about how the other police agencies play a roll in Riverhead, but one must also think that with the Riverhead PD, Troopers, Southampton PD and Deputy Sheriff's in town on a daily basic, law enforcement shouldn't be much of an issue. :?:


So what if they are around. They are not responsible for nor do they respond to heavy calls unless they stumble across it or it is a 10-91. How many State Troopers, Southampton PD, Sheriffs can you count on to be available and nearby at 1 AM? Probably none. Using that logic we shouldn't increase the number of sectors in the Police District because we can rely on Town Code Enforcement or the Environmental Conservation Police to back us up. Shaddup and go back to reading your Newsday.
Whats a 10-91?

[exparkway601]

Let's not forget that different jobs are on different radio channels. If you call for help in Harlem you'll have 100 cops there within 2 minutes; call for help on the west end of 604 and you better hope your assailant is just hitting you with his white cane because even at warp 4 your backup probably isn't going to reach what's left of you for at least 10 minutes. Staying with five sectors in Riverhead is flat-out dangerous. 8)

[Pat5]

Riverhead PD is a bunch of perps

Riverhead PD is a bunch of perps

Stick to thread topic you troller!

Riverhead Town itself might not have enough POs, but they also have plently of Sheriff's rolling through town and making car stops, Southampton PD going through Riverhead daily, and a brand new NYSP Office sitting right off of the south circle. I admit I don't know much about how the other police agencies play a roll in Riverhead, but one must also think that with the Riverhead PD, Troopers, Southampton PD and Deputy Sheriff's in town on a daily basic, law enforcement shouldn't be much of an issue. :?:
Yeah but none of them are assigned 911 calls, certainly they'd stop to assist, but thats a guarantee. They have to be in the area, on the same band riverhead uses and not with a prisoner.
The troopers have 5 tops troopers on the Island

[10-75Victor]

Yea suck it up and answer your jobs...what would you do if you have a solo foot post in Browsville or East New York?

Yea suck it up and answer your jobs...what would you do if you have a solo foot post in Browsville or East New York?
Take every test out on the Island and when I made it learn not to be a paranoid, complaining miserable sob, oh I did that 10 years ago.

[eastend]

Yea suck it up and answer your jobs...what would you do if you have a solo foot post in Browsville or East New York?

Hide in a bodega for the tour. Right? Isn't that what you would do?

Take every test out on the Island and when I made it learn not to be a paranoid, complaining miserable sob, oh I did that 10 years ago.

Hide in a bodega for the tour. Right? Isn't that what you would do?

:lol: Took the words out of my mouth - well said.

[EN4CER]

I’ve posted this topic on a two other boards (More local political BBS – Towns and Villages) and interestingly enough the results are usually the same. A couple of interesting comments from some of the tax payers of Riverhead, a couple of interesting comments from some of the “Out of Towners”, and a few dull sparks from an angry city cop or two (Which are usually swatted away like a pesky mosquito). No one’s complaining here – just stating a fact. The town force was not in this situation 15 years ago when the town population was around 21,000 and we handled 15,000 to 16,000 calls per year. Now the population is over 30,000 residents not including the 100,000 that enter the town on a daily basis for purposes of work and tourism. Last year we responded to almost 27,000 calls yet the number of cops staffed by the department has remained the same. Man power is becoming an issue now and needs to be addressed – it’s a fact. Now in response to 10-74Victor’s ignorant comment -

Yea suck it up and answer your jobs...what would you do if you have a solo foot post in Browsville or East New York?

I believe you misspelled Brownsville unless there is a section in the city entitled Browsville.

I would never walk a solo foot post in Brownsville or East New York because I took the police test here in Suffolk and I PASSED. For the record I’m not knocking all of NYPD just 10-74-Victor. I agree 100% that NYPD is severely underpaid and work in by far on the most dangerous environments in the country. I tip my hat to them. Question to you – How far away is your closest back up? Sometimes ours is 10 to 12 minutes away? Every get in a physical confrontation with one of the local pillars of the community and have to wait 10 minutes for back up to arrive. I have and it is a horrible feeling – seems like an eternity. Trying to compare the two different police jobs is difficult – they’re totally different entities, with different needs and factors that effect them. That’s why usually when I hear the NYPD Union bring up an issue, and their side of the issue sounds logical, I support them. If you guys state your underpaid you wouldn’t find me posting “Answer your Jobs and Shut up.”

Oh and for the record we don’t call Incidents, Assignments, Complaints, or Calls JOBS. Job is what we do, being a Police Officer.

Anyways the original reason I posted this topic was to hear if there was any inside scoop on the SCPD side regarding the topic – not to argue with other agencies that know nothing about the internal facts of the situation and end up making the mistake of posting an irrelevant and obviously frustrated reply. 10-74Victor – If NYPD was on the verge of seriously cutting man power at the precinct where you work at – I would support you in your cause. If by chance the discussion was merging NYPD with Nassau County PD I’m curious what your reply would have been?

I’ve posted this topic on a two other boards (More local political BBS – Towns and Villages) and interestingly enough the results are usually the same. A couple of interesting comments from some of the tax payers of Riverhead, a couple of interesting comments from some of the “Out of Towners”, and a few dull sparks from an angry city cop or two (Which are usually swatted away like a pesky mosquito). No one’s complaining here – just stating a fact. The town force was not in this situation 15 years ago when the town population was around 21,000 and we handled 15,000 to 16,000 calls per year. Now the population is over 30,000 residents not including the 100,000 that enter the town on a daily basis for purposes of work and tourism. Last year we responded to almost 27,000 calls yet the number of cops staffed by the department has remained the same. Man power is becoming an issue now and needs to be addressed – it’s a fact. Now in response to 10-74Victor’s ignorant comment -

Yea suck it up and answer your jobs...what would you do if you have a solo foot post in Browsville or East New York?

I believe you misspelled Brownsville unless there is a section in the city entitled Browsville.

I would never walk a solo foot post in Brownsville or East New York because I took the police test here in Suffolk and I PASSED. For the record I’m not knocking all of NYPD just 10-74-Victor. I agree 100% that NYPD is severely underpaid and work in by far on the most dangerous environments in the country. I tip my hat to them. Question to you – How far away is your closest back up? Sometimes ours is 10 to 12 minutes away? Every get in a physical confrontation with one of the local pillars of the community and have to wait 10 minutes for back up to arrive. I have and it is a horrible feeling – seems like an eternity. Trying to compare the two different police jobs is difficult – they’re totally different entities, with different needs and factors that effect them. That’s why usually when I hear the NYPD Union bring up an issue, and their side of the issue sounds logical, I support them. If you guys state your underpaid you wouldn’t find me posting “Answer your Jobs and Shut up.”

Oh and for the record we don’t call Incidents, Assignments, Complaints, or Calls JOBS. Job is what we do, being a Police Officer.

Anyways the original reason I posted this topic was to hear if there was any inside scoop on the SCPD side regarding the topic – not to argue with other agencies that know nothing about the internal facts of the situation and end up making the mistake of posting an irrelevant and obviously frustrated reply. 10-74Victor – If NYPD was on the verge of seriously cutting man power at the precinct where you work at – I would support you in your cause. If by chance the discussion was merging NYPD with Nassau County PD I’m curious what your reply would have been?
Your assumption is that this person is actually a cop, which probably is wrong, there are a lot of posters here just trying to flame things.
If he is a city guy, he needs to grow up. We bend over backwards to help you guys out, as it should be, when you need a hand, we treat your families the way we would want ours to be treated, we meaning every county cop I know and am friends with.

[DETFORLIFE]

I for one appreciate you not lumping all the NYPD guys together. There are a lot of disgruntled guys on my job, sometimes they get a little stupid....

I for one appreciate you not lumping all the NYPD guys together. There are a lot of disgruntled guys on my job, sometimes they get a little stupid....
like the prior poster said its probably not even a cop.

I'd be more concerned if levy + dickie dormer took over that they'd shut down cars rather than add, riverhead has a decent ratio of 1 patrol cop to 6000ish perps...I mean taxpayers, Suffolk likes the ratio over 10000 to 1 on days + evenings closer to 15000 to 1 on midnites.
But on the other hand, there would be a lot of promotions, new expert advisory positions, specialized units.

[EN4CER]

I for one appreciate you not lumping all the NYPD guys together. There are a lot of disgruntled guys on my job, sometimes they get a little stupid....

I would never lump the NYPD guys together - as I stated in my reply - "For the record I’m not knocking all of NYPD just 10-74-Victor" provided he actually is a cop. I have a relative who works in the two five in Harlem and he and I have had lengthy civilized discussions comparing notes on the two jobs. I have the utmost respect for my NYPD Brothers in Blue and always will. And yes - we're not perfect - we have our share of morons too.

[EN4CER]

I'd be more concerned if levy + dickie dormer took over that they'd shut down cars rather than add ...

Good point and scary. I know Levy has cut and screwed up areas of SCPD and hopefully he is a 1 termer for you guys. The GOP has got to rally up a good candidate and broom the liberal trash out. You've got mine and my colleagues support out here.

[TOPCOP]

8 to 12 sectors for Riverhead???? Come on! My pct in Harlem only has 3-4 sectors on a given day...if you're lucky...and the crime is 100 times worse! Get real!

Your pct in Harlem is also about....1 block wide? all sector cars are doubled plus foot posts! u really dont work in harlem do u? maybe security for b-day parties at sports plus.

[Anne1]

Good post 10-75 Victor..well said... NYPD deserves more pay than Suffolk....not that I don't respect them...but even the Suffolk cops who are mostly former NYPD would agree City cops deserve more.

lotta trolls on here. city cops deserve more than suffolk. says who. they are 2 different jobs. yes nypd is underpaid, but suffolk is fairly compensated. not suffolks fault they have a real union. and as far as the nypd guy on here makin waves. suffolk cops bend over backwards for nypd guys. nypd guys have this chip on their shoulder, and they should learn to act professionally.

Good post 10-75 Victor..well said... NYPD deserves more pay than Suffolk....not that I don't respect them...but even the Suffolk cops who are mostly former NYPD would agree City cops deserve more.
I've worked both jobs and I think city deserves more money than they make. Every cop, everywhere, should be able to work one job and no side-jobs or 3. I think the bigger selling point for me was not worrying about if I actually made a arrest or had to bust someones head, whether or not I'd be on the cover of the News or endited by the am.
But they need to stop comparing themselves to the county jobs. You knew what you where getting into when you signed on. In every state you know city depts make less than Town or Village or County.
My buddy from the city went out east to a quite little village and has out grossed me every year, do I moan about it?

[brooklynrosco]

If SCPD takes over riverhead there will less Police coverage. SCPD can't even handle what it already covers. There was a study done on SCPD and how many cops it needs to patrol the county. The study said SCPD needs at min 5,000 P.O's. as for updating riverheads fleet, SCPD can't afford to fix the fleet it has now. I will vote aganist SCPD taking over Riverhead. Bigger is not better. When the city merged housing and transit the residents thought it would be better. Boy were they wrong! One more thing All you Riverhead P.O's just remember you don't have a commute since you have to live in Riverhead. If the county takes over you could be shipped out the the 1st pct. You will be the step children of the county, just like housing and transit is in the city. We still get F___ed with because we were taken over and are not considered big blue.

[aNN1]

I agree...its not that Suffolk is over paid...NYPD is just well underpaid :cry:

[ann1]

nypd guys have this chip on their shoulder, and they should learn to act professionally.


You're definetly not a cop if you think like this.

[EN4CER]

One more thing All you Riverhead P.O's just remember you don't have a commute since you have to live in Riverhead.

Not knockin you - you just don't know the inside facts. Over 1/3 of the department, probably close to 50% do not live in the township. Several live in western suffolk or further.

[TOPCOP]

If SCPD takes over riverhead there will less Police coverage. SCPD can't even handle what it already covers. There was a study done on SCPD and how many cops it needs to patrol the county. The study said SCPD needs at min 5,000 P.O's. as for updating riverheads fleet, SCPD can't afford to fix the fleet it has now. I will vote aganist SCPD taking over Riverhead. Bigger is not better. When the city merged housing and transit the residents thought it would be better. Boy were they wrong! One more thing All you Riverhead P.O's just remember you don't have a commute since you have to live in Riverhead. If the county takes over you could be shipped out the the 1st pct. You will be the step children of the county, just like housing and transit is in the city. We still get F___ed with because we were taken over and are not considered big blue.

1. Doesn't sound like you're a resident....definitely not. As for the county fleet, we dont operate vehicles over 100000 miles as a rule. Yeah a few might slip through her and there, but not too far over 100000 miles. Ever take a look at all the new cars at the Yaphank Garage? Take a look at RHD's fleet lately, or how bout the marine boat (The SS Minnow...LOL)

2. Obviously the Town would not get less coverage than they have now. Each Pct. has 12 Detectives, plus 4 Narco Detectives (God knows RHD needs all the help it can get there) and 12 plain clothes investigators. The county also has a Gang Unit (if you think there are no gang members in RHD, think again As it is now I think I see more county cars on 58 near the eway than I do RHD cars. Besides more patrols we would get more COPE, Emergency Service coverage on a full time basis, the services of their STOP DWI team, which consists of 7 Police Officers that go out every night from 8-4AM and lock up DWI's and were responsible for over 600 DWI related arrests last year from that team alone.

3. Anybody with some smarts would realize that if the merger goes through that the RHD P.o's will stay where they are. 99% of the county guys are in the pct of their choice or at least their 2nd choice.

[guest1000]

From what I hear all involved think it's a good idea. According to the County charter, the County CANNOT refuse riverhead if they request to be absorbed. Chances are, it will have to go to a vote of the people. If riverhead goes, so does Southold and shelter island, and possibly sag. It can be done. And riverhead needs it. Bad. And the PO's get the 1/60th bill...Talk it up to the residents. That's your best chance.

If SCPD takes over riverhead there will less Police coverage. SCPD can't even handle what it already covers. There was a study done on SCPD and how many cops it needs to patrol the county. The study said SCPD needs at min 5,000 P.O's. as for updating riverheads fleet, SCPD can't afford to fix the fleet it has now. I will vote aganist SCPD taking over Riverhead. Bigger is not better. When the city merged housing and transit the residents thought it would be better. Boy were they wrong! One more thing All you Riverhead P.O's just remember you don't have a commute since you have to live in Riverhead. If the county takes over you could be shipped out the the 1st pct. You will be the step children of the county, just like housing and transit is in the city. We still get F___ed with because we were taken over and are not considered big blue.

1. Doesn't sound like you're a resident....definitely not. As for the county fleet, we dont operate vehicles over 100000 miles as a rule. Yeah a few might slip through her and there, but not too far over 100000 miles. Ever take a look at all the new cars at the Yaphank Garage? Take a look at RHD's fleet lately, or how bout the marine boat (The SS Minnow...LOL)

2. Obviously the Town would not get less coverage than they have now. Each Pct. has 12 Detectives, plus 4 Narco Detectives (God knows RHD needs all the help it can get there) and 12 plain clothes investigators. The county also has a Gang Unit (if you think there are no gang members in RHD, think again As it is now I think I see more county cars on 58 near the eway than I do RHD cars. Besides more patrols we would get more COPE, Emergency Service coverage on a full time basis, the services of their STOP DWI team, which consists of 7 Police Officers that go out every night from 8-4AM and lock up DWI's and were responsible for over 600 DWI related arrests last year from that team alone.

3. Anybody with some smarts would realize that if the merger goes through that the RHD P.o's will stay where they are. 99% of the county guys are in the pct of their choice or at least their 2nd choice.
The whole concept of County Police is wrong. I would say we have about 30 or so County Police forces nationwide, of that maybe 20 only do highway patrol and specialized support to municipal forces. Nassau, Suffolk, Westchester and Miami-Dade are the only "real" county police forces.

New Jersey merged all the County Police forces into the Sheriff's Offices, same in Charleston SC, San Francisco CA, Las Vegas NV, etc

[brooklynrosco]

. Doesn't sound like you're a resident....definitely not........ I was born and rasied in Riverhead. Although I moved out of Riverhead 3 yrs ago my family is still there and I still maintain my residency. I have also have family on SCPD. The SCPD is changing and I really don't think it is for the better. As i stated before bigger is not always better.

[Selden Res.]

. Doesn't sound like you're a resident....definitely not........ I was born and rasied in Riverhead. Although I moved out of Riverhead 3 yrs ago my family is still there and I still maintain my residency. I have also have family on SCPD. The SCPD is changing and I really don't think it is for the better. As i stated before bigger is not always better.

Unless you have 1st hand knowledge how can you say SCPD is not changing for the better? If it's Levy and the commisioner you're talking about just remember... These people at the top come and go...usually with a lot of big ideas at 1st then they fade away and nobody remembers who they were. Basically these guys do not effect the men and women in the street doing the job everyday. They may have a slight effect, but they do not change the outstanding level of service these officers provide. I have had reason to call them on a few occasions once when my 4 month old was having a seizure and they were at my front door within seconds. They have been nothing but professional, helpful and a credit to their profession and I see them frequently in the area. God bless them always!

. Doesn't sound like you're a resident....definitely not........ I was born and rasied in Riverhead. Although I moved out of Riverhead 3 yrs ago my family is still there and I still maintain my residency. I have also have family on SCPD. The SCPD is changing and I really don't think it is for the better. As i stated before bigger is not always better.

Unless you have 1st hand knowledge how can you say SCPD is not changing for the better? If it's Levy and the commisioner you're talking about just remember... These people at the top come and go...usually with a lot of big ideas at 1st then they fade away and nobody remembers who they were. Basically these guys do not effect the men and women in the street doing the job everyday. They may have a slight effect, but they do not change the outstanding level of service these officers provide. I have had reason to call them on a few occasions once when my 4 month old was having a seizure and they were at my front door within seconds. They have been nothing but professional, helpful and a credit to their profession and I see them frequently in the area. God bless them always!
Yeah well in my Pct we wait 15 minutes AT LEAST for a response. Trust me, East Hampton Village has a 5 minute response time AT MOST. And they have more officers per shift on patrol then the SCPD would in a similar sized commpunity with a similar crime rate,

Face it, we dont need the SCPD.

[guestone]

first of as a current ncpd po and former nypd mos i take offence on your insult to the nypd. second what is your reference to new selden. i live in selden and on my block is a scpd 2nypd and a nysp mos so f*&k u and the pedastal u talk from i hope scpd takes over your job rolls over 78 of your guys and leaves u out

Doesn't sound like you're a resident....definitely not. As for the county fleet, we dont operate vehicles over 100000 miles as a rule. Yeah a few might slip through her and there, but not too far over 100000 miles. Ever take a look at all the new cars at the Yaphank Garage? Take a look at RHD's fleet lately, or how bout the marine boat (The SS Minnow...LOL
If your talking scpd, why does the 611 car have 116000 on it, some rookie pd10s a deer, they just popped the dent out and its still going...I know of at least 7 sector cars being driven with well over 100000 miles, im sure theres more

. Doesn't sound like you're a resident....definitely not........ I was born and rasied in Riverhead. Although I moved out of Riverhead 3 yrs ago my family is still there and I still maintain my residency. I have also have family on SCPD. The SCPD is changing and I really don't think it is for the better. As i stated before bigger is not always better.

Unless you have 1st hand knowledge how can you say SCPD is not changing for the better? If it's Levy and the commisioner you're talking about just remember... These people at the top come and go...usually with a lot of big ideas at 1st then they fade away and nobody remembers who they were. Basically these guys do not effect the men and women in the street doing the job everyday. They may have a slight effect, but they do not change the outstanding level of service these officers provide. I have had reason to call them on a few occasions once when my 4 month old was having a seizure and they were at my front door within seconds. They have been nothing but professional, helpful and a credit to their profession and I see them frequently in the area. God bless them always!
Yeah well in my Pct we wait 15 minutes AT LEAST for a response. Trust me, East Hampton Village has a 5 minute response time AT MOST. And they have more officers per shift on patrol then the SCPD would in a similar sized commpunity with a similar crime rate,

Face it, we dont need the SCPD.
The pd is fine, its the mgmt you'd have trouble with. They would tear rhpd apart and rebuild it in stevies image.

first of as a current ncpd po and former nypd mos i take offence on your insult to the nypd. second what is your reference to new selden. i live in selden and on my block is a scpd 2nypd and a nysp mos so f*&k u and the pedastal u talk from i hope scpd takes over your job rolls over 78 of your guys and leaves u out

Skelden/Centerican 4 life. Before you go getting your Whiskey Tango panties in a bunch, I think he was making a comparison between the development of CR 58 from the Eway to at least the traffic circle and the state of development of Skelden/Centeroach along Rte. 25. Lighten up Francis and have another box of Kraft macaroni and cheese for me.

[Ghostrider]

. Doesn't sound like you're a resident....definitely not........ I was born and rasied in Riverhead. Although I moved out of Riverhead 3 yrs ago my family is still there and I still maintain my residency. I have also have family on SCPD. The SCPD is changing and I really don't think it is for the better. As i stated before bigger is not always better.

Unless you have 1st hand knowledge how can you say SCPD is not changing for the better? If it's Levy and the commisioner you're talking about just remember... These people at the top come and go...usually with a lot of big ideas at 1st then they fade away and nobody remembers who they were. Basically these guys do not effect the men and women in the street doing the job everyday. They may have a slight effect, but they do not change the outstanding level of service these officers provide. I have had reason to call them on a few occasions once when my 4 month old was having a seizure and they were at my front door within seconds. They have been nothing but professional, helpful and a credit to their profession and I see them frequently in the area. God bless them always!
Yeah well in my Pct we wait 15 minutes AT LEAST for a response. Trust me, East Hampton Village has a 5 minute response time AT MOST. And they have more officers per shift on patrol then the SCPD would in a similar sized commpunity with a similar crime rate,

Face it, we dont need the SCPD.

Face it...we needem...bad! How can u even begin to compare East Hampton to Rivhd. Two totally different jobs and places. East Hampton Village has one or two cars at a time...trust me....and they're loaded with $ to operate a village dept., otherwise they'd just leave it to the town PD. Sheesh-these people crack me up with their info...or should I say MIS info.

. Doesn't sound like you're a resident....definitely not........ I was born and rasied in Riverhead. Although I moved out of Riverhead 3 yrs ago my family is still there and I still maintain my residency. I have also have family on SCPD. The SCPD is changing and I really don't think it is for the better. As i stated before bigger is not always better.

Unless you have 1st hand knowledge how can you say SCPD is not changing for the better? If it's Levy and the commisioner you're talking about just remember... These people at the top come and go...usually with a lot of big ideas at 1st then they fade away and nobody remembers who they were. Basically these guys do not effect the men and women in the street doing the job everyday. They may have a slight effect, but they do not change the outstanding level of service these officers provide. I have had reason to call them on a few occasions once when my 4 month old was having a seizure and they were at my front door within seconds. They have been nothing but professional, helpful and a credit to their profession and I see them frequently in the area. God bless them always!
Yeah well in my Pct we wait 15 minutes AT LEAST for a response. Trust me, East Hampton Village has a 5 minute response time AT MOST. And they have more officers per shift on patrol then the SCPD would in a similar sized commpunity with a similar crime rate,

Face it, we dont need the SCPD.

Face it...we needem...bad! How can u even begin to compare East Hampton to Rivhd. Two totally different jobs and places. East Hampton Village has one or two cars at a time...trust me....and they're loaded with $ to operate a village dept., otherwise they'd just leave it to the town PD. Sheesh-these people crack me up with their info...or should I say MIS info.
Look, merging with SCPD is not a good idea. They will probably assign 3 or 4 officers a shit ..no more then u currentlky have

[EN4CER]

first of as a current ncpd po and former nypd mos i take offence on your insult to the nypd. second what is your reference to new selden. i live in selden and on my block is a scpd 2nypd and a nysp mos so f*&k u and the pedastal u talk from i hope scpd takes over your job rolls over 78 of your guys and leaves u out

I never knocked NYPD in this thread (If you read it correctly) – I only knock posters who reply with arrogance and stupidity, a most efficient package for a witty rebuttal. Unfortunately some of the posters here either actual officers or trollers who are posing as officers from NYPD. I have a close relative that works for NYPD and I have the utmost respect for my fellow brothers in blue. As to comparing Riverhead to Selden, the comment was made regarding vehicle traffic. Many residents in Riverhead still feel this is a rural quaint farm community. Those days have been over for a decade now. When my wife and I would travel to Smithaven Mall we used to compare traffic situations. It was a comparison on traffic congestion – nothing more. I was going to add a derogatory comment about your proper use of grammatically correct sentence structure but I’ll leave that one alone and opt for that fact that you’re new to computers, electronic bulletin board message systems, and the good old intardnet.

[EN4CER]

Face it...we needem...bad! How can u even begin to compare East Hampton to Rivhd. Two totally different jobs and places. East Hampton Village has one or two cars at a time...trust me....and they're loaded with $ to operate a village dept., otherwise they'd just leave it to the town PD. Sheesh-these people crack me up with their info...or should I say MIS info.

Well said. And if I might add there are two police departments in the Township of East Hampton. The East Hampton TOWN Police Department and the East Hampton VILLAGE Police Department. If you add up the staffing of the two departments I believe you will find that they have more cops total than does the town of Riverhead. I worked out there as a seasonal too - it's no picnic out there in the summertime - they earn their money.

[retshtpd]

Actually, there are 3 police departments in the Town of East Hampton, don't forget the Sag Harbor Village PD, they are dispatched by East Hampton Village...

[yomama]

The politicians in Riverhead will never let a merge happen. They would lose any control they have over the department and the higher ups in the dept.
I basically grew up in the town and went to school in Riverhead. The powers that are in charge of the town now probably wouldnt care if the town went back to the 1 car on patrol that had to go to main street to see if the red light was on in the stationhouse meaning that there was a call waiting.
I have seen the town grow from when I was young and the force hasnt grown with it. I work for another PD within the town and everytime I had a reason to call for some backup the guys from Riverhead were there for me just as I would go for them if needed.My dept is also small and my backup is miles and mile away so I appreciated them.
Riverhead officials should do the right thing and either get them more men and bring them up to the strenght they should be or merge them so that everyone will be safe out there.
I dont think this is a more money issue its more of a safety issue and a manpower issue.
Maybe the town should concentrate less on knocking down the buildings in the town and more on taking care of the people who take care of the town.------Thanks Guys & Gals!!!
Just my .02

The politicians in Riverhead will never let a merge happen. They would lose any control they have over the department and the higher ups in the dept.
I basically grew up in the town and went to school in Riverhead. The powers that are in charge of the town now probably wouldnt care if the town went back to the 1 car on patrol that had to go to main street to see if the red light was on in the stationhouse meaning that there was a call waiting.
I have seen the town grow from when I was young and the force hasnt grown with it. I work for another PD within the town and everytime I had a reason to call for some backup the guys from Riverhead were there for me just as I would go for them if needed.My dept is also small and my backup is miles and mile away so I appreciated them.
Riverhead officials should do the right thing and either get them more men and bring them up to the strenght they should be or merge them so that everyone will be safe out there.
I dont think this is a more money issue its more of a safety issue and a manpower issue.
Maybe the town should concentrate less on knocking down the buildings in the town and more on taking care of the people who take care of the town.------Thanks Guys & Gals!!!
Just my .02
Buddy, 77 officers is HUGE compared to the average agency in the US. Yes, by metro areas stats its small but thats because they wont hire.

The politicians in Riverhead will never let a merge happen. They would lose any control they have over the department and the higher ups in the dept.
I basically grew up in the town and went to school in Riverhead. The powers that are in charge of the town now probably wouldnt care if the town went back to the 1 car on patrol that had to go to main street to see if the red light was on in the stationhouse meaning that there was a call waiting.
I have seen the town grow from when I was young and the force hasnt grown with it. I work for another PD within the town and everytime I had a reason to call for some backup the guys from Riverhead were there for me just as I would go for them if needed.My dept is also small and my backup is miles and mile away so I appreciated them.
Riverhead officials should do the right thing and either get them more men and bring them up to the strenght they should be or merge them so that everyone will be safe out there.
I dont think this is a more money issue its more of a safety issue and a manpower issue.
Maybe the town should concentrate less on knocking down the buildings in the town and more on taking care of the people who take care of the town.------Thanks Guys & Gals!!!
Just my .02
Buddy, 77 officers is HUGE compared to the average agency in the US. Yes, by metro areas stats its small but thats because they wont hire.
Stop comparing metro and the burbs, or in this case, rural/farmlands. 1 officer per 5000 citizens might seem ok per city block, but for a 20 square mile radius and the nearest backup can be 5 minutes away, different world

The politicians in Riverhead will never let a merge happen. They would lose any control they have over the department and the higher ups in the dept.
I basically grew up in the town and went to school in Riverhead. The powers that are in charge of the town now probably wouldnt care if the town went back to the 1 car on patrol that had to go to main street to see if the red light was on in the stationhouse meaning that there was a call waiting.
I have seen the town grow from when I was young and the force hasnt grown with it. I work for another PD within the town and everytime I had a reason to call for some backup the guys from Riverhead were there for me just as I would go for them if needed.My dept is also small and my backup is miles and mile away so I appreciated them.
Riverhead officials should do the right thing and either get them more men and bring them up to the strenght they should be or merge them so that everyone will be safe out there.
I dont think this is a more money issue its more of a safety issue and a manpower issue.
Maybe the town should concentrate less on knocking down the buildings in the town and more on taking care of the people who take care of the town.------Thanks Guys & Gals!!!
Just my .02
Buddy, 77 officers is HUGE compared to the average agency in the US. Yes, by metro areas stats its small but thats because they wont hire.
Stop comparing metro and the burbs, or in this case, rural/farmlands. 1 officer per 5000 citizens might seem ok per city block, but for a 20 square mile radius and the nearest backup can be 5 minutes away, different world
apples and oranges, cant compare

Yea suck it up and answer your jobs...what would you do if you have a solo foot post in Browsville or East New York?

What a jerk. You are probably a perp.

[pre-glock]

Yea suck it up and answer your jobs...what would you do if you have a solo foot post in Browsville or East New York?Re: complainers
Every time I read a drama queen from the city moan and cry how tough they got it it harkens me back to the mid 90s crack explosion.
I worked a high crime low income area. No one living there had a car, well a legit car, that could make it out of the community. So we were really hammering the incoming cars, we'd get them from the west, CI, etc, and the city runners. One day I got this car from the city with a decent weight of crack and stuff, and a gun.
We had a mini roll around and he was arrested. Turns out his passenger had a nypd felony warrant. He never left the car, I told him not to move and he listened.
When the city cops came out for him, we talked a while. They told me all the stories of these two bad asses and how any officer doing a stop on them would call for back up and when the responding units heard who they were at least 20 officers would start that way. It made me chuckle since I arrested the two of them by myself, the most I would have gotten is 2 on the back and they were about 5 minutes late. I probably didnt even have 20 coworkers on patrol that day.
The passenger was scared to death to come out of the car. " You good ole boys be crazy man I know you'd shoot my ass. "
It makes me laugh, where do you city cops think our drug problem come from? Do you think the perps in the city are scared to leave there? Of course you have more crime 10 million people crammed into the 5 boroughs are going to be more savage than 3 million in a area 5x larger. Likewise when you need backup you have a partner, and another guy a minute out. Out here we just do it, if someones coming fine, if not, I'm still going home.

Yea suck it up and answer your jobs...what would you do if you have a solo foot post in Browsville or East New York?Re: complainers
Every time I read a drama queen from the city moan and cry how tough they got it it harkens me back to the mid 90s crack explosion.
I worked a high crime low income area. No one living there had a car, well a legit car, that could make it out of the community. So we were really hammering the incoming cars, we'd get them from the west, CI, etc, and the city runners. One day I got this car from the city with a decent weight of crack and stuff, and a gun.
We had a mini roll around and he was arrested. Turns out his passenger had a nypd felony warrant. He never left the car, I told him not to move and he listened.
When the city cops came out for him, we talked a while. They told me all the stories of these two bad asses and how any officer doing a stop on them would call for back up and when the responding units heard who they were at least 20 officers would start that way. It made me chuckle since I arrested the two of them by myself, the most I would have gotten is 2 on the back and they were about 5 minutes late. I probably didnt even have 20 coworkers on patrol that day.
The passenger was scared to death to come out of the car. " You good ole boys be crazy man I know you'd shoot my ass. "
It makes me laugh, where do you city cops think our drug problem come from? Do you think the perps in the city are scared to leave there? Of course you have more crime 10 million people crammed into the 5 boroughs are going to be more savage than 3 million in a area 5x larger. Likewise when you need backup you have a partner, and another guy a minute out. Out here we just do it, if someones coming fine, if not, I'm still going home.

Amen brother first you have another cop w/ you that deters a lot of the roll around factor. Second you call a 10-13/85 forth with and you are standing 15-20 strong in less than 5 minutes. Apples& Oranges between the burbs and the big job. Each has it's plusses and minuses in the danger factor.

[Guest 788]

Sorry Boys and Girls, The SCPD does not want Riverhead!!!!!!!!!!
Never have and never will. The test Suffolk has is an OPEN COMPETITIVE CIVIL SERVICE EXAM, for anyone in the listed counties( including NYC ) Riverhead's as all the small eastern town and village jobs are by who you know. If you think the riverhead PD can pass the Entry exam then why did they end up on Rivervrhead PD. There is a reason for OPEN COMPEITIVE EXAMS, and it is not so some Pol's kid can be a Cop. So if they do merge, let everyone be on the same level. Does anyone think the cops can make the same score, how about the Bosse's scores on promotion tests. Are they on Par with the County? I'll just say NO,
NOT EVEN CLOSE. So what do we do with all the Bosses make them COPS. then what do we do with all the Cops?

Sorry Boys and Girls, The SCPD does not want Riverhead!!!!!!!!!!
Never have and never will. The test Suffolk has is an OPEN COMPETITIVE CIVIL SERVICE EXAM, for anyone in the listed counties( including NYC ) Riverhead's as all the small eastern town and village jobs are by who you know. If you think the riverhead PD can pass the Entry exam then why did they end up on Rivervrhead PD. There is a reason for OPEN COMPEITIVE EXAMS, and it is not so some Pol's kid can be a Cop. So if they do merge, let everyone be on the same level. Does anyone think the cops can make the same score, how about the Bosse's scores on promotion tests. Are they on Par with the County? I'll just say NO,
NOT EVEN CLOSE. So what do we do with all the Bosses make them COPS. then what do we do with all the Cops?
i thought Riverhead hired off the scpd list, as well as all Town and village depts in Suffolk?

Sorry Boys and Girls, The SCPD does not want Riverhead!!!!!!!!!!
Never have and never will. The test Suffolk has is an OPEN COMPETITIVE CIVIL SERVICE EXAM, for anyone in the listed counties( including NYC ) Riverhead's as all the small eastern town and village jobs are by who you know. If you think the riverhead PD can pass the Entry exam then why did they end up on Rivervrhead PD. There is a reason for OPEN COMPEITIVE EXAMS, and it is not so some Pol's kid can be a Cop. So if they do merge, let everyone be on the same level. Does anyone think the cops can make the same score, how about the Bosse's scores on promotion tests. Are they on Par with the County? I'll just say NO,
NOT EVEN CLOSE. So what do we do with all the Bosses make them COPS. then what do we do with all the Cops?

Check your facts and history. Someone quoted that as per the county charter the towns/villages that didn't merge in 60 had the option at a later date if they so chose. I'm asking you to think for a moment. When the NYS Parkway Police were disbanded in the 80s their personnel were absorbed by the NYSP and the lesser dweebs went to NYS Park Police. When Transit, Housing and NYPD merged the individual members ranks, seniority etc. carried over to NYPD. There is already a mechanism in place for such mergers. As it would happen for Riverhead into SCPD.

Sorry Boys and Girls, The SCPD does not want Riverhead!!!!!!!!!!
Never have and never will. The test Suffolk has is an OPEN COMPETITIVE CIVIL SERVICE EXAM, for anyone in the listed counties( including NYC ) Riverhead's as all the small eastern town and village jobs are by who you know. If you think the riverhead PD can pass the Entry exam then why did they end up on Rivervrhead PD. There is a reason for OPEN COMPEITIVE EXAMS, and it is not so some Pol's kid can be a Cop. So if they do merge, let everyone be on the same level. Does anyone think the cops can make the same score, how about the Bosse's scores on promotion tests. Are they on Par with the County? I'll just say NO,
NOT EVEN CLOSE. So what do we do with all the Bosses make them COPS. then what do we do with all the Cops?

Check your facts and history. Someone quoted that as per the county charter the towns/villages that didn't merge in 60 had the option at a later date if they so chose. I'm asking you to think for a moment. When the NYS Parkway Police were disbanded in the 80s their personnel were absorbed by the NYSP and the lesser dweebs went to NYS Park Police. When Transit, Housing and NYPD merged the individual members ranks, seniority etc. carried over to NYPD. There is already a mechanism in place for such mergers. As it would happen for Riverhead into SCPD.

[Well now....]

Sorry Boys and Girls, The SCPD does not want Riverhead!!!!!!!!!!
Never have and never will. The test Suffolk has is an OPEN COMPETITIVE CIVIL SERVICE EXAM, for anyone in the listed counties( including NYC ) Riverhead's as all the small eastern town and village jobs are by who you know. If you think the riverhead PD can pass the Entry exam then why did they end up on Rivervrhead PD. There is a reason for OPEN COMPEITIVE EXAMS, and it is not so some Pol's kid can be a Cop. So if they do merge, let everyone be on the same level. Does anyone think the cops can make the same score, how about the Bosse's scores on promotion tests. Are they on Par with the County? I'll just say NO,
NOT EVEN CLOSE. So what do we do with all the Bosses make them COPS. then what do we do with all the Cops?

A good number of outside agency cops on Long Island couldn't get on the county jobs due to pending Justice Department lawsuits that held up hiring. Villages and townships were not respondents/defendants to the lawsuits and had been given the go ahead to hire. So many good candidates ( top of the list positions) accepted the position at a smaller job because it was a sure thing. There are also situations where the county jobs are not hiring, but smaller agencies are. If someone offers you a six figure job in a smaller agency, and you take it to provide for your family, are you then considered a ranch hand? Lots of competent people on those jobs, just as with the county agencies. There are sometime municipalities that have a residency list and that may give an edge to a local. But we've seen how nepotism plays in the larger jobs as well, and how the "cream" tends to rise to the top. No political influence in the county, 788? Outside agency promotional exams also do not include the additional R&P questions, which give county test takers a higher score. This also doesn't take into account the exceptional tutoring that has been afforded some in the recent past.......so don't sweat it out that some lesser fellow may be riding in an adjoining sector somewhere down the road. Next time you take a meal, pass on the cheeseburger and order a slice of humble pie.

[Guest???????????]

It does seem that competition is lessened when you add a residency requirement and or additional points for residency. For example the Town and Village Promotional exam for SGT the highest score was 94. Look for yourself on the Civil Service Web site. A 94 maybe promoted a the county level, but it would be near the bottom. In Suffolk one needs to aim for a perfect score to be promoted. Is it because of smarter cops or the need to work harder in the County to be promoted. I don't know. Just an observation, I'm not opposed to a takeover. If anyone thinks it will be a merge, your wrong.
Riverhead would be better off staying by themselves. They will not be happy with SCPD policy. Another Zone for the Seventh PCT. That would be the extent of it. If they think the cops would stay there, think again. It's a big County, West Babylon and Huntington are not out of the question. HQ would not want anyone too comfy in thier cars. Long drive to fight the Crack war in North Amity, or the Gangs in CI. That stuff is for the New Kids not for us old folks.

[Whatyoupayfor]

Good points brought up but those involved here must remember

1. Riverhead Town residents ALREADY pay for SCPD services, thus, local taxes would actually go down. If you don't believe me just follow the current news aricles on the Riverhead PD dispatchers. The local residents pay for he SCPD service but have for 50yrs staffed their own! They could easily save over 1-2 million dollars a year in pay benny's and OT by getting rid of them but the Town Board does not have the balls to do it!

2. Southampton DOES NOT and IS NOT legally permitted to patrol anywhere but Southampton Town as per NY State law. A police officer cannot patrol an area that does not fall within his GAO or geographic area of employment. Don't believe me, check the law book or ask any current Plice Officer recruit. It's the first thing they teach you in the academy after marching!

3. The troopers have two cars to patrol from Montauk to Orient Point. I don't think that will help the situation. Any time the troopers do try to patrol, all they do is get all the locals aggrevated and then leave the hornets next for the RHPD.

4. Sherrifs are not Police Officers, they are Peace Officers. They should not be performing law enforcement patroll activities. Levy may have saved a few dollars by handing highway over to the, but mark my words, SC will pay in the end when the entire Sherrif division files for Police Powers and thus a Full Police retirement benny.

The bottom line is you ge what you pay for. On any given night there are 5 patrol cars in Riverhead. Put up one majort car accident, one female EDP run or a domestic incident and bam 2 -3 of the patrol cars are down. That means there are 2 maybe 3 cars patrolling the entire town. Riverhead has skated for too long. Sooner NOT later the s is going to hit the fan.

If yo want my advice, go commit a crime in riverhead, you will never get caught!

[RETARD788]

You are a retard. All the PD's in suffolk conty take the same test.

As a matter of fact, I was in the famous CADET MINORITY CLASS of 1998.

You know what, the only people who all had college degrees where the ones who were NOT the token SCPD CADETS!

Check your facts before you shoot off your mouth!

[UnregisYER5Y4]

Whenever called for backup, the Deputies and Troopers have responded to help. Say what you will about the brassholes on top, but the men in the street do the right thing.

The Riverhead Dispatchers didn't all get offered spots at County 911 for the takeover, what makes you think all the PO's will go right over?

I'm not trying to break balls, it's just a question.

[Unregistdererer]

Good points brought up but those involved here must remember

1. Riverhead Town residents ALREADY pay for SCPD services, thus, local taxes would actually go down. If you don't believe me just follow the current news aricles on the Riverhead PD dispatchers. The local residents pay for he SCPD service but have for 50yrs staffed their own! They could easily save over 1-2 million dollars a year in pay benny's and OT by getting rid of them but the Town Board does not have the balls to do it!

2. Southampton DOES NOT and IS NOT legally permitted to patrol anywhere but Southampton Town as per NY State law. A police officer cannot patrol an area that does not fall within his GAO or geographic area of employment. Don't believe me, check the law book or ask any current Plice Officer recruit. It's the first thing they teach you in the academy after marching!

3. The troopers have two cars to patrol from Montauk to Orient Point. I don't think that will help the situation. Any time the troopers do try to patrol, all they do is get all the locals aggrevated and then leave the hornets next for the RHPD.

4. Sherrifs are not Police Officers, they are Peace Officers. They should not be performing law enforcement patroll activities. Levy may have saved a few dollars by handing highway over to the, but mark my words, SC will pay in the end when the entire Sherrif division files for Police Powers and thus a Full Police retirement benny.

The bottom line is you ge what you pay for. On any given night there are 5 patrol cars in Riverhead. Put up one majort car accident, one female EDP run or a domestic incident and bam 2 -3 of the patrol cars are down. That means there are 2 maybe 3 cars patrolling the entire town. Riverhead has skated for too long. Sooner NOT later the s is going to hit the fan.

If yo want my advice, go commit a crime in riverhead, you will never get caught!

Deputies have full police powers with a 20 year police retirement. What are you babbling about troll?

[deputydaawgs]

Deputies have full police powers with a 20 year police retirement. What are you babbling about troll?

LOL...no way. Everyone is laughing at you. The jokes of Suffolk County.

[Unregistered12a]

Good points brought up but those involved here must remember

1. Riverhead Town residents ALREADY pay for SCPD services, thus, local taxes would actually go down. If you don't believe me just follow the current news aricles on the Riverhead PD dispatchers. The local residents pay for he SCPD service but have for 50yrs staffed their own! They could easily save over 1-2 million dollars a year in pay benny's and OT by getting rid of them but the Town Board does not have the balls to do it!

2. Southampton DOES NOT and IS NOT legally permitted to patrol anywhere but Southampton Town as per NY State law. A police officer cannot patrol an area that does not fall within his GAO or geographic area of employment. Don't believe me, check the law book or ask any current Plice Officer recruit. It's the first thing they teach you in the academy after marching!

3. The troopers have two cars to patrol from Montauk to Orient Point. I don't think that will help the situation. Any time the troopers do try to patrol, all they do is get all the locals aggrevated and then leave the hornets next for the RHPD.

4. Sherrifs are not Police Officers, they are Peace Officers. They should not be performing law enforcement patroll activities. Levy may have saved a few dollars by handing highway over to the, but mark my words, SC will pay in the end when the entire Sherrif division files for Police Powers and thus a Full Police retirement benny.

The bottom line is you ge what you pay for. On any given night there are 5 patrol cars in Riverhead. Put up one majort car accident, one female EDP run or a domestic incident and bam 2 -3 of the patrol cars are down. That means there are 2 maybe 3 cars patrolling the entire town. Riverhead has skated for too long. Sooner NOT later the s is going to hit the fan.

If yo want my advice, go commit a crime in riverhead, you will never get caught!

It says police officer on the back of their id cards stupid

[really!]

It says police officer on the back of their id cards stupid

they are police officers,it says it on their id cards,right under "scab".

[Unregistered12a]

they are police officers,it says it on their id cards,right under "scab".

Great comeback...BRAVO!

[Unregigfhyysh]

but ya wont say it to a deputies face, will ya. id rather be a scab than a big puss!

[Unregislolol]

LOL...no way. Everyone is laughing at you. The jokes of Suffolk County.

Ah, the envy of someone who wants to be in law enforcement - but is not! LOL!!!

[Unregistered44444]

I'd take a deputy dawg assisting me on a 10 or an 85 any day. I wouldn't be able to tolerate Riverheads arrogance if the idiot on this site is any reflection of how their cops are. I trained with deps in the academy. Never had a problem with any of them...and anything going on now is all political bullshit! Get your head out of your a$$.

[Unregisgffggffg]

i agree, i trained with all agencies in the academy (scpd, scso, rpd, shpd, suny, sipd, scpp...) all good people who i consider great friends.

[Unregisteredq]

Good points brought up but those involved here must remember

1. Riverhead Town residents ALREADY pay for SCPD services, thus, local taxes would actually go down. If you don't believe me just follow the current news aricles on the Riverhead PD dispatchers. it!



4get caught!
The only reason its feasible and it would save money is the cuts in manpower to the dispatcher position

[Unregistered433435]

Check your facts and history. Someone quoted that as per the county charter the towns/villages that didn't merge in 60 had the option at a later date if they so chose. I'm asking you to think for a moment. When the NYS Parkway Police were disbanded in the 80s their personnel were absorbed by the NYSP and the lesser dweebs went to NYS Park Police. When Transit, Housing and NYPD merged the individual members ranks, seniority etc. carried over to NYPD. There is already a mechanism in place for such mergers. As it would happen for Riverhead into SCPD.

Nice genius. Let's fight with every law enforcement agency on Long Island. Let's fight with Riverhead now, and the parks police. My brother SCPDs, you are a disgrage for the way you all act on this board

[iwill]

but ya wont say it to a deputies face, will ya. id rather be a scab than a big puss!

i will say it to your face the next time u pull me over. but judging by your stats, the odds of that happening are slim. u clowns are a joke, wannabes. call the wambulance, a deps feelings were hurt.

[Unfightregistered]

Nice genius. Let's fight with every law enforcement agency on Long Island. Let's fight with Riverhead now, and the parks police. My brother SCPDs, you are a disgrage for the way you all act on this board

Whos fighting? Its a simple discussion of if scpd riverhead merged, chill out

[Sliverhead]

A discuss we mught add that was started in 2005! Riverhead PD are little townies! Half of the clowns DONT even live in the town but use Mommy and Daddys address......Lets see how your felllow tax payers like that when it comes out. GET A JOB LAZY!

[speak english fool]

A discuss we mught add that was started in 2005! ! !

What are you saying????????

[Fool Reallly]

What are you saying????????

Fa fa fa fa FOOL.....That would be "Learn to TYPE correctly" JACKASS!!!!! Another fat slob! bahhh ha ha ha ...Uhh Buuuuh Bye!

[u r a winna]

Fa fa fa fa FOOL.....That would be "Learn to TYPE correctly" JACKASS!!!!! Another fat slob! bahhh ha ha ha ...Uhh Buuuuh Bye!

wow great comeback, really. Really covers up for your gibberish.

[Unregisfhuusy]

i will say it to your face the next time u pull me over. but judging by your stats, the odds of that happening are slim. u clowns are a joke, wannabes. call the wambulance, a deps feelings were hurt.

im sure you will. and im sure youre a cop too!

[OK TROLL]

LOL...no way. Everyone is laughing at you. The jokes of Suffolk County.

Ok Troll, I'm a joke then. But I'm a joke laughing at you all the way to my bank. While Deps make a lesser base pay, the average Dep earns 124K with their overtime dollars. If that makes the average Dep a joke in this current challenging fiscal climate then I guess you are right. But honestly, I think the joke just might be on YOU!

[Unregisteredqwerr]

Ok Troll, I'm a joke then. But I'm a joke laughing at you all the way to my bank. While Deps make a lesser base pay, the average Dep earns 124K with their overtime dollars. If that makes the average Dep a joke in this current challenging fiscal climate then I guess you are right. But honestly, I think the joke just might be on YOU!

Are you really bragging about working 1000 hours extra to match scpd base pay?

[Unregistered10-51]

One thing about Riverhead. Either it is quiet or busy. There is no in between. If you listen to their band you'll hear what I mean. You get two stabbings at two different IL's within 15 minutes of each other that are unrelated. Not to mention you get the skells from the Southampton side of the circle crossing over to hide from the Flanders for something they did there.

The Riverhead PO's work hard don't knock 'em. And they'll back you up regardless of what agency you work for if they know you need it. They even assist the Flanders car or the Park police at Indian Point if and when needed. And that is what it is about. The bad guys stick together maybe the good guys need to learn how the same. Problem is sometimes that some guys are coming on the job because of the paycheck, and not the calling/vocation.

[Unregisterednmk]

Unite~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

[unlocal yokel]

As a taxpayer, i would gladly pay for 100+ cops. i have seen straight up violent crimes too many times for 'out of towners' to minimize. i have been to NYC all of my life and those who minimize crime here have no understanding and are making foolish assumptions.

As a man who can read a map, i think it is hilarious that people from Brooklyn and Queens that use the phrase "out on the island". Do they not know that they live on Long Island as well! LOL did they cross a bridge to get here.... ; )

As a logical person who can comprehend math, i think the numbers say it all, we need at least 100 cops. As far as Suffolk takeover, i'm not sure how i feel....the problem is the misunderstanding that those who live out west have that things are so perfect out East. There is more crime in Riverhead than any town West excluding a few that can be counted on one hand. That is including murder statistics going back into the late 80's and 90's. Allot of shots fired (and landed) never get any press more than the news review (local paper).

Confused as to why we can't chip in for a few more officers that know the special needs of the area and the major amount of NYC visitors including those passing through on there way to the hamptons. Also another factor is Illegal workers come HERE more than out west because they are closer to the Hamptons, where the real money and work is. and if you doubt this fact ask yourself why Time magazine has a spread and featured the east end of Long Island in it's cover story

all this should amount to proof that a few more officers are needed

[UnregisteredHG]

The reluctance of mergers is the amount of brass some villages have. The county doesn't want to absorb sergeants, detective supervisors, Lt's, captains, etc., which seems to have a higher ratio than SCPD.

I respect our friends out east, but the merger will never happen. Good luck.

[huhhhhhhhhhh]

4. Sherrifs are not Police Officers, they are Peace Officers. They should not be performing law enforcement patroll activities. Levy may have saved a few dollars by handing highway over to the, but mark my words, SC will pay in the end when the entire Sherrif division files for Police Powers and thus a Full Police retirement benny.

check CPL

Deputy Sheriffs ARE Police Officers -

[UnregisteredKOQ]

8 to 12 sectors for Riverhead???? Come on! My pct in Harlem only has 3-4 sectors on a given day...if you're lucky...and the crime is 100 times worse! Get real!

BIG BLUE REARS ITS UGLY HEAD !!!! ALL HAIL THE MIGHTY ALL KNOWING, ALL SEEING CITY COP!!!!! Bored to death with that schtick...

[UnregisteredCashingIn]

Suffolk is a 1,400 square mile county. That's more area than a city cop could imagine. With the same population of Queens, we have 5,500 less cops than in that borough alone.

Then again you got hired off a free test. Your recruits look like the lines at immigration. You have over 100 cops arrested every year. We go decades with none. That explains all.

[SoWhat?]

Suffolk is a 1,400 square mile county.

So what, you patrol the 5 WESTERN towns fella.

[Be careful...]

From what I hear all involved think it's a good idea. According to the County charter, the County CANNOT refuse riverhead if they request to be absorbed. Chances are, it will have to go to a vote of the people. If riverhead goes, so does Southold and shelter island, and possibly sag. It can be done. And riverhead needs it. Bad. And the PO's get the 1/60th bill...Talk it up to the residents. That's your best chance.

That may be so (or not) but THE JURY IS Still OUT On whether or not the County would be required to take on those Riverhead Officers into SCPD...
Be careful what you ask for...

[Unregistered455687923f]

Ingnorance is bliss :roll: Now I would not comment on a police situation in Harlem because I don't work there so get REAL?- Oh thats right - I forget you probably work for the "REAL Job." Well how's the REAL pay by the way?

some City cop that is jealous! You guys dont have a clue about the police jobs out here.
I worked in the busiest bklyn pct for years and know exactly how crazy it is out there. Now Im in suffolk where my sector is larger than the pct i used to work in. Its not mayberry out here anymore! its not harlem or brownsville or east flatbush either, but the crime has made its way out here. And with Levy and Dormer dismantling our dept over the past few years it has become a breeding ground for gangs and crime.
And when the shit hits the fan i dont have every sector car, a partner, every undercover working within the pct, and the other pct on my radio band like the city has, coming to my assistance.

I would never put down NYPD and the amazing and dangerous job they do every day. But when you pass the test, and then get lucky enough to get selected to come out here, than you have a right to comment on our job and who you feel should be patrolling what! And I gaurantee your outlook would change when you really saw what this job really is.

[Unregistered2233344]

check CPL

Deputy Sheriffs ARE Police Officers -

Give it a rest already! Nobody cares.
Go to the city, you can tow cars with the other Sheriffs!

[UnregisteredCashingIn]

So what, you patrol the 5 WESTERN towns fella.

Like the city patrols the airports, bridges, tunnels, Path/ Amtrack lines, Penn Station, or the bus terminal. With 2 men to a car, your numbers are double what we got.

You never hear a county cop saying anything negative until a jealous piss-ant like yourself chimes in. This is while we over-extend ourselves to Bronx crap like yourself yearly. I've already handled 4 CCRBs from disgruntals with the city "yab". The funny thing, they were all stupid. Even the sgt and Lt were bottom of the list promotes. Everyone who passed those tests with a mere 70 got made. On LI you would have to write a 100 for the gold, and the green.

Have a nice commute.

[Unregistered92-112]

"On LI you would have to write a 100 for the gold, and the green.

Have a nice commute."[/QUOTE]


And even then you won't be sitting number 1 and might not get made...

[Unregisteredddd]

It's a great idea if you are a suffolk cop and want to work east.If you live in riverhead and would like your taxes to skyrocket, have westenders who dont care about your town and want the county exec in charge of your police dept it is a great idea.

WORK? Suffolk cops don't work...

[Unregisteredfgdfgdf]

Give it a rest already! Nobody cares.
Go to the city, you can tow cars with the other Sheriffs!

Sorry, I'm too busy patrolling the LIE and Sunrise. hahhahahahahahaaha

[Unregisteredchuckle]

Sorry, I'm too busy patrolling the LIE and Sunrise. hahhahahahahahaaha

By patrolling do you mean driving up and down the road during commute times then disappearing the other 20 hours of the day and sporting a 63% drop in tickets issued while boasting about making 12 measley dwi arrests over a 5 day span?

[and u@ 1130 work?]

WORK? Suffolk cops don't work...

880k calls, 26k arrests,for a patrol force of 1k beg to differ with you
now get a job

[dead end boy]

WORK? Suffolk cops don't work...

Really? But who was posting here at 1130 am on a Monday morning?(hint you)
So either you dont work or you dont DO your work when you are AT work

[Unregisteredfghjk]

maybe he's working 3 x 11?

[Unregisteredfghjk]

maybe he's working 3 x 11?

maybe he has a zero job that allows him to goof off all day and vent against those he is jealous of?

[Unregisteredahaha]

maybe he's working 3 x 11?

Only kfc has those hours, not mc ds or taco bell, and kfc is hard to get.

[Unregisteredahaha]

maybe he's working 3 x 11?

Maybe he is the overnight stock boy at Home depot

[Unregisteredfghjk]

maybe he's working 3 x 11?

maybe he works? would have been funnier if thats what you are going for

[InOneWord]

By patrolling do you mean driving up and down the road during commute times then disappearing the other 20 hours of the day and sporting a 63% drop in tickets issued while boasting about making 12 measley dwi arrests over a 5 day span?

Yes.

[Unregisteredghshsf]

maybe he's working 3 x 11?

maybe he's a trolling ex-hwy guy waiting to get his motorcycle back

[Unregisteredghshsf]

maybe he's a trolling ex-hwy guy waiting to get his motorcycle back

maybe he has nothing better to do with his life?