Teachers 100X Greater To Sexually Accost Kids Then Priests

[TeacherLeecher]

In a disturbing study by a university, it showed teachers were more likely to abuse children sexually then priests by over one hundred times greater.

This in light of several news stories about attractive young female teachers having sex with their 14 year old and younger male students. The report goes on to say that it is hard to go after many of these teachers because the teacher unions are so powerful and politically connected.

From 1991-2000 nearly 300,000 children in the country were sexually abused in some way by a teacher. The study also said this could be the tip of the iceberg. Think of this the next time the school budget comes up and the teachers union says you better pass the budget or else. :cry:

[Cracker Jack]

What university study are you talking about and what would this have to do with the school budget? If you want to stop paying teachers so much, the way to do that is to SUPPORT YOUR BOARD DURING TEACHER CONTRACT NEGOTIATIONS. When the teachers are picketing on one side of the street you could be picketing on the other. But it's just easier to spend 2 minutes a year voting no and the rest complaining isn't it? Voting no on a school budget doesn't stop child abuse.

[academianuts]

I believe the study was done over at Hofstra College. It is a legitimate study.

a) there is no such thing as hofstra college
b) I could only dream about being molested by my teacher when i was 13!
then i always woke up all shtanky

that's gross

[more pay for women teache]

If young attractive female teachers were paid more, then they could afford to go out to clubs and meet men. It's not their fault!

and getting grosser! have you no decency?

Hey lets be smart - how on earth could someone do a scientific study and so what

whoever started this post should write for the enquirer

the topic is important especially if true

we owe it to our kids that they are not being preyed upon by adults who are in charge of their safety and education

while some news reports of late have sensationalized young sexy good looking women teachers who have seduced boys under 15 years of age its still statutory rape of a minor

no parent in their right mind would want that to occur and also it is far more prevalent then many parents realize

girls are far more abused by their teachers and it often goes unreported out of unwarranted guilt or shame the girl feels or threat by the teacher

[Spellchecker]

I just caught this as I was scanning the banality this morning. Teachers Assault Kids THEN Priests???? Maybe this poster's teachers should have spent some time on grammar!

[point should be taken]

the topic evidently disturbs some
maybe thats a good thing
spellchecker and his/her sort would just rather ignore the issue

[Spellchecker]

IF having a student graduate high school not knowing the difference between the word "then" and "than" more disturbing THAN some made up story about a study by an institution that does not exist THEN you would be right. FACTS are always nice to have though don't you think? Give us the name of the study and where we can find it and THEN you have more THAN a bunch of sensational drivel.

[1223]

oh no :roll: :roll:

Check out school district 20 in Lyyynbrooook. it has been said a Student (female) was victimized by a teacher (male) who has not returned to school this year.

[more common place]

more common place than teachers or their unions admit to


keeping public in the dark keeps the bad apples out of the limelight :twisted:

Added this latest story to the ongoing list:

http://www.thehammontonnews.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20050914/NEWS01/509140328/1002

so what should we do about this? castrate all teachers?

i don't understand the meaning of this post either.

IT MEANS TEACHERS ARE MOLESTERES TOO. AND DISTRICTS ARE TRYING TO COVER IT UP LIKE THE ARCHDIOCESE.

Sarah Suzanne Bench-Salorio, 28, of Orange, was charged with 20 counts of lewd acts on a child under 14 years old. The suspect, who taught for two years at Santiago Charter Middle School, was arrested Tuesday, a day after one of the boys told his parents about the alleged contact with his former teacher, Sgt. Dave Hill said.

Bench-Salorio, who taught reading and English, was booked Wednesday at the Orange County Jail, with bond set at $1 million, a jail clerk said.

"Our investigation indicates that the teacher initiated the sexual contact, and that this contact took place over a period of several months," Hill said. "We're looking at events that spanned several months throughout 2004, and part of that investigation is to determine if it happened sooner than that. We believe the contact took place at various locations and we're investigating whether it was at the parties' homes or the school."

After the one boy came forward, a follow-up investigation "determined there was a second victim," Hill said, but he did not know if both boys knew about each other.

"We are confident in the solidity of our charges," he said.

The district attorney said Bench-Solorio seduced the students over dinner, and through e-mails and phone calls, during a series of months before the alleged sexual contact.

An attorney for Bench-Solorio said she is "embarrassed."

She did not enter a plea Thursday. Another court appearance is scheduled for next week.

Bench-Salorio is married to Christopher Salorio, 30, an electrical foreman who garnered 45 percent of votes but lost a bid for trustee in the Orange Unified School District in the November election, the Los Angeles Times reported. The couple are raising his three siblings -- ages 5, 10 and 14 -- as foster children, according to the newspaper.

Orange Unified School District Superintendent Robert French said Bench-Salorio has been placed on administrative leave, and the district is cooperating in the investigation.

"This is a personnel matter, and on that basis the district can give no additional information. However, the primary concern of the district is always the safety and welfare of its students," French said.

Under provisions of the California Penal Code, police notified the California Commission on Teacher Credentialing of Bench-Salorio's arrest, Hill said.

Investigators are trying to determine if there are other victims, he said. Anyone with information that may be pertinent to the case is asked to call the Orange Police Department at (714) 744-7444.

(CBS) It used to be unthinkable, bit has become oddly routine: an attractive, married teacher accused of having a sexual relationship with a child.

Debra LaFave was charged last June. Basketball coach Pamela Turner was charged last week. And Mary Kay Letourneau finished a seven year prison term last year for her affair with a student, and has now set a date to marry him.

A recent Education Department report says nearly 7 percent of students have experienced unwanted sexual contact from an educator.

The Early Show correspondent Tracy Smith observes that, in each case, there was an accusation of sexual misconduct with a young male student, a grim walk through a gauntlet of TV cameras, and at home, a thoroughly mortified husband.

"Honestly, some days, I don't want to get out of bed in the morning," LaFave's husband, Owen LaFave, told Smith when she asked him how he gets through each day.

Owen had been married to Debra for less than a year. Both were young, attractive, professional, fun. Debra seemed to have it all. Then, last year, she was charged with having an affair with a 14-year-old boy.

The affair, Smith says, allegedly took place right under Owen's nose. Debra is said to have had sex with the student at school, in her car -- and in her home.

For Owen, the media coverage was especially cruel: "It was crushing, a tremendous amount of pain. And very humiliating…in the sense that I had a wife that was accused of having a relationship with a child.

"Then one of the comments mentioned was that I had an inability to perform or that I wasn't satisfying her. So, to hear those comments talked about openly on the public forum was humiliating. And difficult, I think, as a male in society to deal with."

In cases like these, Smith points out, there's also a belief -- by some -- that the male victims of abuse are somehow less victimized than females.

"Because she's pretty," says Mark Hart of the Hillsborough County School District, "there's a misconception that he's not a victim, but a stud. Well, he's not a stud, he's a victim."

"One of the reasons boys don't think of it as harmful," suggests CBS News legal analyst Wendy Murphy, "is, when they talk about it, they get a pat on the back – 'Atta boy, you lucky guy, you got it make it with your teacher.' We have to stop doing that to boys, because when they age into sexual maturity, that's when they start to realize that it really wasn't pleasurable, it really was abuse, and often, that's too late to do the repair work the victims need."

The trick, then, is looking for the warning signs -- but that may not be easy, Smith notes.

What kind of teacher was LaFave? "By all accounts," says Hart, "an outstanding teacher. Very positive performance evaluations, solid recommendations, and cleared the criminal background check required of all employees."

"It's unfortunate, but true, that the cheapest way to screen for potentially harmful teachers is to see whether they have a criminal record," Murphy points out. "But most teachers who hurt kids don't have criminal backgrounds. That doesn't mean they don't have a history of harming children."

In this case, even Debra's husband was blindsided. "Things were fine. Things were great. And this took me completely off guard," Owen recalls.

Some experts say the answer is to keep a closer eye on teachers.

"What we need to do better both as parents and school officials," Murphy says, "is a better job of recognizing the warning signs before a student is hurt. That means noticing teachers who are too close to kids, who may be touching them in an inappropriate manner, inviting them over to their homes, calling them at their homes at night. These kinds of minor boundary violations usually are a sign that something inappropriate is going on and that's the time to intervene.

"This is about the trust parents give us when they send their children to school," Hart commented. "Those are the kinds of issues we should be talking about, instead of dwelling on the lurid details."

Owen is now working on a documentary about teacher sex abuse. Smith says he hopes it'll help him gain some insight into why this happens, and perhaps bring some closure to a horrible chapter of his life.

Smith says parents shold incorporate teachers into their talks with kids about avoiding sex abuse as one way to help head off situations like these.

Female teachers accused of sex crimes against underage male students have been grabbing headlines lately. Many of them are young and beautiful, their stories sordid and intriguing.

But to law enforcement, they're something else — criminals who have committed statutory rape against a minor.

This week alone, two cases have hit the news: Cops say one Texas teacher, Kathy Denise White (search) had sex with a 17-year-old, and Tennessee teacher Pamela Rogers Turner (search) had sex with a 13-year-old boy.

They join at least three other recent cases: Florida teacher Debra LaFave (search), 24, is expected to plead insanity to charges she had sex with a 14-year-old student, according to her lawyer; California teacher Sarah Bench-Salorio (search), 28, allegedly molested two boys when they were 12 and 14; and 33-year-old California teacher Rebecca Boicelli (search) was arrested last month on statutory rape and related charges after DNA tests confirmed that a former student fathered her 2-year-old baby when he was 16.

All of them follow the trail laid by Mary Kay Letourneau (search), whom the media tracked again last year when she was released from prison after more than seven years. The former Seattle teacher said she’s still in love with her now-21-year-old student (who was 12 when she was 34 and fathered the first of the two children they had together); the pair have since reportedly gotten engaged.

A 29-year-old substitute teacher was arrested at Boone County High School in Florence Friday afternoon on charges she had sex with a 15-year-old student off school grounds over the summer.

Michelle Kush, of Fort Mitchell, was arrested at the Burlington Pike facility about 3:30 p.m. on two counts of third-degree (statutory) rape and one count of third-degree sodomy.

Deputy Tom Scheben, spokesman for the Boone County Sheriff's Department, said investigators believe Kush had sex on numerous occasions with the unidentified boy, some in Kenton County. But Scheben said it's likely that additional similar charges will be filed there.

Scheben said none of the incidents occurred on school property, but he did not know where detectives believe the acts occurred or how many there were. Scheben said Kush told investigators that she has substituted in other Northern Kentucky schools, but neither he nor Boone County School Superintendent Bryan Blavatt could say which.

"We have no indications there's ... another victim," Scheben said.

Blavatt said school officials contacted the sheriff's department after a deputy assigned to the high school received a tip.

He said he did not know where Kush had been substituting, or at which grade level, because it's up to individual schools to assign qualified substitutes. However, Blavatt said, like all substitute teachers in the system, Kush underwent a thorough background check before she was permitted to teach in Boone County.

"I wasn't present at the school. What I understand from staff there is that someone brought this to their attention. I'm not sure who," Blavatt said.

"But, we're only about 16 days into the school year and, in some ways, as outrageous as this whole thing is, it was handled very quickly and appropriately. ... The critical issue to us was none of this transpired at school."

Scheben said detectives believe Kush also provided alcohol to under-aged teens and charges of unlawful transaction with a minor are pending against her in Boone County. He said those incidents also occurred during the summer off school property, but he did not know whether the same boy was allegedly involved.

Scheben said he didn't know if Kush is married or has children.

Boone County High is a large school - with about 1,400 students - in a huge school district that serves more than 17,000 students in 19 schools, with 2,600 full and part-time employees. Blavatt, who has worked in education for 36 years in three states, said this case, allegedly involving a female teacher and male juvenile victim, was unusual in his experience.

"It honestly has some elements that are far different from any incidents I've dealt with before," Blavatt said.

A case involving then 41-year-old teacher Mary Kay Letourneau and her 13-year-old student, Vili Fualaau, in Washington state made international headlines when Letourneau was arrested for statutory rape in 1997 and bore Fualaau's child four months later. The two are now married.

Kush was in the Boone County Detention Center in Burlington Friday night awaiting her bond to be set. She is expected to be arraigned in Boone District Court on Monday.

Nassau Police have arrested a teacher for allegedly raping a student in Massapequa on Oct. 13, 2003.



The Special Victims Section of the Nassau County Police Department arrested Danny Rivera Cuesta, 29, of Coram on Sept. 2 at 11 a.m. in Suffolk County.



Cuesta is charged with the rape of a female student, who was 15 years old at the time, when she was a student at North Babylon High School. Cuesta worked at the same school at this time.



Cuesta was arraigned at First District Court in Hempstead on Sept. 2 on a charge of third degree rape.

Nassau County Police arrested a high school social studies teacher on Wednesday on charges that he has had sexual contact with a male and a female student.



Kyle Sabo, 25, of Levittown was charged with rape in the 3rd degree and three counts of criminal sexual act in the 3rd degree. Sabo taught at Division Avenue High School in Levittown. Authorities said an investigation started after Levittown School District officials received complaints about Sabo.



At various times and in separate incidents between April, 2003 and June, 2004, Sabo allegedly engaged in improper sexual activity with two students of the school. He will be arraigned at First District Court in Hempstead on June 23.

oh my god that's so funny (and so true).

[teachers, not predators]

How about we play fair here. What is your profession and the statistics of sexual deviancy that goes along with it? Does this mean that the next cop that bets on a football game will risk losing police funding for the entire city/state? Apples and oranges my mis informed friend.



In a disturbing study by a university, it showed teachers were more likely to abuse children sexually then priests by over one hundred times greater.

This in light of several news stories about attractive young female teachers having sex with their 14 year old and younger male students. The report goes on to say that it is hard to go after many of these teachers because the teacher unions are so powerful and politically connected.

From 1991-2000 nearly 300,000 children in the country were sexually abused in some way by a teacher. The study also said this could be the tip of the iceberg. Think of this the next time the school budget comes up and the teachers union says you better pass the budget or else. :cry:

the topic is important especially if true

we owe it to our kids that they are not being preyed upon by adults who are in charge of their safety and education

while some news reports of late have sensationalized young sexy good looking women teachers who have seduced boys under 15 years of age its still statutory rape of a minor

no parent in their right mind would want that to occur and also it is far more prevalent then many parents realize

girls are far more abused by their teachers and it often goes unreported out of unwarranted guilt or shame the girl feels or threat by the teacher


Sex Abuse by Teachers Said Worse Than Catholic Church
Jon E. Dougherty, Newsmax Monday, Apr. 05, 2004
In 2002, the Boston Globe uncovered a scandal of international proportions when it began running a series of investigative reports detailing dozens of cases in which Catholic priests had sexually abused scores of children.
The paper's damning revelations shook the church to its core, prompting outrage and calls for reform all the way from California to New York to the Vatican in Rome.
By year's end, some 1,200 priests had been accused of abuse nationwide, the New York Times reported, in an investigative report of its own. In the ensuing maelstrom, five U.S. prelates resigned. Also, bishops from Argentina, Germany, Ireland, Poland, Wales, Scotland, Canada, Switzerland and Austria were also forced out of the church. More than 80 percent of the church's victims were male.
Worse for the church, Americans discovered some of the most abusive priests were protected by upper echelons of the clergy. Repeated abusive offenses by men like Revs. James Porter and John Geoghan were covered up by the church or, when they occasionally were made public, dismissed as rarities or infrequent behavior.
These priests were moved around from diocese to diocese, given positions that limited their contact with children, or moved to administrative duties – but they usually found their way back into a parish, holding Mass and coming in contact with more potential victims.
In the end, the Vatican's credibility, the church itself, and the entire Catholic faith, was damaged to the point where it will take decades to repair; the U.S. Conference of Catholic Bishops, in a report on the nature and scope of the abuse problems, found almost 11,000 cases of abuse by about 4,000 priests and deacons since 1950.
"The heartfelt sorrow that we feel for this violation and the often ineffective ways with which it was dealt has strengthened our commitment to do everything possible to see that it does not happen again," said Bishop Wilton Gregory, president of the U.S. Conference of Catholic Bishops.
Now, on the heels of the Catholic abuse scandal comes another of historic proportions—one that has the potential to be much greater and far-reaching. According to a draft report commissioned by the U.S. Department of Education, in compliance with the 2002 "No Child Left Behind" act signed into law by President Bush, between 6 percent and 10 percent of public school children across the country have been sexually abused or harassed by school employees and teachers.
Charol Shakeshaft, the Hofstra University scholar who prepared the report, said the number of abuse cases—which range from unwanted sexual comments to rape—could be much higher.
"So we think the Catholic Church has a problem?" she told industry newspaper Education Week in a March 10 interview.
To support her contention, Shakeshaft compared the priest abuse data with data collected in a national survey for the American Association of University Women Educational Foundation in 2000. Extrapolating data from the latter, she estimated roughly 290,000 students experienced some sort of physical sexual abuse by a school employee from a single decade—1991-2000. That compares with about five decades of cases of abusive priests.
Such figures led her to contend "the physical sexual abuse of students in schools is likely more than 100 times the abuse by priests."
Early Comparisons
The comparison of church-school sexual abuse cases began early—years before Shakeshaft's report was completed.
In June 2002, The Associated Press reported clergy abuse cases overshadowed teacher-student sex abuse cases, though the report stated the school cases were not "uncommon."
"Some experts point to what they see as a permissive attitude toward such relationships and a double standard because cases involving female teachers and male students are treated less severely," AP reported.
"The dynamics of the teacher-student cases are often different than the classic sexual abuse cases because they seem to involve consenting relationships between teachers and students," Finkelhor, director of the Center for Crimes Against Children Research Center at the University of New Hampshire, told the wire service. ". . . Clear boundaries have to be enforced."
Nan Stein, director of a project on sexual harassment in schools at the Center for Research on Women at Wellesley College, cited far fewer cases annually than Shakeshaft; she said she believes "several hundred" cases of student-teacher sexual abuse cases occur each year.
And six years earlier Education Week searched newspaper archives and databases, finding 244 cases in a six-month period. The allegations in that short 1998 study ranged from unwanted touching to sexual relationships and serial rape.
Currently, there is no single agency that tracks such incidents. And only a few national surveys, as of 2002, had been conducted on the subject of teacher-student sex—and most of them were sexual harassment studies.
"None of these studies—either singly or as a group—answer all of the reasonable questions that parents, students, educators, and the public ask about educator sexual misconduct," says Shakeshaft, in her draft report. "And certainly do not provide information at a level of reliability and validity appropriate to the gravity of these offenses."
The Death of Outrage?
What is also different about the school cases is the level of secondary media coverage it has—or, in this case, hasn't—received.
Yet, media coverage of the Catholic priest abuse scandal was nearly wall-to-wall; every major television news program, every major newspaper and wire service, and most mass market magazines covered the scandal relentlessly.
But, reports the National Catholic Register, a leading faith publication, "a search on the media database LexisNexis for "Charol Shakeshaft" turned up no articles eight days after" the Education Week report.
An online search by NewsMax.com found similar disinterest. Google.com's news database, for example, returned just four entries for "Charol Shakeshaft;" two were Catholic publications.
The Indianapolis Star and Christian Science Monitor only briefly mentioned Shakeshaft's data; the later publication couched her remarks about schools in an article primarily rehashing the Catholic church abuse scandal.
Yahoo.com's news search engine returned only three; two were similar stories from the Indianapolis Star.
'Serious' Issue?
Catholic leaders especially are wondering why more coverage of the issue, as well as more action by government education officials, hasn't been forthcoming, in the weeks since the Education Week story.
"If the country is serious about [sexual abuse of children] as a national issue, we have to direct our resources to where the problem is worse," Bill Donohue, president of the Catholic League for Religious and Civil Rights, an New York-based Catholic advocacy group, told the Register. "But instead what we get is a selective indignation that suggests there is an agenda here."
Indeed, even some judges express a more permissive attitude regarding teacher-pupil sex.
Case in point: In Hackensack, N.J., in the spring of 2002, a state judge sentenced 43-year-old teacher Pamela Diehl-Moore to probation for having sex with a seventh-grade student who was only 13 at the time.
Though prosecutors had argued for jail for Diehl-Moore, the judge in the case, Bruce A. Gaeta, disagreed. He put the onus on the student, saying the encounters with his teacher may only have been a way for him to "satisfy his sexual needs."
According to court transcripts, as reported by AP, Gaeta said, "I don't see anything here that shows this young man has been psychologically damaged by her actions. And don't forget, this was mutual consent."
He was referred to a judicial disciplinary committee.
That is one identifiable double-standard: relationships between male students and female teachers. For one, say experts, most school sexual abuse occurs between male teachers and female students. For another, male students tend to report sex with female teachers far less; they are treated less severely because boys see little wrong with the acts.
"I think our society sort of says to the boy: 'Congratulations, that's great. Everybody fantasizes about having a sexual relationship with an older woman,'" Bob Shoop, an education professor at Kansas State University and an expert witness in 30 court cases involving sexual abuse in schools, told AP.
Case Studies
Some of the most recent cases of school sexual abuse include the following:
In 2002, a California high school teacher ran off to Las Vegas with one of her 15-year-old students;
The same year, a Louisiana teacher was accused of having an affair with a 14-year-old student;
In the Bronx, one teacher was charged with the statutory rape of a 16-year-old former student;
In March, a 20-year-old Anderson, Ind. choir aide was charged with allegedly raping a 16-year-old female student—the two had a consensual relationship for three months before the girl asked to break it off;
A week earlier, an Indianapolis Public Schools substitute was caught having sex with a 15-year-old student in a vacant classroom;
A Washington state teacher was convicted of 10 counts of sexually exploiting minors by persuading them to pose nude for him—he then uploaded some of the images to a Web site;
Also in Washington, state officials say 159 coaches of girls sports have been fired or reprimanded over the last decade for sexual misconduct;
An investigation found more than 60 instances in the last four years of Texas high school and middle school coaches losing jobs as a result of allegations of sexual misconduct.
What Next?
Some states have specific laws banning sex between teachers and students. Many others, however, rely on statutory rape laws, but they sometimes do little to protect student-teacher sex that is consensual or between an adult and minor child close to the age of consent.
For her part, Shakeshaft believes more study of the issue is needed, but that officials and educators should take the available data in her report to heart now.
"Some individual districts might have changed some policies or had an in-service workshop, but really there hasn't been any systematic response to this issue," she said.

YUCK! GROSS! :?

[Unregistered248]

now you can add East Islip to the list

[Unregistered1345677]

He wasn't arrested she was of age .....she had affair with him for over a year and now she claims he convinced her to do it ??

[Unregistered8ujuju]

He wasn't arrested she was of age .....she had affair with him for over a year and now she claims he convinced her to do it ??

Read the case, she knew and HER PARENTS knew while it was allegedly going on. They saw a big white cash cow and now I have to pay for this. Not with my tax dollars

[Unregistered454555]

Read the case, she knew and HER PARENTS knew while it was allegedly going on. They saw a big white cash cow and now I have to pay for this. Not with my tax dollars

This is BS ...im sorry if we have to pay for this...comon ...use your common sense ..she wasn't convinced ..he also went for it..and now we have to pay for it ????? I agree this is a payout a total opportunist move. this is totally out of hand.

[Unregisteredchica]

This is BS ...im sorry if we have to pay for this...comon ...use your common sense ..she wasn't convinced ..he also went for it..and now we have to pay for it ????? I agree this is a payout a total opportunist move. this is totally out of hand.

and your point????

[UnregisteredChaChing]

If as a taxpayer you would prefer your dollars go to something other than the lawsuit, then you should demand the district act responsibly; think about the kids, their education, and their safety for a change; and get rid of the abusers. Personally, I hope she wins. It will be the first time my tax dollars will be put to good use in this district.

[mayflower123]

If as a taxpayer you would prefer your dollars go to something other than the lawsuit, then you should demand the district act responsibly; think about the kids, their education, and their safety for a change; and get rid of the abusers. Personally, I hope she wins. It will be the first time my tax dollars will be put to good use in this district.

Using your logic, I would love to have a young daughter to "pimp" out and then I wouldn't have to work again. Happy Turkey Day

[Unregisteredsue sue]

Using your logic, I would love to have a young daughter to "pimp" out and then I wouldn't have to work again. Happy Turkey Day

its the uncle and the retards he hangs out with also, sue sue sue....

[UnregisteredPathetic]

How interesting to note that the only posters on Thanksgiving Day were the Little Losers Club of East Islip. How pathetic!

[Unregistered12121212]

Using your logic, I would love to have a young daughter to "pimp" out and then I wouldn't have to work again. Happy Turkey Day

Thats horriable if this is true ...her family is just looking to make $$ from there daughter ? thats disgusting ...if both parties were willing which it seems that they were ...why bother ? it looks like your looking for $$$.

[Unregistered--true]

Thats horriable if this is true ...her family is just looking to make $$ from there daughter ? thats disgusting ...if both parties were willing which it seems that they were ...why bother ? it looks like your looking for $$$.

sorry but its sad and its true

[UnregisteredTooCommon]

Is it me or is sex between teachers and students becoming much more common? It seems as if every other week another story comes out about a teacher-student sexual relationship.

Disturbing stories of teacher-student sex are becoming more and more frequent in the Metro sections of our local papers. For example, D.C. is actually proposing legislation that would criminalize a teacher having sex with a student no matter how old the student is. This was after a teacher was accused of impregnating a 16-year-old special needs student. The age of consent in D.C. is 16 so, without this law, there actually would be no criminal consequences to a teacher having sex with a 16-year-old student. The same can be said for New York State, where the age of consent is 17 years old. Though morally disgusting, a teacher having sex with their 17-year-old student in New York State can’t be criminally prosecuted unless the laws are changed.

It seems these forbidden relationships are happening more often. Today, teachers can have unfettered access to vulnerable students through cell phones and e-mail. Gone are the gatekeepers of Mothers and Fathers who answered the home phone and screened every caller. Is it any wonder that when students can watch their teacher posing in a thong on Facebook, the lines of appropriate behavior may become blurry?

But teenagers are stupid. We expect teenagers to do stupid things, because they don't know better. But what is the teacher's excuse? Do they blame it on "fast ass" girls? Smooth talking, hard-bodied teenage lotharios? What has happened in our society where it suddenly became acceptable to sleep with the very young people you are responsible for teaching?

Are teachers taking advantage of vulnerable children? Is it just the inevitable consequence of a new world without boundaries? Pedophiles disguised as teachers?

So many questions, very few answers. However, this is becoming an increasing problem that threatens the very nature and integrity of our educational system and is destroying untold numbers of young people. We must be vigilant in protecting our children. Predators are no longer the creepy guys in the raincoats across from the school. If your child is spending a lot of extra time with their teacher after class or if those evening tutoring sessions are going a little too late, you may want to investigate and make sure that algebra is the only thing she's learning.

[Unregistered1968]

i totally agree with too common's comments....where is the world coming too ? it is unacceptable how people are calling this girl names ..the latest issue that is going on in east islip...im sorry she was wrong ...so was he...he should have know better...but yet people call her a whore ????? who really was the whore?

[Unretarted]

i totally agree with too common's comments....where is the world coming too ? it is unacceptable how people are calling this girl names ..the latest issue that is going on in east islip...im sorry she was wrong ...so was he...he should have know better...but yet people call her a whore ????? who really was the whore?

not "WAS" but "IS" the whore.(she)

[UnregisteredLLC of EI]

Is it me or is sex between teachers and students becoming much more common? It seems as if every other week another story comes out about a teacher-student sexual relationship.

Disturbing stories of teacher-student sex are becoming more and more frequent in the Metro sections of our local papers. For example, D.C. is actually proposing legislation that would criminalize a teacher having sex with a student no matter how old the student is. This was after a teacher was accused of impregnating a 16-year-old special needs student. The age of consent in D.C. is 16 so, without this law, there actually would be no criminal consequences to a teacher having sex with a 16-year-old student. The same can be said for New York State, where the age of consent is 17 years old. Though morally disgusting, a teacher having sex with their 17-year-old student in New York State can’t be criminally prosecuted unless the laws are changed.

It seems these forbidden relationships are happening more often. Today, teachers can have unfettered access to vulnerable students through cell phones and e-mail. Gone are the gatekeepers of Mothers and Fathers who answered the home phone and screened every caller. Is it any wonder that when students can watch their teacher posing in a thong on Facebook, the lines of appropriate behavior may become blurry?

But teenagers are stupid. We expect teenagers to do stupid things, because they don't know better. But what is the teacher's excuse? Do they blame it on "fast ass" girls? Smooth talking, hard-bodied teenage lotharios? What has happened in our society where it suddenly became acceptable to sleep with the very young people you are responsible for teaching?

Are teachers taking advantage of vulnerable children? Is it just the inevitable consequence of a new world without boundaries? Pedophiles disguised as teachers?

So many questions, very few answers. However, this is becoming an increasing problem that threatens the very nature and integrity of our educational system and is destroying untold numbers of young people. We must be vigilant in protecting our children. Predators are no longer the creepy guys in the raincoats across from the school. If your child is spending a lot of extra time with their teacher after class or if those evening tutoring sessions are going a little too late, you may want to investigate and make sure that algebra is the only thing she's learning.

Only in East Islip would there be people, and I use the term loosely, who would defend an adult who took advantage of a young student.

[Unretarted]

Only in East Islip would there be people, and I use the term loosely, who would defend an adult who took advantage of a young student.

yea right! and there is a Santa and an Easter Bunny,Tooth Fairy and Family and consumer science is a real class.

[Unregistered1968]

not "WAS" but "IS" the whore.(she)
oh so you defend the teachers behavior ?Who cares ...if you think or if she was sleeping with other people......the teacher was the one who should of know better ...don't defend bad behavior because the behavior of the alleged victim was questionable...i don't care that her family is a loser...i don't care if she is a loser....the one who got himself in the situation to begin with who was like 30 years old should of know better....don't get me wrong she was stupid to do this but still she wasnt the one in authority

[Unregistered245]

oh so you defend the teachers behavior ?Who cares ...if you think or if she was sleeping with other people......the teacher was the one who should of know better ...don't defend bad behavior because the behavior of the alleged victim was questionable...i don't care that her family is a loser...i don't care if she is a loser....the one who got himself in the situation to begin with who was like 30 years old should of know better....don't get me wrong she was stupid to do this but still she wasnt the one in authority

just like Monica Lewinsky a slut is a slut and a stiff woody has no conscience .I didnt inhale!! promise

[Unregistered1987]

Just another example of bad behavior ...poor judgement ....with someone with authority..sounds like someone's brain is the size of pea..if you think someone is slut because they went along with what someone in authority wanted them to do...

[Unregistered1966]

Just another example of bad behavior ...poor judgement ....with someone with authority..sounds like someone's brain is the size of pea..if you think someone is slut because they went along with what someone in authority wanted them to do...

what about every other guy ? they were not all authority figures a pig is a pig face it

[pef121]

Just another example of bad behavior ...poor judgement ....with someone with authority..sounds like someone's brain is the size of pea..if you think someone is slut because they went along with what someone in authority wanted them to do...

Ask any kid who was in the high school when she was there "SLUT" is a mild term. SHe slept with anything that would take or have her

[Unregistered983]

did u record it

[Unregistered1969]

what about every other guy ? they were not all authority figures a pig is a pig face it

Nothing to face...cause the other guys aren't the one's in trouble...their not getting sued ...the teacher is ...so really it is irrelevant what she did with other people...its the teacher that got caught...hes the one who was the boss and shouldn't have been playing around....if this is true.

[Unregistered567]

it was a survey NOT a study you mental midgets. and it WASN'T done by Hofstra!! here it is:

Comparing the incidence of sexual misconduct in schools with the Catholic Church scandal, Shakeshaft notes that a recent study by the U.S. Conference of Catholic Bishops concluded 10,667 young people were sexually mistreated by priests between 1950 and 2002.

In contrast, she extrapolates from a national survey conducted for the American Association of University Women Educational Foundation in 2000 that roughly 290,000 students experienced some sort of physical sexual abuse by a public school employee between 1991 and 2000.

The figures suggest "the physical sexual abuse of students in schools is likely more than 100 times the abuse by priests," said Shakeshaft, according to Education Week.

[UnregisteredWrongAgain]

Worse than Catholic clergy sex scandal?

In today's sexually permissive school environment, just how prevalent is the teacher-student sex problem?

Get ready for a shock. According to a major 2004 study commissioned by the U.S. Department of Education– the most in-depth investigation to date – nearly 10 percent of U.S. public school students have been targeted with unwanted sexual attention by school employees.

Titled "Educator Sexual Misconduct: A Synthesis of Existing Literature," the report says the mistreatment of students ranges from sexual comments to rape. In fact, says the study's author Charol Shakeshaft, professor of educational administration at Hofstra University in Hempstead, N.Y., the scope of the school-sex problem appears to far exceed the clergy-abuse scandal that has recently rocked the Roman Catholic Church.
Indeed, more than 4.5 million students are subject to sexual misconduct by an employee of a school sometime between kindergarten and 12th grade, says the report.

"Educator sexual misconduct is woefully understudied," Shakeshaft says in her report. "We have scant data on incidence and even less on descriptions of predators and targets. There are many questions that call for answers."

Grooming

Like all sexual predators, says Shakeshaft, "sexual abusers in schools use various strategies to trap students. They lie to them, isolate them, make them feel complicit, and manipulate them into sexual contact. Often teachers target vulnerable or marginal students who are grateful for the attention."
The report draws a clear distinction between true pedophiles – that is, adults who target pre-pubescent children – and those who criminally seduce pubescent but underage youngsters. "The abusers of children younger than seventh grade have different patterns than those who abuse older children," she says, making a disturbing but familiar point about pedophiles' modus operandi:

The educators who target elementary school children are often professionally accomplished and even celebrated. Particularly compared to their non-abusing counterparts, they hold a disproportionate number of awards. It is common to find that educators who have been sexually abusing children are also the same educators who display on their walls a community “Excellence in Teaching” award or a “Teacher of the Year” certificate. This popularity confounds district officials and community members and prompts them to ignore allegations on the belief that “outstanding teachers” cannot be abusers. Many educators who abuse work at being recognized as good professionals in order to be able to sexually abuse children. For them, being a good educator is the path to children, especially those who abuse elementary and younger middle school students.
In contrast, she notes:

At the late middle and high school level, educator abusers may or may not be outstanding practitioners. At this level, the initial acts are somewhat less premeditated and planned and more often opportunistic, a result of bad judgment or a misplaced sense of privilege.

Shakeshaft gives a chilling description of the various techniques of "grooming" – a practice common to virtually all child molesters. Grooming, she explains, is a process whereby …

an abuser selects a student, gives the student attention and rewards, provides the student with support and understanding, all the while slowly increasing the amount of touch or other sexual behavior. The purpose of grooming is to test the child’s ability to maintain secrecy, to desensitize the child through progressive sexual behaviors, to provide the child with experiences that are valuable and that the child won’t want to lose, to learn information that will discredit the child, and to gain approval from parents.
Grooming allows the abuser to test the student’s silence at each step. It also serves to implicate the student, resulting in children believing that they are responsible for their own abuse because “I never said stop.”

Grooming often takes place in the context of providing a child with extras like additional help learning a musical instrument, advisement on a science project, or opportunities for camping and outdoor activity. These opportunities not only create a special relationship with students, they are also ones for which parents are usually appreciative.

Most sexual molesters work very hard to keep their victims from telling others. This is not as hard for the perpetrator to accomplish as it may seem. For one thing, children who are sexually abused by teachers often don't recognize what is happening as abuse. "In many cases," says the report, "they are told that what is happening is love. Many abusers of children at all ages couch what they are doing to the children as love, both romantic and parental."

[UnregisteredWrongAgain]

Other techniques for keeping children quiet, says Shakeshaft, are "intimidation and threats (if you tell, I’ll fail you)," "exploiting the power structure (if you tell, no one will believe you)" and "manipulating the child’s affections (if you tell, I’ll get in trouble; if you tell, I won’t be able to be your friend anymore)." Since kids typically get something out of the relationship – everything from attention and gifts to physical pleasure and a feeling of belonging – they can easily be made to feel responsible, something offenders use to their advantage.

But what happens when, despite the powerful manipulation of their minds and feelings by the sexual predator, children actually do go to authorities?
In many cases, says the federally funded report, they are just not believed: "Because of the power differential, the reputation difference between the educator and the child, or the mindset that children are untruthful, many reports by children are ignored or given minimal attention."

Several studies estimate that only about 6 percent of all children report sexual abuse by an adult to someone who can do something about it. Indeed, fear of not being believed is the No. 1 reason kids don't report their sexual victimization at the hands of adults.

Shakeshaft cites the case of one teacher, Kenneth DeLuca, who was convicted of sexually abusing 13 students between the ages of 10 and 18 over a period of 21 years. Although nearly all of the students reported the abuse at the time it was occurring, school officials ignored the accusations. "Overwhelmingly, the girls experienced a disastrous response when they told about DeLuca’s behavior," said the report. "Many were disbelieved, some were told to leave schools, parents were allegedly threatened with lawsuits."
Even more shocking, Shakeshaft's report documents that offending teachers have frequently gotten off virtually scot-free even when their sexual misdeed are exposed to school administrators.

· In one study of 225 cases of teacher sex abuse in New York, although all the accused had admitted to sexually abusing a student, not one was reported to the police and only 1 percent lost their license to teach.

· A 2003 study reports that 159 Washington state coaches were "reprimanded, warned, or let go in the past decade because of sexual misconduct" – and yet, "at least 98 of them continued coaching or teaching afterward.”

· A 2004 study reports that many school districts make confidential agreements with abusers, essentially trading a positive recommendation for a resignation. In one case, a Seattle educator named Luke Markishtum "had two decades of complaints of sex with students and providing alcohol and marijuana to students prior to his arrest for smuggling six tons of marijuana into the state. The district paid Markishtum the remainder of his salary that year, agreed to keep the record secret, and gave him an additional $69,000."

[Unregistered567]

In contrast, she extrapolates from a national survey conducted for the American Association of University Women Educational Foundation in 2000 that roughly 290,000 students experienced some sort of physical sexual abuse by a public school employee between 1991 and 2000.

[Spies R Us]

In contrast, she extrapolates from a national survey conducted for the American Association of University Women Educational Foundation in 2000 that roughly 290,000 students experienced some sort of physical sexual abuse by a public school employee between 1991 and 2000.


"Employees" meaning custodians, secretaries and aides. Not just teachers.

[UnregisteredBottomFeeder]

"Employees" meaning custodians, secretaries and aides. Not just teachers.

I guess that makes the abuse just fine and dandy in your eyes.

Right Losers R You?

[registered7O7]

yea right! and there is a Santa and an Easter Bunny,Tooth Fairy and Family and consumer science is a real class.

lies lies and more lies a real class i say not ! a retard can teach that class ........OH wait well you know

[Unregistered567]

there you go spouting the "retard" thing. have you ever seen the movie Rain Man?? he couldn't work a microwave. but you want them thrust into society without the safety net the state affords them in school.

[Raymond]

lies lies and more lies a real class i say not ! a retard can teach that class ........OH wait well you know

Yeah everyone thinks they can teach until they have to do it.

[Unregisteredthe situation]

"Employees" meaning custodians, secretaries and aides. Not just teachers.


whatever the situation priests, people in high position of authority should not be having sex ! and teachers!!! is so unacceptable its unbelievable that this is even an issue in the school system....I am noticing a lot more women seem to also be among these predators ...which I do not understand...the situation in EI was wrong period..rumor has it he was doing this for a number of years ??? well those who knew and let the behavior continue need to put out on the curb....I feel bad for everyone..the teacher made a bad call and choice he lost his job and cert so he needs to move on..hopefully he learned his lesson..the lawsuit well that's a whole other topic ...how can u say he convinced you to touch him for a year ?? yeah he was wrong ...but comon it just seems like someone just wants to get some hands on some cash....which is a shame.

[Unregistered90889]

whatever the situation priests, people in high position of authority should not be having sex ! and teachers!!! is so unacceptable its unbelievable that this is even an issue in the school system....I am noticing a lot more women seem to also be among these predators ...which I do not understand...the situation in EI was wrong period..rumor has it he was doing this for a number of years ??? well those who knew and let the behavior continue need to put out on the curb....I feel bad for everyone..the teacher made a bad call and choice he lost his job and cert so he needs to move on..hopefully he learned his lesson..the lawsuit well that's a whole other topic ...how can u say he convinced you to touch him for a year ?? yeah he was wrong ...but comon it just seems like someone just wants to get some hands on some cash....which is a shame.

she just might get that cash

[Unregistered567]

it's called go away money. after all sorts of delays, pre-trial haggling then discovery of facts and witnesses this could take yeras. remember once a jury hears the fact that mom knew but didn't speak out until she found out he was her coach they might throw it out. or settle for the "go away money".

[Unregisteredpathetic]

it's called go away money. after all sorts of delays, pre-trial haggling then discovery of facts and witnesses this could take yeras. remember once a jury hears the fact that mom knew but didn't speak out until she found out he was her coach they might throw it out. or settle for the "go away money".

This was ok with the mother ? this guy obviously did have something to do with the girl since he gave up his postition...but why in the world would this be ok by the parent ? did she not know that he was also married ? was that ok with her too ? what kind of parent is that ?

[Unregisteredhuh900]

This was ok with the mother ? this guy obviously did have something to do with the girl since he gave up his postition...but why in the world would this be ok by the parent ? did she not know that he was also married ? was that ok with her too ? what kind of parent is that ?

if her mother was ok with this then why would u do this to your own daughter make her sue so they can get money...thats terriable ...thats like saying the wife knew and it was ok with her...i find it hard to believe a parent would be ok with this

[Unregistered0neway]

if her mother was ok with this then why would u do this to your own daughter make her sue so they can get money...thats terriable ...thats like saying the wife knew and it was ok with her...i find it hard to believe a parent would be ok with this

who knows..if any of this is really true

[Unregisteredit is]

who knows..if any of this is really true

its true

[Unregisteredreally 567]

it's called go away money. after all sorts of delays, pre-trial haggling then discovery of facts and witnesses this could take yeras. remember once a jury hears the fact that mom knew but didn't speak out until she found out he was her coach they might throw it out. or settle for the "go away money".

567 did she reallyn know this that she was seeing an older man ? Is this really true ..why would a married coach throw his career away for a quick thrill ? did he really do this ?...is this all made up by the mother and the daughter just to get money ? People can sure talk but then they have to hve proof ...witness what did people see a teacher talking to a student ?

[Unregistered567]

my ass is itchy

[seeaproctologist]

my ass is itchy

That might be your brain.

[Unregistered246]

That might be your brain.

I am not an East Islip teacher my brain is not in my ass .I think i have bugs from having filthy sex with your spouse

[Unregisteredomg]

I am not an East Islip teacher my brain is not in my ass .I think i have bugs from having filthy sex with your spouse

omg that was cold...someone is making an assumption here ?

[UnregisteredInteresting]

Just like the NYC School District has:

http://www.nycsci.org

(Check out the reports and press releases.)

[Unregistered567]

where else should there be one??


"Wall Street Refused To Stop Shady Practices In Order To Keep Profits Flowing"

love this para: "As investigators delve deeper into the mortgage mess, they are finding in too many cases that Wall Street firms did nothing when they learned about problem loans or improprieties in lending. Rather than stopping practices of profligate originators like New Century, Fremont and Ameriquest, Wall Street financiers, which held the purse strings for these companies, apparently decided to simply look the other way."

[Unregistered Done]

where else should there be one??


"Wall Street Refused To Stop Shady Practices In Order To Keep Profits Flowing"

love this para: "As investigators delve deeper into the mortgage mess, they are finding in too many cases that Wall Street firms did nothing when they learned about problem loans or improprieties in lending. Rather than stopping practices of profligate originators like New Century, Fremont and Ameriquest, Wall Street financiers, which held the purse strings for these companies, apparently decided to simply look the other way."

You are just as bad

http://www.newsday.com/long-island/education/nine-of-10-ny-s-highest-paid-schools-chiefs-are-from-li-1.2453896?p=

[Bill ShAKESPEARE]

I am not an East Islip teacher my brain is not in my ass .I think i have bugs from having filthy sex with your spouse

Apparently you do have your brain in your ass since your sentence structure made little sense: Do you mean to say that you have bugs because you had sex with a person who gave you the bugs or that the sex you had was dirty.
Please clarify since many of us would like to know.


Additionally, you might need to have an operation to separate your occipital lobe from your anal region; a condition exacerbated by you kissing your own ass too frequently.

A junior high school education is just not going to make it any longer...

[Give246abreak]

He's just another typical East Islip parent.You know the type....the ones who put those red and white banner stickers given to kids who get B-'s in a fan design on the back of their SUV.Yes...the same morons who jam up the parkway entrances so their little punks and snobettes can sleighride while Dad tries to get the Yukon out of the 3' snowbank. "Gee.....it worked on the commercial I saw while watching DWTS."

[UnregisteredLLLLL]

He's just another typical East Islip parent.You know the type....the ones who put those red and white banner stickers given to kids who get B-'s in a fan design on the back of their SUV.Yes...the same morons who jam up the parkway entrances so their little punks and snobettes can sleighride while Dad tries to get the Yukon out of the 3' snowbank. "Gee.....it worked on the commercial I saw while watching DWTS."

Yeah, we know the type. They're the same ones whose little darlings are too stupid to pass the easy classes so they spend all their time bitching about it. Losers with a capital "L."

[Unregistered2011ttg]

Yeah, we know the type. They're the same ones whose little darlings are too stupid to pass the easy classes so they spend all their time bitching about it. Losers with a capital "L."

yea those pass or fail classes are a joke we need to phase them out this year and take some of the tax burden off the community. mandates can and will be changed. again in your own words...... wait for it ........coming soon in a large investigation near you. there is a lot more happening than you think.

[Unregistered567]

get rid of everything!!! just have the 4 major subjects and send your little darlings home at noon. the other crap is just a baysitting service. Chess club??? sports are a joke!! most kids in middle school sports can't walk and chew gum anyway. send everybody home at noon, lock your liquor cabinet AND your doors.

[the real 7O7]

get rid of everything!!! just have the 4 major subjects and send your little darlings home at noon. the other crap is just a baysitting service. Chess club??? sports are a joke!! most kids in middle school sports can't walk and chew gum anyway. send everybody home at noon, lock your liquor cabinet AND your doors.

NO just one class that wastes a students time for half a year and costs the tax payers hundreds of thousands a year NO ONE WANTS IT NO ONE NEEDS IT LETS CHANGE MANDATES AND FINALLY PUT IT TO SLEEP.

[Unregistered567]

man that teacher must have done something REALLY bad to you or one of your kids. REALLY BAD.

[UnregisteredFAIL]

man that teacher must have done something REALLY bad to you or one of your kids. REALLY BAD.

Yeah, that teacher failed the kid's stupid ass.

[Unregistered228314]

Yeah, that teacher failed the kid's stupid ass.

sorry my daughter passed that no brain needed B.S subject. Ever think the instructor failed ? it does happen

[Unregistered567]

learning how to buy and prepare cheap and healthy meals is an important facet in todays society. 1/3 of all kids today are obese. not just overweight. OBESE. this class should be given AP status!!! but then again a double cheeseburger costs .99 so go for it!!

[7O7]

learning how to buy and prepare cheap and healthy meals is an important facet in todays society. 1/3 of all kids today are obese. not just overweight. OBESE. this class should be given AP status!!! but then again a double cheeseburger costs .99 so go for it!!

if this joke was working none of the kids would be obese ! the teachers families are out of shape and please dont get me started on their house keeping skills

[Unregistered567]

as I stated already. a double cheeseburger is .99. cheaper and easier than preparing a meal for the little rotund darlings.

[Unregistered7277]

University studies? You've got to be kidding. The level of quality teaching has hit an all time low. Especially in the colleges. Nassau being one of the worst. Half of their teachers are dating their students. You even have your assistant dean of life learning screwing a married correction officer. How skanky. This is what you call role models. This is what it supposed to be looked up to. What a disgrace. This school has become a joke.

[Unregistered567]

and which class did you fail??

[Unregistered huh678]

University studies? You've got to be kidding. The level of quality teaching has hit an all time low. Especially in the colleges. Nassau being one of the worst. Half of their teachers are dating their students. You even have your assistant dean of life learning screwing a married correction officer. How skanky. This is what you call role models. This is what it supposed to be looked up to. What a disgrace. This school has become a joke.

**uh that's pretty bad if half the teachers are dating the students ?

[Unregistered567]

college prof's have been banging students for decades. where have you been? it goes on on every campus across the country!!

[Unregisteredprof]

Dean Hawley banging a married guy is old news. Everyone knows about her. Thats her family's problem. Although, her husband and his wife must be really stupid. However, she's using county time to hook-up with the guy. Thats the counties problem and thats what should be addressed. The county also needs to start setting guidelines regarding the behaviors of professors cohorting with their students. If they are no longer their student. Thats one thing. But while they are sitting in class being graded for their work, any type of relationship is unacceptable and unprofessional.