Ex-BOE Employees Testify Under Oath about Illegal Orders

[Good Question 2]

whats missing from this thread? The first post that states that two former Dem BOE employees testified at a court proceeding today and stated they were fired for refusing to do political work, or ask others to do political work while on the job at the BOE. No names were mentioned, and no facts were misrepresented.

It seems that when the truth is written about the BOE on this site it must stike a nerve and they somehow have the posts removed. What makes this post most distrubing is they know they have been caught. They lied about a situation. They repeated it over and over.

And then they supplied the unemployment office with a lame alternative set of facts that was taylored to comply with the law. Except they were afraid to testify under oath about the facts and refused to show up. Fearing that their are a number of witnesses that will testify against them and subject them to prejury charges.

They laywer said they were unavaiable. Anyone at the BOE can tell you that most of them were at work yesterday, which is about a mile away from were they were ordered to appear.

[That was pure stupidity]

Once again, the county attorney's office strikes. The managment team that decided to fight the unemployment charges again showed a complete lack of judgment. For $400 a week, they fight it at the risk of opening up the can of worms they did, sworn testimony, recorded and completely without defense. They didn't fight the unemployment for everyone - because they knew they'd lose - they knew the firings were unwarranted and the people fired had alot to say - but yet they went ahead to fight this fight. This office is single handedly bringing down the county executive. That's guys! :lol:

If Jen gets dumped, it will be obvious to everyone that it's only because her husband is an important player in North Hempstead.
She is always smiling and everytime I have requested something of her, I've recieved it right away.
Laeve these kids alone.

no its not

Once again, the county attorney's office strikes. The managment team that decided to fight the unemployment charges again showed a complete lack of judgment. For $400 a week, they fight it at the risk of opening up the can of worms they did, sworn testimony, recorded and completely without defense. They didn't fight the unemployment for everyone - because they knew they'd lose - they knew the firings were unwarranted and the people fired had alot to say - but yet they went ahead to fight this fight. This office is single handedly bringing down the county executive. That's guys! :lol:

Its not the CA's office fault that the BOE is afraid to go on the record in this matter. If they did they would open themselves up to purgury charges. They can't get the whole BOE to lie for them. Although I love to see them try. Its always the cover-up that gets you.

They forced an employee to resign under false pretenses. And at least one of them has admitted it. The story they peddled at the time is substancally different from what they told the unemployment board. Thats why they did not and can not go on the record. They would lose and expose what really happened.

Someone high up does not want that to happen.

Why????????????

[DA Office]

Once again, the county attorney's office strikes. The managment team that decided to fight the unemployment charges again showed a complete lack of judgment. For $400 a week, they fight it at the risk of opening up the can of worms they did, sworn testimony, recorded and completely without defense. They didn't fight the unemployment for everyone - because they knew they'd lose - they knew the firings were unwarranted and the people fired had alot to say - but yet they went ahead to fight this fight. This office is single handedly bringing down the county executive. That's guys! :lol:

Its not the CA's office fault that the BOE is afraid to go on the record in this matter. If they did they would open themselves up to purgury charges. They can't get the whole BOE to lie for them. Although I love to see them try. Its always the cover-up that gets you.

They forced an employee to resign under false pretenses. And at least one of them has admitted it. The story they peddled at the time is substancally different from what they told the unemployment board. Thats why they did not and can not go on the record. They would lose and expose what really happened.

Someone high up does not want that to happen.

Why????????????

Lets wait and see.

[You missed the point]

The ca shouldn't have fought the unemployment because they forced their hand. BOE employees won't be witness because they won't lie for the ca. The truth is the truth. And now it's on record in sworn testimony which no longer can be denied. And yet another scandal is brought forward thanks to the ca office's mishandling of another sensitive issue.

[Forced resignation]

A forced resignation is the same as being fired as far as unemployment is concerned - especially in a political job - you can collect unemployment as long as the unemployment board does not find you did anything wrong. You can quit your job if your boss is forcing you to do things that are inappropriate - illegal here - and still collect unemployment. You can not collect unemployment if you are found to have been fired "for cause". Obviously, then the attorney's office shouldn't have pressed the issue because there was no "cause" here. But being the idiots they are, they did try and fight it - and lost - and now they hurt the county again. They still don't understand who they represent yet. They never will get it either.

[first post]

Dem administration for forcing employees to do "illegal work."

Before hearing, the county attorney was lectured by the judge after he said his witnesses were "unavailable." Then he left the hearing allowing the hearing to proceed with no county representation.

For an hour the Judge heard how the role of some employees jobs at the BOE went from govermental to political under threats of firing. The deputy testified that she was fired herself for resisting the attempts to take people off of BOE duties to do political work while on county time.

The former employee testified that he left work because he was sick of being part of the curruption. He testified in detail on how campaigns are run out of the BOE and the bosses profit from the work done by BOE employees and supplies.

Why did the bosses refuse to show at a hearing they were summoned to. I would have loved to hear the explainations. If the DA were smart he would order the Transcripts ASAP.

It's no longer just rumors. The accusations have now been made under sworn testimony. Too bad the bosses were to afraid to repond themselves under oath.

They prefer just to spead their lies via the rumor mill.

[Scripps]

Does anyone know where/when this hearing was held? Were transcripts of testimony recorded? Who was the hearing fficer?

[Isn't it obvious? Truth!]

Isn't it obvious why there were no witnesses? BECAUSE WHAT THE EMPLOYEE TESTIFIED TO WAS THE TRUTH! Nobody from the BOE COULD testify without perjuring themselves so that's why the case went undefended. The employee who got fired was telling the truth. If the County Attorney just let the employee collect the unemployment -NOTHING would have come out. But the office is just too plain stupid. Instead of doing that - THEY FOUGHT IT! They fought it when they had no witnesses - no truth and no defense. Sound familar? If there was no confidentiality statement and no witness tampering - Peter Sylver wouldn't have been as big as it was. If they didn't go after Campanelli and the other outside contractors who refused to submit to their bribery and extortion - there wouldn't have been those scandals. IDA wouldn't have been revealed. And now, thanks to Goodman-Botwin-Feinman-Reinharz and all the Bureau Chiefs and Deputy Bureau Chiefs under their reign - there is yet another nice scandal which the Long Island Press and the NY Times will be jumping all over. And even Newsday's Levy & Klurfeld won't be able to negate sworn testimony.

Does anyone know where/when this hearing was held? Were transcripts of testimony recorded? Who was the hearing fficer?

Hearings were held in Garden City. Less than a mile from the BOE office, yet the CA said they were unavailable. Yet they were seen in the BOE office.

The hearings are recorded and transcripts can be ordered.

I believe the ALJ's last name was Ward.

[Merrick man]

The hearing was held at the
NYS Departmenyt of Labor, Unemployment Insurance Hearings
400 Oak Street
Garden City, New York 11530
516-228-3908

Does anyone know where/when this hearing was held? Were transcripts of testimony recorded? Who was the hearing fficer?

It was held at.

NYS Department Of Labor, Unemployment Insurance Hearings
400 Oak Street
Garden City, New York 11530
516-228-3908
ALJ Last Name: WARD

[ray garafookyu]

why would delete his own rumor posting

[Merrick Taxpayer]

Did anyone FOIL for a copy of the transcript of the hearing?

[teri hatcher]

OK Whats the truth?

[Get Over Yourself Dennis]

You got nothing buddy. Just $400 a week for six months or so. You got to make a little speech to an ALJ who makes tops $70,000 a year. You got to make your little speech on a tape. Half the time those tapes at the unemployment hearings have a poor sound quality and cannot be effectively transcribed anyway. Frankly, the only thing you appear to share in common with Sammy Gravano is the "bull," if you know what I mean. You act like you're the star prosecution witness before an investigatory grand jury, and not an angry man who was sh*t canned from a political job.

And it isn't as if you defeated some top of the line litigator. The County Attorney's Office probably sent some poor inconsequential shlub who can only handle matters that are ultimately small claims cases. The shlub they sent couldn't even get it together and produce their management witness, and could not produce him or her. This is sad.

Correct me if I am wrong, but I was informed, at some point, that the County offered you your job back or a comparable job at a comparable salary. So your separation from your employment was essentially voluntary in the end. This is the point of attack which should have been made.

Face it. Goodman, Botwin, Feinman, & Reinharz probably never looked at your file, and couldn't pick you out of a line up, even one in which you stood with several Pete Sylver look alikes.

Frankly, nobody gives a crap about your grand allegations of conspiracy, or what dirt you might have on Mr. Suozzi and his pals. It is getting really old and really stale, and your self serving rant at an umeployment hearing office is not sufficient evidence of criminality that would warrant a district attorney to tear a public sector agency apart.

In fact, your little rant under oath may wind up hurting you in the end. If you are contemplating a civil rights law suit of some kind you have already committed to a sworn statement, which can be used as possible impeachment material later on.

[Oh Plezze Counsel]

You got nothing buddy. Just $400 a week for six months or so. You got to make a little speech to an ALJ who makes tops $70,000 a year. You got to make your little speech on a tape. Half the time those tapes at the unemployment hearings have a poor sound quality and cannot be effectively transcribed anyway. Frankly, the only thing you appear to share in common with Sammy Gravano is the "bull," if you know what I mean. You act like you're the star prosecution witness before an investigatory grand jury, and not an angry man who was sh*t canned from a political job.

And it isn't as if you defeated some top of the line litigator. The County Attorney's Office probably sent some poor inconsequential shlub who can only handle matters that are ultimately small claims cases. The shlub they sent couldn't even get it together and produce their management witness, and could not produce him or her. This is sad.

Correct me if I am wrong, but I was informed, at some point, that the County offered you your job back or a comparable job at a comparable salary. So your separation from your employment was essentially voluntary in the end. This is the point of attack which should have been made.

Face it. Goodman, Botwin, Feinman, & Reinharz probably never looked at your file, and couldn't pick you out of a line up, even one in which you stood with several Pete Sylver look alikes.

Frankly, nobody gives a crap about your grand allegations of conspiracy, or what dirt you might have on Mr. Suozzi and his pals. It is getting really old and really stale, and your self serving rant at an umeployment hearing office is not sufficient evidence of criminality that would warrant a district attorney to tear a public sector agency apart.

In fact, your little rant under oath may wind up hurting you in the end. If you are contemplating a civil rights law suit of some kind you have already committed to a sworn statement, which can be used as possible impeachment material later on.

Its Thursday at the BOE so GT and TG decided to show up to collect their checks (they make between them about $130,000 ) and repond to this board. Why did you need the county attorney's office to represent you. I guess a second rate litigator is better than a politcal hack laywer.

By the way I made the initial posting and maybe one follow-up but that rest came from others. If you think I care about $400 a week you are dead wrong. I wanted you guys to come in and testify under oath. And as expected you wimped out. You can't testify because you have changed your story so many times you may forget which one to use under oath.

I was "shit-canned"? If so you lied to the unemployeement board in your anwser (or the anwer you had a poor county clerk submit on your behalf) it clearly stated that I was never threatened with "termination." Whats the truth this week.

You had the county create a legal fiction to insultate yourselves from civil and criminal liabilty. But you can't testify to it yourselves and you know it. What a bunch of cowards. I sat there willing to anwser questions under oath without an attorney present. You guys won't even appear with representation.

Yes the county offered me my job back and I refused. But why offer me a job after pushing me out. If I truly have nothing why try to buy me off with another job.

You say my accusations are getting state but please tell when I said publically that I forced to do illegal work. That was the first time. Others may have said it but I hadn't. I asked you not to make me do it but instead of allowing me to leave the BOE under semi-decent terms you fought me all the way. I just wanted to walk away from you clowns but you tried to make my life differcult. If you want to ask why I doing what I'm doing just look in the mirror.

By the way, I just testified in general regarding what goes on there. It was backed up by another witness. If you think I gave specifics think again. I not that stupid. If he heard 10% of what I have to say it would have been alot. Thats for another forum and I don't intend it to be a civil suit. If you recall I didn't even file a "notice of claim" did I.

I don't want money. I want to clean our party of the curruption you and your friends have tainted us with. Your not in Brooklyn anymore. Leave you dirty low down politics and threats at the door.

I haven't even begun to fight back. When I do you will know it. But if it helps you, keep on blaming me for all the postings on this board. But remember 90% of what I post comes from others who are afraid to post themselves. I don't have ESP and can only know what goes on because others are mad as hell and want it exposed. Thats what should concern you most. I been out of the BOE for several months and still command more loyalty from your staff than you do.

Anyway, I guess we will here from you next payday.

[loyaldem]

what are we doing to ourselves?

[DEMs Not our Dems]

what are we doing to ourselves?

Those who terrorize the Dems at the BOE are not Nassau Dems. The bosses are from New Jersey, Brooklyn, Queens, and Suffolk county. Only one boss is an orginal Nassau Dem. The others have been in the party for less than 3 years yet they profit the most at the BOE. They keep the good people there down and do not care about the party as a whole. Just using us to further their careers.

what are we doing to ourselves?

Those who terrorize the Dems at the BOE are not Nassau Dems. The bosses are from New Jersey, Brooklyn, Queens, and Suffolk county. Only one boss is an orginal Nassau Dem. The others have been in the party for less than 3 years yet they profit the most at the BOE. They keep the good people there down and do not care about the party as a whole. Just using us to further their careers.

And we can thank TS & JJ

[who's the Hollad judge?]

RICHARD MARK WARD
NYS UNEMPLOYMENT INSURANCE APPEAL BOARD ADMIN. LAW JUDGE SECTION
400 OAK ST STE 101
GARDEN CITY NY 11530
(516) 228-3903

Year Admitted in NY: 1988
Appellate Division
Department of Admission:
2
Law School: CUNY
Registration Status: Currently registered
Next Registration: Oct 2006

[quote=Get Over Yourself Dennis]Yes the county offered me my job back and I refused. But why offer me a job after pushing me out. If I truly have nothing why try to buy me off with another job.



If they offered you your job back you should take it. You're being a total putz about this. Any civil jury, especially a Nassau County or Central Islip one, will take you for what you are, a guy who does not want to mitigate his damages, but would rather sit on his fat behind, collect checks, and maybe try to get some windfall profit through a civil law suit. You will make a lousy witness on your own behalf if you try to bring some form of wrongful discharge suit and you'll be laughed out of court. And even though the Suozzi folks are creeps, you'll deserve it.

[not Dennis]

its not about the money, thats what you guys don't understand. For Dennis its about respect and loyalty, two things that he has always shown to the Democratic leadership, and two things that Jay Jacobs, Jeff Stein, and Fats Garafola haven't shown him. Suozzi tried to make it right by offering Dennis a job, but it was too late- the damage was done.

[quote=Get Over Yourself Dennis]Yes the county offered me my job back and I refused. But why offer me a job after pushing me out. If I truly have nothing why try to buy me off with another job.



If they offered you your job back you should take it. You're being a total putz about this. Any civil jury, especially a Nassau County or Central Islip one, will take you for what you are, a guy who does not want to mitigate his damages, but would rather sit on his fat behind, collect checks, and maybe try to get some windfall profit through a civil law suit. You will make a lousy witness on your own behalf if you try to bring some form of wrongful discharge suit and you'll be laughed out of court. And even though the Suozzi folks are creeps, you'll deserve it.

Ok Jimmy. Thanks for the advice. But I think you know what to do with it.

Thanks

Dennis

PS. I Have no intention on sueing at this point. If you haven't gotten that point yet then re-read my postings.

Remember my friend: The enemy of my enemy is my friend.

[Last response]

Its Thursday at the BOE so GT and TG decided to show up to collect their checks (they make between them about $130,000 ) and repond to this board. Why did you need the county attorney's office to represent you. I guess a second rate litigator is better than a politcal hack laywer.

By the way I made the initial posting and maybe one follow-up but that rest came from others. If you think I care about $400 a week you are dead wrong. I wanted you guys to come in and testify under oath. And as expected you wimped out. You can't testify because you have changed your story so many times you may forget which one to use under oath.

I was "shit-canned"? If so you lied to the unemployeement board in your anwser (or the anwer you had a poor county clerk submit on your behalf) it clearly stated that I was never threatened with "termination." Whats the truth this week.

You had the county create a legal fiction to insultate yourselves from civil and criminal liabilty. But you can't testify to it yourselves and you know it. What a bunch of cowards. I sat there willing to anwser questions under oath without an attorney present. You guys won't even appear with representation.

Yes the county offered me my job back and I refused. But why offer me a job after pushing me out. If I truly have nothing why try to buy me off with another job.

You say my accusations are getting state but please tell when I said publically that I forced to do illegal work. That was the first time. Others may have said it but I hadn't. I asked you not to make me do it but instead of allowing me to leave the BOE under semi-decent terms you fought me all the way. I just wanted to walk away from you clowns but you tried to make my life differcult. If you want to ask why I doing what I'm doing just look in the mirror.

By the way, I just testified in general regarding what goes on there. It was backed up by another witness. If you think I gave specifics think again. I not that stupid. If he heard 10% of what I have to say it would have been alot. Thats for another forum and I don't intend it to be a civil suit. If you recall I didn't even file a "notice of claim" did I.

I don't want money. I want to clean our party of the curruption you and your friends have tainted us with. Your not in Brooklyn anymore. Leave you dirty low down politics and threats at the door.

I haven't even begun to fight back. When I do you will know it. But if it helps you, keep on blaming me for all the postings on this board. But remember 90% of what I post comes from others who are afraid to post themselves. I don't have ESP and can only know what goes on because others are mad as hell and want it exposed. Thats what should concern you most. I been out of the BOE for several months and still command more loyalty from your staff than you do.

Anyway, I guess we will here from you next payday.

[Very Good]

its not about the money, thats what you guys don't understand. For Dennis its about respect and loyalty, two things that he has always shown to the Democratic leadership, and two things that Jay Jacobs, Jeff Stein, and Fats Garafola haven't shown him. Suozzi tried to make it right by offering Dennis a job, but it was too late- the damage was done.

You see, Some of you get it.

Too bad its not the people that matter.

[parsing the bs]

[quote=Anonymous][quote="Oh Plezze
PS. I Have no intention on sueing at this point. If you haven't gotten that point yet then re-read my postings.

Remember my friend: The enemy of my enemy is my friend.

Not yet suing "at this point." Geez, you're a wanna be lawyer Dennis. Guess at some "other point," you may reconsider your litigation options.

[File Finder]

Last week files were found on a computer labeled "Stein and Garafola's political files." It seems that some employees have been hiding files on PC's and over the network that will show the work being done at the BOE. And the computer was not from the employees who testified. It seems that others have been keeping records on these crooks.

You found those files but how many others do you think are hidden around the network. The evidence against these guys is sitting right under their nose.

How many others have been creating a record to against these guys???

[Illegal work]

Everyone does it BOE style-like the DEMS>

[What I did]

I copied the files and documents I wanted and e-mailed them to myself at home. When they fire you they disable the computer because they are afraid you'll take the proof with you and sue later or expose them to the media. I beat them at their own game because I sent everything home already. I suggest the rest of you do the same. The people posting on here against the employee are typical Suozzi Democrats in his administration - all they think about, care about and revolve around is the money. They don't get the important part of this, and they never will. Who wants a job back with this administration now that you know what disgusting pigs they are? It sounds like the same way they started out handling the Peter Sylver fiasco but you know they only got their wrist slapped on that, thanks to Dennis Dillon (we'll remember that at the polls in November too) so as a result they never learned.

[Typical Suozzi Democrat]

Of course they only care about the money - they don't live here they couldn't possibly care about the county, what they do or what the impact is on the county.

Why not blame Goodman ect. for this debacle? Again, it's a typical Suozzi Democrat who puts the blame on the lawyer management at the county attorney's office actually sent in to the hearing. Don't think for a moment they didn't know there were no witnesses or that it was a wrongful termination. Of course they did. The poor schluck attorney certainly didn't want to go into the hearing but he was ordered. Management is fully responsible for all the decision making in that office - it's a verticle matrix system remember? And if the top level people making $90K - $150K DIDN"T know anything about the case - that's even a worse problem. You have Suozzi running around denying he knows anything about anything bad that he gets caught on and now you're gonna pull that crap within each agency? So what do we need managers for? If nobody is going to know anything, or be responsible for anything - but still gets paid alot of money and still gives the orders - what the hell kind of chaotic system did Suozzi create? Don't blame the messager pal. The kid probably told all of them twice the problems in the case & they just didn't get it, didn't care or couldn't grasp the consequences. And like it not - an administrative forum is just as legal and binding a forum as the supreme court is and about those tapes - they get transcribed with plenty of regularity and they play out more clearly than the ones in used in actual courtrooms.

[Indictment]

Just wondering - is Dillon going to do anything about this or not?

[unreliable hearsay]

Dennis Holland appears to be at best a highly tarnished snitch with an employment dispute with Nassau County. He apparently has his own agenda, lacks credibility, and would not be a reliable prosecution witness.

Fortunately, Mr. Dillon has the common sense to focus on violent criminals, such as the piece of garbage who murdered Franlin Square bank manager James Gottlieb. Ultimately, the BOE must be sorted out by the political process. Mr. Holland is not a victim, and his self important "playing the victim" routine trivializes the suffering of genuine victims and their families, like Mr. Gottlieb's.

Now that he is getting his big $400 bucks a month, it is time to be a man and move on.

[Sick Post]

Dennis Holland appears to be at best a highly tarnished snitch with an employment dispute with Nassau County. He apparently has his own agenda, lacks credibility, and would not be a reliable prosecution witness.

Fortunately, Mr. Dillon has the common sense to focus on violent criminals, such as the piece of garbage who murdered Franlin Square bank manager James Gottlieb. Ultimately, the BOE must be sorted out by the political process. Mr. Holland is not a victim, and his self important "playing the victim" routine trivializes the suffering of genuine victims and their families, like Mr. Gottlieb's.

Now that he is getting his big $400 bucks a month, it is time to be a man and move on.

Thats a sick post considering Dennis' sister was murdered and he led the Long Island "Parents of Murdered Children" chapter for about 10 years. Thats why he was forced out. He supported a Assemblyman who was the organization's biggest supporter and his bosses didn't like it. That makes you as sick as they are.

[Direct Evidence]

Dennis Holland appears to be at best a highly tarnished snitch with an employment dispute with Nassau County. He apparently has his own agenda, lacks credibility, and would not be a reliable prosecution witness.

Fortunately, Mr. Dillon has the common sense to focus on violent criminals, such as the piece of garbage who murdered Franlin Square bank manager James Gottlieb. Ultimately, the BOE must be sorted out by the political process. Mr. Holland is not a victim, and his self important "playing the victim" routine trivializes the suffering of genuine victims and their families, like Mr. Gottlieb's.

Now that he is getting his big $400 bucks a month, it is time to be a man and move on.

On murder cases the DA assigns a prosecuter (1) from the major offense bureau which consists of about 5 or so of his top ADA's. The people who invesigate political crimes are not involved in the major offense squad.

Anyway, who ever said Dennis was going to the DA. He hasn't. This is the same DA who lost his sister's murder case with a video-taped confession.

You listening to rumors which by the way is considered "Hearsay."

[Get Off the pipe]

Your on drugs, Direct Evidence. Dennis Holland is not an attorney, so he can't be the DA. Here's the proof:




(Click name for details) Registration
Number City State Year
Admitted
CRAIG D. HOLLAND 1887173 JERICHO NY 1983
DANIEL REYBURN HOLLAND 2354462 NEW YORK NY 1990
DAVID CLIFFORD HOLLAND 2785152 NEW YORK NY 1996
DAVID ERIC HOLLAND 2754679 JUPITER FL 1996
DAVID R. HOLLAND 2801827 MELVILLE NY 1997
DIANE GALLAGHER HOLLAND 1913292 MELVILLE NY 1984
DONALD JOHN HOLLAND 1173004 1966
EDWARD J. HOLLAND 1511054 VANICE FL 1939
ELISA POWERS HOLLAND 2608347 ANCHORAGE AK 1994
ELIZABETH I. HOLLAND





Read the post. All that I am saying is that Holland does not raise any questions about the BOE worthy of prosecutorial attention.

No one said he was a attorney. Nor do I believe dennis ever said it was criminal but a abuse of power. Gerry and garafola profitted from work he did at the BOE. No one has denied that. They made money using a county empoyee and county resoures. If thats not a crime it sure should be.

Are you one drugs??? Who said he was an attorney. Doing the "white powder" with Stein and Garafola. The DA did investigate that didn't he. They may have escaped that time but their luck will run out soon

No one said he was a attorney. Nor do I believe dennis ever said it was criminal but a abuse of power. Gerry and garafola profitted from work he did at the BOE. No one has denied that. They made money using a county empoyee and county resoures. If thats not a crime it sure should be.

Are you one drugs??? Who said he was an attorney. Doing the "white powder" with Stein and Garafola. The DA did investigate that didn't he. They may have escaped that time but their luck will run out soon


Please....... First you say that Dillon should look into the BOE situation. Then you say it isn't a criminal matter. Give us a break. Stop talking out of both sides of your rear end. Collect your money for the next six months, and then find a real job.[/quote]

You wrote in your last posting:

"Your on drugs, Direct Evidence. Dennis Holland is not an attorney, so he can't be the DA. "

No one said anything about being a DA.

It was posted that they "were" invesigated by the DA. Thats is in the past tense. I see your knowledge of grammer equals your knowledge of the rules of evidence. The fact is they got off on the last invesigation. I'm sure the will on future ones. They worst crimes do not involve me.

It was the judge at the hearing who ask why not go to the DA and I replyed I did not want to. Order the transcripts and you will see for yourself. If the DA wants to review them also thats his right.

By the way, I am not collecting $400 a week. I did resign and the county claims my job was still there for me but I refused it. That was thrue. In addition I haven't reported in as required. Don't want the money just wanted them under oath to expose their recklessness. If youthink $10,000 over six months is going to affect my life your mistaken.

I want them out of the BOE as they have destroyed the Dems position there. Even the people they think like them believe that fact.

I will not go to the DA. I can't speak for others. The posting about going to the DA are from others.

But I will expose whats going on there as its is destroying our party.

[FightingReps]

Instead of fighting amongst ourselves why dont we fight the Republicans. If we put this much energy into fighting the Republicans we would always have a winning team.

Just wondering - is Dillon going to do anything about this or not?

Gret question - he will probably ignore it

[Minime vs. Norby]

Out-of-town bosses at the BOE have insulted their the most respected Dem staffer Norby Stemcosky. They had to move him to make room for their political operations but were afraid to tell him.

It took Minme weeks to muster the courage to ask him to move his office. What an administrator. Hey someone tell him he is the commissioner and give him the job description.

No wonder the Reps are running the place. If you don't have the backbone to tell one of your employees to move how can we expect him can stand up to the Reps (who are hand and shoulders smarter than him).

[Moving Day]

At least they just moved his office. Usually when they need a job for another of their politico friends to fulfill whatever sick agenda they have they just fire somebody on the wrong side of the political fence - the one who refuses illegal orders and is too smart for them to get anything over on.

[You make a Valid Point]

I see that the administration is continuing to fire more loyal Nassau County employees - Democrat and Republican alike - and are moving in more Suozzi Hacks from the City. Guess Suozzi is doing his final mop up before the big push in Nov. 2005.



Out-of-town bosses at the BOE have insulted their the most respected Dem staffer Norby Stemcosky. They had to move him to make room for their political operations but were afraid to tell him.

It took Minme weeks to muster the courage to ask him to move his office. What an administrator. Hey someone tell him he is the commissioner and give him the job description.

No wonder the Reps are running the place. If you don't have the backbone to tell one of your employees to move how can we expect him can stand up to the Reps (who are hand and shoulders smarter than him).

[Minime can't see]

I know who the leak is at the Dems BOE. Im passing it onto Mini-Me this evening. Better watch it! Hi Eleanor!

Let me tell you the leaks are more than 20 people on the dem side. DH can tell you when stein goes to the bathroon (and remember he has a bathroom in his private office). The people around him are more loyal to DH than JS. Thats whats his problem is and he has no clue how to fix the situation. Get a grip on your inner staff Jeff. Or can you. Who's paying them you or Dennis. The way it looks they are on his payroll not yours. What a sad excuse of a leader you have become to us.

What do you have on the party leaders that allow you to stay???

I see that the administration is continuing to fire more loyal Nassau County employees - Democrat and Republican alike - and are moving in more Suozzi Hacks from the City. Guess Suozzi is doing his final mop up before the big push in Nov. 2005.



Out-of-town bosses at the BOE have insulted their the most respected Dem staffer Norby Stemcosky. They had to move him to make room for their political operations but were afraid to tell him.

It took Minme weeks to muster the courage to ask him to move his office. What an administrator. Hey someone tell him he is the commissioner and give him the job description.

No wonder the Reps are running the place. If you don't have the backbone to tell one of your employees to move how can we expect him can stand up to the Reps (who are hand and shoulders smarter than him).

El did have lunch with the opposition last week. What did she fess up this time??????????????

[FRIENDS @ THE BOE]

Will someone look up voter registration number :

N3432069 DAVID J. TAIT 82 HEARTH LN, WESTBURY

A RENTER in ILLEGAL apt ?
Owned at the time by a
Town of Hempstead Asst Town Attny!

N3050768 DONNA FERRARA 82 HEARTH LN, WESTBURY

[BOE Dem Leaks]

The "leakees" are the younger members. Under 30.

[everyone knows]

It's no secret that DH gets all his info from LD. DH said it himself...

[be for real]

umm be for real. hes on the phone with NW all day long.

[yup it's her]

Maybe so, But It's definetely LD. Think about where she sits all day... Who does DH hate the most but always seems to have new info about???

[Who Am I also]

the only person that knows when stein goes to the bathroom is AW

[Eleanor Scigligy Wiggly]

I know who this is. Thats the $80,000 question. By the way, Im sleepless in Valley Stream. I love Johnny D!

[funnystuff]

maybe AW talks to BM and BM passes it thru the PS to BH, which then sees it to the WC where it then goes thru SL to DH.

But, then where does LD come in, and who the hell is NW.
And, how Supreme is he really at Mathematics. Me guess NOT AT ALL.
and, no one cares if Donna Ferrara had someone living in her house back in the dark days of republican domination. At least this person was registered to vote.

[Swiggly Wiggly Talks]

I know who this is. Thats the $80,000 question. By the way, Im sleepless in Valley Stream. I love Johnny D!

I hear ES had lunch with AS (the former duputy ) last week. Maybe ES tells AS who we know tells DH everything. You know Swiggly hated these guys for firing AS and started the Minime name. She still bitches about RG all the time.

Lets stop blaming the low-level people. It's ES who knows everything and loves to talk. Maybe during one of her 20 gossip breaks she takes a day on the docks.

Oh what a tangled web we weave when we start deceiving Minime.

Sorry minime but your loyal deputy may be the death to thee.

maybe AW talks to BM and BM passes it thru the PS to BH, which then sees it to the WC where it then goes thru SL to DH.

But, then where does LD come in, and who the hell is NW.
And, how Supreme is he really at Mathematics. Me guess NOT AT ALL.
and, no one cares if Donna Ferrara had someone living in her house back in the dark days of republican domination. At least this person was registered to vote.

LD sits in an office with RG while pretending to be loyal to both...
Didn't she recently visit DH in FLA?
NW sits right outside ES's office and prebably sees and hears lots.
There's always KL who gets info from MS and probably passes it right to DH. Unless MS and PC are feeding the dirt right to DH themselves. Many, Many disloyal people in one place at one time.
JJ should fire them all.

[Telephone]

Its Sorta Like Playing Telephone. Lets See - ES Talks to RC and AS Who Both Talk To DH. NW Talks To KL and DH. PF, LD, And VG Talk To DH. AW Talks To BP Who Talks To DH. Now We Find Out That ES Had Lunch With AS. What Is That All About? Is ES The Enemy?

[Telephone]

Oh Yea And I Forgot One Key Source - MS And PC Talk To DH And KL.

[Point Made]

Oh Yea And I Forgot One Key Source - MS And PC Talk To DH And KL.

I count about 10 or so people who talk to him. Keep going you missed a bunch. You know the brave ones who talk to him while at the BOE but they are not the ones who should concern you. How many call from home or their cell phones as they are afraid to let the bosses know they talk to him.

By the way LD has not been the only BOE employee to visit DH in FLA. I think about 4 or 5 different people did that.

The question is who talks to JS and RG. No-one. Thats the sad fact. They're outsiders and treated as such.

[I think i've got it]

Obviously the deputy ES rants and raves to RC who just so happens to talk to AS everyday who just so happens to talk to DH everyday. But actually since reading the previous postings I have learned that ES had lunch with AS.

[More To Testify]

This time the sworn testimony might be in a court of law if Dillon gets off his rump and leaves the jokesters to tell jokes and takes seriously the allegations of widespread fraud and corruption under the democratic commissioner in the BOE.

[More scandals rock Suozzi]

I can't wait to see how Newsday spins this one.

[Wouldn't it be great]

If the BOE boys go down right about the same time the Glen Cove boys go down right about the same time Celeste's article on the county attorney staff comes out just before Domash's article on payroll fraud? WEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

[Mama Celeste H]

I report to Jack Sirica. Blame him when I am bad, blame him when I is good.

[Judge John Sirica]

I report to Jack Sirica. Blame him when I am bad, blame him when I is good.

Then he understands political curruption. It may not be "All the Presidents Men," not even with Souzzis ego, but its a scandel worth investigating.

:?:

:?:

[Sirica Lesson 101]

:?:

For those who are leaving question marks I have to assume you don't understand the above postings.

Jack Sirico is a Newsday editor. He is the son of Judge John Sirocco the Federal Judge who presided over the Watergate trails.

Get it. His father was the judge in the biggest political corruption case in US history. And some are implying that he is preventing his reporters from investigating political corruption in Nassau County.

Get it yet. The son of a judge who was responsible uncovering corruption is accused of allowing his reporters to ignore it.



I doubt he is making his father proud, Thank god he is not alive to see his son become everything he stood against as one of this county's finest jurist.

Judge John Sirca stood for something good in american politics. If we believe the above postings, we can not say the same of his son.

Get it. Got it. Good.

[Bureau Chief takes a Hit]

The Department of Labor in the County Attorney's Office is looking for a new Labor Law Bureau Chief. I guess they didn't like the way the BOE unemployment hearings were handled - or not. Unfortunately - the real hit should have been taken by Reinharz the managing attorney and his Feinman Shadow but Suozzi isn't man enough to stand up to Goodman and her bags of money. We all suffer. Let's see what hag they drag in next.

[The Reinharz Show]

Big money got him the job. Thats the end of that. Lets hire outside counsel.

[What I want to know is]

does the job come with a warning label for the unsuspecting outsider who doesn't know what he's getting himself involved in and do they have to sign a confidentiality agreement from the very start? Or are they planning on hiring another Reinharz puppet who isn't smart enough to complain or challenge him and could not have otherwise gotten the job if not for a debt owed to him or a political contribution made to Suozzi? At least this time they are looking for a labor law bureau chief who actually has a substantial amount of experiencing practicing labor law! A far cry from their normal hiring practices.

[Den & Kev]

The boys are back in town.
Theree's a bad moon on the rise.

[Come On Den]

The boys are back in town.
Theree's a bad moon on the rise.

Except Dennis is worried about hurting his friends. Telling those close to him he may just walk away. Crazy thing is he includes people like RG as one of his former friends. Dumb and getting dumer. Remember Dennis they are not your friends they f***ed you. You may be in a better place now but we need you to expose these guys. They are not your friends we are. Help fight them.

[To Kevin]

Kevin - Why couldnt you just call dennis on the phone and tell him that. You have to write to him on an anonymous posting board.

[David Greene & BOE]

Kevin - Why couldnt you just call dennis on the phone and tell him that. You have to write to him on an anonymous posting board.

Why was a foil filed on friday on info I withheld from the BOE hearing.

Hmmmm. Leaks in the personnel office may fry them all. They withheld important info from a state agency.

Question is who ordered the cover-up. Is it just between him and Jeff stein or was the orders issued fro above.

[226 Charles]

Mr. Comisioner,

Isnt it true that one of your basement employees has been checked into rehab. Now theres someone you should have checked otu. Sleeping all day in the basement and walking around with no clue. But thats ok because you dont want to piss off his mommy dearest because dr. evil would get mad at oyu.

[Tart]

Who or what is 226 Charles?

[226 is JJ's OB Fix]

Who or what is 226 Charles?

Its a house that 17 of Jay Jacobs most loyal county committeepeople reside. Thats right a single family house with 17 registered votes with 6 different last names. Must get pretty cramped in there.

Except one of the occupants is Jeff Steins spy and central area supervisor who wears an Amityville fire departmet jacket and has Amityville fire department indentification on his Jeep.

It could be a nursing facilty as many of its residents are listed on the voter roles as permeantly disabled. (a crime if they lied on the application)

Whatever, Stein allows it because the leader who proportedly lives there is the chairmans most loyal supports in Oyster Bay. He even held up a job for the leaders son until Jay got his choice for OB chair mostly with votes from that leader.

Just another abuse of his power. He allows this situation to exist literally right under his runny nose.

[WOW 226 CHARLES]

wow...could that be right! amityville is in suffolk so how could these commiteepeople or voters be legal. somebody better check into this fast.

[Bonnie's Whitewash]

wow...could that be right! amityville is in suffolk so how could these commiteepeople or voters be legal. somebody better check into this fast.

He knows whats going on. But will he tell JJ he is going after his protected family. Remember the BOE Commissioner is nothing more than a street thug doing the bidding of Souzzi and Jacobs,

Ask Dot Goosby what he did with her peitions. Over 30 BOE employees researching petitions on county time and almost cost her a ballot position, Stein ordered people to do it on county time and said it was at the request of the county exec (thats a fact).

Its an out and out abuse that is being ignored by a selective Bonnie Garone invesigation controlled by Souzzi's people

[Eva Longoria]

As the BOE turns just like my show.

[Regan84]

are we talking about the Ray Garofola from Suffolk County who is the field director for Suozzi?

are we talking about the Ray Garofola from Suffolk County who is the field director for Suozzi?

Yes it is, How soon does Tommy forget. Its now "Throw Ray From the Train" mode in Nassau. No one is safe from these back-stabbing wimps.

[Footloose]

Since when was Ray G cut loose?

[Who's in charge now?]

So who's the newest deadbeat taking orders from Reinharz handling the unemployment compensation cases at the labor bureau in Goodman's office? They had to hang the wrap on somebody.

[testimony about hempstead]

when is the DA gonna ask for testimony about whether the democrats at BOE wallked hempstead village with acorn to turn the mayoral race there - during the county's time and getting county pay?

[Gar a Fola Crap]

Im not delivering Suffolk for 2006! Bye bye!

[Tell your friends]

Tell your friends about Suozzi's BOE scams. Print out this thread and show it to them. Pass around the truth. Get Suozzi out in 2005

and the plot thickens.
:wink:

Just like the parks - instead of geting rid of top management klein they get rid of laborers he hired - here they get rid of the labor bureau chief instead of the top managment at the county attorney's office who actually made the decision to fight unemployment.

[Klein is down is out]

Although Suozzi is all happy that Klein's activities were only found to be "inappropriate" instead of "illegal".
What a low standard he sets for his people huh?

[Professor Pete Sylver]

Although Suozzi is all happy that Klein's activities were only found to be "inappropriate" instead of "illegal".
What a low standard he sets for his people huh?



Yeah, I sorta see it dis way. Illegal is when you rapes a co-worker..... That's bad...... Real bad. "Inappropriate" is more like when you take a vacation to London and call it a "training seminar, buy a sh*tload of peppermint patties on an IDA credit card, pay hundreds of thousands of dollars to a politically connected law firms, and hire your relatives onto the public dole. Dat is merely "Inappropriate." I gots to remember. Inappropriate good. Illegal bad.