Brookhaven public safety

Does anybody know what the Brookhaven public safety people do? Why do they have red lights and sirens? I see them on the side of the road with the lights on behind cars. Do they do car stops? From a distance their uniforms look like a cop. Whats the deal? Some of them look like they are still in high school and others look 100 years old. Do they have any training on anything at all? Do they go to the police academy? Are they peace officers that can arrest? Just curious...

[guest2]

For your information the brookhaven public safety department enforces all town codes with in the town. They have red lights and sirens because they are part of the civil defence system. They do not make traffic stops outside of town parks, however they do impound vehicles for the SCPD and Suffolk Sheriffs. That is why you see them with their lights on behind cars.

They are not police or peace officers. They cannot make arrests, but they can issue parking tickets anywhere in the town and can issue field apperance tickets for violations of town code. They are NYS certified security guards and are all over 18 years of age. Any officers who drive marked units and answer radio calls do receive additional training in handeling calls and ticket writing and are evaluated each year by supervisors. They do not attend the police academy.

They mostly enforce quality of life issues, like noise complants, overwieght vehicles, illegal dumping, ect... They also patrol all town parks and facilities.

I hope this answers your questions.

For your information the brookhaven public safety department enforces all town codes with in the town. They have red lights and sirens because they are part of the civil defence system. They do not make traffic stops outside of town parks, however they do impound vehicles for the SCPD and Suffolk Sheriffs. That is why you see them with their lights on behind cars.

They are not police or peace officers. They cannot make arrests, but they can issue parking tickets anywhere in the town and can issue field apperance tickets for violations of town code. They are NYS certified security guards and are all over 18 years of age. Any officers who drive marked units and answer radio calls do receive additional training in handeling calls and ticket writing and are evaluated each year by supervisors. They do not attend the police academy.

They mostly enforce quality of life issues, like noise complants, overwieght vehicles, illegal dumping, ect... They also patrol all town parks and facilities.

I hope this answers your questions.
Werent Islip DPS officers given peace officer powers?

[Broohaven]

Brookhaven tried that but when the requirements for becoming a peace officer became known the town relized they would have to get rid of 75% of the Department. Know this for fact I used to work there. Most guys thought they were cops though. My most memorable is an italian guy that drove limos on his day off. :lol:

[TOWN CLOWN]

These guys cant write V & T on county roads can they?

[Suz]

If they can enforce quality of life issues and village ordinances, why do they allow 500 day laborers to clog up sidewalks and streets? Why do they allow flop-houses to dump garbage and appliances on their front lawns? Why are construction vehilces (heavy equipment) allowed to be stored on residential property (i.e. the same flop-houses). Why do they let these illegal rentals exist in the first place, in clear violation of fire codes and building laws?

Too busy breaking john-q-public's ball$?

ALSO KNOWN AS TOWN CLOWNS, THEY USUALLY KNOW SOMEONE OF MINOR IMPORTANCE WITHIN THE REPUBLICAN PARTY, THEY CAN GET THIS GREAT JOB THAT PAYS A WHOPPING $8.10 PER HOUR OF COURSE THEY THEN HAVE TO WORK THIER BUTTS OFF SELLING THE TKST AND MAKING SURE THE POLITICAL SIGNS STAY UP, THEY ALSO WOULD LOVE TO HAVE BEEN A REAL COP AND THIS IS ABOUT AS CLOSE AS THEY WILL EVER COME TO THAT.

[Town Public Safety]

Their cars look to much like police cars. Their Uniforms look to much like police uniforms. These guys DO NOT carry guns. Whats happens when a skell shots one thinking hes a cop.

Their cars look to much like police cars. Their Uniforms look to much like police uniforms. These guys DO NOT carry guns. Whats happens when a skell shots one thinking hes a cop.
Ive seen Town of Islip DPS at the airport with guns. They were police until 1960 when the name was changed to public safety and their police powers stolen by the County PD.

[who cares about islip]

Their cars look to much like police cars. Their Uniforms look to much like police uniforms. These guys DO NOT carry guns. Whats happens when a skell shots one thinking hes a cop.
Ive seen Town of Islip DPS at the airport with guns. They were police until 1960 when the name was changed to public safety and their police powers stolen by the County PD.

This is about Brookhaven Public Safety not ISLIP. brookhaven does not carry guns. Saw one with a scanner one time with the 6th precinct blairing over it while I was getting pizza one night.

I got pulled over by theme about two years ago. This guy was demanding my license. I asked him if he had the authority to pull me over and if he would call the Suffolk Police. Then the guy just turns around and leaves me on the side of the road. I did not know whether to stay or go.

I got pulled over by theme about two years ago. This guy was demanding my license. I asked him if he had the authority to pull me over and if he would call the Suffolk Police. Then the guy just turns around and leaves me on the side of the road. I did not know whether to stay or go.

:lol: Wasnt that the CLASH that did that song..... "Should I Stay or Should I GO NOW"

Who is in charge over there in Brookhaven public safety? Unlike other towns, you never hear from or see the public safety guy during any kind of storm, etc.

The little man behind the curtain, pulling all the levers.

[clueless on LI]

most of the Brookhaven Public Safety are ok from what I know of them but there are a few major wanna bes with unmarked older crown vics with red lights and sirens and supposedly I hear they have been doing dwi checks & other things they aren't supposed to do - run into them clowns report them to Foley - about time these wanna bes got taken down & possibly arrested for impersonating real police - one of these guys is a kid & a major badge bunny & supposedly he has SCPD friends in the 6th and goes on calls for SCPD with Cope - unarmed 10$ an hour clown gonna get shot & does SCPD know of this & condone it ............ hmmmmm - we shall see

most of the Brookhaven Public Safety are ok from what I know of them but there are a few major wanna bes with unmarked older crown vics with red lights and sirens and supposedly I hear they have been doing dwi checks & other things they aren't supposed to do - run into them clowns report them to Foley - about time these wanna bes got taken down & possibly arrested for impersonating real police - one of these guys is a kid & a major badge bunny & supposedly he has SCPD friends in the 6th and goes on calls for SCPD with Cope - unarmed 10$ an hour clown gonna get shot & does SCPD know of this & condone it ............ hmmmmm - we shall seeWell you are a little off. He tends to hang around the pct, and the officers in the Selden area, and cope. There is somewhat of a working relationship becuase the town sits on our impounds. Most of the calls he is on are just that impounds. He does tag along on a few real calls but they arent the type to involve shootings.

[clueless on LI]

ah ha - so it is true - and therefore this bozo can get the town sued and is thus impersonating real police because why the hell does Brookhaven have unmarked cars - I know a few people there who are in the legitimate marked cars who do the right thing and those guys in the 6th should be fired for encouraging these wannabes especially that little boy in question- do the higher ups at the precinct know of this - or how about Mr Foley?

[MindYourOwnBusiness]

If you mind your own business, you will be too busy to mind everyone elses.

[clueless on LI]

So I should sit by and watch more corruption of Brookhaven while the 6th precinct is allowing it to happen?This child is on Brookhaven's payroll while answering and tagging along on SCPD calls - I would reprimand anyone in my sector for encouraging fraternization with them wannabes - plus idiot you are missing the point they are driving unmarked cars and impersonating police - I have a good mind to call Foley myself or IA on the 6th - are you one of this childs flunkies from the 6th mind?

[davidh]

If you mind your own business, you will be too busy to mind everyone elses.

i dont think he should mind his business if someones breaking the law they should be punished not ignored and i think its disgusting the police are encouraging it its like saying its okay to impersonate a po i was pulled over and searched by one of these punks and i looked into it and found out public safety doesnt have the power to do this and i called the deputy commissioner an he stated he would look into it the commissioner was later arrested an it appears these pretend cops are still out of control its disgusting and it needs to be stopped

[unmarked]

Why, exactly do they need unmarked cars? I can understand the red lights for Safety on the side's of the road like someone said earlier, but why unmarked cars??
The whole police ride along thing is against PBA rules, aren't they? Why is this "kid" even working for Brookhaven, Couldn't make it in a real Police Department. Before any comments come my way, I made it!! I could pass the tests!!!!

ah ha - so it is true - and therefore this bozo can get the town sued and is thus impersonating real police because why the hell does Brookhaven have unmarked cars - I know a few people there who are in the legitimate marked cars who do the right thing and those guys in the 6th should be fired for encouraging these wannabes especially that little boy in question- do the higher ups at the precinct know of this - or how about Mr Foley?Nobody enourages anything, he is equipped with a scanner in his vehicle and shows up on his own, thats a issue within the town dept. Scpd has no authority over him unless there is a crime in progress call, that doesnt involve the town or the towns property. The Town guy puts himself on the call, on the 6th precinct radio, so it is public knowledge he is there. That is a problem for his supervisors, not scpd. What are the grounds for firing a officer?

Why, exactly do they need unmarked cars? I can understand the red lights for Safety on the side's of the road like someone said earlier, but why unmarked cars??
The whole police ride along thing is against PBA rules, aren't they? Why is this "kid" even working for Brookhaven, Couldn't make it in a real Police Department. Before any comments come my way, I made it!! I could pass the tests!!!!He doesnt ride along he is in his own vehicle.

[ho-hum>>>>>]

So I should sit by and watch more corruption of Brookhaven while the 6th precinct is allowing it to happen?This child is on Brookhaven's payroll while answering and tagging along on SCPD calls - I would reprimand anyone in my sector for encouraging fraternization with them wannabes - plus idiot you are missing the point they are driving unmarked cars and impersonating police - I have a good mind to call Foley myself or IA on the 6th - are you one of this childs flunkies from the 6th mind?He doesnt answer 911 calls, unless the police call for the town, which is pretty frequent. If he shows up and has a conversation with a officer, its really not a problem, and there are no grounds for a reprimand, the town employees have a good working relationship with the police, its no diferent than calling uot the highway dept, fire marshal or any other dept, or if one of the town workers pulled up next to one of us, and talked to us.
The town is involved anytime the police impound a vehicle other than for criminal reasons, so they assign a safety guy to cope when they do their atv stings, additionally the town does investigations and request a marked unit, like closing houses in Farmingville. The brass of scpd and the supervisors of the town are well aware of it. THe impersonating thing you could take up with the town.

Whether you like them or not they are town officials who have limited authority on town property(including town roads). They do not ''ride along"' with the police. They have their own vehicles, they work with the police on many matters, such as quads, graffiti, and other quality of life matters, they have a entire book of town ordinances that they are authorized to enforce and can write summonses that possibly could lead to your arrests. Additionally they can give supporting depos for arrests for crimes they've seen, and if you refuse to comply with their lawful orders you can be arrested same as if they were police.

Why, exactly do they need unmarked cars? I can understand the red lights for Safety on the side's of the road like someone said earlier, but why unmarked cars??
The whole police ride along thing is against PBA rules, aren't they? Why is this "kid" even working for Brookhaven, Couldn't make it in a real Police Department. Before any comments come my way, I made it!! I could pass the tests!!!!
Why does the Sheriff's Office have unarmed cars with lights?

**unmarked

[zz]

Why, exactly do they need unmarked cars? I can understand the red lights for Safety on the side's of the road like someone said earlier, but why unmarked cars??
The whole police ride along thing is against PBA rules, aren't they? Why is this "kid" even working for Brookhaven, Couldn't make it in a real Police Department. Before any comments come my way, I made it!! I could pass the tests!!!!
Why does the Sheriff's Office have unarmed cars with lights?

hmm maybe because its the Sheriff's Office duh

Well gee the same public safety ''kid'', along with the rest of public safety, was working today with cope doing a unregistered m/v on private property crackdown, as a joint effort between scpd and the town, so I guess both scpd and the town are well aware of your little agenda and dont really care.

Why, exactly do they need unmarked cars? I can understand the red lights for Safety on the side's of the road like someone said earlier, but why unmarked cars??
The whole police ride along thing is against PBA rules, aren't they? Why is this "kid" even working for Brookhaven, Couldn't make it in a real Police Department. Before any comments come my way, I made it!! I could pass the tests!!!!
Why does the Sheriff's Office have unarmed cars with lights?

hmm maybe because its the Sheriff's Office duh
What do they need unmarked cars for? I dont think one needs an unmarked car to serve warrants or cruise around the jail perimeter.

Why, exactly do they need unmarked cars? I can understand the red lights for Safety on the side's of the road like someone said earlier, but why unmarked cars??
The whole police ride along thing is against PBA rules, aren't they? Why is this "kid" even working for Brookhaven, Couldn't make it in a real Police Department. Before any comments come my way, I made it!! I could pass the tests!!!!
Why does the Sheriff's Office have unarmed cars with lights?

hmm maybe because its the Sheriff's Office duh
What do they need unmarked cars for? I dont think one needs an unmarked car to serve warrants or cruise around the jail perimeter.What do you care, if you arent breaking the law they arent going to arrest you marked or umarked

[ex tob]

Well gee the same public safety ''kid'', along with the rest of public safety, was working today with cope doing a unregistered m/v on private property crackdown, as a joint effort between scpd and the town, so I guess both scpd and the town are well aware of your little agenda and dont really care.

look i used to work for the town and i know where clueless is coming from this kid is a ass kisser thats how he gets away with stuff he even used to get almost 40 hrs while we only had 20 he went to las vegas with then one of the heads of dept who later was arrested and fired isnt that a little funny he got a special trip he does things only cops should do plus buffing calls is illegal

[clueless on LI]

well ex that certainly sheds some light on some of this - perhaps DA Catterson should have probed deeper into that department and may have had a few more arrests . Lets end this already and just stick with the facts, this is going off on tangents that are not pertinent to the original issue. Earlier posts stated that most of them are either young kids or 100 year olds who make like $8 or $10 an hour. I have no problem with them so long as they have clearly marked units and uniforms and do not buff or follow our units to calls. Buffing and having a scanner doing so is illegal and I researched it and their cars are NOT equipt with scpd scanners as one ill informed individual stated before. I found out that their responsibilities are to patrol town parks and properties , answer noise complaints like barking dogs and ASSIST our units for impound removal - no further . So any pulling over , searching people, dwi /sobriety checks out of parks is illegal on their part. The main issue is why do they have some unmarked cruisers this encourages children who have dreams and aspirations to play cop and to have our guys encourage tagalong and come to our calls is inexcusable . They should say stop buffing our calls little one and tend to the calls the taxpayers are paying for , tend to fido now. There is no "agenda" here as some moron said , look at the fellas like david h and the guy who got pulled over and demanded a county unit - we all know it's happening and the town should not have these cars. The young men I have encountered from there in CLEARLY MARKED cruisers seemed respectful and weren't trying to be something they are not. Look like I said , MOST of them are good kids but we all seem to know of a few individuals , one in particular it would seem that everyone is aware of who are not doing the right thing. This kid and his flunkies I have been told like to hide their patches and town id with these unmarked cars supporting criminal impersonation . So for the guys like david and John Q. Public - this is the age of technology - demand to see id and demand a SCPD unit and catch them with your camera phone or video cameras. For our guys to say he does go on some calls with us tagging along is wrong and you know it , no buffing - send them away . The town has to mark ALL of their units and keep an eye on these bad seeds and this kind of thing wouldn't happen . So that is it - any further naysaying will make you look ignorant

[licop]

well ex that certainly sheds some light on some of this - perhaps DA Catterson should have probed deeper into that department and may have had a few more arrests . Lets end this already and just stick with the facts, this is going off on tangents that are not pertinent to the original issue. Earlier posts stated that most of them are either young kids or 100 year olds who make like $8 or $10 an hour. I have no problem with them so long as they have clearly marked units and uniforms and do not buff or follow our units to calls. Buffing and having a scanner doing so is illegal and I researched it and their cars are NOT equipt with scpd scanners as one ill informed individual stated before. I found out that their responsibilities are to patrol town parks and properties , answer noise complaints like barking dogs and ASSIST our units for impound removal - no further . So any pulling over , searching people, dwi /sobriety checks out of parks is illegal on their part. The main issue is why do they have some unmarked cruisers this encourages children who have dreams and aspirations to play cop and to have our guys encourage tagalong and come to our calls is inexcusable . They should say stop buffing our calls little one and tend to the calls the taxpayers are paying for , tend to fido now. There is no "agenda" here as some moron said , look at the fellas like david h and the guy who got pulled over and demanded a county unit - we all know it's happening and the town should not have these cars. The young men I have encountered from there in CLEARLY MARKED cruisers seemed respectful and weren't trying to be something they are not. Look like I said , MOST of them are good kids but we all seem to know of a few individuals , one in particular it would seem that everyone is aware of who are not doing the right thing. This kid and his flunkies I have been told like to hide their patches and town id with these unmarked cars supporting criminal impersonation . So for the guys like david and John Q. Public - this is the age of technology - demand to see id and demand a SCPD unit and catch them with your camera phone or video cameras. For our guys to say he does go on some calls with us tagging along is wrong and you know it , no buffing - send them away . The town has to mark ALL of their units and keep an eye on these bad seeds and this kind of thing wouldn't happen . So that is it - any further naysaying will make you look ignorant

amen to that

The problem is the guy tends to tag along on calls involving a impound, so you cant really fault him for showing up ''early'' to a call involving a impound that the town has to go to.
The other issue as far as what his responsibilities are, any where there is a town property, not just parks, town roads, ala the summons for vehicle for sale within 50 ft of town highway, summons for the unregistered m/v on personal property, which means they can walk right up to your house. The town has scanners to communicate with each other, and are authorized to communicate on our band, as is belle terre, port jeff contables, old field since they do assist on our calls.
i'm not a fan fo this kid, but apparently several higher ups from cope sgts, lts, and above like the work this guy does. He suggested the current crackdown onunregistered m/vs.
But you know what sooner or later it all comes down, if you as a civilian have a issue with how a town official treated you or whether or not he overstepped his boundaries, call his superiors lodge a complaint.

[ex tob]

they cannot do anything on public roadways outside of town parks and properties so he is in violation there it is true that they can pick up impounds that is all I know who you are talking about and he bragged all the time about his pals in cope & the 6th going with them to calls like domestic disputes and yes while on the towns dime also going onto peoples properties for unregistered vehicles is waste managements job not public safety like clueless said he was right about what they can do plus issue parking tickets and appearance tickets for code violations and violations in town parks he is a manipulative ass kisser and a liar and can get you brothers fired apparently vegas wasnt the only trip looks like your lieutennants and such took trips in the alley behind the precinct because he is talented thats why the former commissioner took him on the trip and promoted him and let him have extra hours and perks like free reign with the unmarked car youre being duped into breaking the law be careful

Thereare dozens of town codes/ordinances that the safety officers have, inlcuding vendors, anything park related, the unscreened m/v on private property, bonfire related ones, I have the list somewhere, it was given to a town guy.
I dont think it eally matters much if the car is marked or unmarked, but he cant do traffic stops. I would nt stop for him, he look like a kid with a old police car screwing around

[great5599]

no one cares about this person or what public saftey does, Until they hurt or possibly kill someone.....just like any other municipality. All I have to say is be carefull around them, so you don't get hurt and they don't either.
GO BROOKHAVEN PUBLIC SAFTEY!!!!!

no one cares about this person or what public saftey does, Until they hurt or possibly kill someone..


Didn't that already happen ?

[great5599]

so, i guess they hurt or killed someone???? they made the news for what, 1 week and that was it, like any other municipality !! my point exactly......

i remember that one, the guy was driving down the road and some car load of kids "blew"--->not fact<--- the red light and he hit them and killed them. the public saftey guy was pretty messed up too. that wasn't on the news that long...one maybe two days, great5599 was correct with his posts!!