Tisch Has Lost Control of His Department

working 4 years without a contract has put a strain on the pres., he needs to raise the dues so he can increase his $10,000 stipend........Oh that's right the job isn't about O.T.!!!!!
Well then no O.T. no Stipend for the union board
Now that there is no O.T the Pres is the highest paid officer

===base pay + $20,000 stipend, free car use & gas, free cellphone, etc
name one C/O doing better than him??

Nice try Gary you mongoloid.

===base pay + $20,000 stipend, free car use & gas, free cellphone


is this true?

who cares if it is true, look at the pba and the stipend they get, pay our leaders more and they will fight, if not they get corrupted by back room deals. Let's wait and see until after the arbitration. Then talk about stipends and union expenses

===base pay + $20,000 stipend, free car use & gas, free cellphone


is this true?

If you are a CO and you want to know I suggest you attend a union meeting or take the short drive from the jail to the office and ask. Of course you could be just like the rest of the lazy slobs and not do either and just complain why you don't get information.

Hint; Everyone in the union receives a copy of the annual budget, take a little time and get aquainted with information you already have.

===base pay + $20,000 stipend, free car use & gas, free cellphone


is this true?

If you are a CO and you want to know I suggest you attend a union meeting or take the short drive from the jail to the office and ask. Of course you could be just like the rest of the lazy slobs and not do either and just complain why you don't get information.

Hint; Everyone in the union receives a copy of the annual budget, take a little time and get aquainted with information you already have.

The annual budget is not what is actually spent you jerkoff. How can anyone defend this board?
How can you compare Vito to the PBA? They have never screwed up as bad as Vito. When is the last time Vito put us on the winning side of an issue that counted? Vito did not have the balls not to follow the PBA when they went against Levy. Vito took the whole load from Tisch and those morons. Now he is picking fights with DeMarco for no reason.
Vito should be forced to give up his stipend till we get a contract. Maybe if he felt our pain he would be more motivated to get us a contract.

working 4 years without a contract has put a strain on the pres., he needs to raise the dues so he can increase his $10,000 stipend........Oh that's right the job isn't about O.T.!!!!!
Well then no O.T. no Stipend for the union board
Now that there is no O.T the Pres is the highest paid officer

===base pay + $20,000 stipend, free car use & gas, free cellphone, etc
name one C/O doing better than him??

Nice try Gary you mongoloid.


Why would you put someones name on here unless you know for sure who it is. Do you know for a fact that whoever wrote that was a person named Gary? I don't think you do and if so prove it or stop accussng people on here of doing something you don't know they did. By the way which one were you referring to anyway. MORON.

Didn't you know - anyone who says anything against the union or Vito is automatically named "Gary". It's a rule or something? Really though, those idiots sound like Democrats - if you don't fall in step behind them in line then you are a schmuck - right? WRONG! There are a hell of a lot of guys who don't trust the union, don't like Vito or other board members - BUT - it seems anyone who would be able to beat Vito or the other board members don't want to run against them or don't get involved at all. So instead we get the Gary's who run and get a smack down instead.

Didn't you know - anyone who says anything against the union or Vito is automatically named "Gary". It's a rule or something? Really though, those idiots sound like Democrats - if you don't fall in step behind them in line then you are a schmuck - right? WRONG! There are a hell of a lot of guys who don't trust the union, don't like Vito or other board members - BUT - it seems anyone who would be able to beat Vito or the other board members don't want to run against them or don't get involved at all. So instead we get the Gary's who run and get a smack down instead.


Go to the meeting on Tuesday. See who has BALLS then

Didn't you know - anyone who says anything against the union or Vito is automatically named "Gary". It's a rule or something? Really though, those idiots sound like Democrats - if you don't fall in step behind them in line then you are a schmuck - right? WRONG! There are a hell of a lot of guys who don't trust the union, don't like Vito or other board members - BUT - it seems anyone who would be able to beat Vito or the other board members don't want to run against them or don't get involved at all. So instead we get the Gary's who run and get a smack down instead.

So true, so true and I give praise to those guys for at least attempting to run and win. It;s a shame that all of us are too stupid to elect someone other then those who abuse OUR monies. However Thank yuo from me to those who try to run and make a difference.

Well, well,

Went to the Union meeting. Saw plenty of guys (and gals) who had balls enough to ask questions. Also saw a president get waaayyy to defensive and watched him leave the meeting in the middle! Left the meeting in a huff like a big baby, he did. His problems are all caused by his own actions and he tries to act like everyone is picking in him.

God help us.

Well, well,

Went to the Union meeting. Saw plenty of guys (and gals) who had balls enough to ask questions. Also saw a president get waaayyy to defensive and watched him leave the meeting in the middle! Left the meeting in a huff like a big baby, he did. His problems are all caused by his own actions and he tries to act like everyone is picking in him.

God help us.

YOU Have got to be kidding. The Big Mr Prez left the meeting? Before ti was over? Well that just goes to show you he must be guilty of something if he wa waaaaaaaaaaaaaaay tooo defensive. What questions did they ask him? I had to work and couldnt make the meeting.

NO, THEY DIDNT ASK QUESTIONS, THEY JUST SAT ON THEIR ASSES AND SHOT OFF THEIR MOUTHS ABOUT RETARDED SH IT.
WE'VE BEEN WITHOUT A CONTRACT FOR 40 MONTHS NOW AND THE THING THAT MOST BOTHERS SOME OF OUR MORONS IS WHETHER OR NOT THE BOARD TAKES MEMBERS OUT TO LUNCH ON ACADEMY DAYS ????????
CMON, THERES MORE IMPORTANT ISSUES THAN THAT. FUNNY ,I DIDNT HEAR ANYTHING OUTTA JONES.HE WAS SITTING IN THE BACK MUMBLING UNDER HIS BREATH TO A COUPLE OF GUYS BUT SINCE HE WAS THE BIG SHITSTIRRER , HOW COME HE DIDNT SAY ANYTHING ??? i WONDER WHY HE DIDNT SEND AROUND COPIES OF THE VOUCHERS THAT THE GUYS ON THE BOARD ARE SUPPOSED TO FILL OUT ??? ONCE AGAIN ANOTHER GARY LYNCHMOB, KURT SAID IT BEST, OF COURSE IT MAKES IT LOOK BAD AS FAR AS SPENDING GOES WITHOUT THE VOUCHERS TO EXPLAIN THE SPENDING.
ANOTHER FUNNY ONE IS THE LOUDMOUTH FROM THE FARM WHO THINKS HE KNOWS ALL THE RULES OF EVERYTHING, I HAD TO LAUGH WHEN DAVE REMINDED HIM ABOUT THE UNION BUYING HIM LUNCH DURING A TRAINING DAY. WE REALLY GOTTA START FOCUSING ON IMPORTANT STUFF INSTEAD OF HURT FEELINGS ABOUT LOSING ELECTIONS AND WHO IS GETTING LUNCH OR DRINKS BOUGHT FOR THEM AND WHO ISNT, CMON GUYS AND GIRLS, WE CAN DO BETTER FOR OURSELVES THAN THAT, CAN'T WE ????

Oh, they didn't ask questions? Just sat there and shot off their mouths?

I heard them ask a lot of questions, but get very few answers. Many of the questions were good. They did get stuck on a few narrow topics, but I thought it was because the board gave evasive answers. Lets see...some of the questions were:

How could the board have attempted to raise the dues in a way that had all the appearance of impropriety and did not follow the bylaws? Even though the board backed off on the dues increase, the question does in fact remain, and saying very loudly that the dues increase would not be pursued, doesn’t let them off the hook. I still want an answer. Why did they send out ballots that did not have “NO DUES INCREASE” clearly one of the choices? Why when they added up the votes and found that NO DUES INCREASE won, did they try to use b.s. tactics to force a vote on the three amounts of increase and leave us without the option of voting “NO”? How did they get a letter from the attorney claiming that such a ridiculous vote would follow the bylaws when it clearly does not? Since they, read V.D., would not answer the questions, he set the tone for the meeting. Everyone was very respectful until he started to tap dance and lie.

The Shell Gas Card bill was another pathetic excuse for the truth. Please, guy, no one bought that incomprehensible story!

Does anyone really believe that the Rhapsody.com charges that appear on the AmEx bill monthly got there due to V.D.’s “computer illiteracy”? You can’t do that by accident! He then told everyone that he didn't see the repeated charges for it on the bill! How can you verify your bill and provide vouchers if you didn’t know it was there?! How his nose didn’t grow, I’ll never know!

He couldn’t provide one reasonable answer to any question, and he had the same bills everyone else was looking at for two weeks. He couldn’t have tried his ridiculous stories out on someone else first, just to see if they flew? God, it’s no wonder our efforts to get a Department of Corrections went down the tubes! This guy can’t answer any question in a credible way! Read those transcripts, if you want to be sick.

Then he complains that the Sheriff picks on him, Hauppauge picks on him, and Albany picks on him. Now he has to come to a meeting and his own guys pick on him! Hey, you ran for president, you are responsible. You don’t get a pass on spending money like a drunken sailor, then asking us for more when we are all hurting financially. When he said “My kids read the papers. I get beat up in Newsday and Suffolk Life” what did that mean? Don’t ask me questions? Let me slide? Just looking for sympathy? What?

It is not that difficult, union men. Show us that you have curbed unnecessary spending before asking for more. Have the Budget Review Committee look at the budget and tell us we need more money for the fight. Have an open meeting between asking for the money and the vote. Follow the bylaws when you ask for more money.

Get your act together, guys, we are going broke and you don’t seem capable for taking care of business. I sure hope I’m wrong.

Time for Spota

[SHUTUP]

Why do you morons continue to feel the need to discuss private union buisness on a public forum?? Do you see ANY other union in the county doing this? The answer is NO! Find something to do with your time, other than bitching about our job and union!!!

NO, THEY DIDNT ASK QUESTIONS, THEY JUST SAT ON THEIR ASSES AND SHOT OFF THEIR MOUTHS ABOUT RETARDED SH IT.
WE'VE BEEN WITHOUT A CONTRACT FOR 40 MONTHS NOW AND THE THING THAT MOST BOTHERS SOME OF OUR MORONS IS WHETHER OR NOT THE BOARD TAKES MEMBERS OUT TO LUNCH ON ACADEMY DAYS ????????
CMON, THERES MORE IMPORTANT ISSUES THAN THAT. FUNNY ,I DIDNT HEAR ANYTHING OUTTA JONES.HE WAS SITTING IN THE BACK MUMBLING UNDER HIS BREATH TO A COUPLE OF GUYS BUT SINCE HE WAS THE BIG SHITSTIRRER , HOW COME HE DIDNT SAY ANYTHING ??? i WONDER WHY HE DIDNT SEND AROUND COPIES OF THE VOUCHERS THAT THE GUYS ON THE BOARD ARE SUPPOSED TO FILL OUT ??? ONCE AGAIN ANOTHER GARY LYNCHMOB, KURT SAID IT BEST, OF COURSE IT MAKES IT LOOK BAD AS FAR AS SPENDING GOES WITHOUT THE VOUCHERS TO EXPLAIN THE SPENDING.
ANOTHER FUNNY ONE IS THE LOUDMOUTH FROM THE FARM WHO THINKS HE KNOWS ALL THE RULES OF EVERYTHING, I HAD TO LAUGH WHEN DAVE REMINDED HIM ABOUT THE UNION BUYING HIM LUNCH DURING A TRAINING DAY. WE REALLY GOTTA START FOCUSING ON IMPORTANT STUFF INSTEAD OF HURT FEELINGS ABOUT LOSING ELECTIONS AND WHO IS GETTING LUNCH OR DRINKS BOUGHT FOR THEM AND WHO ISNT, CMON GUYS AND GIRLS, WE CAN DO BETTER FOR OURSELVES THAN THAT, CAN'T WE ????


It never ceases to amaze me. The people that we elecred to represent us spends spends spends and spends what they shouldnt. ThEN when someone has the balls and evidence to show US right away the guy who showed su is the culprit. Why is this? Don't blame the board and make them accountable for theier actions, Lets just slam the guy who had the BALLS to show us. I mean after all he is wrong right? WRONG>>>>>>>>> When is GODS name ar ewe going to hold the spenders responsible? NEVER? Just let them have carte blanch on spending and then they ask for more?
Did you Mr BigMOuth ask Jones why he didnt say anything at the meeting? I bet you didnt have the balls to. Well I did. And his answer was very satisfactory to me. SO SHUT the hell up and onyl run your fat mouht after you have all the facts.Ask him, I bet he will tell you why.
I didnt hear anyone at the meeting ask Vito by what grounds he has to press chargees against Mr Jones (as he names him) . Illegal? Nothin was done illegaly and Iknow because if it was done illegaly why wasn/t MR. JONES arrested?
Don't worry about oru contract because binding arbitration will DICTATE what we get It has nothing to do with Vito and his gang of thugs spending.
Wake up people.
Oh yeah and I love hsi excuse for using so much gas . "I drive a car with 90,000 miles on it. Sheesh. What a moron he takes us for.
I can't wait to hear his excuses next month.
Oh one more thing. Why didnt VITO bring his vouvhers with him to the meeting? What is he afraid of? Showing eh spends too much? I bet thats it.

Why do you morons continue to feel the need to discuss private union buisness on a public forum?? Do you see ANY other union in the county doing this? The answer is NO! Find something to do with your time, other than bitching about our job and union!!!

The true reason they discuss their union and job business here is because they don't have the guts or balls to discuss it at their meetings. God forbid they should confront the people that do wrong to their faces. They want to come on here and bash and trash the guys that do the right thing. Typical C/O attitude.

Although I will give them credit for this. They are the only group that thinks they have it the worst in this county. But, they still have no balls and the only thing i get from reading on here (if you can beleive this crap) is apparently one c/o (already named) has a HUGE set of balls for doing what he did. He knows the c/os will turn against him and make him the bad guy but he did it anyway. BULLY FOR YOU C/O I do hoe pyou read this and I hope justice will be served for you.

Time for Spota

Is that you Gary? or is that YOU Gary? or is it another windbag with an axe to grind named Gary?

The true reason they discuss their union and job business here is because they don't have the guts or balls to discuss it at their meetings. God forbid they should confront the people that do wrong to their faces. They want to come on here and bash and trash the guys that do the right thing. Typical C/O attitude.


It was discussed at the meeting. We were told lies, and when it was going rough for the Prez, he bolted for the door! Right in the middle of the meeting. We can't seem to discuss anything anywhere else. Once again, union guys, you are to blame with your b*llsh*t attitude, acting like we've got a lot of nerve to question anything.

[Givin janitors a bad name]

I was at the meeting too, and while there was concern about getting answers, it seems no matter what the guys on the board mightve said, it didnt fit into how people felt. Of course thats just my opinion, I will take the time to make an appointment with Charlie once he is back on his feet, to see for myself whats going on. For the life of me I never saw such a band of easily lead crybabies who if they dont get the answer they want , rant and rave like children. If that many people believed Gary was right, how come he lost 500-100? Please dont tell me its because of "new developments", because Gary himself was out in the office for 2 years as a released guy. So we are supposed to believe this has only now taken place since Gary got voted out? Obviously Gary's crew loves him and showed up to support him in his quest to cause disharmony as a union. Funny, if he were such a good union guy why didnt he vote against any spending on the board at all? Did Gary spend any money when he was out there? He didnt spread out anything with HIS name on it which makes you think does he think we are that shallow as to believe he never spent anything and the guys he doesnt like spent it all? Why after the election is it an issue? Gary was a board member for 4 years, but now since he was voted out things are all of a sudden not right? I dont know, you B crew guys and girls need to start doing some free thinking on your own, and maybe make an appointment with Charlie to see for yourself. I for one will not slam those guys who are at least trying to get things done for such an ungrateful bunch as ourselves just because someone else says so . And for Christs sake stop crying about a couple of trips to the Triangle geez, there are more important things to think about.

[Too Much BS]

I wen to the meeting, a lot of us did, there were no unfair questions asked, but there were a lot of questions that were not answered. Vito Tap Danced around up there like Sammy Davis in a musical. He gave low utterances about the Shell bill and how old his car is, etc.

I AM NOT BUYING INTO HIS BS ANY LONGER !

I voted for him during the election, I believed that we would be better served keeping Vito than electing Gary, now I'm not so sure any more. I talked with other guys from work today, I think someone needs to contact an outside auditor look over the books. I am going to find out if the DA or the New York State Dept. of Investigation Services is interested in any of this stuff? Sometimes when things look really bad - THEY ARE!

In any case I'm not taking any more BS stories from Vito, he has a responsibility to show us ALL the records and reports of finanaces from the union moneies he utilizes - END OF STORY. I hope we have the stones to pursue this wherever it takes us.

[Happy C/O]

I wen to the meeting, a lot of us did, there were no unfair questions asked, but there were a lot of questions that were not answered. Vito Tap Danced around up there like Sammy Davis in a musical. He gave low utterances about the Shell bill and how old his car is, etc.

I AM NOT BUYING INTO HIS BS ANY LONGER !

I voted for him during the election, I believed that we would be better served keeping Vito than electing Gary, now I'm not so sure any more. I talked with other guys from work today, I think someone needs to contact an outside auditor look over the books. I am going to find out if the DA or the New York State Dept. of Investigation Services is interested in any of this stuff? Sometimes when things look really bad - THEY ARE!

In any case I'm not taking any more BS stories from Vito, he has a responsibility to show us ALL the records and reports of finanaces from the union moneies he utilizes - END OF STORY. I hope we have the stones to pursue this wherever it takes us.

Gary Bennett already contacted the state. They are investigating and as per vito "I didnt hear anything so I guess they didnt find anything". yeah right. Who is he kidding. No news is good news? Not with an investigation. When they find things they will nto give it up untill everything is found and in order,. Then they will indict.

I too voted for Vito. I also think I voted for the wrong guy. I mean look at how he skirted around fishing for answers at the meeting then walked out when things were not going to his satisfaction. he invites us all to come to the meeting and ask questions and he will answer all of them. Then we come and ask and he gets so defenive to the point he walks out. In my eyes INNOCENT people dont walk out and be so defensive. I am so sorry that I voted for him.

BRAVO to you Mr. Jones if you read this. Thank you for bringing out the information that you did. You are the man with the biggest set of B_ _ _ S because you know they will all turn against you and you would be tagged "THEBAD GUY" not the board but you did it anyway.
Thanks again GJ I wish more people had guts like you.
Yaphank backs you too.

why didnt he push this issue when he was a board member?

[Happy C/O]

why didnt he push this issue when he was a board member?


Why don't you ask him instead of coming on here and trying to make him look like a bad guy OK? I asked him and I know why, so ask him call him he will tell you I am sure. he does have reasons and I beleive him. Again ask him you will be amazed why he didn't or couldn't.

[jailbird 75]

Well Jones did the right thing I voted for Vito what an ass I was. Now we have facts Vito is in fact a crook I think his words and actions spoke volumes at the meeting.We should as memebers CALL FOR VITO TO STEP DOWN.Only thing Gary Jones Did wrong was not bring this out in the election but i guess he thought running a clean campaign was the right way to go.

[just a...... C/O]

i should have stayed in my cubby hole :roll:

why didnt he push this issue when he was a board member?

why didnt he push this issue when he was a board member?


Why don't you ask him instead of coming on here and trying to make him look like a bad guy OK? I asked him and I know why, so ask him call him he will tell you I am sure. he does have reasons and I beleive him. Again ask him you will be amazed why he didn't or couldn't.

Saying why dont you ask him about it is the same as the union saying make an appointment with Charlie and he will show you what you were looking to see. Since the guys at the meeting werent buying that one, why should they buy the go ask Gary one? He was at the meeting too, why wouldnt he just say it when he was there? Thats the same as saying why didnt Vito bring his vouchers, well, why didnt Gary bring his?
It is under investigation right now, and I supposed we will all find out the truth when the Bennett Commision is over. I only hope that if there truly wasnt the widespread thievery everyone seems to think is going on because of this , that Bennett is made to pay back the union all the money it had to spend because he was embarassed he couldnt do the job he ran for.

why didnt he push this issue when he was a board member?


Why don't you ask him instead of coming on here and trying to make him look like a bad guy OK? I asked him and I know why, so ask him call him he will tell you I am sure. he does have reasons and I beleive him. Again ask him you will be amazed why he didn't or couldn't.

Saying why dont you ask him about it is the same as the union saying make an appointment with Charlie and he will show you what you were looking to see. Since the guys at the meeting werent buying that one, why should they buy the go ask Gary one? He was at the meeting too, why wouldnt he just say it when he was there? Thats the same as saying why didnt Vito bring his vouchers, well, why didnt Gary bring his?
It is under investigation right now, and I supposed we will all find out the truth when the Bennett Commision is over. I only hope that if there truly wasnt the widespread thievery everyone seems to think is going on because of this , that Bennett is made to pay back the union all the money it had to spend because he was embarassed he couldnt do the job he ran for.

All this is crap. We are 4 years without contract because of our union. We are at least a year away from getting one. Yes Vito is a thief. That does not change us being 4 years without a contract and no end in sight.

[Happy C/O]

why didnt he push this issue when he was a board member?


Why don't you ask him instead of coming on here and trying to make him look like a bad guy OK? I asked him and I know why, so ask him call him he will tell you I am sure. he does have reasons and I beleive him. Again ask him you will be amazed why he didn't or couldn't.

Saying why dont you ask him about it is the same as the union saying make an appointment with Charlie and he will show you what you were looking to see. Since the guys at the meeting werent buying that one, why should they buy the go ask Gary one? He was at the meeting too, why wouldnt he just say it when he was there? Thats the same as saying why didnt Vito bring his vouchers, well, why didnt Gary bring his?
It is under investigation right now, and I supposed we will all find out the truth when the Bennett Commision is over. I only hope that if there truly wasnt the widespread thievery everyone seems to think is going on because of this , that Bennett is made to pay back the union all the money it had to spend because he was embarassed he couldnt do the job he ran for.

Well I can understand your frustration. I spoke to Gary after the meeting and he did have all of his vouchers with him. I didn't hear anyone ask him for them did you? He did that in case he was attacked by the board. I saw them and although I didn't check line for line at least he brought them with him. Why didn't Vito and the rest of the board have theirs with them. Surely they had enough time to get them together and bring them. Would have taken alot of suspicion off them unless the vouchers will prove they spend what they shouldn't where they shouldn't.

Bottom line is contract or no contract they spend our dues on things they shouldn't and they should be made to pay for it or at the very least be held responsible for their own actions regarding the spending of our dues.

why didnt he push this issue when he was a board member?


Why don't you ask him instead of coming on here and trying to make him look like a bad guy OK? I asked him and I know why, so ask him call him he will tell you I am sure. he does have reasons and I beleive him. Again ask him you will be amazed why he didn't or couldn't.

Saying why dont you ask him about it is the same as the union saying make an appointment with Charlie and he will show you what you were looking to see. Since the guys at the meeting werent buying that one, why should they buy the go ask Gary one? He was at the meeting too, why wouldnt he just say it when he was there? Thats the same as saying why didnt Vito bring his vouchers, well, why didnt Gary bring his?
It is under investigation right now, and I supposed we will all find out the truth when the Bennett Commision is over. I only hope that if there truly wasnt the widespread thievery everyone seems to think is going on because of this , that Bennett is made to pay back the union all the money it had to spend because he was embarassed he couldnt do the job he ran for.

Well I can understand your frustration. I spoke to Gary after the meeting and he did have all of his vouchers with him. I didn't hear anyone ask him for them did you? He did that in case he was attacked by the board. I saw them and although I didn't check line for line at least he brought them with him. Why didn't Vito and the rest of the board have theirs with them. Surely they had enough time to get them together and bring them. Would have taken alot of suspicion off them unless the vouchers will prove they spend what they shouldn't where they shouldn't.

Bottom line is contract or no contract they spend our dues on things they shouldn't and they should be made to pay for it or at the very least be held responsible for their own actions regarding the spending of our dues.

I couldnt agree more that anyone entrusted with the welfare of a union should be accountable. The 4 years without a contract though is the same 4 years Gary was a board member. Maybe he showed YOU his vouchers, and maybe YOU were satisfied, but for the mob that wants the heads of the board, I think if they should be held accountable for showing everybody their vouchers, then Gary should not be treated any differently. That being said, I couldnt care less about meals and drinks for members, and as Kurt mentioned, for all the guys and girls he did buy meals and drinks for not one of them thought to say then, but are willing to crucify him and the rest of the board for doing so. That kind of member services spending along with a small reward to guys and girls who go the extra mile to help out the union should get a meal and a couple of drinks , whats with this crazy membership anyway??????????????? About the only thing we are experts at is COMPLAINING. When the contract is done, my guess is that no matter what the arbitrator says ,more than half the membership will be whining and crying and , oh yes, COMPLAINING . For the love of God if anyone here is that sick of things here I could only hope they find a new job so that we who appreciate it don't have to suffer their crying. I havent been here all that long but thats such a downer to hear guys who couldnt make it in the private sector(where I came from) act as though the world owes them something!

[jailbird 75]

Since your knew here here we will give you a pass for having your head up your ass.

Perhaps the reason the board members did not bring their vouchers is because all financial documents are to be kept in the office unless authorized by the treasurer. GJ is a thief and stole documents from the office. Please forgive the current board members for following the rules...

So that tired bunch of crap. Jones never tool the records out of the office. Copying them is hardly a crime. Hell, they are my records, and I want to see them. The ridiculously ballsy board could simply have brought copies of their vouchers! You are either on the board, or so far up their butts you can't see.

Vito had two weeks or better to prepare his response and this was the best he could do? Aren't you ashamed of him? I know I am.

His act is so old. It is a shame that it came to this before everyones eyes are open.

And for what its worth, I knew about this stuff before the election and urged Gary to bring it all out then. He wanted to run a clean campaign, I thought he should have shown Vito's warts to us. You guys can stop trying to deflect the issue with "Gary stole the papers" bull. I don't care if the Watergate burglers brought us the info, it doesn't give the board a pass. TELL US THE TRUTH! ITS OUR DAMN MONEY!

So that tired bunch of crap. Jones never tool the records out of the office. Copying them is hardly a crime. Hell, they are my records, and I want to see them. The ridiculously ballsy board could simply have brought copies of their vouchers! You are either on the board, or so far up their butts you can't see.

Vito had two weeks or better to prepare his response and this was the best he could do? Aren't you ashamed of him? I know I am.

His act is so old. It is a shame that it came to this before everyones eyes are open.

And for what its worth, I knew about this stuff before the election and urged Gary to bring it all out then. He wanted to run a clean campaign, I thought he should have shown Vito's warts to us. You guys can stop trying to deflect the issue with "Gary stole the papers" bull. I don't care if the Watergate burglers brought us the info, it doesn't give the board a pass. TELL US THE TRUTH! ITS OUR DAMN MONEY!


Finally someone who talks common sense. You are correct.they dd have two weeks to prepare or try to cover their ILLEGAL spending. But they didn't. Why? probably because they knew that i fthey brought their vouchers there would have been a lynching that night. I mean come on, Vito said all hsi expenses are explained on hsi vouchers. When someone asked him about the download subscriptions being charged to hsi credit card every month he said he wasn't aware of that. So tell me how can he fill out an dexplain all hsi expenses on hsi voucher if he wasn't aware o fthe expenses on hsi charge? Odviously he doesn't check his bill or doesn't have to because nothing is ever checked. Well he was wrong this time. he got caught with his pant sdown and I for one an glad that GJ had the nerve to do it. he took a big risk doing this and I for one will stand behind him and cover hsi back from now on. he is a man of honor, NOtT a thief.

I too knew about this stuff and said to Gary I thought eh should let us all know but he insisted on running a clean campaign. He was waiting untill after the election. It didn't matter to him who won it woudl come outand so he did what he said he would. I am prou dan dglad I voted for him and you knwo what? When Vito and the rest of them have to resign I will push Gary to run for presidnet again. He probably won't but I knwo I can trust him.
SO maybe the rest of you out there shoul dget your heads out of your butts and put the blame where it belongs NOT ON GARY.

Time for Spota


HAVE NO FEAR

[Happy C/O]

why didnt he push this issue when he was a board member?


Why don't you ask him instead of coming on here and trying to make him look like a bad guy OK? I asked him and I know why, so ask him call him he will tell you I am sure. he does have reasons and I beleive him. Again ask him you will be amazed why he didn't or couldn't.

Saying why dont you ask him about it is the same as the union saying make an appointment with Charlie and he will show you what you were looking to see. Since the guys at the meeting werent buying that one, why should they buy the go ask Gary one? He was at the meeting too, why wouldnt he just say it when he was there? Thats the same as saying why didnt Vito bring his vouchers, well, why didnt Gary bring his?
It is under investigation right now, and I supposed we will all find out the truth when the Bennett Commision is over. I only hope that if there truly wasnt the widespread thievery everyone seems to think is going on because of this , that Bennett is made to pay back the union all the money it had to spend because he was embarassed he couldnt do the job he ran for.

Well I can understand your frustration. I spoke to Gary after the meeting and he did have all of his vouchers with him. I didn't hear anyone ask him for them did you? He did that in case he was attacked by the board. I saw them and although I didn't check line for line at least he brought them with him. Why didn't Vito and the rest of the board have theirs with them. Surely they had enough time to get them together and bring them. Would have taken alot of suspicion off them unless the vouchers will prove they spend what they shouldn't where they shouldn't.

Bottom line is contract or no contract they spend our dues on things they shouldn't and they should be made to pay for it or at the very least be held responsible for their own actions regarding the spending of our dues.

I couldnt agree more that anyone entrusted with the welfare of a union should be accountable. The 4 years without a contract though is the same 4 years Gary was a board member. Maybe he showed YOU his vouchers, and maybe YOU were satisfied, but for the mob that wants the heads of the board, I think if they should be held accountable for showing everybody their vouchers, then Gary should not be treated any differently. That being said, I couldnt care less about meals and drinks for members, and as Kurt mentioned, for all the guys and girls he did buy meals and drinks for not one of them thought to say then, but are willing to crucify him and the rest of the board for doing so. That kind of member services spending along with a small reward to guys and girls who go the extra mile to help out the union should get a meal and a couple of drinks , whats with this crazy membership anyway??????????????? About the only thing we are experts at is COMPLAINING. When the contract is done, my guess is that no matter what the arbitrator says ,more than half the membership will be whining and crying and , oh yes, COMPLAINING . For the love of God if anyone here is that sick of things here I could only hope they find a new job so that we who appreciate it don't have to suffer their crying. I havent been here all that long but thats such a downer to hear guys who couldnt make it in the private sector(where I came from) act as though the world owes them something!


Just to set the record straight. Are you talkign abotu GO or GJ being on the board for 4 years? because if it is GJ if I recall right he was on the board for 19 months as third vice president and off the board for nine months. Then was elected recording secretary and held that position for 13 months. That hardly add sup to a full 4 years you guys keep saying he wason the boar dfor.
Get your fatcs straight before you coem here and state un truths. And just for the recod, GJ was probably the only honest guy on the board since well since I can ever remember. And now the truth si coming out and the babys cant take it and get all frustrated at the meetings and yell and walk out. What a man... Sheesh.

Well it's official, today Tisch has completely lost control of his department.
Maybe he popped his head out of his office and saw his shadow.


Wow so you think tisch really lost control of his department???????

[jailbird 75]

I know Vito has lost control and he is a train wreck waiting to happen.Cant wait till there asses are up against the wall with criminal charges and they all start to turn against each other.I cant wait to see his face when charges are brought against him than he can explain to his kids why he is on news 12 and the front page of newsday (Cliton haD his Sandy burgler, Bush had his libby and YES WE NOW HAVE A VITO.

He never controlled it..His Murphettes did.

I know Vito has lost control and he is a train wreck waiting to happen.Cant wait till there asses are up against the wall with criminal charges and they all start to turn against each other.I cant wait to see his face when charges are brought against him than he can explain to his kids why he is on news 12 and the front page of newsday (Cliton haD his Sandy burgler, Bush had his libby and YES WE NOW HAVE A VITO.

Jailbird75, that has to be your IQ. Are you guys really that simple????

Just have some retard named Gary say something and its gospel, sheesh, start using your brains.

We are without a contract for quite some time so the only way you use your time is trying to bring down the guys who are trying to help, what a bunch if ingrates. Why cant you wait for the results of the investigation, is your witch hunt that much more important to you? AND, you arent just hurting (or trying to hurt) the board, you are hurting everyone in the union because you post your crap here in a public forum.
If everyone is that upset, why dont you go to the union office and check out things for yourself, if youre still not satisfied, ask them to make one room of the office a post it board, they can line the walls with craft paper and give you markers so you can write anything you like. The best part is you will have your own identity doing something like that instead of your usual cowardice.

I know Vito has lost control and he is a train wreck waiting to happen.Cant wait till there asses are up against the wall with criminal charges and they all start to turn against each other.I cant wait to see his face when charges are brought against him than he can explain to his kids why he is on news 12 and the front page of newsday (Cliton haD his Sandy burgler, Bush had his libby and YES WE NOW HAVE A VITO.

Jailbird75, that has to be your IQ. Are you guys really that simple????

Just have some retard named Gary say something and its gospel, sheesh, start using your brains.

We are without a contract for quite some time so the only way you use your time is trying to bring down the guys who are trying to help, what a bunch if ingrates. Why cant you wait for the results of the investigation, is your witch hunt that much more important to you? AND, you arent just hurting (or trying to hurt) the board, you are hurting everyone in the union because you post your crap here in a public forum.
If everyone is that upset, why dont you go to the union office and check out things for yourself, if youre still not satisfied, ask them to make one room of the office a post it board, they can line the walls with craft paper and give you markers so you can write anything you like. The best part is you will have your own identity doing something like that instead of your usual cowardice.


I see you are using yoru cowardice too. You apparently don't feel the need to let us know who YOU are, so shut up and let the games continue. I guess you don't care how your dues are spent, well I do and so do alot of other people. Blame the guys who spend not the guys and gals who want answers when there are no legimet answers.
By the way. Have you seen the records? If not shut up !!!!!!!!!11

I know Vito has lost control and he is a train wreck waiting to happen.Cant wait till there asses are up against the wall with criminal charges and they all start to turn against each other.I cant wait to see his face when charges are brought against him than he can explain to his kids why he is on news 12 and the front page of newsday (Cliton haD his Sandy burgler, Bush had his libby and YES WE NOW HAVE A VITO.

Jailbird75, that has to be your IQ. Are you guys really that simple????

Just have some retard named Gary say something and its gospel, sheesh, start using your brains.

We are without a contract for quite some time so the only way you use your time is trying to bring down the guys who are trying to help, what a bunch if ingrates. Why cant you wait for the results of the investigation, is your witch hunt that much more important to you? AND, you arent just hurting (or trying to hurt) the board, you are hurting everyone in the union because you post your crap here in a public forum.
If everyone is that upset, why dont you go to the union office and check out things for yourself, if youre still not satisfied, ask them to make one room of the office a post it board, they can line the walls with craft paper and give you markers so you can write anything you like. The best part is you will have your own identity doing something like that instead of your usual cowardice.


I see you are using yoru cowardice too. You apparently don't feel the need to let us know who YOU are, so shut up and let the games continue. I guess you don't care how your dues are spent, well I do and so do alot of other people. Blame the guys who spend not the guys and gals who want answers when there are no legimet answers.
By the way. Have you seen the records? If not shut up !!!!!!!!!11

First, I didnt go to the meeting grandstanding to try to make a name for myself, I have my critcisms and I directed them to who they were meant

Second, I do care how my dues are spent but I also come from a trades union and happen to know that taking care of business and taking care of members are synonymous. Certainly if the members want to be taken out to lunch or drinks or whatever, that is something that goes on all the time, so some people should start growing up and focus on important issues.

Third, I went to the office and saw vouchers and I dont have a problem with spending that is done for the betterment of the union as long as I think it will come to something good down the road.

Fourth, why dont you and the rest of the crybaby shitheads on this job either go to the office and see for yourself or just quit and get a better job if being an adult is too much to handle. I am officially ashamed of the people I work with , and for all the whining if we get 4 zeros we will have it coming to us because of people like you,

BTW, if there are any other people named Gary who would like to launch an investigation so we can waste more money please, get right on it, we cant possibly have enough distractions for the simpletons of Corrections.

How can anyone support this board? The have us three years without a contract. It will be four before we see one and at that time we will still be three years without.
We have constantly backed the wrong people, gone after the wrong jobs, supported the wrong causes.

How can anyone support this board? The have us three years without a contract. It will be four before we see one and at that time we will still be three years without.
We have constantly backed the wrong people, gone after the wrong jobs, supported the wrong causes.

Of course its the boards fault we have gone this long without a contract, maybe they shouldve settled on the hosing AME took, at least then guys like yourself would have other reasons to be angry. The County wanting monumental givebacks have nothing to do with why we prefer to wait to see how an arbitrator treats us , RIGHT??? No, they have nothing to do with it I am certain. Meanwhile, the only time anyone ever comes to meetings is because theyre angry, never to find out information on how to help out the guys who were elected. The simple fact is, we elect them , we neglect them , then we bash the crap out of them because we expect them to cough up 10 carat diamonds for us like the cat in the commercial. THEY CANT DO IT BY THEMSELVES. If you were worried about backing the wrong people, did it ever occur to you to join the political action committee and voice your opinion? Chances are you have some feeble excuse like the rest of the membership about why you cant alot any time to help your union help you , but plenty of time to slam them . I am glad we have the 2 year split election cycle, its like the days of Rome where we see who we can throw to the lions and laugh about it while we never get anywhere for doing it. Good clean fun right?

I hope they purchased corn with the money in question.

[Beyonce Knowles]

The only thing that matters i whether or not Steve Levy gets 66%. Everything else on this thread is shitofsky.

[HappyC/O]

How can anyone support this board? The have us three years without a contract. It will be four before we see one and at that time we will still be three years without.
We have constantly backed the wrong people, gone after the wrong jobs, supported the wrong causes.

The boar dis not to blame for us no thaving a contratc. Put blame where blame is due. ON THE COUNTY. it is their fault. The boar dwouldn't cave inot their give backs so they chose to fight it out and we got binding arbitration and they decided to go there. I am with them on that. Bravo to the boar dfor standing up to Levy.
What I can not figure is why are so many people mad at the person (no names) who exposed the boar dfor what they are regarding spending our dues the way they shouldn't be? If someone witnessed a crime and called the police and they caught the guy, would you be pissed at the guy who called the police? Well if you answer yes you are either a moron or one o fthe members on our dysfunctional board.

[8/5/3]

What if that person watched a crime take place for two or so years then decided to call the police. (Sounds like a sore loser to me)

What if that person watched a crime take place for two or so years then decided to call the police. (Sounds like a sore loser to me)

Can you verify and back up that statement? Know the truth before you run yoru mouth. Talk to THAT person and see for yourself.

How can anyone support this board? The have us three years without a contract. It will be four before we see one and at that time we will still be three years without.
We have constantly backed the wrong people, gone after the wrong jobs, supported the wrong causes.

The boar dis not to blame for us no thaving a contratc. Put blame where blame is due. ON THE COUNTY. it is their fault. The boar dwouldn't cave inot their give backs so they chose to fight it out and we got binding arbitration and they decided to go there. I am with them on that. Bravo to the boar dfor standing up to Levy.
What I can not figure is why are so many people mad at the person (no names) who exposed the boar dfor what they are regarding spending our dues the way they shouldn't be? If someone witnessed a crime and called the police and they caught the guy, would you be pissed at the guy who called the police? Well if you answer yes you are either a moron or one o fthe members on our dysfunctional board.

Good lord, where did this guy learn to spell?

[hangman]

Vito keeps feeding himself the rope dont worry he will soon hang himself.

[jaibird 75]

Jailbird75, that has to be your IQ. Are you guys really that simple????

Just have some retard named Gary say something and its gospel, sheesh, start using your brains.

We are without a contract for quite some time so the only way you use your time is trying to bring down the guys who are trying to help, what a bunch if ingrates. Why cant you wait for the results of the investigation, is your witch hunt that much more important to you? AND, you arent just hurting (or trying to hurt) the board, you are hurting everyone in the union because you post your crap here in a public forum.
If everyone is that upset, why dont you go to the union office and check out things for yourself, if youre still not satisfied, ask them to make one room of the office a post it board, they can line the walls with craft paper and give you markers so you can write anything you like. The best part is you will have your own identity doing something like that instead of your usual cowardice.





No retard attend a meeting.Great post I like it, you got a 5 cent head.You know what here is a dime lets see your next post.Let Vito pick up the tab on your next post after that Im sure Vito will pick up the tab for anything else you have to say out of the 5 cent mouth.

How can anyone support this board? The have us three years without a contract. It will be four before we see one and at that time we will still be three years without.
We have constantly backed the wrong people, gone after the wrong jobs, supported the wrong causes.

Of course its the boards fault we have gone this long without a contract, maybe they shouldve settled on the hosing AME took, at least then guys like yourself would have other reasons to be angry. The County wanting monumental givebacks have nothing to do with why we prefer to wait to see how an arbitrator treats us , RIGHT??? No, they have nothing to do with it I am certain. Meanwhile, the only time anyone ever comes to meetings is because theyre angry, never to find out information on how to help out the guys who were elected. The simple fact is, we elect them , we neglect them , then we bash the crap out of them because we expect them to cough up 10 carat diamonds for us like the cat in the commercial. THEY CANT DO IT BY THEMSELVES. If you were worried about backing the wrong people, did it ever occur to you to join the political action committee and voice your opinion? Chances are you have some feeble excuse like the rest of the membership about why you cant alot any time to help your union help you , but plenty of time to slam them . I am glad we have the 2 year split election cycle, its like the days of Rome where we see who we can throw to the lions and laugh about it while we never get anywhere for doing it. Good clean fun right?

Maybe the board should have made better choices so that the County Exec, the Sheriff and most of the Legislature would be people who we supported instead of people we worked against!
We supported the board by electing them. Did you foget how much they get paid from dues taken from us? No one expected a diamond ring. We did suspect not be put in a position where we will soon be FOUR years without a contract!!!!
Rome is a great comparison. It fell because its leaders became lazy, drunken, stupid fools who did not care about the people who the represented!

[Happy C/O]

How can anyone support this board? The have us three years without a contract. It will be four before we see one and at that time we will still be three years without.
We have constantly backed the wrong people, gone after the wrong jobs, supported the wrong causes.

Of course its the boards fault we have gone this long without a contract, maybe they shouldve settled on the hosing AME took, at least then guys like yourself would have other reasons to be angry. The County wanting monumental givebacks have nothing to do with why we prefer to wait to see how an arbitrator treats us , RIGHT??? No, they have nothing to do with it I am certain. Meanwhile, the only time anyone ever comes to meetings is because theyre angry, never to find out information on how to help out the guys who were elected. The simple fact is, we elect them , we neglect them , then we bash the crap out of them because we expect them to cough up 10 carat diamonds for us like the cat in the commercial. THEY CANT DO IT BY THEMSELVES. If you were worried about backing the wrong people, did it ever occur to you to join the political action committee and voice your opinion? Chances are you have some feeble excuse like the rest of the membership about why you cant alot any time to help your union help you , but plenty of time to slam them . I am glad we have the 2 year split election cycle, its like the days of Rome where we see who we can throw to the lions and laugh about it while we never get anywhere for doing it. Good clean fun right?

Maybe the board should have made better choices so that the County Exec, the Sheriff and most of the Legislature would be people who we supported instead of people we worked against!
We supported the board by electing them. Did you foget how much they get paid from dues taken from us? No one expected a diamond ring. We did suspect not be put in a position where we will soon be FOUR years without a contract!!!!
Rome is a great comparison. It fell because its leaders became lazy, drunken, stupid fools who did not care about the people who the represented!


WOW Rome and our board. Sounds like one and the same. By the way is that where vito got his work ethics? I mean didn't he go to Rome Italy while on the board and spend our dues for that trip? I wouldn't be a bit surprised.
Blah Blah Blah that's what hs answers sound like to us at our meetings.
Think back. He sent out a letter saying he wanted us to go to the meeting and ask questions and he would answer them all. Then when we asked questions he got so mad at us for questioning his spending he walked out of the meeting like a big baby. So if we coul dget him so frustrated just by asking qusetions he should have answers to imaine how he sounds at meetings with Politicians when he doesn't have answers to their questions.
Our Leader, fearless? I doubt it. Smart? I doubt it. Living hihg on the hog (our dues)? Definitly !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Perhaps the reason the board members did not bring their vouchers is because all financial documents are to be kept in the office unless authorized by the treasurer. GJ is a thief and stole documents from the office. Please forgive the current board members for following the rules...

Well first off I doubt very much it is a crime to make copies of bills to show us what money is being spent and where our money is being spent.

Second, if the board was so sure they didn't spend our dues illicitly why didn't they bring their vouchers to the meeting?

Third, why were all the questions about spending being directed at Vito? Was he the only one who spent our dues on items that looked suspect?
Or did he instruct the rest of the board to keep quiet and he will handle it? Seems to me there is an awful lot of suspect spending form the other bpard members as well as vito. Seems that they ALL should have brought their vouchers with them. Then again, were their vouchers even filed? Look, Vito didn't even know there were charges on his bill every month. so how can he say everything is explained on his vouchers when he didn't know the charges were on his bill?

LOOK PEOPLE. SEE WHAT THEY ARE DOING. HOLD THEM ACCOUNTABLE FOR WHAT THEY SPEND. IF IT IS NOT LEGITIMATE GET RID OF THEM, MAKE THEM RESIGN, GET NEW LEADERS WHO WILL DO THE RIGHT THING.

Then again, were their vouchers even filed? Look, Vito didn't even know there were charges on his bill every month. so how can he say everything is explained on his vouchers when he didn't know the charges were on the bill?




They only write vouchers when they swipe the card and are aware of the purchases. The charge you were referring to was a recurring charge over the computer. How much union business do you think would get discussed if 100 people were trying to look at vouchers and asking questions. Make an appointment on your own time and go to the union hall. That way the other 99 people who have real questions dont have to wait through your nonsense. Lets face it though, no matter what those vouchers say, You will still not believe it. We voted them in! Deal with it. Stop listening to GJ he is a coward. He didnt want to get elected. He is incapable of running a union. Even if they did misspend some money, as long as we do well in arbitration, nobody will care.

Then again, were their vouchers even filed? Look, Vito didn't even know there were charges on his bill every month. so how can he say everything is explained on his vouchers when he didn't know the charges were on the bill?




They only write vouchers when they swipe the card and are aware of the purchases. The charge you were referring to was a recurring charge over the computer. How much union business do you think would get discussed if 100 people were trying to look at vouchers and asking questions. Make an appointment on your own time and go to the union hall. That way the other 99 people who have real questions dont have to wait through your nonsense. Lets face it though, no matter what those vouchers say, You will still not believe it. We voted them in! Deal with it. Stop listening to GJ he is a coward. He didnt want to get elected. He is incapable of running a union. Even if they did misspend some money, as long as we do well in arbitration, nobody will care.


Well that's no excuse. If they make a purchase weather it is with the card or they lay out CASH, it all goes on the voucher. I bet they don't forget to file a voucher if they happen to lay out CASH. Without a voucher they can't get reimbursed (and they should have receipts for cash expenses, do they?) but I bet they do. Just ask the ex-second vp about that.

Maybe the board should have made better choices so that the County Exec, the Sheriff and most of the Legislature would be people who we supported instead of people we worked against!
We supported the board by electing them. Did you foget how much they get paid from dues taken from us? No one expected a diamond ring. We did suspect not be put in a position where we will soon be FOUR years without a contract!!!!
Rome is a great comparison. It fell because its leaders became lazy, drunken, stupid fools who did not care about the people who the represented![/quote]





Oh yeah. It worked out great for the Deps, right. They supported them and had a lot of givebacks with nothing to show for it.

As a CO, I am ashamed of the assholes I work with. I could only hope all the assholes I do work with who have so much negativity to speak of , quit, and find a much better job that makes them happy and keeps them from speaking poorly of those in the thankless position of trying to make a positive difference for those of us who appreciate our job.

As a CO, I am ashamed of the assholes I work with. I could only hope all the assholes I do work with who have so much negativity to speak of , quit, and find a much better job that makes them happy and keeps them from speaking poorly of those in the thankless position of trying to make a positive difference for those of us who appreciate our job.

maybe YOU should quit .............asshole

Then again, were their vouchers even filed? Look, Vito didn't even know there were charges on his bill every month. so how can he say everything is explained on his vouchers when he didn't know the charges were on the bill?


Are you kidding?

They only write vouchers when they swipe the card and are aware of the purchases. The charge you were referring to was a recurring charge over the computer. How much union business do you think would get discussed if 100 people were trying to look at vouchers and asking questions. Make an appointment on your own time and go to the union hall. That way the other 99 people who have real questions dont have to wait through your nonsense. Lets face it though, no matter what those vouchers say, You will still not believe it. We voted them in! Deal with it. Stop listening to GJ he is a coward. He didnt want to get elected. He is incapable of running a union. Even if they did misspend some money, as long as we do well in arbitration, nobody will care.

First off, to validate ANY purchase, whether scanned at the point of sale or expended in petty cash, or purchased via computer - these should ALL appear on a monthly expense report and that report should be made available 1/2 hour prior to EVERY meeting we hold. I would estimate that there were 107 people at the last meeting and 99 were there to ask Vito about his expenses. So at very least if you are going to try and make a point don't get the figures off by that much - you sound like a retard. I could care less what GJ says about anything he is a boob, but frankly so are you and all the other kinuckleheads trying to mislead brothers into believing that every bad thing said about Vito or the board is said by GJ. You are way off base with that comment. I think this whole thing needs to go to the NY State Investigation Services Section or the Suffolk DA - if he has the stones to truly look into it. Wherever you see smoke there is probably some fire there as well.

Then again, were their vouchers even filed? Look, Vito didn't even know there were charges on his bill every month. so how can he say everything is explained on his vouchers when he didn't know the charges were on the bill?


Are you kidding?

They only write vouchers when they swipe the card and are aware of the purchases. The charge you were referring to was a recurring charge over the computer. How much union business do you think would get discussed if 100 people were trying to look at vouchers and asking questions. Make an appointment on your own time and go to the union hall. That way the other 99 people who have real questions dont have to wait through your nonsense. Lets face it though, no matter what those vouchers say, You will still not believe it. We voted them in! Deal with it. Stop listening to GJ he is a coward. He didnt want to get elected. He is incapable of running a union. Even if they did misspend some money, as long as we do well in arbitration, nobody will care.

First off, to validate ANY purchase, whether scanned at the point of sale or expended in petty cash, or purchased via computer - these should ALL appear on a monthly expense report and that report should be made available 1/2 hour prior to EVERY meeting we hold. I would estimate that there were 107 people at the last meeting and 99 were there to ask Vito about his expenses. So at very least if you are going to try and make a point don't get the figures off by that much - you sound like a retard. I could care less what GJ says about anything he is a boob, but frankly so are you and all the other kinuckleheads trying to mislead brothers into believing that every bad thing said about Vito or the board is said by GJ. You are way off base with that comment. I think this whole thing needs to go to the NY State Investigation Services Section or the Suffolk DA - if he has the stones to truly look into it. Wherever you see smoke there is probably some fire there as well.

Youre right, and we should call up the US Attorney General, ask the CIA , the FBI and maybe even the KGB to get another investigation going. Certainly if someone says something on here it must be true. Surely there is stealing going on, the sloth from the farm Bennett knew it all along, I cant wait until his investigation is over and we can get a few more going------ this is great !!!!!

[NotAPODguy]

As a CO, I am ashamed of the assholes I work with. I could only hope all the assholes I do work with who have so much negativity to speak of , quit, and find a much better job that makes them happy and keeps them from speaking poorly of those in the thankless position of trying to make a positive difference for those of us who appreciate our job.

maybe YOU should quit .............xxxxxyy

I'll be the first to admit it, we have a pretty goog gig, you people that complain sicken me. How many people do you come into contact each day that has a shittier job then us and makes half of what we do? I can name a few..

I'll be the first to admit it, we have a pretty goog gig, you people that complain sicken me. How many people do you come into contact each day that has a shittier job then us and makes half of what we do? I can name a few..

What the hell does having a good job have to do with people stealing our money? Are you saying that because we have a good job we should tolerate a certain amount of larceny of our dues? Or maybe that stealing a portion of our dues comes with having a good job?

Your thinking is off base and it's what makes this kind of theft easy for those who would do so.

I'll be the first to admit it, we have a pretty goog gig, you people that complain sicken me. How many people do you come into contact each day that has a shittier job then us and makes half of what we do? I can name a few..

What the hell does having a good job have to do with people stealing our money? Are you saying that because we have a good job we should tolerate a certain amount of larceny of our dues? Or maybe that stealing a portion of our dues comes with having a good job?

Your thinking is off base and it's what makes this kind of theft easy for those who would do so.

And your thinking or lack thereof by automatically stamping the guys on the board with GUILTY before you see EVERYTHING (not just what Jones wanted you to see) is off base.

How come Gary didnt bring any credit card bills from when he was out in the office? Is he trying to make it appear as though he did absolutely no spending and should be seen as the big hero of the union . The sad thing here is people have bought into that lock, stock, and barrel. I heard Gary had been planning something like this for many months so he purposely didnt use the union card he was issued and instead asked other board members to use theirs when he wanted something . I will ask the board members myself to see if he ever did that to them ( the oh I forgot my card can you use yours ). If he did , just for the sake of trying to make himself look like a financial conservative to the membership and to slam the other guys, then that just goes to show you what kind of person 500-100 already thought he is.

I'll be the first to admit it, we have a pretty goog gig, you people that complain sicken me. How many people do you come into contact each day that has a shittier job then us and makes half of what we do? I can name a few..

What the hell does having a good job have to do with people stealing our money? Are you saying that because we have a good job we should tolerate a certain amount of larceny of our dues? Or maybe that stealing a portion of our dues comes with having a good job?

Your thinking is off base and it's what makes this kind of theft easy for those who would do so.

And your thinking or lack thereof by automatically stamping the guys on the board with GUILTY before you see EVERYTHING (not just what Jones wanted you to see) is off base.

How come Gary didnt bring any credit card bills from when he was out in the office? Is he trying to make it appear as though he did absolutely no spending and should be seen as the big hero of the union . The sad thing here is people have bought into that lock, stock, and barrel. I heard Gary had been planning something like this for many months so he purposely didnt use the union card he was issued and instead asked other board members to use theirs when he wanted something . I will ask the board members myself to see if he ever did that to them ( the oh I forgot my card can you use yours ). If he did , just for the sake of trying to make himself look like a financial conservative to the membership and to slam the other guys, then that just goes to show you what kind of person 500-100 already thought he is.


If you would have bothered to ask Gary to at the meeting you would have found out that he brought all of his vouchers of his expenses while he was on the board. I know because I saw them and he did spend money, but it looks to me to be all legimate.
Tell me please just how many months did he have this inofrmation that he was so called planning to bring out? And another question. If this is true, why didnt he brng this out before the election so he could expose the thieves that supposedly are running our board?

Please, before you come on here running your mouth (possibly to cover yoru own ass ??? ) get the facts right ok?

One more question. Why didn't the board that was at our meeting bring their expense reports ro vouchers for all to see? They had plenty of time to gather them. if they are so innocent why didn't they bring them with them. And by the way why wasn't Capt. Johnson at the meeting. From what I understand he is just, if not more guilty then the rest of them.

[iwasthere]

I was at the last meeting. Vito looked flustered at all the accusations. He was unable to defend himself and unwilling as he ran out and refused to speak anymore. When I saw that, I knew he was guilty.

The axe is gonna fall boys. :cry:

I was at the last meeting. Vito looked flustered at all the accusations. He was unable to defend himself and unwilling as he ran out and refused to speak anymore. When I saw that, I knew he was guilty.

The axe is gonna fall boys. :cry:


I am glad to hear someone else saw at the meeting how HE acted. Why on Gods earth would someone viciously say " If I have to go to jail, so I go to jail" if that person is so innocent? I am a bit surprised that he di dall the talking while he was there. I mean look at the bills, he was not the only one spending that looked supsicious. Once he left GO wouldn't answer questions and what he did say sounded like he has become one of them. Why we constantly elect people that are only out for themselves is beyond comprehension.

I voted for GJ and am proud I did. I know if he was elected he would have been there for us NOT himself no matter what anyone thinks of him he is for us.
Well let the hatchet fall where it shall.
I just hope this all turns out for the betterment of all of us c/o's.

I was at the last meeting. Vito looked flustered at all the accusations. He was unable to defend himself and unwilling as he ran out and refused to speak anymore. When I saw that, I knew he was guilty.

The axe is gonna fall boys. :cry:


I am glad to hear someone else saw at the meeting how HE acted. Why on Gods earth would someone viciously say " If I have to go to jail, so I go to jail" if that person is so innocent? I am a bit surprised that he di dall the talking while he was there. I mean look at the bills, he was not the only one spending that looked supsicious. Once he left GO wouldn't answer questions and what he did say sounded like he has become one of them. Why we constantly elect people that are only out for themselves is beyond comprehension.

I voted for GJ and am proud I did. I know if he was elected he would have been there for us NOT himself no matter what anyone thinks of him he is for us.
Well let the hatchet fall where it shall.
I just hope this all turns out for the betterment of all of us c/o's.

Then you are 1 of 100 dopes, he's just trying to have you see what he wants you to see. He most certainly has a motive and that is to rile up everyone to give him their support come next election, not a bad plan, but he'll never win an election for the rest of his career no matter how many people he hoodwinked. Everyone is pissed about how long we're without a contract, the minute you put money on the table the malcontents will shut up and forget about the retarded Garys of the world and their little pity parties they throw for themselves. Its what we do .

I was at the last meeting. Vito looked flustered at all the accusations. He was unable to defend himself and unwilling as he ran out and refused to speak anymore. When I saw that, I knew he was guilty.

The axe is gonna fall boys. :cry:


I am glad to hear someone else saw at the meeting how HE acted. Why on Gods earth would someone viciously say " If I have to go to jail, so I go to jail" if that person is so innocent? I am a bit surprised that he di dall the talking while he was there. I mean look at the bills, he was not the only one spending that looked supsicious. Once he left GO wouldn't answer questions and what he did say sounded like he has become one of them. Why we constantly elect people that are only out for themselves is beyond comprehension.

I voted for GJ and am proud I did. I know if he was elected he would have been there for us NOT himself no matter what anyone thinks of him he is for us.
Well let the hatchet fall where it shall.
I just hope this all turns out for the betterment of all of us c/o's.

Then you are 1 of 100 dopes, he's just trying to have you see what he wants you to see. He most certainly has a motive and that is to rile up everyone to give him their support come next election, not a bad plan, but he'll never win an election for the rest of his career no matter how many people he hoodwinked. Everyone is pissed about how long we're without a contract, the minute you put money on the table the malcontents will shut up and forget about the retarded Garys of the world and their little pity parties they throw for themselves. Its what we do .


You must be a malcontent. If you think he has a motive other then exposing the croosk for who they are that are STEALING your dues then you are the RETARD. Why would you be so pissed at someone telling you that someone else is stealing your money? Not only tell you but prove it by showing you. You are a pathetic ignorant retard who doesn't deserve to have someone like GJ on your side. Grow up and make the ones responsible take responsibility for their actions, don't blame the one who exposes them.

[lemmetellya]

anyone know what happened to frankie boots? I posted a new topic twice regarding him and they keep removing it within 2 minutes. this guy has to have some major pull to have posts removed in 2 minutes. i wonder if anyone will even see this. it seems they are trying to keep this as hush hush as they can.

Yeah. None of your business! Is your life so pathetic that you have to worry about other peoples. Do you have a family, or hobby? Grow up and worry about you.

Yeah. None of your business! Is your life so pathetic that you have to worry about other peoples. Do you have a family, or hobby? Grow up and worry about you.


Typical answer. I wonder what happened to Boots. I dont know. Akk I know is they stripped him of hsi weapons, he is banned from entering the facilities and working on the Transition team. Now what a bunch of crap that is huh? Anyone else woul dhave been suspended for whatever he did (taking hsi weapons away and banning him from the facilities warrants a suspension) however, since he licks Demarcos bopots I guess thsi will all be kept hush hush. What a peice of crap he is anyway.
SO og to hell with your stupid answer. Why dotn you get a life? By teh way Is this you Frankie?

Yeah. None of your business! Is your life so pathetic that you have to worry about other peoples. Do you have a family, or hobby? Grow up and worry about you.


ok frankie chill out and have another slice of pizza

Yeah. None of your business! Is your life so pathetic that you have to worry about other peoples. Do you have a family, or hobby? Grow up and worry about you.


Typical answer. I wonder what happened to Boots. I dont know. Akk I know is they stripped him of hsi weapons, he is banned from entering the facilities and working on the Transition team. Now what a bunch of crap that is huh? Anyone else woul dhave been suspended for whatever he did (taking hsi weapons away and banning him from the facilities warrants a suspension) however, since he licks Demarcos bopots I guess thsi will all be kept hush hush. What a peice of crap he is anyway.
SO og to hell with your stupid answer. Why dotn you get a life? By teh way Is this you Frankie?

Major pull? You call the elevator pull?
Anyway, no one knows for sure what happened so cut the guy some slack. If he is found to be innocent of any wrong doing, spewing crap about him here is not going to help the situation. If that were you, would you want people bad mouthing you about some sort of "allegation"? Like the guy or not, he deserves a little respect in this situation. I would hope others would do the same for you.

Yeah. None of your business! Is your life so pathetic that you have to worry about other peoples. Do you have a family, or hobby? Grow up and worry about you.


Typical answer. I wonder what happened to Boots. I dont know. Akk I know is they stripped him of hsi weapons, he is banned from entering the facilities and working on the Transition team. Now what a bunch of crap that is huh? Anyone else woul dhave been suspended for whatever he did (taking hsi weapons away and banning him from the facilities warrants a suspension) however, since he licks Demarcos bopots I guess thsi will all be kept hush hush. What a peice of crap he is anyway.
SO og to hell with your stupid answer. Why dotn you get a life? By teh way Is this you Frankie?

Major pull? You call the elevator pull?
Anyway, no one knows for sure what happened so cut the guy some slack. If he is found to be innocent of any wrong doing, spewing crap about him here is not going to help the situation. If that were you, would you want people bad mouthing you about some sort of "allegation"? Like the guy or not, he deserves a little respect in this situation. I would hope others would do the same for you.


Well Mr Frankie friend, do you know what happened? If so let us know. Otherwise keep your mouth shut.

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Yeah. None of your business! Is your life so pathetic that you have to worry about other peoples. Do you have a family, or hobby? Grow up and worry about you.



Typical answer. I wonder what happened to Boots. I dont know. Akk I know is they stripped him of hsi weapons, he is banned from entering the facilities and working on the Transition team. Now what a bunch of crap that is huh? Anyone else woul dhave been suspended for whatever he did (taking hsi weapons away and banning him from the facilities warrants a suspension) however, since he licks Demarcos bopots I guess thsi will all be kept hush hush. What a peice of crap he is anyway.
SO og to hell with your stupid answer. Why dotn you get a life? By teh way Is this you Frankie?


Major pull? You call the elevator pull?
Anyway, no one knows for sure what happened so cut the guy some slack. If he is found to be innocent of any wrong doing, spewing crap about him here is not going to help the situation. If that were you, would you want people bad mouthing you about some sort of "allegation"? Like the guy or not, he deserves a little respect in this situation. I would hope others would do the same for you.



Well Mr Frankie friend, do you know what happened? If so let us know. Otherwise keep your mouth shut.



Keep your mouth shut about something you know nothing about. Hope it never hapenns to you. Allegations are only that, allegations.

[civpat]

someone that works up front said they heard boots crying loudly in the wardens office just after they escorted him off his post and that they felt bad for him. They said he was crying so loud and non stop that they almost had to call medical for help. No one should have to go through that especially if he didn't do anything. I feel bad for him. :cry:

As a CO, I am ashamed of the assholes I work with. I could only hope all the assholes I do work with who have so much negativity to speak of , quit, and find a much better job that makes them happy and keeps them from speaking poorly of those in the thankless position of trying to make a positive difference for those of us who appreciate our job.

OR in the very thankless position of not Giving A Sh*t to the benefit of all. And I truly do mean to the benefit of all because if we really did give a sh*t the overwhelming majority of you would cease to be so well accomodated, or even tolerated, and would either get jacked up on a daily basis or shown the door.

As a CO, I am ashamed of the assholes I work with. I could only hope all the assholes I do work with who have so much negativity to speak of , quit, and find a much better job that makes them happy and keeps them from speaking poorly of those in the thankless position of trying to make a positive difference for those of us who appreciate our job.

OR in the very thankless position of not Giving A Sh*t to the benefit of all. And I truly do mean to the benefit of all because if we really did give a sh*t the overwhelming majority of you would cease to be so well accomodated, or even tolerated, and would either get jacked up on a daily basis or shown the door.
what does this have to do with frankie boots? what exactly did boots do or does anyone know what they say he did? I also heard he was crying loud. does anyone know if he's ok?

In Yaphank, we get jacked up on a daily basis.

Yes I heard he was upset, but what C/O isn't with no raise for 51 months and basically deplorable working conditions...On an up note, there were tacos in the mess hall, but no guacamole, which was somewhat disappointing http://ourfunlife.typepad.com/our_fun_life/images/guacamole_1.jpg

Boy you people shure know hwo to forget about what was the real topic on here for the last two weeks. UNION SPENDING. Forget about Frankie Botos, DON"T forget about how our unoin reps are spending our dues money.

[DeMarco's Appointees]

who are the appointees and who are the consultants?

Boy you people shure know hwo to forget about what was the real topic on here for the last two weeks. UNION SPENDING. Forget about Frankie Botos, DON"T forget about how our unoin reps are spending our dues money.

no way we want DIRT we are like women..........we want to know!!!!

Boy you people shure know hwo to forget about what was the real topic on here for the last two weeks. UNION SPENDING. Forget about Frankie Botos, DON"T forget about how our unoin reps are spending our dues money.


Maybe, if you spent a little less time trying to find out rumors that dont concern you, you could free up some time to learn how to spell.

I was told that Newsday is breaking a story about theft in our union. So expect that someone MAY be led out in cuffs very soon.

I was told that Newsday is breaking a story about theft in our union. So expect that someone MAY be led out in cuffs very soon.

sure they are........right..........i heard aliens landed, kidnapped steve levy and told him to give us 20% for 4 years :lol:

People all complained for a couple of weeks about Vito and his exhorbitant spending. Now people have already forgotten. We are so used to being knocked down that we don't even bother fighting anymore....No OT and no raise for 51 months, thieves for union reps....and lastly no guacamole in the mess hall...http://www.losmayas.com/images/appetizers/Full_image/guacamole_fresco.jpg

So right. It totaly amazes me how soon and quickly we forget about people steeling from us. What a shame, what a shame.

so tisch as still lost control of his department???????


can somebody who registered to the site PLEASE start a new thread..........and title it corrections ramblings or something......

so tisch as still lost control of his department???????


can somebody who registered to the 9999999999999999 PLEASE start a new thread..........and title it corrections ramblings or something......

Name it: "Frankie Boots and the women he has loved" or "Vito and his new jail cell" or ahh forget it. Let's just stay here.

How about "Vito and his Six Foot Hero"...or maybe "How we became the lowest paid Corrections Dept"
http://www.littlekingsubs.com/images/sixfoot400px.jpg

How about "Vito and his Six Foot Hero"...or maybe "How we became the lowest paid Corrections Dept"
http://www.littlekingsubs.com/images/sixfoot400px.jpg


VERY VERY appropriate. I like it

so tisch as still lost control of his department???????


can somebody who registered to the 9999999999999999 PLEASE start a new thread..........and title it corrections ramblings or something......

Name it: "Frankie Boots and the women he has loved" or "Vito and his new jail cell" or ahh forget it. Let's just stay here.

OR B-CREW HOLDING PEN RULES!!!!!!! :lol: :lol:

[Happy C/O]

I was told that Newsday is breaking a story about theft in our union. So expect that someone MAY be led out in cuffs very soon.

Can't happen quick enough for me. When it does I hope all of you jerks out there appologize to GJ for talking shit about him. You should also consider appologizing and thankign GB also. I mean he got it started.
I'm so Happy, So Happy, So Happy, So, Happy.
You will see

The more things change the more they stay the same...rumor has it ms. B got a job at the academy...Also a few C/O's and their bosses went to ultra secret hostage negotiation school this week...Another hush hush lets take care of our boys thing. The only legit guy in the group is Doc, but he's only been a Sgt for one week. Gym Housing is down to three officers and one has to be locked in there all the time. This isn't minimum security Yaphank, its Max Riverhead. Also the outside officer has only 25% visibilty into the gym so how is he supposed to watch that officer....Assaults against C/o's is up...If an officer gets hurt its "oh well part of the job", but if an inmate gets hurt its monday morning quarterback time. New weapons (asp/mace) that other agencies had 100 years ago, but DO NOT use them or once again "Monday morning QB"..And of course NO RAISE FOR 51 MONTHS....And where is our union in all this...getting fatter on our dime. But dont blame it on me I didnt vote for that S**tbag....NO OT at all....Look at the jobs posted on Suffolk COunty Civil Service website and you'll find plenty that surpass ours in terms of salary. Hell the SCPD starting salary is only $5K less than our top pay....What a friggin joke...To all the people who managed to scam 3/4's, I say "way to go"...

What are you talking about? The Gym housing officer that is never in there?
The new smoking lounge at YAphank? Yes thats right, Kathy King Kong has turned that into the new smoking lounge.

Careful guy, you start making sense like that and you'll be in a heap o' manure! Next thing you know somebody else with a little honesty and integrity will call for an investigation of Vito and his spending.

"THE SIX FOOT HERO LIVES" !

The more things change the more they stay the same...rumor has it ms. B got a job at the academy...Also a few C/O's and their bosses went to ultra secret hostage negotiation school this week...Another hush hush lets take care of our boys thing. The only legit guy in the group is Doc, but he's only been a Sgt for one week. Gym Housing is down to three officers and one has to be locked in there all the time. This isn't minimum security Yaphank, its Max Riverhead. Also the outside officer has only 25% visibilty into the gym so how is he supposed to watch that officer....Assaults against C/o's is up...If an officer gets hurt its "oh well part of the job", but if an inmate gets hurt its monday morning quarterback time. New weapons (asp/mace) that other agencies had 100 years ago, but DO NOT use them or once again "Monday morning QB"..And of course NO RAISE FOR 51 MONTHS....And where is our union in all this...getting fatter on our dime. But dont blame it on me I didnt vote for that S**tbag....NO OT at all....Look at the jobs posted on Suffolk COunty Civil Service website and you'll find plenty that surpass ours in terms of salary. Hell the SCPD starting salary is only $5K less than our top pay....What a friggin joke...To all the people who managed to scam 3/4's, I say "way to go"...


Try to get a hold of Vito to tell him whats going on and guesst what? Find him at some golf club eating lunch. Yeah you heard me GOLF CLUB eating lunch. Go figure. You would think the guy and other board members are being investigated and you think they would cut the crap. But No (to use his own aords) he thinks he is untouchable. But wait, just wait and see how untouchable he ISN'T.
They dont give a hoot about what happens in the jail. They don't have to work there but we do.0 I just wish he ha dlost. Then we at least would have an HONEST person on that board.

Ms. B got the job at the academy because she was THE MOST QUALIFED. PERIOD. I've been friends of their family for many many years and I think she deserves a break. If your father helped you get ahead a little in life that'd be just fine right? But because a black woman gets something all of a sudden it's a problem right? The Sheriff's office is going to change whether you like it or not. It's about time you people learn to change with it or get another job. maybe somewhere less colorful?

GROWUP!

The more things change the more they stay the same...rumor has it ms. B got a job at the academy...Also a few C/O's and their bosses went to ultra secret hostage negotiation school this week...Another hush hush lets take care of our boys thing. The only legit guy in the group is Doc, but he's only been a Sgt for one week. Gym Housing is down to three officers and one has to be locked in there all the time. This isn't minimum security Yaphank, its Max Riverhead. Also the outside officer has only 25% visibilty into the gym so how is he supposed to watch that officer....Assaults against C/o's is up...If an officer gets hurt its "oh well part of the job", but if an inmate gets hurt its monday morning quarterback time. New weapons (asp/mace) that other agencies had 100 years ago, but DO NOT use them or once again "Monday morning QB"..And of course NO RAISE FOR 51 MONTHS....And where is our union in all this...getting fatter on our dime. But dont blame it on me I didnt vote for that S**tbag....NO OT at all....Look at the jobs posted on Suffolk COunty Civil Service website and you'll find plenty that surpass ours in terms of salary. Hell the SCPD starting salary is only $5K less than our top pay....What a friggin joke...To all the people who managed to scam 3/4's, I say "way to go"...

I offered a suggestion that would rid us of most of these issues. Meger with the Deputies. Yes, it would be hard on some at first but the long run will be far better then what we have now.

Ms. B got the job at the academy because she was THE MOST QUALIFED. PERIOD. I've been friends of their family for many many years and I think she deserves a break. If your father helped you get ahead a little in life that'd be just fine right? But because a black woman gets something all of a sudden it's a problem right? The Sheriff's office is going to change whether you like it or not. It's about time you people learn to change with it or get another job. maybe somewhere less colorful?

GROWUP!


MOST QUALIFIED ARE YOU KIDDING??????????????

1. WTF HAPPANED TO SENORITY

2. HOW THE PHUCK IS SHE GONNA TEACH P.T. i bet she can't even do one pushup...................

Ms. B got the job at the academy because she was THE MOST QUALIFED. PERIOD. I've been friends of their family for many many years and I think she deserves a break. If your father helped you get ahead a little in life that'd be just fine right? But because a black woman gets something all of a sudden it's a problem right? The Sheriff's office is going to change whether you like it or not. It's about time you people learn to change with it or get another job. maybe somewhere less colorful?

GROWUP!

Well I gather you are just as dopey as her and her family. You say you are friends of her family? Well then explain how HE gets away with everything he does. Blue tooth phone in his ear all over the jail? Walking around talking to whoever whenever he wants? TV for inmates in the work area? ONLY people of color as haircutters? OVERTIME that is so obvious when no one else can get any? Oh come on. Tell me that is deserving? She is only on the job a couple years and thinks who the hell she is. Mind you, she knows nothing will happen to her because her DADDY pays the sheriff as well as being a person of color and thanks to the Aide To The Sheriff (who will remain nameless although you all know who he is) all people of color I gather can do NO WRONG and do whatever they want. Well I am SICK AND TIRED OF IT. There are people more senior than her and her daddy who deserve better positions then he and she. Both of them should be totaly ashamed of themselves shitting on their so called co workers. For gods sake man look at what happened in the medical dept a few years ago with poeple of color and one of our own Uncolor officers. One person of color lied about an incident and the officer of Uncolor was brought to IAD and tortured for over a year. When it was found that he was innocent what did they do to the person of color for writing a FALSE statement? NOTHING, NADA, ZILCH, NOT A DAM THING and do you want to know why? I will tell you it is because they are SCARED of the POEPLE OF COLOR thats why. That officer should have been FIRED < FIRED< FIRED yes you read it FIRED.
And the officer of UNCOLOR should have sued the dam pants off the officer of color, but when I told him so he said it is over and done with. He wouldnt go after the moron who put him and his family thorough al that crap for over a year. Now that is a stand up guy. If ti were me I would have sued that b _ _ _ _ _ D for everydam cent he is worth if he was worth anything monetary wise cause he isnt worth a dam otherwise.
I di dnot write thsi to ne negative although it may sound that way to you. I just want people to know what really oges on in that shithole we call work. And another thing. The UNION wouldn't do anythign regarding the person of color who wrote the false statement abotu another (Uncolor) officer. So we are all on our own.
Think before you do something especially if it concerns a person of COLOR.

[guest7]

Was there even an opening or a posting for a job at the academy. She has 5 minutes on the job. Deserving I don't think so.

[guest8]

Just what is she most qualified in?
Is she IDC trained?
Is she trained in ASP or defensive tactics?
Is she trained to teach CPR First aid AED?
Is she suicide prevention trained instructor?
Is she an instructor in fire arms or chemical agents?
No I don;t think any of the above.
Plenty of others are trained in all of the above as instructors with way more time on the job then the few years she has.
Total bullshit. This has nothing to do with race has to do with seniority and qualifications which she has none of the above.

Just what is she most qualified in?
Is she IDC trained?
Is she trained in ASP or defensive tactics?
Is she trained to teach CPR First aid AED?
Is she suicide prevention trained instructor?
Is she an instructor in fire arms or chemical agents?
No I don;t think any of the above.
Plenty of others are trained in all of the above as instructors with way more time on the job then the few years she has.
Total bullshit. This has nothing to do with race has to do with seniority and qualifications which she has none of the above.

Well the flip side to that coin would be, for arguements sake, she has all those qualifications you mentioned above. What would the next bitch session be? She may be more qualified than anyone else BUT because she is junior she doesn't deserve the job? You phucksticks who think badge entitles you to everything is what makes this job a joke. "Hey I have 18 years on I deserve to be in an active job, who cares if I'm 75lbs overweight and look like a bag of shiit, I have seniority dammit!" Now where's my french cries and whaaaamburger. I laugh at you phucks...

Well the flip side to that coin would be, for arguements sake, she has all those qualifications you mentioned above. What would the next bitch session be? She may be more qualified than anyone else BUT because she is junior she doesn't deserve the job? You phucksticks who think badge entitles you to everything is what makes this job a joke. "Hey I have 18 years on I deserve to be in an active job, who cares if I'm 75lbs overweight and look like a bag of shiit, I have seniority dammit!" Now where's my french cries and whaaaamburger. I laugh at you phucks...

This is just blatant racism and jealousy that's all. For too long the Sheriff's department has been a fat white boys club and now that the clubs face color is changing, they are getting angry. Well you know what? sheriff Demarco is a good man for changing it and giving people a chance. people that should have had a chance a long time ago but couldnt because of the racism and jealousy that we are reading here. you all think that Alex isn't doing the right thing? Well let me tell you something. HE IS A GOOD MAN. and he deserves everything he has because he WORKED HARD FOR IT and that something you all no nothing about. The sheriff likes Alex as a friend, and friends help each other and THAT'S ALL.

STOP HATING ON PEOPLE because you are gonna make your self sick over it and nothing is gonna be different.

I don't know if Alex has earned what he gets or not, but all appearances are that he has not. The "face" of the Correction Division has been the same shade as the general population for years, so there is nothing new there. But since Sheriff DeMarco is such a good man for changing it (and since he hasn't changed a thing) perhaps you would like to get together with your hero and look at the face of the Deputy Sheriffs. Awfully pale, isn't it?

And you characters getting after Ms B, what are you dopes talking about? Did you, or did you not, see the recent posting that informed you that if you had a bachelors degree in education, or a masters, you could be certified as an instructor without taking the IDC. Ms B is a qualified teacher, therefore exempt from the IDC requirement. That is all. No Academy assignment, No other special treatment. At least know what you are talking about before you get diarrhea of the mouth.

I don't know if Alex has earned what he gets or not, but all appearances are that he has not. The "face" of the Correction Division has been the same shade as the general population for years, so there is nothing new there. But since Sheriff DeMarco is such a good man for changing it (and since he hasn't changed a thing) perhaps you would like to get together with your hero and look at the face of the Deputy Sheriffs. Awfully pale, isn't it?

And you characters getting after Ms B, what are you dopes talking about? Did you, or did you not, see the recent posting that informed you that if you had a bachelors degree in education, or a masters, you could be certified as an instructor without taking the IDC. Ms B is a qualified teacher, therefore exempt from the IDC requirement. That is all. No Academy assignment, No other special treatment. At least know what you are talking about before you get diarrhea of the mouth.

Stop comparing us to the Deputy Sheriffs. Whenever we are not happy about ourselfs we look out the window at the Deputies. Do you think they look at us or care about us? We are Correction Officers, we are NOT Deputiy Sheriffs. Be proud of what we are and stop looking at others.

Jesus H. Why oh why dont we just concern ourselves with our problems. Did we all forget about our union robbing us? I just can't wait to se ehow many people show up at this month's meeting and say NOTHING about that. Or are you pukes going to be there and DEMAND answers and proof be brought to the meeting to show the spending is legit or not? Man oh man how quickly we forget what happens to us other then NO CONTRACT. I am just as upset about nto having a raise since Jan 2003, but that has nothing to do with the spending that is being done by our board that is illegal. COme to the meetign and back your fellow officers who have the balls to bring that issue to light.

Jesus H. Why oh why dont we just concern ourselves with our problems. Did we all forget about our union robbing us? I just can't wait to se ehow many people show up at this month's meeting and say NOTHING about that. Or are you pukes going to be there and DEMAND answers and proof be brought to the meeting to show the spending is legit or not? Man oh man how quickly we forget what happens to us other then NO CONTRACT. I am just as upset about nto having a raise since Jan 2003, but that has nothing to do with the spending that is being done by our board that is illegal. COme to the meetign and back your fellow officers who have the balls to bring that issue to light.

How is your vacation GAry B?

Jesus H. Why oh why dont we just concern ourselves with our problems. Did we all forget about our union robbing us? I just can't wait to se ehow many people show up at this month's meeting and say NOTHING about that. Or are you pukes going to be there and DEMAND answers and proof be brought to the meeting to show the spending is legit or not? Man oh man how quickly we forget what happens to us other then NO CONTRACT. I am just as upset about nto having a raise since Jan 2003, but that has nothing to do with the spending that is being done by our board that is illegal. COme to the meetign and back your fellow officers who have the balls to bring that issue to light.

No one cares. Why? Because those guys work hard, dedicate their lives to our profession, get paid alot less the a rotating guy and if they take their wives out once in a while or put gas in a fimily vehicle once a month then so be it. They have our best interest in mind and if a couple of bucks is going to keep them happy then I say (and most of us as well) let them do what they want.

geez. it's unbelievable that some people would go after the hand that feeds.

Jesus H. Why oh why dont we just concern ourselves with our problems. Did we all forget about our union robbing us? I just can't wait to se ehow many people show up at this month's meeting and say NOTHING about that. Or are you pukes going to be there and DEMAND answers and proof be brought to the meeting to show the spending is legit or not? Man oh man how quickly we forget what happens to us other then NO CONTRACT. I am just as upset about nto having a raise since Jan 2003, but that has nothing to do with the spending that is being done by our board that is illegal. COme to the meetign and back your fellow officers who have the balls to bring that issue to light.

No one cares. Why? Because those guys work hard, dedicate their lives to our profession, get paid alot less the a rotating guy and if they take their wives out once in a while or put gas in a fimily vehicle once a month then so be it. They have our best interest in mind and if a couple of bucks is going to keep them happy then I say (and most of us as well) let them do what they want.

geez. it's unbelievable that some people would go after the hand that feeds.


GEEZ The only thing those hands feed are THEMSELVES. I can't beleive we allow them to continue doing what they do. If it were once in a while I don't think any of us would mind. BUt di dyou take a goo dlook at the expenses and the absurd explanation for them? Di dyou see the prez walk out o fthe meeting because he couldn't answer questions asked of him? What a loaf he is and I bet that if you go back far enough you will find much much more.
ANd by the way they do not make less then rotating shifts. Curt made midnight pay plus all the stipends and so do the others. They make rotating pay plus stipends plus car, gas and I guess whatever they can eat. SO dont give me that crap about them makign less then us for I am sure if you check they make much much more then us. And for working so hard for us? WOW. All we see is they work hard for themselves. Grow up and see the light. They are killing us. I mean what di dthey do about the gym housing staf fbeing cut? NOTING.
Please spare me the garbage. face it we are just afraid of change and until we get over that fear and give someone else a shot at helping us we will be forever screwed and treated like garbage.

Jesus H. Why oh why dont we just concern ourselves with our problems. Did we all forget about our union robbing us? I just can't wait to se ehow many people show up at this month's meeting and say NOTHING about that. Or are you pukes going to be there and DEMAND answers and proof be brought to the meeting to show the spending is legit or not? Man oh man how quickly we forget what happens to us other then NO CONTRACT. I am just as upset about nto having a raise since Jan 2003, but that has nothing to do with the spending that is being done by our board that is illegal. COme to the meetign and back your fellow officers who have the balls to bring that issue to light.

No one cares. Why? Because those guys work hard, dedicate their lives to our profession, get paid alot less the a rotating guy and if they take their wives out once in a while or put gas in a fimily vehicle once a month then so be it. They have our best interest in mind and if a couple of bucks is going to keep them happy then I say (and most of us as well) let them do what they want.

geez. it's unbelievable that some people would go after the hand that feeds.


GEEZ The only thing those hands feed are THEMSELVES. I can't beleive we allow them to continue doing what they do. If it were once in a while I don't think any of us would mind. BUt di dyou take a goo dlook at the expenses and the absurd explanation for them? Di dyou see the prez walk out o fthe meeting because he couldn't answer questions asked of him? What a loaf he is and I bet that if you go back far enough you will find much much more.
ANd by the way they do not make less then rotating shifts. Curt made midnight pay plus all the stipends and so do the others. They make rotating pay plus stipends plus car, gas and I guess whatever they can eat. SO dont give me that crap about them makign less then us for I am sure if you check they make much much more then us. And for working so hard for us? WOW. All we see is they work hard for themselves. Grow up and see the light. They are killing us. I mean what di dthey do about the gym housing staf fbeing cut? NOTING.
Please spare me the garbage. face it we are just afraid of change and until we get over that fear and give someone else a shot at helping us we will be forever screwed and treated like garbage.




Ms.B is deserving????/I guess you never saw her work,or should i say not work.This is total bullsh2t!!!!1That posting was put up there with them knowing she had a degree in teaching.Now no one can say there wasnt a posting.Cmon.....there are much more qualified officers who at least come to WORK everyday.By work i mean officers who actually do their jobs not spend their entire shift on the phone or the computer looking up male inmates.Absolutely Friggan pathetic!!!!!!!

Dude...you really need to learn how to spell.

Dude...you really need to learn how to spell.

dude, you need to quit your job and become a teacher if it bothers you that much.........

so let me spell this out for you



G_ F_CK Y__RS_LF

And that's far too little said...

There are times when I think you really need to keep the faith. Personally, I see this as a perfect opportunity for a bright, educated, young lady. And I say this because there are few among us that are also liberal minded enough to believe that they might actually aid in the on-the-job education of the average blockhead.

While it may be true that only her haircutter knows for sure, it nonetheless appears (and yes appears IS a big word in Corrections) that she has far more faith in faith than you or I.

I've given her an A for effort. As for the UNCOLORED people, most of them have never even taken the test. So go screw yourselves.

Ms B is still working the N1 dorm station like she always does. She is not at the academy. Stop making up lies.

Jesus H. Why oh why dont we just concern ourselves with our problems. Did we all forget about our union robbing us? I just can't wait to se ehow many people show up at this month's meeting and say NOTHING about that. Or are you pukes going to be there and DEMAND answers and proof be brought to the meeting to show the spending is legit or not? Man oh man how quickly we forget what happens to us other then NO CONTRACT. I am just as upset about nto having a raise since Jan 2003, but that has nothing to do with the spending that is being done by our board that is illegal. COme to the meetign and back your fellow officers who have the balls to bring that issue to light.


I dont think anyone should be at this months meeting looking for proof to be brought to the meeting. If you would stop shouting and actually paid attention, I believe, Vito made it very clear that the vouchers would be at the office. Make an appointment if you want to see them, or if you have the balls.... I did, and I have no problem with the expenditures. As far as gym housing, yeah it sucks. WHo do we have to thank.... The officers who are assigned there and not doing there job when the Captain comes around. DO your job a**holes. Nothing more, nothing less!

Can I make a suggestion?

We are four years without a contract. Why not settle a contract for the fiist two? Why let the County stall us for another year?

Probation settled a contract that is not far off from what the Deputies got. We could still go to arbitration but we will have two years settled. I don't know about you but I sure could use that money.

Why not settle those years? It is only two years.

Dude...you really need to learn how to spell.


this was obviously not directed at the post to which this followed...and if it was.....your a Moron.

This is just blatant racism and jealousy that's all. For too long the Sheriff's department has been a fat white boys club and now that the clubs face color is changing, they are getting angry. Well you know what? sheriff Demarco is a good man for changing it and giving people a chance. people that should have had a chance a long time ago but couldnt because of the racism and jealousy that we are reading here. you all think that Alex isn't doing the right thing? Well let me tell you something. HE IS A GOOD MAN. and he deserves everything he has because he WORKED HARD FOR IT and that something you all no nothing about. The sheriff likes Alex as a friend, and friends help each other and THAT'S ALL.

STOP HATING ON PEOPLE because you are gonna make your self sick over it and nothing is gonna be different.
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Anonymous wrote:
I don't know if Alex has earned what he gets or not, but all appearances are that he has not. The "face" of the Correction Division has been the same shade as the general population for years, so there is nothing new there. But since Sheriff DeMarco is such a good man for changing it (and since he hasn't changed a thing) perhaps you would like to get together with your hero and look at the face of the Deputy Sheriffs. Awfully pale, isn't it?

And you characters getting after Ms B, what are you dopes talking about? Did you, or did you not, see the recent posting that informed you that if you had a bachelors degree in education, or a masters, you could be certified as an instructor without taking the IDC. Ms B is a qualified teacher, therefore exempt from the IDC requirement. That is all. No Academy assignment, No other special treatment. At least know what you are talking about before you get diarrhea of the mouth.
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Stop comparing us to the Deputy Sheriffs. Whenever we are not happy about ourselfs we look out the window at the Deputies. Do you think they look at us or care about us? We are Correction Officers, we are NOT Deputiy Sheriffs. Be proud of what we are and stop looking at others.


Hey Moron,

Who's comparing us to the Deputies? Good God, I work with some dumb people. The point is, someone said that the "face" of the Office is changing. Well, for us it is not. We have always had the same percentage of black officers as the population of Suffolk County. And they have always been very well represented in our upper ranks. Heck, some of them did a few things that would certainly preclude the UNCOLORED among us from promotion.

Now, the poster's self proclaimed "good man" is credited for increasing minority representation in the Sheriff's Office (which has not required changing). But the OTHER side of the Sheriff's Office, now that's a different story. What is there? One black Deputy? Maybe a hispanic or two? The "good man" should be addressing the lack of minority representation on the Dep side, not hiring some black female civilian to increase C/O minority percentage.

It reminds me of the NYC Fire Department. They were getting some heat for the lack of minorities and women, so what do they do? Merge with EMS, and viola, lots of minorities and women. Does this indicate the intention of increasing minorities on the C/O side to make the Office on a whole appear to have the same percentage of blacks in the County population? You decide.

[We all bleed red]

Off course your going to have more minorities in the Correction side of the Sheriff's Department it is a lower level job that is easier to get.
As you pointed out FDNY merged with a lower level job, EMS. NYPD has Police Administrative Aides. NYC Correction has more minorities then both NYPD and FDNY combined.
With that said let me ask you a question; How come your such a racist? Does working with someone that has a different skin color scare you?
Maybe you should stop wearing that ugly cowboy hat to work and wear your whitehood.
Tip: you can get better gas milage in your pickup truck if you remove the shotgun and take off the confederate flag.

That is quite a leap, Mr Deputy. Corrections is not a "lower level job that is easier to get." The requirements are the same, the investigators are the same.

As far as whether I am a racist or not, that is not the point. You are attempting to deflect the discussion. (And just to satisfy your b.s. statement, I am not afraid of working with anyone. Every job I have ever held has employed minorities of every kind. That was not the point. I have also lived and worked in areas with a substantially higher percentage of minority residents, and I worked with whoever was hired.)

The entire point, other than the one on top of your head, was that the previous poster claimed that someone was changing the face of the Sheriff's Office for the better, but it isn't true. That is the point. It isn't true.

That is quite a leap, Mr Deputy. Corrections is not a "lower level job that is easier to get." The requirements are the same, the investigators are the same.

As far as whether I am a racist or not, that is not the point. You are attempting to deflect the discussion. (And just to satisfy your b.s. statement, I am not afraid of working with anyone. Every job I have ever held has employed minorities of every kind. That was not the point. I have also lived and worked in areas with a substantially higher percentage of minority residents, and I worked with whoever was hired.)

The entire point, other than the one on top of your head, was that the previous poster claimed that someone was changing the face of the Sheriff's Office for the better, but it isn't true. That is the point. It isn't true.

The truth is actually that you are a racist.

Also the requirments are not the same. A C/O canidate does not have to have a valid drivers license, is not required to carry a weapon, does not have to graduate from the police academy, has a far easier entrances exam, does not have as rigorous a psychological, ect, ect.

Sometime today news will come out about a major raid out east. The case started by undercover Deputies. Like it or not you do not have the same job.

That is quite a leap, Mr Deputy. Corrections is not a "lower level job that is easier to get." The requirements are the same, the investigators are the same.

As far as whether I am a racist or not, that is not the point. You are attempting to deflect the discussion. (And just to satisfy your b.s. statement, I am not afraid of working with anyone. Every job I have ever held has employed minorities of every kind. That was not the point. I have also lived and worked in areas with a substantially higher percentage of minority residents, and I worked with whoever was hired.)

The entire point, other than the one on top of your head, was that the previous poster claimed that someone was changing the face of the Sheriff's Office for the better, but it isn't true. That is the point. It isn't true.

The truth is actually that you are a racist.

Also the requirments are not the same. A C/O canidate does not have to have a valid drivers license, is not required to carry a weapon, does not have to graduate from the police academy, has a far easier entrances exam, does not have as rigorous a psychological, ect, ect.

Sometime today news will come out about a major raid out east. The case started by undercover Deputies. Like it or not you do not have the same job.




Whether you want to admit it or not....your remarks were the only racist remarks i read.By saying "of course corrections has more minorities because it it a lower level job",you are identifying your racist belief that minorities couldnt qualify or work at your level.As far as the entrance and psychological exams for corrections and deputy,the only difference is the polygraph.I agree with you however on the two jobs being different.Entry level deps do most of the similar jobs as corrections but once they have some time and seniority they actually make out quite well with advancing to more police type functions.

That is quite a leap, Mr Deputy. Corrections is not a "lower level job that is easier to get." The requirements are the same, the investigators are the same.

As far as whether I am a racist or not, that is not the point. You are attempting to deflect the discussion. (And just to satisfy your b.s. statement, I am not afraid of working with anyone. Every job I have ever held has employed minorities of every kind. That was not the point. I have also lived and worked in areas with a substantially higher percentage of minority residents, and I worked with whoever was hired.)

The entire point, other than the one on top of your head, was that the previous poster claimed that someone was changing the face of the Sheriff's Office for the better, but it isn't true. That is the point. It isn't true.

The truth is actually that you are a racist.

Also the requirments are not the same. A C/O canidate does not have to have a valid drivers license, is not required to carry a weapon, does not have to graduate from the police academy, has a far easier entrances exam, does not have as rigorous a psychological, ect, ect.

Sometime today news will come out about a major raid out east. The case started by undercover Deputies. Like it or not you do not have the same job.




Whether you want to admit it or not....your remarks were the only racist remarks i read.By saying "of course corrections has more minorities because it it a lower level job",you are identifying your racist belief that minorities couldnt qualify or work at your level.As far as the entrance and psychological exams for corrections and deputy,the only difference is the 999999999999.I agree with you however on the two jobs being different.Entry level deps do most of the similar jobs as corrections but once they have some time and seniority they actually make out quite well with advancing to more police type functions.

Rookie Deputies do not do the same or similar jobs as C/Os. C/O don't transport inmates and many other jobs that newer Deputies perform. But a C/O whether he/she is new or old all do the same job inside the jail.

As to my remarks being racist that is the furthest from the truth, Facts cannot be racist. It is a fact that lower lever jobs such as correction jobs attract and hire more minorities. I never said that anyone could or could not base a test, exam or any other matter of exam. You made that jump.
I will not pretend to have the answers as to why this happens. I would venture a guess that demographics, social injustice, affirmative action and other issues contribute.

A shout out to the great work done by the team of Deputies who spent the better part of a year working undercover for the Shinnecock case. Also to the teams that executed all the warrants and raids today! Great job guys and gals!

[Fed Up with the BS]

I'm not sure why you are all on here, (a public forum), airing the problems and concerns of our Department / Office / whatever? The mechanism by which people advance within the Sheriff's Office is well known and while in theory it changes every fours years, or at least with every new Sheriff, there are no hard statistical data to support any of the statements that ANY OF YOU have made. So you are basing your OPINIONS on nothing but rumor, innuendo and your own narrow view of the world.

Some of you are racists I will agree, but there are racists in every race, creed and color. Racism is not exclusive to one color, or one religion, or any one group. The person who made comments about the pick up truck, or the rebel flag is just as much a racist as the guy who somehow thought minorities should do better on the C/O test because it was easier, etc.
These guys are racist because they draw a conclusion based on nothing but what they have seen, ie: the guy drives a truck he is a rredneck and a racist etc.

As far as I am concerned there is no clear cut way to seperate who should be promoted and who shouldn't. The guy you think is a schmuck might very well have some apealing quality to the boss making the decision. I think jealousy, hatred, and an inability to accept people who are different from yourself is the single key factor involved here.

In any case - keep this crap off the net - it only stands to diminish the value
of ALL of our jobs.

Good post but most of the guys I work with don't care about what is posted here or elsewhere. As far as the rascists - whatever their color - there is no room for them within our ranks any longer.

I agree. It is amazing how many people think that racism can only occur when an anglo person is the racist. I have actually been told this by others. There is no place for the hatred that racism always brings with it, but it is always ever present in my mind when these conversations strike up - that anyone can be the racist.

Good post though !

I'm not sure why you are all on here, (a public forum), airing the problems and concerns of our Department / Office / whatever? The mechanism by which people advance within the Sheriff's Office is well known and while in theory it changes every fours years, or at least with every new Sheriff, there are no hard statistical data to support any of the statements that ANY OF YOU have made. So you are basing your OPINIONS on nothing but rumor, innuendo and your own narrow view of the world.

Some of you are racists I will agree, but there are racists in every race, creed and color. Racism is not exclusive to one color, or one religion, or any one group. The person who made comments about the pick up truck, or the rebel flag is just as much a racist as the guy who somehow thought minorities should do better on the C/O test because it was easier, etc.
These guys are racist because they draw a conclusion based on nothing but what they have seen, ie: the guy drives a truck he is a rredneck and a racist etc.

As far as I am concerned there is no clear cut way to seperate who should be promoted and who shouldn't. The guy you think is a schmuck might very well have some apealing quality to the boss making the decision. I think jealousy, hatred, and an inability to accept people who are different from yourself is the single key factor involved here.

In any case - keep this crap off the net - it only stands to diminish the value
of ALL of our jobs.

Do you really think the issues you speak of are any different on other jobs? They are the same every where. Be it NYPD, SCSO, SCPD, Riverhead Town or even IBM.

You want a clear cut answer to why someone is promoted? It is very simple. The boss picks. You become the boss and you can pick.

Was that another Suffolk C/O arrested in the raids today?

Was that another Suffolk C/O arrested in the raids today?


No not a C/O....but its not fair that we do all this work and barely get mentioned in Newsday......and the post doesnt mention us at all.

Was that another Suffolk C/O arrested in the raids today?


No not a C/O....but its not fair that we do all this work and barely get mentioned in Newsday......and the post doesnt mention us at all.

Stop your crying you baby. Do you need the liberal media to tell you what a good job that was done??? Grow up.

Besides if you noticed we were mentioned second in the Newsday article.

A pre-dawn raid headed by the New York State Police on the Shinnecock Indian Reservation in Southampton Thursday led to what law enforcement officials called the "dismantling" of "a major narcotics distribution network" on the East End of Long Island.

Arrests included eight residents of the Shinnecock Nation, as well as the son of tribal trustee Lance A. Gumbs, state police said.

Seized in the raid, launched just after 5 a.m. and conducted in conjunction with the Suffolk County District Attorney's Office, Suffolk County Sheriff's Department, the Drug Enforcement Agency, U.S. Secret Service and the Suffolk County Probation Department, were four vehicles, eight handguns, eight rifles, eight shotguns, almost $2,000 in currency, as well as marijuana, heroin, crack and drug paraphernalia. Police also seized a computer and flat screen monitor.

The raid was the result of an investigation dating back to September -- an investigation police said was "a request from the Trustees of the Shinnecock Indian Reservation" made in a letter to Suffolk District Attorney Thomas Spota.

The raid involved the execution of nine search warrants -- five of them on the reservation and four of them at locations in eastern Brookhaven and the East End, law enforcement sources told Newsday.

Notable among those arrested was Awan Gumbs, 26, of 4 Midgie Lane, Hampton Bays. The son of a Shinnecock National Tribal Trustee, Gumbs, according to State Police Major Walter Heesch, conducted some of his alleged narcotics sales from his father's place of business -- the Shinnecock Smoke Shop on Montauk Highway in Southampton.

Police called the younger Gumbs "the primary supplier of cocaine" to the reservation and "surrounding areas."

Two of those arrested -- John A. Miles, 35, of 156 Hampton Ave., Mastic, and Terrill Latney, 27, of 2 Bogota Road, Mastic Beach -- were described by state police as "suppliers of large quantities of cocaine" sold by Gumbs.

Law enforcement officials would not confirm the total number of arrests made or the exact amounts of drugs seized in the operation.

A news conference by state police and Spota is scheduled for 3 p.m. Thursday.

A spokeswoman for the Shinnecock Indian Nation would only confirm the raid had occurred on the reservation Thursday but said the tribe would have no comment until it could prepare a statement. As of 2 p.m., no statement had been released.

Police did not detail the charges against Gumbs, Miles and Latney.

They did announce the charges against 10 others arrested in the raid, including the eight reservation residents: Joseph Johnson, 24, charged with second-degree criminal possession of marijuana and third-degree criminal possession of a weapon; Michael Morton, 33, third-degree criminal sale of a controlled substance, third-degree criminal possession of a weapon and second-degree conspiracy; Damon Wade, 36, third-degree criminal sale of a controlled substance and second-degree conspiracy; Nakai Bess, 21, third-degree criminal sale of a controlled substance and second-degree conspiracy; William I. Bess, 23, third-degree criminal sale of a controlled substance and second-degree conspiracy; Linee Quinn, 31, second-degree conspiracy; Damon Moore, 38, third-degree criminal possession of a weapon; and, Matthew Smith, third-degree criminal sale of a controlled substance.

Two other non-reservation residents arrested were identified by police as: Kristine Goree of 2 Midgie Lane, Hampton Bays, charged with second-degree conspiracy; and, Kyle Bartlett of 40 Constable Drive, Riverhead, charged with unlawful possession of marijuana.

One fifth-generation resident of the reservation, Doreen Pepe, said she was awakened around 5 a.m. by the sound of helicopters overhead.

"They were really close," Pepe said. "I got out to take a look. I saw them circle the circumference of the reservation. I had this feeling of dread. I went to the end of my road and saw the state police. Then I got a call [from a friend]. They said it was a drug raid. I actually was happy to see them [the police] doing something about the drug situation. It's just a couple of people here."

Pepe noted that the reservation is a "small community," adding "nothing doesn't go on here . . . that doesn't go on in any other place in the world."

Since the reservation is tribal land -- and self-governed -- state and local police do not patrol the Shinnecock Indian Nation and, in fact, often seek permission prior to conducting operations on the reservation. Whether police had sought that permission prior to conducting the raid was unclear early Thursday afternoon.

The Shinnecock Reservation does have its own tribal security. It also was unclear if tribal security had been informed prior to the raid. Law enforcement officials told Newsday they do not believe it was.

While Pepe said she was "elated" about the enforcement action Thursday, other tribal residents expressed anger that the raid had taken place.

Several store owners on the reservation informed members of the media seeking information about the raid that they were trespassing on private property and asked reporters and a camera crew to leave.

Was that another Suffolk C/O arrested in the raids today?

he was from rikers....

Was that another Suffolk C/O arrested in the raids today?

he was from rikers....


yea....and he was an "Indian"...living on the reservation!

Was that another Suffolk C/O arrested in the raids today?

he was from rikers....


yea....and he was an "Indian"...living on the reservation!

Double smack in the face for the Reservation. They cant even hold a job without being crooked. Makes the rest of us look like crap. Even our own. I know of three suffolk c/o's that were arrested for being involved with drugs. Sheesh what a tangled web we weave.

Drug test everyone and sweep out the skids that we work with.

Start with the ugly lunatic Farm Sgt.

I wonder how many people if any went to the union meeting tonight. I also sonder what went on. I would have gone but had a little league ball game I had to go to as my son played. If anyone was there please let me know what went on. I am so curiosu if Vito left the meeting again.

[kumapup]

Yeah, me too

from what I understand not many. Nothing brought up about expenses (which I dont find that hard to beleive ) And from wht I hear Vito attended the entire meeting.

from what I understand not many. Nothing brought up about expenses (which I dont find that hard to beleive ) And from wht I hear Vito attended the entire meeting.

Did he stay for a free beer afterwards?

from what I understand not many. Nothing brought up about expenses (which I dont find that hard to beleive ) And from wht I hear Vito attended the entire meeting.

Did he stay for a free beer afterwards?

Most likely. BUt he wont be doing that much longer. There is an investigation ongoing about all their expenses. I wonder what that outcome will be. Can't be good for them

[Happy C/O]

I would like to know something. Why am I hearing chatter about the guy who spread around the expense sheets that our union is spending? What did he do that was so wrong? I can't understand why any one would be mad at him other then the guys spending what they shouldn't be spending. Not for anything but don't we as the members paying these bills have a right to know what they are spending our money on? I think every one of us c/o's should get our priorities in order. Let's not be mad at someone that shows us what our money is being spent on but be mad at the ones spending it on what they shouldn't. And Why Not?

I would like to know something. Why am I hearing chatter about the guy who spread around the expense sheets that our union is spending? What did he do that was so wrong? I can't understand why any one would be mad at him other then the guys spending what they shouldn't be spending. Not for anything but don't we as the members paying these bills have a right to know what they are spending our money on? I think every one of us c/o's should get our priorities in order. Let's not be mad at someone that shows us what our money is being spent on but be mad at the ones spending it on what they shouldn't. And Why Not?

probably because he had his lap dog junior jack from his POD do all the talking at the meeting last month.....

I would like to know something. Why am I hearing chatter about the guy who spread around the expense sheets that our union is spending? What did he do that was so wrong? I can't understand why any one would be mad at him other then the guys spending what they shouldn't be spending. Not for anything but don't we as the members paying these bills have a right to know what they are spending our money on? I think every one of us c/o's should get our priorities in order. Let's not be mad at someone that shows us what our money is being spent on but be mad at the ones spending it on what they shouldn't. And Why Not?

why didnt he say anything when he was on the board?

[Happy C/O]

From what he said, he found those bilsl in january of 2007. Being he was running against the President he didn't want to run a dirty smearing campaign. That's why he didn't say anything as soon as he found those bills. But that is not the point here. The point here is why make him inot the bad guy when he was only informing us of what he had recently found? Vitos behavior at the meeting proved to me that he was guilty of some mis spending or why would he have gotten so upset and left the meeting? You guys can say anything you want but I beleive that bringing out this spending that looks suspicious was the right thing to do.

[just a c / o]

From what he said, he found those bilsl in january of 2007. Being he was running against the President he didn't want to run a dirty smearing campaign. That's why he didn't say anything as soon as he found those bills. But that is not the point here. The point here is why make him inot the bad guy when he was only informing us of what he had recently found? Vitos behavior at the meeting proved to me that he was guilty of some mis spending or why would he have gotten so upset and left the meeting? You guys can say anything you want but I beleive that bringing out this spending that looks suspicious was the right thing to do.

so go to the union office and look at the bills mr. happy

No wonder everyone thinks we are a joke. You guys are worry about the wrong things.
We should be talking about getting jobs, training, retirement ect.
If the union worked half as hard at getting us transportation we would have it.

Guacamole anyone?
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No wonder everyone thinks we are a joke. You guys are worry about the wrong things.
We should be talking about getting jobs, training, retirement ect.
If the union worked half as hard at getting us transportation we would have it.

Wrong again C/O. if the union had enough money they would be able to BUY what we needed or wanted. Come on look at the point here. They don't worry about what they need becaue they use our money for expenses that they should pay with their paycheck. But as vito put in his what I found to be a rude letter about GJ "NOOOOOOOOOOOO" they must use our money. Grow up and face it. the bad guys are our representatives not a c/o making a living on the job.

No wonder everyone thinks we are a joke. You guys are worry about the wrong things.
We should be talking about getting jobs, training, retirement ect.
If the union worked half as hard at getting us transportation we would have it.

Wrong again C/O. if the union had enough money they would be able to BUY what we needed or wanted. Come on look at the point here. They don't worry about what they need becaue they use our money for expenses that they should pay with their paycheck. But as vito put in his what I found to be a rude letter about GJ "NOOOOOOOOOOOO" they must use our money. Grow up and face it. the bad guys are our representatives not a c/o making a living on the job.


But it is us everyday c/o's who have to suffer. while union reps, no matter who they are, eat, drink, and be merry. Then once a month they have to face the music for less then an hour.

No wonder everyone thinks we are a joke. You guys are worry about the wrong things.
We should be talking about getting jobs, training, retirement ect.
If the union worked half as hard at getting us transportation we would have it.

Wrong again C/O. if the union had enough money they would be able to BUY what we needed or wanted. Come on look at the point here. They don't worry about what they need becaue they use our money for expenses that they should pay with their paycheck. But as vito put in his what I found to be a rude letter about GJ "NOOOOOOOOOOOO" they must use our money. Grow up and face it. the bad guys are our representatives not a c/o making a living on the job.


But it is us everyday c/o's who have to suffer. while union reps, no matter who they are, eat, drink, and be merry. Then once a month they have to face the music for less then an hour.


That smy point. Why do we constantly let them get away with that? Why don't we make them accept responsibility for what they spend and do with our union dues? Why do we forget after the first meeting? Make them show su at every meetign every expense spent and all o ftheir vouchers. Like Vito said at the meetign OCme to office and look. NO THEY SHOULD BRING THEM TO THE MEETIGN EVERY MONTH. After al the meetigns are for information isnt that what he says all the time? SHOW US AT THEMEETINGS.

go back to school

[Red Headed stepchild]

Why do I have to have sex offenders, which are former inmates, watching me through their window so they can see what car I drive. Convicted Sex Offenders on the grounds of the Sheriffs office, and the Sheriffs office employees are not the ones patrolling the area??? I think it is time we send a message!

what message would that be?......A forum message?

Wow, I saw the sex offender trailer today. Its nice to see our tax dollars at work for homeless pedophiles. Go Steve Levy! Great Idea... How about you put it in your Hauppauge parking lot.