Is Tom Suozzi Anti-Teacher's Union?

[A Good Teach]

First, I read in Newsday that Suozzi tells the Conservative Party that he supports holding school district elections in November. Then I hear that, as mayor of Glen Cove, Suozzi organized bus trips to Albany to get the school district vote for the small cities, legislation that was opposed by the teacher's union and their allies, and which had been stalled in the State Assembly. Suozzi was even allied with a conservative activist who stormed out of a meeting of the Glen Cove School Board because he was against teacher's tenure!

As a twenty-five year veteran of the school system, and a registered Democrat, I feel betrayed by this. Doesn't Tom Suozzi realize how much he and all Democrats owe to our volunteer efforts, be it with petitions, campaign contributions, or simply telling our friends and neighbors to vote for Democratic candidates.

[you teachers]

you teachers got too from the lib dems they know they give you too much and you waste money

[Teachola]

Suozzi has stated on many occasins that teachers out here make too much $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$. Check for yourself.

[libdem]

go tom show that not all dem have there head up the ass of the teachers unions :lol:

[big tom]

:D :D :D :D :D :D

[I agree Show Them Tom]

go tom show that not all dem have there head up the ass of the teachers unions :lol:

Take on the teacher's union baby, that's the way to make lots of friends.... DO IT TOM.... BE A MAN..... TELL THEM TO GO TO HELL AND DIE..... TELL THEM TO GIVE UP TENURE..... TELL THEM TO GIVE UP LAVISH BUDGETS AND AFTER SCHOOL PROGRAMS..... BE A MAN TOM.... TELL THOSE FAMILY PLUS FAMILIES BILKING US OUT OF MEDICAID THAT THEY CAN'T HAVE HEALTH BENEFITS FOR THEIR KIDS.....

STOP SUGAR COATING IT BABY.... DRINK YOUR KOOL AID LIKE A GOOD LITTLE BOY........ :lol:

[tom/ levy]

dont be like levy who like s to have his picture taken but calls the schools the fat cat

[I agree.. but remember,]

dont be like levy who like s to have his picture taken but calls the schools the fat cat


Levy is at worst an occasional demogogue who really doesn't have obvious statewide ambitions and who is loyal to parochial interests. He will rouse the anti-tax crowd, and play them alittle to cut into the GOP, but that's about the extent of it really. Levy staffed his administration with Long Islanders.

It is Levy who needs to be reminded that he cannot behave like Mr. Suozzi. Mr. Suozzi has an organized, anti-teacher's union agenda. He has allied himself with the Bill Boeddeners of this world who oppose teacher tenure and whow write strangely homophobic letters to their college alumni magazine.

Levy yells about fat cats. Suozzi advocates changes which would open up the Boards of Education to anti-tax candidates who don't believe that kids need after school programs, modern computers, arts and music education, or interscholastic sports to achieve a quality education. These same people are hostile to the longstanding teacher tenure system, and overly long summer vacations. These same people also do not realize that providing legally mandated "free and appropriate public school education in the least restrictive environment" for disabled students costs alot of money. Look at how Suozzi is handling the DSS and seeking to lein every sick child's assets. Suozzi and his Administration is not exactly filled with enlightened people. He caters to, and appeals to, the bottom feeders.

As long as Levy is merely a blowhard, he is not a threat to the teachers unions, administrators, and their allies. Tom Suozzi, however, has made it known that he is no friend of the teachers, the parents, the school administrators, and the students of Long Island.

[fat cats]

the teachers are the fat cats

the teachers are the fat cats

no they are the hard working ones

[Suozzi Doesn't Know Work]

Suozzi doesn't know what it is like to be labor. He only cares about management. That is why he wants to hurt the rank in file, to make his political points.

[against tenure]

Suozzi thinks everyone but him makes too much money. He doesn't believe in unions or the civil service system. He likes everyone hired by him to be appointed by him to work at will. That's why he formed the Glen Cove group and led them to Albany to lobby against teacher's tenure. He doesn't believe teachers should be tenured and he wants to wipe out the system. He wants to change the way people vote for school board elections and he wants to change the timing of the voting to November.

[Yes He is]

In short - yes. Tom Suozzi is against tenure.

[Suicidal Tom]

Suozzi never really had to work for anyone. He doesn't know what it's like to be threatened by an unfair boss, or have to deal with being pushed around by somebody's retarded relative. Tenure and civil service laws try to protect public sector workers from that sort of abuse. What Tom Suozzi needs to do is to work for a year or two in a car wash or selling shoes like Al Bundy. He needs to have his leather pumps commission stolen by the effete metrosexual salesperson at Nordstroms., or something like that. Maybe when Tom goes down to his defeat in November 2005, he can work in one of those occupations, so that he can understand why a working person would want to have protection against a tempermental managerial sh*thead just like himself.

[Right on! Suicidal Tom.]

[quote="Suicidal Tom"]Suozzi never really had to work for anyone. He doesn't know what it's like to be threatened by an unfair boss, or have to deal with being pushed around by somebody's retarded relative.


This is exactly because Tom is the retarded relative that you have to worry about at work! And Tom's not suicidal. He's special.

[One shot deals]

He wants to kill schools and everyone associated with them. Don't his kids go to catholic schools? Isn't he also advocating that school boards and school budgets get only one shot at passing? If they get denied that's it - NO budget for the school year? No chance of tweaking it and re-submitting it - just you are plain out of luck. How's that gonna work? Or is it like everything else he talks about - all vision, all plan, all talk --- no action.

Cannibalism suits the Democrats.

[Public School Stinks]

He's not only anti-teacher, he's anti-public school ======= period.

H's trying to put all the blame for his property rate tax increases on the educational system. He neglects to say the reason school taxes are so high is because they have to pay the same taxes every other building in Nassau has to pay - and thanks to Tom Suozzi - that all rose dramatically. That the teachers and administrators who get a salary live here too. That Tom Suozzi's policy to welcome illegal immigrants into the community are a big reason the school's resources are being depleted and the decrease in aid the schools have gotten from the county, as well as the fact that the schools have had to pick up the slack lost from Tom Suozzi's decrease in money funding youth organizations and activities and day care are requiring them to pick up the slack. The fact that Nassau County places every pins kid and JD that comes before the family court now, which placement gets paid for by the school district even when these kids are illegal resident aliens and that Suozzi's own county attorney attacked families of special needs kids getting medicaid which required school districts to foot the entire bill to educate them - all apparently slipped the wacko's analysis. The facts that schools must provide bi-lingual instruction and home tutoring for crazy cultural and religious fanatics who won't or can't get their kids to go to school and/or to learn English as well as the fact that public schools are being over-crowded because people have to take their children out of parachial's schools which they can no longer afford because Tom Suozzi raised the property taxes so high they can no longer afford catholic/hebrew school tuitions. Even Newsday published that under Tom Suozzi government exploded 54% despite his lies that he's reduced staff.

It's all Tom Suozzi's fault and he's not even man enough to admit it. Instead - he's trying to put the blame on everyone else. First he blamed Gulotta and now he's blaming the schools - trying to pit the families in Nassau against the very administrators and teachers who teach their kids - the same way he broke-up the civil service workers and the union workers and pushed Albany and Washington away from us.

[Easy Mark]

TS is not unique here. The name of the game is deflection. Schools are an easy target. Putting the teachers union into the game is a nice touch though. In the past the game was just played against the boards. Here's how it works: The state & fed govt pass laws to increase costs, play games with STAR and emergeny worker tax breaks, pass costs back to local schools and then point fingers at the increased costs. Carrying the dead weight of tenure just adds to the cost.

Don't hate the player; hate the game.

[What??]

I don't get it.

[You don't get it?]

You don't get it? That's what Suozzi is counting on. The dumber the voter the better he likes it. The less aware the more likely he figures you are to think he's great. If you don't think he loves you - he'll even hire you and give you salary increases. These are the people who vote for him. And even after he screws us every which way he can, then still play his songs. Then all of a sudden, somebody wakes up and says what? I don't get it. WHAT happened? Where's Nassau County? What happened to it? And the answer will be - you voted for Tom Suozzi - THAT's what happened - you let him destroy us. And now he's living in ALBANY and you are stuck HERE - trying to convince the bank not to foreclose on your house while your kids are smoking pot in the street.

[taxbreak]

we need the tax breaks because yo unions dont give back anything like the other unions are ding . go tom

[Full Refund]

Sir, from the educational deficit you are clearly suffering from, I'd say you're entitled to a full refund. You are exactly the kind of voter Suozzi loves. Uneducated, blind and careless.

[Vote Retractor]

Greg Peterson can do it better.
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Suozzi is an idiot. We all see, hear and smell clearly. We know what's going on with Suozzi's audits on special districts. Why do you think DEMOCRATS are bailing and converting to republican?Because THEY SEE CLEARLY. Suozzi is killing us and ruining Nassau County.Weitzman and Levinson and Suozzi are all full of crap. There so called audit on special districts is a useless witch hunt that will only lead to higher county taxes for all of us and less services. Suozzi wants us to pay the money to the county that we are paying now to our own individual districts. He's not trying to save us money. Then he can take that money and give it away to more high salaried, do nothing, know nothing, administrators and leave us poor, dirty and thirsty. He'll have our money and we'll have no services. I rather pay my local district - at least I know I'm getting the services I'm paying for and I can see where my money is going.
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Suozzi thinks Government is like running a business. Some way to run a business. Suozzi is paying dozens of non-nassau county residents and unqualified department heads 6 figure salary's and creating verticle managment levels and imposing dress codes on lower level workers? His patronage jobs cost the county $16.1 million a year, up $3 million in the past 2 years. The average salary for the 422 patronage jobs in his administration is over $70,000. Yeah, things cost money. Patronage jobs cost money. He retroactively adjusted their start dates too so they get the same benefit package that senior civil service workers were entitled to because of their longevity and dedication to working for low salarys over the years. He's cut services. He's wiped out whole organizations that serve the general public. He raised taxes 19.4% in 2002 and he's been raising them ever since and claims he'll need to have 2 more increases before he's done. He's decreased the police staff by 522 jobs while the gang presence on long island is rapidly gaining, and while he denied salary raises to low level civil service workers, he gave 5% increases for the 3rd year in a row to his patronage workers, whose average salary is over $70,000 for a no show job. Because of the cuts in police overtime was $28 million last year and expected to be over $35 million this year while the overtime at the jail is over $25 million. This is what tom suozzi and his democratic majority legislature has accomplished in their first term in office. God help us if there's a second term. There damn well better not be.
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Gulotta's last two years in office he made his appointed workers all take pay cuts - that's where the give backs were coming from. He went after the patronage workers instead of raising taxes first. Suozzi raised taxes and then gave raises to his patronage workers with them. Suozzi is anything but special. Our kids are going to have nowhere to play and they are going to get run out of school by gang violence. Greg Peterson is the one Tom Suozzi is up against. He is a Gulotta friend OF COURSE. They were both active Republicans. So what? Greg Peterson spent the last 6 years outside of the government limelight running a very successful law firm and practising law. In fact, his law firm where he was a founding partner is one of the top 5 largest law firms in Nassau County. He knows how to work hard and he knows how to make a profitable business work. Before that he ran the town of hempstead for 5 years without raising taxes or decreasing services and he didn't have the luck suozzi had in reaping a sales tax windfall from explosive gas prices, which suozzi also surcharged incidentally - and now is threatening to add an energy tax too as well. Peterson also managed to merge 4 town departments and completely eliminated 2 others in order to keep essential services running smoothly without raising taxes. Suozzi sees tax increases as dividends owed to him, not as a last resort like Peterson. Go ahead wise guy - vote for Suozzi again. You'll be raising your family on the coast of Georgia soon because Suozzi is chasing the middle class out of nassau county.
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Good night Irene - Good night Tom Suozzi. AND GOOD RIDDANCE.

[gotca]

he do

[Group Hug]

Maybe Suozzi thinks all kids should go to the Montessori school of learning to deal with reality through group hugs and therapy. I hear you don't even need a teacher's license to hug the kids there.

[Hidden Agenda]

Show me a Public School basher and I'll show you someone with private school uniforms in their kids closets.

[go tommmy]

:lol: :P :P

[Driving a Wedge]

Suozzi is just trying to drive a wedge between people. He drives a wedge between groups that would ordinarily stick together, and then he moves between them garnering support. After all is set and done, neither group will find they have actually gotten anything and the wedge between them and us has grown bigger. That's the order of Suozzi's verticle management team. There's Suozzi at the top of the pyramid, then a long succession of high salaried and incompetent managers and then a big rift and then all the little people - the workers, the middle class - and another big wedge and then a bottomless pit with the ones who can't make it in the reign of Herr Suozzi.

[Suozzi Forgets He's A Dem]

Let me get this straight. Suozzi wants to screw the teacher's union, but cut deals with the far right? Why should any Democrat, teacher's union official, or anybody else to the left of Jesse Helms bother to vote for this clown? It's sort of like choosing between a turd sandwich and a giant douche.

[Suozzi is a rich kid]

He was born with a silver spoon in his mouth and that's the crowd he hangs with. He has an obvious disdain for what he considers the working class and he is obviously feeling he is above the county executive job with his comments that - he doesn't get paid enough, while there are people working 3 jobs to keep a roof over their head and they still don't have the income and assets Suozzi has. The wedge is being driven by his adminstration and the further apart "his kind" can keep away from the rest of us, the better off he'll like it. We can all live in his high rise apartment style ghettos, as long as he and "his kind" can stay in their $1.5 million dollar North Shore homes. Isn't that what he paid with an interest free, collaterol free, $650,000 loan from one of his contractor/developer friends? Is it any wonder he wants to give them all contracts to buy great, big skyscrapers on long island. Let's give the terrorists another big red X to hit shall we?

[The 70's school system]

Without tenure we'll go back to the 70's school system and you'll remember that wasn't too great. Teacher's couldn't get tenure back then because the classes weren't filling up as fast as teachers were being turned out. Nobody decent went into teaching then and teachers dropped off and started a drought. Then the classes were getting huge again and there weren't enough good teachers so they had to start giving kids incentives to go to school for teaching like offering to pay off their student loans and making tenure easier. Then they started raising salaries again. I'm not sure what the exact cycle is now that we're caught up in but I do know a couple kids who just came out a few years ago with their teaching degrees and they've been getting knocked around alot - from district to district because they don't want to tenure new teachers anymore. Suozzi doesn' t need to get himself involved in this. The marketplace takes care of things.

[quote="Vote Retractor"]Greg Peterson can do it better.
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Gulotta's last two years in office he made his appointed workers all take pay cuts - that's where the give backs were coming from. He went after the patronage workers instead of raising taxes first.
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It is absolutely mind-boggling. Is there ANYTHING about the republican party that in your mind they did wrong????? Your credibility can certainly be questioned when you try to put a positive spin on Gutotta's tenure. You fail to mention just how poor a county manager he was. You point to this last desperate attempts to in some way partially correct his many years of poor management and you point to that as yet another example of how much better the republicans are at running the county.

The republicans had their shot, for MANY, MANY years and look how things ended up. Talk about THAT, big mouth. Talk a little about what a new administration is supposed to do when it inherits the mess that Gulotta left us. It comes down to two things: cuttings services and raising taxes. That's what happens when services are maintained for twelve years while taxes are never raised. Economics 101.

You clowns who are spewing all of this venom Suozzi's way need to understand just why you ARE that way. And the bottom line it this: it's not who he is, it's the simple fact that he is a Democrat. IT'S THE PARTY, STUPID!!!! I happen to be an independent and the last few local elections I've pretty much split my vote down the middle for both republicans and democrats. I simply vote for the candidate whom I feel has a sense of ethics (had to find these days on both sides of the aisle) and who has a decent track record. And that can come from either side of the aisle. BUT, there are voters from both parties who are so hateful of the other party that they spend all of their energy doing nothing but finding fault. They never, never give an inch and they have themselves convinced that every damn move the other party takes is wrong, stupid, ill-conceived, etc. Look at Schmitt, one of the republican party's biggest loud mouths. Every once in a while he makes a little sense but more often than not he's a windbag who isn't taken seriously be intelligent people because his purpose in life is to do nothing but criticize the other Suozzi administraion. Recently he mouthed-off with "facts" about the county that were so malicious and false that even his own party had to tell him to "shut up", so to speak.

We really need to step back and look at the big picture. We really need to acknowledge when the right decisions are made and we need to raise hell when the wrong decisions are made. But we're running in place when all we do is get up each morning with our republican or democratic blinders on, with the primary goal in our lives being nothing more than to figure out how to destroy the other party's power base rather than figuring out how to work together.

To all the Suozzi hater's on this thread, make a list of things you think he actually did right. If your page is a blank, you need to rethink your motives and what you believe to be a balanced way of reasoning things out in your own mind. Blind hatred of a person or a party can certainly cloud good judgment.

[stay on topic please]

This thread simply asks these questions: Is Tom Suozzi anti-teachers' union? Does Suozzi take the support of the teachers' unon for granted? Is it like that Suozzi's scapegoating of school taxation and voter participation in school board elections will reduce his support in November, both this year and perhaps next.

[You have to pardon guest]

You'll see a million posts a day from him. He lives on this website like an animated computer figure. He's not a well man. Just ignore his posts and move on.

[Economics 101]

The short version. The republicans ran the county for 4 decades. There were no complaints from anyone about anything until just before the 2001 election. The county did not go into bankruptcy. There were some fiscal problems that needed to be addressed and they would have been addressed. The republicans wanted to try every last chance creative way to address those problems before resorting to devasting tax and fee raises and cutting necessary services and failing to make ordinary repairs. They never got there. Suozzi snuck up and stabbed his own party in the back by knocking Dinapoli on his ass and used as a first resort the easiest possible remedy and raised taxes and fees while decreasing services and failing to take care of daily county business. By using the tax and fee raise as a first resort, he's left the county more vulnerable to economic changes as the state and federal budgets looming deficits increase and the allocated local monies decline, especially to Nassau County where they tool hate Suozzi and won't do him any favors - thereby hurting us. Running the county for 40 years they didn't do a bad job - compared to the destruction that reigned from the Suozzi administration in only 3 years. Macys, Sears, Kmart - they all were pretty profitable and did a good job running things for a real long time too - but economies of scale change and businesses falter and they wound up literally filing for bankruptcy. They are rebounding though - and it's not because they raised prices - which is basically all Suozzi did. A&S, Alexanders, Bradleys, Orbachs - for goodness sakes whoever thought Gimbels would be out of business? You can't say the people who ran those stores for so many years did a lousy job and at the end it was all their fault. That's stupid. That's what Suozzi and Newsday are trying to get people to believe. Things are complicated but you don't get by 40 years without making a few mistakes, but you do have to be doing something mostly all right. And really - think about it. If things were so bad as Newsday pretends they were - do you really think this miracle that Suozzi allegedly pulled off could happen in only a couple years? It doesn't work like that. And now they are predicting a major multi-million dollar deficit in the budget next year. If the county is in such great financial shape now, how is it expected to suddently go to pot next year? Are we going to war with another borough or something? It makes no logical sense. That's because it's not quite the simple picture Newsday makes it appear to be and it's not all quite so rosy - or bleek - a picture on either side of the coin either.

[Schoot First]

:twisted:

[Suozzi Appoints Teachers]

Suozzi must be stopped. He wants to eliminate tenure and centralize school districts into one consolidated conglomerate. Why? So he can hand pick teachers from amongs his political supporters and financial contributors. To hell with everything else. It's about his race to get out of Nassau County as fast as he can and he'll do whatever he has to in order to get to Albany.

November 2005. I'll be there at the polls. Will you?

[chiming in 2]

Suozzi must be stopped. He wants to eliminate tenure and centralize school districts into one consolidated conglomerate. Why? So he can hand pick teachers from amongs his political supporters and financial contributors. To hell with everything else. It's about his race to get out of Nassau County as fast as he can and he'll do whatever he has to in order to get to Albany.

November 2005. I'll be there at the polls. Will you?

I think you need some serious therapy. Beyond the shadow of a doubt you are one of those "my party to the death" nuts who is so damn delusional that you take one proposed action (eliminating tenure) and you JUST KNOW that there is something sinister, something so evil, that only someone from THE OTHER PARTY could conjure up. I'm sure you are right: Suozzi is proposing the elimination of tenure so that he can take the time to "handpick" thousands and thousands of teachers for political gain.

Get real. Get back down to the planet earth. Get help (for yourself). Your just some political bozo (BOTH parties have them) who gets up each morning; and, your primary purpose of living and breathing is to spend each waking minute plotting against the other party which represents all that is evil in your mind. Get a life.

The short version. The republicans ran the county for 4 decades. There were no complaints from anyone about anything until just before the 2001 election. The county did not go into bankruptcy. There were some fiscal problems that needed to be addressed and they would have been addressed. The republicans wanted to try every last chance creative way to address those problems before resorting to devasting tax and fee raises and cutting necessary services and failing to make ordinary repairs. They never got there...............Running the county for 40 years they didn't do a bad job - compared to the destruction that reigned from the Suozzi administration in only 3 years.

First of all, Newsday isn't the entity that decides the county's bond ratings...you know....that little thing that decides at what percentage rate we can borrow money. Your statements, the ones I've quoted above, really need to be retracted. They don't exactly make you look like a reasonable, objective thinker. I especially love the way you minimize just how badly the county's fiscal condition was just before THE VOTERS BOOTED THE REPUBLICAN ADMINISTRATION out on their behinds. People are (usually) smart. You have a staunchly republican constituent base in Nassau County that actually got so damn tired of your wonderful administration ("there were some fiscal probems that would have been addressed"; yeah, right) and what they had done to the fiscal health of the county, that they saw the light (rather belatedly, might I add).

Newsday had nothing to do with it. But go ahead and blame them.

Suozzi was in diapers most of that time and he inherited an absolute mess. But go ahead and blame him. NOTHING he could do would get any acknowledgement from you that his actions are based on good, sound management.

Nothing galls some people more than having to watch the old boy network crumble, AT THEIR OWN DOING, NOT NEWSDAY, NOT ANYONE ON THE DEMOCRATIC SIDE OF THE AISLE, at their OWN doing. And now, having to live each day wallowing in your own hatred for a target on the other side of the aisle, you long for the days of elbow-rubbing with the privileged few at the top who ran the whole damn Nassau County frat party that was filled with a bunch of windbags so full of themselves that they couldn't think straight, let alone have the intelligence to know that constant poor fiscal management would eventually come back to haunt them.

Forget the crap about "some fiscal problems that would have been addressed". Yeah, we'll trust that statement. Why shouldn't we? you only had 40 years to get it right and fell flat onto your cushy little rear ends. And, if Suozzi messes up, it'll be "you see, people? that is what you get for choosing HIM!"

[A Smart Poster]

Suozzi must be stopped. He wants to eliminate tenure and centralize school districts into one consolidated conglomerate. Why? So he can hand pick teachers from amongs his political supporters and financial contributors. To hell with everything else. It's about his race to get out of Nassau County as fast as he can and he'll do whatever he has to in order to get to Albany.

November 2005. I'll be there at the polls. Will you?


I think you called it better than anyone else. Suozzi wants control so that he can pick the jobs, either as CE or Governor, but preferably Governor, as a stepping stone to the United States Presidency. The teachers have to stop Tom Suozzi. No question. He has no loyalty to rank in file supporters, and cares only about his greater ambitions, which are more important than our needs in the classroom or our need to support our families and live on Long Island.

[Don't need no smarts]

It's an easy call. People in the know who get their information from other sources besides what suozzi says and what newsday prints know what this guy is plotting, we can see what he's done. He's got some kind of grandeur delusional syndrome whereupon he sees himself as King and whether or not he can make it to Albany he's going to rule everything and everyone he can. Nobody reaches his level according to him, but him. In the summer he's coming out with an economic development plan. He wants to push his ideas to start before November. If he doesn't get re-elected we'll be stuck then with the delusions and citi-fication of surburban life and stuck with his bills. If he does get elected and leaves for another job - which it's no secret he fully intends on doing - we'll be stuck anyway. It's too bad the guy can't be impeached. I just hope the legislators do their job and hold the guy back - keep him from doing any more damage before we get a chance to speak to him at the polls in November. What the guy says - and what he does - are two different things - he lies and he's not got a clue about what anybody else in his administration does or doesn't do.

[Suozzi still wears diaper]

40 years to get it right? Think again. 35 years they had it right. They ran into some problems the last few years. Like Macys, Orbachs, ALexanders, Gimbels, Abraham & Straus, you know - all the big guys who ran a damn good and profitable company for years. Then stuff happens. The problem you all seem to be missing is that Suozzi is not fixing the problem. He's throwing bandaids onto it and then he's stepping off and in 2006 when more than $300M in tax assessment refunds comes due - he won't have the money to pay for it because despite his campaign promises and newsday rhetoric - he increased staffing and salary and imploded the patronage staff. His spending went to colored horses and painted dome roofs and 4 different computer systems in 3 years and $7000 conference room tv sets. His people dont live in Nasau and we pay their salary, their cars, their gas and give them lifetime free medical insurance when they hit 55 years old. He hasn't spend money on capital expenditures - he's asking the towns and villages to repair the county roads and sidewalks first and then telling them he'll pay them back later. Yeah -right. SO nothing is repaired. The parks are filled with spanish seasonal workers from queens who come in on the weekends with hundreds of family members and use our resources. He's built day laborer huts and has done nothing else about the illegal immigrants, illegal hiring of them, illegal housing. He ignores the gang problem and cut the police force by 522 cops and for awhile, he dismantled the special units that went after gangs and handled sex crimes. Look at the police department link. Sure crime on an overall level went down - petty theft and misdemeanors. But sex assaults, sex crimes & commercial level thefts increased in some districts by 400%. All we did was trade insignificant crime for violent crime as a direct result of Suozzi's mismanagement. You people that extoll his virtues ignore everything. He has failed. His administration failed. Peter Sylver, Campanelli, Janizen, Dennenberg, IDA, HUD, Glen Cove, The County Attorney's office, asset forfeitures, no smoking bills, PVB, the jail, the parks, the hospital - there is nothing he has done right and there is nothing he has done period. He raised taxes, he raised fees, he implemented fees and surcharges where none existed before, he made out like a bandit with the sales tax revenues and refused to give us a tax free week, he just raised the county portion again, he surcharged tickets at the nassau colliseum, he surcharged our telephone tax bill, he wanted his own water & sewer district and when that failed to pass albany he decided to go after the towns so he could find some bugged up charges to consolidate them and form one special district that he can control even though albany and our own legislative representatives told him no - he can't handle it. He's running the guy who wants an income tax for TOH supervisor and suozzi himself already incorporated 2 more property tax increases over the next two years. We have no place for more people yet he wants to let wang build a 60 story skyscraper, and suozzi wants low income high rise apartment buildings which is written right into his last years economic development plan if you bother to look at it and get the real facts. He wants to build apartments over storefronts along major avenues like jericho & hempstead turnpike all over nassau county. He floated a $50M bond to preserve parkland despite also establishing a fundraising conservancy for this purpose and despite this purpose being expected to be rendered from the general tax funds. Moreover, nothing has been done to repair or maintain the parkland we have and all he talks about and all the consultants on his payroll and all the task forces he puts together from manhattan companies are all about developing and building high rise apartment buildings. He' floating another $2M in bonds to build a science center on private property on LIJ-North Shore grounds near Queens where that hospital is building an outpatient facility yet he wants to close down our nursing home and get rid of the publically funded hospital. He tripled the staff at the county attorney's office yet they no longer represent the hospital which now has to pay hundreds of thousands of dollars to outside counsel to represent them when he's overstaffed high paid, do nothing county attorneys on the payroll anyway. Legal judgments in 6 figure and 7 figure amounts are sitting around unpaid. He fixed nothing and took advantage of everything. He's done nothing and all he does is talk about delusional visions of grandeur without doing anything about maintaining or preserving the basic infrastructure. The county is crumbling all around him as he talks about building sky trams and zoos and raising hempstead turnpike into the sky. Please. Dont dare tell me you think this guy is better than the republicans. Dont' dare tell me this is a party thing. The republicans got what nassau county life was about and they got what nassau county taxpayers needed and they took care of the basics. Maybe the budget got away because they refused to raise taxes as soon as they should have and maybe they tried everything else first. Maybe they were like the Schiavo parents while Suozzi is the guy who walked in the day after she awoke from the coma, pulled the plug and then took her money, his new girlfriend, his 2 new kids and gambled it away in los vegas leaving the rest of the world to ponder the very complex and unnerving problems of right to die - right to live issues. He's not someone I trust with my life, or my families life and my way of life, our surburban way of life - is in jeapardy because of him this very day. We can not afford another 4 years of tom suozzi. We can not.

It's about time the liberal teachers realize that having a liberal CE will not benefit them. Dem leaders like to take credit for everything good, but don't want to pay the people who create the good press for them, like teachers. The sooner the teachers realize that Liberal leaders are always out for the popular decisions (easy decision) not the right decisions the stronger they will be. If teachers want to continue voting and supporting guys like suozzi, levy, or even john kerry then they deserve what's coming to them. teachers deserve their salaries on LI and should support people who realize it......

[Amen Brother Bear]

Amen to that ! Amen I say!

teachers need to think about this a little harder....the right side looks out for the real leaders in the community: teachers, police officers, fire fighters, etc.......liberals need to smarten up!

[chiming in 2]

"teacher" comments are so predictable. They are the most obvious "one issue" group out there. It doesn't matter if a candidate is preaching that raw sewage should be connected to our water supply system; teachers would still vote for the guy as long as he had positions compatible with, and advantageous to, the teaching profession. If some clown was a mass murderer, as long as he promoted higher pay for teachers they'd support him.

....and teachers love to complain about everything: pay, working conditions, and EVEN time off if you can believe that!! there is nothing worse than a "know-it-all teacher" who can't think outside the box and admit that some of the people they voted for sand bagged them. i have great respect for teachers, but they need to reconsider their choices for candidates or just deal with who they chose and stop complaining.

[Teachers Against Suozzi]

The case against Suozzi by the teachers is simple. Tom Suozzi and Jay Jacobs have deeply offended pro choice Suozzi believes he can attack the teacher's union on policy issues, and still expect their support Countywide in 2005, and Statewide in 2006, merely because he is a Democrat. Suozzi's treatment of the teacher's union is simlar to his and Jay Jacobs's shabby treatment of reproductive freedom advocates within the Democratic Party. Suozzi has to be taught a lesson that he cannot ignore his party's base and expect to retain support and win elections.

[chiming in 2]

Anyone willing to bet on the next election? I say its Suozzi in a landslide and about all just about every poster on this site will be able to do is continue complaining on this site, knowing that you are in the definite minority.

And to my Republican friends on this site, you act like a spoiled teenager who had the Cadillac to drive around in for 40 years and its been taken away from you and you want it back NOW; and, worst of all, you're no longer in the inner political circle (meaning you're going thru feelings of worthlessness and powerlessness, if that's even a word) which if you analyze things is probably the MAIN reason you want Suozzi out.

{And to my Republican friends on this site, you act like a spoiled teenager who had the Cadillac to drive around in for 40 years and its been taken away from you and you want it back NOW; and, worst of all, you're no longer in the inner political circle (meaning you're going thru feelings of worthlessness and powerlessness, if that's even a word) which if you analyze things is probably the MAIN reason you want Suozzi out.} -quote from an intelligent author.

You have to be kidding me with the above post. powerlessness??? Last time i checked the GOP was in charge of this country and a vast number of Republicans were controlling our government. Unfortunately we live in liberal land ny and do not get the good press you liberal lovers dig for (or just create it like your very own Mr. Rather.... by the way where is he working now?) Go anywhere else in the country, besides MA, where there are normal hard working people and you will see faithful republicans who love this country and don't protest EVERYTHING like the whining liberals. -also nice reference about the teenager and the caddy...a caddy is really every 18 year old's dream car, grandpa .........

[You are jerk off]

Guest - get a job yourself huh. Nobody is saying anything that isn't true. It's all true and it's all fact. Talk about worthlessness and powerlessness - you are the prime example. Those of us on here who post against Suozzi do so by talking in specifics - we have the details. We are giving specific examples of his incompetency and most of the facts we are using come from newspaper accountings and his own agency statistics, despite the newsday slant and their attempts to hide the truth from the public. He says he's against high rise low income rentals yet that is the primary plan written into his economic development book which is harder to get a copy of than the county charter he keeps violating. You are the one that does nothing but rant and rave about the GOP but it smells like you are the one who needs Suozzi for your bread and butter. You have said nothing. Nothing. All you do is cry and use the same old tired whinning. The truth is you can't rebut anything that's been said because it's all true and it's all specific and it all points to bringing down your idiot savrant in Novemeber. Sorry kid - that's what it is.

[poly suicide]

Anyone willing to bet on the next election? I say its Suozzi in a landslide and about all just about every poster on this site will be able to do is continue complaining on this site, knowing that you are in the definite minority.

And to my Republican friends on this site, you act like a spoiled teenager who had the Cadillac to drive around in for 40 years and its been taken away from you and you want it back NOW; and, worst of all, you're no longer in the inner political circle (meaning you're going thru feelings of worthlessness and powerlessness, if that's even a word) which if you analyze things is probably the MAIN reason you want Suozzi out.

No way Suozzi wins. He and Jay Jacobs have offended too many important core democratic constituencies including, NIMBYISTS, Teachers, and Pro Choicers. Suozzi will have trouble turning out his voters..... Peterson and the Republicans will not have such difficulties.

Even if Suozzi wins in 2005, he'll still be in Mineola, NY in 2007.

[He better not win]

Of course he's not going to Albany or Washington or anywhere else except maybe back to his beloved Glen Cove - if they'll have him. That's why it's so important to kick him out of Nassau County because he can destroy us in 4 more years. He's already off to a good start and he's cramming as much of his crazy schemes in between now and November as he can.

[chiming in 2]

It's a lock for Suozzi, just like its a lock for Levy in Suffolk. Just watch. And, the fact that he's pissed off the teacher's union isn't exactly a strike against ol' tom. When was the last time any of us saw a groundswell of support for the teacher's union by non-teacher voters out there? Pissing off the teacher's union just may be something that turns out to be a net gain for Suozzi. he knows exactly what he's doing.

[Are you kidding fool?]

Remember a man called D'amato? Who do you think took him down? The teacher's union fool. If you think they aren't a power to be reckoned with you just keep your opinions coming so the rest of us can laugh at them. Combine the teachers union with the civil service union - who hate him - and the police benevolent association - who hate him - with the firefighteres - who hate him - and basically all you have left are the NYC appointees who can't vote. He can spend all their money - but he can't get their votes. Take a poll and see for yourself.

[Disgruntled Taxpayer I]

Remember a man called D'amato? Who do you think took him down? The teacher's union fool. If you think they aren't a power to be reckoned with you just keep your opinions coming so the rest of us can laugh at them. Combine the teachers union with the civil service union - who hate him - and the police benevolent association - who hate him - with the firefighteres - who hate him - and basically all you have left are the NYC appointees who can't vote. He can spend all their money - but he can't get their votes. Take a poll and see for yourself.


"Are You Kidding Fool" is a genius! It is highly plausible that Suozzi loses in the Towns of Hempstead and Oyster Bay, and has lower than needed turnouts in North Hempstead, City of Long Beach, and the Syosset/Woodbury/Plainivew area to offset the GOP in the Towns. The GOPers will either a) go back to the GOP or b) not vote at all. The teachers, civil service unions, PBA, volunteer fire fighters, and the school districts will all pull for Peterson or just not show up at the polls. Suozzi has alienated alot of people, and who bunch of notaries from Queens will not help him win the fight he needs to win in November.

[You rock DT]

Dude - aint it the truth though? 8)

[Suozzi Lover]

I don't know what your problem is. All of my pals over at GOP HQ love Suozzi. We never turn down a negative campaign especially if the opposition is waging it against themselves.

[a good question]

Will teachers support Tom Suozzi in 2005 or 2006?

[Nothing to support in 06]

If Suozzi doesn't win in 2005 there won't be anything to support him for in 2006. Unless he mends alot of fences fast, there won't be anything to support him for in 2006 anyway, except for maybe a token run at some insignificant post. That means, unless he's dumped in 2005, we're gonna be stuck with a dead head CE for 4 more years.

[Nothing to support in 05]

He's got nothing to support in 2005 either. DiNapoli should primary him now - this time it would be a different story.

[Bumpy Ride]

:roll:

[spirit of inquiry]

The Teacher's Union must be nervous about Suozzi's flirtation with the right, and all of his right to life talk. What is the word on the street? Holla! Holla!

[Word on the Street has it]

Not sure about that but the administrators are getting very uptight with Balboni's proposals to prohibit submitting a school budget more than one time.

[TEACHERS & PTA]

the teachers are the fat cats

no they are the hard working ones
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[TEACHERS & PTA]

Not sure about that but the administrators are getting very uptight with Balboni's proposals to prohibit submitting a school budget more than one time.
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[Multiple budgets]

Isn't that the way they do it in Albany? It's always a budget proposal that gets tweeked back and forth until there's a fair compromise between the factions voting on it. Why does anybody think they should impose stricter requirements on the school districts then the government has on its own budgets?

[bad idea - shouldn't pass]

that's not a good idea

Balboni's ideas about education are all washed up. It's amazing he got another term. It' probably his last.

And Suozzi's ideas are even worse. Send him back to accounting in November 2005. A vote for Peterson is a vote for unions and that includes tenured teachers too.

Well, he did say that if his public plans don't work out - he'd go back to the private sector didn't he? And we all know he has no interest in running Nassau County - it's not a job he wants - it's not a job he ever really wanted. He wants to be Governor or he'll go work - or try to work (let's see how long he can last) in the private sector and let's not make him wait to get started in his new career. Why not send him there this November and let him get a head start.

[The Montessouri School]

Of course Suozzi doesn't believe teachers should be insulated and protected from politically sensitive jobs where administrative positions are turned over faster than the new SCOPE directory's can get published. Suozzi vision of life is from a sheltered backdrop of private schools where some over the hill hippie can get a job as a "teacher" who believes a "group hug" will prepare children for the reality of the world.

[Don't Need No Hugging]

Kids don't need hugs and special attention unless you want them to grow up to become spoiled prima donnas who's only chance at getting a decent paying job is if some political hack gives them one.


On another note :

Is this teachers union supporting Greg Peterson?

[chiming]

unions, unions, unions. The pure and noble principles upon which the entire concepts of unions were originally based, are long-gone. In their place are arrogant positions, obsurd demands and an ignorance to the reality of today's world that is hard to comprehend.

If Suozzi is anti-union, more power to him. Union power, union leverage, the ability to make things happen "the union's way", doesn't make it right. The few noble and correct positions unions take on some issues, are completely obliterated by the many, many ridiculous and arrogant positions most unions take time and again. For the vast majority of hard workers out there, the purpose of unions has been lost in self-absorbed, me-first attitudes adopted by union leadership and their members rather than looking at the bigger picture.

Years and years ago, unions in the construction trades shot themselves in the foot with unrealistically high salaries, corruption through the roof, no-show jobs, more break-time than work time, and on and on. This country got a close-up, first-hand look at just what can happen to the union trades when economic times go bad. The members of those unions learned a tough lesson is pay-back. Do those unions even have the slightest comprehension that economic times go south mainly as a result of the actions of the unions themselves or do they to this day blame some external factor?

Take literally any of the large unions, including the infamous teacher's unions, and take a good, hard, OBJECTIVE look at them.

I can quite honestly only think of one union that has the "good" fight to fight. And that is any union representing hardworking, relatively low paying jobs in the health-care related industries (nurses, etc. ).

[Take A Breath and Live]

Nobody is interested in what you think about unions. If you were offered a union job you'd probably jump at it. Truth is - no union probably wants you because you're not qualifed to do anything.

The question posed was a yes or no - and for teachers - which you are so obviously not.

Well, I am a teacher and this will be the first election I am pulling a straight republican lever.

[chiming]

Nobody is interested in what you think about unions. If you were offered a union job you'd probably jump at it. Truth is - no union probably wants you because you're not qualifed to do anything.

The question posed was a yes or no - and for teachers - which you are so obviously not.

Well, I am a teacher and this will be the first election I am pulling a straight republican lever.

Wrongo. I am a licensed professional and I've watched unions shoot themselves in the foot many times. I am gainfully employed and I have NEVER opted to job-search for a position that was unionized. In too many instances, a union job, especially jobs with a government agency, means putting yourself on cruise control. I'm not saying every union person is lazy. I'm saying that there is a much higher percentage of lazy slobs in union positions than in non-union positions.

So, you might not be interested in what I have to say, but I'd LOVE to hear your position on non-union contruction workers being harrassed, or the companys that hired them being harrassed, by the unions for no other reason than the unions simply want EVERY job out there to go to them. Who in the hell are these union a-holes who think they have the right to harrass and intimidate others simply because a job went non-union? Such arrogance.

Teachers unions....forcing districts to spend quite possibly hundreds and thousands of dollars to get rid of an incompetent peer.

Getting into a union means a number of things, but none of them anything even remotely translates to a significant achievement that I'd go to my grave being proud of. Let's see what getting into a union means: a) you knew someone; b) you paid someone under the table; c) you passed a test where you managed to figure out that the round peg goes into the round hole; d) you simply managed to keep your position long enough to qualify for a permanent unionized position; e) your name was on a list for what seemed forever and your "turn" finally came up.

And should we even get to the corruption issues virtually every large union is faced with????

[Teacher for CE Peterson]

I'm a teacher also and I'm voting for Greg Peterson - too much has gone downhill too fast because of Suozz's malfeasance and inattention to the important things Nassau County needs a County Executive to pay attention too. The quality of our life here is more important to some economic fluke.

[Teacher's against Suozzi]

Save your job and your County - vote for Greg Peterson.


PS - Suozzi only pulled a temporary budget fix - he's leading us into bankruptcy all over again in 2006 and this time - he's raised taxes so much already that he's killed the only last resort position the County had. NOW we're really in trouble.

Row A in November.

[Teachers for Peterson]

Suozzi is a metrosexual who cares only about appearances. He's all talk and no walk and all he did in his 4 years is talk - now he's sweating because he's trying to pretty up the county before he gets destroyed in the fall when the election campaign really heats up by running around with cans of leftover yellow and green paint from the state buildings painting everything.

My vote - Greg Peterson.

A real Man of substance and conviction.

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[What do you expect?]

A rich guy like Suozzi who was born with a silver spoon in his mouth has no use for, or respect for, the public school system or it's teachers. He looks down upon them like they are second class citizens, just like he looks down upon all public servants and working class. Didn't you hear him on the radio show when they asked him why he wanted to be CE? He said "because I like the attention". That, in a nutshell wraps up all there is of Tom Suozzi. Nothing. Empty.

Greg Peterson is my man for CE too. Another outspoken teacher.

[chiming]

Nothing? Empty? Sounds like a disgruntled Republican. The county just got its rating bumped up two more notches. Oh, yeah. Suozzi had NOTHING to do with that. Nothing. Empty.

And of yeah. Since this thread is about tenure, it WILL one day be eliminated. It has to go because it really is a dinosaur. The whole concept is simply not in step with the way today's world works. All of the fighting and shouting is just prolonging the inevidible. Shout loud enough and it just might last until you retire. But one day, it will be nothing but a memory. And good riddance, I say. It does much more harm than good. And this is coming from someone whose wife received tenure and worked damn hard for it, deserves it, and on and on. But looking at the bigger picture, it just isn't right.

[Got run off the other sit]

Chiming - this is the negative, name calling guy who got run off the other political website because he'd go on forever with these philosophical rants about nothing anybody could understand or care about and killed off every thread he got involved with because he never contributed anything except infantile commentary. Ignore anything you see with this name and check out his style incase he pops up again with another Suozzi like tag.

HEY - maybe Suozzi can raise taxes another 20% and the rating will get bumped up another 2 notches! Idiot.

Back to the thread - Suozzi is against all union workers because he thinks people in the middle socioeconomic class should all be enslaved by the wealthy patriots like himself - and he wants complete control over everybody and thinks everyone appointed to a top post should be able to hire and fire depending on what mood they got up in the morning and who is contributing how much to their favorite politicians of the day. He hates rules, he hates laws and he has a real problem with authority or anything that prevents him from doing exactly what he wants, when he wants it.

A vote for Peterson is a vote for the working class.

[chiming]

hey that hurt. I'm still voting for Souzzi. And....where in the hell were the taxes supposed to go after Gulotta's terms??? Everything costs more. Everything. And he never raised taxes. Spread out the damn 20% in taxes Suozzi raised taxes by, over the many years of no increases and see what you get in the way of an average annual tax hike per year. Clowns like the last poster never acknowledge that if an administration never raises taxes while still maintaining all services year after damn year, what in the hell do you expect the next administration to have to do to get to a balanced budget.

[Yeah - everything did]

Yeah - under Tom Suozzi patronage went up $16 million dollars - that was 2 years ago according to the NY Times and he's been adding those NYC politico's to his payroll ever since.

Unfortunately, I find it's true about changing the minds of the Suozzi voters. The thicker the skull, the stronger the Suozzi supporter is - very little gets in except what they want to believe - they aren't the brightest bulbs I'm afraid.

I'm really afraid too.

[To hell w problem family]

Maybe they got taught in large, Levinson classrooms.


Suozzi has no use for the broken families either - part of the problem are the areas of domestic violence, divorce, spousal abuse of drugs or alcoholism, jail. Part of the problems the area schools have with these kids are that they are acting out because of trouble at home, single family homes and poverty. Suozzi cut the force that investigates deadbeat dads - both the sheriff's department and the cops and he cut support for the free legal services in domestic violence/divorce and landlord-tenant eviction and social services that the NSLSC used to provide - forcing them to cut back staff 25% - and these were mostly volunteer lawyers who charged little or nothing to poor people in the community that needed help and couldn't afford it. Suozzi ignored EAC too, until recently, and the only reason he funded them and 2 other youth agencies is because he had his democratics run around from BOE on county time, getting paid with county taxpayer money, to put Hall in charge of Hempstead Village. It's all politics with him - nothing matters to him and he doesn't do anything because it's the right thing - he does only what he think will benefit him personally in his run for Albany.


Instead of trying to help schools cope with problems that stem from kids in broken homes and with problems, Suozzi just blames the schools for everything and their solution is to get rid of tenure so they can fire teachers and make the classrooms bigger to accomodate more kids with less teachers. They're idiots and that's why the Suozzi administration has to go.

SUOZZI IS AGAINST ALL UNIONS HE IS ANTI UNION!!!!!

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[Ghetto Classrooms]

Actually, it's not funny that these idiots rooting for Suozzi and team are just so stupid that they don't even know what they are rooting for. Levinson actually said in black and white when he came to Franklyn Square & area that he advocated less teachers and bigger classrooms. Suozzi is against teacher tenure so the most experienced and highest paid teachers can be fired and replaced with patronage dolls who couldn't even handle a small classroom, let alone Levinson's larger ones. As the State pushes up the pressure on these kids - Levinson and Suozzi want to dump them in systems like inner city Ghetto's have. If you people even had any clue about what the current administration actually has in mind for Nassau County, you wouldn't be spending so much of your time trying to defend that which the rest of us know - is not defendable.

Although I have to admit it was hard to hear Levinson over all the ruckas the sanitation guys were making in the background - seems they think they have pretty important jobs - keeping the trash and smells from piling up like some city street. Funny thing too - the residents think so too because the sanitation guys were getting more thumbs up than Levinson got - the putz.

[Inner city ghetto classes]

And if they get away with that what's next? Deleting programs and extra-curricular activities? Going after school buses and nutritious lunch programs? No more TA's , school nurses or guidance counsellors? If they so obviously care so little for our children now, while there's a campaign going on - what will become of us later - when they think they have noone to answer to and no longer need to kiss anybody's rear end for a vote?

I'm voting these people away. Peterson has to better for our kids and our schools.

[english promptors]

yeah, and the classes will be given in spanish with the english translation between flashed up on an overhead projector for the minority of english speaking students.

:roll:

[Anti Nassau County]

Suozzi is Anti- Nassau County

[Teachers Have The Power]

The CSEA put Suozzi's living doll back up on the shelf - despite Suozzi & his staffers campaigning day and night for the FORMER CSEA President who lived in Suozzi's pant's pocket - and despite all the tricks they pulled - the CSEA members stuck together and held strong and VOTED that woman out of office. They plan on making Suozzi next. If they can do it - so can the teachers. After all - it was the teachers who put D'Amato out of office. So teachers - be strong and hang tuff. The teachers are one group Suozzi can't rely on for votes through stupidity. The teachers and CSEA together will provide a most formidable wall against Suozzi and safeguard the system of teacher tenure and special elections.

[go go gone]

:oops:

[Our Kids have no chance]

Tuesday, June 27, 2005
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All women who are working, have spouses working two jobs to cover your recent tax increases, supplimentig programs eliminated in your childrens school's due to budget issues, women who have to find more and more creative solutions to tell your children, no honey , not this year, women who have to worry about elevated aceptable bacteria levels set by Nassau County for our beaches; women who will need pepper spay to ward off rabid animals in Nassau County parks! all the women who watch this summer as the entitlement children from the broughs of NYC use the resourses, their spouses and themselves pay to provide, The current provision of Suozzi's "Fresh Air Fund" provides for others and not our own. Women who think their teenage children should be given the same opportunity as citizens of Zambia
( another democratic hack hired by Suozzi) at $65.00 per hour. Crap my kid's would be greatful for minimum wage!

Please join us in protest June 27th, 2005 at the Harrison House on Woolsy Lane, Glen Cove and help Tom Suozzi and his wife celebrate "The Women in Tom Suozzi's Life"!

Other then the select few on his North Shore "A" list , (even his hired political mouth peice lives in a spactacular waterfront Villa) us the majority who do not live in multi-milloin dollars homes like Mrs.Souzzi,financed by special developer friends, can present to these very special women how the other half live's.

Bring your tax bill, bring your reassesment papers! Demand that the special place for the North Shore elite take a voucher so your child too can enjoy the privlage of private camp facilities, while other non residents use our parks & pool's.

Let's help the Suozzi Family celebrate " The Women in his Life" along with the overburdened women who suffer under his damage and abuse.

[You can do it]

If CSEA could knock out Jane, then teachers can protect themselves too by voting for Greg Peterson. Together, the union members can pull together and knock out Suozzi - November 2005. Watch how strong you are - all you need to do is vote.

[PBA Joins In]

The cops are joining in the fight against Suozzi too. If Suozzi gets his way - he'd hired outside consultants from Buffalo to take care of the policing of Nassau County.

Wait till Suozzi's 4.25% energy tax kicks in with Lipa's utility increase in the middle of February. How many old people and poor people will freeze to death and how many working class people will have to eat rice and beans three times a week to pay their basic bills? Thanks to Suozzi's 20% property tax increase and failure to adjust to the downward grants of assessments forward for the years after the homeowner's win their assessment hearings - how many for sale signs are in your neighborhood?

Peterson for 2005. Save the County

[Save the County]

Dump Suozzi.

if he isn't he should be. We can't afford their salaries anymore!

[Mr. Smartypants]

First of all - tenure has nothing to do with teacher's salary's or teacher's contracts. Second of all, what we can't afford is Suozzi anymore.

With all of the failed budgets - the rises of reitrement and insurance for teachers. Who isn't anti-teacher's union. They'd sail a kid down the river to get their piece of the pie.

[I'm not against it]

Anybody with a brain in their head, kids in school and knowledge of the inner political workings of schools is for tenure.

I take exception to that. I'm for tenure in principle but believes there needs to be tenure reform. And my friend, I have a brain in my head, kids in the schools and knowledge of the political workings of schools. And (hold your breath) I'm a teacher who works my butt off and am sick of some of my colleagues who came into the profession so they could spend time with their kids when their kids are off from school. Who come to work late and who teach the same lesson and give the same tests for 5 years in a row getting a security blanket when they dont' deserve it. Tenure is protection from politics, but shouldn't be a lifeline for teachers who aren't cutting it.

[Kidding yourself]

Don't think doing away with tenure weeds out bad teachers - it doesn't. They just show up in different places - and there will always be jobs for them and their salaries don't necessarily lag behind that of tenured teachers. Schools aren't giving tenure out as readily as they once did. I know a teacher who is teaching primarily because she likes the summers off, the hours and doesn't want to have to go back to 12 month, 10 hour days in her original field. She's not crazy about high schoolers, and is really just interested in the well behaved, brighter kids. She's alittle dull - her personality is kinda drone - probably not a very interesting teacher and her biggest problem - parents. So no tenure in 5 years she's been teaching. But in 5 years she's been teaching, no lack of jobs either. This is her 6th year, her 6th year teaching and her salary is comparable to what it would have been had she gotten tenured. So tenure is not saving your kids from anything, and it's not going to decrease teacher salary. Tenure is going to do exactly that which it was established to do - save good teachers from political assassination when superintendents and principals changeover.

[Flattering Yourself]

Good teachers are generally recognized as such by Boards of Education. Even if a new Principal wants to replace teachers with his buddies it's hard to imagine the community going along with it if we're really talking "good teacher" as in "one who has a flair for teaching" as opposed to "one who is popular with the other teachers." My experience is that good teachers have as much trouble with the union, if not more, than they do with administration.

[Flattered]

Adminstrators are political appointees and they then become the ones that hire and fire and recommend for awards or promotions and salary increases. These politicians and their relatives appointed to administrative jobs are the ones that decide who gets extra money by giving them tutoring, after school, coaching jobs ect. and what resources they get for the classrooms and who gets to go on overseas student trips in the name of education. Being a good teacher has nothing to do with being in the circle that the administrators hold near and dear - and it doesn't even mean being popular with other teachers - being a tattle and giving the juice to head guy might not make you popular with your colleagues, and you don't have to be a good teacher - but if you're in with the in crowd your job is safe - otherwise it's not without tenure. If you think office pettiness and vindictiveness doesn't exist at this level - think again. It starts there.

[Teachers]

Very true and very good post.

[Chalk Talk]

Pettiness and jealousy are alive and well in the teachers room. The union is a mediocracy.

[Maybe so but]

but even the pettiness and jealously in the teacher's room is pretty meaningless since the colleagues have no real power - the power is with the political appointees and those are the administrators and that's why there's tenure - same reason why there's civil service. The managers are appointed and come and go with the political environment. If the laborers were at will the managers would be hiring and firing all the time - political contributors and supporters would get jobs and there would be no continuity.

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[Imaginethatk]

Just look at Suozzi's administration. He pushed out, fired or laid off tons of people throughout his 4 year tenure and replaced them with crooks, criminals and incompetent money men because it suited his personal agenda. Imagine if that was the school district who could push out teachers and fill the jobs with cronies every time there was a new superintendent, principal or board appointed?

[chiming in 2]

Just look at Suozzi's administration. He pushed out, fired or laid off tons of people throughout his 4 year tenure and replaced them with crooks, criminals and incompetent money men because it suited his personal agenda. Imagine if that was the school district who could push out teachers and fill the jobs with cronies every time there was a new superintendent, principal or board appointed?

I'd put his administration's record up against the previous Republican administration, or most of the Republican administrations, any day of the week. Any administration is going to have its share of scandals because for the most part the individuals who are appointed to mid- to high-level positions are egocentric to begin with and already have the "I have this perc coming to me" mentality before even becoming part of an administration. Please tell me that most people who are so dedicated their party don't serve, at least in large part, to satisfy their own thirst for recognition and power. That's why there's so much of this crap going on in any administration.

But, relative to some of the stuff we hear about in the Republican party, the Suozzi stuff seems pretty small in comparison.

I am not relieving him of responsibility, especially when stuff comes to his attention and he blows it in the way he handles it. I'm just saying that some posters here who talk about crooks, cronies, etc., make me shake my head, because they are quite obviously from the other party; and, it's pretty unbelievable that you can ignore the crap that occurs in your own party and yet mouth off with a wonderful selection of words that actually seem to apply more aptly to your own party.

I'm done. Have a safe and happy Labor Day weekend.

[Only 1]

Partially true but there's a big difference between hiring criminals (Weitzman bringing on the Newsday accountant convicted of fraud - Suozzi bringing on Botwin & Borin after their departments were involved in bribery & kickbacks) and hiring people who have an "entitlement" mentality (not unlike many welfare recipients) and people committing crimes (Sylver, Dennenberg, Gross, Cataldo, Shwana) or being close to indictments (Klein - improper but not illegal) and others being investigated now or having served very closely with Suozzi (Glen Cove for example). The GOP had one major scandal - that was BPA - and really - that was a business deal gone bad which was more poor judgment (Alla Martha Stewart) on the part of the County workers than Enron - which was the private insurers that duped the County.

:idea:

[Garbage pick up]

I heard Levinson is going to require all teachers in the TOH to earn their keep by doing garbage pick-up on alternate weekends and if a resident has more garbage then bimonthly pickups will allow, he'll raise their tax assessments accordingly and re-classify their home as a pig pen, thus increasing their tax rates.

:D :shock: :cry: :P :evil: :arrow:

that is bullshit. Where did you get this information from!? Levinson doesn't have the authority to do this.

[teacher smeacher]

no they are the relentless takers who whine everytime they have to give a morsel when they take the whole kit and kaboodle. I'm tired of teachers. I'm tired of teacher's unions. And I'm tired to communities, BOEs, and administrators placating them and their one-sided interests.

[Enoughs Enough]

ENOUGH WITH THE TEACHER BASHING. DON'T YOU REALIZE ITS UNPRODUCTIVE!

[Authorization?]

Where does Levinson get the authority from to do something he wants to do? Why, from Tom Suozzi of course. You should know by now that Suozzi & Team think they are their own governing body of authority for anything and everything they want to do and they don't let things like not have the authority to do something stand in their way.

[U mean like the Wang deal]

If Suozzi gets re-elected he'll have Nassau County looking Bell Blvd. in Bayside sooner than later. Teachers for Peterson. Here it now.

[Teachers Save Nassau Cty]

gregpeterson2005.com


Teachers vote row A.

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[In good company]

teachers, cops, firefighters, blue collar workers, union workers, civil servants, middle class - all voting out Suozzi. He's bad for all.

[Rn't U glad U use Dial?]

Don't you wish everyone in the Suozzi administration did?

Maybe they wouldn't stink so bad.

:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

[Suozzi smells himself]

Apparently, Greg Peterson has already convinced Suozzi that nobody wants what Suozzi wants, so now Suozzi isn't even man enough to stick to his own guns - instead he's decided that he's not now attracted to his own ideas anymore! What a jerk. He must smell himself and even he can't stand his own stink anymore. So now he says, he's no longer attracted to the 60 story skyscraper plan he pretty much guaranteed to Wang alread. Vote for Peterson - the thinking man's man

[Comb back that hair]

Suozzi has style. That's all he has. He can't stay attracted to his own projects long enough to support them through. The man is dangerously flimsy. Bye bye Suoozi.

He's no longer attractive to me.

I'm voting for Peterson. I like his vision for Nassau County. I like his realistic perspective. And he's a nice guy that'll do the right thing because he wants Nassau County to stay good for his 3 daughters and the grandkids to come! Suozzi's outta here. What does he care? Him and his NYC rejects.

[Nassau Community College]

Nassau Community College - Case in point.

Suozzi does not negotiate in good faith & he hates teachers, administrators and laborers - unless they're illegal and come from latino communities.

[chiming in 2]

Fact: Suozzi is going to win, and win big. The grumblings I hear are from either of two main groups: life-long republicans who still can't get used to the fact that they messed up big-time under the Gulotta administration; and they can't comprehend why most of the public recognizes they are much better off now than they were under "hold the line" Gulotta. The other group is the teachers union, which is just not used to being pampered by a politician, because taking the other side of the table from the teachers is usually political suicide. At least, that was the old way of thinking. Suozzi is smart...he knows that most of the public is backing his hardline approach to the teachers unions. And THAT'S a fact.

[chiming in 2]

opps....what i meant to say is the teacher's union is just not used to NOT being pampered by a politician. key point.

[Flip Flopping Suozzi]

Now you sound like Suozzi. One minute he's for abortion, the next he's against. One minute he's supporting Klein, the next the guy is forced to quit. One minute he's backing a 60 story tower, the next he's not attracted to it. Please. Suozzi stands for nothing except whatever his publicity maven for the day tells him he should stand for. It won't be long now. Stick together on November 8th and we can soon be rid of the empty suited Suozzi by voting for Peterson. THEN we can really work on fixing Nassau.

[Not attracted to trees]

What if he gets re-elected and wakes up one morning and thinks - I'm no longer attracted to trees? ANd orders a $65 per hour gardener to cut them all down? No, the kid is too unstable for me. He needs a few more years to mature and grow - I'm glad he's learned alot but I'm tired of paying for these guys to get on the job experience. I'm voting for Peterson this time around and maybe I'll give Suozzi another chance again someday. But he's done too much damage in too short a time and I'm afraid what another year will yield - especially since his budget next year contains alot of extra spending that is unfunded and a proposed energy tax on top of increased property taxes and a Levinson income tax study. Bye Bye Suozzi. I'll roll the dice with Peterson this time around. My kids don't want me moving just yet.