O'Reilly/Beck

[Stating the Obvious]

Good show. That they kicked off the show in Nassau County comes as no surprise as it is and always will be the hub of the American dream though it seems that dream is in short supply in the last year. It's nice to see there are people who still hold onto American values, principles and cherish their freedom unlike the current leaders and the morons who voted them into office and if they could would control ever aspect of our day to day lives. Obama, Pelosi, Reid and their supporters simply sucked the life out of the country and have no intention of putting it back anytime to soon.

[Unregistered 111]

Good show. That they kicked off the show in Nassau County comes as no surprise as it is and always will be the hub of the American dream though it seems that dream is in short supply in the last year. It's nice to see there are people who still hold onto American values, principles and cherish their freedom unlike the current leaders and the morons who voted them into office and if they could would control ever aspect of our day to day lives. Obama, Pelosi, Reid and their supporters simply sucked the life out of the country and have no intention of putting it back anytime to soon.

to bad all the great men and women killed since MISSION ACCOMPLISHED, cant enjoy life today, get real fool, they all suck

[Great Evening]

I agree this was an awesome show. Funny, truthful and they complimented each other. Loved the references to Levittown. Both of these men speak the truth, from the heart and put themselves out there to be ridiculed by liberals. I could have listened to them speak hours more. Great crowd too. Just your average, hard working fans out for a nice night. Hope they continue to do this type of show.

[Unregistered456456]

I wanted to go, but it sold out quickly. Glad to hear it was good.

[Unregistered323]

I wanted to go, but it sold out quickly. Glad to hear it was good.

You cant compare OReilly and Beck. Both are to far right for me but OReilly is generaly historicly correct when he says things. Beck says things that simply put are historicly inaccurate. Im sorry, but anyone who thinks a tax on slaves in an indication of our forefathers view on immigration is an imbecile.

So far all Obama and Pelosi have done is show there as incompetent as Bush and Cheney where. When will America wake up and realize neither side serves everyday Americans

[STFU Already]

You cant compare OReilly and Beck. Both are to far right for me but OReilly is generaly historicly correct when he says things. Beck says things that simply put are historicly inaccurate. Im sorry, but anyone who thinks a tax on slaves in an indication of our forefathers view on immigration is an imbecile.

So far all Obama and Pelosi have done is show there as incompetent as Bush and Cheney where. When will America wake up and realize neither side serves everyday Americans

Here we go again with the broken record about Bush. It's going to rain tomorrow so it's got to be Bush's fault. Been there, done that. It's going to be a painful 3 years listening to you, your ilk and your village idiot president chant this mantra over and over and over day after day after day.

[U r an a**hole]

Here we go again with the broken record about Bush. It's going to rain tomorrow so it's got to be Bush's fault. Been there, done that. It's going to be a painful 3 years listening to you, your ilk and your village idiot president chant this mantra over and over and over day after day after day.

You morons blamed EVERYTHING, including 9/11, on Clinton, so yeah you're gonna get an earful now about Bush. If you don't like it you can always pierce your eardrums with an icepick.

[We rest our case]

You morons blamed EVERYTHING, including 9/11, on Clinton, so yeah you're gonna get an earful now about Bush. If you don't like it you can always pierce your eardrums with an icepick.

Who mentioned Clinton and 9/11? A liberal. Don't see no mention about anyone blaming Clinton for anything but somebody doing the Bush rant. We think you're full of it. Why is it always a liberal to have to bring everyone mood down. Dontcha liberals think it's time to put a sock in it with the blame game and call it a day.

[456789123]

What I can't understand is how Bush is blamed for 9/11 when it happened 7 1/2 months into his presidency; and how Obama is still blameless for what is going on now when he's already had 1 year in office??

At least use the same criteria to judge and blame.

[Unregistered323]

Here we go again with the broken record about Bush. It's going to rain tomorrow so it's got to be Bush's fault. Been there, done that. It's going to be a painful 3 years listening to you, your ilk and your village idiot president chant this mantra over and over and over day after day after day.

Pathetic. YOu rpart of the problem. Part of America that chooses what they think is a side and then sticks his head in the sand. If you note I lump Bush in with Obama, I do not glorify one and villify the other. SO far the Obama Presidency has done dick, You think Bush accomplished anything though? All of Washington, both parties hid their heads in the sand becasue people where making money hand over fist in a housing market that they all knew would bankrupt the Nation. Neither side did anything. And after the SUpremes COurts last decision, wheres all the people screaming about legislating from the bench ? Private Corporations and Big Unions now own AMerica. CongratsANd that Osama is still alive and out there is an utter disgrace

[Unregisteredrtyhu]

They say nasty things about various groups and people think it is ok. Why is it ok to be mean? O'Reilly and Beck are mean bullies.

[Unregisteredsdfghj]

Pathetic. YOu rpart of the problem. Part of America that chooses what they think is a side and then sticks his head in the sand. If you note I lump Bush in with Obama, I do not glorify one and villify the other. SO far the Obama Presidency has done dick, You think Bush accomplished anything though? All of Washington, both parties hid their heads in the sand becasue people where making money hand over fist in a housing market that they all knew would bankrupt the Nation. Neither side did anything. And after the SUpremes COurts last decision, wheres all the people screaming about legislating from the bench ? Private Corporations and Big Unions now own AMerica. CongratsANd that Osama is still alive and out there is an utter disgrace

What is with all your weird capitalization? Is that supposed to mean something? Or are you just a dope?

[Guest1275]

Here we go again with the broken record about Bush. It's going to rain tomorrow so it's got to be Bush's fault. Been there, done that. It's going to be a painful 3 years listening to you, your ilk and your village idiot president chant this mantra over and over and over day after day after day.

Bush was the biggest Presidential failure of my lifetime- and I 've been around since Eisenhower.

A phony war, a dead SEC, tax cuts for no reason, a blown out budget and a blown out economy...The man was a cancer on this country.

No amount of ridicule or disdain is enough for him. You don't like hearing it?

That is just too damned bad. Live with it.

[Just Be Patient]

Bush was the biggest Presidential failure of my lifetime- and I 've been around since Eisenhower.

A phony war, a dead SEC, tax cuts for no reason, a blown out budget and a blown out economy...The man was a cancer on this country.

No amount of ridicule or disdain is enough for him. You don't like hearing it?

That is just too damned bad. Live with it.

History will show that after Obama, Jimmy Carter as the 2nd worst President of the US. The graffiti is on the wall. We understand how impulsive and impatient Obama supporters are but it's obvious he's a colossal failure in the leadership role

[Guest1275]

History will show that after Obama, Jimmy Carter as the 2nd worst President of the US. The graffiti is on the wall. We understand how impulsive and impatient Obama supporters are but it's obvious he's a colossal failure in the leadership role


Obvious to whom? Bush "led" this country to ruin, and it will take the better part of a decade to restore any semblance of normalcy. My family will never forget what he did to the economy and my business- ever.


Obama's economic team prevented the total collapse of the economy, we are finally focused on issues that really matter instead of grandstanding for religious idiots as in the Terry Schiavo case, and we finally have a sensible foreign policy and respect for our country has gone up around the world.

You like Bush? Go ahead. You remind me of those Commies who still adored Stalin even after they found out he murdered millions of his own people.

There are fools out there who would complain about Thomas Jefferson if he were alive.

[Kudo's 2 Beck/O'Reilly]

Saw the show and I have to say the best part of the show was the entire show. Beck and O'Reilly didn't leave one stone unturned when exposing the liberal political hacks running this nation into the ground. Good to know the liberals have their pink panites in a bunch over the entire show knowing they touched a nerve makes it all the better. BRAVO!

[11756]

Why do people insist on re-writing history? First read the dictionary. Bush was not a conservative nor a Republican. Obama is not a socialist or a liberal.

Bush was a big-government nationalist, who has presided over the greatest expansion of the state since the Great Society.
- After 9/11 he created the huge domestic bureaucratic known as the Homeland Security Department.
- He implemented the Medicare prescription drug plan - a massive, new entitlement program.
- He pushed for the No Child Left Behind Act, carving out an unprecedented role for the federal government in education.
- He refused to take on the big spending, corrupt, pork-laden ways of the congressional Republicans. Under Mr. Bush's watch, domestic spending exploded. Budget deficits have soared.
- He took the country from a surplus into a huge deficit due primarily to two unfunded wars.
- He began the biggest bailout for Wall Street using government money.
- And with the recent Supreme Court decision in Citizens United by the justices put in office during Bush years, we have the first possibility of fascism in America. Coporate money running our government without restrictions.

If you listen to liberals and their position, Obama is not one of them.
- He is proposing a three year freeze on non-security spending by the gov't.
- He is continuing the war in Afghanistan
- Heatlh care? We don't even know yet what the final result will be but many of its core elements are borrowed directly from conservative ideas on health care reform. If the Stupak amendment survives pretty much intact in the final bill then it will have the impact of profoundly limiting abortions. Its an undeniably regressive portion of a bill that is not clearly that progressive. The net effect of this bill may not be liberal.
-He continues the anti-Constitution warrantless wire-tapping.
-Most liberals consider his stimulus bill too small.

Beck & O'Reilly? Most of their talk is based on opinion many times not facts. If you're a Republican you like them, a Democrat you don't. Political views are very hard to change. But just because one agrees with them doesn't make them right. Facts are facts. We just need to uncover them.

Personally my biggest fault with them is portraying themselves as Christians without any regard to true Christian values as espoused by Jesus. And calling themselves true Americans and calling anyone who disagrees wtih them anti-American. Last time I checked freedom of speech,including one's opinion, is still an American value.

[Unregistered2468]

Why do people insist on re-writing history? First read the dictionary. Bush was not a conservative nor a Republican. Obama is not a socialist or a liberal.

Bush was a big-government nationalist, who has presided over the greatest expansion of the state since the Great Society.
- After 9/11 he created the huge domestic bureaucratic known as the Homeland Security Department.
- He implemented the Medicare prescription drug plan - a massive, new entitlement program.
- He pushed for the No Child Left Behind Act, carving out an unprecedented role for the federal government in education.
- He refused to take on the big spending, corrupt, pork-laden ways of the congressional Republicans. Under Mr. Bush's watch, domestic spending exploded. Budget deficits have soared.
- He took the country from a surplus into a huge deficit due primarily to two unfunded wars.
- He began the biggest bailout for Wall Street using government money.
- And with the recent Supreme Court decision in Citizens United by the justices put in office during Bush years, we have the first possibility of fascism in America. Coporate money running our government without restrictions.

If you listen to liberals and their position, Obama is not one of them.
- He is proposing a three year freeze on non-security spending by the gov't.
- He is continuing the war in Afghanistan
- Heatlh care? We don't even know yet what the final result will be but many of its core elements are borrowed directly from conservative ideas on health care reform. If the Stupak amendment survives pretty much intact in the final bill then it will have the impact of profoundly limiting abortions. Its an undeniably regressive portion of a bill that is not clearly that progressive. The net effect of this bill may not be liberal.
-He continues the anti-Constitution warrantless wire-tapping.
-Most liberals consider his stimulus bill too small.

Beck & O'Reilly? Most of their talk is based on opinion many times not facts. If you're a Republican you like them, a Democrat you don't. Political views are very hard to change. But just because one agrees with them doesn't make them right. Facts are facts. We just need to uncover them.

Personally my biggest fault with them is portraying themselves as Christians without any regard to true Christian values as espoused by Jesus. And calling themselves true Americans and calling anyone who disagrees wtih them anti-American. Last time I checked freedom of speech,including one's opinion, is still an American value.

Misinform people --- go ahead.

Bush spent money like a drunken sailor. No doubt about that. He was a major disappointment to me....and I voted for him.....twice. But let's be fair. The no child left behind was written by, thankfully departed, Teddy (Mark Spitz) Kennedy. Bush wanted school vouchers and Kennedy killed it. Homeland Security? The dems wanted to unionize it and make it even worse. To me, I am 50/50 on the efficacy of this department. As for the supreme court, I would not be allowed to get together with my friends and post an ad, within a certain number of days within an election. Like you stated so well, free speech is free speech. Why can't people and/or corporations buy ads to offer their point of view?

As for this part D nonsense, you are spot on. No argument, it was a joke, a boondoggle that you and I will be paying for.

Please, do not give obama credit for proposing a freeze on spending. Don't act like he is fiscal conservative. He is a hard-charging liberal who loves to spend. He continues the war because even he knows, he HAS to. As for the health care, he was going to twist arms and now, thankfully, that is dead. As for spending, because he isn't spending what insane spenders want, doesn't mean he is not spending a ton of money. Funny you bring up Christ. I bet he'd protest with NOW to continue funding abortions. Thanks, I'll take my chances on the other side of that argument. Lastly, I find it interesting that you didn't bring up his decision to try KSM in NYC. What about not prosecuting the Black Panthers in Philadelphia? Hmm....forgetting a few things?

[Unregistered45456]

Misinform people --- go ahead.

As for the supreme court, I would not be allowed to get together with my friends and post an ad, within a certain number of days within an election. Like you stated so well, free speech is free speech. Why can't people and/or corporations buy ads to offer their point of view?


McCain-Feingold campaign was a bipartisan finance reform created to prevent large corporations and groups from both sides of the fence from impacting an election.

This was not about restricting a group of friends getting together to take out an add although that would be impacted if in fact that were the case which is certainly remote. These are not social groups that get together on weekends but large corporations, PAC’;s and their off shoots that have enough money to impact any election and have their own special interests at heart. If Walmart wants to put a new store in your backyard all they have to do is put their financing behind their candidates.

This did not prevent freedom of speech, but restricted the timing and the way they are financed. This supreme court decision opens up the foodgates and makes it easier for groups on both sides to buy an election.

[Guest1275]

Why do people insist on re-writing history? First read the dictionary. Bush was not a conservative nor a Republican. Obama is not a socialist or a liberal.

Bush was a big-government nationalist, who has presided over the greatest expansion of the state since the Great Society.
- After 9/11 he created the huge domestic bureaucratic known as the Homeland Security Department.
- He implemented the Medicare prescription drug plan - a massive, new entitlement program.
- He pushed for the No Child Left Behind Act, carving out an unprecedented role for the federal government in education.
- He refused to take on the big spending, corrupt, pork-laden ways of the congressional Republicans. Under Mr. Bush's watch, domestic spending exploded. Budget deficits have soared.
- He took the country from a surplus into a huge deficit due primarily to two unfunded wars.
- He began the biggest bailout for Wall Street using government money.
- And with the recent Supreme Court decision in Citizens United by the justices put in office during Bush years, we have the first possibility of fascism in America. Coporate money running our government without restrictions.

If you listen to liberals and their position, Obama is not one of them.
- He is proposing a three year freeze on non-security spending by the gov't.
- He is continuing the war in Afghanistan
- Heatlh care? We don't even know yet what the final result will be but many of its core elements are borrowed directly from conservative ideas on health care reform. If the Stupak amendment survives pretty much intact in the final bill then it will have the impact of profoundly limiting abortions. Its an undeniably regressive portion of a bill that is not clearly that progressive. The net effect of this bill may not be liberal.
-He continues the anti-Constitution warrantless wire-tapping.
-Most liberals consider his stimulus bill too small.

Beck & O'Reilly? Most of their talk is based on opinion many times not facts. If you're a Republican you like them, a Democrat you don't. Political views are very hard to change. But just because one agrees with them doesn't make them right. Facts are facts. We just need to uncover them.

Personally my biggest fault with them is portraying themselves as Christians without any regard to true Christian values as espoused by Jesus. And calling themselves true Americans and calling anyone who disagrees wtih them anti-American. Last time I checked freedom of speech,including one's opinion, is still an American value.


Finally! Intelligent life discovered on a news forum. Thank you sir! At least YOU can see things for what they truly are.

[Cant stand hypocrites]

Here we go again with the broken record about Bush. It's going to rain tomorrow so it's got to be Bush's fault. Been there, done that. It's going to be a painful 3 years listening to you, your ilk and your village idiot president chant this mantra over and over and over day after day after day.

Do me a favor - for those of you who hate Obama so much you cant think straight or reason, the original writer is saying that BOTH parties are problematic. And - yes, Bush and Cheney were not only incompetent, but belong in jail for what they did. Obama has disappointed, but do NOT dare justify anything Bush and his cronies did, they helped put us here. You know it as well as everyone.

Time for a third party. In DC, the Dems are spineless sellouts, Republicans are morally corrupt, most in both parties are basically crooks. Enough, wake up!!!!!

[You're a Brainfart]

Finally! Intelligent life discovered on a news forum. Thank you sir! At least YOU can see things for what they truly are.

More babble from the left for finally realizing that their village idiot of a president is an empty suit that happens to speak white as opposed to ghettophonic. WOW! A little less then half the country knew that before the village idiot was sworn into office. It's always the mantra for the left to blame Bush for everything and anything that may pop up at any given moment. As for the comment on Christians well that just goes to show that there's a hater out there always ready to pounce on anything and everything that has to do with Christ. Maybe you haven't heard but the days of bashing Christians of any denomination has come to an end, that's so 2009.

[Liberals=Idiots]

Do me a favor - for those of you who hate Obama so much you cant think straight or reason, the original writer is saying that BOTH parties are problematic. And - yes, Bush and Cheney were not only incompetent, but belong in jail for what they did. Obama has disappointed, but do NOT dare justify anything Bush and his cronies did, they helped put us here. You know it as well as everyone.

Time for a third party. In DC, the Dems are spineless sellouts, Republicans are morally corrupt, most in both parties are basically crooks. Enough, wake up!!!!!

Another lover of the village idiot president. Enjoy your fearful leader and his spineless policies while the nation spirals deeper and deeper into a financial mess not seen since 1930. So Zippy have a nice day : ) or rather 3 years of days.

[Guest1275]

More babble from the left for finally realizing that their village idiot of a president is an empty suit that happens to speak white as opposed to ghettophonic. WOW! A little less then half the country knew that before the village idiot was sworn into office. It's always the mantra for the left to blame Bush for everything and anything that may pop up at any given moment. As for the comment on Christians well that just goes to show that there's a hater out there always ready to pounce on anything and everything that has to do with Christ. Maybe you haven't heard but the days of bashing Christians of any denomination has come to an end, that's so 2009.


Well, there you have it, folks. Liberals are "idiots" but this racist chin drooler has all the answers.

We SHOULD blame Bush for everything- HE WAS RESPONSIBLE- but of course, that's always for the other fellow, not you.

It must drive you nuts to see a Black man with a Harvard degree! As far as Christian bashing, read your Thomas Jefferson- he was the mother of all "Christian bashers."

Like I say- Live with it. Or better still, choke on it. LOL!

[Guest1275]

Another lover of the village idiot president. Enjoy your fearful leader and his spineless policies while the nation spirals deeper and deeper into a financial mess not seen since 1930. So Zippy have a nice day : ) or rather 3 years of days.

Obama didn't tank the economy- BUSH did. Deal with it. The economy is getting better, not "spiraling" downwards as it did under Bush/Paulson.

What a fool!

[Unregistered2468]

Obama didn't tank the economy- BUSH did. Deal with it. The economy is getting better, not "spiraling" downwards as it did under Bush/Paulson.

What a fool!

No, you are the fool. This government cannot sustain its unfunded mandates. We are over 10,000,000,000 in debt and, with the social security, medicare/aid safes empty, conservative estimates are that we are over 30 trillion in debt. This is not, entirely his fault. We have been borrowing money for years, under both republican and democrat administrations. Problem is that this guy wants to add 1.5 trillion each year, going forward, plus interest. God help those who think that you can spend your way out of a recession. Never happened before. The definition of insanity is to try the same thing over and over, and expect a different result.

[Wrong......]

God help those who think that you can spend your way out of a recession. Never happened before.

Sure it did. Look up FDR's New Deal.

[KKK???]

More babble from the left for finally realizing that their village idiot of a president is an empty suit that happens to speak white as opposed to ghettophonic. .

Pretty racist statement.

[Black Panther???]

Pretty racist statement.

Member of the Black Panther movement no doubt. Using the r word doesn't work anylonger considering the village idiot of a president doesn't play that game or so he says but we wouldn't put it past his administration

[Unregistered2468]

Sure it did. Look up FDR's New Deal.

The war got the economy out of recession. Don't kid yourself. The fact is, that the crash was followed by another one, right after a comparatively huge spending package. The only thing that got us out of that depression was the war.

[$$$$$$$$....]

The war got the economy out of recession. Don't kid yourself. The fact is, that the crash was followed by another one, right after a comparatively huge spending package. The only thing that got us out of that depression was the war.

It was the war? It was the New Deal? Either way it was spending that ended the depression. So saying throwing money at it can't help is an uninformed statement

[KKK?????]

Member of the Black Panther movement no doubt.

Another racist statement. Assuming one is a black panther because they call you on making a racist comment proves you are a racist. If you think Obama is a bad president, fine. But why does his race make any difference?

[Unregistered2468]

It was the war? It was the New Deal? Either way it was spending that ended the depression. So saying throwing money at it can't help is an uninformed statement

No, yours is a misleading statement. The spending during the war employed everyone. Here, there are a select few cronies who are being handed billions of dollars. So the spending is not getting down to those who can use it.

[Unregistered2468]

Further, you failed to acknowledge the double dip depression that was caused by the new deal. More than a few scholars indicate that the new deal prolonged the depression. The best thing that can happen is to more money in people's pockets, by way of lower taxes, and get out of the way. Three times it has been proven that supply-side economics works.

[dfg.k$%^&]

[QUOTE=Unregistered2468;345519]. The spending during the war employed everyone. QUOTE]

Exactly. The spending got everyone employed. Ended the depression

[11756]

Can someone please post with facts to back it up - which major problems we are facing right now that was not created during Bush's administration?

Regarding 'supply side economics'. As shown under GW Bush, tax cuts without cuts in spending only makes for lost revenue which eventually will have to be made up by tax increases. Under Reagan, the response of private savings and labor supply to the Reagan tax cuts was minimal: the labor supply did not increase and the effect on private savings was swamped by the reduction in public savings. Since labor supply and savings increased only marginally, government revenues did not increase and the budget deficit became very large.

Basically the idea is tax cuts will make people spend. But when GW Bush gave out checks to everyone, most people used it to pay for items already purchased on credit cards.

Until most Americans learn to live within their means, we will keep having economic problems flare up in the future.

[Guest1275]

The war got the economy out of recession. Don't kid yourself. The fact is, that the crash was followed by another one, right after a comparatively huge spending package. The only thing that got us out of that depression was the war.

The mistake the FDR administration made in 1937 was that fearing huge deficits after the New Deal and the economy having recovered somewhat, they simultaneously cut stimulus and raised taxes (substantially.)

Bernanke is well aware of this, and Paul Krugman has pointed this piece of history out several times in his columns. While this situation is a good deal more complex than the '30s, they will probably not make the same mistake.

Having said that, the subsequent war did get us out of the depression, and the fact that the rest of the industrialized world was laid waste didn't hurt either.

[Guest1275]

Further, you failed to acknowledge the double dip depression that was caused by the new deal. More than a few scholars indicate that the new deal prolonged the depression. The best thing that can happen is to more money in people's pockets, by way of lower taxes, and get out of the way. Three times it has been proven that supply-side economics works.

Actually, this school of economic thought is in disrepute. Bush got his tax cuts, and just blew a hole through the budget, while most people lost a good deal of spending power and not many jobs were created. Bush literally ran a "pump and dump" economy.

You cannot cut taxes every time there is a slowdown in the business cycle- you can't cut forever.

[Unregistered2468]

Actually, this school of economic thought is in disrepute. Bush got his tax cuts, and just blew a hole through the budget, while most people lost a good deal of spending power and not many jobs were created. Bush literally ran a "pump and dump" economy.

You cannot cut taxes every time there is a slowdown in the business cycle- you can't cut forever.

...and you cannot tax and spend your way to prosperity......

[downdown]

My federal income tax went DOWN last year. I think the vast majority of people's did

[Guest1275]

...and you cannot tax and spend your way to prosperity......


Another empty slogan.

The answer to that is "you most certainly can" and in this depression, you certainly MUST.

There was a 40 trillion dollar contraction in credit after Lehman went belly up and the only way to prevent social havoc and a genuine catastrophe was by massive government intervention.

What we need to do, in my opinion, is roll back to the tax structure we had before Bush on marginal rates, and impose a higher tax bracket for those making over $250K.

Unfortunately, thanks to cable news and talk radio, there are a lot of big mouths out there who think they can tackle complex economic issues for their audiences. This is what creates the angry mobs you see at "tea parties." It has a strange echo of 1930's Germany. This is a very dangerous time for our country.

[11756]

...and you cannot tax and spend your way to prosperity......

There is no historical evidence that tax cuts spur economic growth. The highest period of growth in U.S. history (1933-1973) also saw its highest tax rates on the rich: 70 to 91 percent. During this period, the general tax rate climbed as well, but it reached a plateau in 1969, and growth slowed down five years later.

During both world wars, taxes soared to record heights. And the economies that resulted produced high growth for decades. World War I was followed by the Roaring 20s; World War II was followed by the boom times of the 50s and 60s.

The economy slowed down after 1973 and taxes started falling for the rich in 1978 (with a capital gains tax cut). Reagan accelerated these cuts The top income tax rate was slashed from 70 to 28 percent. And growth since 1973 has remained stuck, dropping from 3.4 to 2.5 percent a year.

Many famous economists still don't know the real reason for economic growth. Most people who claim that tax rates affect growth are radio-talk show hosts, politicians and other types of alking-heads with easy solutions to complex problems.

[Unregistered2468]

There is no historical evidence that tax cuts spur economic growth. The highest period of growth in U.S. history (1933-1973) also saw its highest tax rates on the rich: 70 to 91 percent. During this period, the general tax rate climbed as well, but it reached a plateau in 1969, and growth slowed down five years later.

During both world wars, taxes soared to record heights. And the economies that resulted produced high growth for decades. World War I was followed by the Roaring 20s; World War II was followed by the boom times of the 50s and 60s.

The economy slowed down after 1973 and taxes started falling for the rich in 1978 (with a capital gains tax cut). Reagan accelerated these cuts The top income tax rate was slashed from 70 to 28 percent. And growth since 1973 has remained stuck, dropping from 3.4 to 2.5 percent a year.

Many famous economists still don't know the real reason for economic growth. Most people who claim that tax rates affect growth are radio-talk show hosts, politicians and other types of alking-heads with easy solutions to complex problems.

Please --- The largest period of growth was post Reagan tax cuts, which Clinton got the credit for and, we are in uncharted territory when you look at our debt and unfunded mandates. You have your philosophy and I have mine. That is why this nation is split down the middle. How you can ignore our debt, which is ever growing, is beyond me. To the others who say you can tax and spend your way to prosperity........yeah sure, take a look at oh, the U.K. and France. The definition of insanity.......

[segfhb]

Please --- The largest period of growth was post Reagan tax cuts, which Clinton got the credit for and, we are in uncharted territory when you look at our debt and unfunded mandates. You have your philosophy and I have mine. That is why this nation is split down the middle. How you can ignore our debt, which is ever growing, is beyond me. To the others who say you can tax and spend your way to prosperity........yeah sure, take a look at oh, the U.K. and France. The definition of insanity.......

The deficit was HUGE under Reagan. Clinton cut it down. Bush made it way bigger then Reagan did.

[Unregistered2468]

The deficit was HUGE under Reagan. Clinton cut it down. Bush made it way bigger then Reagan did.

Read the contract with America..... Newt rammed that down Clinton's throat and yes Bush 43 was anything but a conservative. He was a tax and spend republican, which is worse than a tax and spend democrat because you expect the latter to do so.

[Unregistered2468]

And....Reagan ran up the deficit by cutting spending but cutting taxes MORE. The caused us to borrow until the tax revenues started the catch up. Here we have massive borrowing, taxing and massive spending.

[Unregistered3232323]

Please --- The largest period of growth was post Reagan tax cuts, which Clinton got the credit for and, we are in uncharted territory when you look at our debt and unfunded mandates. You have your philosophy and I have mine. That is why this nation is split down the middle. How you can ignore our debt, which is ever growing, is beyond me. To the others who say you can tax and spend your way to prosperity........yeah sure, take a look at oh, the U.K. and France. The definition of insanity.......

Did you forget " read my lips , no new taxes". Reagan ran the Country into an economic hole. You really thing his brilliance ' kicked in "10 years after he made his economic footprint? Ill give Reagan his forieghn policy which has far surpased anyone since but even Reagans chief ecnomic people who came up with trickle down have all since said they where dead wrong. Did you get that, those who invented trickle down have admitted it didnt work, that the wealth didnt trickle down. I shoudl think the very guys who came up with it should know more about it then you.

[Guest1275]

Please --- The largest period of growth was post Reagan tax cuts, which Clinton got the credit for and, we are in uncharted territory when you look at our debt and unfunded mandates. You have your philosophy and I have mine. That is why this nation is split down the middle. How you can ignore our debt, which is ever growing, is beyond me. To the others who say you can tax and spend your way to prosperity........yeah sure, take a look at oh, the U.K. and France. The definition of insanity.......

It is a symbol of how far our political conversation has degenerated when you can claim Clinton got the benefits of the Reagan tax "cuts," and then rant about deficits, and of course, France.

France isn't looking too bad these days compared to us, as they have lower unemployment and a far healthier citizenry. Our quality of life is getting worse every year while they spend the money to maintain theirs. They're not stupid people- they vote to make their country that way.

Reagan was the biggest effing deficit whore in U.S. history when he was in office and that is a fact. Like Bush, he ran a "pump and dump" economy, and were it not for Paul Volcker, who raised rates to 18% early on in his first term to bleed the inflation out of the economy, and then lowered them, the economy then started to climb out of it's hole, which is what tends to happen with looser monetary policy. With the passage of time, I believe tax policy was far less important than monetary policy.

Republicans claim Bush "had" to cut taxes because of the recession that was taking place when he took office. Now people realize he would have been better off leaving well enough alone. He created huge deficits and did nothing to create genuine growth. The fact is the economy NEEDS slowdowns from time to time, and that is just the nature of the business cycle. You can't cut taxes as a response to every slowdown.

Lastly, for us Long Islanders, these tax cuts were illusory. If you are taxed at a 50% rate, you get to write off your property taxes at that rate. Lower the marginal rate to 28% as Reagan did in 1986, and you can only write off 28% of your property tax. The second "cut" also blew a hole through the real estate markets, and gave us the 1987 crash.

Why people think the U.S. tax code can be boiled down to the existing marginal tax rate just shows how they cannot handle the complex issues that face them, or discuss them with any sense of reality.

[Guest1275]

The deficit was HUGE under Reagan. Clinton cut it down. Bush made it way bigger then Reagan did.


Clinton gave us a surplus, which I never thought I would see in my lifetime.

[Guest1275]

Many famous economists still don't know the real reason for economic growth. Most people who claim that tax rates affect growth are radio-talk show hosts, politicians and other types of alking-heads with easy solutions to complex problems.


There are so many dynamics working on the economy at any given moment, it is preposterous to focus on tax policy- as if a 3% swing in marginal rates did anything compared to the effect of a gallon of gas costing over $4.

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It is a symbol of how far our political conversation has degenerated when you can claim Clinton got the benefits of the Reagan tax "cuts," and then rant about deficits, and of course, France.

France isn't looking too bad these days compared to us, as they have lower unemployment and a far healthier citizenry. Our quality of life is getting worse every year while they spend the money to maintain theirs. They're not stupid people- they vote to make their country that way.

Reagan was the biggest effing deficit whore in U.S. history when he was in office and that is a fact. Like Bush, he ran a "pump and dump" economy, and were it not for Paul Volcker, who raised rates to 18% early on in his first term to bleed the inflation out of the economy, and then lowered them, the economy then started to climb out of it's hole, which is what tends to happen with looser monetary policy. With the passage of time, I believe tax policy was far less important than monetary policy.

Republicans claim Bush "had" to cut taxes because of the recession that was taking place when he took office. Now people realize he would have been better off leaving well enough alone. He created huge deficits and did nothing to create genuine growth. The fact is the economy NEEDS slowdowns from time to time, and that is just the nature of the business cycle. You can't cut taxes as a response to every slowdown.

Lastly, for us Long Islanders, these tax cuts were illusory. If you are taxed at a 50% rate, you get to write off your property taxes at that rate. Lower the marginal rate to 28% as Reagan did in 1986, and you can only write off 28% of your property tax. The second "cut" also blew a hole through the real estate markets, and gave us the 1987 crash.

Why people think the U.S. tax code can be boiled down to the existing marginal tax rate just shows how they cannot handle the complex issues that face them, or discuss them with any sense of reality.

Clinton got a blow job, but said "he never had sex with that woman "

[Guest1275]

Clinton got a blow job, but said "he never had sex with that woman "


I guess that is the extent of the depth of your political knowledge.