View Full Version : Intime gone?
countyman123
01-09-2010, 07:04 PM
heard there is a committee formed to end intime to end the contract with the company to save money any truth
49krmve
01-09-2010, 09:23 PM
heard there is a committee formed to end intime to end the contract with the company to save money any truth
Why bother the contract is good for another 2 years. Such a waste of taxpayer time to start a committee on such a thing.
edenn laiken
01-09-2010, 11:13 PM
no shit?
Father Time-ly
01-10-2010, 08:44 AM
heard there is a committee formed to end intime to end the contract with the company to save money any truth
They won't ditch InTime because they couldn't justify to the taxpayer that they got rid of an electronic time keeping system that, for the most part, cuts down on time cheats.
Before you say anything about the time cheat remark, ask yourself this....if all people on here who bitch about InTime came to work on time and left on time, would they trash the system?
I think not...only the people who's 'scamming ways' are done for complain about ImTime.
Voters will wonder why Mangano scrapped something still new to go back to the old way of keeping time - when that system was always suspect as to accuracy.
The only way to make InTime truly accurate would be to limit people's clock ins to the card reader on their floor or outside their agency. That will prevent people from arriving at 9:00, double parking, running in to the nearest clock, swiping their card, going back to their car to park - possibly detouring to a deli or coffee shop on the way back to the building.
Someone who works on the 3rd floor of a building would have to swip in on that floor.
Want to really make it a time 'honest' system? Make everyone swipe in and out for lunch, as well.
Whether you have 45 minutes or 60 minutes, you will be accountable for that time. And Missed Clock would not be permitted for lunch swiping.
Unregistered2344
01-10-2010, 09:43 AM
People gripe about inTime because it can involve an enormous amount of wasted oversight effort from supervisors, including CSEA supervisors. The concept of an electronic system is fine but this system is actually less efficient than the old paper system. As usual, the county appears to have purchased a crappy system. Isn't technology supposed to make us more efficient and not less?
But the main point is inTime doesn't make people more productive. So fine the deadbeats who used to come in a little late and then proceed to spend their days pretending to work are now coming in on time and still pretending to work.
If there are ongoing costs associated with inTime it should be dumped.
Unregistered Name
01-10-2010, 12:03 PM
InTime has maintenance costs
Unregistereddss
01-10-2010, 03:19 PM
People still come in late even with intime. See it all the time, every day. They only have tardy time taken off. They have never been reprimanded!! Intime is a waste of time. It was only put in place because there was a grant for Suozzi's friend. Wasting millions of dollars. What about the people who come in early?? Should earn extra time?? I believe so. Races to get out of the parking lot at night still. Get rid of it!!
QuotaMeUp
01-10-2010, 03:36 PM
People still come in late even with intime. See it all the time, every day. They only have tardy time taken off. They have never been reprimanded!! Intime is a waste of time. It was only put in place because there was a grant for Suozzi's friend. Wasting millions of dollars. What about the people who come in early?? Should earn extra time?? I believe so. Races to get out of the parking lot at night still. Get rid of it!!
County employees are too busy erasing the marks left by police officers who wish to enforce the 1 hour parking rules in front of West Street in Mineola.
There is one employee who is on the look out making sure employee have the
"right" to park there all day, thus depriving taxpayers of their right to park.
Will Mangano enforce the parking rules to benefit all citizens or keep the status quo.
Unregistered supervisor
01-10-2010, 03:39 PM
People still come in late even with intime. See it all the time, every day. They only have tardy time taken off. They have never been reprimanded!! Intime is a waste of time. It was only put in place because there was a grant for Suozzi's friend. Wasting millions of dollars. What about the people who come in early?? Should earn extra time?? I believe so. Races to get out of the parking lot at night still. Get rid of it!!
Intime should stay - in my department we've cut down on people coming in late and signing in at 9:00. Now everyone is held accountable. I agree with the poster who said the people who don't like intime are the ones that can no longer get away with faking their attendance.
And we always dock for tardy minutes.
as for people who come in early - most that I see, do personal stuff and don't start until 9.
Intime is so much better than wasting time with the paper leave slips and tracking down people who "forget" to sign in and out. As a supervisor, I hope it stays - it has certainly made my job easier.
UnregisteredBoss
01-10-2010, 05:24 PM
Intime should stay - in my department we've cut down on people coming in late and signing in at 9:00. Now everyone is held accountable. I agree with the poster who said the people who don't like intime are the ones that can no longer get away with faking their attendance.
And we always dock for tardy minutes.
as for people who come in early - most that I see, do personal stuff and don't start until 9.
Intime is so much better than wasting time with the paper leave slips and tracking down people who "forget" to sign in and out. As a supervisor, I hope it stays - it has certainly made my job easier.
We all know who you are, we call you the asswipe on a regular basis. Sticking your ugly mug in everyones business day after day has made you the idiot on the floor. Even the higher up have no use for you seeing you're sticking your mug into their business too.
clock time
01-10-2010, 05:52 PM
Public Works Employees don't have to clock in or out for OT just enter any time they want !!
Doesn't work
01-11-2010, 12:34 AM
They won't ditch InTime because they couldn't justify to the taxpayer that they got rid of an electronic time keeping system that, for the most part, cuts down on time cheats.
Before you say anything about the time cheat remark, ask yourself this....if all people on here who bitch about InTime came to work on time and left on time, would they trash the system?
I think not...only the people who's 'scamming ways' are done for complain about ImTime.
Voters will wonder why Mangano scrapped something still new to go back to the old way of keeping time - when that system was always suspect as to accuracy.
The only way to make InTime truly accurate would be to limit people's clock ins to the card reader on their floor or outside their agency. That will prevent people from arriving at 9:00, double parking, running in to the nearest clock, swiping their card, going back to their car to park - possibly detouring to a deli or coffee shop on the way back to the building.
Someone who works on the 3rd floor of a building would have to swip in on that floor.
Want to really make it a time 'honest' system? Make everyone swipe in and out for lunch, as well.
Whether you have 45 minutes or 60 minutes, you will be accountable for that time. And Missed Clock would not be permitted for lunch swiping.
So you run up to the third floor, swipe in, throw your coat on your desk, run downstairs to your car, move it to the deli for the next 1/2 hour, come back upstairs & read the paper you bought for the next 20 minutes and then make 2 hours of personal calls on your cell phone after that, or easier - give your pass to your co-worker leaving work the night before & let him swipe you in in the morning, and then he leaves early & gives you his pass & you swipe him out in the afternoon. Or swipe out for lunch, take an hour eating your lunch in the office, then swipe back in THEN go out for lunch or your 15th, 20 minute cigarette break of the day. Electronic records are useless. Its productivity they should be focused on.
Tardy MINUTES?
01-11-2010, 12:40 AM
Intime should stay - in my department we've cut down on people coming in late and signing in at 9:00. Now everyone is held accountable. I agree with the poster who said the people who don't like intime are the ones that can no longer get away with faking their attendance.
And we always dock for tardy minutes.
as for people who come in early - most that I see, do personal stuff and don't start until 9.
Intime is so much better than wasting time with the paper leave slips and tracking down people who "forget" to sign in and out. As a supervisor, I hope it stays - it has certainly made my job easier.
Tardy minutes? Are we all 12 years old? What is a minute worth? A typical CSEA employee earning $35,000 - $50,000 gets docked for 3 minutes? That's not pulling the County out of a deficit, but putting in further in because all the time & energy spent figuring out the Tardy MINUTES & how much to dock. Literally, when its time to clock out you see employees standing around the time clock WAITING for those last couple minutes so they can clock out and go home, instead of just leaving. Nobody is working those tardy MINUTES & you're just pissing off the hard workers & wasting everyone's time.
Unregistered spvsr 2
01-11-2010, 06:32 PM
Intime should stay - in my department we've cut down on people coming in late and signing in at 9:00. Now everyone is held accountable. I agree with the poster who said the people who don't like intime are the ones that can no longer get away with faking their attendance.
And we always dock for tardy minutes.
as for people who come in early - most that I see, do personal stuff and don't start until 9.
Intime is so much better than wasting time with the paper leave slips and tracking down people who "forget" to sign in and out. As a supervisor, I hope it stays - it has certainly made my job easier.
If that was going on, you weren't running your department properly before Intime. You can't let this broken system to the job for you. Are you correcting all the existing errors on the Intime record for your staff? If so, you wouldn't be saying it made your job EASIER. It has been a great waste of time and money.
It has also hurt morale. We had employees who used to come in to work early, and thought nothing of starting before 9. After coming in early and getting no credit for it, then being late once and getting docked, the employees have a different attitute and now many come in between 9 and 9:05 everyday. You can't expect employees to give and never get back.
Why is it that our regular employees have a Tardy Bucket, but the ordinance employees do not?
Unregistered11553
01-13-2010, 03:05 PM
They won't ditch InTime because they couldn't justify to the taxpayer that they got rid of an electronic time keeping system that, for the most part, cuts down on time cheats.
Before you say anything about the time cheat remark, ask yourself this....if all people on here who bitch about InTime came to work on time and left on time, would they trash the system?
I think not...only the people who's 'scamming ways' are done for complain about ImTime.
Voters will wonder why Mangano scrapped something still new to go back to the old way of keeping time - when that system was always suspect as to accuracy.
The only way to make InTime truly accurate would be to limit people's clock ins to the card reader on their floor or outside their agency. That will prevent people from arriving at 9:00, double parking, running in to the nearest clock, swiping their card, going back to their car to park - possibly detouring to a deli or coffee shop on the way back to the building.
Someone who works on the 3rd floor of a building would have to swip in on that floor.
Want to really make it a time 'honest' system? Make everyone swipe in and out for lunch, as well.
Whether you have 45 minutes or 60 minutes, you will be accountable for that time. And Missed Clock would not be permitted for lunch swiping.
Where do I start?
1. People bitch about intime because supervisors are spending a great deal of time maintaining the system. It's a real serious tail wagging the dog problem. It is generally not because they are cheating the system and now they are being held accountable.
2. It appears that cheating is no more or less than it was under the old system. For those of us familar with the system, we know this is true. There are many ways to scam this system.
3. Given that it does not prevent cheating, why did we spend the 14 to 20 million dollars? Simple, it was a way for Suozzi to stick it to the civil servant while enriching a friend, a win-win for Suozzi
4. Making people swipe in and out for lunch is absolutely ridiculous. It magnifies the "tail wagging the dog" syndrome. Not to mention all the workers who work through their lunch (like the supervisors that have to maintain this stupid system).
The bottom line on this system is that it is not effective but requires a great deal of maintainance and increases the admiistrative burden on so many supervisors. It's time for intime to go.
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