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Suff Co Civilian
02-09-2005, 06:30 AM
Exactly what is the required # of deputy sheriffs and CO's in Suffolk County? Ive heard that the current nuber is about 300 deputies and 750 CO's, is this true? That gives us one of the largest law enforcement agencies in the US with about 1,050 sworn officers.

02-09-2005, 06:48 AM
C.O. s arent Police officers, their scope of power is limited to work hours and assignments.

GET IT RIGHT DUDE
02-09-2005, 08:08 AM
THAT WOULD NOT MAKE THEM ONE OF THE BIGGEST!

GO TO POLICEPAY.NET FOR BIGGEST 200 DEPARTMENTS.

2n guest
02-09-2005, 10:39 AM
2nd. Guest, shut your sh*t stirring trap. 1st. off, Correction Officers Peace Officer status is 24/7. At work or off, just like your Police Officer status. Get your facts straight jacka*s and stop stirring sh*t. Spend your time in a more productive way like playing make believe cop!

Suff Co Civilian
02-09-2005, 03:05 PM
THAT WOULD NOT MAKE THEM ONE OF THE BIGGEST!

GO TO POLICEPAY.NET FOR BIGGEST 200 DEPARTMENTS.
According to the FBI UCR data, the SCSD is the largest sheriff's dept. in the Northeast, except possibly Erie County, NY and Suffolk County, MA. And the Policepay.net is POLICE DEPTs only, not deps, troopers, etc.

02-09-2005, 04:36 PM
2nd. Guest, shut your sh*t stirring trap. 1st. off, Correction Officers Peace Officer status is 24/7. At work or off, just like your Police Officer status. Get your facts straight jacka*s and stop stirring sh*t. Spend your time in a more productive way like playing make believe cop!
relax geez talk about an inferiority complex, wrong about the scope of your duties, but the point is you arent out there running around like deps and cops your job is inside and different than the deps.
P.S. you may thank me for the 78 bodies I sent you to keep your jobs last year, and the 93 the year prior, yeah 2004 was an off year.lol

AHum
02-09-2005, 05:02 PM
Actually if you work where I think you do than you should thank the C/Os for your job. If it was not for C/Os than most likely you would not have even been hired since a large majority of your work is Corrections related. Yes our job is inside and we are damn proud of it. No staring out the windows here as you would like to think. Inferior, yeah ok. That statement pretty much shows where you come from. Now go back to your taxi, I mean patrol car and listen to some more 911 calls. Maybe you can beat SCPD to the scene so they can trip over you.

C/O
02-09-2005, 06:07 PM
It is a shame that a Dep or C/O must work over 1,000 hours of overtime just to make what SCPD makes in their base salary.

Those guys you see in the paper are never home to see their family, so keep that in mind.

Walther
02-09-2005, 06:19 PM
What I am about to say is strictly off the record. On that understanding, I shall give you candidly and without circumlocution the best estimate of our present plight that I have been able to make. Before I launch into my main topic, I want to make a few matters crystal clear: 1) I, for one, contend that my bromides regarding jaded freeloaders, while far from complete, will fight the good fight, and 2) as a result of that, no one today believes that all any child needs is a big dose of television every day. Now that you know where I stand on those issues, I can safely say that SC Sheriff's Dept. Overtime should think about how its contrivances lead the worst types of goofy publishers of hate literature I've ever seen to prepare the ground for an ever-more vicious and brutal campaign of terror. If SC Sheriff's Dept. Overtime doesn't want to think that hard, perhaps it should just keep quiet. Unless SC Sheriff's Dept. Overtime provides unequivocal evidence to the contrary, I will continue to suspect that it is humorless and more than lame-brained to believe that we should be grateful for the precious freedom to be robbed and kicked in the face by such a noble creature as it. The sooner it comes to grips with that reality, the better for all of us. I claim that SC Sheriff's Dept. Overtime truly believes that violence and prejudice are funny. It is just such money-grubbing, mean-spirited megalomania, insecure egoism, and intellectual aberrancy that stirs SC Sheriff's Dept. Overtime to hijack the word "pseudoparenchymatous" and use it to impale us on the pike of vandalism.

Our long-corrupt legal system is parlously close to establishing a precedent that will enable SC Sheriff's Dept. Overtime to create widespread hysteria. But let's not lose sight of the larger, more important issue here: its unsavory ethics. SC Sheriff's Dept. Overtime's remonstrations are built on lies and they depend on make-believe for their continuation. I know that I'm emotional now, but it's a pity that two thousand years after Christ, the voices of randy so-called experts like SC Sheriff's Dept. Overtime can still be heard, worse still that they're listened to, and worst of all that anyone believes them. If it were up to SC Sheriff's Dept. Overtime, schoolchildren would be taught reading, 'riting, and racism. While some information provided by SC Sheriff's Dept. Overtime's helots may be factual, other material is unsubstantiated rumor or malignant orations. Let me quote to you from the words of my attorney: "SC Sheriff's Dept. Overtime uses a rather damnable definition of 'extraterritoriality'."

SC Sheriff's Dept. Overtime's expositors aver that "SC Sheriff's Dept. Overtime is the best thing to come along since the invention of sliced bread." First off, that's a lousy sentence. If they had written that SC Sheriff's Dept. Overtime's blind faith in cynicism leads it only to corruption, then that quote would have had more validity. As it stands, SC Sheriff's Dept. Overtime says that it's okay for it to indulge its every whim and lust without regard for anyone else or for society as a whole. You know, I don't think I have heard a less factually based statement in my entire life. SC Sheriff's Dept. Overtime faces moral disaster in its neighborhood, political disaster in its country, and an impending world catastrophe with a blank and smiling countenance. I'll probably devote a separate letter to that topic alone, but for now, I'll simply summarize by stating that SC Sheriff's Dept. Overtime's serfs have learned their scripts well, and the rhetoric comes gushing forth with little provocation. Ostensibly, SC Sheriff's Dept. Overtime does not intend to break down traditional values, but in fact, to say that divine ichor flows through its veins is eccentric nonsense and untrue to boot.

I am not in any way placing the blame on SC Sheriff's Dept. Overtime for baleful, neo-malicious nitwits who foster suspicion -- if not hatred -- of "outsiders". That notwithstanding, SC Sheriff's Dept. Overtime is still culpable for plotting to exploit other cultures for self-entertainment. The law is not just a moral stance. It is the consensus of society on our minimum standards of behavior. What I am getting at is this: SC Sheriff's Dept. Overtime's antisocial expedients are a shout to the world that, when you least expect it, SC Sheriff's Dept. Overtime will go to great lengths to conceal its true aims and mislead the public. And here, I insist, lies a clue to the intellectual vacuum so gapingly apparent in its solutions. Let's consider for a moment, though, that maybe SC Sheriff's Dept. Overtime's shills merely present their allegations as though they were true, a technique known as a "conclusory" or "Kierkegaardian" leap. Then doesn't it follow that SC Sheriff's Dept. Overtime's hatchet jobs set the intellectual and moral stage for a new wave of power-hungry policies that seek to exert more and more control over other individuals?

Don't let SC Sheriff's Dept. Overtime delude you into thinking that cold-blooded scrubs make the best scout leaders and schoolteachers. It's just trying to burn books. To what consequences this leads can be seen from a few simple considerations. First of all, SC Sheriff's Dept. Overtime and its flunkies are the most obdurate ruffians you can imagine -- and even then, only in your worst nightmares. So what's the connection between that and SC Sheriff's Dept. Overtime's subliminal psywar campaigns? The connection is that if it can overawe and befuddle a sufficient number of prominent individuals, then it will become virtually impossible for anyone to summon up the courage to direct your attention in some detail to the vast and irreparable calamity brought upon us by SC Sheriff's Dept. Overtime.

I almost forgot: I have begged SC Sheriff's Dept. Overtime's forces to step forth and begin the debate about SC Sheriff's Dept. Overtime's flimflams. To date, not a single soul has agreed to help in this fashion. Are they worried about how SC Sheriff's Dept. Overtime might retaliate? Here's the answer, albeit in a somewhat circuitous and roundabout style: SC Sheriff's Dept. Overtime used twisted and self-contradictory logic to arrive at its conclusion that the Queen of England heads up the international drug cartel. That's pretty transparent. What's not so transparent is the answer to the following question: Why do its pals want to ingratiate themselves with it? A clue might be that we can't stop it overnight. It takes time, patience and experience to do something about the continuing -- make that the escalating -- effort on its part to suborn mumpish soi-disant do-gooders to work both sides of the political fence. I once overheard SC Sheriff's Dept. Overtime say something quite astonishing. Are you strapped in? SC Sheriff's Dept. Overtime said that sniffish fiends are more deserving of honor than our nation's war heroes. Can you believe that? At least its statement made me realize that its dupes often reverse the normal process of interpretation. That is, they value the unsaid over the said, the obscure over the clear.

I can assure you that if we reveal the constant tension between centripetal and centrifugal forces of dialogized heteroglossia resulting from SC Sheriff's Dept. Overtime's perorations, then the sea of pharisaism, on which SC Sheriff's Dept. Overtime so heavily relies, will begin to dry up. In case you have any doubts, I can easily see SC Sheriff's Dept. Overtime performing the following censorious acts. First, it will waste natural resources. Then, it will overthrow the government and eliminate the money system. I do not profess to know how likely is the eventuality I have outlined, but it is a distinct possibility to be kept in mind.

SC Sheriff's Dept. Overtime's fulminations share a number of characteristics. They make our country spiritually blind. They acquire power and use it to indoctrinate the most slaphappy clowns you'll ever see. And they limit the terms of debate by declaring certain subjects beyond discussion. Put together, these characteristics imply that SC Sheriff's Dept. Overtime is not as cuckoo or smarmy as you might think. It's more so.

To those gin-swilling wackos who think that men are spare parts in the social repertoire -- mere optional extras -- know this: SC Sheriff's Dept. Overtime wallows in its basest behavior. Regular readers of my letters probably take that for granted, but if I am to enhance people's curiosity, critical acumen, and aesthetic sensitivity, I must explain to the population at large that SC Sheriff's Dept. Overtime's list of sins is long and each one deserves more space than I have here. Therefore, rather than describe each one individually, I'll summarize by stating that the more we give it, the more it wants. At the risk of sounding a tad redundant, let me add that its claim that it knows 100% of everything 100% of the time is not only an attack on the concept of objectivity, but an assault on the human mind. We must dole out acerbic criticism of SC Sheriff's Dept. Overtime and its phalanx of morbid bedfellows. If we don't, future generations will not know freedom. Instead, they will know fear; they will know sadness; they will know injustice, poverty, and grinding despair. Most of all, they will realize, albeit far too late, that SC Sheriff's Dept. Overtime periodically puts up a facade of reform. However, underneath the pretty surface, it's always business as usual. It would be wrong to imply that SC Sheriff's Dept. Overtime is involved in some kind of conspiracy to condition the public to accept violence as normal and desirable. It would be wrong because its politics are far beyond the conspiracy stage. Not only that, but it presents one face to the public, a face that tells people what they want to hear. Then, in private, SC Sheriff's Dept. Overtime devises new schemes to mold the mind of virtually every citizen -- young or old, rich or poor, simple or sophisticated.

One may very well question whether I cannot conceive of any circumstance under which SC Sheriff's Dept. Overtime's biases could be considered appropriate. Still, most people will eventually be convinced that most of us are now painfully aware of SC Sheriff's Dept. Overtime's incoherent insults. Am I being too harsh for writing that? Maybe I am, but that's really the only way you can push a point through to SC Sheriff's Dept. Overtime. There isn't a man, woman, or child alive today who thinks that SC Sheriff's Dept. Overtime's sound bites are all sweetness and light, so let's toss out that ridiculous argument of SC Sheriff's Dept. Overtime's from the get-go. SC Sheriff's Dept. Overtime's encomiasts are just as bad as SC Sheriff's Dept. Overtime is, if not worse. That is why, come what may, we must take up the all-encompassing challenge of freedom, justice, equality, and the pursuit of life with full dignity.

Union Made
02-09-2005, 06:20 PM
That guy Starke is the top guy every year. he is a Sgt and all they have to do to control his o/t is put another Sgt or a Lt in CIB w/ him. That is poor mgmt by Tisch. It is like they are scared of this guy. Us deps know that the Chief doesn't make a decision w/o checking w/ Starke first. He is the unofficial asst. chief. One guy consistently makes us all look bad.

aaah Union Made
02-09-2005, 06:39 PM
It's nice to hear someone who tells the truth. This guys been running a scam for years. As far as the rest on the list, I'm sure they did actually earn every dollar and I mean that sincerly. Deputy or C/O, they both have a tough job and should be paid more. Of course there are a few in both divisions that have azz kissed themselves into scam jobs but than we would be right back talkin about the Sgt again.

StraightTime
02-09-2005, 06:48 PM
I agree with the previous poster. These guys in the papers are the exception, not the rule. I'm a C/O and work ot once in awhile, sometimes being forced, mostly voluntarily. Basically you have the ot workers and the non workers. If more guys volunteered, you wouldn't have these few big earners because the hours would be spread out over more Officers/ Deps.

The two C/O's mentioned are very senior and work at an off jail assignment. How convenient of Newsday to leave out the details, but this is their practice every year. The average hack who works in the jails at Riverhead and Yaphank don't have the luxury of doing 16 hours in a comfy spot with inmates who are on sedation.

I'll tell you what; I'll give up my 1 double a week for a fair contract.

cityguylooking
02-11-2005, 08:48 AM
So what does the average dep make at top step, with overtime?

C/O C/O C/O
02-11-2005, 09:19 AM
I'm not a Deputy but from what I've seen you can easily make $80,000 to $90,000 with little effort. Of course if you are an overtime hound than the sky is the limit but you will put the hours in for your pay.

ot ot ot
02-13-2005, 01:44 PM
I am a Deputy at top step. I never work more then 400 hours of OT and for the last 4 years I have topped 100K. That works out to be about 1 double a week or working one RDO. Even better just work your meal and write a ticket on your way home. That alone will give you 8 hours a week. One OT shift a week is easy to get: make a collar late in the tour, write a ticket - testify on a RDO, work a shift taking prisoners to court, sit in a hospital on a prisoner, take a prisoner upstate and spend the night (they pay you to stay the night upstate). All easy OT. They are pro-arrest out here and don't mind paying for it. Beats sitting in Cental Booking.
Guys like Starke are not the norm. He must have the best set of lips in Suffolk. Before he was sucking on Tisch's root he sucked on Mahoney's. Tisch has allowed Starke to do whatever he likes, whenever he likes, however he likes. Someone should look into just how Starke gets his OT, they will be stunned. For one he takes over any good arrests.