Levy has completely lost his mind

[Choirboy]

Democratic County Executive Steve Levy today intends to propose hiring 20 percent of recruits from the county's five top crime areas starting in 2007 to boost the number of minorities in the Suffolk County Police Department.

Levy is scheduled to announce his plan at a Suffolk police academy in Brentwood. The plan, which Levy's Republican opponents branded racially insensitive, aims to replace a minority cadet program struck down as discriminatory by federal court in 1997.
The proposal, which needs approval by the U.S. Justice Department, would require that up to 20 percent of the 2007 recruit class be selected from the five communities with the highest number of felony arrests. Candidates would be selected based on the highest scores of the police civil service test by individuals in those five ZIP codes. Hires from the high crime areas would be assigned to patrol in those communities.

"We believe this program will pass constitutional muster, because it is focusing on the highest rated crime areas within the county as opposed to specific race, gender or ethnicity of individuals," Levy said.

Levy aides say the targeted communities will include Brentwood, Bay Shore, Huntington Station, Central Islip and Wyandanch, though the county executive last night said the number could be expanded later. Levy said the county expects to submit the proposal to the Justice Department later this week.

"You've got to be kidding me," said Legis. Peter O'Leary (R-Moriches). "It appears that the county executive is equating high crime areas with minorities. If I'm a resident of any of those five ZIP codes, I'd be insulted."

However, Yvonne Quirk, president of the NAACP's Islip chapter, said, "When you look at the high crime areas, where are they? In the minority community. I don't think it's a slap in the face, I think it's a realistic approach to a problem."

Legislators also would have to approve the proposal. While applauding efforts to boost minority hiring, Legis. Vivian Viloria Fischer (D-Setauket), said, "Putting a geographic restriction that creates an equation that is offensive to minority groups is not the right way to couch the initiative."

Legis. David Bishop (D-West Babylon), who has tried to revive the cadet program, said, "It's a good idea to come up with something. I don't know whether this is that good idea."

Alan Schneider, county civil service chief, said that state law does not provide for giving preference to applicants who who come from specific geographic areas. "The law is simple that hiring is based on rank order from highest score down," Schneider said.

[Guest112]

To all of you SCPD candidates or those who plan on taking future exams, better back your bags and move to either Wyandanch, Huntiington Station,Brentwood, Bay Shore, or Central Islip, otherwise you can forget about being hired!!! you gotta be kidding me!!!! :roll:

[Choirboy]

Can anybody else see that this is a horrendous idea? First of all, this is reverse discrimination. 20% of a class is going to be reserved for minorities regardless of how they score in comparison to the rest of the candidates. How can you expect people to spend 100 dollars just to take the test if they are already put at a disadvantage just because they don't live in a crime ridden neighborhood. What about those candidates that live outside of Suffolk County that live in crime infested areas of brooklyn, queens, and even parts of Nassau (Hempstead for example). Are these people going to get the same advantage? I for one believe that the Police Dept should reflect the best candidates for the job rather than be forced to try and reflect the socioeconomic makeup of the county. If the best candidates are white, black, hispanic, asian, female, etc...., then these are the people who should be hired. The test is the same for all people. If you can't pass the test or score high enough to make the cut then I'm sorry but that is the way it is. With foolish ideas like this one, this job is going to turn into the NYPD very quickly (no offense to any city cops, worked there myself for several years). This is obviously an attempt by Levy to secure minority votes for the next election.

[JimJam]

So the people who are hired will be put back to patrol their own neighborhoods? He's just asking for trouble if that's the case. How many offenses will be overlooked because " I know that guy", " He's my neighbor", or " I went to school with her".

Insane, the reason why we have veyr few minorities is that either very few are qualified or very few want law enforcement as a profession.

[OhJeez]

Looks like the white man loses out again....Oh wait, I am sure that white males living in CI will be chosen, right ???!!??? Yeah sure !!! Besides, how many of these minorities are felons themselves ?? Whats next Stevie, are we going to let convicted felons join the police force ??????

[Laddie Boy]

Can anybody else see that this is a horrendous idea? First of all, this is reverse discrimination. 20% of a class is going to be reserved for minorities regardless of how they score in comparison to the rest of the candidates. How can you expect people to spend 100 dollars just to take the test if they are already put at a disadvantage just because they don't live in a crime ridden neighborhood. What about those candidates that live outside of Suffolk County that live in crime infested areas of brooklyn, queens, and even parts of Nassau (Hempstead for example). Are these people going to get the same advantage? I for one believe that the Police Dept should reflect the best candidates for the job rather than be forced to try and reflect the socioeconomic makeup of the county. If the best candidates are white, black, hispanic, asian, female, etc...., then these are the people who should be hired. The test is the same for all people. If you can't pass the test or score high enough to make the cut then I'm sorry but that is the way it is. With foolish ideas like this one, this job is going to turn into the NYPD very quickly (no offense to any city cops, worked there myself for several years). This is obviously an attempt by Levy to secure minority votes for the next election.
I agree 100 % but this is nothing new. They have been discriminating against whitey for over 20 years now to try and bring the numbers of minorities up to what the Justice department thinks it should be. They have tried EVERYTHING to do this . The CSA Program that they used to hire minorities and females back in the mid 80's was not available to white males. They tried it again under a different name ( interns ) which again was only available to minorities. They made tests that were supposed to give them high numbers of minorities in the higher grades- that failed. They have tried banding test grades and lotteries and nothing is working for them. This is what Liberals do. They discriminate but give it a different name. It's action against whites, affirmative. I say just go to the colleges around the tri state area and recruit only the best minority students from all of them. Give them the job ( about 2-300 should make them happy) . No test , just give it to them. Then maybe for the next 20 years or so we can get back to hiring only the most qualified individuals and judge them not by the color of their skin but by their abilities.

[Crazy Horse]

What about Cherry grove.??? Will there be a "GAY" only list

[laddie boy]

What about Cherry grove.??? Will there be a "GAY" only list
No joke , anyone who screams loud enough ( except bisexual , white males ) can find some liberal to stand behind them and push to have them hired ahead of better qualified people.

Its for when the tapes come out, Levy can say, "wait, that wasn't me!! I helped a whole bunch of minorities get on the SCPD!"

[code blue]

ever heard of marc collier? how bout the female PO from the 5th who stated on the air ' I's be hungry now' i think that pretty much wraps it up

[LevyBullshit]

Another classic case of Levy grand-standing... This 'sounds' like a good idea in theory..., but in practice, it will never work and will fail.

Typical Levy...Float stupid 'I-know-it-will never-pass-muster-but-sounds-good-to-the-public-and-my-championship-for-the-little-guy-taxpayer-campaign-but-got shot-down-by-the-anti-partisan-legislature' ideas.. Go away Steve (Freddie Mercury). You have no idea how to run the county..You should have stuck to living in mommy's basement and lifting weights....Stop floating bull$hit ideas / legislation that u know will never get passed... Take a freakin stand on something and stick with it. You take a postion on something but change your stance if the political tide moves against you..You have no morals..no fortitude..Typical politician...You go thru more cycles than my Kenmore washing machine...Levy is a zero..A one hit wonder...

[Guest 26]

Geographic area? I hope everyone can see this is just a Levy ploy to give a speech saying he is helping the minority community. There is no way the SC Legislature or Justice Department will ever approve this.

I have to ask all of the SCPD hopefulls about what they think of this. Sorry.. you have earned a good living and live in a nice community. Your chances of being a SCPO are now limited.

And as a resident of Suffolk County, I want the best canditates to apply and get selected to enforce the law. Not based on a particular community... it doesn't make ANY sense.

Now if someone cannot afford the $100 application fee due to an economic hardship, I am complete in support of waiving that fee if it truly applies. This way you can keep it even and people are not held back from applying to become police officers based on economics. But to give them an advantage over other qualified canditates? No way.

So the people who are hired will be put back to patrol their own neighborhoods? He's just asking for trouble if that's the case. How many offenses will be overlooked because " I know that guy", " He's my neighbor", or " I went to school with her".

The same offenses that they overlook that are committed in the whitey white areas, from their own.

So the people who are hired will be put back to patrol their own neighborhoods? He's just asking for trouble if that's the case. How many offenses will be overlooked because " I know that guy", " He's my neighbor", or " I went to school with her".

The same offenses that they overlook that are committed in the whitey white areas, from their own.

Not too many kids hanging out in the Whitey White areas selling crack. What about the Blackey Black areas - can't say the same! Act like human beings, be treated like human beings. Act like animals and you'll be treated like animals!!!!

ever heard of marc collier? how bout the female PO from the 5th who stated on the air ' I's be hungry now' i think that pretty much wraps it up




How bout that female in th 5th is a very good worker and a nice person. If you are on the job, you've never said anything on the radio that made you sound like a bonehead? If so, then you've never spent much time in a police car. I know I said one or two things that the rest of the squad got some yuks from.

So the people who are hired will be put back to patrol their own neighborhoods? He's just asking for trouble if that's the case. How many offenses will be overlooked because " I know that guy", " He's my neighbor", or " I went to school with her".


The same offenses that they overlook that are committed in the whitey white areas, from their own.


It isnt a white or black thing, its a how many of my neighbors or my kids am I willing to lock up thing. How many summons will I write or arrests will I make in my own neighborhood thing, how many of my neighbors domestic situations will I be privy to, how many of my neighbors will I commit.?Horrible idea, just think of the reprecussions within the neighborhood for you, your house,car, dogs etc., your kids, wives husbands.
You dont poop where you eat, better to have non-residents of that particular sector patrol it. Too close to home, plenty of other neighborhoods and cops to go around.

[Cuckoo for Cocoapuffs]

ever heard of marc collier? how bout the female PO from the 5th who stated on the air ' I's be hungry now' i think that pretty much wraps it up




How bout that female in th 5th is a very good worker and a nice person. If you are on the job, you've never said anything on the radio that made you sound like a bonehead? If so, then you've never spent much time in a police car. I know I said one or two things that the rest of the squad got some yuks from.
You don't know what the hell you are talking about. IN addition to her radio SNAFU , she was arrested in a patrol car for DWI, blood test .30 , found another time in possession of a Stolen Maglite with the other Officres Badge engraved on it, and when she was arrested for the DWI she had several different types of Ammo in her gun . What happened to the dept issued rounds ?? She also had a sibling arrested for robbery and I believe he had some of her missing ammunition. Sure she is very nice , she should be . she still gets 100K a year in a job given to her on a silver platter, all she had to do was pass the written test. lucky to still have her job.

pardon my french but LEVY IS AN F@#$%^G A55#$%E is he kidding??? he sure as hell fooled suffolk county when he ran for office. IS THERE ANY POSSOBLE WAY THIS RETARDED MORON CAN BE IMPEACHED???????? I'm sure leg. pete oleary will have something to say if he didn't already.............

[Ohman]

ever heard of marc collier? how bout the female PO from the 5th who stated on the air ' I's be hungry now' i think that pretty much wraps it up




How bout that female in th 5th is a very good worker and a nice person. If you are on the job, you've never said anything on the radio that made you sound like a bonehead? If so, then you've never spent much time in a police car. I know I said one or two things that the rest of the squad got some yuks from.
You don't know what the hell you are talking about. IN addition to her radio SNAFU , she was arrested in a patrol car for DWI, blood test .30 , found another time in possession of a Stolen Maglite with the other Officres Badge engraved on it, and when she was arrested for the DWI she had several different types of Ammo in her gun . What happened to the dept issued rounds ?? She also had a sibling arrested for robbery and I believe he had some of her missing ammunition. Sure she is very nice , she should be . she still gets 100K a year in a job given to her on a silver platter, all she had to do was pass the written test. lucky to still have her job.


Cmon, can that really be true ??? She was arrested on duty, blew a .30 and still has her job ???????????

[Finally The Truth]

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"How bout that female in th 5th is a very good worker and a nice person. If you are on the job, you've never said anything on the radio that made you sound like a bonehead? If so, then you've never spent much time in a police car. I know I said one or two things that the rest of the squad got some yuks from.[/quote]
You don't know what the hell you are talking about. IN addition to her radio SNAFU , she was arrested in a patrol car for DWI, blood test .30 , found another time in possession of a Stolen Maglite with the other Officres Badge engraved on it, and when she was arrested for the DWI she had several different types of Ammo in her gun . What happened to the dept issued rounds ?? She also had a sibling arrested for robbery and I believe he had some of her missing ammunition. Sure she is very nice , she should be . she still gets 100K a year in a job given to her on a silver platter, all she had to do was pass the written test. lucky to still have her job.[/quote]"

!!!!! WHAT ???????????????? I hope this is a joke!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[Capt Willard]

"He's out there operating without any decent restraint, totally beyond the pale of any acceptable human conduct, and he is still in the field commanding troops."

If Levy can't see the multitude of inherent problems with this assinine idea he shouldn't be mowing the lawn in a county park, much less be county executive. By saying he is going to hire minority recruits from high crime areas and then put them back in there to police their own he will effectively isolate a known problem area and rely on the community to heal itself. What does he want to do next, put a bio-dome over it? Why not just transfer in a few dozen Tonton Macoute from Haiti?

Politicians just can't seem to stop pandering and groveling for votes. There are job openings. You take a test. You score high enough, you get hired (assuming you pass the background, etc.). What's so f***'n hard to grasp? Civil Service is there as a legal guideline, not an obstacle course. If you want something bad enough you study, train and work to achieve it. It's called accomplishment, the opposite of handout.

ever heard of marc collier? how bout the female PO from the 5th who stated on the air ' I's be hungry now' i think that pretty much wraps it up




How bout that female in th 5th is a very good worker and a nice person. If you are on the job, you've never said anything on the radio that made you sound like a bonehead? If so, then you've never spent much time in a police car. I know I said one or two things that the rest of the squad got some yuks from.
You don't know what the hell you are talking about. IN addition to her radio SNAFU , she was arrested in a patrol car for DWI, blood test .30 , found another time in possession of a Stolen Maglite with the other Officres Badge engraved on it, and when she was arrested for the DWI she had several different types of Ammo in her gun . What happened to the dept issued rounds ?? She also had a sibling arrested for robbery and I believe he had some of her missing ammunition. Sure she is very nice , she should be . she still gets 100K a year in a job given to her on a silver platter, all she had to do was pass the written test. lucky to still have her job.


Cmon, can that really be true ??? She was arrested on duty, blew a .30 and still has her job ???????????
Didn't blow, Blood test 2 hours later .30. Freedom of Information act , check it out. All true !!

[turbinator]

It's all true, and for the guys with time on the job, she was found in possession of another PO's gas card....The dope didn't realize the usage is recorded along with the fleet number of the car you are putting gas in and they traced it back to her...but of course,nothing happened

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"How bout that female in th 5th is a very good worker and a nice person. If you are on the job, you've never said anything on the radio that made you sound like a bonehead? If so, then you've never spent much time in a police car. I know I said one or two things that the rest of the squad got some yuks from.
You don't know what the hell you are talking about. IN addition to her radio SNAFU , she was arrested in a patrol car for DWI, blood test .30 , found another time in possession of a Stolen Maglite with the other Officres Badge engraved on it, and when she was arrested for the DWI she had several different types of Ammo in her gun . What happened to the dept issued rounds ?? She also had a sibling arrested for robbery and I believe he had some of her missing ammunition. Sure she is very nice , she should be . she still gets 100K a year in a job given to her on a silver platter, all she had to do was pass the written test. lucky to still have her job.[/quote]"

!!!!! WHAT ???????????????? I hope this is a joke!!!!!!!!!!!!!!![/quote] Not a joke. all true, every single word.

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"How bout that female in th 5th is a very good worker and a nice person. If you are on the job, you've never said anything on the radio that made you sound like a bonehead? If so, then you've never spent much time in a police car. I know I said one or two things that the rest of the squad got some yuks from.
You don't know what the hell you are talking about. IN addition to her radio SNAFU , she was arrested in a patrol car for DWI, blood test .30 , found another time in possession of a Stolen Maglite with the other Officres Badge engraved on it, and when she was arrested for the DWI she had several different types of Ammo in her gun . What happened to the dept issued rounds ?? She also had a sibling arrested for robbery and I believe he had some of her missing ammunition. Sure she is very nice , she should be . she still gets 100K a year in a job given to her on a silver platter, all she had to do was pass the written test. lucky to still have her job.[/quote]"

!!!!! WHAT ???????????????? I hope this is a joke!!!!!!!!!!!!!!![/quote]



I know just what the hell I'm talking about. How about the cop that handed her the keys and radio when she showed up un-fit for duty? Then let her take control of the PD. He should have handled it a lot better.

How about all the white guys who have commited much worse crimes and were allowed to keep their jobs. Some of them big bosses. And they still walked around like they were better than everyone. Being a cop for 23 years and 3rd gerneration (father NYPD and grandfather in Fla) I think I have a right to my opinion. She does a good job and is a lot nicer to be around then some other officers.

And by the way, I've lost several maglights and hangstroms in pd's. A lot of cops seem to have sticky fingers.

[Been There 2]

I'm retired after 22 years and have I ever lost a flashlight? Yes. Often? No. Are there cops who will glom your stuff? Yes. You know who they probably are, so do like you would with any other scumbag thief. Lock 'em up. He ain't your partner, he's your liability.

:shock:

know just what the hell I'm talking about. How about the cop that handed her the keys and radio when she showed up un-fit for duty? Then let her take control of the PD. He should have handled it a lot better.

How about all the white guys who have commited much worse crimes and were allowed to keep their jobs. Some of them big bosses. And they still walked around like they were better than everyone. Being a cop for 23 years and 3rd gerneration (father NYPD and grandfather in Fla) I think I have a right to my opinion. She does a good job and is a lot nicer to be around then some other officers.


Right 2 wrongs dont make a right, no pun intended. No one who commits a crime should get away with it, of course they must be found guilty 1st.

ever heard of marc collier? how bout the female PO from the 5th who stated on the air ' I's be hungry now' i think that pretty much wraps it up




How bout that female in th 5th is a very good worker and a nice person. If you are on the job, you've never said anything on the radio that made you sound like a bonehead? If so, then you've never spent much time in a police car. I know I said one or two things that the rest of the squad got some yuks from.
You don't know what the hell you are talking about. IN addition to her radio SNAFU , she was arrested in a patrol car for DWI, blood test .30 , found another time in possession of a Stolen Maglite with the other Officres Badge engraved on it, and when she was arrested for the DWI she had several different types of Ammo in her gun . What happened to the dept issued rounds ?? She also had a sibling arrested for robbery and I believe he had some of her missing ammunition. Sure she is very nice , she should be . she still gets 100K a year in a job given to her on a silver platter, all she had to do was pass the written test. lucky to still have her job.


Cmon, can that really be true ??? She was arrested on duty, blew a .30 and still has her job ???????????

Absofukinglutely. Her Sgt. tried switching her down in vain multiple times to scratch her book. She wouldn't answer up. The Sgt. went looking for her and got into a pursuit w/ her on Rte. 112 in a construction zone. She did minor damage to the car and was driven home at the direction of her Sgt. by another on duty PO. As for the .30 thing, I'm not too sure about that, sounds like an embellishment.

I'm retired after 22 years and have I ever lost a flashlight? Yes. Often? No. Are there cops who will glom your stuff? Yes. You know who they probably are, so do like you would with any other scumbag thief. Lock 'em up. He ain't your partner, he's your liability.

That's the biggest problem with SCPD. Can't keep their own damn house clean.
:shock:

So the people who are hired will be put back to patrol their own neighborhoods? He's just asking for trouble if that's the case. How many offenses will be overlooked because " I know that guy", " He's my neighbor", or " I went to school with her".

The same offenses that they overlook that are committed in the whitey white areas, from their own.

Not too many kids hanging out in the Whitey White areas selling crack. What about the Blackey Black areas - can't say the same! Act like human beings, be treated like human beings. Act like animals and you'll be treated like animals!!!!

That's cuz Whitey White goes to them. Or they go right to Whitey Whites front door or their job. Even near your stores it goes on. And don't sit here on your computer and say you have no drug dealers on your block or in your schools. Your a liar.

So the people who are hired will be put back to patrol their own neighborhoods? He's just asking for trouble if that's the case. How many offenses will be overlooked because " I know that guy", " He's my neighbor", or " I went to school with her".

The same offenses that they overlook that are committed in the whitey white areas, from their own.

Not too many kids hanging out in the Whitey White areas selling crack. What about the Blackey Black areas - can't say the same! Act like human beings, be treated like human beings. Act like animals and you'll be treated like animals!!!!

That's cuz Whitey White goes to them. Or they go right to Whitey Whites front door or their job. Even near your stores it goes on. And don't sit here on your computer and say you have no drug dealers on your block or in your schools. Your a liar.

Dear Stevie and your race baiting azzwipe "Bobby" . Mr. black ice is a racial statement, Mr. it's not white out it's correction fluid. I have a great idea. Why don't you involuntarily transfer all minorities on the job and FORCE them to work only in minority communities. Why wont you? If you did the minorities on the job would sue just like their puppet leader Bobby and get promoted to the next higher rank from which they currently are incapable of functioning. Hey Bobby, how's 957 doing? How long did it take you to figure that one out. Nice job a few weeks back dictating to Levy and his little dog Dormer too about how "you aren't going to promote 10 Sgt.s you are going to make 12, because a black man is sitting #12". Nice job creating more racial division within the dept. you grown up version of Erkel. Mr. what do you mean you extended the Sgt. list to 4 years, you must have known that I did poorly on this list and would have really knocked it dead in another two years and you extended the current list to prevent me from taking the exam again in which I know I would have done well all to discriminate against me. Ooops I shouldn't have said all of that, you might send one of your "detectives" to my house and felony criminal mishchief my car because I spoke not nicely to you. What do you do w/ a PO who gets drunk and kicks and stomps every fender of a car in a 7-11 parking lot because a white woman called him to task for parking too closely to her car so that she couldn't get in when the PO was drunk? Well if it's a minority PO you assign him to the geographically closest police facility which was the Police Academy where he spent the entire day working out in the weight room for numerous months until the smoke clears and then you promote him to Detective and send him to Bias Crimes. If racial tensions are running high in the dept. you have no one to blame besides the person wearing the Det.Sgt. tin.

[Crazy horse]

No matter what is said and done, there will be those who will stand and yell about this or that was not done equally fair. And like Laddie-boy said There will be some liberal to stand behind him or her. [ mostly to get another vote]

Here is an Idea ! Anyone wanting an aplication to take the PD test must pick it up at HQ. The fee will be paid by Money order only.
At that time He/she will be given a NUMBER . That number is there Only ID. No name or address will be on the Aplication. No info. on the aplication will be designed to indicate there Race, sex, ETC.
They mail in the aplication with a money order [ if it has not been paid at HQ]. There notice of acceptance or denial will be posted by NUMBER only on the internet. [ or posted in the libary or post office] All libaries have free internet service.
When they take the test they will be IDed by there number.
When the scores come out who could bitch?? the PD didn't even have there name?
OK it has a flaw or two, but It is as fair as you can get.

That's cuz Whitey White goes to them. Or they go right to Whitey Whites front door or their job. Even near your stores it goes on. And don't sit here on your computer and say you have no drug dealers on your block or in your schools. Your a liar.[/quote]

All I know is my school is a hell of a lot safer than any school in Wyandanch. My school doesn't have Police responding to it every other day! The houses in my area all have front doors and front lawns. A black kid can walk down my street without getting mugged but I know a white kid can't do the same in Wyandanch. Oh thats right, it's all because of slavery 150 years ago. It is my fault I appologize.

ever heard of marc collier? how bout the female PO from the 5th who stated on the air ' I's be hungry now' i think that pretty much wraps it up




How bout that female in th 5th is a very good worker and a nice person. If you are on the job, you've never said anything on the radio that made you sound like a bonehead? If so, then you've never spent much time in a police car. I know I said one or two things that the rest of the squad got some yuks from.
You don't know what the hell you are talking about. IN addition to her radio SNAFU , she was arrested in a patrol car for DWI, blood test .30 , found another time in possession of a Stolen Maglite with the other Officres Badge engraved on it, and when she was arrested for the DWI she had several different types of Ammo in her gun . What happened to the dept issued rounds ?? She also had a sibling arrested for robbery and I believe he had some of her missing ammunition. Sure she is very nice , she should be . she still gets 100K a year in a job given to her on a silver platter, all she had to do was pass the written test. lucky to still have her job.


Cmon, can that really be true ??? She was arrested on duty, blew a .30 and still has her job ???????????

Absofukinglutely. Her Sgt. tried switching her down in vain multiple times to scratch her book. She wouldn't answer up. The Sgt. went looking for her and got into a pursuit w/ her on Rte. 112 in a construction zone. She did minor damage to the car and was driven home at the direction of her Sgt. by another on duty PO. As for the .30 thing, I'm not too sure about that, sounds like an embellishment.

You must be talking about a different situation or you have your facts mixed up. She was not driven home she was arrested. Blood test results came back .30 . and to the WORLDLY 23 tear veteran , yes you are entitled to your opinion but don't go on about how nice she is and defend her actions. there are too many occurrences . We as police officers are supposed to have higher morals. Not saying there aren't other jerks on our job , of course there are. They are assholes in every profession that give everyone a bad name. Kind of funny how Liberals always seem to defend the minorities when they screw up, much like Mr. 23 years experience did. A dirtbag is a dirt bag. Liberals also love painting with a broad brush the whole Dept as corrupt because of the actions of a small handful of dirtbags. It's never the minority dirtbags though , always the white dirtbags like F.W..

[Laddie boy]

No matter what is said and done, there will be those who will stand and yell about this or that was not done equally fair. And like Laddie-boy said There will be some liberal to stand behind him or her. [ mostly to get another vote]

Here is an Idea ! Anyone wanting an aplication to take the PD test must pick it up at HQ. The fee will be paid by Money order only.
At that time He/she will be given a NUMBER . That number is there Only ID. No name or address will be on the Aplication. No info. on the aplication will be designed to indicate there Race, sex, ETC.
They mail in the aplication with a money order [ if it has not been paid at HQ]. There notice of acceptance or denial will be posted by NUMBER only on the internet. [ or posted in the libary or post office] All libaries have free internet service.
When they take the test they will be IDed by there number.
When the scores come out who could bitch?? the PD didn't even have there name?
OK it has a flaw or two, but It is as fair as you can get.

I agree that would be very fair. Unfortunayyely Fair and right are not what they are interested in. They only care about hiring and promoting minorities. The only way to accomplish this is by discriminating against white males. Nothing else has worked for them. I'm certain in another 150 years it will be the same bull shit. Affirmative action( thats what it is regarless of what spin or name you put on it ) is like I said earlier ACTION against whites. AFFIRMATIVE

[SCPD PATROL 3]

Levy is grandstanding again! The exam for police officer is a CIVIL Service test. This was done for a reason (I have not forgotten about a PRIOR incident involving the test). The justice department has been involved in recent exams as it regarded minorities. We have minorities on our job who go to work everyday do their jobs well and go home to their families like everyone else. There is a percentage, unfortunately who make those hard workers jobs much harder because the stir the pot. (One, recently retired, is rumored to become the next Dep Commish).

To ALL candidates, the test is fair. It matters not your race, where you live,religion, ethnicity, sex or sexual preference. You have to APPLY yourself to pass it, you'll need to be in the 90's-high 80's to most likely get hired. Take prep courses if you think you need to. Then ther's the rest of the other things, physical, psch, polygraph, backgroung, etc. If the County Exec is willing to hire officers, then you may be as fortunate as we are. Yes, we complain about the job, but we've been here and seen things that need addressing--from sector car shut downs, the illegal cadet program, and now Levy's plan to play games with the hiring process. That hiring process will DIRECTLY affect YOU. Contact your County legislator and let them know how you feel about this!! Remember, it does not appear that the County will be hiring in large numbers. Don't sit idly by and let this off the wall plan happen. Protect your future career!

[HOWEIRD]

WHITE AMERICA...WAKE UP!!!!

[You work for ME]

Shut up and get to work. Remember, YOU all work for ME, I'm your boss. You will do as you're told.

And I don't care if you don't like it.

http://www.visionhuntington.org/awards_03/images/SteveLevy.jpg

I think Im going to be sick

Does Little Stevie still live in his mother basement? You know, in an illigal apartment.

[Worldly 23 veteran]

I'm not defending what she did, never did I do that. I am defending what she has become. Unlike many other officers who keep screwing up and don't change. They keep taking a verbal or the lose of a few days but keep screwing up.

The last thing I am is a liberal. I am very conservative. I take people for who they are. I can name useless white detectives who have a hook, as well as minority ones. I can also name good detectives on both sides however they got their shield. I don't believe in hiring quotas or narrow-minded people who air dirty laundry here instead of using the forum effectively.

the 2007 class will be from this current list,i recieved a 90% on the test and i figure to hopefully be in that class,are they going to take people who scored lower than me because they live in a certain neighborhood,if so that would be a great injustice and hopefully would be fought by the powers that be.

[CB MAN]

I CAN SEE IT NOW LOW LIFE FROM THE HOOD GETTING ON THE JOB THEN HOME IMPROVEMENT MAKEOVER REDOING HIS HOUSE.

[hedgehog]

One poster mentioned that maybe some minorities are unqualified. Isn't the only qualification to become a member of the SCPD to fog a mirror? (taking classes at SCCC is about the same thing)

The Suffolk County Police exam is an OPEN civil service exam. There is no bias in an OPEN exam of this type. The test takers with the highest grade are called. They must show up in business attire on time to meet with a background investigator as well as pass a "so called" polygraph, physical, agility and psychological exam as well as complete a seven month academy. The bottom line is that the people with the highest grades and cleanest backgrounds are awarded with the Suffolk County shield. There is no discrimination any where in the process. It is open to all who take the test.

[TROLL-BAIT]

One poster mentioned that maybe some minorities are unqualified. Isn't the only qualification to become a member of the SCPD to fog a mirror? (taking classes at SCCC is about the same thing


Let me see, troll. Between 1994 and 2004 suffolk has given 3 exams to enter the Police force, out of the 3 exams close to 65,000 potential recruits ponied up 100 bucks a pop to take the test. Out of the 3 tests there were over well over 1000 lawsuits over disqualifications, and 1 test was thrown out. A total of a mere 400 officers were sworn into service from these 3 last tests.
Seems there is a bit more than fogging mirrors going on troll-bait

[hedgehog]

Right. You have to fog the mirror TWICE in order to pass. That way you can prove you're qualified to point a radar gun and write a ticket. Obviously minorities are way under-qualified to do that.

Right. You have to fog the mirror TWICE in order to pass. That way you can prove you're qualified to point a radar gun and write a ticket. Obviously minorities are way under-qualified to do that.
Right and you must be one of the thousands mentioned, on the outside looking in, oh well, next test should be around 2010.
Ha, hey the towns hiring park cleaners, maybe you could get that job, just a ged, no test.
Ps you dont qualify for a radar dector just because you are a cop, nice try though

Right. You have to fog the mirror TWICE in order to pass. That way you can prove you're qualified to point a radar gun and write a ticket. Obviously minorities are way under-qualified to do that.

:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

Right and you must be one of the thousands mentioned, on the outside looking in, oh well, next test should be around 2010.
Ha, hey the towns hiring park cleaners, maybe you could get that job, just a ged, no test.



:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

[hedgehog]

Sorry, I'd buy and sell you in a heartbeat. And I missed the story where scpd became neurosurgeons.

[hedgehog]

And wait a minute, you need special training just to point a radar gun? You guys are in more trouble than I thought. I don't think baseball scouts need any special training, do they?

Sorry, I'd buy and sell you in a heartbeat. And I missed the story where scpd became neurosurgeons
Right seems everyone anti cop posting here coudl buy and sell us.
Gee, so rich you got nothing better to do than troll a police message board?
Maybe when school starts, they'll give you some homework

And I missed the story where scpd became neurosurgeons.
Ha, had you done well enough on the test to reach orientation, you would have met ;lawyers, nurses, teachers, brokers, emts,paramedics,accountants.
In my class we had a good mix of the above,plus a federal agant Alcohol and tobacco, a Secret Service agent, and a pro rugby player, just about all the graduates had a college degree. All of this is public record, easily verified.
Neurosurgeons? hardly, but again of the 23000 applicants for my test only 400 were made cops. SCPD had their choice of whom they wanted, and they picked the best qualified.
Your ignorant little quips to the otherwise just proves you to be a troll.

[ignorance of the troll]

And wait a minute, you need special training just to point a radar gun? You guys are in more trouble than I thought. I don't think baseball scouts need any special training, do they
Right you ignorant little troll, the scouts in baseball arent testifying in court, under oath, you have to be licensed to use it as part of your testimony. Its just another license we have to qualify for. No one really does radar anymore, they use a laser gun.
freaking moron

[Im rich too]

Sorry, I'd buy and sell you in a heartbeat. And I missed the story where scpd became neurosurgeons
I'm rich too, so I spend hours a day trolling the cops, especially scpd on this message board, because I got my priorities straight.
Thats what rich people like us who can buy and sell scpd in a hearbeat do, right hedgehog?

[st ives]

just making sure is her initials cb ?whats the deal with bl hurt in the academy 18 years ago?

[Exec Madness]

Wait until the new sheriff is elected then you will see what the exec has in mind for the PD WINK WINK.

Wait until the new sheriff is elected then you will see what the exec has in mind for the PD WINK WINK
Yeah I heard we are going to round up all the child beaters in Islip, J.R. is leading the charge, Kick the doors in boys

Wait until the new sheriff is elected then you will see what the exec has in mind for the PD WINK WINK.
Oh please, whatever its amazing how dweebs posting here have all this inside info, but nothing ever pans out.
The police function independently of the sherriff, and the Exec has been trying for 2 years to mess with the pd, nothing has changed and nothing will.

The Suffolk County Police exam is an OPEN civil service exam. There is no bias in an OPEN exam of this type. The test takers with the highest grade are called. They must show up in business attire on time to meet with a background investigator as well as pass a "so called" polygraph, physical, agility and psychological exam as well as complete a seven month academy. The bottom line is that the people with the highest grades and cleanest backgrounds are awarded with the Suffolk County shield. There is no discrimination any where in the process. It is open to all who take the test.

Wrong !!!!! they band the grades together so If white guy with 95 is in same band with black guy with 90 , the balck male has an equal chance with the lottery pick. get your facts staright.

[laddie boy]

you heard it here first . I Guarantee that if by some miracle they adopt his whacky idea about hiring from high crime areas that pretty much all of the 20 % hired will be from WYANDANCH !!! there are at least 50% whites in Bay Shore, Brentwood, and Central Islip and many will take the test and score well. Can't say that about Wyandanch. Gotta be 90-95 % black and the whites living there won't be taking the test , they probably all have Criminal records.

[any of levys plans]

Wont happen, and he knows it, its all about looking like hes working to make things better, always some outrageous plan that grabs the headlines. When hes shot down, no one seems to care, its almost expected that his plans fail.

Can't happen - I see it in my crystal ball now . . . I-N-J-U-N-C-T-I-O-N. By the time his plan gets rejected by a federal court because of its discriminatory nature, the only accomplishment will be depleted ranks and increased overtime. BTW: Were the hamlets picked because they are the highest crime hamlets? If so, what happened to Mastic and Mastic Beach? What crimes were used as a basis to form the list?

[hedgehog]

Get it straight. You had 23,000 applicants because ANYONE CAN BE A COP. 400 were chosen because that was the number of slots available, that's all. Don't get carried away with yourselves. A lot of you became cops because you couldn't/didn't want to go to college and you sure as heck didn't want the army. So to claim minorities aren't qualified? Please.

[hedgehog]

Just look at the thread on ncpd & scpd college credits and you'll see my point.

[Icarus]

Get it straight. You had 23,000 applicants because ANYONE CAN BE A COP. 400 were chosen because that was the number of slots available, that's all. Don't get carried away with yourselves. A lot of you became cops because you couldn't/didn't want to go to college and you sure as heck didn't want the army. So to claim minorities aren't qualified? Please.

You idiot! The county was able to "cherry pick" 400 candidates out of 23,000. At last count more than 50% of the SCPD had a college degree. Many others served in the army, navy, etc. Many still serve in the reserves and are currently in Iraq defending your right to say stupid things. So there goes your asinine theory. I guess you agree with the idea of recruiting from the areas where the criminals live. Be careful what you wish for, you just might get it.

Get it straight. You had 23,000 applicants because ANYONE CAN BE A COP. 400 were chosen because that was the number of slots available, that's all. Don't get carried away with yourselves. A lot of you became cops because you couldn't/didn't want to go to college and you sure as heck didn't want the army. So to claim minorities aren't qualified? Please
You dont know what you are talking about, of the 23,000 applicants over 200 were investigated for each of the 400 positions, there were many people with scores at 90 who never even got called for a interview, as the list expired.
In my class, nearly every person had a 2 year degree, minimum, not that that is a sign of intelligence, just schooling.
I agree with the poster who stated there was numerous professional folks jumping on the police bandwagon, and of course all the prior time leos, who had a degree as well.
No one is claiming minorities cant do l.e. but to hire someone because he/she is a minority over a more qualified person is wrong.
Instead of passing legislature, go to the middle or junior highs schools in those areas and promote the scpd for the next test.

Get it straight. You had 23,000 applicants because ANYONE CAN BE A COP. 400 were chosen because that was the number of slots available, that's all. Don't get carried away with yourselves. A lot of you became cops because you couldn't/didn't want to go to college and you sure as heck didn't want the army. So to claim minorities aren't qualified? Please
You are a fool you know that?
The county didnt just hire the top 400 names on the list... they interview and passed the candidates accordingly.
At the orientation I attended, there were people walking out in droves. At the mention of a drug test, license suspenions, criminal convictions, dwis.
Then at the physical test out of the 30-40 tested, nearly 1/2 failed one of the initial tests.
Then the pysche and background, where most of the people who flunked. Out of the row of people I sat with,from orientation only 1-2 made it to the polygraph.
My friend had a 92.5 on the test and never even got called, they never reached him. They went through about 10,000 candidates to pick the 400ish recruits, and even some of them, around 20-25 were fired at some point between the beginning of the academy and field training.

Get it straight. You had 23,000 applicants because ANYONE CAN BE A COP. 400 were chosen because that was the number of slots available, that's all. Don't get carried away with yourselves. A lot of you became cops because you couldn't/didn't want to go to college and you sure as heck didn't want the army. So to claim minorities aren't qualified? Please.
You are a troll, you go to college in scpd and even get about 20 credits towards a criminal justice degree. Unlike ''real college'' the minimum passing is a 80, and its a real course taught by certified teachers, and there are no gimmees you have to pass everything or you are fired. I scored a 89.75 in the class and was below the median (91).
There are additional areas such as emt certification, that take several weeks, with a tour in the hospital and the nys exam.
And I did do college 3 years, in business admin, same average in there(90) and was far higher in my class, top 30%. Its no walk in the park.

[hedgehog]

Okay, so what are the REQUIREMENTS for joining SCPD? From these posts it looks like you need to be able to pass a drug test, prove you're not a psycho, not have a criminal record, pass a polygraph, and be in good shape (you can wait until after you're a member to become fat and out of shape). And even this seems to be too much for a lot of people. You're a selective bunch in Suffolk.

[Icarus]

Okay, so what are the REQUIREMENTS for joining SCPD? From these posts it looks like you need to be able to pass a drug test, prove you're not a psycho, not have a criminal record, pass a polygraph, and be in good shape (you can wait until after you're a member to become fat and out of shape). And even this seems to be too much for a lot of people. You're a selective bunch in Suffolk.

Obviously the meager requirements are too much for you, or you'd be one of us already. Apparently you are even lower than you think WE are, so kill yourself already.

(you can wait until after you're a member to become fat and out of shape)
Gee thats funny, most of the guys I work with qualified for bike patrol school.
Considering we have a good gym in our pecincts that are packed every day, plus we get nice discounts at any gym on the Island, I dont see many walking donuts out here, granted some of the old timers arent in shape, but I'd hesitate to run from most of the newer classes.
Whats next, our flash lights are too bright?

[hedgehog is all talk]

Okay, so what are the REQUIREMENTS for joining SCPD? From these posts it looks like you need to be able to pass a drug test, prove you're not a psycho, not have a criminal record, pass a polygraph, and be in good shape (you can wait until after you're a member to become fat and out of shape). And even this seems to be too much for a lot of people. You're a selective bunch in Suffolk
Hey I got an Idea, take the next test just for fun, and see how well you do, remember more than 2 questions wrong, you are probably not going to make it.
Then assuming you do well enough on the test, go through the application procedure, and see how far you get.
Then decline after you've passed everything, unless you got the nuts to go thru the academy which is pretty hard, not as bad as basic in the army(Thankfully) but harder than the citys academy.
Certainly more than a dead end like you could handle
My guess is you wouldnt see orientation.

hedgehog is all talk
Of course, whatelse would you expect?
Needless to say it all falls under troll material, completely fabricated garbage, just to get some attention

hedgehog is all talk

Of course, whatelse would you expect?
Needless to say it all falls under troll material, completely fabricated garbage, just to get some attention


Right and here you all are feeding his need

3/31 (Combined Newsday Reporters) Yaphank, NY -

Suffolk County Executive Steve Levy announced a new and highly controversial initiative to lower crime rates in four previously announced neighborhoods: Mastic, Huntington Station, Brentwood and Wyandanch- by hiring so-called "part time" police officers drawn from the ranks of the local villages, Nassau County and New York City police departments. The plan was immediately blasted by the powerful Suffolk County PBA.
In a news conference at Suffolk County Police Headquarters in Yaphank today, Levy lauded the plan as a quick and effective method to place experienced and trained officers into neighborhoods that need assistance. "This will require a change of law, but I believe that this plan will work and make the streets of this County safer in a quick and timely manner."
Levy proposes hiring the officers at a rate of $35.00 an hour plus a uniform maintenance allowance. Officers will be authorized to wear the uniforms of their own agency; conceivably, residents of Huntington Station or Mastic could end up dealing with uniformed Nassau or City officers on routine calls.
Suffolk PBA President Jeff Frayler immediately blasted the idea. "Suffolk County will not be policed by New York City's officers, end of story." He further said that if the County were to move forward with this plan, the PBA would be forced to take some sort of job action, whether it be by legal means through the courts or possibly an all out strike. "If they do this, they better start hiring a lot more City cops because my people will be out walking picket lines and leaving this County-and its taxpayers- wide open."
Levy did not think that Frayler had reason to be concerned. "The other agencies are meant to supplement police services, not replace the hard working and professional officers that this County has had the luck in recruiting."
New York City PBA president Patrick Lynch could not comment on the plan when reached at the union's Manhattan offices but did say, "Anything that would put more dollars in my membership's pockets would be welcome by me."
Details on the hiring are still in the planning stages but Levy hoped to field the first officers by the beginning of the summer season.

3/31 (Combined Newsday Reporters) Yaphank, NY -

Suffolk County Executive Steve Levy announced a new and highly controversial initiative to lower crime rates in four previously announced neighborhoods: Mastic, Huntington Station, Brentwood and Wyandanch- by hiring so-called "part time" police officers drawn from the ranks of the local villages, Nassau County and New York City police departments. The plan was immediately blasted by the powerful Suffolk County PBA.
In a news conference at Suffolk County Police Headquarters in Yaphank today, Levy lauded the plan as a quick and effective method to place experienced and trained officers into neighborhoods that need assistance. "This will require a change of law, but I believe that this plan will work and make the streets of this County safer in a quick and timely manner."
Levy proposes hiring the officers at a rate of $35.00 an hour plus a uniform maintenance allowance. Officers will be authorized to wear the uniforms of their own agency; conceivably, residents of Huntington Station or Mastic could end up dealing with uniformed Nassau or City officers on routine calls.
Suffolk PBA President Jeff Frayler immediately blasted the idea. "Suffolk County will not be policed by New York City's officers, end of story." He further said that if the County were to move forward with this plan, the PBA would be forced to take some sort of job action, whether it be by legal means through the courts or possibly an all out strike. "If they do this, they better start hiring a lot more City cops because my people will be out walking picket lines and leaving this County-and its taxpayers- wide open."
Levy did not think that Frayler had reason to be concerned. "The other agencies are meant to supplement police services, not replace the hard working and professional officers that this County has had the luck in recruiting."
New York City PBA president Patrick Lynch could not comment on the plan when reached at the union's Manhattan offices but did say, "Anything that would put more dollars in my membership's pockets would be welcome by me."
Details on the hiring are still in the planning stages but Levy hoped to field the first officers by the beginning of the summer season.
Can i be hired part time police as a full time scpd?
hahahaha

is this for real? or april fools?

is this for real? or april fools?

April Fools. Try a search on Newsday's website for the words Frayler, Lynch or Levy and nothing of this sort comes up. Not to mention NYPD WILL NOT allow it's cops to work part time as a cop for another agency period end.

april fool deeek!

Whats next, our flash lights are too bright?


Maybe but for a dimwit like hedgehog, everything's too bright

bottom line..hegdhog your a retarded deli clerk who wishes he was a cop.....................next you take a test you pass the requirments you become a cop. thats it it doesn't matter if your blue green chineese indian purple sartroosh or midnight red.....you have to pass a backround...physical agility (which most fail) phsyc... polygraph...and the academy. (they don't hold your hand like the corrections academy)...............................so there

that the boyscouts from high crime areas are going to start responding to aided cases, since they are trained in first aid, and workin in double cars on 4x12's. supposedly they are working out a deal to have girl scouts start dispatching after school, and this would take the place of them having to sell girl sccout cookies.

that the boyscouts from high crime areas are going to start responding to aided cases, since they are trained in first aid, and workin in double cars on 4x12's. supposedly they are working out a deal to have girl scouts start dispatching after school, and this would take the place of them having to sell girl sccout cookies.

that the boyscouts from high crime areas are going to start responding to aided cases, since they are trained in first aid, and workin in double cars on 4x12's. supposedly they are working out a deal to have girl scouts start dispatching after school, and this would take the place of them having to sell girl sccout cookies.
Not only does your post not many any sense, its not funny if it was supposed to be,
and you posted the same drivel twice

that the boyscouts from high crime areas are going to start responding to aided cases, since they are trained in first aid, and workin in double cars on 4x12's. supposedly they are working out a deal to have girl scouts start dispatching after school, and this would take the place of them having to sell girl sccout cookies.Not only does your post not many any sense, its not funny if it was supposed to be,
and you posted the same drivel twice

[public service thread]

While this thread started out as a Levy thread, with the aid of a few SCPD insiders, it morphed into a discussion about police corruption in Suffolk County.

Very interesting, but sad, read about our "professionals" in blue.