VA Police

[Credit Union Bank User]

Does anyone know who these federal cops are at the Northport VA Property. I saw them arresting a guy at a checkpoint the other day. Who are they to set up a checkpoint? Is there such a thing as federal law enforcement? I don't think so. I have been a security officer for 9 years and I would have known about this? Does anyone have any idea who they are?

PS: They even had guns!!!!!

[R U Stupid or What?]

O.k., so you're an EDP or something. So I won't call you names, but, that is probably the dumbest thing I have ever heard. Of course there are federal police officers, and here's a surprise, they carry guns. just to go a little further, they also make arrests. YOU, the SECURITY GUARD (or security officer as you posted) do not have authority. That may be why you don't know anything about them. As far as a checkpoint, the VA is exclusive federal jurisdiction. You know, like an Army base. They have a right to protect the veterans of our country. Take the police test, maybe you can contribute someday. Oh wait, there's a psychological exam. Stick to your guard job.

[PO415]

As a fellow law enforcement officer, I love it when authority is questioned. It gives me the opportunity to "educate" the police bashing public. It amazes me how there are people walking around out there that believe that because they never heard of it, it should not exist, or they think that it is not legit. The VA police are federal law enforcement. They are exactly like the Suffolk County Police or the NYPD or a small village like Lattingtown, (covered by Old Brookville PD) or Northport. Meaning simply this, you speed on federal property, they can write you a traffic summons, they carry firearms...like POLICE OFFICERS DO...they run investigations into criminal activity, they have detectives, special operation bureaus and the like. It just so happens that their uniform patch says something different. It means nothing in terms of authority. So to the security guard who has 8 hours of training as required by NYS as opposed to the more than 1000 hours most police officers have...which builds as your career goes on...leave the enforcement to the professionals. I am sure you would be the first to call the police department if you needed them. So just say thank you for what they do and move on...

[NYC 75 Crime]

Well said. A cop is a cop. And enough is enough on this board.

[staytuned]

Next week Credit Union Bank User will question the legitamacy of the Northport VA Fire Department!

Does anyone know who these federal cops are at the Northport VA Property. I saw them arresting a guy at a checkpoint the other day. Who are they to set up a checkpoint? Is there such a thing as federal law enforcement? I don't think so. I have been a security officer for 9 years and I would have known about this? Does anyone have any idea who they are?

PS: They even had guns!!!!!

Hopefully you work a unarmed gig?

[Nycpo1]

DUUUUHHHHHHH!!!!!!????????? :P

[Hairbag]

Credit Union Bank User Babbled:


Does anyone know who these federal cops are at the Northport VA Property. I saw them arresting a guy at a checkpoint the other day. Who are they to set up a checkpoint? Is there such a thing as federal law enforcement? I don't think so. I have been a security officer for 9 years and I would have known about this? Does anyone have any idea who they are? PS: They even had guns!!!!!


What an EDP square-badge!! The public should be thankful you don't have any peace officer status

[Credit Union Bank User]

There is no such thing as Federal Police!!!! You all are stupid!!!! They are called police officers, but arrow security can call their officers police too. The only REAL police are the sheriffs. Not VA police or Suffolk Police. State troopers aren't police either. They are troopers who can't arrest you. Only give ticketson the parkway. Next time they try to stop you, just pull off the parway and you're safe.

[scary!]

There is no such thing as Federal Police!!!! You all are stupid!!!! They are called police officers, but arrow security can call their officers police too. The only REAL police are the sheriffs. Not VA police or Suffolk Police. State troopers aren't police either. They are troopers who can't arrest you. Only give ticketson the parkway. Next time they try to stop you, just pull off the parway and you're safe.

you do work an unarmed gig, right?

[DepSheriff]

The only REAL police are the sheriffs. Not VA police or Suffolk Police. State troopers aren't police either. [quote]

There is only one Sheriff in Suffolk County, there are many Deputy Sheriff's
If you think that State Troopers aren't Police Officers then you are nuts

[blueknight4d29]

Obviously deputy dog could never pass a police test and has to settle for being a peace officer for the rest of his life- 1 step up from a square badge! HA!

[to the good people of ny]

There is no such thing as Federal Police!!!! You all are stupid!!!! They are called police officers, but arrow security can call their officers police too. The only REAL police are the sheriffs. Not VA police or Suffolk Police. State troopers aren't police either. They are troopers who can't arrest you. Only give ticketson the parkway. Next time they try to stop you, just pull off the parway and you're safe
If you have nothing better to do with your day, and have around 1,000 to burn you can listen to numbnuts, otherwise just ignore him. He is so far off....its got to be a joke.
And for you fellow squarebadges, dont call yourself police, ever its a crime see federal law 106-547 impersonating with a badge, among others.
Please tell me you are unarmed credit loser?

There is no such thing as Federal Police!!!! You all are stupid!!!! They are called police officers, but arrow security can call their officers police too. The only REAL police are the sheriffs. Not VA police or Suffolk Police. State troopers aren't police either. They are troopers who can't arrest you. Only give ticketson the parkway. Next time they try to stop you, just pull off the parway and you're safe.
If the ''parway'' is in NYS, the trooper will just follow you and pull you over, and write you some more.
If the ''parway'' is in a adjacent (bordering) the trooper has the right to follow you and pull you over.
As stated, only NYS licensed MOS can call themselves cops, if a security guard, or if you are feeling ballsy, a town constable, ala Port Jefferson, Old Field,Belle Terre, attempt to stop you, they are committing a crime. My guess is if you listen to rent-a-body, you'll end up in a bit of trouble.
Listen credit union freek, junkyard willy is calling you, now vamos ala playa

[Credit Union Bank User]

If you're a cop, then you know that licensed sucurity officers, such a mall guards, can enforce the laws with more expertise, cause we are walking the beat everyday. then you guys show up and take our arrests. We need a change in policy. No more "police officers" Just Security forces. And for the VA, just use Arrow Police. That would save money for the taxpayers. THE MALL SECURITY FORCE IS THE BEST!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[dorian gray]

hey mall mouse, the only thing you come across on your " beat" is some brat with a runny nose. Your "beat" is not the same as the cops or correction officers.SO please do us all a favor, and stop smoking pot behind your one way glass. P.S. the high school girls dont think your cool..

[Credit Union Bank User]

To all of you OTHER Police Officers, you wish you had the experience that the Mall Police Force has. We are the truE meaning of POLICE. :shock:

SMITHAVEN MALL SECURITY IS #1!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

To all of you OTHER Police Officers, you wish you had the experience that the Mall Police Force has. We are the truE meaning of POLICE.

SMITHAVEN MALL SECURITY IS #1!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Yup was there last weekend, those unis and those 10 gallon hats, what a combo. They even had radios on their belts, maybe one had a scorpion, theres always one buffer right?
The 12 year olds almost listened to them, you guys can have my back anytime, when I'm stopping in for my meal. Watch my car for me? Hey they do the right thing at the food court for you?

[SMITHAVENMALLSHERRIFF]

Hey they do the right thing at the food court for you?
no, and the girls dont give us the time of day :(

[SC Resident]

Hey, what about these town enforcement cops.. In Patchogue, Port Jefferson, etc.

Do they have the same Police officer status? Can they pull you over?

the pj constables? they are town security.
Patchogue what? not familiar

[whocaresandwhy]

Arrow Police????.....please they cant even pay their employees without bouncing a paycheck. Hey slick why don't you flush out your headgear and try working for a real company that actually pays attention to what their guards do. I am a supervisor and an armed guard and in all my time of doing this I have never ever heard such lunacy as calling a security guard as a replacement for the police. Hey Brain dead what were you taught in the basic 8hr class....(I would know I teach it)....your job is to detect, deter and report thats it any further interventiion on your part and enjoy the criminal and civil repercussions of your actions.
As far as IPC (the smithhaven mall security) wasn't IPC employees that were convicted of burglary of six stores??? (think before you answer because the truth is very easy to find)
Well I need to return to work enjoy your babysitting of the prosta-tots at the mall and i'm sure we will see a shining example of the security industry such as yourself on the six o'clock news.

Enjoy the court time moron.

Hey, what about these town enforcement cops.. In Patchogue, Port Jefferson, etc.

Do they have the same Police officer status? Can they pull you over?

The village of Patchogue incorporates the New York State VTL into their Village Code. They don't have the training or status to make car stops, but that doesn't seem to stop them. I am waiting for the day that one of these morons pulls me over and tells me he is a Police Officer from Patchogue Village as they have done to countless unsuspecting ininformed civilians. Not only will I arrest said moron for impersonating a Police Officer with his own cuffs, I'm going to sue the Village for civil rights violations and have the village re-named in my honor.

Thats uninformed sorry for the typo

[Credit Union Bank User]

What does that have to do with VA Police? I want to know how to disbar them. I want security with less authority to tke over their jobs. I will admit, I am the one that these guys arrested. I just feel that there are too many cops out there. If there was security, I would still have a semi-clean record. But now I have to answer to a federal court for a stupid (minor) ALLEGED drug possession charge. I will get it dismissed and then sue everyone I can. DOes anyone know if 1 carck rock is even a real charge?

[Finally The Truth]

There may be something wrong with your brain. See a doctor. By the way, ANY amount of crack is ILLEGAL, you dumb dumb!

The village of Patchogue incorporates the New York State VTL into their Village Code. They don't have the training or status to make car stops, but that doesn't seem to stop them. I am waiting for the day that one of these morons pulls me over and tells me he is a Police Officer from Patchogue Village as they have done to countless unsuspecting ininformed civilians. Not only will I arrest said moron for impersonating a Police Officer with his own cuffs, I'm going to sue the Village for civil rights violations and have the village re-named in my honor
I'll do you one better, I had a ''off-duty'' village officer(security) pull over a car for Dwi last week, was going to scream at him, until I ran the plate, and found it was a package,ha.

old brookville does not cover lattingtown, so please keep educating us.

I'll do you one better, I had a ''off-duty'' village officer(security) pull over a car for Dwi last week, was going to scream at him, until I ran the plate, and found it was a package,ha.



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old brookville does not cover lattingtown, so please keep educating us



Neg, it was a Suffolk North shore village,Old field or Poquott, Maybe Bell terre

[smd310th]

Sorry guy, the VA hospitals are Federal property, and as such the VA Police are the designated law enforcement agency. Same as the MP's or Dept. of Defense Police are responsible for U.S. Army bases. Their area of responsibility (or geographical area of employment) includes the property of the hospital as well as adjoining access roads. So although you may not be on the hospital grounds themselves you are still in their jurisdiction if you are on the county road that leads into the hospital grounds. As an aside, when I was working as a reserve MP assigned to post security at Fort Totten (in Queens)after 9/11 we were permitted not only to stop cars on the city street leading to the post but also in the city park adjoining the post. We wound up making a number of collars for drug possession which were turned over to the NYPD. (Of which myself and a number of other MP's in the unit I was assigned to are employees of). So although you might not have been on the hospital property, you were caught legally. Sorry. Put down the pipe and step away from the computer.......

Sorry guy, the VA hospitals are Federal property, and as such the VA Police are the designated law enforcement agency. Same as the MP's or Dept. of Defense Police are responsible for U.S. Army bases. Their area of responsibility (or geographical area of employment) includes the property of the hospital as well as adjoining access roads. So although you may not be on the hospital grounds themselves you are still in their jurisdiction if you are on the county road that leads into the hospital grounds. As an aside, when I was working as a reserve MP assigned to post security at Fort Totten (in Queens)after 9/11 we were permitted not only to stop cars on the city street leading to the post but also in the city park adjoining the post. We wound up making a number of collars for drug possession which were turned over to the NYPD. (Of which myself and a number of other MP's in the unit I was assigned to are employees of). So although you might not have been on the hospital property, you were caught legally. Sorry. Put down the pipe and step away from the computer
Guy relax this guy is just being stoopid on purpose, at least i think he is. Hes definitely stoopid.

[Veteran USMC (Iraq)]

We appreciate our own police. Speak for yourself, and use a bank somewhere else. We went to battle for this country. Let us retire in peace and with the utmost police protection from the local gang members who should not even be in this country and for whom I personally suffered a physical loss. To you, MR CREDIT UNION BANK GUY.. I may despise what you say...but I am willing to fight to the death to protect your right to say it!

[nydhb]

I'm not a village idiot, but an NYPD hairbad, but; "The village of Patchogue incorporates the New York State VTL into their Village Code. They don't have the training or status to make car stops, but that doesn't seem to stop them. I am waiting for the day that one of these morons pulls me over and tells me he is a Police Officer from Patchogue Village as they have done to countless unsuspecting ininformed civilians. Not only will I arrest said moron for impersonating a Police Officer with his own cuffs, I'm going to sue the Village for civil rights violations and have the village re-named in my honor"

As for Status, as per CPL sec. § 2.10 Persons designated as peace officers.
Notwithstanding the provisions of any general, special or local law or charter to the contrary, only the following persons shall have the powers of, and shall be peace officers:
1. Constables or police constables of a town or village, provided such designation is not inconsistent with local law.

An as far as the permission or authority to effect car stops, or issue moving summonses, see CPL sec. § 2.20 Powers of peace officers.
1. The persons designated in section 2.10 of this article shall have the following powers:
(a) The power to make warrantless arrests [read car stop, which is in fact an arrest] pursuant to section 140.25 of this chapter.

and (e) The power to issue uniform appearance tickets pursuant to article twenty-seven of the parks, recreation and historic preservation law and to issue simplified traffic informations pursuant to section 100.25 of this chapter and section two hundred seven of the vehicle and traffic law whenever acting pursuant to their special duties.

and (i) Any other power which a particular peace officer is otherwise authorized to exercise by any general, special or local law or charter whenever acting pursuant to his special duties, provided such power is not inconsistent with the provisions of the penal law or this chapter.

and CPL. sec. § 2.20 sub 2. For the purposes of this section a peace officer acts