Dormer is Retiring...Again

[GreenerPastures]

Heard that the PC will be announcing his retirement, which will be effective in either June or July.

Reason: To spend more time with his family

Real Reason: He created too much bad press for Levy

Now the question is - who will succeed him. Probably an outsider from a different PD, or a non-police type, slash and burn businessman.

Heard that the PC will be announcing his retirement, which will be effective in either June or July.

Reason: To spend more time with his family

Real Reason: He created too much bad press for Levy

Now the question is - who will succeed him. Probably an outsider from a different PD, or a non-police type, slash and burn businessman.

Levy will take a page out of his boyfriend Suozzi's book and hire an out of town Lee Brown type from NYC. I can guarantee Levy's new appointment will make more than dormerman.

Levy will take a page out of his boyfriend Suozzi's book and hire an out of town Lee Brown type from NYC. I can guarantee Levy's new appointment will make more than dormerman
Sadly more money for equal incompetence.Unless levy bucks the trend and hires someone knowledgeable about suburbun policing, more of the same ineffectual crap.
Truth is dormer was offered his old job at sports plus back, didnt want to risk being unemployed in 2 years when levys ousted.

[Heard that the PC will be announcing his retirement, which will be effective in either June or July.

Reason: To spend more time with his family

Real Reason: He created too much bad press for Levy]

Is the Commissioner aware of "his" plans?

Hasper for P.C.!

[Guest 26]

Interesting... Does anyone have any real confirmation of this?

Unfortunately Levy will hire another yes man that worked on his campaign.

He should hire someone who has (recently) worked in the Suffolk PD and knows how to run it.

First order of business: reverse all the damage Dormer has done over the past 15 months.

[mmw]

As predicted...Bye Bye DICK !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Who will be the next P/C ??? Let's look at the campaign contribution list..I'll guess either R.A.M. or R.P.

Put your boots on people, it's gonna get deep....

[Solongrich]

Heard that the PC will be announcing his retirement, which will be effective in either June or July.

Reason: To spend more time with his family

Real Reason: He created too much bad press for Levy

Now the question is - who will succeed him. Probably an outsider from a different PD, or a non-police type, slash and burn busi nessman.It doesn't matter who Levy hires b/c everyone knows that Commissioner Dor"mat" does whatever Levy wants anyway, I'm sure levy wants to keep total control of the dept.

[LUCKY CHARMS]

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i 'M NOT GOING ANYWHER LADDIES.

WHERE IS THIS INFO COMING FROM? HAS THERE BEEN ANY CONFIRMATION?

O well, he will just find another political hack. Why not "promote" chief of dept to commissioner?

[Guest 26]

O well, he will just find another political hack. Why not "promote" chief of dept to commissioner?

Ha! The Chief of Dept. is a political hack!

He was a Deputy Inspector that worked on Levy's campaign and became the Chief.

any truth to this?

[mmw]

Any Poice Commissioner for this county is a political hack. The P/C here has no teeth, no power (other than to 'F' with his suboordinates ie: PO's). An important position such as the P/C should be elected by the people. And why not... the Sheriff is elected (and who knows what the hell he does (besides spend $$ like a drunken sailor)...the county would certainly fuction w/o him). But the strings of the P/C are pulled by the C/E and the Legislators. All they want to hear is yes to COPE and footposts.. He is merely a puppet or a figurehead.. He is a politician by proxy...You don't need any leadership skills or special abilities to become the P/C...just a willingness to be a yes man and carry the torch of whoever put u there. And a bad haircut, I might add.

[Patrol rules!]

Any Poice Commissioner for this county is a political hack. The P/C here has no teeth, no power (other than to 'F' with his suboordinates ie: PO's). An important position such as the P/C should be elected by the people. And why not... the Sheriff is elected (and who knows what the hell he does (besides spend $$ like a drunken sailor)...the county would certainly fuction w/o him). But the strings of the P/C are pulled by the C/E and the Legislators. All they want to hear is yes to COPE and footposts.. He is merely a puppet or a figurehead.. He is a politician by proxy...You don't need any leadership skills or special abilities to become the P/C...just a willingness to be a yes man and carry the torch of whoever put u there. And a bad haircut, I might add.

COPE? I guess you haven't heard about the COPE nonsense in the 5th!! Put a female Sgt in there who called for a tow truck to change a flat on her PD. I guess she's too good to get her hands dirty. She was mouthing off since the day she got here about not staying in patrol too long cause she was too good. Well....it took her 20 years, but dammit she finally made it out of patrol LOL

[SCPD midniter]

Any Poice Commissioner for this county is a political hack. The P/C here has no teeth, no power (other than to 'F' with his suboordinates ie: PO's). An important position such as the P/C should be elected by the people. And why not... the Sheriff is elected (and who knows what the hell he does (besides spend $$ like a drunken sailor)...the county would certainly fuction w/o him). But the strings of the P/C are pulled by the C/E and the Legislators. All they want to hear is yes to COPE and footposts.. He is merely a puppet or a figurehead.. He is a politician by proxy...You don't need any leadership skills or special abilities to become the P/C...just a willingness to be a yes man and carry the torch of whoever put u there. And a bad haircut, I might add.

COPE? I guess you haven't heard about the COPE nonsense in the 5th!! Put a female Sgt in there who called for a tow truck to change a flat on her PD. I guess she's too good to get her hands dirty. She was mouthing off since the day she got here about not staying in patrol too long cause she was too good. Well....it took her 20 years, but dammit she finally made it out of patrol LOL

Nonsense?? Hows about..."No...nobody going to COPE in the 5th.....Oh wait there's always room for 1 special one!"

O well, he will just find another political hack. Why not "promote" chief of dept to commissioner?

Ha! The Chief of Dept. is a political hack!

He was a Deputy Inspector that worked on Levy's campaign and became the Chief.
So he went from an eagle to 4 stars just for working on Levy's campaign? INSANE. Every rank needs to become a civil service title.

Any Poice Commissioner for this county is a political hack. The P/C here has no teeth, no power (other than to 'F' with his suboordinates ie: PO's). An important position such as the P/C should be elected by the people. And why not... the Sheriff is elected (and who knows what the hell he does (besides spend $$ like a drunken sailor)...the county would certainly fuction w/o him). But the strings of the P/C are pulled by the C/E and the Legislators. All they want to hear is yes to COPE and footposts.. He is merely a puppet or a figurehead.. He is a politician by proxy...You don't need any leadership skills or special abilities to become the P/C...just a willingness to be a yes man and carry the torch of whoever put u there. And a bad haircut, I might add.
Merge PD into Sheriff's Office and get rid of everyone in SCPD above Captain. That would end like 200 people's $250,000 paychecks. aving us millions for more patrol officers

Any Poice Commissioner for this county is a political hack. The P/C here has no teeth, no power (other than to 'F' with his suboordinates ie: PO's). An important position such as the P/C should be elected by the people. And why not... the Sheriff is elected (and who knows what the hell he does (besides spend $$ like a drunken sailor)...the county would certainly fuction w/o him). But the strings of the P/C are pulled by the C/E and the Legislators. All they want to hear is yes to COPE and footposts.. He is merely a puppet or a figurehead.. He is a politician by proxy...You don't need any leadership skills or special abilities to become the P/C...just a willingness to be a yes man and carry the torch of whoever put u there. And a bad haircut, I might add.

COPE? I guess you haven't heard about the COPE nonsense in the 5th!! Put a female Sgt in there who called for a tow truck to change a flat on her PD. I guess she's too good to get her hands dirty. She was mouthing off since the day she got here about not staying in patrol too long cause she was too good. Well....it took her 20 years, but dammit she finally made it out of patrol LOL

Nonsense?? Hows about..."No...nobody going to COPE in the 5th.....Oh wait there's always room for 1 special one!"

A certain previously mentioned female cope Sgt. K.R. has been a Professional Piece of Shit since she got on the job. Alleged false line of duty claims, cowardice/dereliction of duty, REFUSING although required to qualify with the Shotgun even though they gave her the shortened one and just all around piss poor judgment. But hey after all she has some mild boss connections within the dept. so NOTHING will ever happen to her. Those connections and a shave tail are the only things she'll ever need to go far, just look at D.E.

Merge PD into Sheriff's Office and get rid of everyone in SCPD above Captain. That would end like 200 people's $250,000 paychecks. aving us millions for more patrol officers
Yes but then the deps would get a raise, and the overtime available for the deps would be available for scpd, you would have multiple 200k cops

[the don]

I doubt hes quitting?

[Guest 26]

I doubt hes quitting?

Agreed... Looks like the suffering will continue.

[Guest 26]

Heard it again...

Can't say where.. but it seems this Sports Plus thing has done him in.

:oops: :oops: :oops:

[SCPD PATROL 3]

I have also heard that Dormer will be leaving June/July. I heard former 4th Pct Insp Okula will replace him. i hope it's not true. Anybody hear anythng similar?

Also heard rumor that Andre Collins will replace Shannon as Dep Commish.

[Guest 26]

I have also heard that Dormer will be leaving June/July. I heard former 4th Pct Insp Okula will replace him. i hope it's not true. Anybody hear anythng similar?

Also heard rumor that Andre Collins will replace Shannon as Dep Commish.

Okula and Collins? That is just as bad as Dormer and Shannon!

Steve Levy is just an idiot. Please everyone.. lets get working on the next election to get rid of this guy.

I have also heard that Dormer will be leaving June/July. I heard former 4th Pct Insp Okula will replace him. i hope it's not true. Anybody hear anythng similar?

Also heard rumor that Andre Collins will replace Shannon as Dep Commish.

Okula and Collins? That is just as bad as Dormer and Shannon!

Steve Levy is just an idiot. Please everyone.. lets get working on the next election to get rid of this guy.
Its more like thats what levy is worrking on, haha

[Hawkshaw]

Read and skimmed over most of the previous posts and it amazed me that not one of you guys mentioned this joker's triple dipping, e.g., getting his pension and getting a consultant fee from his old employer via his NYS Private Investigator license.

NYS law forbids a working police officer from having a PI license. All retirees must first be 100% out of the PD before being granted the license. I guess Dormer is NOT a cop in the strict interpretation of the word, and therefore is allowed to have a license. I can also guess that PC Dormer NEVER participated in private business while doing his job in the public role. Oh, God forbid.

Maybe the PC should get a ruling from the DA on this small matter of conflict of interest. Mr. Spota had no problem arresting two town officials for conducting private business on company time. As PC Dormer is usually two steps to the rear and two to the right of his mentor Tom Spota, he shouldn't have a hard time finding him to get the answer.

... NYS law forbids a working police officer from having a PI license. All retirees must first be 100% out of the PD before being granted the license.

Wrong wrong wrong, poopiefacehead! Get your facts straight.

Read and skimmed over most of the previous posts and it amazed me that not one of you guys mentioned this joker's triple dipping, e.g., getting his pension and getting a consultant fee from his old employer via his NYS Private Investigator license.

NYS law forbids a working police officer from having a PI license. All retirees must first be 100% out of the PD before being granted the license. I guess Dormer is NOT a cop in the strict interpretation of the word, and therefore is allowed to have a license. I can also guess that PC Dormer NEVER participated in private business while doing his job in the public role. Oh, God forbid.

Maybe the PC should get a ruling from the DA on this small matter of conflict of interest. Mr. Spota had no problem arresting two town officials for conducting private business on company time. As PC Dormer is usually two steps to the rear and two to the right of his mentor Tom Spota, he shouldn't have a hard time finding him to get the answer.
Commisioner is a civilian post. Hes not a sworn member

[Hawkshaw]

GET YOUR FACTS RIGHT. It is agains the law for a working cop to have a PI license! However, you can have a WatchGuard License. That is not what was reported in the papers regarding Dormer.

To the other poster who said the PC job is a civilian post and therefore not subject to the law. I did try to convey that in my post but you apparentley didn't take the time to read it.

What I was saying is you can have a leader of almost 3,000 men who are forbidden to have a PI license and that person could have one himself. In any case a PC should NOT have either a Watchguard or PI license in any case. If you can't see the potential conflicts then I guess there is no point in discussing it with you. It seems you would rather take shots at people rather than get into a reasonable conversation.

GET YOUR FACTS RIGHT. It is agains the law for a working cop to have a PI license! However, you can have a WatchGuard License. That is not what was reported in the papers regarding Dormer.

To the other poster who said the PC job is a civilian post and therefore not subject to the law. I did try to convey that in my post but you apparentley didn't take the time to read it.

What I was saying is you can have a leader of almost 3,000 men who are forbidden to have a PI license and that person could have one himself. In any case a PC should NOT have either a Watchguard or PI license in any case. If you can't see the potential conflicts then I guess there is no point in discussing it with you. It seems you would rather take shots at people rather than get into a reasonable conversation.

I think we all agree here.

The PC is a civilian and may not technically be breaking any law with the PI license... However, it sends a very bad message and I think politically, he should not have it.

[Hawkshaw]

This guy seems nothing more than a Levy and Spota puppet. It sickens me to watch him taking second billing to a very ambitious DA. It sickened me to watch him take bows behind Spota when they did that thing with the Caruso kid and denegrated the Southampton PD. That a PC of another PD would take a bad shot at another PD is disgraceful. It also seems to me that Spota has his own storm troopers from the PD working for him and seem to be more loyal to him than their own boss the PC. But then again maybe Spota is the real boss and Dormer is just furniture around Suffolk County.

How a DA can go around and lock up others for running a PI business on company time and turn a blind eye to the police commissioner is baffling. The guy was getting paid from an outside source so one must assume he was doing something on somebody's time.

While it is true nobody can be expected to work 24x7 the simple truth is a PC is committed to such a schedule. HE CANNOT have a PI license and get money for a business that could be conflicted while serving as a PC. Even his liberal mentor Levy can see that.

GET YOUR FACTS RIGHT. It is agains the law for a working cop to have a PI license! However, you can have a WatchGuard License. That is not what was reported in the papers regarding Dormer.

To the other poster who said the PC job is a civilian post and therefore not subject to the law. I did try to convey that in my post but you apparentley didn't take the time to read it.

What I was saying is you can have a leader of almost 3,000 men who are forbidden to have a PI license and that person could have one himself. In any case a PC should NOT have either a Watchguard or PI license in any case. If you can't see the potential conflicts then I guess there is no point in discussing it with you. It seems you would rather take shots at people rather than get into a reasonable conversation.

I think we all agree here.

The PC is a civilian and may not technically be breaking any law with the PI license... However, it sends a very bad message and I think politically, he should not have it.
I was the one answering your post, about not being a sworn member. I read your statement, it stated, ''I guess Dormer is NOT a cop in the strict interpretation of the word, and therefore is allowed to have a license. '' The police commisioner is not a cop in any interpretation. He is a civilian, there is no authority conveyed to him at any crime scene over whomever is in charge, he cannot arrest as a Police officer, issue a summons or anything else police related. If dormer wasnt a former po he couldnt even carry a gun in public. again he isnt a sworn member. He is a civilian employee just like the guy giving me socks at quartermaster(except he can fire me)

[Hawkshaw]

I agree with your assessment 100% but it is the matter of appearance that is the issue. I think we are in agreement.

Like you said he doesn't have police powers but he sure can fire almost 3,000 police officers for cause.

BTW, you seem knowledgable on issues. Did you hear the one where the father of the rat who did all the cops a couple of years ago took a collar for fraud earlier today? This is a guy who was given enormous concessions from Rudy Giuliani to build a movie studio on Staten Island. Bloomberg came in office and he killed the deal without much fanfare. I always believed the story never took wings so as not to embarrass the Giuliani Administration.

That venture raised money from SCPD officers and their families and friends. They even had a Spota detective involved in the company as a director. Why doesn't somebody take a look into that scandal?

[baba o]

Ok , I have to ask , as a MOS, what the hell is this about? Movie studio's ? SCPD members involved? How? I never heard a peep about this before....enlighten us...

[civilservant19]

"Like you said he doesn't have police powers but he sure can fire almost 3,000 police officers for cause. "

Actually, he can't even fire a civilian "for cause". There is a civil service procedure in place which results in hearings, arbitration, and some measure of discipline other than termination.

If the employee is on probation, then the commissioner has the ability to terminate even without cause.

[Hawkshaw]

Back around 1998 a stock swindler was befriending SCPS officers and got them to invest money in a movie studio located on Staten Island. One of those cops was the cop who went to jail for using and selling steroids and cocaine.

The stock swindler raised monies from the ill fated cop as well as others in the SCPD. Some guys went in for a major investment. At least what your average cop would call major.

I would say he got around $2M from cops, families of cops, friends and others in the crowd. I am under the belief most, if not all lost their investment with the exception of one boss assigned to the DA office. Evidence suggests that officer got all or part of his investment back while others are still scraping for their money. That cop seems to have been associated with the stock swindler before his assignment in the DA Squad, but he was a detective in SCPD that.

It is my belief that the swindler did his best to entice others to invest their money in this venture that he made the cop an officer of the company known as Harbour Entertainment that morphed into Stapleton Studios that morphed into NOTHING after NYC mayor Bloomberg thought better of his predecssors judgement in loaning money and making other concessions that would give a potential investor an air of confidence.

Only thing about the swindler was that most if not all persons giving this jackal their hard earned money didn't know the swindler was waiting out a federal jail term. A term he got excused after hooking up with IAB SCPD and then the DA office and giving up the cops of SCPD, NYS Troopers, and NYPD, as well as civilians, some still awaiting trial.

If my timelines are correct it seems like the detective/investor/corporate director moved over from SCPD proper and took a supervisory position with the DA squad after serving loyally on Spota's campaign. One can assume because the new boss was one of a very few he had input into the stock swindler now turned informant would now have something to do with assisting in the investigation of the ill fated mentioned above. I mean how many bosses can there be in the DA Squad.

It is also assumed that the swindler continued to raise money from investors while he was in the charge of the DA office. The swindler first became known to the SCPD IAB on 12/24/01 and 12/25, and, of course Spota became DA on 1/1/02. I can assume that the boss, a loyal campaigner quickly came on board shortly thereafter. Fact is I heard he many have had direct control of the swindler.

So what you have is a stock swindler turned informant hooking up with one of his Board Directors in the DA office investigating corrupt cops. My, my, my, I know Suffolk County is small and people tend to bump into each other but this is smaller than one can expect.

Earlier today I heard a blip of a story that sounds like the father of the swindler ( not confirmed ) got arrested for stealing money from various artists by not paying them. The quick bio they gave fits the script of the swindler's father.

So beware my friends in SCPD should a make believe cop buff starts befriending you and getting info about you into your habits and weaknesses.

[baba o]

Oh, what a tangled web we weave........................

[Hawkshaw]

Like when one lives in a glass house, living in a tangled web can be just as destructive when one throws stones and hurts other people.

The trouble with the DA is he lives in a tangled web himself withthe many conflicts and he still throws rocks outside his web. Maybe some day his web will fall apart and this miserable little spider of a man will no longer have a home to live in.

Please note that much of what I write I honestly believe to be true and the information is right out there for all to see.

If my timelines are correct it seems like the detective/investor/corporate director moved over from SCPD proper and took a supervisory position with the DA squad after serving loyally on Spota's campaign. One can assume because the new boss was one of a very few he had input into the stock swindler now turned informant would now have something to do with assisting in the investigation of the ill fated mentioned above. I mean how many bosses can there be in the DA Squad.

It is also assumed that the swindler continued to raise money from investors while he was in the charge of the DA office. The swindler first became known to the SCPD IAB on 12/24/01 and 12/25, and, of course Spota became DA on 1/1/02. I can assume that the boss, a loyal campaigner quickly came on board shortly thereafter. Fact is I heard he many have had direct control of the swindler.


Can you give us initials of the boss in question or even his rank then or now?

[Hawkshaw]

Dear Guest, as a matter of policy I hesitate to name names when making the charges I have made. However, people like Dormer and Spota are very much public figures and are fair game.

I will tell you this: If you go on to Hoovers.com and access the SEC Edgar files ( whatever they are) and try to get some information on Harbour Entertainment you might find what you are looking for. In that document they have the officers of the company listed, including the father of the cop who went to jail. It also includes the detective as a board officer before he got rank and moved on to the DA office.

As I am not familar with the terms and assignments of SCPD I am assuming the person I mention is directly related to the DA squad. I am also under the belief that Spota uses SIU/Major Case has his personal investigators. I don't know what, if any is the difference.

Just a story about conflicts of interest. Many years ( 40? how time flies) there were two guys I knew who worked in the Manh. DA squad. I came later and we had this alumni thing so we got to know the former members too. Well these two guys were executing a warrant on a white collar criminal. Go to take the guy in and the guy tells them look fellas this is no big deal and I do have a big business deal pending with some booze I am buying thru Canada. I need a few days to finish it and I will make a lot of money. BTW, if you guys want in you can make some money too. All I need is 5K from each of you and you will be in on the deal. Now back in the early 60's 5K was a LOT of money for a cop. The two dets saw no harm. It wasn't a bribe and it was a white collar thing anyway and the guy wasn't going anywhere, so why not.
they give the guy 10K. He takes it and instead of investing it for them he goes to the DA and says, "guess what I got". Cops get dumped and demoted. Perp gets a free pass for turning in cops. worse of all they lost their money.

Relating this to today when you would expect ethics to be of a higher standard I can only wonder what the hell is going on in Suffolk County. But, then again, my experience with Suffolk PD is that they are light years behind in the ethics department. And I got another story to tell u about that going back more than 30yrs ago when the wiseguys and the homicide detectives joined forces to oust the then Da O'brien.

[Enlightened?]

http://www.sec.gov/Archives/edgar/data/1102321/0000932214-00-000089-index.html

Half way down directors/officers. The Masters and when it was obtained explains some of the other connections between that subject and another in his office.

http://www.sec.gov/Archives/edgar/data/1102321/0000932214-00-000089-index.html

Half way down directors/officers. The Masters and when it was obtained explains some of the other connections between that subject and another in his office.

I wonder if an outside employment record is on file?

http://www.sec.gov/Archives/edgar/data/1102321/0000932214-00-000089-index.html

Half way down directors/officers. The Masters and when it was obtained explains some of the other connections between that subject and another in his office.

These are DAs people in your neighborhood, in DAs neighborhood in the............. you are known by the company that you keep, if you lay down with dogs you will get up with fleas.

[Guester]

KEEP IT COMING YOU ARE RIGHT ON THE MONEY ABOUT DA.
PLENTY MORE THERE
HAVE YOU FIGURED OUT NEWSDAY CONNECTION LOVE FEST WIT DA

If my timelines are correct it seems like the detective/investor/corporate director moved over from SCPD proper and took a supervisory position with the DA squad after serving loyally on Spota's campaign. One can assume because the new boss was one of a very few he had input into the stock swindler now turned informant would now have something to do with assisting in the investigation of the ill fated mentioned above. I mean how many bosses can there be in the DA Squad.

It is also assumed that the swindler continued to raise money from investors while he was in the charge of the DA office. The swindler first became known to the SCPD IAB on 12/24/01 and 12/25, and, of course Spota became DA on 1/1/02. I can assume that the boss, a loyal campaigner quickly came on board shortly thereafter. Fact is I heard he many have had direct control of the swindler.


Can you give us initials of the boss in question or even his rank then or now?

He was then a DLT. and now a full Inspector in the DA's office

If my timelines are correct it seems like the detective/investor/corporate director moved over from SCPD proper and took a supervisory position with the DA squad after serving loyally on Spota's campaign. One can assume because the new boss was one of a very few he had input into the stock swindler now turned informant would now have something to do with assisting in the investigation of the ill fated mentioned above. I mean how many bosses can there be in the DA Squad.

It is also assumed that the swindler continued to raise money from investors while he was in the charge of the DA office. The swindler first became known to the SCPD IAB on 12/24/01 and 12/25, and, of course Spota became DA on 1/1/02. I can assume that the boss, a loyal campaigner quickly came on board shortly thereafter. Fact is I heard he many have had direct control of the swindler.


Can you give us initials of the boss in question or even his rank then or now?

He was then a DLT. and now a full Inspector in the DA's office

I think you may be wrong if you click on the above link it doesn't mention that subject of rank. Just one of the indians

If my timelines are correct it seems like the detective/investor/corporate director moved over from SCPD proper and took a supervisory position with the DA squad after serving loyally on Spota's campaign. One can assume because the new boss was one of a very few he had input into the stock swindler now turned informant would now have something to do with assisting in the investigation of the ill fated mentioned above. I mean how many bosses can there be in the DA Squad.

It is also assumed that the swindler continued to raise money from investors while he was in the charge of the DA office. The swindler first became known to the SCPD IAB on 12/24/01 and 12/25, and, of course Spota became DA on 1/1/02. I can assume that the boss, a loyal campaigner quickly came on board shortly thereafter. Fact is I heard he many have had direct control of the swindler.


Can you give us initials of the boss in question or even his rank then or now?

He was then a DLT. and now a full Inspector in the DA's office

I think you may be wrong if you click on the above link it doesn't mention that subject of rank. Just one of the indians

If I am.. my bad.. in relation to the situation being mentioned above.

However, the guy I am referring to should have been fired years ago. The fact that he is a full Inspector can only be attributed to the "Cronyism" Levy said he was going to get rid of.

[Guester]

Never mind should have been fired
How about never hired after close look at background check
How about should have been arrested when in HS
Does any one remember stone in throat
Newsday will never look at this

[Guest 26]

This topic has been too quiet.

When is this guy going to leave?

[Guest100]

Maybe it's because the zaps the posts. For sure he zapped one poster named Hawkshaw by banning from the Boards.

How does that sound for a reason

[Guest100]

One poster a while back posted some information about the cop who went to jail for steroids and coke. Took some people down with him. Another poster seemed to think the poster was trying to drum up some sympathy for the cop. Not so, but one still can feel sorry for a lost and wasted soul. The cop did it and he paid for it. But why only him and not others?

I know a lot of you SCPD know about the ranking boss who was asked to leave for cocaine abuse. This guy wasn't just a cop he was a CO of many cops. And it wasn't the first time I am told he went positive for coke. My information ( it may be wrong, I can only tell u what I heard) is that the CO was stopped by a cop and saw something she thought needed reporting. He appeared to be under the influence. At least that's what I heard. In any case he got caught for the second time and he was allowed to retire.

No big investigation by the fearless DA. No 100's of thousands of taxpayer dollars in wiretaps to catch small fish for steroids. Nothing.

Tell me something isn't wrong here.

[Frank Abignalle Jr.]

One poster a while back posted some information about the cop who went to jail for steroids and coke. Took some people down with him. Another poster seemed to think the poster was trying to drum up some sympathy for the cop. Not so, but one still can feel sorry for a lost and wasted soul. The cop did it and he paid for it. But why only him and not others?

I know a lot of you SCPD know about the ranking boss who was asked to leave for cocaine abuse. This guy wasn't just a cop he was a CO of many cops. And it wasn't the first time I am told he went positive for coke. My information ( it may be wrong, I can only tell u what I heard) is that the CO was stopped by a cop and saw something she thought needed reporting. He appeared to be under the influence. At least that's what I heard. In any case he got caught for the second time and he was allowed to retire.

No big investigation by the fearless DA. No 100's of thousands of taxpayer dollars in wiretaps to catch small fish for steroids. Nothing.

Tell me something isn't wrong here.

Do as I say not as I do. Their is a two tiered discipline system. The bosses cover for one another and then bang the cops for the same stuff they look the other way with for each other. THATS why there is so much discontent and loathing for IA and the commish. The crap a few bosses get away with would make mr. steroid dealer look like a choir boy. Lets see. There once was a boss from nantucket.......nah that isn't how it goes. How about the boss (ancient history) pretty sure he was a LT. who was running a pawn shop I think in the 3rd somehwere and was fencing stolen gold from all of the burglars. He had been melting it down without holding it the required 30 days so that the job could compare it against the property recovery sheets of stolen items taken in burglaries. He even ran out the back door of his own shop when it was raided. Did he get arrested? NOPE. Then there was the deviant DI J.A. (sounds like centerpiece) who was felony wiretapping the answering machine of a small potatoes modelling agency and calling back little girls (like 12 and 13) and asking them to do all sorts of sick perverted twisted stuff. The long and short of it, he was caught on tape by 4th CC asking one of the models to be if she enjoyed playing scat games. You know when you have someone eat a big meal and then take a laxative and take a dump on you or vice versa. The job pushed really hard and got the modelling agency to back down and not press charges (look he's a sick man, we'll fire him and he'll never do this again). So the modelling agency head went along with the lie fed to him declined to press charges. So what happened to sick boy? He was demoted to the lowly rank of LT. and was banned from taking any more promotional exams and agreed to retire when he reached his 20 yrs. Problem was he wasn't supposed to retire for a few more years. So he sat sucking on the county teat a perp in uniform.

And the list goes on and on. The more things change, the more they stay the same.

How about a certain former CO of a Pct. that straddles Islip/Brookhaven (now working out of civil service title as one of Petey McGowans faithful at MacArthur Apt.)who was covering for a certain political figures chop shop being run in his pct. Not to mention how he sucked in the poor crazy former DI/CO of Hwy. and the two of them met on Yaphank Ave to ORDER that a stolen tractor trailer being driven by the political hacks minion be let go by motor carrier safety unit. The die was cast, the fix was in and then the crazy DI barracaded himself in his office in a Pct. that is in northern brookhaven only to be given his gun back so that he could attempt to live out the motto of death before dishonor. The DI is watered three times a day and pointed towards the sun. The first cops, bosses, detectives in a certain southern brookhaven pct. who read the tell all this is where all of the skeletons are buried suicide note have learned that they were mistaken and that they really didn't read a note after all since of course the note has somehow VANISHED into thin air.

Test gate, that was a good one. Half of the upper echelon bosses on the job at the time either had copies of the entrance exam or were being paid extra on job time to teach the test prep course of a certain someone who had previosly been in IA where he had originally obtained a copy of the open competitive entrance exam for PO while originally investigating a bosses kid who when asked on the poly if he had been given the answers to the test stated that he had and that his father the boss had given them to him. Can't bang a guy for being honest about cheating. He's still on the job no doubt a boss himself now.

Explain this to me how does someone who nearly fails the 88 open competitive exam which is a biographical inventory miraculously become number one on the 92 exam. You can't change your background, but you can sure get the answers from daddy and bone up on them to do it. I would guess that if you looked into the scores of those exams you would see a striking trend of bosses kids miraculously scoring shitty in 88 and then stellar in 92. Then compare how those same bosses kids have done on Sgt. exams.

Then there is the time that a certain CSA promotional program had a certain boss in HQ reading the answers to the special group the day before the open competitive exam. Coupled with how a certain U-boat commanding former Inspector (see airport info above) encouraged a certain now convicted in test gate former Sgt. to give his we have the test, we'll read the questions to you for a fee test prep course to a now defunct program that gave free educations at SCCC, part time jobs in the pct. and the opportunity to have the open competitive exam used as a promotional exam. That certain former boss convinced that other now convicted boss that it was politically correct to assist the special class of individuals and allow them to sit in on his test prep program for free. Hey did I mention that the now defunct special program was declared clearly discriminatory by the courts and that they paid out about a half million dollars a piece to certain persons who were excluded from the special program because of the color of their skin. But hey what the heck whats 10 or 15 million dollars paid out to look politically correct, especially when it's not your money it's the money of the stupid taxpayers.

Why is it that the suffolk bosses past and present are such sacred cows in the eyes of the FBI? Oh thats right thats because the most of the biggest criminal boss offenders are graduates of the FBI National Academy Associate program. So if the Feebs did their job they would have to take a black eye via the guilt by association theory.

As much as things change, they stay the same. All of Stevies and Dickies smoke and mirrors haven't changed a thing. The only difference is they think that the people they have promoted for loyalty to their campaigns are any better than the previous bumper crop of political hacks. Yawn, nothing ever changes so why bother.

[Guest100]

Dear Frank A.

Excuse me for being a bit dimwitted but I am still trying to figure out why you used the name of Abingale?
What is the meaning behind it all?

You certainly didn't mince any words. You sound like you most definitely know what you speak of.

Speaking of the guy who had the test. I knew his dad. The son got demoted from a DI to a sergeant, but that was under a different regime in the DA's office. The guy also fell on the sword and owned up to it. So I guess they had no choice.

One poster went so far as to say on another thread that he knew of a guy who spoke to a guy who did polys for the PD for applicants and how the guy was ordered to fail legitimate candidates so they could get to their relatives and friends. As quick as that topic was posted it was deleted! There was some indication that the Police Issues Board has been given over to the IA and DA for monitoring and editing. Sounds incredible to me but one had to wonder why such hot issues are deleted without first a challange to the poster?

[Guest100]

Dear Frank: When I read your post I decided to print it out. I feel like I am Jack Bauer in 24 or Michael Douglas in Full Disclosure or what's his name in A Clear and Present Danger when they start printing out information before the information gets deleted.

Dear Frank A.

Excuse me for being a bit dimwitted but I am still trying to figure out why you used the name of Abingale?
What is the meaning behind it all?

You certainly didn't mince any words. You sound like you most definitely know what you speak of.

Speaking of the guy who had the test. I knew his dad. The son got demoted from a DI to a sergeant, but that was under a different regime in the DA's office. The guy also fell on the sword and owned up to it. So I guess they had no choice.

One poster went so far as to say on another thread that he knew of a guy who spoke to a guy who did polys for the PD for applicants and how the guy was ordered to fail legitimate candidates so they could get to their relatives and friends. As quick as that topic was posted it was deleted! There was some indication that the Police Issues Board has been given over to the IA and DA for monitoring and editing. Sounds incredible to me but one had to wonder why such hot issues are deleted without first a challange to the poster?

I'll give you a hint Leonardo DiCaprio played a person with a similar name in a movie not too long ago.

[Guest100]

I know who Abingale is and the movie with DeCaprio. I was just wondering why you used the name with the post?

I mean FA Jr is basically a liar and con man. Did you post a message and then try to say it's all a farce because you are a liar?

That wasn't my take of it, but I am still curious about the hidden message, if any that you decided to use. That is unless you are Frank Abingale Jr in the flesh.

I know who Abingale is and the movie with DeCaprio. I was just wondering why you used the name with the post?

I mean FA Jr is basically a liar and con man. Did you post a message and then try to say it's all a farce because you are a liar?

That wasn't my take of it, but I am still curious about the hidden message, if any that you decided to use. That is unless you are Frank Abingale Jr in the flesh.

Jeesh, I guess it was too subtle. Maybe someone didn't want to impersonate FA Jr. The title of the movie was "Catch me if you can" basically an arrogant taunt.

[Guest100]

Was that directed at me????? Why, I agree 100 % with your posting. Not that i necessarily agree the 'facts' because i don't know the facts myself. But it was interesting and it didn't surprise me one bit.

Care to clarify?

[Guest100]

Talking with a guy today and told me an UNCONFIRMED story that a certain high ranking and influential not only had a IA file that woudl choke a horse, it was said he was investigated for having sex with his child's 15 yr old babysitter. True, not true, I still have a problem believing a guy can be charged with so much still can be in a position of inlfuence and rank and nothing is done about it. What a F.....d up PD SC is, if your posts, and the many other posts are true.

HBO has been doing a series on Suffolk County. The call it DEADWOOD and it is a picture of what SC seems to be if it was in the old days.

Was that directed at me????? Why, I agree 100 % with your posting. Not that i necessarily agree the 'facts' because i don't know the facts myself. But it was interesting and it didn't surprise me one bit.

Care to clarify?

I have a pretty good idea of your background based on some of your previous postings ala Hawkshaw. No the taunt wasn't directed at you.

[Guest100]

Thanx for the reply. Yup, you caught me with my other screen name. Hawkshaw is what they called detectives at the turn of the century.........I mean the 20th Century.

Not a matter of deception on my part changing names. The Webmaster banned me from the Board without explanation. At least I think it was him. Who knows with these computers. Not that I really gave a fat rat's ass but it did annoy me that the Board would give one the idea it was a free and open exchange of ideas and then you get booted.

I write this post knowing it may be cause to get zapped again. The Board is interesting and I like to come in and read what others have to say and drop an opinion or two.

The only reason I came back is because I could. Like a famous comedian once said: I wouldn't want to belong to any club that would have me.

BTW, you didn't actually accuse me of being a stealth bomber by posting under a different name. Maybe you felt that way.....maybe you didn't.

Thanx for the reply. Yup, you caught me with my other screen name. Hawkshaw is what they called detectives at the turn of the century.........I mean the 20th Century.

Not a matter of deception on my part changing names. The Webmaster banned me from the Board without explanation. At least I think it was him. Who knows with these computers. Not that I really gave a fat rat's ass but it did annoy me that the Board would give one the idea it was a free and open exchange of ideas and then you get booted.

I write this post knowing it may be cause to get zapped again. The Board is interesting and I like to come in and read what others have to say and drop an opinion or two.

The only reason I came back is because I could. Like a famous comedian once said: I wouldn't want to belong to any club that would have me.

BTW, you didn't actually accuse me of being a stealth bomber by posting under a different name. Maybe you felt that way.....maybe you didn't.

Don't sweat it if you get banned by the administrator. Once your ip address changes (usually every couple of days) you will be back on. I wasn't accusing you of changing screen names, I know all too well why it is necessary.

[GUEST100]

Who is that masked man Frank Abingalle Jr. Thanx for the reply. I really didn't think you took a shot at me. We seem to be on the same page. I checked some of those situations you posted and was told they aren't 100% accurate. But with the resources most of us have it is understandable. Right church but may be in the wrong pew. But you can still hear the Mass.

I am currently involved in a situation with the HeadNazi and his Secret Police. With all apologies to Hitler, Himmler, and Eichman. These guys are unreal.

There was a 'big case' spoken about on a previous posting. I think it was you who referred to this case by calling one of the subject's of my post 'steroid boy' and how he paled in comparision to some of the people in higher places in the PD.

In this case all but two defendants pled out to the overwhelming pressure exerted by the DA. Innocent? Guilty? I don't know. I am sure some were innocent. Some weren't as guilty as charged. One recently concluded a trial for 1A Misd and 2B Misd. He beat the A, and I think 1 B and was hung on the other. I hear it was 10-2 for acquittal. Adolph wants to try him again and make sure he ruins his life. The other guy I am told that after having the felony counts thrown out by a judge has only 2 Misd. left. All that after the Gestapo logged in over 9,000 of the guy's phone calls. I am told he also was offered a no jail plea and told Adolph in so many words to go Phuck himself.

The onslaught continues. I don't work for this guy but I work for another poor soul who got indicted big time ( if you are a scpd cop u would know the story) because he didn't or couldn't give Adolph what he wanted to hear on the guy. He now has his turn in the barrel.

Adolph began firing up his Panzer tanks and sent them into the field to develop information that he hopes will lead the Phuck You defendant to other crimes committed and admitted to by serial criminals in Suffolk County. From what I have been able to glean from what I hear that when the SS questions victims of crimes, some of them are asked certain information that hopefully for Adolph will connect the criminals to Phuck You. While the good citizens think what a marvelous and relentless police force we have that will pursue crimes against my property, and in some cases my person, what it really is about is they don't give a sh-t about the victims at all. They will do almost anything, including inducing the three criminals to tell lies on top of lies on top of lies against an innocent person.

Hundreds of thousands, if not millions have been spent, and more will be spent to satisfy the evil on one man who sits in the most powerful office in Suffolk County.

[Guest100]

I have been told the SS wants this guy so bad that many detectives are on notice that when a prisoner who is brought in who remotely can know the phuck u defendant, that the defendant is asked what he knows about the individual.

Hard ball is one thing BUT this is way over the line.

I have been told the SS wants this guy so bad that many detectives are on notice that when a prisoner who is brought in who remotely can know the phuck u defendant, that the defendant is asked what he knows about the individual.

Hard ball is one thing BUT this is way over the line.

You won't get them, but just for giggles FOIL certain peoples IA files. They will tell you that it is their policy not to release the files. They usually aren't even smart enough to cite one of the legal exemptions. You won't get the information, but it will just show a pattern that may be of assistance to you later. I can neither confirm nor deny, but you might find things like unlawful imprisonment and assault of a prostitute in an attempt to ascertain if she had burglarized a certain someones home shortly after being brought back their for some fun. Another certain someone might have lied to IA about fixing tickets etc. even when the information came from the FBI.

Is there any truth to the rumor that an assistant to the commish was caught up at Bald Hill with a significant other and that is why his wife left him?

[Guest100]

Assuming GUEST is FRANK A. WOW! you know or seem to know your sh@t. I am sure some of the stuff you cite is not readily confirmable. But there is so much of it that some of it has to be true.

My posts are out of frustration. I do plug on though. Putting my remarks on this Board may not be as silly as it seems. You put this stuff out there and sooner or later you may find a pearl in the ocean.

I'm interviewing some folks now that if you ask me why I am doing it I can't tell you. I feel if you shake enough trees something can fall out. It's better than doing nothing and getting nothing.

Even posting is a form of shaking the trees. I'm not kidding myself about being exposed to those who may be concerned about the posts. They have the means to identify me. And believe me they are small enough to do it.

Don't get me wrong when I criticize and call them names. I do want my police and DA to be vigilant. Even zealous to a point. But when you are reckless and destructive in your quest for what you call justice and spend tons of money on BS because you think you are bringing down a master criminal then you better take a breath and check in with yourself.

[FinAmazing]

Someone posted information about the IA files and possible offenses in certain peoples jackets and now the entire thread is deleted. Proof that a certain someone is having his strings pulled by IA/DA.

[cleaned up message board]

Thanks for cleaning up the trash, adolf putzman etc.
Glad to see you read my email about editing some of the trash posting here.

[Guest100]

FINAMAZING u suggested there was a post about a certain individual's IA file being wiped off. I think you are wrong. The message u suggest about filing a FOIL just for giggles is still there only a couple back.

FINAMAZING u suggested there was a post about a certain individual's IA file being wiped off. I think you are wrong. The message u suggest about filing a FOIL just for giggles is still there only a couple back.

Yeah, but the fuchman thread with the tell all about a bunch of skeletons is gone.