FALLING SHORT ON LI

Why are so many schools falling short of the state requirments as seen in Newsday today ? Is it the students, parents, or the teachers that are the problem?

In fairness we should study the results statewide. If they reflect the same concerns that we have with the Long Island results, the tests might themselves be flawed. However, if they show consistency regarding acceptable upstate scores, we must pay greater attention to the dishonest ineffective ways our districts are run.

It seems that the majority of the schools on the list are from lower income areas. What is the problem with the schools there? Do they get less funding, less qualified teachers, or is it the community?

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[Wildcat For 5 Decades]

It seems that the majority of the schools on the list are from lower income areas. What is the problem with the schools there? Do they get less funding, less qualified teachers, or is it the community?

My parents moved here ( South Huntington School District )in the mid 1960's. Their main reason was for a better school district to educate their kids in a safe environment.

That was why many parents with young children in the 1960's and 1970's and 1980's moved to Huntington.

In the 1990's something radically changed. Our building codes in many areas of town were no longer being enforced. Illegal dwellings were multiplying by the day. Foreigners in the country illegally were filling up many low income housing sites throughout several school districts. Slumlords became mighty rich and powerful.
Corruption brought to the attention to government officials by both average citizens and school district personnel were largely ignored by town, county state and federal governments.

It now was no longer possible to have your zoning laws enforced if you lived in Huntington Station or even in parts of Huntington and South Huntington. East Northport Greenlawn Melville Half Hollow Hills and Centerport also had these problems but not as severe.
If you asked government to enforce a housing violation citizens were called racists even though race played no part in it.

Meanwhile several Huntington school districts did investigations and found out that many people were being steered into their school districts by downzoning and illegal and legal immigration. Lack of enforcement of zoning laws. Plus the town was placing all the towns poor people into only two school districts and not spreading the burden to other more wealthier districts. The elitists who always cry out for diversity and affordable housing were always those who lived in secluded areas of town.

This slide will only get worse until the public demands that every school district is treated equally and fairly. That all the burden of educating immigrants and illegal aliens should not fall on only one or two school districts. That the poor who need housing are not placed into areas that can least support them. Every community must bear this burden.

[Wildcat booster]

Bravo! I could not have said it any finer. Perhaps a change in Town Hall as well as Weston St. is in order this coming year.....

[General Gelding]

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[Ill Eagle]

"This slide will only get worse until the public demands that every school district is treated equally and fairly. That all the burden of educating immigrants and illegal aliens should not fall on only one or two school districts. That the poor who need housing are not placed into areas that can least support them. Every community must bear this burden."
Get it right: the burden of educating illegal aliens belongs to whatever country they illegally came from. As far as legal immigrants, as long as you speak English you should enjoy the benefits of public education; don't hold back the progress of students just because you decide that this country owes you a favor. It doesn't. Do you think if an American family moved to El Salvador and put their 5 year old kid in public school that the whole system would slow to a crawl until the kid was able to speak Spanish? Not. What you would end up with is a 15 year old first grader. If you're an immigrant, American citizenship is a privilege not a right. One more point: remember that anyone born in this country is automatically an American citizen. That law should be changed to those born to legal American citizens.

[Wildcat for 5 Decades]

"This slide will only get worse until the public demands that every school district is treated equally and fairly. That all the burden of educating immigrants and illegal aliens should not fall on only one or two school districts. That the poor who need housing are not placed into areas that can least support them. Every community must bear this burden."
Get it right: the burden of educating illegal aliens belongs to whatever country they illegally came from. As far as legal immigrants, as long as you speak English you should enjoy the benefits of public education; don't hold back the progress of students just because you decide that this country owes you a favor. It doesn't. Do you think if an American family moved to El Salvador and put their 5 year old kid in public school that the whole system would slow to a crawl until the kid was able to speak Spanish? Not. What you would end up with is a 15 year old first grader. If you're an immigrant, American citizenship is a privilege not a right. One more point: remember that anyone born in this country is automatically an American citizen. That law should be changed to those born to legal American citizens.

I agree with a lot of the things you mention. But until the system corrects itself it's not fair what the local governments are doing to the South Huntington and Huntington school districts.

I agree with all the post here, but there has to be other reasons why these schools are not up to par. What can the educators do to help curb the problem?

[talk is cheap]

I agree with all the post here, but there has to be other reasons why these schools are not up to par. What can the educators do to help curb the problem?

Educators which would include teachers and administrators have to better understand the ramifications
of what town and state governments are doing to the surrounding communities.

Because of housing policies that changed dramatically in Huntington in 1991 the town has experienced the greatest number of dwellings erected without getting any extra tax revenue from them except for the garbage collectors. They get their fair share of tax money the schools and police and library etc don't.

In Huntington they do collect fees and fines on accessory apartments that they try and legalize but the money goes into a general fund which the public knows little about. The money is used for the town's internal bureaucracy and the taxpayer never sees it.

With housing laws not enforced or at best selectively illegal dwellings have multiplied as have the population of immigrants both legal and illegal into the area. All of this puts great strain on a school district because the tax base is actually shrinking while the needs of the community are increasing.

Who wins in a situation like this: well it's not the taxpayer who owns a home and doesn't rent and it certainly isn't the school districts who have to rely on getting their money from the already strapped homeowner who doesn't rent any part of his single family one dwelling house.

The town makes lots of money from this. So to all the real estate brokers who just love houses that are used as rentals. The slumlords love it cause they can buy up hundreds of houses per slumlord take in HUD money ( your tax money ) still rent to other tenants and make a totally obscene profit. And their taxes are low low low.

[always li]

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I agree with all the post here, but there has to be other reasons why these schools are not up to par. What can the educators do to help curb the problem?

Educators which would include teachers and administrators have to better understand the ramifications
of what town and state governments are doing to the surrounding communities.

Because of housing policies that changed dramatically in Huntington in 1991 the town has experienced the greatest number of dwellings erected without getting any extra tax revenue from them except for the garbage collectors. They get their fair share of tax money the schools and police and library etc don't.

In Huntington they do collect fees and fines on accessory apartments that they try and legalize but the money goes into a general fund which the public knows little about. The money is used for the town's internal bureaucracy and the taxpayer never sees it.

With housing laws not enforced or at best selectively illegal dwellings have multiplied as have the population of immigrants both legal and illegal into the area. All of this puts great strain on a school district because the tax base is actually shrinking while the needs of the community are increasing.

Who wins in a situation like this: well it's not the taxpayer who owns a home and doesn't rent and it certainly isn't the school districts who have to rely on getting their money from the already strapped homeowner who doesn't rent any part of his single family one dwelling house.

The town makes lots of money from this. So to all the real estate brokers who just love houses that are used as rentals. The slumlords love it cause they can buy up hundreds of houses per slumlord take in HUD money ( your tax money ) still rent to other tenants and make a totally obscene profit. And their taxes are low low low.

This guy or gal has hit the nail right on it's head. Why hasn't there been an outcry among school districts and the PTA's on this matter?

[silence is deafening]

silence in this case is Not Golden but is Deafening

[fedup to here]

I agree with all the post here, but there has to be other reasons why these schools are not up to par. What can the educators do to help curb the problem?

Educators which would include teachers and administrators have to better understand the ramifications
of what town and state governments are doing to the surrounding communities.

Because of housing policies that changed dramatically in Huntington in 1991 the town has experienced the greatest number of dwellings erected without getting any extra tax revenue from them except for the garbage collectors. They get their fair share of tax money the schools and police and library etc don't.

In Huntington they do collect fees and fines on accessory apartments that they try and legalize but the money goes into a general fund which the public knows little about. The money is used for the town's internal bureaucracy and the taxpayer never sees it.

With housing laws not enforced or at best selectively illegal dwellings have multiplied as have the population of immigrants both legal and illegal into the area. All of this puts great strain on a school district because the tax base is actually shrinking while the needs of the community are increasing.

Who wins in a situation like this: well it's not the taxpayer who owns a home and doesn't rent and it certainly isn't the school districts who have to rely on getting their money from the already strapped homeowner who doesn't rent any part of his single family one dwelling house.

The town makes lots of money from this. So to all the real estate brokers who just love houses that are used as rentals. The slumlords love it cause they can buy up hundreds of houses per slumlord take in HUD money ( your tax money ) still rent to other tenants and make a totally obscene profit. And their taxes are low low low.

This guy or gal has hit the nail right on it's head. Why hasn't there been an outcry among school districts and the PTA's on this matter?


cause they are part of the corrupt political system that foments these injustices

wait until housing help gets their project finally put up

educators and their unions are in the back pocket of liberal democrats who back higher densification of housing to help the poor--whether they come from Huntington or not

Housing Helps ---At least 70% of their Elwood road project residents will originate from outside Huntington

why couldn't it at least be for the citizens of this town who live here and pay taxes here????????????

[housing help foe]

cause housing help excepts aide from state which dictates they house people from other areas outside Huntington in Huntington

what do the people at housing help care about what that does to the people who live here in Huntington

there top people live outside the town

[mikey023]

yep