Financial Disclosure

[EthicsProbe]

How can one obtain copies of the financial disclosure forms completed by Nassau County employees required by local law?

[Unregistered Guest]

How can one obtain copies of the financial disclosure forms completed by Nassau County employees required by local law?

FOIL

[Unregistered2345]

I didn’t even know that county employees were required to file a financial disclosure, that is usually reserved for managers or someone who is a reviewer/decision maker for a contract.

I would expect that it would be governed by the privacy act and not subject to FOIL. Only the direct manager or counsel would normally have access to that information.

[Unregistered Guest]

I would expect that it would be governed by the privacy act and not subject to FOIL.

You expect wrong. Privacy Act? Citation, please. Where'd you dream that one up? Sometimes redacted, but

FOIL.

[Unregistered234]

You expect wrong. Privacy Act? Citation, please. Where'd you dream that one up? Sometimes redacted, but

FOIL.

They would only provide the general nature of their holdings directly related to their position. They would not provide the financial disclosure verbatim. I would hope the disclosure would come up blank since if they did have a conflict they would need to either remove the conflict or themselves but younever know in Nassau County.


2. (a) The committee on open government may promulgate guidelines regarding deletion of identifying details or withholding of records otherwise available under this article to prevent unwarranted invasions of personal privacy. In the absence of such guidelines, an agency may delete identifying details when it makes records available.
(b) An unwarranted invasion of personal privacy includes, but shall not be limited to:

i. disclosure of employment, medical or credit histories or personal references of applicants for employment;
ii. disclosure of items involving the medical or personal records of a client or patient in a medical facility;
iii. sale or release of lists of names and addresses if such lists would be used for solicitation or fund-raising purposes;
iv. disclosure of information of a personal nature when disclosure would result in economic or personal hardship to the subject party and such information is not relevant to the work of the agency requesting or maintaining it;
v. disclosure of information of a personal nature reported in confidence to an agency and not relevant to the ordinary work of such agency; or
vi. information of a personal nature contained in a workers' compensation record, except as provided by section one hundred ten-a of the workers' compensation law.
(c) Unless otherwise provided by this article, disclosure shall not be construed to constitute an unwarranted invasion of personal privacy pursuant to paragraphs (a) and (b) of this subdivision

[Unregistered2345]

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2. (a) The committee on open government may promulgate guidelines regarding deletion of identifying details or withholding of records otherwise available under this article to prevent unwarranted invasions of personal privacy. In the absence of such guidelines, an agency may delete identifying details when it makes records available.
(b) An unwarranted invasion of personal privacy includes, but shall not be limited to:

i. disclosure of employment, medical or credit histories or personal references of applicants for employment;
ii. disclosure of items involving the medical or personal records of a client or patient in a medical facility;
iii. sale or release of lists of names and addresses if such lists would be used for solicitation or fund-raising purposes;
iv. disclosure of information of a personal nature when disclosure would result in economic or personal hardship to the subject party and such information is not relevant to the work of the agency requesting or maintaining it;
v. disclosure of information of a personal nature reported in confidence to an agency and not relevant to the ordinary work of such agency; or
vi. information of a personal nature contained in a workers' compensation record, except as provided by section one hundred ten-a of the workers' compensation law.
(c) Unless otherwise provided by this article, disclosure shall not be construed to constitute an unwarranted invasion of personal privacy pursuant to paragraphs (a) and (b) of this subdivision:

i. when identifying details are deleted;
ii. when the person to whom a record pertains consents in writing to disclosure;
iii. when upon presenting reasonable proof of identity' a person seeks access to records pertaining to him or her; or
iv. when a record or group of records relates to the right, title or interest in real property, or relates to the inventory, status or characteristics of real property, in which case disclosure and providing copies of such record or group of records shall not be deemed an unwarranted invasion of personal privacy.


2-a. Nothing in this article shall permit disclosure which constitutes an unwarranted invasion of personal privacy as defined in subdivision two of this section if such disclosure is prohibited under section ninety-six of this chapter.

Link to section 96 below.

http://www.dos.state.ny.us/coog/actualpppl.html#s96a

[Unregrealanswer]

oy vey. all elected officials and most appointees must file a financial disclosure form in Nassau County. The forms are distributed by the Commissioner of Investigations. the ethics board plays a role. The forms are sent out, completed, returned and shoved in a filing cabinet unless someone requests to view them. They can be viewed but are not copied and mailed (which is done with FOIL). Call the office of the Commissioner of Investigations and/or the Ethics board for info. You also can call Mangano's office or the County attorney's office and they will point you in the right direction. Its not rocket science, its not cloak and dagger. Keep in mind, many of the answers, such as outside income, are done in a range. The reports are more important for whats not on them. Failing to list an asset or additional income is a big no no. Otherwise, they don't really shed much light on anything.

[SunshineTime]

oy vey. all elected officials and most appointees must file a financial disclosure form in Nassau County. The forms are distributed by the Commissioner of Investigations. the ethics board plays a role. The forms are sent out, completed, returned and shoved in a filing cabinet unless someone requests to view them. They can be viewed but are not copied and mailed (which is done with FOIL). Call the office of the Commissioner of Investigations and/or the Ethics board for info. You also can call Mangano's office or the County attorney's office and they will point you in the right direction. Its not rocket science, its not cloak and dagger. Keep in mind, many of the answers, such as outside income, are done in a range. The reports are more important for whats not on them. Failing to list an asset or additional income is a big no no. Otherwise, they don't really shed much light on anything.

We are very concerned about what might be missing from a certain employees report. We understand that it also must include assets of family members (spouse, kids) What is the penalty for not disclosing?

[u r stupid]

Bonnie Garone is soooooooooooo lucky that requesters didn't bring an Article 78 against the County when she redacted income information about certain appointees who had lucrative consulting practices in addition to appointments. There is no reasonable expectation in privacy under the Public Officer Law with respect to income earned.

An official's salary is public information. So too should be a rough estimate of the income they earn through side jobs. The question is transparency and accountability. Could an appointee be 'conflicted' by some source of outside income? Why even maintain these records for public review if some government hack only redacts it? It sort of defeats the reporting purpose.

I wonder if the County and Ms. Garone followed the FOIL law and offered a clear explanation for redacting these records, if Garone's denials set for a path for perfecting an appeal (obtaining a final agency determination), or if requesters were informed of their right to bring an action in Supreme Court to compel appropriate disclosure.

The employment records exemptionn from public disclosure involves protecting information about an employee's personnel file. It does not apply here because while there is an expectation in privacy regarding your social security number, your credit history, your job references, aspects of your performance evaluation, and the like, there is no expectation of privacy for a government official regarding income, be it from government employment or side jobs.








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2. (a) The committee on open government may promulgate guidelines regarding deletion of identifying details or withholding of records otherwise available under this article to prevent unwarranted invasions of personal privacy. In the absence of such guidelines, an agency may delete identifying details when it makes records available.
(b) An unwarranted invasion of personal privacy includes, but shall not be limited to:

i. disclosure of employment, medical or credit histories or personal references of applicants for employment;
ii. disclosure of items involving the medical or personal records of a client or patient in a medical facility;
iii. sale or release of lists of names and addresses if such lists would be used for solicitation or fund-raising purposes;
iv. disclosure of information of a personal nature when disclosure would result in economic or personal hardship to the subject party and such information is not relevant to the work of the agency requesting or maintaining it;
v. disclosure of information of a personal nature reported in confidence to an agency and not relevant to the ordinary work of such agency; or
vi. information of a personal nature contained in a workers' compensation record, except as provided by section one hundred ten-a of the workers' compensation law.
(c) Unless otherwise provided by this article, disclosure shall not be construed to constitute an unwarranted invasion of personal privacy pursuant to paragraphs (a) and (b) of this subdivision:

i. when identifying details are deleted;
ii. when the person to whom a record pertains consents in writing to disclosure;
iii. when upon presenting reasonable proof of identity' a person seeks access to records pertaining to him or her; or
iv. when a record or group of records relates to the right, title or interest in real property, or relates to the inventory, status or characteristics of real property, in which case disclosure and providing copies of such record or group of records shall not be deemed an unwarranted invasion of personal privacy.


2-a. Nothing in this article shall permit disclosure which constitutes an unwarranted invasion of personal privacy as defined in subdivision two of this section if such disclosure is prohibited under section ninety-six of this chapter.

Link to section 96 below.

http://www.dos.state.ny.us/coog/actualpppl.html#s96a

[Mr. Reynolds]

oy vey. all elected officials and most appointees must file a financial disclosure form in Nassau County. The forms are distributed by the Commissioner of Investigations. the ethics board plays a role. The forms are sent out, completed, returned and shoved in a filing cabinet unless someone requests to view them. They can be viewed but are not copied and mailed (which is done with FOIL). Call the office of the Commissioner of Investigations and/or the Ethics board for info. You also can call Mangano's office or the County attorney's office and they will point you in the right direction. Its not rocket science, its not cloak and dagger. Keep in mind, many of the answers, such as outside income, are done in a range. The reports are more important for whats not on them. Failing to list an asset or additional income is a big no no. Otherwise, they don't really shed much light on anything.

The County requires certain specific titles AND all employees who are in a policy making; decision making; advisory to Commissioner; or other significant position that would result on who is retained, hired, chosen as a vendor and similar situations.

The financial filings, you are correct, do list assets in ranges and DO NOT specifically detail holdings.

As for what the form doesn't show? Well, if it doesn't show it, the only way you could make a case would be if you knew something that should have been listed and was not.

Also, what about those who declare financial interests and then publicly deny any involvement in the source of that interest?

If you need an example to put that question into context, use the case of Ed Mangano vs. IRS. In this case, a printing company reportedly owes the IRS nearly $1 million in back taxes. Ed Mangano denied being part of the business when the story broke - DESPITE the fact that he declared otherwise on BOTH his 1040 returns and ETHICS and FINANCIAL DISCLOSURE forms.

[56ybi]

The County requires certain specific titles AND all employees who are in a policy making; decision making; advisory to Commissioner; or other significant position that would result on who is retained, hired, chosen as a vendor and similar situations.

The financial filings, you are correct, do list assets in ranges and DO NOT specifically detail holdings.

As for what the form doesn't show? Well, if it doesn't show it, the only way you could make a case would be if you knew something that should have been listed and was not.

Also, what about those who declare financial interests and then publicly deny any involvement in the source of that interest?

If you need an example to put that question into context, use the case of Ed Mangano vs. IRS. In this case, a printing company reportedly owes the IRS nearly $1 million in back taxes. Ed Mangano denied being part of the business when the story broke - DESPITE the fact that he declared otherwise on BOTH his 1040 returns and ETHICS and FINANCIAL DISCLOSURE forms.

are 1040's foilable?

[Unregistered Guest]

are 1040's foilable?

If you have to ask, then you really ought to concern yourself with other matters.

[only arrogant]

Questions?

Don't they show you are not an insider?

The latest appointment of the son of the Roslyn accountant who gave Ciampoli a letter confirming that he is all paid up and not really a deadbeat was given a contract to advise on County ethics.

For Republicans what good is an accountant or an ethics expert if they can't cover up for the big shots?

The powerful have a humor all their own. But aren't they famous for laughing at the regular person while they do their insider 'trading'?