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steady mids
02-02-2010, 08:28 AM
Has anybody else noticed the significant decline in the quality of arguments being presented here lately? Trolls will always be trolls with their firehouse/donut shop replies, but the spin coming from H.Lee has come to a screaching halt. It seems that since Levy turned his sights on Albany, he must have re-assigned his hack/spin team to unleash his demented math and logic on the poor souls upstate.
Is there a report for Buffalo, Syracuse, and Binghamton?

Unregistered1111222331
02-02-2010, 08:54 AM
Has anybody else noticed the significant decline in the quality of arguments being presented here lately? Trolls will always be trolls with their firehouse/donut shop replies, but the spin coming from H.Lee has come to a screaching halt. It seems that since Levy turned his sights on Albany, he must have re-assigned his hack/spin team to unleash his demented math and logic on the poor souls upstate.
Is there a report for Buffalo, Syracuse, and Binghamton?

He has been un-levy like! But wait till the contract comes out, probably at the same time as perb too. He already has the press release, and the Newsday front page article is already waiting to be printed. Hes a slimeball, and him being quiet only means hes up to something.

Yeah a smart man would know if you had real ambitions of a higher political office you should start cleaning up the mess you have created because thats not going to fly in the rest of the state. But thats the key, "a smart man"....he will blow it!

Unregisteredghrt
02-02-2010, 09:30 AM
If levy was smart, he might let this go, like suozzi did, and declare it a huge savings etc....its going to look bad if he admits to the loss.

bomb squad
02-02-2010, 12:54 PM
If levy was smart, he might let this go, like suozzi did, and declare it a huge savings etc....its going to look bad if he admits to the loss.

Suozzi was smart. He knew there is no use trying to defuse a bomb once it went off. But that's not Levy's style. No doubt he will come out swinging, taking shots at the arbitrator(even though he refused to negotiate and left a deal on the table), the "greedy PBA"(even though he "loves" cops), and the Legislature(because they are getting tired of him games).
When it comes to Levy's mistakes, it always someone else's fault.

Unregisteredunno
02-02-2010, 01:10 PM
Suozzi was smart. He knew there is no use trying to defuse a bomb once it went off. But that's not Levy's style. No doubt he will come out swinging, taking shots at the arbitrator(even though he refused to negotiate and left a deal on the table), the "greedy PBA"(even though he "loves" cops), and the Legislature(because they are getting tired of him games).
When it comes to Levy's mistakes, it always someone else's fault.

If levy blames the arb board, then what hes really admitting, the whole issue that he swore was his crusade, stopping the pba, the raises etc, was always beyond his grasp.
So for those who voted for levy because he said he was going to stop us, wouldnt they feel betrayed or lied to? Because all along he didnt have a chance?

Unregisteredworsestill
02-02-2010, 03:55 PM
If levy blames the arb board, then what hes really admitting, the whole issue that he swore was his crusade, stopping the pba, the raises etc, was always beyond his grasp.
So for those who voted for levy because he said he was going to stop us, wouldnt they feel betrayed or lied to? Because all along he didnt have a chance?


And if he wanted to stop Binding Arbitration so bad then why did he GIVE it to the Sheriffs for FREE when they were not entitled to it/


Hmmmm, I wonder.

Thnk goodness for the deps, b/c at least they will see raises in their future thatnks to thinks voluntary move by the CE.

Unregistered333344444
02-02-2010, 04:52 PM
The police are getting a good contract because Levy was unwilling to work on one with the pba that would have been less than what the arbitrator will give them. As for the Sheriffs, they will most likely have leave the highways back to the police dept, who had control of them for decades, and afterwards because of all of the hours they put in performing police functions at the order of Steve Levy, will get a very good contract as well.

Bottom line is that Steve Levys hatred for police is going to give them bigger raises through arbitration and parity, than a County exec who would have been willing to sit down and negotiate.

counter intuitive
02-02-2010, 06:16 PM
The police are getting a good contract because Levy was unwilling to work on one with the pba that would have been less than what the arbitrator will give them. As for the Sheriffs, they will most likely have leave the highways back to the police dept, who had control of them for decades, and afterwards because of all of the hours they put in performing police functions at the order of Steve Levy, will get a very good contract as well.

Bottom line is that Steve Levys hatred for police is going to give them bigger raises through arbitration and parity, than a County exec who would have been willing to sit down and negotiate.

If Levy sat down and negotiated a fair deal with the PBA, he wouldn't have any "bad guy" to blame for the county's fiscal problems except himself.

It's to his advantage to have the police contracts go to arbitration, so he can have somebody else to blame for the financial woes of the county. He will NEVER go after the teachers and school district taxes because there are so many more of them. There are maybe 2000 patrol cops and front line supervisors in suffolk county. It's easier to villify the relativly small number of police, then the thousands and thousands of school teachers and district employees.

Unregisteredflawed
02-03-2010, 10:28 AM
If Levy sat down and negotiated a fair deal with the PBA, he wouldn't have any "bad guy" to blame for the county's fiscal problems except himself.

It's to his advantage to have the police contracts go to arbitration, so he can have somebody else to blame for the financial woes of the county. He will NEVER go after the teachers and school district taxes because there are so many more of them. There are maybe 2000 patrol cops and front line supervisors in suffolk county. It's easier to villify the relativly small number of police, then the thousands and thousands of school teachers and district employees.

Im sorry, but if scpd gets a better contract with levy then gaffney, with all levys rhetoric, then he has failed to live up to his word. It doesnt matter who gave the award, if levy cannot stop the "bloated salaries" then he should not have used that to dupe the unsuspecting public into voting for him on those campaign issues

sit and spin
02-03-2010, 03:49 PM
Im sorry, but if scpd gets a better contract with levy then gaffney, with all levys rhetoric, then he has failed to live up to his word. It doesnt matter who gave the award, if levy cannot stop the "bloated salaries" then he should not have used that to dupe the unsuspecting public into voting for him on those campaign issues

"Unsuspecting public"???
most of the general public is uninformed, and believes whatever spin they are spoon fed by our local "media". That plays right into Levy's hands. He has the media in his pocket, and he is the master of the 30 second sound bite that blames everyone else. He has no interest in solving the county's problems, he is only interesred in getting re-elected and he'll say anything to do it.

who dat say who dat
02-05-2010, 06:06 PM
Has anybody else noticed the significant decline in the quality of arguments being presented here lately? Trolls will always be trolls with their firehouse/donut shop replies, but the spin coming from H.Lee has come to a screaching halt. It seems that since Levy turned his sights on Albany, he must have re-assigned his hack/spin team to unleash his demented math and logic on the poor souls upstate.
Is there a report for Buffalo, Syracuse, and Binghamton?

tru dat

Unregisteredbigggif
02-06-2010, 07:21 AM
If levy was smart, he might let this go, like suozzi did, and declare it a huge savings etc....its going to look bad if he admits to the loss.

hes not that smart. ego is his drive

Unregisteredloll
02-06-2010, 11:36 AM
Has anybody else noticed the significant decline in the quality of arguments being presented here lately? Trolls will always be trolls with their firehouse/donut shop replies, but the spin coming from H.Lee has come to a screaching halt. It seems that since Levy turned his sights on Albany, he must have re-assigned his hack/spin team to unleash his demented math and logic on the poor souls upstate.
Is there a report for Buffalo, Syracuse, and Binghamton?

You guys really need to get over yourselves. You think Little Stevie has people watching the troll infested report to argue with posters that are 90% civilians and that have 15 different personalities? Who do you guys think you are? You scored well on a fckn civil service exam. And im sure your quality PO's dont spend their time on here. Get a life.

Unregisterednaiveposters.
02-06-2010, 12:36 PM
You guys really need to get over yourselves. You think Little Stevie has people watching the troll infested report to argue with posters that are 90% civilians and that have 15 different personalities? Who do you guys think you are? You scored well on a fckn civil service exam. And im sure your quality PO's dont spend their time on here. Get a life.

moron, a distant family member of mine was an intern last semester for
1 of levys political lackeys, who will remain unnamed, his job was to go on message boards, including this 1, newsday, news12, etc, spread the word of steve levy, and rebutt those who speak against him. He said this site was popular because of its lax posting restrictions.
He also couldnt believe he was getting college credit for playing on the internet.

Unregisteredbunked
02-06-2010, 12:38 PM
? You scored well on a fckn civil service exam. .

Over 7,000 other applicants scored equal or better then me on the exam. 6,700 of them were not hired.

Unregisteredartrue
02-07-2010, 07:18 AM
moron, a distant family member of mine was an intern last semester for
1 of levys political lackeys, who will remain unnamed, his job was to go on message boards, including this 1, newsday, news12, etc, spread the word of steve levy, and rebutt those who speak against him. He said this site was popular because of its lax posting restrictions.
He also couldnt believe he was getting college credit for playing on the internet.

oh definitely true

Uh huh.
02-07-2010, 10:07 AM
moron, a distant family member of mine was an intern last semester for
1 of levys political lackeys, who will remain unnamed, his job was to go on message boards, including this 1, newsday, news12, etc, spread the word of steve levy, and rebutt those who speak against him. He said this site was popular because of its lax posting restrictions.
He also couldnt believe he was getting college credit for playing on the internet.

A neighbor of mine reports the same. Your government at work folks.

Unregisteredloll
02-07-2010, 10:07 AM
moron, a distant family member of mine was an intern last semester for
1 of levys political lackeys, who will remain unnamed, his job was to go on message boards, including this 1, newsday, news12, etc, spread the word of steve levy, and rebutt those who speak against him. He said this site was popular because of its lax posting restrictions.
He also couldnt believe he was getting college credit for playing on the internet.

Does that distant family member live by my model girlfriend in Niagra Falls? And this intern keeps this to himself because why? Nice try moron. The only hacks you guys speak of are yourselves posting bs that you can respond to.

Unregisteredloll
02-07-2010, 10:08 AM
Over 7,000 other applicants scored equal or better then me on the exam. 6,700 of them were not hired.

So your less retarded than them. Congrats. Its still not rocket science.

the truth hurts.
02-07-2010, 10:09 AM
Does that distant family member live by my model girlfriend in Niagra Falls? And this intern keeps this to himself because why? Nice try moron. The only hacks you guys speak of are yourselves posting bs that you can respond to.

Now that the college kids are back to school, we have to deal with "the lesser qualified" hacks like this guy.

Unregisteredloll
02-07-2010, 10:16 AM
Now that the college kids are back to school, we have to deal with "the lesser qualified" hacks like this guy.

Brilliant comeback. Yes. Levy is consumed with you guys. You guys are so arrogant its funny.

Unregisteredloll
02-07-2010, 10:26 AM
Actually, I retract that last part. He IS consumed with you guys. However I still dont buy the 'Hack' bs. Never will.

Unregisteredconsumed
02-07-2010, 10:30 AM
Brilliant comeback. Yes. Levy is consumed with you guys. You guys are so arrogant its funny.

He may or may not be but you certainly are

+thenthere is u
02-07-2010, 10:46 AM
So your less retarded than them. Congrats. Its still not rocket science.

Its you are not your. stupid ass.
No, its not rocket science, its a process that simply weeds out over 95% of the potential public, leaving the rest bitter trolls trying to downplay a job that is top 10% in salary, top 5% in benefits, and top 7% in pensions on Long island

whogivesafuck
02-07-2010, 10:47 AM
However I still dont buy the 'Hack' bs. Never will.

Whoopee!!!!!!!!!!
So?

34343
02-07-2010, 10:52 AM
Whoopee!!!!!!!!!!
So?

Actually he's doing it out of self-loathing & not money or college credit. How sad is that?

Unregisteredloll
02-07-2010, 01:38 PM
Whoopee!!!!!!!!!!
So?

Every time someone has a valid point you call them a hack or a scab. Again, im sure suffolks finest dont spend their time on here. Its the zeros that need to pat themselves on the back.

Unregisteredloll
02-07-2010, 01:45 PM
Every time someone has a valid point you call them a hack or a scab. Again, im sure suffolks finest dont spend their time on here. Its the zeros that need to pat themselves on the back.

The post you quoted states neither, it simply states your opinion isnt as highly sought as you might believe

UnregisteredLOLL
02-07-2010, 04:54 PM
The post you quoted states neither, it simply states your opinion isnt as highly sought as you might believe

You got me. Good one.

they're back!
02-12-2010, 05:29 PM
the contract must be close at hand. The Levy hack/spin machine is gearing up for battle!