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Tom Suozzi Just Doesn't C
05-15-2004, 05:05 PM
Yesterday in newsday two articles appeared in the paper one was about Tom Suozzi off to surrounding states showboating his "I can Fix anything" scam. and the other was an article on the City of Glen Coves bond rating. Which has been lowered to just above "JUNK". This seems to be no problem for the City Council, who's member went unidentified as stating, that "Glen Cove is still the jewel in the crown of the North Shore". I would like to personally speak with this individual and see just what it is we all are missing.
If you are an inept lier, such as Tom Suozzi, your smoke screen's will eventually fade when your not there blowing smoke ( along with hot air). What Tom Suozzi and his entrenched political hacks are doing to Glen Cove will happen in Nassau County, but he will be no where to be found.Most likely not even Albany.
It is unacceptable that the taxpayers of Nassau County are being used by a County Executive that leaves the lowest common denominator of Political Hacks to run our county, while he is off, dancing in Boston by himself and raising money in other state's.
Do it on your own time Tom, back in the Public Sector.
Taxpayer
09-14-2004, 06:40 AM
When did this alleged purchase and flipping of property take place by Suozzi at Crescent Beach Rd. in Glen Cove and who is Mohring?
Karl Hungus
09-14-2004, 06:45 AM
Trying to get to the facts re: Suozzi's alleged purchase of a large parcel near Crescent Beach Rd in Glen Cove for residential development (with Mohring?) or flipping property to developer. Any info?
Karl Hungus
09-14-2004, 09:06 AM
Mohring is the developer (or could be). The rumor is Suozzi recently purchased the property and is trying to get it subdivided. Neighbors are upset at the proposed density. No facts...only rumors (hence the inquiry).
Glen Cove Development
09-14-2004, 11:37 AM
Under what names, businesses do they play? How come the financial disclosure form specifically exempts political contributions?
nassau gal
09-14-2004, 03:19 PM
Is this the same Mohring who donated part of a building to the City of Glen Cove when Suozzi was running in the primary against Di Napoli or when he was actually running for County Executive? This building was used to move the laborers from the trailer at the railroad station to a building on Sea Cliff Avenue. Is this correct?
Hold the Block
09-14-2004, 04:17 PM
Neighbors move to block Suozzi land sale
County exec seeks to buy 1.8 acres, and sell part to developer
BY CELESTE HADRICK
STAFF WRITER
September 15, 2004
Nassau County Executive Thomas Suozzi is buying a 1.8-acre property in Glen Cove and plans to sell part of it to a developer who would build two additional houses, a move that has led angry neighbors to form a homeowners association to fight the deal.
Suozzi said Tuesday that he put together a plan with Glen Cove developer Richard Mohring that would allow Mohring to build two houses on one acre of land-locked property behind a ranch-style home that Suozzi intends to make his new home.
The county executive has a contract to buy the brick house and property on Crescent Beach Road for $1.025 million, and a contingent contract to sell the back acre to Mohring for $650,000.
Mohring recently bought one neighboring lot and is buying another, which will give him access to the wooded acre where he plans to build two new Victorian-style single-family homes, according to Mohring's attorney, Jeffrey Forchelli.
Suozzi said the brick ranch will provide more room and privacy for his growing family than his current home on Landing Road, which he is selling for $680,000. The county executive, who earns $109,000 in his public job, said selling the back acre on his new home will help him afford the move.
Nassau assessment record lists the 3,626-square-foot brick ranch as having 10 rooms with 21/2 baths. It is valued at $1,111,700. A local Realtor, who asked not to be identified because she does business in Glen Cove, said the price Mohring is paying for the acre "sounds about right," given that he has to build a private road and a cul-de-sac to get access to the new lots.
Suozzi said his contract requires him to buy the ranch from Theodora Goldberg regardless of whether he can sell the back acre. Forchelli said Mohring's purchase of the acre from Suozzi is contingent on approval of the proposed subdivision by the Glen Cove Planning Board. Suozzi appointed a majority of the board's current members when he was mayor of Glen Cove, before taking office as county executive in 2002.
Suozzi said he will face a financial hardship if the subdivision is not approved and will have to borrow more money to go through with the purchase.
But he said, "I have not spoken to a single member of the planning board about this. The builder to the best of my knowledge is not seeking anything except for what is a matter of right."
Forchelli said the Glen Cove planning board must forward the application for review to the Nassau County Planning Commission, whose members were all appointed by Suozzi. Forchelli said, however, such a small subdivision would probably be referred back to Glen Cove for local determination. Planning commission chairman Lewis Yevoli, a former state assemblyman and Oyster Bay town supervisor who served with Suozzi on the old county board of supervisors, could not be reached for comment.
Suozzi's involvement was not listed in the application filed with Glen Cove, despite the state's general municipal law that requires public officials to disclose any interest in land-use applications before local municipalities.
Suozzi said he wasn't aware of the law and Forchelli took the blame for the omission. He said Mohring filed the subdivision application on Aug. 2, but Suozzi and his wife, Helene, did not sign the contract to sell Mohring the back acre until Aug. 10.
"There was no requirement for him to file at the time the application was filed," Forchelli said. "However, once he signed the contract, there was. In order to avoid a technical violation, we're filing a disclosure affidavit now."
Suozzi added, "As a practical matter, it's common knowledge in Glen Cove that I'm buying the Goldberg house."
But local homeowners say they know about Suozzi's involvement only by rumor. Donald Bikoff, president of the newly formed Pine Ridge Homeowners Association, said neighbors are concerned about overcrowding and "McMansions" being built in the area they have come to know as "the woods."
He said he was "a little scared of repercussions because we've got this small little group against a big powerful political figure." But he added that most of his group were Democrats, like Suozzi, and, "We'd like to work together for a common goal. We want to maintain the beauty and integrity of the property."
Forchelli said the plans have been revised to "show sensitivity to the neighbors" by providing as much foliage and green belts as possible. Because of their concerns, a Sept. 21 hearing before the Glen Cove planning board has been adjourned until Oct. 5, he said.
"I hope when they learn more about it that they will be excited about my family and I moving into the neighborhood," Suozzi said. "Helene and I love Glen Cove. We were both raised here. This is where we plan to raise our children."
John Holmes
09-14-2004, 05:01 PM
A public official who never made more than $109,000 a year, and who spent most of his career in the public sector, finances a million dollar home by a) selling his $650K home, b) buying a +$1M home in an exclusive neighborhood, and then c) selling the back acre to a developer for $600,000.
This is the height of selfishness. First of all, exclusive neighborhoods encourage large lot zoning to preserve the integrity and home values in their neighborhood. Small lots encourage traffic and devalue the nearby properties, since land is a unique item, and exclusivity on the coastal areas is what the neighbors strive for.
Second, this has to have an impact upon Tom's donor base, as he must have offended people who gave him money to campaign, namely wealth Democratic neighbors who probably contributed to his campaign as a fair haired son. Then again, those Limo Liberals deserve it. It is ok if Tom is trying to squeeze the middle class in the Levittowns of the world. Now it looks like he wants to threaten his neighor's property values solely to purchase an exclusive address.
Tom should just stay in his nice house that he has now. Tom has to learn how to grow up. He picked a middle class occupation, so he should stay in his middle class home. Just like County Executive Gulotta, who for years was happy to remain in his beloved Merrick.
And just how closely tied is Mr. Suozzi to this developer?
Karl Hungus
09-15-2004, 02:15 AM
I saw the Newsday article this morning. Isn't it interesting that Suozzi waited until Primary Day to make the announcement so it wouldn't get into the paper until the next day (and potentially reduce support for Lavine within the base).
I wonder if Newsday had this information earlier and held it until after the primary? It was apparently an open secret in the Crescent Beach Rd neighborhood what was going on.
How galling for Suozzi to plead ignorance of the law and the Forchelli firm to take the rap for Suozzi's failure to disclose, when Forchelli is perhaps the most powerful RE law firm in NC if not LI.
Suozziland
09-15-2004, 03:03 AM
Like maybe one of the party leaders..........................
Nassau Dem
09-15-2004, 04:45 AM
Again, why is everyone acting so surprised? This land deal will go before the Glen Cove Planning Board (wow, what will they decide?), after the County Planning Board bounces it back for local determination (wow, another shocker), and it will be approved. lol...Suozzi did not know of the law about disclosure...I have to laugh, he is an attorney, was a Mayor of a City and now is County Executive, but yet he does not know the law? I highly doubt that. Isn't amazing what this gang is able to do without any hesitation or any fallout. Must be nice to have a teflon coat. Remember all good things do come to an end.
Mohring
09-15-2004, 05:11 AM
He allowed Chuck Lavine to place his signs on his land until he removes it for his Republican friends. Make no mistake this guy is no friend to the Democrats.
His boy's on the OB town board allow him to build substandard homes on top of each other . He owes half the contacters in the area money and few will touch his jobs.
Jealousy
09-15-2004, 07:14 AM
So Suozzi's selling $700K home to buy a million dollar home for about $550K. Selling the back acre for $600K is a great financial move and the rest of you are just jealous you didn't think of it first.
His position gives him connections and he's using them. Sort of like what Mondello did to reach Oyster Bay Cove.
Unbelieveable
09-15-2004, 08:10 AM
I find it hard to believe that being an attorney, he would not have known that this type of subdivision by an elected official requires disclosure.
NO surprise here
09-15-2004, 03:45 PM
Not quite the brightest minds in the business huh?
Neighorhood man
09-16-2004, 04:29 PM
You're a clueless idiot. Subdividing a lot in high priced, large lot luxury community is a complete betrayal of a community, both by the seller and the buyer.
Large lot parcels, particularly in exclusive areas, are tailored towards preserving everyone's investment in their properties. Subdividing a particular parcel threatens the integrity of the entire community, particularly if other lots follow in kind. The value and exclusivity of your four acre gold coast home is lost if someone builds several houses on a single large lot.
Pulling bullcrap like this would be bad enough if Tom Suozzi were a nobody. But Tom Suozzi is an important local politician. He is high profile. His example could be followed by others. Also, he is offending an important part of his political base, wealthy people from Glen Cove. If these people had brains, they would pull all of their support from Tom Suozzi and actively campaign for the end of his career.
If Suozzi can pull down his pants and take a huge crap in his own neighborhood, which is exactly what he is doing, think about the havoc he may wish to create in yours! !
Hold the Block
09-16-2004, 05:00 PM
the Lavine does house closings in Glen Cove for the Taliban!
Block Buster
09-17-2004, 01:13 AM
You have a 1.8 acre parcel with a nice sized ranch on it. You leave .8 of a parcel with the same ranch, which once subdivided will pay taxes for about a 600k to 700k house.
You take the remaining 1 acre and cut it in half, and build two million dollars homes on each half acre. Each 1/2 acre with home will pay taxes equal to an 800k to 1million home depending on what Mohring builds.
In the end you bring two new families into the neighborhood each on a half acre lot, so you're not talking about overcrowding or even moderate density. These individuals will be high net worth, so they likely will contribute to the community using its stores, car dealerships, etc. You also bring a minimum of 20000 additional into the school district, not to mention additional county and Glen Cove taxes. This means lower taxes, albeit slightly, AND you bring the County Executive into your neighborhood so that increases your police protection.
I wish someone would bust my neighborhood like that.
GlenCover
09-17-2004, 06:50 AM
This stuff goes on all over Glen Cove..Now it's spreading to the tony 'hood.. Sweetheart deal after sweetheart deal is Glen Cove's mantra. "Smart Growth" essentially is throwing down cement anywhere and everywhere. Never considering the repercussions only to ensure all the chroanies get a piece of the pie.. One by one they laugh all the way to the bank and into their McMansions... Streets filled with multi family housing, chroanie contractors who turn 3 bedroom houses into sectioned apartments houses holding 5-8 sectioned apartments on the QT.. Two (not 1 wasn't enough) vacant parking lots thanks to Senior Suozzi's.. Don't forget the "luxury apartments" erected promising metro's yuppiest only to succumb to Section 8 housing. I am not sure when people realize that this administration is not for the people.. It's only for CERTAIN people... Shhhhhhh - we can't talk about this. If we do we are labeled as hate mongerers.. Why should we discuss this when we have Fix Albany and the grand waterfront?? What a great way to change the subject while you and your people have turned Glen Cove into the most corrupt city in America... It's all about Rhetoric, Spinning and trick photography. Where were you when Acclaim went out of business and padlocked their doors? The heros that you are - did you step in to help fight for the employees who were stiffed pay? We now have another white elephant to add on to the vacancies. I did not see that covered in the Record Pilot... Where are the glossy photos of the "move-in specials" "rents lowered" signage at the Avalon? I saw the ribbon-cutting photo and received the propapganda direct mailer which did not include section 8 housing. I love all those ribbon cutting kodak moments... But the Kodak moment conveniently never captures the aftermath. I guess that is not part of "Smart Growth - build wherever you want" plan..
Karl Hungus
09-17-2004, 09:51 AM
Please elaborate on your comment re: Avalon and Section 8. Are you saying that Avalon is specifically seeking renters with Section 8 certs or will they just accept them as any law-abiding landlord should?
Neighborhood Man
09-17-2004, 02:06 PM
You don't get it. You must be Suozzi, trying to spin his own deal. The single residence, large lot size is what preserves the integrity of a wealth, single family home community. Subdividing the lot is what will ultimately dimiish the uniqueness of the area, and its housing.
By your logic, build a high rise apartment or a corporate headquarters on that acre, which would be worth $10,000,000, and the neighbors would like that too.
Of course, this does not cut the mustard. The homeowners association is livid, and understandably so. If Tom Suozzi cannot understand his own community's opposition to his personal development plans, he must be considered clueless with respect to the rest of the Island.
Puzzled
09-18-2004, 03:45 AM
Last time I heard, to get a variance you must have a hardship. The Suozzis' knowningly bought a house where they then planned to sell off a portion of the land in order to make their purchase more affordable. The hardship is self imposed and premeditated. This does not meet the requirements for a variance. If anyone but the Suozzis' had done something like this, they would have been denied a variance. I wonder if we can get a variance from Suozzi since he has imposed hardships upon the County since he arrived as CE. And to those who feel that Suozzi's land deal is a stroke of genius, no one but he could get away with what he is doing.
I also think he has forgotten that as CE he has a conflict in obtaining a variance. Who along the path of obtaining a variance will have the courage to deny the Suozz a variance? How many decisionmakers have the backbone to stand up to him and do the right thing which is to deny the variance and say that the hardship is self-imposed? I guess no one will want to see the Suozz throw a fit or stomp his foot.
Subdivision
09-18-2004, 03:55 AM
I think it was a subdivision with out the need for a variance according to Newsday article.
give me a break
09-18-2004, 04:11 AM
Herr Suozzi
What happened
11-16-2004, 10:56 AM
Anbyody give the town king a run for his money or are they all still mesmorized over in glen cove ? I really want to know what's in their drinking water.
Huntington taxpayers fund
11-17-2004, 10:00 AM
Hearing was continued to December 7 while Forchelli continues to negotiate with the neighbors.
golly
11-17-2004, 11:15 AM
Is this the same Forchelli who is rumored to be the Locust Valley Republican leader while he kisses up to the Glen Cove Democrats?
North Shore guy
11-17-2004, 05:39 PM
Not a rumor Forchelli the same guy taking over Locust Valley Republican Club.If Locust Valley Republicans had any guts they say NO to Forchelli and get someone that's a real Republican.But don't count on it.Most club members either work for county,TOB,or lawyers getting work from the town, state,or county.
Wangs Way
11-19-2004, 12:07 AM
Now that Suozzi screwed his own home town by putting an despised outsider in Albany who won't be able to bring a dollar home to Glen Cove, solely to get Sidikman out of the way to make things easier for Charles Wang's re-development plan in Plainview - you know - Wang's Village - Chuckie baby owes the Suozz Man. And the money he donated to him, and the $1.50 surcharge on every Nassau Colliseum event that now goes into Suozzi's couffers - is just the beginning.
Constance Pershing
12-02-2004, 03:23 AM
From today's article in Newsday:
"Mohring, whose company contributed $1,150 to Suozzi's campaign in 2000, has no projects pending before the county board, Forchelli said. Suozzi said that as mayor and county executive he never had official dealings with Mohring."
True to a point but there is a parcel on Shore Road in Glen Cove owned by somebody else that Mohring wants to buy to turn into condos. Its getting reviewed by the planning board in Glen Cove. I think it will go to the county for approval once Glen Cove approves it. Anybody want to guess who the owner's lawyer is?
golly
12-02-2004, 08:45 AM
I'm still curious to know if the building on Sea Cliff Ave. in Glen Cove that is used as a hiring hall for day workers, instituted under Suozzi, is owned or was owned by Mohring. And by the way, everybody in Glen Cove knows that Mary An Holzkamp is really not the mayor of Glen Cove. It's still the former mayor calling the shots.
Where is it
12-03-2004, 06:21 AM
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neighbor
12-03-2004, 07:14 AM
the owner's name is Najjar and the attorney, who else, but Forchelli!!!!
Mohring Enterprises ad na
12-06-2004, 12:58 PM
and who is Suozzi's mortgage broker in this deal? Could it be Patrick Williams? Sounds like a deal that he would put together. Big $$ mortgage, not enough income to cover it, creative financing to create the illusion that this is a good deal. Illegal, who knows, and who cares!!!
On the Wall
12-07-2004, 10:54 AM
Glen Cove City Hall 7pm. Some one should suggest to LittleTommy tanrum that living within your means is good solid economic practice, isnt that what he said he would do for Nassau County?
curious
12-07-2004, 05:08 PM
So, how did Tom Suozzi make out at the meeting tonight. Did his land deal get approved or is that a silly question?
NSRep
12-08-2004, 09:44 AM
As reported in Newsday today, the Planning Board meets tonight at 8:00 PM in GC City Hall for the disposition of this deal. Should be interesting to see how Tom behaves himself in front of the people he wants to landlock. Stay tuned.
Karl Hungus
12-08-2004, 11:19 AM
Last time I understand it was Forchelli (and only Forchelli) who showed up and made the presentation. Why would Suozzi walk into firestorm when he doesn't have to. Wouldn't his appearance be interpreted as sending a message to the Planning Board, and they've taken enough flak already?
homeowner
12-13-2004, 11:43 AM
Tom Suozzi
Newsday December 10th 2004, about the zoning hearing in Glen Cove and his sweet heart deal with Morhing.
"its been a very difficult process, Suozzi said. But that's one of the consequences of having the great privilege of serving as a public servant".
he really belives what his mommy tells him, he's the King of Glen Cove, and the Nassau County taxpayers are his personal servents.What a spoiled arrogant little boy he is.
Christmas Caroller
12-20-2004, 04:03 PM
If I want to carol at the Suozzi's - what's the address?
And more importantly - how come the guy is buying a million and half dollar house while he's taxing most of the rest of the middle class out of their homes and doing absolutely nothing in terms of adding any affordable housing to this County?
Your friends should know
05-20-2005, 06:53 PM
Tell your friends about Suozzi's private development deal Print out this thread and show it to them. Pass around the truth. Get Suozzi out in 2005
What are the terms for Suozzi's repayment and how come we never got any follow-up story in Newsday about whether or not the zoning was changed just for Tom's subdivision project. Maybe Wang can build a hotel on that property huh? Call it Latino Haven.
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