Deputy burps, says "excuse me", Newsday notified

[UnregisteredBS]

Dep stops hov driver w/ dummy in car, media blitz ensues.

"Sharkey praised Howard's sharp eye. "To be driving 55 mph and be able to pick up through glass that there was something wrong about the passenger, that's good work," he said."

And to be told that there were 3 people in a car but only 2 are at the mva scene and the window is blown out and the dead 3rd passenger is disovered 20 feet away by a passing motorist 2 hours laterm thats NOT good work....

[Are they for real?]

The violation is taken seriously "because unchecked abuses of this type can lead to serious traffic congestion," the sheriff's office said in a release.

Thanks to the Sheriff's - it will be clear sailing on the LIE

[Unregistered44]

The violation is taken seriously "because unchecked abuses of this type can lead to serious traffic congestion," the sheriff's office said in a release.

Thanks to the Sheriff's - it will be clear sailing on the LIE

[ed2424]

The violation is taken seriously "because unchecked abuses of this type can lead to serious traffic congestion," the sheriff's office said in a release.

Thanks to the Sheriff's - it will be clear sailing on the LIE


These guys really drink the Levy Kool Aide!

[Unregisteredjhf]

These guys really drink the Levy Kool Aide!

here is some reality for you pba kool-aide drinkers.. aka jeff pole smokers. deps have to work 500 hrs ot to make what you crybabies make on base. Here is the reality ...... ready......here-we-go.... get out the calculators this equals
SAVING FOR THE TAXPAYER!!!! i am PROUD of the jobs my fellow deps have done with the hwy's thrown at us.

[787878]

here is some reality for you pba kool-aide drinkers.. aka jeff pole smokers. deps have to work 500 hrs ot to make what you crybabies make on base. Here is the reality ...... ready......here-we-go.... get out the calculators this equals
SAVING FOR THE TAXPAYER!!!! i am PROUD of the jobs my fellow deps have done with the hwy's thrown at us.

Whoa there Dawg. You forgot to tell us about what you did all those years before you started doing some honest work. Those 500 hours were spent Christmas shopping before you continued on to rake in enough additional OT to beat most SCPD cops.

But hey, you brought it up.

[ed2424]

here is some reality for you pba kool-aide drinkers.. aka jeff pole smokers. deps have to work 500 hrs ot to make what you crybabies make on base. Here is the reality ...... ready......here-we-go.... get out the calculators this equals
SAVING FOR THE TAXPAYER!!!! i am PROUD of the jobs my fellow deps have done with the hwy's thrown at us.


Dude....lay off the Kool Aide! You're just a pawn....there is no savings....and eventually you will get screwed over because all you do is WRITE WRITE WRITE. Learn to do real police work instead of just a ticket writer for the county.

[Unregisteredwaaa]

Dep stops hov driver w/ dummy in car, media blitz ensues.

"Sharkey praised Howard's sharp eye. "To be driving 55 mph and be able to pick up through glass that there was something wrong about the passenger, that's good work," he said."

And to be told that there were 3 people in a car but only 2 are at the mva scene and the window is blown out and the dead 3rd passenger is disovered 20 feet away by a passing motorist 2 hours laterm thats NOT good work....

But shooting an innocent person IS great work.

[Unregisteredytr]

Dude....lay off the Kool Aide! You're just a pawn....there is no savings....and eventually you will get screwed over because all you do is WRITE WRITE WRITE. Learn to do real police work instead of just a ticket writer for the county.

the poor average joe has to put up with this thick headed crap everyday. thats why people dont respect the district pd

[dumb math boy]

here is some reality for you pba kool-aide drinkers.. aka jeff pole smokers. deps have to work 500 hrs ot to make what you crybabies make on base. Here is the reality ...... ready......here-we-go.... get out the calculators this equals
SAVING FOR THE TAXPAYER!!!! i am PROUD of the jobs my fellow deps have done with the hwy's thrown at us.

That equation only works if the scpd hwy were fired. They werent.
It actually cost money to outfit the deps new hwy vehicles etc

[the people's troll???]

the poor average joe has to put up with this thick headed crap everyday. thats why people dont respect the district pd
ehh since when exactly were you elected official spokes troll for "the pople"e

[the shoppers?????]

Whoa there Dawg. You forgot to tell us about what you did all those years before you started doing some honest work. Those 500 hours were spent Christmas shopping before you continued on to rake in enough additional OT to beat most SCPD cops.

But hey, you brought it up.

ahh the joys of a shoppers reference.
Tell me, in the 45 minutes of work you guys do everyday, in the canvass to homes where you knock as lightly as a field mouse(A true skillset if there ever is one), in the 7 plus hours that "are yours" do you ever feel like you owe the public a little something?

And just a word to the newer scpd, if you have a mva or whatever called in via cell or landline by a dep, dont hesitate to blow his "cover" and refuse to respond unless he affirms over the air. Get his call sign, document the fact that he was there, as you finish up dont hesitate to thank the dep unit # over primary.
Hes calling it in to dispatch as opposed to going over your command because hes somewhere he doesnt belong, doing something hes not supposed to do.

[Unregistered333332222]

FRont page news here, wow!!! Big deal! This happened multiple times when Suffolk Highway had the roads and I only remeber two press releases done, and one hardly even got a mention in the press. They didnt push either like they are with this one. Levy really is trying to push the Deps as super cops. Enough already, why not start press releasing the spike in crime and all the shootings in Suffolk? Is Levy afraid that the public might see how all of his police cuts are affecting their safety? Of course. So push the Dummy stopping the Dep, opps I mean the Dep stopping the dummy, and make like its the crime of the century, so one of Levys boneheaded moves looks like its working out.

[Unregistered22222211]

I saw this movie, "lars and the real girl"

[Unregisteredtytry]

But shooting an innocent person IS great work.

You guys should know, ask the unarmed guy in Queens that ONLY the Dep fired on even though there were several other cops present....

[UnregisteredSCABBY]

here is some reality for you pba kool-aide drinkers.. aka jeff pole smokers. deps have to work 500 hrs ot to make what you crybabies make on base. Here is the reality ...... ready......here-we-go.... get out the calculators this equals
SAVING FOR THE TAXPAYER!!!! i am PROUD of the jobs my fellow deps have done with the hwy's thrown at us.

Proud, huh? Proud to be union-busters? If you win the PERB (and thats a BIG if), you will have singlehandedly set back EVERY union in NY state by about 50 or so years. Yeah, I'd hold me head up about that...

[Unregisteredlkjhg]

Proud, huh? Proud to be union-busters? If you win the PERB (and thats a BIG if), you will have singlehandedly set back EVERY union in NY state by about 50 or so years. Yeah, I'd hold me head up about that...

You are such a asswipe, really! the deputies did this? you fucking retard the admin did this we were ordered on and had to go. you were ordered off and left. go eat shit and die. I hope the deps keep it now!!

[Unregistered911]

I have a question. What gives the Deputy the right to confiscate the dummy from the operator?

[Unregisteredadsfasd]

I have a question. What gives the Deputy the right to confiscate the dummy from the operator?

Its evidence of a violation of the law.

[Unregistered607]

just a thought. The end result is she got $130.00 fine. Definitely worth the risk for the other 40 times she got away with it. Why publicize this and let people know if you get caught with one you only get the $130 fine? The dummy Dep even said they are hard to catch and the only reason they caught her was because of the sunglasses and scarf. Why would they publicize what a small fine it is and how easy it is to get away with it for drivers. Do they just seek media attention?

[Say again?]

Hmmm, property that's otherwise lawfully possessed, but an instument of a crime? No, wait, it's a traffic violation. OK, the instrument of a violation. Just like we always seize a loose registration plate, a car that's operated past a red traffic signal, heck, you should see all the cell phones we invoice as evidence for failure to use a hand-held device.

But hey, when you're a second rate agency with a perpetual chip on your shoulder, it makes a great press release.

[Unregist]

Do you let a motorist with an expired temp. insp sticker...keep it?? Or a 221.05...do you give the weed back?? Both violations. Now GF YOURSELF!!

[Unregistered759785]

the cell analogy was genius.......and true, good point

[Achilles]

Do you let a motorist with an expired temp. insp sticker...keep it?? Or a 221.05...do you give the weed back?? Both violations. Now GF YOURSELF!!

Why not confiscate the car too? There is nothing inherently unlawful about possessing a mannequin. If you wrote a motorist for an unseatbelted child would you confiscate the child? Well, maybe YOU would. And then you'd hold a press conference.

[64544]

Do you let a motorist with an expired temp. insp sticker...keep it?? Or a 221.05...do you give the weed back?? Both violations. Now GF YOURSELF!!

You raise a good, but flawed point. Marijuana (for those of you outside of law enforcement, his 221,05 reference) and a (forged) inspection sticker are illegal to possess, therefore they'd be seized. There's no reason to deprive a citizen of his lawfully possessed dummy, or his expired inspection sticker for that matter.

As for your GF YOURSELF reference, I can only say that I wish you a long and healthy life and wish only that you find the satisfaction and validation that you obviously seek.

[Unregist]

Why not confiscate the car too? There is nothing inherently unlawful about possessing a mannequin. If you wrote a motorist for an unseatbelted child would you confiscate the child? Well, maybe YOU would. And then you'd hold a press conference.

Why not....JUST GET OVER IT! You guys need to loosen up and realize it's only a freakin job! The PERB decision is forthcoming...stop you're critiquing and let the chips fall where they may...I really hope some of you have a good therapist on standby just in case you lose!

[Unregist]

You raise a good, but flawed point. Marijuana (for those of you outside of law enforcement, his 221,05 reference) and a (forged) inspection sticker are illegal to possess, therefore they'd be seized. There's no reason to deprive a citizen of his lawfully possessed dummy, or his expired inspection sticker for that matter.

As for your GF YOURSELF reference, I can only say that I wish you a long and healthy life and wish only that you find the satisfaction and validation that you obviously seek.

DMV issues temp inspection stickers(lawfully possessed)should the motorist not have his vehicle inspected w/i ten days doesn't make it a forged instrument! I think you get the point and we could go back and forth all day long but i'd just wish the monday mornin qtr backin on both sides would cease! Makes everyone look like a bunch of little fu@kin kids!!!!

[Unregist]

DMV issues temp inspection stickers(lawfully possessed)should the motorist not have his vehicle inspected w/i ten days doesn't make it a forged instrument! I think you get the point and we could go back and forth all day long but i'd just wish the monday mornin qtr backin on both sides would cease! Makes everyone look like a bunch of little fu@kin kids!!!!

P.S. I wasn't trying to school you on F.I., but i like most L.E wouldn't let some one drive off w/ an expired stkr!

[6544]

DMV issues temp inspection stickers(lawfully possessed)should the motorist not have his vehicle inspected w/i ten days doesn't make it a forged instrument! I think you get the point and we could go back and forth all day long but i'd just wish the monday mornin qtr backin on both sides would cease! Makes everyone look like a bunch of little fu@kin kids!!!!

I think you missed a point of my post. A forged sticker is illegally posessed and taken, but I would have no right to, nor would I take an expired sticker. And neither should you. As to the rest of your post, I'll concede that you're right.

[youareamoron]

P.S. I wasn't trying to school you on F.I., but i like most L.E wouldn't let some one drive off w/ an expired stkr!

You wouldn't let them drive off with an expired inspection sticker but you guys let them drive off drunk.... Very interesting priorities you have

[nypdretired]

Hmmm, property that's otherwise lawfully possessed, but an instument of a crime? No, wait, it's a traffic violation. OK, the instrument of a violation. Just like we always seize a loose registration plate, a car that's operated past a red traffic signal, heck, you should see all the cell phones we invoice as evidence for failure to use a hand-held device.

But hey, when you're a second rate agency with a perpetual chip on your shoulder, it makes a great press release.

You do have to admit the Deps are the darlings of the news media, work it guys. We all know it means money in your pockets with contracts if you have a nice relationship with the press.

[Unregisteredgfder]

You do have to admit the Deps are the darlings of the news media, work it guys. We all know it means money in your pockets with contracts if you have a nice relationship with the press.

The press is a whore. Pure and simple. Will turn on them when it's time.....

[32342342]

Well remember this !!!!!!!

They all smile at us and say "Hey we had nothing to do with it, we hate Levy too"
Some of our idiots fall for it.

Unless your related total separation is due, no more fake smiles and pleasantries.

[wasting timeee]

Do you let a motorist with an expired temp. insp sticker...keep it?? Or a 221.05...do you give the weed back?? Both violations. Now GF YOURSELF!!

You confiscate expired temp inspection stickers?
Why?
In court your testimony that you observed an expired sticker is more then enough proof, write the date of expiration, and if observed the sticker number. the motorist must be able to prove the sticker was valid by paid receipt

[not comparable]

DMV issues temp inspection stickers(lawfully possessed)should the motorist not have his vehicle inspected w/i ten days doesn't make it a forged instrument! I think you get the point and we could go back and forth all day long but i'd just wish the monday mornin qtr backin on both sides would cease! Makes everyone look like a bunch of little fu@kin kids!!!!

inspection stickers, like licenses and plates are property of nys dmv and the police as deponents are authorized to confiscate them.
marijuana is illegal to posess, and the police are authorized to confiscate it.
A dummy in the front seat is private property of the motorist.

[Unregisteredwhich]

inspection stickers, like licenses and plates are property of nys dmv and the police as deponents are authorized to confiscate them.
marijuana is illegal to posess, and the police are authorized to confiscate it.
A dummy in the front seat is private property of the motorist.


If you had been doing actual LE activities.

[Unregisteredloll]

You wouldn't let them drive off with an expired inspection sticker but you guys let them drive off drunk.... Very interesting priorities you have

Please, pd sh!tcans more dwis than anyone.

[I call BS]

Please, pd sh!tcans more dwis than anyone.

And you know this, how? Listen, you got a ticket for speeding. Just pay it & move on with your life.

[Unregisteredloll]

And you know this, how? Listen, you got a ticket for speeding. Just pay it & move on with your life.

Nice try troll, work for another dept, called the pd, they let them go.

[Unregisteredhuh]

The SCPD is the biggest dept, which means they have the largest amount of zeros also. No biggie, just a simple fact.

[Unregisterednaaahhh]

The SCPD is the biggest dept, which means they have the largest amount of zeros also. No biggie, just a simple fact.

ehhh not really.

there is no motivation for a deputy to be anything remotely like a hammer. whether he is a zero, or a non-zero he is not going anywhere by being "active". In fact the top end dep jobs are full of guys who do next to nothing RE THE SHOPPERS!!!!!!!!!!!!

scpd has multiple commands and the ONLY way out of patrol, with or without a hook is stats. A guy with a father who is a boss that makes 30+ arrests a year can bump a guy who makes 40, but hes not going to bump a guy who makes 50+.

Certainly numbers wise there are more zeros in scpd then in the deps, but percentage wise thats hardly true.

[hips dont lie]

Please, pd sh!tcans more dwis than anyone.

Can you provide factual documentation of this?

Lets be real, Prior to getting hwy, the deps never had more then 40 dwi arrests in any given year. Thats from a dept of 250+ with take home police cars.
Scpd annually has 3600-4000 dwi arrests a year.
Putting that in perspective;
less then 40 dwis among 250+ deps is one dwi per every 6 deptuties
3600 among 1800 scpd is 2 per cop.

[Unregisteredhuh]

True. Never said % wise. Deps % wise no doubt have more. But the poster i responded to doubted that dwis a sh!tcanned by the pd, which is a joke.

[which you cannot]

True. Never said % wise. Deps % wise no doubt have more. But the poster i responded to doubted that dwis a sh!tcanned by the pd, which is a joke.

I think hes requesting you back up your opinion with something factual.

[Unregisteredbutwhy??]

True. Never said % wise. Deps % wise no doubt have more. But the poster i responded to doubted that dwis a sh!tcanned by the pd, which is a joke.

Why shitcan a dwi, when you can call your buddy, your neighboring sector car, the cope guys or anyone who is going to want the arrest or overtime???

[UnregisteredCptPhil]

We are no longer the only team in town. The Sheriffs work along side of us and have been doing a good job. Why get your mickey twisted over this? The PERB judge is going to decide Levy's tactics & nobody else. Good for the Deps in nailing that snotty woman riding in the HOV lane.!

[Unregisteredcorrupt]

Why shitcan a dwi, when you can call your buddy, your neighboring sector car, the cope guys or anyone who is going to want the arrest or overtime???

So you are admitting you unlawfully arrest dwis (not observed driving by the arrsting officer)?

[supporting depo]

So you are admitting you unlawfully arrest dwis (not observed driving by the arrsting officer)?

The officer who observed the drunk behind the wheel gives a sworn supporting deposition stating that he observed the driver and what reason he had for stopping vehicle.
Its included in the arrest paperwork, and 100% legal.

[575757]

Nice try troll, work for another dept, called the pd, they let them go.

So what you're really saying is that in your attempt to play cop, you believed a motorist was DWI and were crushed when the real police didn't agree with your "qualified" assessment.

You still need to get over it.

[6565]

So you are admitting you unlawfully arrest dwis (not observed driving by the arrsting officer)?

What kind of training are they giving you guys over at the SO? This is CPL 101 pal. You only make yourself look foolish with this line of reasoning. Really.

[the shoe dept???]

Nice try troll, work for another dept, called the pd, they let them go.

Question, if you work for "another dept" and observed a drunk driver, why do you need any other person to process the arrest? Are you not a sworn law enforcement officer in observation of a misdemeanor at least drunk driver violating some section of 1192 vtl??
Is your GAOE for such NYS, including the area scpd covers?
Exactly what dept do you work for?

[Unregisteredhuh]

So what you're really saying is that in your attempt to play cop, you believed a motorist was DWI and were crushed when the real police didn't agree with your "qualified" assessment.

You still need to get over it.

No asshole. When I defer to the sector I am passing through and they show up and say they got it, and then tell the guy to have someone pick him up I call that sh!tcanning a DWI. Get over yourselves. You have bags of sh!t on your job too.

[Unregisteredhuh]

Question, if you work for "another dept" and observed a drunk driver, why do you need any other person to process the arrest? Are you not a sworn law enforcement officer in observation of a misdemeanor at least drunk driver violating some section of 1192 vtl??
Is your GAOE for such NYS, including the area scpd covers?
Exactly what dept do you work for?

Never said I didnt take it when you guys didnt want it. If its in your pct I give the courtesy to see if you want it.

[33343]

No asshole. When I ............up I call that sh!tcanning a DWI. Get over yourselves. You have bags of sh!t on your job too.

No offense my esteemed colleague, but you seem to have anger management issues. Do you speak to the public like that also? I'm sure the sheriff is very proud of you.

[676777]

Never said I didnt take it when you guys didnt want it. If its in your pct I give the courtesy to see if you want it.

Who are you kidding. Even before this nonsence started, you never played nice. Instead of processing an arrest that had concurrent PD charges, you had your hissy fit, left, and had whined to the PC. That chip's been on your shoulder for decades.

[Unregisteredhuh]

Who are you kidding. Even before this nonsence started, you never played nice. Instead of processing an arrest that had concurrent PD charges, you had your hissy fit, left, and had whined to the PC. That chip's been on your shoulder for decades.

Your right. I wish our Dept was as gracious as your is to others. You retarded or what?

[The best yet]

Dep stops hov driver w/ dummy in car, media blitz ensues.

"Sharkey praised Howard's sharp eye. "To be driving 55 mph and be able to pick up through glass that there was something wrong about the passenger, that's good work," he said."

And to be told that there were 3 people in a car but only 2 are at the mva scene and the window is blown out and the dead 3rd passenger is disovered 20 feet away by a passing motorist 2 hours laterm thats NOT good work....

The best comment is yet to come. After being interviewed the 61 year old driver from Mt. Sinai advised the Deputy that she had been doing this since 2005 and had passed the "guys in the blue and white cars" thousands of times without any problems.

[Unregfoggggymemory]

how quickly the perfect po's forget the montauk hwy incident in shirley....

[Unregisteredrwere]

The best comment is yet to come. After being interviewed the 61 year old driver from Mt. Sinai advised the Deputy that she had been doing this since 2005 and had passed the "guys in the blue and white cars" thousands of times without any problems.

Funny, I don't recall that in ANY of the ridiculous media blitz coverage the Sheriff coordinated...

MVA,DEAD GUY,SUNRISE HWY, DISCOVERED HOURS LATER BY MOTORIST.

I guess "Hawkeye" Howard wasn't at that one, huh?

[Unregisteredduhhuh?]

Never said I didnt take it when you guys didnt want it. If its in your pct I give the courtesy to see if you want it.

Sure, so you drove the guy to the pct in your personal car.....lol

[Unregisteredwowee]

The best comment is yet to come. After being interviewed the 61 year old driver from Mt. Sinai advised the Deputy that she had been doing this since 2005 and had passed the "guys in the blue and white cars" thousands of times without any problems.

Wow, thats so impressive, you guys really are great cops writing that ticket

[Unregisteredluvpup]

Funny, I don't recall that in ANY of the ridiculous media blitz coverage the Sheriff coordinated...

MVA,DEAD GUY,SUNRISE HWY, DISCOVERED HOURS LATER BY MOTORIST.

I guess "Hawkeye" Howard wasn't at that one, huh?

busy checking for manniquenns and blow up dolls in the hov lane

[Unregisteredwedv]

The best comment is yet to come. After being interviewed the 61 year old driver from Mt. Sinai advised the Deputy that she had been doing this since 2005 and had passed the "guys in the blue and white cars" thousands of times without any problems.

she also asked Howard why he had the dummy's face buried in his crotch and his pants were down

[Unregisteredteehee]

busy checking for manniquenns and blow up dolls in the hov lane

lol....

[klkljkllkjklj]

Wow, thats so impressive, you guys really are great cops writing that ticket

you are fighting to get a job back where your role is traffic enforcement, yet you guys want nothing to do with writing tickets and fault those that do

[343434]

you are fighting to get a job back where your role is traffic enforcement, yet you guys want nothing to do with writing tickets and fault those that do

And your complete and objective analysis of the department consists of your observations on the Report? Are you this inept at your day job? Perhaps this IS your day job.

[Unregisteredwowee]

you are fighting to get a job back where your role is traffic enforcement, yet you guys want nothing to do with writing tickets and fault those that do

Thats cute. The post you quoted was a reply to a post where the lady claimed to have passed scpd w/ the dummy everyday. Scpd hwy has caught fleeing 10-5 suspects, busted drug rings, caught many, many felony subjects in their time. Yet a poster seems to think catching a person in violation of the hov lane law is the epitome of all things to do with highway.

Its a fucking violation rook. Try acting like you've done it before.
I'm not a former hwy guy. btw
I have made over 300 arrests in my career in scpd, some of them have made the news. I have always requested my name be excluded from the press release, and deferred to my immediate supervisor for the press interview.

[Unregisteredrerte]

you are fighting to get a job back where your role is traffic enforcement, yet you guys want nothing to do with writing tickets and fault those that do

Not at all. Don't however, do a media tour about doing your job. Particularly when you do it incorrectly (seizing property as evidence of a viloation?).

[Spencer Fisher]

Hes calling it in to dispatch as opposed to going over your command because hes somewhere he doesnt belong, doing something hes not supposed to do.

Mind your own friggin business, Dirtbag.

[Unregistered nickname]

I have made over 300 arrests in my career in scpd, some of them have made the news.

I have always requested my name be excluded from the press release, and deferred to my immediate supervisor for the press interview.

Talk is cheap. Prove it. lol!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[free ride is over]

Mind your own friggin business, Dirtbag.

Sucks being in the public eye huh?
For years you guys got the pass, because the public didnt even think you could pull them over. The pds put up with your scams because thats what we do for each other.

Now you guys want to exchange pleasantries on internet sites....but when we get down to the nitty gritty, you are embarassed and want us to be quiet.


I totally agree with the post you've quoted. In fact my squad has spoken with then two main pct dispatchers and they will tell turrets the same thing. Go over primary with it.

[the one upper]

Sucks being in the public eye huh?
For years you guys got the pass, because the public didnt even think you could pull them over. The pds put up with your scams because thats what we do for each other.

Now you guys want to exchange pleasantries on internet sites....but when we get down to the nitty gritty, you are embarassed and want us to be quiet.


I totally agree with the post you've quoted. In fact my squad has spoken with then two main pct dispatchers and they will tell turrets the same thing. Go over primary with it.

I'll go one better, if I am dispatched to a incident via a deputy calling dispatch, I'll ask over primary what dep unit is on scene. On arrival I will put myself 36 with the dep's call sign. If he is unmarked I will get his call sign. And thank him over primary for the assist.

[the mall awaits]

I'll go one better, if I am dispatched to a incident via a deputy calling dispatch, I'll ask over primary what dep unit is on scene. On arrival I will put myself 36 with the dep's call sign. If he is unmarked I will get his call sign. And thank him over primary for the assist.

You fool!!!! If he is unmarked? If he is unmarked he is not stopping to begin with. They've got shopping to do.

[Unregisteredgot me]

You fool!!!! If he is unmarked? If he is unmarked he is not stopping to begin with. They've got shopping to do.

lol....derrr I dont know what I was thinking there...lol

[UnregisteredCHILL]

But shooting an innocent person IS great work.

we'LL change the shooting silmulation program to have a guy hold a Mcdonald's bag and then a voice tell you he is a bad guy......Shoot if he won't drop the bag. If it was Wendy's, it's ok......don't shoot. CLOWNS

[Unregisteredgotit]

But shooting an innocent person IS great work.

Cops: Suffolk sheriff shoots fugitive in QueensBY DANIEL EDWARD ROSEN | Special to Newsday
3:13 PM EDT, July 1, 2009
A man with a felony drug warrant out for his arrest was shot in the stomach by a member of the Suffolk County Sheriff's Department working as part of a federal task force in Queens Wednesday morning, according to New York City Police.

Members of the NY/NJ HIDTA task force, an anti-drug trafficking agency, approached a man wanted on a felony drug warrant at 116th Street and Springfield Avenue, Commissioner Ray Kelly said.

During the ensuing confrontation, the suspect was shot and hit in the lower abdomen by the Suffolk deputy sheriff, according to Kelly.

Further details on the incident were not immediately available.

The man, identified by a law enforcement source as Charles Mitchell, 28, was taken to Jamaica Hospital Medical Center where he was listed in stable condition. The NYPD was not clear as to the origins of Mitchell's warrant.

Phone calls to the Suffolk County Sheriffs Department and the NY/NJ HIDTA task force were not immediately returned.

in queens of all places? I hope the dep has a good reason, otherwise rev sharpton will march all over his ass



Where is the moron claiming this guy was wanted for homicide?
Its a stupid freaking drug warrant, a guy surrounded by 10
+ cops or feds the rest of whom didnt even unholster their guns

[5454]

He had his gun in his credit card pocket. Honest mistake.

[adiufhe]

He had his gun in his credit card pocket. Honest mistake.

At least he was a bad guy and not like the poor innocent guy trying to get home last month and had a district sector cop panic and shoot him for no reason.

[45454]

At least he was a bad guy and not like the poor innocent guy trying to get home last month and had a district sector cop panic and shoot him for no reason.

That makes no sense. Want to try again?

[beatup+down]

At least he was a bad guy and not like the poor innocent guy trying to get home last month and had a district sector cop panic and shoot him for no reason.
At least he was a "bad guy"???????
I thought he was among fbis most wanted ?
Had a murder warrant?
He just had a warrant.


Then why didnt the 10+ other cops on scene even think about pulling their service weapon out?

And he was shot for what reason?
Itchy trigger finger....no more no less.
The scpd who shot his guy was alone and outnumbered and had no idea if he had a "bad guy" or a good guy.
The dep was part of a unit, a supposed elite unit that outnumbered the guy.
They both reacted to the subject and shot. It doesnt matter if the threat was real or perceived.
One could argue about what these guys were or were not AFTER THE FACT, until the sky falls.
Face value scpd alone doing a car stop on subjects that could possibly be invovled in an armed robbery. Out of nerves or whatever shoots one guy who fails to comply.
Scdep with ten other leo has a guy with a simple warrant, during the intial stop and question, out of nerves or whatever shoots one guywithout much of a reason.....or else there would be 10 holes in him

[UnregisteredOOOPS!!]

At least he was a bad guy and not like the poor innocent guy trying to get home last month and had a district sector cop panic and shoot him for no reason.

He was not identified as a guy with a warrant until after the dep shot him.....

[uifkdi]

At least he was a "bad guy"???????
I thought he was among fbis most wanted ?
Had a murder warrant?
He just had a warrant.


Then why didnt the 10+ other cops on scene even think about pulling their service weapon out?

And he was shot for what reason?
Itchy trigger finger....no more no less.
The scpd who shot his guy was alone and outnumbered and had no idea if he had a "bad guy" or a good guy.
The dep was part of a unit, a supposed elite unit that outnumbered the guy.
They both reacted to the subject and shot. It doesnt matter if the threat was real or perceived.
One could argue about what these guys were or were not AFTER THE FACT, until the sky falls.
Face value scpd alone doing a car stop on subjects that could possibly be invovled in an armed robbery. Out of nerves or whatever shoots one guy who fails to comply.
Scdep with ten other leo has a guy with a simple warrant, during the intial stop and question, out of nerves or whatever shoots one guywithout much of a reason.....or else there would be 10 holes in him

you are outnumbered on almost evry car stop. half the car stops the people never comply because either they dont speak english, pretend not to speak english or are just plain stupid. There are many of these car stops done every day and the guy does not end up getting shot. Admit the sector cop panicked for no reason. The county will be forking over a lot of money to settle the law suit. At least with the dep there will be NO law suit and even if there was the US MArshals have already declared the shoot a GOOD shoot and have indemnified the Deputy. Also there were 6 other officers on the scene who had their weapon out.

[Unregisteredtoday111]

Hmmm, property that's otherwise lawfully possessed, but an instument of a crime? No, wait, it's a traffic violation. OK, the instrument of a violation. Just like we always seize a loose registration plate, a car that's operated past a red traffic signal, heck, you should see all the cell phones we invoice as evidence for failure to use a hand-held device.

But hey, when you're a second rate agency with a perpetual chip on your shoulder, it makes a great press release.

The violation was driving in an HOV lane with only one person. The dummy was to fit in but it did not make it legal or illegal. WWW.GIVE THE DUMMY BACK!.COM
Illegal Search and Seizure!But it would not have been a press release without it. BTWHWY has nabbeda number of those over the years, even a NYC Sgt.

[UnregisteredWTF???]

you are outnumbered on almost evry car stop. half the car stops the people never comply because either they dont speak english, pretend not to speak english or are just plain stupid. There are many of these car stops done every day and the guy does not end up getting shot. Admit the sector cop panicked for no reason. The county will be forking over a lot of money to settle the law suit. At least with the dep there will be NO law suit and even if there was the US MArshals have already declared the shoot a GOOD shoot and have indemnified the Deputy. Also there were 6 other officers on the scene who had their weapon out.

Wrong on every account.
This wasnt a car stop, it was a felony car stop. While there are plenty of them, its not every day, and its not everyday you are alone for several minutes. The officer spoke both English and Spanish and gave commands in both. The cop did not panick, he advised the subjects numerous times to show hands, stop moving or he was going to shoot. He was smart enough to transmit stating the subjects were not cooperative, and you can hear them in the background being belligerent.
While the shooting has not been officially closed, its obvious there are no charges either dept or criminal pending.
I dont know where you got your info on the dep shooting.
Not one other leo had their gun out. The guy who was shot is in fact suing the dep sheriffs dept, and the borough of queens among others. Anyone can sue for anything. He was unarmed and shot in the stomach.
And while the deps shooting was cleared, it was not done so by the U.S. Marshals, as they are not a governing govt body, but the Queens D.A.

[Unregisteredignorant]

e US MArshals have already declared the shoot a GOOD shoot and have indemnified the Deputy. Also there were 6 other officers on the scene who had their weapon out.

The us marshals? Since when do they investigate incidents that occur in Queens? Since when are they District attoneys?
You obviously do not know what you are talking about. The shooting was investigated by nypd detectives, as it occurred within their jurisdiction. Their findings delivered to the Queens D.A. who decides if the shooting was justifiable. The shooting was also investigated by the Suffolk county sheriffs dept internally, THEY are the ones who indemnify the deputy. Since they are the ones who would be sued as well as the dep.

[Unregisteredignorant]

. The county will be forking over a lot of money to settle the law suit. At least with the dep there will be NO law suit and even if there was .

Again, you obviously do not know what the fuck you are talking about. Both the cop and the dep had a high risk stop. One of a vehicle occupied 3 times, one of a subject who possibly was wanted. Both officers had a less then cooperative subject. Both felt threatened and fired.
By law, who the subjects were, what weapons they had or didnt and what their intentions were, after the facts are known do not matter. Its what the officer perceived at the time of the stop.
Both cases were justified shoots.
Without knowing the actual particulars of either case, only a fool (you) would venture a guess on whether there would be a law suit(there will be in both cases) and where that lawsuit will end up. There is a huge difference between criminal negligence and civil rights violations. There is pain and suffering, mental anguish, loss of physical mobility, loss of potential earnings, etc.

[Unregisteredignorant]

you are outnumbered on almost evry car stop. half the car stops the people never comply because either they dont speak english, pretend not to speak english or are just plain stupid. There are many of these car stops done every day and the guy does not end up getting shot. Admit the sector cop panicked for no reason. .

Again, you are talking out of your ass. This was a car stop of a vehicle matching the description of 3 subjects invovled in an armed robbery.
There goes your "its an everyday car stop" theory out the window. This isnt 3 kids ina car with some weed on them, or a guy with an expired inspection.
The officer was alone, and the subjects were not cooperating. Again there goes your everyday car stop theory. When you do a high risk car stop known as a felony car stop, and the subjects cooperate, things do not escalate, but when you do one and the subjects are not listening, as a police officer you are trained to believe that they are either buying time to escape or to fight you. As a police officer, you do not have to wait, or reason with them, if it escalates to physical or deadly physical force, so be it.
Like you said, car stops are done every day, felony or otherwise, and the subjects generally do as they are told, and are not shot, and no, it just doesnt matter if they dont speak english,(in this case the officer spoke spanish) or are stupid. In this case the subjects didnt listen, escalating the situation and the officer had no choice. The officer did not panick, listening to him on the radio there was no panick, he advised the subjects numerous times to comply, after that he advised that he will shoot them. It was not a knee jerk reaction. He asked over the air for the eta of the next unit. He advised he was not controlled. Thats not panic

[horseUnregisteredshyt]

The us marshals? Since when do they investigate incidents that occur in Queens? Since when are they District attoneys?
You obviously do not know what you are talking about. The shooting was investigated by nypd detectives, as it occurred within their jurisdiction. Their findings delivered to the Queens D.A. who decides if the shooting was justifiable. The shooting was also investigated by the Suffolk county sheriffs dept internally, THEY are the ones who indemnify the deputy. Since they are the ones who would be sued as well as the dep.

The guy,uifkdi, is so full of shit, all one has to do is read the press release, done by nypd, Commish Kelly.
Us marshals are officers and no more. They do not investigate s/c dep shootings, that would be nypd and the queens d/a's office.. and would only be involved if one of their officers did shoot the subject. They certainly would not indemnify an s/c dep unless they were going to foot the bill for the law suit on behalf of the dep/sheriffs dept.

[Unregisteredliar]

p. half the car stops the people never comply because either they dont speak english, pretend not to speak english or are just plain stupid. .

Where did you dream that up from?
Please post your source

[8347198]

Where did you dream that up from?
Please post your source

He read it on the report. it must be true.

[Unburper]

You Idiots got it all wrong. This is how it went down.

Deputy Burps - newsday notified

instantly there are rebuttal posts on report stating that deputy in fact DID NOT BURP - was taking burps away from suffolk county police officers and are burp scabs.

other posts state that deputy in fact farted and original poster must be wrong.

Frayler files an injunction with PERB stopping all deputies from burping. It is quickly thrown out as burping is not in their jurisdiction.

Suffolk County PD show up at a sheriff fund-raiser and start burping as a protest.

hope this clears things up.

[mr taggert]

nothing a dose of beano won't cure.

[its true..itsdamntrue]

You Idiots got it all wrong. This is how it went down.

Deputy Burps - newsday notified

instantly there are rebuttal posts on report stating that deputy in fact DID NOT BURP - was taking burps away from suffolk county police officers and are burp scabs.

other posts state that deputy in fact farted and original poster must be wrong.

Frayler files an injunction with PERB stopping all deputies from burping. It is quickly thrown out as burping is not in their jurisdiction.

Suffolk County PD show up at a sheriff fund-raiser and start burping as a protest.

hope this clears things up.

The deps are far more gaseous due to the fact that bologna is their number 1 food crop.
They burp and fart more then scpd, or any other dept.

[and done little else]

The deps are far more gaseous due to the fact that bologna is their number 1 food crop.
They burp and fart more then scpd, or any other dept.

Deps have been farting and burping in suffolk for over 400 years,

[Unburped]

The deps are far more gaseous due to the fact that bologna is their number 1 food crop.
They burp and fart more then scpd, or any other dept.

Deputies contribute to the greenhouse effect by over 400% compared to scpd due to their baloney diet. A lot of them sneak extra american cheese and are lactose intollerant....not a good combo

[P U]

Deps have been farting and burping in suffolk for over 400 years,

No wonder it stinks around here.

[UnregisteredVVVVVVVVV]

You Frayler Kool-aid Drinkers Have No Sense Of Humor.

[UnregisteredDawgs]

Dude....lay off the Kool Aide! You're just a pawn....there is no savings....and eventually you will get screwed over because all you do is WRITE WRITE WRITE. Learn to do real police work instead of just a ticket writer for the county.

This from Suffolks Finest? You jerk offs spend most of your time avoiding Police work

Fuckin jerk offs

[whosavoiding???]

This from Suffolks Finest? You jerk offs spend most of your time avoiding Police work

Fuckin jerk offs

2 words

THE SHOPPERS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[Unregisterednonon]

You Frayler Kool-aid Drinkers Have No Sense Of Humor.

really?
post 92-97 were quite amusing imho

[Unregisteredawgssux]

This from Suffolks Finest? You jerk offs spend most of your time avoiding Police work

Fuckin jerk offs

Really? So guys join scpd and handle 700-800,000 911 calls, 20,000 arrests, 4000 dwis to avoid work?
And guys become deps to handle zero calls, 1000 arrests, and prior to getting hwy 30 dwis?