Dormer's Newsday Editorial 2/17/05

[laddie boy]

Anyone who read this editorial knows there is no way dormer wrote it. It is way to articulate (although pure Bull Shit). If he did write it he had someone proof read it to take out all the "laddie boys" and "tings". Oh me frosted lucky charms. Floating around at the precincts today was a Newsday article from the early 90's with a quote attributed to then Chief richard dormer. Funny how he did the flipflop about the shutting down of sector cars. He was against it then but i guess he is older and wiser now ,LOL. Also seen today was the new stevie the organ grinder t-shirt with his side kick dormer the reformer monkey on a tether. Very funny stuff but apparently the pc was not amused. Someone who shall remain nameless told me just before dormer took office that he was a bitter man ( about being outted when the change of power took place when GAFFNEY took office ) and that he would take revenge on those he deemed against him back then . I do believe that he is enjoying destroying the morale of this Department. It is going to be a long hard battle but we will prevail. Stay safe !

[IT comes from this websit]

The idea came from postings here on another thread under Suozzi pays $300,000 for drivers. Read it straight through. It's all the truth but Newsday would never print it and Dormer was actually holding back too - it should have been a much tuffer Suozzi diss. Hopefully more articles like that will start flowing in the closer the election gets. Maybe by then there will be a new management change at Newsday and the articles will actually make it to publication.

[7th pcter]

sounds like plagerism

[It's all good]

Anyone who read this editorial knows there is no way dormer wrote it. It is way to articulate (although pure Bull Shit). If he did write it he had someone proof read it to take out all the "laddie boys" and "tings". Oh me frosted lucky charms. Floating around at the precincts today was a Newsday article from the early 90's with a quote attributed to then Chief richard dormer. Funny how he did the flipflop about the shutting down of sector cars. He was against it then but i guess he is older and wiser now ,LOL. Also seen today was the new stevie the organ grinder t-shirt with his side kick dormer the reformer monkey on a tether. Very funny stuff but apparently the pc was not amused. Someone who shall remain nameless told me just before dormer took office that he was a bitter man ( about being outted when the change of power took place when GAFFNEY took office ) and that he would take revenge on those he deemed against him back then . I do believe that he is enjoying destroying the morale of this Department. It is going to be a long hard battle but we will prevail. Stay safe !



Yet another article has appeared in Newsday detailing County Executive Steve Levy's police redeployment pilot program. We read about the PBA's opposition to the study but, as has been the habit, the details are barren as to the concept itself ["Suffolk cops appeal to public on Levy plan," News, Feb. 14].

Modern policing puts cops where they need to be, when they need to be there. Police data, the crime clock, trends, thoughtful analysis and other information puts officers on patrol in a directed fashion. Officers are not left on isolated posts in the middle of the night but rather police sectors are elasticized in boundary, number and staffing to accomplish the mission. Most experts agree that "enlightened patrol" is efficient, effective, safer for cops and better serves the public.

Michael J. Butler

Editor's note: The writer is a retired Nassau County police captain.

Anyone who read this editorial knows there is no way dormer wrote it. It is way to articulate (although pure Bull Shit). If he did write it he had someone proof read it to take out all the "laddie boys" and "tings". Oh me frosted lucky charms. Floating around at the precincts today was a Newsday article from the early 90's with a quote attributed to then Chief richard dormer. Funny how he did the flipflop about the shutting down of sector cars. He was against it then but i guess he is older and wiser now ,LOL. Also seen today was the new stevie the organ grinder t-shirt with his side kick dormer the reformer monkey on a tether. Very funny stuff but apparently the pc was not amused. Someone who shall remain nameless told me just before dormer took office that he was a bitter man ( about being outted when the change of power took place when GAFFNEY took office ) and that he would take revenge on those he deemed against him back then . I do believe that he is enjoying destroying the morale of this Department. It is going to be a long hard battle but we will prevail. Stay safe !



Yet another article has appeared in Newsday detailing County Executive Steve Levy's police redeployment pilot program. We read about the PBA's opposition to the study but, as has been the habit, the details are barren as to the concept itself ["Suffolk cops appeal to public on Levy plan," News, Feb. 14].

Modern policing puts cops where they need to be, when they need to be there. Police data, the crime clock, trends, thoughtful analysis and other information puts officers on patrol in a directed fashion. Officers are not left on isolated posts in the middle of the night but rather police sectors are elasticized in boundary, number and staffing to accomplish the mission. Most experts agree that "enlightened patrol" is efficient, effective, safer for cops and better serves the public.

Michael J. Butler

Editor's note: The writer is a retired Nassau County police captain.


Ah another IACP, FBI National Academy true believer heard from. If I had a dollar for every National Academy associate (boss) who was indicted, demoted or ate the blue flame instead of retiring in disgrace I'd have retired a long time ago. Why don't you leave your address and phone number so that I can pick you up on my way to a particularly hot call in the middle of the night in the 2nd Pct. while we handle an entire pct. with effectively 10 units in service.

[laddieboy]

Anyone who read this editorial knows there is no way dormer wrote it. It is way to articulate (although pure Bull Shit). If he did write it he had someone proof read it to take out all the "laddie boys" and "tings". Oh me frosted lucky charms. Floating around at the precincts today was a Newsday article from the early 90's with a quote attributed to then Chief richard dormer. Funny how he did the flipflop about the shutting down of sector cars. He was against it then but i guess he is older and wiser now ,LOL. Also seen today was the new stevie the organ grinder t-shirt with his side kick dormer the reformer monkey on a tether. Very funny stuff but apparently the pc was not amused. Someone who shall remain nameless told me just before dormer took office that he was a bitter man ( about being outted when the change of power took place when GAFFNEY took office ) and that he would take revenge on those he deemed against him back then . I do believe that he is enjoying destroying the morale of this Department. It is going to be a long hard battle but we will prevail. Stay safe !



Yet another article has appeared in Newsday detailing County Executive Steve Levy's police redeployment pilot program. We read about the PBA's opposition to the study but, as has been the habit, the details are barren as to the concept itself ["Suffolk cops appeal to public on Levy plan," News, Feb. 14].

Modern policing puts cops where they need to be, when they need to be there. Police data, the crime clock, trends, thoughtful analysis and other information puts officers on patrol in a directed fashion. Officers are not left on isolated posts in the middle of the night but rather police sectors are elasticized in boundary, number and staffing to accomplish the mission. Most experts agree that "enlightened patrol" is efficient, effective, safer for cops and better serves the public.

Michael J. Butler

Editor's note: The writer is a retired Nassau County police captain.

Another point of view from someone who probably never worked a day on the street his entire career. Probably had a tit job at HQ's , studied his ass off and retired as Capt., never working a day in his life. If this is not accurate he falls into the category of once being a cop but climbing so far up the ladder he forgot where he came from. Either way , be glad you are retired .

[midder]

Maybe Dormer should ride with one of us for a week on mids. He would probably shit his pants.

[SCPD!]

What they are doing seems to be a version of the NYPD's COMSTATS. Where Police are assigned to specific locatrions/ times according to the crime in a given area. It was wildly successful for Bratton and Maple in Transit and later in the NYPD as all the Cops pre Bratton know. Anyone later just does not remember the way it was before him. Sadly for Suffolk and Nassau it just will not work. The NYPD can take 30-50 guys a precinct and due directed Patrol toward a problem area/time of crime. But still have a Patrol force. This is why it can not work in Suffolk/Nassau. They just don't have the manpower to put what would amount to another Squad to do it without crippling Patrol.
Yes they have COPE/CPOP but just not enough men there to take on the new reponsibility. Putting out a limited # of cars on the morning shift is just a bad idea. It seems an open invitation to burglars. One of the basic ideas behind Patrol is Omnipresence if we start Directed Patrol, that will become history, few cars will mean less visability. Also and could be most important is with directed Patrol and cars being shut down; it is obvious where the cars will be shut, in the area of wealth / with little crime. So in Suffolk and Nassau the plan appears to be to shut down cars where the people pay the most tax. We could look at it like a ratio the more tax you pay the less Police sevice you get. That is why this is doomed in Long Island.

[tm952]

What they are doing seems to be a version of the NYPD's COMSTATS. Where Police are assigned to specific locatrions/ times according to the crime in a given area. It was wildly successful for Bratton and Maple in Transit and later in the NYPD as all the Cops pre Bratton know. Anyone later just does not remember the way it was before him. Sadly for Suffolk and Nassau it just will not work. The NYPD can take 30-50 guys a precinct and due directed Patrol toward a problem area/time of crime. But still have a Patrol force. This is why it can not work in Suffolk/Nassau. They just don't have the manpower to put what would amount to another Squad to do it without crippling Patrol.
Yes they have COPE/CPOP but just not enough men there to take on the new reponsibility. Putting out a limited # of cars on the morning shift is just a bad idea. It seems an open invitation to burglars. One of the basic ideas behind Patrol is Omnipresence if we start Directed Patrol, that will become history, few cars will mean less visability. Also and could be most important is with directed Patrol and cars being shut down; it is obvious where the cars will be shut, in the area of wealth / with little crime. So in Suffolk and Nassau the plan appears to be to shut down cars where the people pay the most tax. We could look at it like a ratio the more tax you pay the less Police sevice you get. That is why this is doomed in Long Island.

Finally someone with some intelligence who told it like it is. Amen !

[The NYC problem]

That's what is happening in every agency all over Nassau county. Tom Suozzi has no idea what he is doing and he brought in all these NYC people to advise him. They have no idea what they are doing either. They don't know anything about Nassau County, and they don't live here, so they really don't care either. They are just copying everything from how the City did things, whether or not that way was even successful or not, because they can't think. They just copy, blindly copy, from how they remember things were. They didn't understand why things were the way they were or how or why they did or didn't work. So when things are different here in Nassau County, for many, many reasons - they can't anticipate or forecase properly how that will effect their management set-up, their organization or their plans. They can't accomodate the "wrench" in the works so to speak. So they just keep bumbling along, making more and more mistakes and bigger and bigger messes and it's just going to get worse and worse and worse until we get rid of the problem. Tom Suozzi.

[SCPD PATROL 3]

Dormer has also stated that foot patrols are up. He neglects to telll the public that he is having sector cars taken off the board for up to 2 hours so the officers can walk around!! Smoke and mirrors again!! Where's COPE??????????

[mbutler100]

Another point of view from someone who probably never worked a day on the street his entire career. Probably had a tit job at HQ's , studied his ass off and retired as Capt., never working a day in his life. If this is not accurate he falls into the category of once being a cop but climbing so far up the ladder he forgot where he came from. Either way , be glad you are retired .

Hey dickhead - I was a cop for 8 years on the street, 4 years as patrol supervisor in first Pct including zone leader for Roosevelt and Uniondale, Desk Officer in the 1st, Vietnam vet and lawyer. Ignorance is bliss ain't it...never forgot where I came from and never forgot all the dumbasses like you I worked with...anytime baby!

Michael J. Butler 516-965-8319 Greenport NY

[UnregisteredTyrone]

That number is a gay hotline.

[Unregistbered]

Hey dickhead - I was a cop for 8 years on the street, 4 years as patrol supervisor in first Pct including zone leader for Roosevelt and Uniondale, Desk Officer in the 1st, Vietnam vet and lawyer. Ignorance is bliss ain't it...never forgot where I came from and never forgot all the dumbasses like you I worked with...anytime baby!

Michael J. Butler 516-965-8319 Greenport NY

Youre a poser claiming to live in suffolk but using a nassau phone #.

[time flies]

Hey dickhead - I was a cop for 8 years on the street, 4 years as patrol supervisor in first Pct including zone leader for Roosevelt and Uniondale, Desk Officer in the 1st, Vietnam vet and lawyer. Ignorance is bliss ain't it...never forgot where I came from and never forgot all the dumbasses like you I worked with...anytime baby!

Michael J. Butler 516-965-8319 Greenport NY

it only took you 6 and a half years to respond...where ya been... prison?

[mbutler100]

it only took you 6 and a half years to respond...where ya been... prison?

Hey Son of Dickhead...not in prison actually putting people in prison with the FBI in Washington and the DEA ...was out of the area. You clowns never let me down...what you know about real police work would fit on a condom package. Call anytime moron 516-965-8319

[mbutler100]

Youre a poser claiming to live in suffolk but using a nassau phone #.

There's actually something called a cellphone......ever hear of it????

[rip van winkled]

There's actually something called a cellphone......ever hear of it????

a 516 area code? that is so 2005.

In case you haven't heard, Levy and Dormer are gone. welcome to 2012.

[mbutler100]

Let me begin my last post by apologizing to any readers, correspondents or future readers. My prior posts were feeble attempts at vulgar humor at the expense of others. I inartfully attempted to feign exaggerated passion and be provocative - it just didn't go over. I apologize to anyone offended by my language and those offended by the fact that I was being disrespectful to those that might have a different opinion. I'd also like to add that my excuse for taking such a long time to respond was also a slight exagerration. While I was employed by the FBI and DEA, and resisted going online, it is not accurate to say that I was putting people in prison for that time. That was designed to be a play on words - the operative word being prison. Excuses are of little value but it is important to understand I did not really intend to grossly offend any adversaries - just tweak their nosesHMF48Y and I actually apprecite their opposing opinions for the contrast provided. Again - to all please accept my sincere apology for my words, manner, attitude and approach - humility comes at some cost.