View Full Version : What to do about school taxes
enoughtaxes
02-17-2005, 01:23 PM
As we all know, the only way to curtail our school taxes is to change the system, each district, the ones with problems and the ones that are well run all face shortages from state funding. Enough is Enough, our state legislators need to finally earn some of the high price that we pay them and change to the system to an income based system. this will accomplish several things, 1) all income earning people living in the district including renters legal and illegal will contribute to the system 2) the elderly who are on fixed incomes will not bear a cost that will rise beyond their means, 3) with that said, families with limited income will pay proportionate amounts 4) this will centralize the spending on all schools and equalize the spending from district to district. however, if a district wished to spend more than the state allowance it should be permitted that the district submit to the voters that increase each year above the state funding to be voted on. Not the farce of votesof what we really vote on now. 5) this will also force the high priced rolers of the city to finally pay their own costs rather than having the 5.6 billion owed from the lawsuit being recouped from the taxpayers outside of NYC. 6) by lowering the taxes maybe some younger families and adults may actually stay on Long Island. The only way this can happen is to EMAIl your state senators and legistalotrs every day , , , threaten them . . . Tell you friends and family to do the same. tell them that their job is on the line, , , What do we pay them for anyway. . A late budget every year, their very nice salaries expenses and pensions, , Give me a break, , , the system is broken, , ,this proposal works in other states and their taxes are less than 1/2 of ours, , , also by centralizing the funding maybe the costs of the pensions and administration could be controlled rather than every district having overpaid administrators and numeroud deans principals etc. This would work, I am an attorney with an Acocunting degree, I have worked with School districts and audited them before LAw school . . . ANY THOUGHTS . . . .
i agree2
02-17-2005, 02:17 PM
As we all know, the only way to curtail our school taxes is to change the system, each district, the ones with problems and the ones that are well run all face shortages from state funding. Enough is Enough, our state legislators need to finally earn some of the high price that we pay them and change to the system to an income based system. this will accomplish several things, 1) all income earning people living in the district including renters legal and illegal will contribute to the system 2) the elderly who are on fixed incomes will not bear a cost that will rise beyond their means, 3) with that said, families with limited income will pay proportionate amounts 4) this will centralize the spending on all schools and equalize the spending from district to district. however, if a district wished to spend more than the state allowance it should be permitted that the district submit to the voters that increase each year above the state funding to be voted on. Not the farce of votesof what we really vote on now. 5) this will also force the high priced rolers of the city to finally pay their own costs rather than having the 5.6 billion owed from the lawsuit being recouped from the taxpayers outside of NYC. 6) by lowering the taxes maybe some younger families and adults may actually stay on Long Island. The only way this can happen is to EMAIl your state senators and legistalotrs every day , , , threaten them . . . Tell you friends and family to do the same. tell them that their job is on the line, , , What do we pay them for anyway. . A late budget every year, their very nice salaries expenses and pensions, , Give me a break, , , the system is broken, , ,this proposal works in other states and their taxes are less than 1/2 of ours, , , also by centralizing the funding maybe the costs of the pensions and administration could be controlled rather than every district having overpaid administrators and numeroud deans principals etc. This would work, I am an attorney with an Acocunting degree, I have worked with School districts and audited them before LAw school . . . ANY THOUGHTS . . . .
I am a renter with 3 children and 2 are schoolaged. I think that sounds fair. I work 3 jobs and pay my taxes. I also pay for the schools "extras" out of pocket. I wouldn't mind paying my share for school taxes. I think thats fair. I feel for the childless who pay pay pay.
toohigh
02-18-2005, 12:23 PM
lower the taxes now get rid of the bs
get gone
02-23-2005, 04:58 PM
get rid of the liberal dems :twisted:
yes /no
03-03-2005, 10:10 PM
what do we do fight the unions :evil: :evil: :evil:
teacher hubby
03-03-2005, 10:13 PM
the only thing you taxpayers need to do is just 3 easy steps:
1. Bend Over
2. Grab Ankles
3. Bite Pillow
Cant pay no more
03-03-2005, 10:55 PM
I would love to see an income tax instead of property tax. If everyone allegedley benifits then everyone should pay.As long as the teachers unions control Albany NOTHING will change. The spineless politicins will NEVER bite the hand that feeds them! So like the leechers husband says bend over .
start by
03-06-2005, 07:44 AM
lowering the tax rate do that by dumping suozzi
help me 2005
03-13-2005, 01:01 AM
help us taxes too high :twisted:
Doing the Math
03-13-2005, 11:16 AM
As we all know, the only way to curtail our school taxes is to change the system, each district, the ones with problems and the ones that are well run all face shortages from state funding. Enough is Enough, our state legislators need to finally earn some of the high price that we pay them and change to the system to an income based system. this will accomplish several things, 1) all income earning people living in the district including renters legal and illegal will contribute to the system 2) the elderly who are on fixed incomes will not bear a cost that will rise beyond their means, 3) with that said, families with limited income will pay proportionate amounts 4) this will centralize the spending on all schools and equalize the spending from district to district. however, if a district wished to spend more than the state allowance it should be permitted that the district submit to the voters that increase each year above the state funding to be voted on. Not the farce of votesof what we really vote on now. 5) this will also force the high priced rolers of the city to finally pay their own costs rather than having the 5.6 billion owed from the lawsuit being recouped from the taxpayers outside of NYC. 6) by lowering the taxes maybe some younger families and adults may actually stay on Long Island. The only way this can happen is to EMAIl your state senators and legistalotrs every day , , , threaten them . . . Tell you friends and family to do the same. tell them that their job is on the line, , , What do we pay them for anyway. . A late budget every year, their very nice salaries expenses and pensions, , Give me a break, , , the system is broken, , ,this proposal works in other states and their taxes are less than 1/2 of ours, , , also by centralizing the funding maybe the costs of the pensions and administration could be controlled rather than every district having overpaid administrators and numeroud deans principals etc. This would work, I am an attorney with an Acocunting degree, I have worked with School districts and audited them before LAw school . . . ANY THOUGHTS . . . .
The bottom line is NY State is screwing all the school districts and laughing at us scrambling to do the right thing.
Some numbers to consider state support to Long island School Districts is worth about 25% of the overall budget, meaning the taxpayers need to to fund the remaining 75%, compared to NYC where it is 46% and we are being asked to pick up the slack.
School districts legally must come up with up to a percentage of their budget top pay pensions, salaries and retirements. Why? because NY State says so.
Cut salaries? sure, and then the quality of teaching and administrating will go down as the current staff will go elsewhere to make the money they are "worth"
Take levy increases are sky rocketing, and another mind boggling problem is during the last decade over 100,000 immigrants have moved to Long Island, these are not the Intel orientals we read about, the majority come here from third world and under acheiving econmies to make a better life here on Long Island.
our overall scores show that when you have to take into consideration in bigger school districts as many as 20 different languages could be spoken by these new residents and over 100 may not even speak any english at all, which presents a problem in its own, but the school districts must restructure there standards to these students.
Sure you can go to Pennsylvania, get smaller schools, classes and higher test scores because, there everyone is on the same page academiccaly, whereas here, the diversity strangles us to keep with the Joneses
watch out time
04-13-2005, 03:14 PM
lok at your numbers :twisted: :evil:
notnaive
04-13-2005, 06:52 PM
So, everyone who works off the books or shows losses in their business pays what, ZERO. Only civil service schmucks-read middle class, again get screwed. My salary is on the books.I can't hide it I pay uncle sam. Many, many of my neighbors work part or all cash. Property can't be hidden. Only a consumption tax(sales) really gets everyone including the huge corporations like GE that "lost " money and paid no taxes this year.
Not Old Enough Yet
04-14-2005, 07:57 AM
The only people crying for an income tax are the old farts who want that Lexus instead of supporting their schools. Their kids are all grown up now, have kids of their own who probably don't live on Long Island, and now these old crows want an income tax so they can further beat the system THEY created and nourished all those years.
If you're old and having financial difficulties, please, by all means move to Miami and just die there. But stop trying to alter a system which has been in place for decades. Man, the baby-boomers sure are a greedy lot. They think the entire world should revolve around them and their WANTS.
milky
10-12-2005, 10:25 AM
lok at your numbers :twisted: :evil:
Lets pass all budgets..... Don't let the programs be cut ! Ask your boss for a raise.
pablo
10-12-2005, 02:19 PM
lok at your numbers :twisted: :evil:
Lets pass all budgets..... Don't let the programs be cut ! Ask your boss for a raise.
Now lets not go crazy
johnnyboy
10-13-2005, 09:13 AM
So, everyone who works off the books or shows losses in their business pays what, ZERO. Only civil service schmucks-read middle class, again get screwed. My salary is on the books.I can't hide it I pay uncle sam. Many, many of my neighbors work part or all cash. Property can't be hidden. Only a consumption tax(sales) really gets everyone including the huge corporations like GE that "lost " money and paid no taxes this year.
yeper
coolio
10-13-2005, 12:06 PM
help us taxes too high :twisted:As we all know, the only way to curtail our school taxes is to change the system, each district, the ones with problems and the ones that are well run all face shortages from state funding. Enough is Enough, our state legislators need to finally earn some of the high price that we pay them and change to the system to an income based system. this will accomplish several things, 1) all income earning people living in the district including renters legal and illegal will contribute to the system 2) the elderly who are on fixed incomes will not bear a cost that will rise beyond their means, 3) with that said, families with limited income will pay proportionate amounts 4) this will centralize the spending on all schools and equalize the spending from district to district. however, if a district wished to spend more than the state allowance it should be permitted that the district submit to the voters that increase each year above the state funding to be voted on. Not the farce of votesof what we really vote on now. 5) this will also force the high priced rolers of the city to finally pay their own costs rather than having the 5.6 billion owed from the lawsuit being recouped from the taxpayers outside of NYC. 6) by lowering the taxes maybe some younger families and adults may actually stay on Long Island. The only way this can happen is to EMAIl your state senators and legistalotrs every day , , , threaten them . . . Tell you friends and family to do the same. tell them that their job is on the line, , , What do we pay them for anyway. . A late budget every year, their very nice salaries expenses and pensions, , Give me a break, , , the system is broken, , ,this proposal works in other states and their taxes are less than 1/2 of ours, , , also by centralizing the funding maybe the costs of the pensions and administration could be controlled rather than every district having overpaid administrators and numeroud deans principals etc. This would work, I am an attorney with an Acocunting degree, I have worked with School districts and audited them before LAw school . . . ANY THOUGHTS . . . .
makes sense to me....thats why albany wont do it
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