New Suffolk County FRES dispatch protocol?

Is there any truth to the rumor that Suffolk County FRES- now FCC ID WQCI243- is switching to a "Plain Language" dispatch system and leaving signals behind?

First they lose their FCC ID, then they stop announcing the fire dept's FCC ID upon activation, now this?

[STARTWATER2]

as per our federal government and with the new nims (national incident management system) system we all will in time, be alll on the same page.......

as per our federal government and with the new nims (national incident management system) system we all will in time, be alll on the same page.......seeing that is beleiving

now we r like a bunch of drunk clowns too.

[rescue pants]

As of sept. 15th they're also apparently switching to the Fire EMD protocol cards. No more 13's or 14's...Now the scumbag members DEFINITELY won't get out of bed because theyll know its an auto alarm based on the coding.

my problem with fres is that they still follow through with activating an entire FD for an auto alarm if the alarm company calls dispatch after the alarm is tripped to state that it's due to work going on at the facility/residence when at the most only the Chief should be activated if any activation is necessary at all. I would tend to believe that ADT calling in that its reps are on site testing/repairing the system that a responce is not warranted.

[FD Dispatcher]

It’s 3am and ADT gets an automatic fire alarm for the ABC business on Main Street USA. ADT’s procedure is to call the building first to verify the alarm (which is against this towns fire code). When ADT calls Mr. Smith answers the phone and states don’t send the fire department it was a false alarm I was testing the system and forgot to notify you. ADT calls the local FD and gives them the information on the automatic alarm and also advised the FD someone was on the premises and stated the fire department was not needed that it was a false alarm.

The local fire house attendant in his infinite wisdom decided on his own that since it was 3am and ADT told him it was a false alarm and Mr Smith didn’t want the Fire Department … well he wasn’t going to wake up the boys for a false alarm and did nothing with it.

Needless to say Mr Smith .. well he was a disgruntled employee who had access to his work place 24/7. He got pissed off at his boss because his boss would not give him a raise so Mr Smith burnt the building down. As for the fire a passing motorist called 911 an hour after the initial automatic alarm was received to report heavy black smoke coming from ABC business on Main Street. So the next time you blow off that automatic alarm because you trust what ADT told you … think twice !! Just ask Dispatcher X who’s now unemployed.

As for FRES, I routinely hear them activating calls for a chief’s investigation of an automatic alarm …. When I asked why, I was told they are not allowed to dismiss an automatic alarm and they have to pass the information off to the local fire department / chief. If the department / chief doesn’t want to check out the alarm and takes the word of the alarm company, well then that’s their problem and removes the FRES dispatcher from any liability for not relaying the alarm.

[lighten up dudes]

Is it me or do the dispatchers sound really confused activating alarms, they mumble, barely get the address oand signal out. I like the Dept ID's it gave you a heads up while scanning..now by the time you realize what dept it is, they have mumbled the call and address and you missed it.
They siund like thyre across the room talkin in the microphnes and not for nothing lghten p with the attitudes dispatchers. Some have been down right nasty.
Will departments (like Coram) be fined fr not comlying?

Fined ?
By WHO ?
And not complying with WHAT ?

Is it me or do the dispatchers sound really confused activating alarms, they mumble, barely get the address oand signal out. I like the Dept ID's it gave you a heads up while scanning..now by the time you realize what dept it is, they have mumbled the call and address and you missed it.
They siund like thyre across the room talkin in the microphnes and not for nothing lghten p with the attitudes dispatchers. Some have been down right nasty.
Will departments (like Coram) be fined fr not comlying?

Departments wont receive a fine per se, however in the event of something like the wild fires, any department that hasn't moved over to the NIMS will not receive grant or federal stipends.

[radioear]

Fined ?
By WHO ?
And not complying with WHAT ?
They are still signing on with 12s, 13, 16. etc

individual depts dispatching on low band 46.46 with their own paid dispatchers might still give signals because their dept SOPs havent changed yet but county no longer gives signals when it originates from FRES

"They are still signing on with 12s, 13, 16. etc"

Ok so?

Still didnt answer the question.
WHO?? Who is going to fine ANY FD for still using 12,13,14's etc ?

you didn't read the earlier posts idiot. no one gets fined, but, the FD refusing to follow nimms would not be eligible for grants and other fed assistance. Its a blackmail deal. Backdoor enforcement. No fines. Get it.

[vanilla sky]

Listen Hosebaggers,


You only have to worry about this maybe 10-15% of the time as 85-90% of your "fire department" activity is EMS anyway.....


Figure it out>>>>> you guys are worried about grants, That's a laugh! grants for what?


Your trucks that are paperweight parade pieces? matches for your firebug members?

And nimms will count for ems too oh brilliant person.And not only are our engine, ladders and trucks paperweights but out boats, scuba gear etc. Maybe you should volunteer a bit to get some practice.

Listen Hosebaggers,


You only have to worry about this maybe 10-15% of the time as 85-90% of your "fire department" activity is EMS anyway.....


Figure it out>>>>> you guys are worried about grants, That's a laugh! grants for what?


Your trucks that are paperweight parade pieces? matches for your firebug members?


SCREW ems, red headed step children of the FIRE service.
Stop riding on OUR coat tails and get your OWN recognition.

I wish I knew why ems was ever attached to the FIRE service in the first place.

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yikes is right

I THINK THAT DISPATCHER 23 IS AN ASSHOLE

fres is just an bunch of underpaid disgruntled button pushers who think they are gods gift to the fire and ems system of suffolk because they work in a cave in yaphank.....................dispatcher 23 is an a**hole by the way!!!!!!

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It’s 3am and ADT gets an automatic fire alarm for the ABC business on Main Street USA. ADT’s procedure is to call the building first to verify the alarm (which is against this towns fire code). When ADT calls Mr. Smith answers the phone and states don’t send the fire department it was a false alarm I was testing the system and forgot to notify you. ADT calls the local FD and gives them the information on the automatic alarm and also advised the FD someone was on the premises and stated the fire department was not needed that it was a false alarm.

The local fire house attendant in his infinite wisdom decided on his own that since it was 3am and ADT told him it was a false alarm and Mr Smith didn’t want the Fire Department … well he wasn’t going to wake up the boys for a false alarm and did nothing with it.

Needless to say Mr Smith .. well he was a disgruntled employee who had access to his work place 24/7. He got pissed off at his boss because his boss would not give him a raise so Mr Smith burnt the building down. As for the fire a passing motorist called 911 an hour after the initial automatic alarm was received to report heavy black smoke coming from ABC business on Main Street. So the next time you blow off that automatic alarm because you trust what ADT told you … think twice !! Just ask Dispatcher X who’s now unemployed.

As for FRES, I routinely hear them activating calls for a chief’s investigation of an automatic alarm …. When I asked why, I was told they are not allowed to dismiss an automatic alarm and they have to pass the information off to the local fire department / chief. If the department / chief doesn’t want to check out the alarm and takes the word of the alarm company, well then that’s their problem and removes the FRES dispatcher from any liability for not relaying the alarm.

I'd like to see how's that's possible when a fire department has their own protocol when activating alarms and for cancelations. Also, you have to have a password to cancel ADT YOU IDIOT! You must be a FRES dispatcher.

99% of automatic alarms are complete B.S. as for the torch lighting the building he is not going to answer the phone while the fire is burning, and give arson squad a way of indentifing him. torch is going to be down the road before the alarm co. calls.

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4Thou shalt not make unto thee any graven image, or any likeness of any thing that is in heaven above, or that is in the earth beneath, or that is in the water under the earth. 5Thou shalt not bow down thyself to them, nor serve them: for I the LORD thy God am a jealous God, visiting the iniquity of the fathers upon the children unto the third and fourth generation of them that hate me; 6And shewing mercy unto thousands of them that love me, and keep my commandments.
7Thou shalt not take the name of the LORD thy God in vain; for the LORD will not hold him guiltless that taketh his name in vain.
8Remember the sabbath day, to keep it holy. 9Six days shalt thou labour, and do all thy work: 10But the seventh day is the sabbath of the LORD thy God: in it thou shalt not do any work, thou, nor thy son, nor thy daughter, thy manservant, nor thy maidservant, nor thy cattle, nor thy stranger that is within thy gates: 11For in six days the LORD made heaven and earth, the sea, and all that in them is, and rested the seventh day: wherefore the LORD blessed the sabbath day, and hallowed it.
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